JOHN McLAUGHLIN vs ALLAN HOLDSWORTH | with The Super-i-ometer

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Andy Edwards

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@timothydillow3160
@timothydillow3160 11 ай бұрын
"I would steal what he's doing, if I could figure out what he's doing." (John McLaughlin speaking about Allan Holdsworth)
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 11 ай бұрын
And the McLaughlin complained about Jimmy Page not paying for lessons...lol Karma.
@jamespealing3518
@jamespealing3518 11 ай бұрын
Who the hell's John Mc Clothlin?
@PointOfNoReturn2112
@PointOfNoReturn2112 9 ай бұрын
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Storiesnot the first time Zeppelin ripped someone off
@Ken-wq6oc
@Ken-wq6oc 11 ай бұрын
Holdsworth was from another planet. Incredible player.
@IndySnowman
@IndySnowman 11 ай бұрын
It’s amazing that 3 of the greatest guitarists of all time, Holdsworth, McLaughlin, and Bill Nelson, are all from Yorkshire.
@erikheddergott5514
@erikheddergott5514 11 ай бұрын
I think the only one of this three is in the same League as Richard Thompson is John McLaughlin.
@armandom28
@armandom28 11 ай бұрын
@@erikheddergott5514Thompson is a beginner compared to them
@erikheddergott5514
@erikheddergott5514 11 ай бұрын
@@armandom28 Thompson not only loves the Sound of the Guitar, opposite to Allan who wants to sound like Jan Hammer synthesizing a Mix of Violin, Organ and C Melody Sax. Many Electric Jazz Guitarplayers do cater to the Resentments of Jazzfreaks who consider the Guitar the Devil‘s Toy and do everything to please those „Jazzers“ by trying hard not to sound like Guitarplayers. You can’t blame John McLaughlin for doing so. He is a Guitar Loving Guitarplayer, as is Richard Thompson. Who has a real „Guitar Sound“. And can write not only Tunes but Songs.
@richardsinger01
@richardsinger01 4 ай бұрын
Recently I have been on a massive Be Bop Deluxe kick. Some great stuff there that mostly passed me by when they were released.
@DannyG-cv8so
@DannyG-cv8so 2 ай бұрын
You beat me to it. I only found out they were both Yorkshire lads today 😂
@CasperLCat
@CasperLCat 6 ай бұрын
When Andy starts each video, shouting at me in what I take to be a Midlands Brit accent, I instantly experience a great inner relaxation.
@naderzekrya5238
@naderzekrya5238 11 ай бұрын
Tony Williams, Alphonso Johnson, Jack Bruce, Michael Walden, Jean Luc Ponty, Billy Cobham, Wayne Shorter, Ralph Armstrong, Stanley Clarke, Vinnie Coliaiuta and Gary Husband have all played with both JM + AH
@LCD72
@LCD72 6 күн бұрын
More than any other guitarist John McLaughlin gives the impression of making his inner world manifest with his guitar playing: a visionary, all-consuming, fiery, passionate, transcendent, ardent, spiritual yearning.
@brydonyeoman1438
@brydonyeoman1438 11 ай бұрын
Love these episodes. The Super-i-ometer has to stay!
@flame-sky7148
@flame-sky7148 11 ай бұрын
What is very interesting about those two is the influence of Coltrane that both had within their music. As far as technical prowess, Holdsworth , but spirituality within his music, Mclaughlin. Wait a minute, Tony Williams played with both of those guys also. You know that.
@Fontsman-14
@Fontsman-14 11 ай бұрын
The speed picker v the legato monster. Each one really admired the other.
@timothydillow3160
@timothydillow3160 11 ай бұрын
"Greatness is compatible, not comparable." td
@Darrylizer1
@Darrylizer1 11 ай бұрын
This is going to be epic. I hope the Super-i-ometer's cooling system holds out.
@meanmud1
@meanmud1 11 ай бұрын
AH - All day, all night long. Why are people so obsessed with picking vs. legato (hammers/pull-offs)? It comes down to the "music" - the harmony/melody/rhythm!
