John Foster Dulles: Defender of Global Security or Hawkish Interventionist?

Our historical documentary series on the history of the Cold War continues with a video on John Foster Dulles - American diplomat who played a crucial role in the history of the Cold War.
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[@gregcampwriter]

The Dulles brothers represented and carried out some of the worst evils that America committed in the twentieth century. They should be treated today as war criminals, not honored.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

Maybe one of them.

[@ketilflatnose4930]

doesn't preclude an episode about them. this is history, not a court. even if i might agree

[@gregcampwriter]

@@ketilflatnose4930 If you're not discussing the crimes against humanity committed by the Dulles brothers, you're not presenting all the history.

[@rich453]

@@ketilflatnose4930 this is entertainment not history

[@rich453]

@@robertortiz-wilson1588 Both

[@JohnDoe-zj5dj]

“Most of our viewers are not normal people” I’ve disappointed him.

[@TheColdWarTV]

not normal in a good way! :)

[@simplepixel5617]

@@TheColdWarTV Are you going to upload your work also on Nebula from Curiosity Stream?

[@John77Doe]

😧😧😧

[@Mr.Nichan]

@@TheColdWarTV I thought he was saying his being normal was the disappointment. I also didn't know about the Dulleses, but I also understand that that's why you tellus these things in these videos:)

[@ISawABear]

11:20 "As part of the vault experiment, it is populated by one man and 999 women" - Fallout wiki Alright there bud hold up-

[@sholahverassa8582]

Dude, as soon as i heard him saying it I was like "Wait a minute.. was it that one?.." And yup, our man David has made a peculiar but commendable choice of vaults xD

[@LukoHevia]

I don't see how someone who believes in American Exceptionalism and acted on it many times, can be called a "defender" of anything but the imperial interests of his overlords

[@sholahverassa8582]

*Someone is trying to sort out their economy and opposes foreign corporations* The US: I smell communism!

[@borntobea2938]

Hawk? In the country i am from we would name him a vulture.

[@billhanna2148]

🤔I would use buzzard ..it implies less altitude (and hence less effectiveness) and more of a thuggish short sighted bully.

[@ketilflatnose4930]

a buzzard in British english IS a hawk; and in American it's a vulture

[@andysouth6624]

Eisenhower warned of the Military Industrial Complex, yet appointed JFD as Secretary of State

[@stephenperrone8694]

Eisenhower warned of the Military - Industrial Complex at the end of his presidency probably when he realized he was duped by Allen Dulles' CIA. Allen Dulles submarined Eisenhower's summit with Kruschev by having the U2 spy plane with Gary Powers flyover Russia two weeks before the summit. It was conveniently under filled with Hydrogen gas so the U2 had to descend from the unreachable 80,000 foot elevation. Once it descended it could be and was shot down. The collaborative summit was this sabotaged.

[@Jack-rp6zy]

JFD can probably be considered both a hawk as well as a "shrewd statesman." I don't think the two are mutually exclusive.

[@alexeifrederickflores4021]

Only the Sith think in absolutes.

[@Unitedfruitco]

In my opinion……Horribly evil man. It’s a travesty that there is any institution named after these horrible men.

[@Marinealver]

We need a video on the formation of the KGB and one on the formation of the CIA.

[@ArgoLupus]

The Dallas brothers made history, Both of them fomented successful coups abroad, And one even managed to do so here, and play a huge role in covering it up.

[@Bell_plejdo568p]

Commited multiple gencoide and mass atrocities

[@parthamittra9058]

Great series. It would be nice to do one about the relationship between John and Allen Dulles and how the partnership shaped diplomacy in the 1950's. It seems like the Dulles brothers were the epitome of the 'Eastern Establishment'

[@asaa2234]

they shaped the unipolar world we live in today. total global dominance ever since

[@oldgringo2001]

Less than a minute into this video there's a major lapse: Allen Dulles was NOT the first Director of the CIA, which was established under Truman, not Eisenhower.

[@guytheobald5882]

He was the IST Civilian Director of the CIA - Was OSS SPY & helped create the CIA. Also Director no.1 MJ12 ... Created MK ULTRA 1953

[@rzpogi]

John Foster Dulles is one of the drafters of the US-Philippine Mutual Defense Treaty of 1951. It makes sure that if one side is attacked by a foreign power, the other would come to its aid. The treaty is still active today, but somewhat weakened by the possibility of its boosting agreement, US Visiting Forces Agreement, being scrapped next year.

