John Harbaugh GETS REAL on Zach Orr hate, WILD narratives form on Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens

We look at Baltimore Ravens head coach John Harbaugh having words for Zach Orr haters, discussing what was said and more. We also look at the new narratives forming around Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens, an updated look at the team's playoff scenarios and more.
John Harbaugh GETS REAL on Zach Orr hate, WILD narratives form on Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens
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[@davemeni]

The thing that irks me most is that pundits keep saying Josh is “doing MORE with less.” No he’s not! He is doing LESS with less. His starts are inferior to Lamar’s. By definition then he is doing less. It doesn’t eliminate the narrative, but it does significantly change it.

[@m1ke.r0ckz]

The babbling talking heads in the media never mention Allen's much weaker schedule n weaker division. I wonder why? 🤔

[@jacobsims8307]

@@m1ke.r0ckzcan you imagine if bmore played the jets, phins, and pats twice? 6 easy wins.

[@aaronbutler9373]

Josh is a media concoction. Nothing more.

[@Richboy9968]

FACTS!!!

[@jamesbullock4]

Malik and Hamilton playing in their spots has been nothing shy of amazing

[@michaelaldrich2490]

I Pray the Ravens win the AFC Championship and be Celebrating on the Chief's field for the trip to the SB, pray that thd People of Kc get over it

[@michaelaldrich2490]

Ravens secondary is playing alot better now that's huge

[@DylanVolksVictim]

After Marlon came out TWICE and said it was a player issue, anyone who kept blaming ZO just isn't a serious person and wanted to hate him

[@bengorniak2721]

THAT part.

[@slimreaper4937]

Bring on anybody!

[@jeremiahw1369]

Lamar's best argument might be outdueling Burrow twice, and Allen head to head. Burrow is messing up the national narratives.

[@FlagShipFantasy]

The media and Allen fans argued last year having diggs doesn’t matter when it came to his mvp discussion, now they want use it against Lamar for having a rb, Lamar is leading Josh in all stats outside of rushing tds that has nothing to do with Henry and has won mvps and has dominated without top tier talent. Media claims lj had all this talent and all we did was add one player, the rest of our talent is home grown. The ravens have never gone out and got an elite pass catcher in his prime, using the narrative that lj has more talent that the ravens developed and drafted is weak. It’s clear they are trying to give the mvp to Josh cuz he hasn’t won one. The mvp is about the most valuable player in the league not just team, I think Josh is a good player but the whole do more with less is pathetic Lamar has done that for 6 years and to say it’s about big wins is also weak lj best 5 playoff teams last year Josh has beat 2, the ravens were the 1 seed last year bills are the 2 this year, stop comparing last year to this one it’s not the same

[@m1ke.r0ckz]

Apparently to the babbling talking heads on tv Amari Cooper and James Cook are nobodies, and Josh having a top 5 O-line doesn't mean anything. Also, why would they mention Joshies cake walk schedule and playing in a weak ass division against bums like the Jets and Patriots for 4 games when the talking heads can talk about Lamars loss to the Chiefs the first game of the season when the Chiefs were playing their starters preseason and the Ravens weren't. Yes they lost the Raiders but that was because of a brand new O-line and bad pass defense had nothing to do with Lamar. Lamar has yet to have a bad game like Josh has had and Josh has had a few including worst completion percentage in 30 years sorry but that can't be one of the records for MVP.

[@raynmaker629]

Lamar had 36 tds throwing to rookie Hollywood Brown, Seth Roberts , Miles Boykin and Willie Snead. Let's not confuse that with Amari Cooper please. Just stop.

[@jeremiahw1369]

Buffalo has an elite offensive line, not just good. Amari Cooper makes more money than the Ravens' 17:45 entire wr room and had 1,200 yards last year with 5 qbs. James Cook has as many touchdowns as Derrick Henry in a fraction of the touches.

[@timpearson4171]

Anybody!!

