John McWhorter on "Black Fragility" | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

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Linguistics professor and "Nine Nasty Words" author John McWhorter joins Bill Maher for a common-sense conversation about race.
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[@DGDfan13]

The fact that people still take anything on Twitter seriously is mind blowing. Why tf are we letting TWITTER dictate a highly nuanced situation? Weird.

[@tommyanomaly6193]

@@patrickd1989 Yes!

[@ashleysmith7238]

True for comments in KZbin as well lol

[@cassiecat7038]

Unfortunately the media takes it seriously 😒 I really don’t get why.

[@tommyanomaly6193]

@@cassiecat7038 Because sensationalism sells and the media is a business.

[@DGDfan13]

@@tommyanomaly6193 Truers. Which is sad, we NEED the media to investigate as well as inform. Unfortunate that money corrupts all

[@DeusEx.Machina]

I know this is something lame fans say, but I seriously never clicked on a video so fast in my life. I have never heard of this man, but as soon as I read the title, I knew what he was going to talk about and as a black person, I have been waiting for a very long time for someone in my community to clarify that we are not garden flowers and that everyone is racist or wrong to say that a black person did something wrong.

[@alementary4065]

Most reasonable people understand this. Rational voices are getting drowned out. John McWhorter, Coleman Hughes, Glenn Loury, Thomas Sowell, Jericho Green, Anthony Brian Logan, Candace Owens, Brandon Tatum, Aba & Preach...there are some great black voices out there that don't get the attention mental midgets like Ta-Nehisi Coates, Ibram X. Kendi, Michael E. Dyson, Nikole Hannah Jones, etc. get. Difference is, the ones I named are actually smart, not word salad processors.

[@YourLocalCopiumDealer]

If you liked this you should listen to his conversations with Glenn Loury at bloggingheads. Highly recommend it.

[@jacobfromallstate4963]

Fucking refreshing

[@jacobfromallstate4963]

@@alementary4065 love Aba and Preach

[@alementary4065]

@Skippy Skipperson you can't have an honest discussion on race when only one race can be discussed.

[@frankenbeans6930]

First, I'm surprised bill even had mcwhorter on. Second, I'm surprised there was so much applause. Good job John 👍

[@johnnyyork3796]

Yea the audience clapping was full of shit though, they would be clapping for Robin DeAngelo saying the exact opposite if she were sitting there.

[@bobshenix]

Gives me hope, but Johnny York is right...

[@petermathis435]

Why are you surprised? Bill Maher is anti political correctness and silly religions whether they exist on the bible belt right or the woke left.

[@johnnyyork3796]

@@petermathis435 bill says he is yet he has people on and most of his panel believes that shit. He likes to throw an occasional bone to the other side and act like he is a truth teller for both sides. He and his audience is agreeing with what john is saying, but as soon as he has anyone else on that says the opposite, his trained seals clap and agree.

[@frankenbeans6930]

@@petermathis435 I'm surprised because Bill spends so much time arguing the other side of the issues with his usual panels of woke idiots. If he truly admires John and his ideas he needs to be braver and more honest with his guests and audience.

[@honestjohn6418]

I love John McWhorter and Glenn Loury. Two of the best people in the conversation

[@cyclist68]

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes an act of rebellion."

[@mikeviall811]

I disagree with much of what Maher says but I subscribed based on this interview. McWhorter is incredibly impressive.

[@Emk315]

Many of us feel they way you feel Sir.

[@pcbacklash_3261]

I love listening to John speak -- not just because he's obviously smart and articulate, but because he's 100% RIGHT!

[@ederrell6032]

Alot of us feel that way we're just not on social media crying

[@monsterchimp1669]

I once told a black coworker about a conversation I had with a white woman who was trying to convince me black people can't be racist because racism is "power plus privelege". He was visibly upset, and I would have loved to see that woman explain to this man that he's a child, incapable of sin.

[@pebblepod30]

but power depends on the situation. In current times, in many situations, people who are black can be more powerful, esp by social rules (e.g. in conversation light skin is assumed to be racist, dark not), or physical numbers of people; or bc they could be wealthy. Power depends on situation, so the strict racist ideology here doesn't fit reality.

[@JohnSmith-tk7nt]

This is a criminally short interview from a guy who could teach bills audience alot

[@danpeak]

The conversation went on for another 10 mins on tv.

[@LucasOfBayPark]

Here's the link to the full show/interview, picking up where this one left off: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZiwl6RoZ5iUZqc

[@teflongoon]

The scope of whom he could teach extends faaaaaaar beyond Bill's audience.