@fcamiola
@fcamiola 11 ай бұрын
No contest....I get tired of McLaughlin after about 17 seconds. Holdsworth reigns supreme!
@meanmud1
@meanmud1 11 ай бұрын
Yes, there's a certain fatigue that sets in quickly.
@DannyG-cv8so
@DannyG-cv8so 2 ай бұрын
Holdsworth was definitely more tasteful, but John was more “out there”. It just depends on what you prefer
@rickmilam413
@rickmilam413 11 ай бұрын
I'm definitely a Holdsworth guy (and 4.5 5o 5.5 isn't half a point). Love his playing, Allan loved my late little brother's playing and was very kind to him during his illness and in asking that Brian's band open for him when he played here. Both great, of course.
@Gregorypeckory
@Gregorypeckory 11 ай бұрын
Hilarious and entertaining tribute to two masters! 🤣😆🤣👏👏👏
@williamking7420
@williamking7420 11 ай бұрын
I agree with the Super-i-ometer...except I would have given Holdsworth an extra 5 points just for being Allan Holdsworth! 😂😂
@IamUncledeuce
@IamUncledeuce 11 ай бұрын
Holdsworth would actually have a beer with people after the show... depending on the venue. Had a couple at the Birchmere with Allan and several other folks. Regular dude.
@jjdubois6101
@jjdubois6101 11 ай бұрын
Secrets by Holdsworth is mega, if Endomorph doesn’t move you then there’s something wrong 🤣
@jackpittens796
@jackpittens796 11 ай бұрын
Love them both. Hard to pick one over the other. I very much agree that any album the Allan is on with a band brings the band to a new level. Bundles is so epic, but so is Birds of Fire.
@skidmarkjohnson8452
@skidmarkjohnson8452 11 ай бұрын
I've seem both of them dozens of times in concert and their ability to shred is awesome. For me however, when it comes to playing a very slow soul tugging melody, Holdsworth can bring me to tears.
@syn707
@syn707 11 ай бұрын
Careful Andy…this may tax and overload the SupriorOmeter. Be ready to pull the plug before the flames consume it!
@kevincorrigan7893
@kevincorrigan7893 11 ай бұрын
ABSOLUTELY keep using the Superiometer. It might be the only thing keeping us all sane at this point.
@davidrobbins4857
@davidrobbins4857 11 ай бұрын
hahahahaaaa Love the intro Andy, great show, you are a madman. Keep up the good work.
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@alexmanne
@alexmanne 11 ай бұрын
First time I heard Holdsworth my mind was blown and my jaw was on the floor. I had never heard anyone play like that. I love his music too. I can't say the same about McLaughlin but I'll never discount his playing and ability. The guy played with Miles Davis! I still really like Mahavishnu Orchestra.
@pauldove966
@pauldove966 11 ай бұрын
JM's tone on his post-Mahavishnu album 'Electric Guitarist' also deserves a shout out and is perhaps my favourite. Not so in-your-face as Mahavishnu, more brooding and soulful, but it's got this amazing concentration and power (eg the track 'Every Tear from Every Eye' or 'New York on My Mind').
@freespiritsguitar2871
@freespiritsguitar2871 11 ай бұрын
You speak from my soul, these pieces from the period are among John's favorites for me, though of course there are many other great periods with John.
@robertvavra414
@robertvavra414 11 ай бұрын
Yes! Wonderful album. It's a good place for new listeners to start, because it offers a wide variety of musical styles.
@donaldanderson6604
@donaldanderson6604 11 ай бұрын
EG is such a great album.
@CVGuitar
@CVGuitar 11 ай бұрын
The Super-i-ometer doesn't lie -- Holdsworth rules and always has -- great fun video Andy!
@aindriubradleymarshall6226
@aindriubradleymarshall6226 11 ай бұрын
The album behind you is monumental. JM all the way.....
@timothydillow3160
@timothydillow3160 11 ай бұрын
What need have I for this what need have I for that I am dancing at the feet of my Lord all is bliss all is bliss
@pauldove966
@pauldove966 11 ай бұрын
@@timothydillow3160 Love the soulful bluesy solo that introduces "What need have I for this...". It's one of my fave JM solos.
