John Deere X9 Combine how it works animation

[@mspeir]

I'm not a farmer, but I've always wondered how these work! Nice animation and great explanation! Thank you!

[@lovejoydk838]

no real harvester was harmed in this video. :)

[@jamescaudle3930]

I agree... I wondering how it worked and this was a great video 👍 Thanks!

[@Gamer_Squad72]

me too and i work on them

[@MeaneR_]

Only recent models work like this. Older models runs without the axis

[@JamesPalylyk]

Are farmers allowed to fix this themselves when it inevitably breaks?

[@xephael3485]

oh hell no, you need lots of green to fix green... Even standard parts like v-belts have proprietary designations to make finding compatible parts more difficuilt. Even if those 3rd party parts are made by the same supplier of the OEM parts.

[@ВладимирИльичев-э3в]

Разрешено.Только ночью.Когда никто не видит.И исключительно китайскими запчастями.

[@Rosk03]

Good question.. Answer is No and Yes. Just google: Right to Repair Act

[@krypton1886]

@@ВладимирИльичев-э3в, ага, а потом привет штраф в 30% от годовой выручки

[@AJRestoration]

Just buy a new one...

[@OvhanDevos]

Very impressive equipment. Now let's talk about the massive cost. And the repairability.

[@nuarius]

For maximum convenience, and optimum operational efficiency.... Reparability has been completely removed! ....oh you meant for the equipment, not the manufacturer... my bad

[@michellaeharmsen4084]

This is why i prefer CLAAS or New Holland, they're about the same size (and even the dealerships sell spare parts)

[@thepope2412]

You can repair anything that's not connect to the computer

[@mgntstr]

fuck them for shafting operators like that@@thepope2412

[@Cadaverine1990]

@@thepope2412 So you can't fix anything... The seats are air ride which are also in the computer.

[@xephael3485]

It's also equipped with systems to keep you from repairing it yourself or using 3 party systems.

[@BradiKal61]

Why should a farmer have any say in how to fix the machine that he paid a half million dollars to buy? SHEESH!

[@COBARHORSE1]

Funny how they don't mention that.

[@xephael3485]

@@COBARHORSE1 yes it's amazing 😂

[@ExplodingPiggy]

....because a company only exists to make profit 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@bobdhitman]

There are ways around that…

[@CP-012]

Congratulations Deere, you’ve successfully reinvented the twin rotor design that New Holland mastered 45 years ago. Keep progressing!

[@lobbyrobby]

Bingo!

[@devon1195]

John Deere started using the twin rotor system way back with the original CTS.. 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@joetrojan2568]

@@devon1195 CTS merely and finally replaced straw walkers lmao

[@WarrenGarabrandt]

Maybe one day they'll invent a way that famers can fix their own equipment without having to shut down and wait for a tech with a laptop.

[@CP-012]

@@WarrenGarabrandt that would be progressive!

[@nosidenoside2458]

They should talk about the cool anti repair features next! 😃

[@shatteredsquare]

bet

[@mindfornication4funn]

Like you want some yahoo farmer woking on these complex systems....

[@toericabaker]

@@mindfornication4funn thats an anti consumer point of view.. your poor opinion of others doesnt mean that there arent shops that can't handle this machine. why are you licking the boots of a corporation anyway. they do that so you have to pay them, not because people are dumb

[@mindfornication4funn]

@@toericabaker If i built a machine and had to warrantee it, I would be the only one to repair it and charge a premium for it. If you and your kind dont like it, go build a machine for yourselves and stop crying like the poor, cheap, farmer, always in debt !!

[@sulawesi-steve]

​@mindfornication4funn you're either a troll or a single digit IQ kinda guy...

[@levicharles996]

Now to repair/diagnose it you’ll need to tow it to the dealer.

[@paul1862]

No shit look how complex this machine is. Clearly this is not for family farmers farming a few hundred acres, this machine is designed for mega farms operating as a business. Repairs are just another expense for such a business.

[@benchoflemons398]

@@paul1862yeah but you cannot get it repaired or diagnosed by an independent professional. It’s not allowed. Hence sub par repairs at a huge cost Also, all farms are businesses, they are just like any other business in every way.

[@xephael3485]

It has sophisticated computerized diagnostic and remote billing systems to make sure it gets fixed remotely... otherwise your 5th tow is free.

