John Major slagging off Brexit, is Scottish independence dead, and buffer zones | Podcast #93

[@thelegend_doggo1062]

It’s interesting how people in England talk about the implosion of the SNP when they are still polling between 30 and 40%. And meanwhile Labour got just 33% across the UK and 35% in Scotland in the election. Taking into account the number of people who voted Labour to get the tories out, when normally they would vote SNP, I reckon the SNP will do better than a lot of people expect in 2026. Especially with the SNP’s track record of pretty effective campaigning. Also by 2026 I imagine people will be pretty sick of Starmer

[@daftgowk1]

I know, they seriously don't think we voted Labour to stop them dragging us into more malicious Tory rule. Terrible decision makers

[@didyeaye2481]

All the craft brewers in Ireland are selling the IPA in these god awful 440ml cans....not the traditional 500ml bottle. Fuck the breweries. That has nothing to do with anything I'm just ranting.

[@syvus1307]

good thing theyre shit then isnt it

[@bernieburrows3731]

I disagree with Ed, Scottish independence is not dead. The support for the snp and the support for independence are two separate things.. Ava gives more of a case for independence than Ed.

[@debbiegilmour6171]

Three polls were released in the past few days. They each showed yes/no% support of 47/53, 49/51 and 44/56. The 44/56 poll was conducted by YouGov who tends to overestimate the level of support for subjugation by England. What it actually shows is that support hasn't budged and Yes could well be in the lead given a 3% margin of error in typical polling. Also, the long term trend for support for independence has been an increase.

[@PorthLlwyd]

Ed Campbell: "Scottish Nationalist Party" The mask has slipped....

[@connorlatimer]

"Holds up three fingers"

[@alastairorr6318]

"Scottish Nazi Party" led by "LITTLE HITLER", "Fishface" Nicola Sturgeon.

[@evildude951]

Join a climate protest? Straight to jail, no matter the reason. Buy nonce photos? Nah we need to think about the factors behind his noncing.

[@markwelch3564]

but think of the paintings! Clearly the safety of paintings is more important than the safety of children 🙄

[@WakeupAndsmelltherosemarys]

Not impressed by Scot guy’s knowledge about independence and the first referendum. He sounds very pro unionist to me.

[@kokunaijin]

We went through a pretty late miscarriage recently and the idea that the police would be involved is horrible. We live in Japan so thankfully nothing like that happened but it is a horrible, horrible experience that is traumatic enough without police being involved. Whatever minute possibility you are trying to prevent by involving the police is just not worth it. A woman automatically feels enough guiilt and blame without being investigated. It took a lot to convince my wife that it wasn't her fault without a copper scribbling in their notebook over our shoulder.

[@jmo8934]

Leaving the EU will go down as one of the most bizarre, self defeating, delusional moves by a developed country of all time.

[@diabl2master]

By half a country. The other half were dragged into it.

[@IllusionistBeatsOfficial]

​@JasononsaJ why should someone have to move country because idiots made poor decisions on their behalf?

[@NeonVisual]

The solution would have been to have a referendum on the creation of the Maastricht treaty. We didn't because the government of the time felt the public would have chosen "no", so they just did it anyway, and eventually it came back to bite the Tories in the backside. So we ended up with UKIP being the biggest party in the EU parliament and most of the country voting for Farage. The only ones complaining about this now are remoaners. For some reason they think if they moan hard enough, eventually they will get their way and obliterate democracy. They are deluded, and I don't see any of them leaving the UK to go and live in the EU, it is they who want to drag the electorate back in, not leave voters dragging anyone out. Try moving to the EU and see how green that grass is on the other side, with the far right taking a stranglehold just as happened in the 1930's. People gave their lives to protect the UK from the far right, and now remoaners simply want to wash that blood away, pretend it didn't happen, and ignore the latest uprising of the European continental right.

[@IllusionistBeatsOfficial]

@@NeonVisual your logic is absolutely fucked, and your information is false.