[@StellarFella]

Oh yea! A treaty with a dictatorship instead of a democracy. The Dulles brothers loathed independent democracies. Especially the ones who chose to be neutral.

[@rich453]

that was to scare Mao and Ho

[@eccoregitv9484]

Post war Italy

[@czzted99]

That is very complex

[@brokenbridge6316]

I would love to see that video one day. That aside. Hey is that a profile pic of Colonel Klink from Hogan's Hero's?

[@eccoregitv9484]

@@brokenbridge6316 yess

[@insertname7032]

@@eccoregitv9484 a man of culture i see

[@itsblitz4437]

Yes

[@davidsalgado2185]

Hawk or Statesman? More like Criminal just like Allen Dulles.

[@billhanna2148]

🤔Hawk is still too dignified 🤓 BUZZARD that's more like it

[@Youngimperialist]

Geopolitics is not a game for the faint of heart as I'm fond of saying. Dulles acted in the intrest of american geopolitical goals. While it is true that he got his hands a bit dirty, no one in such a position of power can always avoid taking hash actions or making enemies.

[@oldgringo2001]

3:21 That's a picture of ALLEN Dulles, not his brother John.

[@billreed1628]

YUP.

[@gojo76]

Thank you ,never heard about him :)

[@kinanradaideh5479]

The Iranians and Guatemalans wanted to build for themselves the society they saw fit; but the Americans showed them the futility of an attempt at self-realisation and took away their ability to become who they want to be, all for the American corporate interest. What else could the result of these actions be, than the ideological nihilism which lead to corruption in those states decades later?

[@KZ-xt4hl]

@@panzerreiter1608 There is always a room for god where power and evil resides....certainly in capitalism too

[@lhpoetry]

I would argue that the corruption comes from the continued use of bribes, aid and other incentives to make the local governments pliable (read: to ignore their own laws) and dependent on the interests of corporations and foreign governments, rather than beholden to the interests of their own people. Big corruption usually comes where there is a large gap in power distance and wealth between corporations/foreign governments who dominate a country, and the local people in power for whom being dependent clients becomes the best option for becoming rich, since the means of production are foreign-owned and profits of the country are going overseas.

[@rich453]

the British too

[@theparadigm8149]

I have lived in Virginia for my whole life so far, and I am very familiar with Dulles Airport. However, I never knew what (or who) it was named after. Thanks for the video! 👍

[@StoriesandYarn]

This person's helped engineered the start of our bad relationship in Iran.

[@richardsimms251]

Excellent program. Thank you. RS. Canada

[@edoardopesce9226]

Usually people talking about JFD know nothing about him, his education, his work, his way of life and so forth. A lot of misconceptions about him. But he was a great lawyer, a skilled negotiator, a sort of living encyclopedia and a man who got acquainted with foreign affairs since the age of 19! As a European myself I consider him one of the few American statesmen who really knew Europe and cared about her. By the way he can be considered one of the fathers of European integration, along with two giants who were personal friends of him, Jean Monnet and Conrad Adenauer. Study more about JFD.

[@asaa2234]

if youre european maybe google "operation gladio" to see what he was up to. also he was really good at making sure nazis never faced consequences. for example, the head of west germany intelligence after the war was a man handpicked by dulles- reinhard ghelen, ex highest ranking nazi in charge of intelligence on the eastern fromt. same guy who hired Konrad fiebig who was charged with murdering 11 thousand jews. allen dulles was instrumental in keeping ghelen and fiebig out of any trails or charges

[@asaa2234]

allen also attempted to cut a deal with heinrich himmler to allow him to work in the US. beyond these examples, hes helped many many high ranking nazis escape through "ratlines" into the US govt or if that failed, south america as civillians

[@Bell_plejdo568p]

No he didn’t look at what he did in Italy and Spain, France as well he was a horribale persona

[@victorperfecto7472]

His brilliant mind does not clean his dirty tactics and evil legacy

[@rich453]

Study more about Foster's pro-Nazi investment...