[@BradiKal61]

Oh you simply call a repair center and then pay two months income to get a teenager with a John Deere flash drive to plug it in and fix the problem

[@JJLCFC]

@@benchoflemons398 So the farmers have two choices, buy this one, or buy one that isn't locked down. I'm sure there are enough farmers willing to buy these - probably for good reason. And if there weren't, JD would use another strategy.

[@Gabberz123]

And don't forget! It's so efficient that when it inevitably breaks or jams you'll get to wait for a technician to come instead if fixing the simple issue yourself or it'll brick itself! Very important feature for the -shareholders- customer

[@xx_death_xx-de9eq]

The customer can purchase all of the same software and tools that the dealers have

[@lucasmoers]

I didn't know I needed to know how a harvester works. Thank you.

[@nuarius]

This is how everyone should feel about everything all the time :P my whole life is a constant stream of "ok but how/why" and honestly i cant think of the last time finding the answer didn't feel this way

[@PH4RX]

Do you want to drive one? I'll give you the key if you bring me 43 acres.

[@philo8035]

Well this animation settles it, I'm getting the X9 in FS22 as my next combine.

[@tomash9116]

I, too, wanted to buy a Prius, but now I feel a strange urge to buy some agricultural land and monitor my yield from the comfy cab of the X9.

[@PYROWORKSTV]

People will be jealous of me when I tell them that I'm about to drive a multi million dollar vehicle

[@shaun469]

Ill keep my 10.90

[@TB-sw1tf]

@@PYROWORKSTV Sorry but its not multi million....

[@Nderak]

same

[@Widderic]

What an absolutely insane machine. The animation really shows respect to how complicated the process is. How these things have been engineered over time blows my mind. These guys should be making space ships.

[@d1sternagle]

Good thing space is not real. You do not live on spinning ball with curved water. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@GoingRampant92]

@@d1sternagle Crawl back into your cave and watch the shadows on the wall.

[@Widderic]

some dumb people on this planet@@d1sternagle

[@Marcos-eg9lt]

@@d1sternagleyes we live on a plate carried by a big turtle

[@Xevion]

The engineers, maybe.

[@Nexalian_Gamer]

You forgot to show the self-destruct mechanism that activates when the user attempts to repair their tractor without John Deer's consent

[@izalman]

Is that when they spontaneously combust as most combines seem to do.

[@MCRuCr]

The combination of high tech mechanical engineering and plain farming makes this stuff so exciting

[@wildbill6976]

nothing "exciting" about high tech when it inevitably breaks down and you have to wait weeks for JD to show up and repair it...

[@theyoten1613]

"Plain" farming hasn't existed for 70 years. It's all science and engineering now, I studied some of it .

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

until you need to repair it.

[@thisismyname1920]

This isn't just a piece of farm equipment. It's en entire mobile processing plant too. Very impressive.

[@unwoundsteak17]

I'm just here because I've played an unhealthy amount of farming simulator. its crazy to see how dumbed down the game is

[@BuceGar]

What an amazing piece of technology! I am still completely blown away by what people working together in specialized fields can do. An unbelievable machine, keep up the good work!

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

untill you need to repair it. then it's not so amazing...

[@raifsevrence]

@@sheilaolfieway1885 this is where the world is going. everything that can be automated will be automated. there will always be gaps where machines cannot bridge parts of an operation. humans will have to fill those gaps. which means the awful jobs will become even more awful and will pay even less. welcome to the future mr jetson. get your button pressing finger ready.

[@willoughby1888]

You said "fields", that's punny!

[@LostButMakingGoodTime]

Great animation, great look at how a harvester works, but also obviously an ad for Big Green.

[@daveklein2826]

Who cares

[@John-ct5op]

@@daveklein2826 They are probably the most prominent anti right-to-repair companies out there.

[@Royallblu]

@@John-ct5op Apple... You can't even open a Phone, Pad or MacBook without special equipment and/or heat.

[@Misha-dr9rh]

​@@RoyallbluAnd you cannot fix modern john deere equipment without specialized closed source software that is not available to owners, only repair shops.

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

and totally hides the hideous repair cost.

[@DesertCookie]

Impressive. Now just allow the buyer to repair their own device and you are golden.

[@theders311]

I've spent countless hours during the summer driving grass seed combines. I knew the general stuff but this makes it even clearer

[@CogentConsult]

I’m an old farmer wannabe from way back: this animation showed me exactly how a combine works! Awesome!