[@Marcus-mx9yg]

@@NeonVisual if you haven't noticed, it was the far right that created this brexit problem to begin with. Mr brexit himself - farage, runs our own version of the far right, we are no exception to the rule and we would be more prosperous in the EU. Please tell me why leaving the EU was a good idea, it has made us poorer and more isolated

[@anotheracademicwithhornrim3247]

I showed my hairdresser a picture of Ed’s hair for my most recent trim. I’m a literal Ed head

[@rainblaze.]

You won't get any sympathy round here. it was your own choice

[@kokunaijin]

I'm a 40 year old man with a relatively successful business and two kids in Japan, having been here for 17 years, but every time I watch these podcasts, I get the urge to try to get an internship/tea boy job at PoliticsJoe. That'll be a funny mid-life crisis, I suppose... I'm forever flabbergasted by post-Brexit Referendum England. It feels like the whole government and many people of the country got brain damage in 2016. I seriously think you should look at the water supply. I can't explain it well but it's like the country got stuck and don't know what to do with themselves.

[@Lamartine111]

Every country has its problems and the UK is no worse than most. And many of the serious problems we face are not unique to one country: housing crisis, spiralling inequality, stagnant wages, climate change etc.

[@kokunaijin]

​@@Lamartine111 You caught me at the laptop. It isn't the problems (we have our own here, for sure) but the response. It seems like a lot of quibbling over the unimportant but sexy stuff without actually doing anything and everyone accepts it. It seems like the government is coasting along, waiting for another disaster. I dunno, it just feels like more was happening/being done before 2016.

[@sciencefliestothemoon2305]

​@@Lamartine111within the developed areas you do usually worse since 2016, starting a bit before that.

[@Lamartine111]

@@kokunaijin I agree but I will give the new government the benefit of the doubt as they have been in post for two months and haven't even passed a budget yet. There are solutions to our problems it's just they would involve making the obscenely wealthy (by which I mean billionaires and massive international corporations) slightly less so, therefore they probably won't happen.

[@hashburystumble8808]

With the emphasis on England

[@williamcrann155]

Was that a Laura Bing Bong

[@alex31721able]

I'm pretty sure it's a stock child clip

[@NewExperienceExplorer]

i watch the show but i'm not a boffin what did ed say instead of the big bong ?

[@girv98]

it's the child from this morning imitating Big Ben lol

[@girv98]

​@@NewExperienceExplorer I assume it was an Edwina Currie joke

[@teabagtowers3823]

​@@girv98 Yeah that's what I thought as well.

[@paulcrowther8240]

Basically no one charged with possession of indecent images, as a first offence and pleading guilty would get an immediate custodial sentence. If they were you’d have to double the prison capacity in the UK to accommodate them all. He’s not got any special treatment, that is the sort of sentence you’d expect.

[@verityviolet]

Exactly! Are these two feigning ignorance? Or have they not bothered to read. FARK

[@rainbowevil]

Seems pretty lenient for such an offence.

[@paulcrowther8240]

@@rainbowevil I think maybe most people don’t realise this is the case. I think the way the media covered it was really poor.

[@KevinHorrox]

Not only this, but if you read the judgement, which is now available, the judge's comments provide a lot of reasoning to the decision. The judge accepts that Huw did not pay for IIOC, did not directly ask for IIOC, specified to the person he was in contact with not to send images of anyone underage, he did not substantively "make" any IIOC, and also the judge further accepted that there was no evidence to suggest he sought other sources of IIOC or did anything other than open the images in WhatsApp. While at first glance all the stories would have you believe Huw to be a monster, upon reflection, the sentence seems reasonable and justified overall.

[@IllusionistBeatsOfficial]

@@KevinHorrox you just said he searched for iioc and then said he isn't a monster in the same comment. Care to elaborate?

[@EamonCoyle]

I would personally equate the way Cameron and the Tories treated Scotland in relation to the referendum wasn't much different to the way they treated Republican prisoners during the first hunger strike. They made lots of promises and said things would change etc, remember the speech by Cameron; but once the vote went the way of Westminster they stepped back and changed nothing !!