@stevenmonroe8652
@stevenmonroe8652 11 ай бұрын
I mean, John McLaughlin is an absolute legend. I've seen the guy on at least a half-dozen different occasions, and in different contexts. But compared to Holdsworth ... It's like a candle compared to the sun.
@herculesrockefeller8969
@herculesrockefeller8969 11 ай бұрын
The other night I couldn't sleep, so I put on Holdsworth album - Wardenclyffe Tower. I fell asleep right away.
@carlharvey6461
@carlharvey6461 11 ай бұрын
I liked your attempt at a comparison between these two guitar titans. You did a very credible job of comparing them and also of making it entertaining. I have to respectfully say, though, that I think you went about the comparison in a bit of a flawed way. I'll grant you that they're best known for their massive contributions to fusion; however, McLaughlin is a lot more versatile. Specifically, McLaughlin is equally adept and important for his acoustic playing as he is for his electric work. Holdsworth simply is not. There isn't nearly as much acoustic playing from Holdsworth and what there is of it is not as masterful. In addition, McLaughlin was a pioneer in what would become known as World Music--in terms of influence with the Mahavishnu Orchestra and then all-out with Shakti. He also showed that he had no difficulty playing in a classical idiom with his guitar concerto, which had been commisioned. In other words, Holdsworth's playing within the Holdsworthian style was mind-blowing, but he was not as stylistically accomplished as McLaughlin.
@jayrobb9
@jayrobb9 11 ай бұрын
In all fairness though, they were graded on several criteria, versatility was one of them, and McLaughlin took the point.
@richardsinger01
@richardsinger01 4 ай бұрын
I think Andy acknowleged this.
@johannhauffman323
@johannhauffman323 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for all you do Andy.
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 11 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@Oenloveslife
@Oenloveslife 2 ай бұрын
I have to give #4 -- Composing -- to Allan Holdsworth. There is such depth there, such breadth, such stunning beauty, such multi-layered harmonic brilliance and melodic wizardry and rhythmic exploration. I LOVE JM! I used to blast "Dawn" in 10th grade over and over -- those wild wide ascending chords! It's close, but the more I learn music (now age 62), the more I appreciate Allan's place as an utterly unique painter of sound.
@randolfarriola
@randolfarriola 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Andy and best wishes always. This episode brought out a big a smile for me. What a load of fun but personally Allan Holdsworth wins!
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@stevemccausland264
@stevemccausland264 11 ай бұрын
Per Chat GTP: Both John McLaughlin and Allan Holdsworth are highly respected and influential guitarists, but they have different styles and musical contributions, making it challenging to definitively say who is "better." Their guitar-playing styles cater to different preferences and genres: - **John McLaughlin** is known for his pioneering work in jazz fusion and his role in bands like the Mahavishnu Orchestra. His playing is characterized by intricate, fast-paced, and often highly technical guitar work. He's considered a virtuoso in the fusion and jazz genres and has made significant contributions to the development of fusion music. - **Allan Holdsworth**, on the other hand, was known for his unique approach to the guitar, often described as legato playing. He was a master of harmonies and had a distinctive sound in the realms of progressive rock and fusion. Holdsworth's work was highly innovative and influential in the world of guitar playing. The question of who is "better" between these two guitarists largely depends on personal musical tastes and preferences. Some may prefer the technical brilliance and energy of John McLaughlin's fusion style, while others may appreciate Allan Holdsworth's innovative and unique approach to the instrument. Both are considered guitar legends in their respective genres, and their contributions have had a lasting impact on the world of music. Good summary Andy?
@narosgmbh5916
@narosgmbh5916 11 ай бұрын
5,5 : 5
@drj602
@drj602 11 ай бұрын
I got to see the One Truth Band at a great venue, the State St. Theatre in Santa Barbara California. I think it was 78 ?