[@scottrayhons2537]

Next combine I get won't be a green one. Dealers are getting too few and far between. One dealership own 20-30 locations. Time to move away from greedy green.

[@jeffb321]

Yeah that is a shame. This is what deere wanted though. Our local family owned dealership got bought out many years ago. Everything is pretty much Van Wall owned where I'm at.

[@robhardingham6770]

Interesting animation which helps show the process.

[@inthedarkwoods2022]

DUHHH:L.

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

But not the cost of towing it to a deere dealership for *EVER SINGLE REPAIR JOB*

[@robhardingham6770]

LOL I know what you mean.@@sheilaolfieway1885

[@crp5591]

This was fantastic! I had always wondered how a combine worked! Excellent animation and explanation!

[@northrockboy]

So basically a New Holland twin rotor system from the 80's.

[@luvelyjubely]

John deere had a twin rotor in the 80s-90s. It’s called the CTS ever heard of it?

[@AgrimotiveFarmMachinery]

John Deere first began development of rotary combines in the 1950's

[@christopherhughes2087]

you took the words out of my mouth ! Deere are very good at refining every other manufacturers designs .

[@bradlincoln2418]

@@luvelyjubelysure! Lol

[@outdoorlifemaine6691]

Well considering that hauls 13 tons and your combine in the 1980s weighed about 13 tonnes I think you're talkin out your ass also there was no such thing as push button LCD screens to turn on and off your Harvester I don't think on the 1980s machine there's a button that I can push for higher revs or lower revs

[@bunky060171]

I work for the company that supplies some of the components to Deere Harvester Works at Moline Illinois - from main rotor nose section, blower housings, complete chopper rotor assemblies, counter knife assembly, ducts, auger flighting, platforms (to get in to the cab), AutoTrak sat guidance, and probably many more. It is very, very cool to see how everything goes in to the final product - thank you for sharing this animation! When you see what all goes in to these incredible machines - you can get a sense of why they are north of $1,000,000+ [huge hat-tip to Deere & Co and all of their production partners for helping this 187 year old company continue to be successful and be an innovator]

[@MysteriousSlip]

@@willheheckaslike8315 I was thinking that too, but I imagine you wouldn't have one of these unless you had thousands of acres under plow. It's kind of crazy that it's a rolling factory/processing plant.

[@PBST_RAIDZ]

​@@willheheckaslike8315 no wonder that damm bread is so expensive

[@mynameisben123]

But also fuck you for making them intentionally hard to service and require special unobtainable tools.

[@dzcav3]

Your company should sell parts to the farmers who are prohibited by Deere from repairing their own machines.

[@BrokenSofa]

Why did the John Deere rep cross the road? To hand over the repair manual to the corporate lawyers who'll make sure no farmer ever gets to use it.

[@mredig]

Looks pretty cool! What’s happens if it breaks?!

[@TheChzoronzon]

You need to wait a week and pay thousands of dollars so a teenager with a John Deere exclusive pen drive can plug it in and fix the problem

[@maxscriptguru]

Probably some of the most important equipment on planet earth.

[@imogen1]

efficiency is the mother of fragility

[@ayuse01]

True.

[@synapticburn]

the entire universe is about tradeoffs between two ends of a spectrum. nothing unique here.

[@phlave]

I think KZbin is beginning to diagnose me with autism because I'm not a farmer, but I actually enjoyed this video. That said: Vote yes to pass the right to repair laws.

[@gregwill5372]

But Deere argued for years that axial combines weren't any good and that they would never have one.....😅😅😅😅

[@joetrojan2568]

JD = corporate marketing machine

[@hankpenner5328]

As I remember they did not say they were bad but cost to much to run and build at that time. Deere did have the rotary paten 1956.

[@emreerokyar]

Anyone else felt a sudden urge to play Farming Simulator after watching this? 👀

[@ron.v]

Farmers will look at this video and think what a marvelous piece of equipment this is. The rest of us see an abundance of food! Hats off to you farmers who allow us to eat well!

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

Farmers and some other people will see this video and continue to ask about repairing this machine.

[@ashnur]

you mean eat worse

[@RCVisionDigitalStudios]

I don't know how I found myself here. But I'm impressed by this.

[@TestingPyros]

My grandfather- in- law had one of the largest threshers ever built. Nest to see the changes!

[@2point2]

Went to the dealer to buy some grease for my piddley little sub compact. My 3 year old son was so excited to see a couple of theses up close. He's not afraid of much, but he wouldn't walk anywhere near the bussiness end lol.