[@PJH13]

I agree they didn't do enough (my preference would be a federalised UK with England divided up into 5 or 6 regions) but there were a few major things. E.g. Holyrood got full control over Scottish income tax and various other duties. Ultimately money is power so that was quite a change

[@EamonCoyle]

@@PJH13 I would say you are right about the tax changes, you just have to look at how they have used it. Free university fees, separate NHS pay deals and not cancelling winter fuel allowance to mention a couple. I am in Belfast, a united Ireland is my ultimate aim but from a logical perspective I would love full autonomy if we could find a couple of decent leaders lol. I think the fact Westminster will lose financial control is the main thing that is stopping any further moves towards English devolution etc.

[@PJH13]

​@@EamonCoyle Yh, that's part of why I like devolution. It moves control on local issues closer to where they matter and gives each national community the chance to reflect their identity, without losing the benefits of pooling our strengths where it makes sense (e.g. national security). It works pretty well in Aus and Canada so we should take their lead

[@h-Qalziel]

You seemed sceptical about the chances and opinions of Scottish Independence. There were lots of polls done on multiple different questions in the lead up to the anniversary with surprising results: Survation asked 2059 adults: "Thinking about the balance of power between the Westminster Parliament and Scottish Parliament, which parliament should have power to call a referendum on Scottish independence?" 58% said Holyrood 42% said Westminster When do you believe Scotland will become independent? 6% said within the next two years 13% said within two-five years 21% said within five-10 years 16% said within 10-20 years 14% said more than 20 years 31% said never therefore 56% of Scots think the country will be independent by 2044, and 70% believe it will leave the UK eventually. When should Scotland have a second referendum? 18% said within the next two years 20% said within two-five years 17% said within five-10 years 10% said within 10-20 years 9% said more than 20 years 25% said never therefore 55% of Scots want to see a second referendum within 10 years, and 65% within 20 years YouGov found support for independence was generally similar to 2014 (45% to 55%). However, they also found that if independence meant rejoining the EU then 56% of people would vote Yes, while 32% would vote No. Opinium found support for Scottish Independence at 45% to 47% for no. They also found a similar result to Survation where most people support Holyrood having the right to hold a refendum as opposed to Westminster.

[@andrewwotherspoona5722]

The public services in Scotland are still considerably better than in England.

[@user-py2mf3nb8g]

Well the schools aren't...... And the roads north of the central belt definitely aren't....drive much?

[@alastairorr6318]

Worst in the whole of Britain by far.

[@andrewwotherspoona5722]

@@alastairorr6318 Rangers supporter. Explains it

[@alastairorr6318]

​@andrewwotherspoona5722 Run along now paedo

[@ThisSickGuy]

@@alastairorr6318kinda like your stadium 😬

[@FallenPhoenix86]

Scottish Independence, a question of "When" not "if". 10 years on from the referendum, it's an issue that has never gone away... and it's not going to.

[@Mmjk_12]

when hell freezes over then lmao

[@takenoprisoners-u3x]

@@Mmjk_12 That will be the UK this winter then eh?

[@Mmjk_12]

@@takenoprisoners-u3x no? 😂

[@Dere2727]

People said the same about Quebec 40 years ago

[@FallenPhoenix86]

@@Dere2727 Breaking news, Scotland is not Quebec.

[@vampiricpanda666]

I sent my dad the Brexit clip. This was his reply "And maybe if the government had implemented it the way it should have done and not tried to reverse what the people really wanted it could’ve been a great success but hay ho that’s the establishment for you". Brexit lovers will never admit that it was a bad idea 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@vampiricpanda666]

@JasononsaJ tell me the good then. Educate me Mr know it all.

[@sciencefliestothemoon2305]

​@JasononsaJwhat are the good things again? The loss in economic growth? The continuous loss of capital or the massive problems companies habe with exports and imports? Or the believe that the UK now is still a great power?

[@sciencefliestothemoon2305]

@JasononsaJ the UK listens to the UK, aka regulations. So where are your benefits, you have listed only impossible possibilities. The world is a small place. China, the US, the EU, those are the markets, then you get India, and they love a good deal with the UK. Perhaps you should start understanding that the times of gunpowder diplomacy are over and countries look out for their own, and the UK is not a big country nor a great power anymore. The UK created EU legislation and you have not avoided barely any, otherwise your economy would really tank on exports

[@s.r.maccoll3725]

So in this instance "make" just means possession. It's a term used when knowledge and control can't be proved (meaning they've been recovered from a now deleted source). This is a standard sentence, it's generally 12 to 18 months for a first time offense, sentences under 24 months can be suspended for up to 24 months. They normally include a fine or community service, but in this place they've been went for mandate medical session. Pleading guilty at an early stage gets you up to 1/3 off your sentence, and his mental health gives extra off. I work in digital forensics, so i deal with this almost daily.