@stevemacarthur9660
@stevemacarthur9660 11 ай бұрын
Captain Andy - I think the Super-i-ometer is an awesome concept - even when one's expectations are confounded in the process - that's what makes it fun to watch. And, there are endless possibilities for "conflict" - this is definitely your "thing"!
@Oenloveslife
@Oenloveslife 2 ай бұрын
#9 -- Great to Crap ration -- You got it!! Holdsworth is pure magic! He always raise the level of any band he plays with, and every one of his solo records (including Flat Tire) is a masterpiece, as you've said!
@philt4346
@philt4346 11 ай бұрын
Secret Super-i-ometer eh? I think we should be told the Abba v King Crimson result ;)
@freespiritsguitar2871
@freespiritsguitar2871 11 ай бұрын
Great and very interesting video. One thing that many may not think is so important is that John's playing contains more dynamics, which is also easier with the plectrum than if you play as much legato as Allan. Also, there are often melodies in John's compositions that are easier to remember. I'm just thinking of Lotus Feet, Meeting of the Spirits etc. I sometimes miss that with Allan, though I guess he has a different approach there too. To the point you bring it up for me with the John Coltrane influence which is very deep and in different ways with both guitarists. With the tone I'm split opinion with Allan, he is great very cosmic and ingenious but also always similar and the last sensitivity is missing something for me. Jerry Garcia is technically not as good, but he sometimes plays very sensitive, soulful and subtle, for example in quiet jam passages, which touches me very much and I miss again with Allan. John sometimes has the sensitive, but different. But I think both play on an unreached planet.
@JackJenningsGuitarist
@JackJenningsGuitarist 11 ай бұрын
Good thoughts. Thanks for sharing 👍
@spookysocks5914
@spookysocks5914 11 ай бұрын
Funny! I love them both.
@nickfryearson1531
@nickfryearson1531 11 ай бұрын
The next super i ometer has to be Jimi Hendrix v Jeff Beck. Come on Andy... make it happen!
@timothydillow3160
@timothydillow3160 11 ай бұрын
Frank Zappa really admired McLaughlin and Holdsworth.
@tomhenninger4153
@tomhenninger4153 Ай бұрын
Damn you are too funny! We all know art is hard to quantify. Thx for the enteraintment! FUN! haha!
@coyotegrove9206
@coyotegrove9206 11 ай бұрын
The videos you see (when you haven’t got your gun) 👍
@shirleymental4189
@shirleymental4189 11 ай бұрын
I would say JM has been very influential but the Legato style is the one that you hear the most, to this day. As for composition, I'd say JM by a mile. From Mahavishnu mark1 to Apocalypse, to Shakti, to the European Jazz of The Translators, then writing for the organ trio to the Jazz Prog of The Heart of things (missed loads out). With AH mostly it's plucked chord melody then the blowing then back to the melody. Not always maybe, but a hell of a lot.
@niknotez
@niknotez 7 ай бұрын
This video is hilarious to me. Love them both and find it difficult to say who’s better.Keep the rickety ol super -I -o meter LOLits a great gadget.Awesome video and thanks.
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 7 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@stevo5584
@stevo5584 11 ай бұрын
Love them both, like Andy says, who heard first, where you were in your life, 'deep' music discussions with your mates...it all factors in. Mclaughlin for me....just
@Fender73472
@Fender73472 11 ай бұрын
I’m going to see John next week he is in USA touring with Shakti 😊
@timothydillow3160
@timothydillow3160 11 ай бұрын
Are you serious? Got to go got to go, a handful of beauty, natural elements, some of my most treasured and beloved albums "mind ecology" still my favorite Shakti tune.
@sabe11a39
@sabe11a39 11 ай бұрын
More Superiometer! I've gone mad with the power of objectivity!