[@m1ke.r0ckz]

Apparently Brady, Manning, Rodgers, etc. shouldn't have won their MVPs because they had talent around them. Like wtf is the media doing right now they're just talking out of their asses trying to make weak arguments to give it to an undeserving Josh Allen over well deserving Lamar. I mean it sucks for Josh that Lamar exists but he does. It is what it is. Can't just give it to Josh because Lamar is too good n will be deserving almost every single year he plays. I mean Lamar didn't win every year he played. Why didn't Josh play better the years Lamar didn't win it.

[@brandontillman553]

I never had problems with Zach Orr he is a young defensive coordinator you can't give up on him only one year for him b a defensive coordinator. Even veteran defensive coach who we had always had problems. During the season. 2 years ago we had problems either way we had the number one defense in the league

[@shannonwells3427]

Mike McDonalds first year was just like Zack orrs first year bad to good!!

[@m1ke.r0ckz]

Just out of curiosity who won the head to head matchups between Lamar and Josh or Lamar and Joe? My memory isn't great so can one of those babbling talking heads remind me. Also can they tell me why Lamar won two MVPs without Derrick? or why the Ravens were better last year without Derrick? Or why Derrick is having a career year at age 30? The Ravens lost talent on defense as well especially at O-line and Josh has a top line in the entire NFL. Lamar is playing with a very young essentially brand new O-line. The Bills also play in a weaker ass division playing against bums and had a cake schedule but apparently we're not allowed to mention that.

[@Simoneskyye410]

💯💯💯

[@scottjarrett4893]

I didn't know the coaches committed any penalties

[@NINJA_INVESTORS]

You never heard of Mike Tomlin????

[@riley3859]

the talent looks good based on who threw them the ball. 2nd hardest schedule! passer rating. Players do not control who they play. But the quality of their play anyone can see with their stats and player rating. What that player does to affect the team. Clear winner in MVP is a no Brainer! Allen makes his backs better and WD and TE... but the juke and quality of decision making is all LJ

[@seancoles3052]

LJ MVP We're fighting from victory! not for victory

[@SodaPopinksi]

I'd rather them face Pittsburgh because dobbins is back looking good.

[@miker9482]

Lamar is 2-5 when Henry has less than 90 yards. Allen is 8-3 when Cook has under 90 yards. That pretty much tells the whole story. Allen is unstoppable all on his own, Lamar needs help.

[@seancoles3052]

This is stupid bills had the same options to draft pick up and trade, they have had a diggs, he the only one I know but. The bills have the team they have because of how they've built their team, they chose to have a diggs instead of a lineman or 2, really has more to do with years prior then it does this current year, KO I put it to you like this Lamar is the MVP, pretty much cause we say so, no reason needed and josh stands keep making all these excuses

[@lauratopliffe8179]

Morning Kevin. Please get some sleep 😊 Are you eating? Bring on the Chargers! ⚡️

[@EricButler-b1u]

I'm tired of MVP conversation Around Lamar let's talk about Super Bowl champion Lamar let's get there

[@Richboy9968]

😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈

[@BigZ52]

Defense didn't struggle at the beginning half of the year. . . They were complete and udder garbage

[@nemesis5289s]

Lamar should be the MVP now that we've all but locked up the division his stats are better his impact is better but I'm not going to allow you to come on this show and say that Shakira is a good player the dude is a wide receiver three or four on 90% of the teams in the league Mack Hollins is a scrub and a career wide receiver 5 Dalton Kincaid is like the most mid tight end in the league James Cook definitely a talented running back for sure that's probably the most talented guy in the offense next to Josh Allen but it's insane to me to penalize players for their lack of talent or the abundance of talent that they play with the MVP is about your performance and how you elevate your team and teammates

[@GaryWilliams-r5n]

Whether you like it or not quarterbacks are defined by super bowls. I do it myself. My brain tells me that Marino and Moon were great quarterbacks but down deep in soul I knock them down a peg because of not winning a superbowl.

[@AlejandroRease]

U shouldn’t.. Superbowls r won by Teams not individuals Qb throws . Offensive line block Receivers Catch .. plain and simple… Warren Moons Houston teams never good enough to get by the bills.. Miarino never had a running game , when he did get to the superbowl he ranned n2 the Niners This is b4 Jerry rice