[@KevinHorrox]

I finish my degree in digital forensics soon. The stories I've heard, the cases I've had to research. It's very sickening, and it genuinely surprised me how often it actually takes place. It's a genuine blight in our society that doesn't get any coverage.

[@GoldnDusty]

"Bing bong" very good

[@Fefflefeff]

Is this a green screen or a real bookcase, I literally can't focus on the pod because I'm too distracted mulling it over.

[@blueboywill]

It's the same black curtain there always has been

[@adampeckham8541]

Why are they belittling Fathers 4 Justice? 😳

[@ribenademon]

Because while equal access to visitation/custody, fighting for good fathers and their rights in unfair situations and whatever is fine -Fathers 4 Justice have a history of being deeply, deeply cringe, and *some* of their (maybe more visible) members are/have been absolute bell-ends.

[@whitecouncil]

Their members are typically anti-feminist, reactionary, and engaging in obfuscatory politics.

[@samsamtherising]

Love your hair Ed!

[@AndrewMcColl]

I've just spent a week in Australia and their beer is served in two glass sizes - pint and schooner (about 3/4 of a pint, or 425ml). It's kinda weird coming from NZ where you mostly get a pint, and smaller glass are limited to accompanying jugs or beer towers.

[@AnalogFilmDiary]

Missed a chance to open with “love podcasts hate Huw Edwards”

[@Rella19]

I like Ed’s hair cut too 👍

[@tomullathorne2704]

Really Edward - Scottish Nationalist Party? The cutesy mock ignorance style of PolJoe hits the mark sometimes but you as someone who would be proud of knowing something about Scottish politics should know what the SNP is an abbreviation for! To use 'Nationalist' is to favour a particular narrative 🙄

[@matthewevans107]

Not a coincidence that the majorly negative media focus on the SNP coincided with the gender reform bill

[@alastairmcintyre4752]

Given the polls of the past few days showing the rise in support for Independence and Labour's crash in popularity in Scotland " Is Scottish Independence dead ? " seems a rather strange question 🤷‍♂

[@alastairorr6318]

Just remind us traitor, who lost 39 MP's in the July election? Labour will dominate British and Scottish politics for the next 150+ years. ❤

[@NuriVii]

@@alastairorr6318 lol it's always a rangers fan

[@alastairorr6318]

​​@@NuriVii"Simply the best". At least Rangers have a 152+ year history, unlike the fenian paedos, Celtic who have a 30 year failed history. They should be kicked out of Scottish football and sent back to their wee amateur part time Irish football league. They have won ZERO legitimately recognised league titles, cups of kind. 😂🤣😂🤣

[@bernieburrows3731]

​@@alastairorr6318 who's a traitor? The SNP and the independence movement, are not the same thing.

[@alastairorr6318]

​​@@bernieburrows3731Stop bring so delusional. They are. The SNP as a political force in Scotland are as dead as a 🦤. The independence movement is DEAD.

[@nomoreheroes93]

Real question is why Major didn’t say anything before

[@nathanaelsmith3553]

He must have been bottling it up for a long time - he sounded like he really wanted to punch somebody.

[@Sam88-l4k]

John Major has been against the idea of brexit from the start. He has done many interviews about this over the last 8-9 years

[@beckenhamboy1995]

Ed cosplaying as a man who's about to order a spicy margarita at Soho House

[@rainblaze.]

Let's just leave it as cos playing as a man and have done with it

[@beckenhamboy1995]

Christ... absolutely savage

[@hashburystumble8808]

In the years following the Scottish Independence Referendum & Ruth Davidson standing down following the EU Referendum to take a place in the House of Lords, she mentioned "independence" more often in Holyrood than the collective members of the SNP. Brexit was a material change in circumstances & the majorities achieved by the SNP & the requests for a Section 30 being refused only show that both Tories & Labour do not recognize democracy.