@georgesdelatour
@georgesdelatour 11 ай бұрын
Two amazing guitarists, both born in West Yorkshire, just up the road from each other, four years apart. Yet their styles are not just different from each other, but can seem like calibrated opposites: McLaughlin’s playing is generally modal, rhythmically specific, and often staccato, with an almost mandolin-like right hand. Holdsworth’s tends to be chromatic, with lots of rubato-like blurring of the pulse, and a near-infinite legato. McLaughlin’s playing is nimble, precise, “al dente”, while Holdsworth’s is cloudy, smudged, enigmatic, constantly in flux; it’s no surprise that McLaughlin’s solos are far easier to write down than Holdsworth’s. What do they have in common? Apart from the obvious jazz influences, both are influenced by 20th century classical music (If I had to pick a composer they both like, I’d guess Béla Bartók). Both like the violin; many of McLaughlin’s bands have included violinists, they both worked with Jean-Luc Ponty, and Holdsworth even played the violin a bit himself. Both have sought to extend the possibilities of the guitar with technology; McLaughlin early on used ring modulators and frequency shifters, and Holdsworth famously used the SynthAxe.
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 11 ай бұрын
Coltrane
@georgesdelatour
@georgesdelatour 11 ай бұрын
@@AndyEdwardsDrummer I guess they were inspired by different elements of Coltrane. There's the very modal "Africa Brass" and the very chromatic "Giant Steps"...
@jayrobb9
@jayrobb9 11 ай бұрын
For a long time I only really knew Holdsworth from (of all places) Chad Wackerman's solo albums. But his playing always lingered with me. Started getting deeply into guitar-based fusion about two years ago and really came to understand what a titan he truly is.
@johannhauffman323
@johannhauffman323 11 ай бұрын
I have a question. What’s up with the Neil Sedaka album?
@ronolds258
@ronolds258 4 ай бұрын
Hey Mate ... Appreciate what you've tryed to do here , but in all honesty l can't pick one over the other . Both guitarists contributions are Historically over the top & an advancement to the field of guitar playing , but so different than each other & for that l could never rate one above the other & nor did l ever think & feel that it was or is a competition between the 2 . Always just liked them both ... end of story !! ..........❤️🎸🎸❤️
@kgrant67
@kgrant67 11 ай бұрын
Given all the heavy use the superiometer is getting lately, you might consider using synthetic oil next time it needs a change
@snuppssynthchannel
@snuppssynthchannel 5 ай бұрын
My mind say Allan, my guts say McLaughlin. Both are my favourite guitarists.
@Oenloveslife
@Oenloveslife 2 ай бұрын
#6 Influence. Holdsworth's influence is now (and for many years now) exponentially GROWING!
@garygomesvedicastrology
@garygomesvedicastrology 11 ай бұрын
I love McLaughlin, but I was thunderstruck by Holdsworth.
@thebreathalyzer
@thebreathalyzer 11 ай бұрын
Wonderful video, thanks for sharing. This would be an easy one for me, I have pretty strong preferences. Nice ending.
@SwampEye1
@SwampEye1 11 ай бұрын
Andy, this was a great show, keep the f... superior o meter ,,, love your description of their solos ... on Live Evil and other stuff from Miles, John was at his best .... and Alan, when he played with other bands. They were both at their best, when they were challenged ... having their own band , both of them mellowed out ...
@timothydillow3160
@timothydillow3160 11 ай бұрын
I got a good show idea for Andy the strangest musical pairings for collaboration, like Johnny Cash and Nine Inch Nails.
@EastmanD
@EastmanD 11 ай бұрын
McLaughlin v. Holdsworth...ladies and gentlemen introducing the epitome of the concept of "splitting hairs" ! 🤣😂
@freespiritsguitar2871
@freespiritsguitar2871 11 ай бұрын
But both guitarrist play no Eastman Guitar🙂
@EastmanD
@EastmanD 11 ай бұрын
@@freespiritsguitar2871that's true, neither guitarist plays an Eastman guitar. 🤣
@freespiritsguitar2871
@freespiritsguitar2871 11 ай бұрын
But thats fantastic guitars@@EastmanD
@EastmanD
@EastmanD 11 ай бұрын
@@freespiritsguitar2871 ok !