[@stephenmel8630]

@4 Lights There Are , what do you mean by "a single better idea"? His entire point was that Black America is not a homogeneous group of victims, yet this book portrays them as such. There is a lot to unpack there. Our current president stated "Unlike the African American community, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly diverse attitudes about different things." There is a huge portion of the country that portrays black folks as all the same - including the author of White Fragility.

[@JerBlackmer]

@4 Lights There Are the better idea is to tell people to quit being babies....and condescending to people of color...... that was pretty obvious

[@yousefayub8747]

Black diversity. As a black man, I've been waiting for someone to say that to an audience for a long time.

[@MsDudette21]

Same! Good god people are so stupid these days. I'm glad there is someone making sense

[@chinajoe272]

Its very minority group. 85% are monolithic non free thinking people who vote religiously for Democrats who've oppressed them for 200 years

[@creativewriter3887]

@@chinajoe272 As opposed to the Republicans who have consistently voted AGAINST any policy that is not White, Elitist and Racist. Even now, they're voting more to keep more money in their pockets and oppose anything that would create wage and civil equality--- which is WHY they hate Critical Race Theory and support the most racist and vile components of society. For a "pro life" party they sure as hell do EVERYTHING to ensure poverty, war, subjugation, voter suppression and means to prevent vaccination of minorities and such; all while playing the victim! I mean equating wearing a mask to wearing the Star of David in Nazi germany. WTF. Meanwhile 600,000 people have DIED from Covid. OH but this isn't oppression and death?

[@RubyTwilite]

Unfortunately you have entitled condescending politicians saying "If you don't know who to vote for, me or Trump then you ain't black!" where was the outrage over that? Because outrage has become an emotional shakedown- give us what we want or we'll burn cities down, a tool to be used by politicians which is why Que Mala and celebrities were bailing out protesters. The reality is they didn't give a damn about all the black and immigrant owned businesses that were destroyed or and people who were killed. When will people see this and wake up to the fact that they are being used.

[@RubyTwilite]

@Curiouser11 I find the GOP has been asleep and Dems have been infiltrated by extremists who now have the loudest voices. There is no dialogue, no discussion. No dissent permitted. Remember when Diane Feinstein shook hands with Lindsey Graham and said its was very nice negotiating? The left called for her to retire because how dare she be civil. That is very sad. I wasn't happy with Trump's tweets but I'm especially not happy with the push toward Socialism. I have friends from eastern europe who are freaking out because they recognize the rhetoric and know where it leads. I don't see civility returning because incivility has been profitable- look at how much money BLM has raised.

[@sanghoonlee5171]

"White Fragility should be used to keep table from wobbling. That's the only use for that book." 🤣

[@EyeTunz]

Pretty lame joke actually.

[@blix101112]

@@EyeTunz Kinda like your sense of humor---lame?

[@EyeTunz]

@@blix101112 good one.😐

[@CourtneyHaynes]

he totally lied about the book. I think it has major problems, but he flat out made things up that aren't even in there.

[@commanderinsleep2779]

Wow, the left bitching about “White Fragility” as they promulgated every ridiculous idea just to get me in power!

[@jayj3000]

There's so many of us (who are black) that are just exhausted every time there's some new issue to rant and complain about. It really is a special sect of us, the overly-"conscious" usually HBCU grad that feels their purpose in life is to inspect for any all reason to air grievances. Even with the Michael Brown type of situations, many of us are so exhausted at street dudes doing dumb stuff to trigger wacky cops, and then the dreadlock army coming in with self righteous protest.

[@TheJustina102085]

It’s funny, I’m a white guy just as a preface, but my roommate for years was a black guy. He bitched so much about this argument for low expectations that I became an expert on the dissenting point of view from the mainstream. I personally never thought about things from that side but once I asked myself, “would I want that”, it all made sense to me. I certainly wouldn’t want bunch of white people saying attaining an ID is racist because I’m too dumb to find a DMV or that being on time is a white concept & shouldn’t expect telling time as something I can accomplish blah blah.. it’s going to take black and brown people to tell us ignorant white elites to F off haha anyways your comment made me think of my buddy.

[@jamescolby7125]

Some of those same points you touched on I'm exhausted about. But I'm also exhausted about people like you who don't seem to care about your own. People like you I fit in the same category as the dumb Street dudes who do stupid stuff to get cops attention, you're no different than them when it comes to the plight of black people in the United States. You just fit on the side where you're okay with others taking advantage of your people. If I had my way people like you and the so-called Thug be wiped off the face of the universe that way real black progressives could find a route to make change for the betterment of our people.

[@zachsalvatore5175]

Damn🤣who could’ve guessed it’d be the HBCU grads

[@angusdog22]

I agree . I really think it a small, well organized , well funded group of radical leftists ( black and white ) that are controlling the social discourse right now in America. Most regular people are just trying to make it in life and are disgusted with all this stuff .