[@ErickPalmer-m8l]

Just a glimpse of Ed's cute face and laughter cured my acne. I could only describe his face as angelical.

[@takenoprisoners-u3x]

The English said India would never be free of them oh and Canada USA Ireland South Africa Rhodesia and Palestine. It never seems to go their way.

[@rainblaze.]

IKR.. It's like what they say goes untill they leave flipping the bird in their wake 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😁😁

[@Ab.Stat.]

Scots pretending to be colonised 🫵😂

[@takenoprisoners-u3x]

@@rainblaze. They didnt leave they were kicked out with their tails between their legs.

[@suburbanyobbo9412]

@@takenoprisoners-u3x >”The English said India would never be free” No they didn’t.

[@takenoprisoners-u3x]

@@suburbanyobbo9412 YES THEY DID LIAR..

[@badgersgetabadname]

Is it because Ed prays to Slanesh?

[@glennewton7034]

We live in a democracy, and we voted no to independence, so how is it democratic to keep trying for independence until it is achieved? If we do get independence, there won't be any referendum to see if we want to rejoin the UK.

[@haydentoohey1482]

Two thirds of a pint is a schooner which is still an imperial measurement

[@stephenhunterbrooks]

I honestly really like Ed, he's a funny guy and I tend agree with him 99% of the time. But how anyone can be surprised the Rangers supporting rugby fan who went to Hutcheson Grammar, works in London based political media and often critcisies the SNP can be anything but a Unionist is nuts to me. Obviously stereotypes aren't always a fair assessment but in this case it just seemed accurate.

[@robertmccann9631]

I could not believe (until i checked) that John Major legalised anal sex between heterosexual couples with the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994. Amazing bit of trivia thanks Ava.

[@EamonCoyle]

I reckon VAR would be on your side with that one Ava !!

[@modiddley845]

Do do doo, PolJoe in a library

[@WakeupAndsmelltherosemarys]

People in Scotland were deluded enough to vote labour to get the tories out. Continuity austerity under Starmer. Lots of buyer’s remorse now

[@ricesnot]

John Major is still alive!?

[@JoshMellor]

Loved that censor beep

[@henryhooper6638]

The UK GE actually isn’t about independence so why would it be considered a priority?

[@RyanJ_]

What is being censored?

[@Jaaj2009]

I assume journalists tackling tricky topics like child pornography need to notify someone of their activity? I remember during my masters we had to notify the security services as we would be researching extremist/terrorist websites.

[@Ballbagsaggins]

"I don't think the assumption would be, 'Ed's watching porn at work'" - Ed Campbell This shouldn't take long.😉🤣

[@Pobotrol]

Ed will be full mullet by Christmas.

[@diabl2master]

I'm nearly as stupid as I am curious. What did they bleep that Ed said?

[@adodgygeeza]

Re: Huw Edwards have you all gone all gammon. What purpose would sending him to jail serve and how would it stop reoffending.

[@TheLucanicLord]

How is 2/3 of a pint not an imperial measurement?

[@whisperingleaves]

House Jockey has a great mullet!

[@tones7mca]

Why do they clap themselves? Its bizzare.

[@WakeupAndsmelltherosemarys]

What age was Ed in 2014 ? About 5 ??

[@fredatlas4396]

Cuts in funding for our public services is the normal strategy for the tories, nothing to do with brexshit. And the tories always manage to deliver tax cuts for big corporate businesses and the wealthy and higher payed at the expense to the rest of us. The less well off end up paying more tax under tories

[@suburbanyobbo9412]

@@fredatlas4396 brexit has delivered more wage growth than inflation. The remain campaign was funder by foreign investment banks.