@MrDingDong2
@MrDingDong2 11 ай бұрын
The automatic transcriptions make me laugh, with punchlines such as: "...McLaughlin sold lots of records with the marriage doctor..." "...I think well that came out of the marriage doctor Holdsworth..." "...most people who like holes..." "...I got that directly from Malvern Holdsworth I didn't get it from Messi..."
@daicullinane7746
@daicullinane7746 11 ай бұрын
"..John McLauglin with these baby sharks pretty much invents jazz fusion..."
@MrDingDong2
@MrDingDong2 11 ай бұрын
@@daicullinane7746 😄 Haha
@andrewwilson711
@andrewwilson711 11 ай бұрын
Another great video Andy
@daicullinane7746
@daicullinane7746 11 ай бұрын
Love the Super-i-ometer.
@hybrydsanity5857
@hybrydsanity5857 11 ай бұрын
My uncle played with Jean luc (Joaquin Lievano) for 4 albums after Allan, large shoes to fill , I like Holdsworth slightly better but thats just a preference i believe John was and is the Original when it comes to kicking off the whole movement ! and more diverse .
@thewestfaceofdhaulagiri6697
@thewestfaceofdhaulagiri6697 11 ай бұрын
I'm a big fan of Joaquin Lievano. I also remember his playing with Tom Coster. He still plays right but more acoustic? As for AH and JM? Hard choice but I have to give it to AH. In terms of originality AH is the ultimate pinnacle when it comes to originality.
@angusorvid8840
@angusorvid8840 6 ай бұрын
Both are equal. But very different. Holdsworth was a self-taught, totally unconventional player with a very unique view of the fretboard who did not read music. McLaughlin, on the other hand, was very influenced from the musical family in which he grew up and learned guitar in a much more traditional conservatory style manner. His ability to sight read helped him make a living as a session player in London from a very early age. His interest in Carnatic music and konnakol time signatures helped him develop one of the most instantly recognizable styles in the entire pantheon of great players, targeting semitones from the eastern scale with a very unusual vibrato. Holdsworth indeed has a stronger influence that resonates to this day through extreme players including those of the djent world like Pliney. Holdsworth was always very insecure about his inability to alternate pick and read music. I studied both alternate picking and legato. I use a fusion of both. I do neither as well as Holdsworth or McLaughlin. I remember when I was a small child, about four, watching Mahavishnu on American public television at my grandparents' house. The whole family was watching this concert, absolutely mesmerized. I knew even then there was something very unusual about this music, about this player with the double neck and his interplay with Jerry Goodman's electrified violine and the rest of the band. McLaughlin was the first guitarist to make an impression on me as a true master. Back in those days McLaughlin was almost a household name along with Mahavishnu Orchestra. Let's not forget his name in those days was Mahavishnu John McLaughlin. On the issue of tone, I think Holdsworth had it locked down. McLaughlin's current DI tone is nothing to write home about. It's very processed and it does not capture what is best in his playing. Holdsworth experimented with many pickups, up until his final years. Seymour Duncan makes a very hot pickup called th AH Metal Fatigue. Even for a guy like me who used to play int he L.A. metal scene, that pickup was always rediculouslu hot and I avoided it, opting for medium to vintage output. I don't know much about McLaughlin's tone journey, as he never endorsed any pickups to my knowledge. Holdsworth played everything from DiMarzio to Duncan to EMG to several custom builds with Kiesel and God knows what else. As for my own style and tone, it's more like a fusion of classic rock 70s tone and George Lynch, with a style more like Gary Moore meets Michael Schenker.
@JasonSositko
@JasonSositko 11 ай бұрын
A true clash of the titans.
@fredrikskar1718
@fredrikskar1718 7 ай бұрын
Hilarous!
@StoneyGround-zs8oh
@StoneyGround-zs8oh 11 ай бұрын
Comedic genius to boot 🙌🙌🙌👍
@JohnMilller
@JohnMilller 11 ай бұрын
Hey Andy, you should also first validate your super-i-ometer with some known test data. For instance, compare a Kiss album to a Deep Purple album. If its working properly, the super-i-ometer should show the Purple album orders of magnitude ahead of the Kiss one.