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole nor would i touch the dealership knowing the crap they do look up john deere and right to repair.

[@scottdavy7715]

John Deere research and development bought a new Holland 10.90, changed a few things and painted it green. Innovation!

[@toledojeeper2932]

That makes no sense. You can say that about car manufacturers , microwave manufacturers , refrigerator manufacturers, stove manufacturers , etc , etc , etc .

[@josephprice2749]

The only reason John Deere is putting out this video and combine is because the patent for a “twin rotor” machine ran out and now they are able to use new holland tr combine (the og in twin rotor combines) and cr combine which is the updated version of the tr. Also if you were curious tr stand for twin rotor. Before the patent ran out John Deere and Case combines have been using a single “rotor” design which is unironically half as efficient.

[@johnelstad]

I really liked how the combine's parts are revealed and hidden to draw your attention to the current step in the process. For those who were curious about the price, new X9s cost between $900,000-$1,000,000 USD and used from about $650,000.

[@nickd3871]

HO-LEE SHNY-KEYS! A million bucks for one (Very Impressive) piece of farm equipment? So that is where all those gov't farm subsidy dollars go.

[@garywatson]

How many dollars worth of grain can the X9 harvest per year?

[@chrishaugh1655]

@@nickd3871 you think Famers make that much money off subsidies? LOL. Wait until you learn how expensive a brand new ladder truck is that your local fire department uses.

[@nickd3871]

@@chrishaugh1655 not sure it's the same. A million bucks for a grain harvesting machine vs life and property saving fire trucks. Government monies go towards both .

[@chrishaugh1655]

@@nickd3871 how do you think supplies all of our food? Can you live without food?

[@ГригорийМалинин-з8ы]

А ремонт этого комбайна в поле, это будет незабываемым опытом .

[@stepansml6713]

Может он не ломается?

[@philliphaines104]

Nice reproduction of the New Holland TR series from last millenium

[@Lislio]

Amazing, after watching this i purchased 3 of these

[@andriuspetkuz7992]

i love the fact, that in this simulation, Harvester rear tires is mounted backwards :D

[@Sodbuster346]

They actually arnt mounted backwards. All tires that are not driven by power get a half a turn for floatation in muddy conditions

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

I love the fact that this is a big ad for a company that forces the owner to tow their machines back to the dealer for expensive repairs.

[@lordlobster3439]

Seeder and combine in one. Everyone forgets that the Deer combines had to pretty much all get replacement engines. Plus New Holland is always going to be the leader of Twin Rotor combines.

[@interman7715]

Big green New Holland. Nothing copies like a Deere.

[@stevenarnold1960]

Everyone copies everyone else. Who copied who on the round baler, square baler, grain drill, moldboard plow and the lists goes on and on. They just just design it to there specs.

[@interman7715]

@@stevenarnold1960 JD has turned it into an art form .

[@stevenarnold1960]

@@interman7715 Wonder who's going to copy Deere's cotton picker and stripper?

[@scootyman3800]

i have absolutely no use for this video but im glad i watched it

[@jonatanschwindt8065]

They are awesome... until something fails... I saw one like this being stopped for days, until jhon deere people where able to get there... only to find a mouse chew on a cable... they just change a little wire and came back to life... so much for reliability

[@DrJohn493]

All good in theory but way to complex. Just more moving parts to break. And almost impossible to get to. Seems it would be really difficult for field maintenance and repairs, even if the owner/operator had the diagnostic codes to sort out the repairs needed. Always hated keeping the combines I drove for my dad back in the 70s/80s working in the field when green stuff (thinking here Johnson Grass) was sent thru the Case 1660s with the soybeans in the Fall.

[@its4michael]

actually service panels and access are getting better all the time. This is one of the easiest machines to field service. Rotar systems are more reliable and easier to maintain the the older systems.

[@TheNefastor]

Let me guess : "no user-serviceable parts inside" ?

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

yep and if you try expect a lawsuit

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

Who knew so much went into a combine. Cool animation.

[@joetrojan2568]

Looks like a New Holland TR70

[@Tfish8080]

I love green iron. But this design is similar to almost all twin rotor combines from other manufacturers Beautiful animation video btw

[@donaldpetersen2382]

But you're not allowed to fix it yourself???

[@JALA578]

Holy hell. Augers, drags, elevators, threshers, sheers, blower fand, pre cleaner shakers. This thing is basically a small plant on wheels. I had no idea combines had this many functions.