[@fredatlas4396]

@@suburbanyobbo9412 That's is ridiculous, average wages here in the UK from 2010 up until 2019 went down by minus 2.5% for the whole period . And since 2021 with the surging out of control inflation levels, most people's wages haven't kept up anywhere near inflation levels. In April 2022 RPI inflation rate in the UK was 8%, in April 2023 RPI rate was 13%, and April 2024 5%. I got a 3% pay increase in 2022, a 5% increase in 2023, and another 5% increase in 2024. And energy price increases since 2021 have been way above those RPI rates. Plus from 1997 up until 2010 under the last Labour government average wages again in real terms adjusted for inflation went up by 25.7% for the whole period. Those are facts not just my opion. And the last Labour government increased funding for the NHS to to it's highest levels adjusted for inflation in well over 40 yrs or more. And the result was waiting times falling a lot right up until 2010. Well the tories have done the exact opposite to Labour since 2010. And NHS waiting times since 2010 have been going up a lot, more recently going thru the roof. Our roads literally falling apart everywhere, schools and hospitals falling apart, 600 police stations shut down since 2010, 20000 less police officers, crime rates going up since 2010, poverty, inequality and homelessness rising at an alarming rate since 2010. Our economy going nowhere since 2010 and now in a recession, local councils going bankrupt or on the verge, Health and safety executive unable to do their job properly more accidents on farms etc. No resources to process asylum claims, hence some asylum seekers being put in hotels at our expense waiting to be processed. Unable to deport failed asylum seekers because doris johnson didn't renew the Dublin Agreement with the EU, which allowed us to deport failed asylum seekers. Immigration going up since 2010 and now higher than ever before. Billions of pounds in lost GDP, lost growth thanks to leaving the EU. The national debt a lot higher now than it was in 2010. These are just some of the legacy of our previous tory government since 2010

[@suburbanyobbo9412]

@@fredatlas4396 No. Brexit has driven real wage growth. Real wages have declined overall due to high oil and gas prices that have affected the UK worse than most countries because the UK has a high domestic gas consumption per capita.

[@fredatlas4396]

@@suburbanyobbo9412 No it hasn't, I've given you the facts average wages were already going down since about 2009. Down overall by minus 2.5% by 2019 and since 2019 they've gone down a lot more. What don't you understand, if inflation at 8% and people's wages up by only 3% that's a 5% wage cut in real terms, if inflation is at 13% and people's wages increase by just 5%, that's an 8% wage cut in real terms. And you've forgotten all the damage brexit has done to our economic growth, it's lost us billions in economic growth and still causing a lot of problems for UK businesses

[@suburbanyobbo9412]

@@fredatlas4396 No. read what I have argued. Real wages have gone down because of the effect of high oil and gas prices. The effect of Brexit however was to drive real wages up. Do you understand what aggregate means in economics?

[@benadams6019]

Day 56 of asking for a production team microphone.

[@henryhooper6638]

Almost total diminishment??? … 3% less that Labour in a UK election…. Come on

[@nightthrasher24]

I think they were talking about seat share

[@raylder6339]

Hey man, enjoy mullets while enough people are adopting it to make it considered fashionable.

[@henryhooper6638]

Public services in Scotland are significantly better than in England!!!

[@graemefindlater5234]

It's far from dead. Its still 50/50 and still steadily growing. Just needs a new conduit SNP are hopeless just now without leadership. An out of touch take. More wishful thinking tbh. Good news is, Labour already showing how bad it really is..

[@budapestkeletistationvoices]

Scottish independence has always been dead. You can't think it seriously that England will let Scotland go

[@rainblaze.]

Ed likes being in his own head waay to much To be fair with all his school girl giggling he does it must be fun... Airy with a lot of space to streach and lie down.an all that.... I guess 🙄😒

[@garethwilliams2483]

I think the suspended sentence is due to the prison crisis, and the fact in the WhatsApp corrospondence he does ask for "nothing illegal". Do I think it is good/right desicion, or that Edwards looked at those photos and couldn't tell the photos were of minors? No. However, I think Ava's reaction is worth examining in regards to the politics of the justice system, prisons and rehabilation. If Labour had intervened for a harsh sentence, would it be considered government overreach or justified. Should politicians be trusted to intervene when they can be influenced by donors, media, and public opinion.

[@KevinHorrox]

Politicians should not intervene in judicial proceedings. Now matter how serious the alleged crime. The judiciary must remain independent from politics and from the police for more than just Government overreach. Not only because politicians don't actually know the law in most cases, or have access to any evidence or facts. But because maintaining this separation aids in keeping trust in the process (though trust has been dwindling, partly due to perceived favouritism), protection of the law and of human rights. All of which would be completely undermined if politics got involved.