@Rick-jg8vx
@Rick-jg8vx 11 ай бұрын
Great video. I am huge fan of both artists but an absolute massive fan of Allan Holdsworth. So I agree with your final determination. I also agree with your point about 70s era Holdsworth appeals to More prog and fusion fans. That said, I eventually warmed up to his solo work, and almost became fanatical over it, but the stuff Holdsworth did with Tony Williams, UK gong it’s just phenomenal
@christianevans4449
@christianevans4449 11 ай бұрын
The Zappameter would have gone with Holdsworth.
@Tony-be4tl
@Tony-be4tl 11 ай бұрын
Keep using it!
@DannyG-cv8so
@DannyG-cv8so 2 ай бұрын
Alan Holdsworth and John McLaughlin are both Yorkshire lads. I never knew that, till today.
@rembeadgc
@rembeadgc 11 ай бұрын
Very funny ending! That's what happens when machines attempt to replace human beings, they ultimately get jacked, cause humans ultimately aren't objective and that's really an overwhelmingly good thing, even though sometimes it's a bad thing too. Personally, I agreed with the un-jacked Super-i-ometer, and your assessments plus Holdsworth has a very, very special place in my soul. Spend time with your family.
@syn707
@syn707 11 ай бұрын
The SuperiorOmeter May still be in the development stage. Since it favored Holdsworth, it’s obvious that serious tweaking is required. Perhaps Russian tubes? Great video Andy. We McLaughlin fanatics forgive you!.
@jasparellitaylor3228
@jasparellitaylor3228 10 ай бұрын
Great stuff, should there be a point awarded to how well they can stretch there playing outside...
@bradhardisty1652
@bradhardisty1652 11 ай бұрын
Bravo. You took on something I couldn't do..They are both important Landmarks in guitar. John McLaughlin amazes me how he has evolved and flourished within each compositional style. When I heard the earliest John M. it sounded a lot like Hendrix. That helped me to understand why he ended up with Miles Davis doing fusion at the exact time when that could have been Hendrix's chair. I think you're right when you talk about Holdsworth continually refining his compositional style and complexity. I think he really defined something uniquely his and next level. Ed Van Halen was rightly attracted to Holdsworth contributions to the guitar. As far as what Holdsworth was after, he did it. They are both great.
@deanjonasson6776
@deanjonasson6776 11 ай бұрын
Yes, please!
@Poppaneedsanap
@Poppaneedsanap 11 ай бұрын
Sounds like you've got a St. Anger snare next to the superiometer
@thomasrichmond2413
@thomasrichmond2413 11 ай бұрын
To me, it’s about the music. I’ve never heard McLaughlin play anything like what Holdsworth did on the Sahara of Snow off One of a Kind.
@gimmehendrix
@gimmehendrix 11 ай бұрын
We are extremely lucky then. You should check out east side west side and pacific express for some beautiful playing. And John wasn’t playing to anyone else’s compositions on those too.
@jamestejada3673
@jamestejada3673 11 ай бұрын
Both are good. Both are unique.
@chris_24189
@chris_24189 11 ай бұрын
Just curious, how many 16ths of an inch is .37 inches?
@postatomik
@postatomik 11 ай бұрын
This was fun to watch. I think you hit the nail on the head with the great to crap ratio. JM has done some stuff that I wouldn't really listen to, at least not more than once (although in his defense, he's put out more recordings than AH so he's more exposed in that regard). How about a Tony Williams versus Billy Cobham challenge? That would be a nail-biter, although I think I know who would win.
@jonathanmurrell5801
@jonathanmurrell5801 11 ай бұрын
Why does it always have to be a competition!
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 11 ай бұрын
because we are humans, not bees
@blackarrow9072
@blackarrow9072 11 ай бұрын
I have seen and heard them both. I love them both. Great players and innovators. A pity they never played together. Gary Husband tried to establish that, Allan declined.
@mononoaware1960
@mononoaware1960 11 ай бұрын
McLaughlin for me personally, way more diverse. He has such a wide range of sounds and capabilities. Then again, Allan basically invented his own sound. Probably the most original sounding guitarist to ever live.