[@eskepan]

3:37 rip yt compression

[@jetrexdesign]

"Combine Advisor technology" Combine Advisors are enemies in the Half Life series. Interesting inspiration.

[@casinogotthis5462]

to bad they still won't let me work on my own equipment. how's the law suit...... big green

[@computernoise2209]

Me, not a farmer, reading the comments section: "Cool! But what about the... uh... reparability, yeah what about that?"

[@critical_always]

Unless you need to repair it. Then you're screwed.

[@nightsailor1]

Too cool. BSME approved.

[@markrix]

Right to repair! Bring production back home! So to your x9, i say nien!

[@jonkaminsky8382]

Not all men are created equal - the incredible technology we have gifted to the world is proof of that many times over, and spanning thousands of years.

[@HouseGurke]

Will this be big enough for my 50 sqare meter garden? I don‘t want to cheap out now only to buy the bigger model later because this one didn‘t cut it.

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

the repair bill will cut, *RIGHT INTO YOUR PROFITS*

[@armedfarm3429]

No, unless you can run night shifts also. Otherwise get 2 & have yer wife/GF help.

[@anonemous1046]

Do not forget the two week service backlog all Deere equipment has!

[@getl0st]

These are great until you want to fix it yourself....

[@Fluffy-Tail-0000]

I always wondered how they make Shredded Wheat. Nice video.

[@davidbell7091]

well.. apparently New Holland had it right all along.. who knew

[@ri1288]

One of the best comments here.

[@RNJuiceable]

This is like a rolling manufacturing system -- incredible

[@annasemisomberi]

Very innovative and a great demonstration of how these machines work.

[@jasonmarkus3834]

Yeah but can i fix it or do i have to pay 10k to bring it in for a diagnosis.

[@justtheimages]

You have to pay 15K for diagnosis, why do you think we make these? We have to make lots of dolares

[@Luchoedge]

and if it breaks, I can fix it myself, right? RIGHT?

[@JRotten]

How about acesss to software to help owner/operator to be able to troubleshoot and repair his own machine? Or does it sit in the field for two weeks waiting on a JD tech with a laptop to figure it out. Then another week to get replacement sensor, and two more weeks to get tech back out to fix it? Or just spend a grand each way to have it hauled to dealership for repair?

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

naa more like 3-4 months

[@mrbrown6421]

Excellent Info. Will it be able to harvest BugZ for our future food ? (apply humor where necessary)

[@WilliamWBG]

And you too can be a Deere combine owner for only $1.4M. Money needed to insure farm lobbyists have enough to keep those palms greased and subsidies paid to farmers for “lost revenue”

[@daveklein2826]

Liar

[@ImieNazwiskoOK]

@daveklein2826 Heh, keep praising the one who steals from you

[@jeffb321]

I think you're off by about a half million. If you included both heads you'd still be off by a $100 or $200,000

[@tobinspiller2056]

Incredibly informative -- thank you!

[@morrismonet3554]

That green paint must run about $100,000 per quart. Everything Deere makes is overpriced.

[@jeffb321]

Are you saying $400 is a lot for a fuel filter? 😅

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

including repairs.

[@deerefarmer7235]

Great animation.

[@Farm6699]

The use of robotics on the farm is a game-changer for reducing labor and maximizing yields!

[@marknicholson2718]

I would love to see a gleaner displayed like this

[@nicholaswilson7734]

They couldn’t make the bearings last long enough to animate it

[@LivingWaterEternal]

Great video and very clear for a non farmer to understand what is important.

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

until they hear about the repair cost.

[@timkis64]

and they expect an average farmer to be able to afford one.dream on john deere, dream on.

[@martinfarrell5778]

They don't, they expect the average farmer to go out of business and let corporate farms do it all.

[@jamesbarbour8400]

Yeah - three quarters of a million dollars for the combine itself, without the header ! In the region of anothe 200/250 K for a 50 foot header. Obscene amounts of money. How could any farm hope to pay that amount of money off, even over say a period of 10 years. All the while, the new kid on the block is losing money, hand over fist, in devaluation terms - the figures do not bear close scrutiny ! Guess John Deere has to ensure its shareholders get a good return on their investment, eh ! ?

[@tf7274]

Just buy 6 9600...find 6 operators...keep 6 combines fuelled and working now that they are nearly 35 years old...this is one way to do it, there are others.