[@DubStudioCreateVinyl]

I seem to remember nobody really engaging in EU politics unless they were against the EU, hence why we ended up with Farage and so many other UKIP MEPs.

[@suburbanyobbo9412]

@@DubStudioCreateVinyl It is almost like leaving the EU was beneficial to many people in the UK, so they engaged in politics to bring about change.

[@DubStudioCreateVinyl]

They squandered the opportunity they were given by the British people to get the best deal for us, and in the end we paid the ultimate price. But my point is that as a nation, we allowed those bad-faith actors to sabotage the EU project from within. Not because we agreed with their position, but because we simply didn’t engage in EU politics enough.

[@suburbanyobbo9412]

@@DubStudioCreateVinyl The EU was never sabotaged. Brexit has driven more wage growth than inflation. This is the central issue of Brexit. In no uncertain terms most people are better off due to Brexit. Remains and their foreign investment bank backers, were defeated, thank goodness.

[@bweb6]

You mean you think Huw got a light sentence because he's rich, white and represents part of the establishment in this country. 🤨

[@ftumschk]

The 20-something man who sent him the porn, and possessed more - and worse - material of his own, didn't get a custodial sentence either, and he's a working-class nobody.

[@lindsaybruce1396]

When was the last time Ed was in Scotland, because everything he says about independence sounds like he's reading from the Daily Express. His reference to "Scottish Nationalist Party" betrays his complete ignorance. "Radical eco communists" I just find offensive, and his vacuous lack of awareness of events and issues in Scotland strongly suggest he hasn't been here at all in the ten years since the referendum. While Ava's contributions are somewhat better, this entire exchange sounded like two London-centric 14 year olds discussing something they have absolutely no first hand knowledge of.

[@allthingstravel8404]

Dont think thays true .. dont they sell pint cans of lager ?.

[@veganbarnsley15]

Mullet

[@katejackson7432]

oh mad, im never thought id whoop major i gotta go wash the shame off lol

[@EamonCoyle]

Can you still hang about outside the clinics trying to find liberally minded women for a date ?

[@CactusClay99]

What a mental story , never heard a more mental story than that 19:44

[@bobbysbits2575]

Wow Spitting Image was really portentous. John Major looks like a puppet now 😮

[@neilbarton6061]

Don’t think your view from afar helps your reputation. Why did you think you had to bother?

[@coldblowcode]

Is Ed a dwarf? or is this just how it looks in this episode?

[@octaviamcdougall7170]

indy isnt dead just the snp, ma cxxts aint accepting a neoliberal future for scotland anymore

[@barneyquimble1328]

scotnats having a normal one in the comments, more news at 10

[@iamNATFAN]

wait is it ava-santina or ava santina? i always thought it was the latter lol

[@nathanaelsmith3553]

It's: Ava Nice Hice

[@lil_winky8372]

Pre-listen comment, I think ed is probably fine with abortion

[@GerinoMorn]

Some say he even enjoys it.

[@takenoprisoners-u3x]

​ @suburbanyobbo9412 Britain has been an ENGLISH COLONY since 1706. The English colonialists were forced out of India by Ghandi they imprisoned him several times for instigating the campaign that finally drove them out. But you know all this its all part of HISTORICAL FACT. Why are you stupidly lying? Are you a troll?

[@nautilusshell4969]

Not sure what to make of this conversation.....don't understand what the European Parliament in particular has to do with it. Sounds like Ava doesn't understand either. Stopped listening around 18 minutes in.

[@johnknowles4131]

Not going to lie I do find it a bit hypocritical when people such as Ava who often talks about inequality in society takes the opportunity to take the mick out of fathers for justice on multiple podcasts. They’re not some far right group just men who are fighting for equal rights when it comes to access to their children. Until you’ve had a vindictive ex stop you from seeing your child for many months you can’t imagine how painful that is. If it was a woman’s group that was fighting for an equality issue she’d have a completely different attitude. She can be very hypocritical

[@WakeupAndsmelltherosemarys]

Fk two thirds of a pint 😮

[@jonathanrhill78]

these two waffle on far too much.