[@Moshe_Kraintz]

I thought the airport was named after Allen Dulles.

[@thomasjones2067]

I believed in American Exceptionalism until 1992 in November.

[@gevara454]

Still to this day the damage this two brothers cause on the world is on match...

[@sahholsteins1]

Watching dancing coffin memes and got a notification from the cold war channel, time to get serious lol

[@yourboy4005]

You deserve more views and subscribers

[@Daruliable]

Interesting video, like it 👍🏽

[@stevenuanna4747]

How many people know who Dulles Airport is named after? A poll of passengers at Dulles would be interesting. “The memory of the just is blessed: but the name of the wicked shall rot” Proverbs 10:7

[@Himalayanpakki]

Can you share the background score . Also of podcast ..????

[@ingridlinbohm7682]

Do not forget Cardinal Avery Dulles.

[@EsperosK]

"otherwise I would speaking to you from Vault 69" if that's a Fallout reference, I love it

[@tv9mpeti]

I hope you will still do another video just about the Hungarian uprising of 1956.

[@fugeekue8741]

He was a warmongering hawk

[@fundamentos3439]

The Iranian & Guatemalan coups proved to be disastrous in the long run.

[@stephen9869]

Spot Tony the Tiger :P

[@UpcycleElectronics]

What was happening behind closed doors and out of public awareness during this era? It seems like the political stalling was far more calculated than the indecision presented on the public side of the political coin.

[@Crafty_Spirit]

It's hard not to dislike this guy for me as I am related by blood though distantly with Jacobo Arbenz Gúzman, the Guatemalan president who was deposed by actions of the Dulles brothers and the United Fruit Company 😡

[@CelldwellerX]

The Dulles brothers really aren't the guys to do "shades of gray" soft focus bullcrap episode on, this one's a miss. They rival Kissinger with the blood on their hands.

[@FortuneZer0]

I take John Foster Dulles over Henry A. Kissinger ANY day of the week.

[@bigk8210]

I came here after reading "The Brothers" by Stephen Kinzer. I highly recommend it 💯

[@hugoc1861]

I was checking some videos of OSS ofiice strategic informations prior than CIA, and the creation Gladios groups.

[@VictorSanchez-kx5hb]

Pretty Good!

[@lachbullen8014]

Yeah the US is right to intervene in any Nations affairs didn't seem to work the way they wanted to

[@realadex9655]

They set a lot of precedence in foreign policy

[@Michael-mh2tw]

2:24 American exceptionalism isn't AT ALL what it is described as in this video. It is the belief that America is unique in its abilities and its system, and has a fundamental upper-hand and responsibility because of it. It's nothing to do with interventionism.

[@ramona14220]

Showing Walter Cronkite when talking about Nagy?

[@jerry12314]

Glad to see Mundane Matt is now hosting this show.

[@jerry12314]

@Ajit Adonis Manilal I dont know what you are talking about mister.

[@veiko23]

I’m shocked what Google had done to this video! I’m your subsriber and had “bell notification” for anything new. It never noticed me about this one! Sure, personally I’m in “lockdown” in Europe and have no possibilities to watch anything much nowadays. But having ten times less of viewers than your subscribers makes me wonder...

[@freeclark2002]

At the point where you began to talk about the uprising in Hungary, you mention a Hungarian leader while showing footage of US broadcaster Walter Cronkite. This should be clarified.

[@WildBillCox13]

Liked and shared.

[@TheLoyalOfficer]

No one ever called him "JFD"...

[@matthewstevens4462]

Everyone calls you “GAY” Get neyneyed

[@stephenwright8824]

I didn't think so either and his using the initials got me thinking that his brother's name was Bobby lol

[@ZoomZip]

it was for simplicy sake to say his name all the time. Don't be stupid.

[@alexportiiii6414]

Allen fought tirelessly to allow the Nazis to purchase Nickle which allowed Hitler to build an army to start WWII. How is this not in your story? The two brothers were almost conjoined twins. Thanks for the conversation.