@DannyG-cv8so
@DannyG-cv8so 2 ай бұрын
John was more “out there”, but Holdsworth was more tasteful. Just depends on ya personal taste.
@mononoaware1960
@mononoaware1960 2 ай бұрын
@@DannyG-cv8so very true, it is all personal taste. I’ve never heard Allan do anything like on In A Silent Way or My Goal’s Beyond though. With Allan I’m more mesmerized and blown away by his unique sounds and technique. John moves me more for sure.
@andrewwilson711
@andrewwilson711 11 ай бұрын
Battle of the Jazz rock fusion legends 😊
@bmuhamad
@bmuhamad 11 ай бұрын
And Larry Coryell?
@RogerWyatt365
@RogerWyatt365 11 ай бұрын
I will not rest until the Superiometer does Billy Cobham vs Narads Michael Walden
@Mirron
@Mirron 11 ай бұрын
Great video. Would you do something like a top-10 recorded drum sounds?
@jdmresearch
@jdmresearch 11 ай бұрын
I was surprised about the last dimension. I really thought you would go with JM there. Which would have changed the final result.
@johnhenfrey5936
@johnhenfrey5936 11 ай бұрын
West Yorkshire versus East Yorkshire, it makes me proud to be a Yorkshireman. Lucky enough to have seen both of them play live, impossible to pick who is the best really, as I am from West Yorkshire and Allan Holdsworth is too, I will go for Allan Holdsworth.
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 11 ай бұрын
The best reason
@alanmatthew5713
@alanmatthew5713 11 ай бұрын
Not for nothing but I think "The Wardenclyffe Tower" is the best Holdsworth record ever.
@asegal4677
@asegal4677 11 ай бұрын
I've watched this channel long enough to have predicted this outcome:) Ha, ha! ... Your passing reference to Shawn Lane (himself a Holdsworth worshipper) reminded me of something I've thought about in the past: Would love to hear your thoughts on the music of Shawn Lane in a dedicated video, particularly featuring a, "what could have been" segment. Lane died young, was relatively unknown popularly during his lifetime, and was unfortunately not very prolific in terms of released recordings. Yet, for me, some of the most emotive and artistically impactful (not to mention, technically dazzling) guitar playing I've ever heard is on old Shawn Lane bootlegs and some of his official work. Whenever I listen to some of these things, I wonder what could have been.
@adams115
@adams115 11 ай бұрын
Keep using the thing o meter! 💨
@arjunmitra732
@arjunmitra732 11 ай бұрын
Allan became almost a recluse towards the end. John told me how much he wanted to collaborate with Allan, called him up several times, Allan never returned his calls. Gary Husband tried too but with no success...
@Mj323_bb
@Mj323_bb 11 ай бұрын
One of your best videos ever ... but be =very= suspicious of that Super-i-ometer ... there was none of the usual visual distortion during the final evaluation, so someone may have replaced it with a near-identical duplicate!!!
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 11 ай бұрын
I have a new camera with a Zoom and film now from about 1/2 a mile away
@geoffccrow2333
@geoffccrow2333 11 ай бұрын
VS ANDY EDWARDS VS GOD VS MICHAEL JACKSON
@michaelbenz8092
@michaelbenz8092 11 ай бұрын
I like the Superiometer. If it can humble Andy Edwards or even draw forth a rant, it has to have some purpose. Besides, it gives the opportunity to hear your thoughts about two artists in relation to each other.
@AndyEdwardsDrummer
@AndyEdwardsDrummer 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for understanding what this is really about
@SuperStrik9
@SuperStrik9 11 ай бұрын
Fun video.
@larryzink8978
@larryzink8978 11 ай бұрын
Saw Holdsworth in the small Mapleleaf bar in New Orleans mid 80's . 20 people in there, and ran away hands over my ears due to the Insane loudness. What an insensitive boor.
@chris_24189
@chris_24189 11 ай бұрын
What does the S - Ometer struggle with more? "McLawflin" or "Jack - O" ? Just curious.
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