[@hughcaskey9542]

P

[@LimeyRedneck]

🍋‍🟩🤠

[@kieranclarges2514]

Is it just me... Or, has anyone else noticed Eds head looks huge in this position? It looks like the equivalent of an adult head on a childs body.

[@henryhooper6638]

You guys are losing your credibility , seriously… what ignorance

[@danielboard9510]

John Major was a prime minister. Enough to be said about that.

[@chrisc990]

Can I get a job just saying whatever??

[@calumgray]

I cant see Scotland voting for independence while the UK is out of the EU. The headache of the border between Scotland, England, and Northern Ireland would swing too many undecided voters towards no. Even if the UK somehow rejoined the EU, it would take a long time before people would be willing to risk another seperation. In my opinion, some sort of devo max or federal system is the best Scotland can hope for, certainly in my lifetime.

[@hashburystumble8808]

What border headache ?

[@YouHaveNoKnowledge]

46:40 This is a red herring There still needs to be a justification for baring prayer within the 150 metre zones. Praying silently near a clinic might be unnecessary and pointless, but the debate is about is it reasonable for the law to bar people from doing so, and the arguments against the restriction still stand. Stop the hypocrisy by claiming it’s “disingenuous” to point this out. It doesn’t matter where they pray. It’s about whether or not it’s reasonable to bar it around abortion clinics, actually address the concern and stop projecting

[@alastairorr6318]

Scottish independence died 1 million years ago.

[@hashburystumble8808]

Aye ! You would know 😂

[@alastairorr6318]

​@hashburystumble8808 I am very proud to be Glaswegian, Scottish, British and European.

[@hashburystumble8808]

@@alastairorr6318 Shame you are no longer a European & as for the British part, that's not going so well now is it ?

[@alastairorr6318]

​@@hashburystumble8808Keir Starmer and Labour will return Britain to its rightful place, the EU 🇪🇺 very soon, so being British is great. I am a NEVER NEVER NEVER Scottish nationalist. ❤

[@hashburystumble8808]

@@alastairorr6318 Starmer will not return the UK to either the Customs Union or the Single Market. We don't expect the narrow minded & generally bigoted Rangers supporters to back Scottish independence as they would prefer anything wrapped in the butcher's apron such as the despicable Orange Order & the DUP.

[@Alexander-yb1zc]

All the arguments about a 2nd Scottish Independence Referendum are the same arguments being used for a 2nd Brexit referendum, even down to Ed saying that with the amount of No voters that have died if held today young people would vote Yes. If we keep revisting referendums then what value do they hold ? We will end up in a cycle of holding a referendum every number of years until the party in charge gets the vote it wants whether that's independence, the alternative vote or EU membership.

[@alastairmcintyre4752]

So would you say that both Brexit and Scotland still being tethered to a failing UK ( and despite the promises made in 2014 being dragged out of the EU ) have both been a resounding success ? Democracy is not ( and never has been ) a static entity - otherwise we wouldn't bother with Elections - circumstances change

[@Alexander-yb1zc]

It doesn't matter if they have been successful or not. On the day a majority of the population made a decision, if we undermine that by holding for example a 2nd EU referendum what's to say in 10 years we have a 3rd ? The purpose of a referendum is to settle a debate through a democratic vote we had that, it's time to move forwards and make the best of the situation we are in.

[@alastairmcintyre4752]

@@Alexander-yb1zc That's nonsense - but good luck making the best of it

[@kennedy0tm]

By that logic the UK being part of the EU was decided by referendum back in 1975 and the 2016 vote shouldn't have taken place.

[@Alexander-yb1zc]

@@kennedy0tm exactly

[@johncassels-y7f]

What Independance 😂😂😂😂 There's not Independance in Scotland and wont Ever Be 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@veganbarnsley15]

🤡

[@CRingsing]

“Ever” is a long time, and it doesn’t take much of a political mishap to allow another indy ref. So if the Scot continue to demand an indy ref, it will inevitably happen at some point. SNP tho with all their shenanigans most certainly have reduced the probability on short term.

[@dougcop7253]

Tick TOCK Not if but when

[@takenoprisoners-u3x]

Oh well if you say so. God has spoken folks its game over.