[@lhpoetry]

The Ike and Dulles regimes just make me so frustrated. The US has had so many chances to be the champions of freedom, democracy, and the little guy. And they would have so much more global influence if they had...but the lack of imagination, especially with Iran and Guatemala, and the siding with the Belgians in the Congo and the French in Vietnam...racism and colonialism. :/ Iran would could have been a stalwart US ally if they would have sided against BP and gone for a 50-50 oil revenue split. Also, I struggle to understand how leaders who showed such shrewdness in making West Germany and Japan stalwart US allies and promoting the growth of US allies through the Marshall plan could have the exact opposite approach to plantation colony states. Racism? Or just that these countries didn't have the strength to stand up to a bully? I like how this video contextualized that with the Dulles family pedigree and private interests, I didn't know that part.

[@thetreblerebel]

The 1950s, what a time in America..major advancement

[@marcusaurelius9123]

Eisenhower was most unwise to have both the Dulles brothers appointed to such sensitive offices CIA director & secretary of state. A fateful error

[@alexernst9448]

11:25 Nice.

[@SuperpowerBroadcasting]

"Defender of Global Security or Hawkish Interventionist?" Why not BOTH? Hawk gang for life!

[@jamesmterrell]

Oh yes, part of a government's job is to protect business interests abroad.

[@pedrogonzalesgonzales5097]

US gave the impression that intervention would be forthcoming in favour of the Hungarian rebels if they rose up. But , then did nothing, despite encouragement of the rebels.......it also failed the Shiites who rebelled against Saddam after the first Gulf War under similar circumstances

[@patrickblanchette4337]

18:45 He was both.

[@beachboy0505]

Great video, I am educated

[@scoutgamer9448]

what happened to the Chinese People's Volunteer Army after Korea??

[@axelpatrickb.pingol3228]

Return as victors and heroes, get back at being PLA soldiers, some died, others got denounced, most live through as normal... I presume...

[@parthamittra9058]

.Peng Du Hai ,the head of the force, became Defense Minister until he was removed in 1959 because he criticized The Great Leap Forward in a private letter to Mao.

[@scoutgamer9448]

@@parthamittra9058 does the PVA still exists?

[@parthamittra9058]

@@scoutgamer9448 To my knowledge no. But PVA was a bit of a cover for regular PLA,some volunteers but most were combat veterans from the Chinese Civil War

[@user-bl8xf2oi7e]

You should do australia in the cold war

[@stephenwright8824]

Dien Bien Phu: so in the seventy plus years since it happened, we have coopted the French name for their operation as Ours? Look deeper and you may find that Allen Dulles DIDN'T have a name for his intervention scheme. Or I've, at fifty-two, already lived too long.

[@kjfer8326]

Can't wait for Kissinger!

[@Locoricio]

Leaving out the Indonesian chapter is a huge omission.

[@aidanflaherty6183]

The second you said "according to Stephen Kinzer" I patted myself on the back. Kinzer's my favorite writer of historical commentary...EVERYONE GO READ HIS BOOKS

[@bremnersghost948]

1956 should be considered one of Americas Darkest Years, Allies Betrayed on Multiple Fronts. CONUS was pretty much Safe from Soviet Attack in 1956, While Europe was the Battlefield.

[@boobah5643]

That's an... interesting... definition of 'American exceptionalism.' I can see where a belief that America is awesome could lead one to embrace foreign adventures to make the world more like America, but that's a possible consequence, not the thing itself. It's equally possible to believe that America is unique and awesome and think that it's futile to try to force the rest of the world to pretend to be American when they're not.

[@vinozarazzi5633]

The audio is out of sync with the video

[@glenrothwell6608]

This man is everything wrong with cold war America

[@GabrielAlejandroZorrilla]

I just wanna know what's in the cup.

[@elzur7434]

The TV overlay is a bit strange. You're covering footage to add a TV overlay? Just let us see the footage. Great show otherwise!

[@elausraliano]

A defender of US business interests abroad.

[@beorntwit711]

Churchill was once quoted as saying 'Dull, duller, Dulles.' (alleging that one of the brothers, probably JFD, was a dullard).

[@FairyBlew]

11:30 Dien Bien Phu was the last major battle of the first indochina war, I believe, not the second.

[@gerdforster883]

That depends on how you count them. One could argue that either the resistance against the Japanese or the British "police action" right after the end of WWII counts as the first. Or even the french initial intervention in the 1860es that resulted in Vietnam and its neighbours becoming a french colony in the first place.