[@toledojeeper2932]

@@martinfarrell5778..And yet I don’t know of any corporate farms in our area .

[@vinces8209]

​@@tf7274have 3 9600 there is little reason to get one now unless one is starting out or u can find a very well taken care of low hr unit. It's a good machine but it's age and as such certain parts availability isn't ideal if u need to get it fixed fast. There are many used parts available but in the next 5-10yrs that will be getting tougher so it's sadly a situation where having one around is fine but u basically need 2x the # of combines to ensure break down delays won't sink the ship.

[@sosaysthecaptain5580]

I shall update my mental model as derived from The Way Things Work when I was four. Thank you!

[@mishingraceag]

Interesting information.

[@Abcdefg1226ytytyrt]

So it works like a New Holland from 40 years ago

[@dennisbethards3231]

Took John deer fifty years to catch up to new Holland

[@mairo_tamm6214]

Why cant farming simulator combines look this good? Good information.

[@FishFind3000]

That costs money and time and they don’t want to invest that into a game.

[@Royallblu]

Because a PC game has to run on the slowest potato pc (or gaming console), so that everyone can buy it.

[@cannon440]

At $1,200,000.00 each, seems like John Deere is the one making the most profit from farming.

[@daveklein2826]

Prove it

[@spacebound1969]

For a machine with this level of complexity and size 1.2m seems reasonable.

[@steeldriver5338]

@@spacebound1969 I'd be more concerned about maintenance and the resolving of computer related issues tbh. That's a lot of moving parts. Holy crap.

[@JRotten]

​@steeldriver5338 And alot of sensors to go bad.

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

oh you havne't seen the repair policy.

[@user-qh1dk3fh5q]

My farmer neighbor has one of these machines and it had spent more time in the shop than in the field! He used his New Holland CR 8090 to finish up his beans! Now switching to corn!

[@jonleiend1381]

And impossible to fix even the smallest problem occurs.

[@kseyffert]

Very nice. Pity about John Deers anti consumer maintenance practices.

[@chrisanderson6837]

Well there is only three rotor designs to say they copied new Holland is like saying everyone puts the draw bar at the back of the tractor There’s only so many ways to do it. Lot of adjustments from the cab. Be great till it don’t work then what

[@joescheller6680]

You forgot Claas they still have the John Deere beat in overall capacity

[@tc4089]

you buy another one of course

[@myfpsaresuck6830]

Thanks! Will definitely be buying this!!

[@davehalser9351]

another deere steal new holland had this years ago

[@MacroAggressor]

So is it farmer repairable???

[@charlesferdinand422]

Haha, of course not you silly boy.

[@DaBurntToaster]

thats really cool! can I fix it myself?

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

nope

[@McStebb]

Very cool! Can you show a video on how to flash this machine with custom firmware so I can finally change my own oil?

[@ConnorWhite2020]

Cutting edge technology !

[@joescheller6680]

Actually the first and biggest rotary made was the field boss by white farm equipment. It was a very lighy built machine had lot of bearing issues because of using too small bearings. They were tsken over by Massy Ferguson and they further developed it but massy was falling at the time was never pursued..enough to make them the leader again.

[@interman7715]

IHC made the first big rotary ,they took the plunge and spent over 10 years and 100 million dollars in 1969s money and perfected it ,WHITE copied IHC and and released the 9700 Field Boss .IHC sued WHITE for patent violations and won .Ffs mate do some homework before you write nonsense.

[@joescheller6680]

@@interman7715 your wrong my man the guy that developed the rotor was working for IHC at the time they didn't want to pursue it so he took the design to New Holland. That's where the twinn rotor came into play had to change its design so as not to copy IHC who at the time didn't think it was a good idea

[@joescheller6680]

Actually the field boss changed their design so rotor ran cross ways to the machine similar to Gleaner. Do your home work.

[@jimmytee3599]

Everybody copies. The thing about deere is they copy better. They build it stronger more efficient better than the original then the original copies deeres superior design. Deere always wins.

[@leefury7]

Complicated and expensive with a ton of belts (and bullies and bearing to be greased). However, everything at your hands command. For larger people, the cab should be another 4" wider. I don't know if tires vs belts are an option as tires saves $ and actually offer less soil compaction. CLAAS, IMHO, offers a solid competition to the Deere.

[@sheilaolfieway1885]

and a better repair policy i bet.

[@leefury7]

@@sheilaolfieway1885 That's a given.

[@ogshermac]

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