[@stephen9869]

Yesssss 😁👊

[@Andrew-cn7zy]

I think you meant that the Battle of Dien Bien Phu was the turning point of the First Indochina War.

[@03stmlax]

The second one

[@johnmaxwell1750]

I take issue with one statement here. American exceptionalism is not a belief that inherently confers upon US political and military leaders a right to forcefully intervene in the the rest of the world. American exceptionalism is a belief that the US political system and founding principles are uniquely good. Although some US interventionists have believed in American exceptionalism, this is not always the sole motivation for US intervention abroad. In many cases the primary motivation for US intervention historically was to aid foreign victims of aggression, or was to retain power of democracies against authoritarian regimes.

[@_vallee_5190]

Hungary only withdrew from the Soviet Union after the start of Soviet invasion. Had the USSR allowed Hungary it's liberalisation process, Hungary was clear in not wanting to withdraw from the pact and maintain good relations with the rest of the block, had the USSR not been so aggressive.

[@Mr.Nichan]

11:31 You mean the FIRST Indochina War 1st = 1946-1954 2nd = 1955-1975 (incl. the "Vietnam War") 3rd = 1975-1991

[@Prozrenie]

The phrase is CASAS BELLI, *NOT* Causas!! Look it up if you want!

[@elmersbalm5219]

it wasn't about fighting communism or colonialism. It was an opportunity to extend hegemony and US style colonialism.

[@The1920sChannel]

Which skill is that Vault-Tec bobblehead for?

[@TheColdWarTV]

Charisma...

[@darrellepickering8433]

It was thought they were implicated in the death of Dag Hammerskold.

[@209Richsta]

Lol it's funny how Foster Dulles and Allen Dulles are complete opposites when it comes to personality. But identical with the good vs evil ideology lol.

[@Inglesemente]

People criticize the US for not intervening in Hungary in '56, but when they intervened in Vietnam they get criticized for intervening. This video provides a very superficial and look at the Eisenhower administration. Another way of looking at it is that Eisenhower was a non-interventionist from a military point of view, as exemplified by the fact that he did not escalate the war in Vietnam (during the 1950s there were only up to 3000 US personnel in Vietnam); if the Eisenhower administration had intervened militarily in Hungary, like this video suggests it should have, maybe there would have been a war in Europe of the same magnitude as that in Vietnam.

[@kylegoodreau2170]

3:27 is a picture of his brother Allen so is 5:15 and it’s not operation success it’s operation pbsuccess

[@michaelkirschner]

11:00 We are MASSIVE RE+ALIA+ION! DuhDuhDuhDuhDuh

[@jaikalapa6580]

Vault 69 eh? Priorities in order i see

[@WildBillCox13]

"Twinkle twinkle little Sputnik, What you are I know not whatnik, Is there room up in your hullnik, For Ike and Dick, and Foster Dullnik?" -Anon .

[@maximilianogarciachirinos3663]

I like IKE

[@martind5565]

Ah vault 69 where we keep the gag balls and leather gear.....

[@jamesmterrell]

In general, you do a good job. However, you frequently overlook or just skim over the context of the time which includes fears and political drama at the time.

[@jerry12314]

Being a hawk against communism is good to me.

[@rickytorres8566]

Even if you antagonize whole population's that are going to hate you worse than if you had done nothing at all.

[@thewolfofswingthat2035]

problem is he is a hawk against those who arent communist . hawk against communist is just a cover for corporate interest.

[@Maple_Cadian]

Even if the hawk overthrows demorcarcies and installs dictators?

[@victorperfecto7472]

He’s no hawk against communism only. He’s a natural hawk that would swoop anyone that would cross America’s greeby business and elitist interests

[@shanejones7906]

Dulles had it right on U.S policy during the Cold War. There's no way the United States could sustain the massive forces required in Europe and elsewhere to stop an all out Soviet invasion of West Germany and Western Europe so money went to building a massive bomber fleet and nuclear weapons to deter the Warsaw Pact. Then like now, our so called NATO allies were unwilling to do their part and provide more than token manpower and support. Hence why I think NATO and other defense alliances the United States has outside of the western hemisphere should be phased out.