[@practicalgamer4991]

so what you’re saying is street dudes trigger cops into killing them ?

[@g-tom1986]

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[@danielkane851]

But now and invest in Bitcoin

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Trading crypto currency (bitcoin) is also a nice way to invest $1000 and change your life

[@williamseric7691]

Well with the crypto currency market favorable as it is, investing now wouldn't be a bad choice.

[@hellmuth26]

Why is this only 4 minutes, should have given him the whole show.

[@icantdrive75]

The actual conversation went on for another 10 minutes and it was fantastic.

[@YourLocalCopiumDealer]

Bill has been cutting most of his interviews lately.

[@Almost-Nothing]

Sadly, you need to pay to watch it all

[@janeaustin9540]

@@Almost-Nothing You can listen to the entire show as a podcast for free if you are OK not seeing it.

[@DamirMohamed46]

​@@Almost-Nothing Not really. Here's the entire episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZiwl6RoZ5iUZqc

[@meinking22]

I'm a simple man...I see John McWhorter on KZbin and I click Play, every time.

[@maximuskhan2100]

I love him and Lowry; I want to sit on a porch with a shotgun in my lap next to Lowry and tell them all to get off our lawns! lol

[@meinking22]

@@maximuskhan2100 Lowry also rocks. Just common sense. I could listen to that dude all day long.

[@Uouttooo]

You are not a simple man, more like a copy cat.

[@Andrew-zv4fm]

I read this that you are a single man.

[@blackout07blue]

Lol. He says nothing of substance.

[@mrt094]

THANK YOU. As a black person I feel the exact same way but when I look at the reactions and beliefs of my peers it felt like I was going crazy.

[@Ablestreet]

Some Black people might agree with the book White Fragility and others may not. It would help the world a lot if people just saw a black person as just that, a black person. Not someone who is a carbon copy of all other black people. The same should be said for all white people, Asian people, Hispanic people and so on!

[@srcolema07]

❤

[@RubyTwilite]

You would think but the left thinks thats not enough. A black person who disagrees with them is called all sorts of racist names and not allowed to think for themselves, how condescending!

[@Ablestreet]

@@RubyTwilite Your comment is the opposite of the point I was making!

[@mattstaj3632]

Well said...it really is that simple.

[@jays6654]

@@RubyTwilite that’s the best response you can come up with? Your white fragility shows right through ! SMDH

[@Epiousios18]

He's 55? He looks great, good for him. Great discussion as well.

[@adaminfinity1733]

Black don't crack (black people age slowly because of more melanin)

[@brasshouse-og]

Pretty sure I will look like a sack of potatoes at 55. He does look great.

[@jimmerskrimmerfriddet3246]

“Shade don’t fade”

[@germanrud9904]

@@adaminfinity1733 pretty sure everyone ages just about the same bro.. external appearance is different and I've seen people of all races tread both ends of the looks spectrum

[@adaminfinity1733]

@@germanrud9904 yes but the more melanin someone has generally means that their skin ages slowly. This is because darker skin has natural SPF. I think dark skinned black people have a natural SPF of about 30.

[@angprt2]

This was a good conversation. We need more guests like this that bring common sense back to the forefront

[@cabayern9416]

Yes!!!! He needs to speak everywhere!

[@falseprogress]

McWhorter is also one of the best at "talking in parentheses" (adding a side note) without getting off his main points.

[@williammiller8317]

The soft bigotry of low expectations...

[@shok24199]

John _killed_ it here. He obviously prepared for this, because his lines are razor sharp.

[@billsimms2511]

Yes indeed his words packed punch here ..

[@mspoints4fre123]

John is always like this surprisingly. Dude is just super quick witted.

[@jl4339]

I wouldn't say, he "killed" it. He definitely needed more time to effectively to support his points with more examples, etc.

[@jethro502]

His mind is razor sharp, all his interviews are like that.

[@mspoints4fre123]

@Brian H When you have insane people like Joy Reid being run on CNN 24/7 this is what happens

[@SoulCityAM]

Finally someone authentic and real on national television. I hope he gets more recognition.

[@oceania2385]

McWhorter and Glenn Loury have a regular show on "blogging heads TV" on youtube. They're both brilliant have amazing insight.

[@Based_Proletariat]

“Brilliant” mean he says what appeals to your white fragility. Truth hurts.

[@lutherblissett8780]

@@Based_Proletariat - you clowns are hilarious.

[@PoldarkGodzilla]

@@Based_Proletariat zzzz

[@gmpm]

Recognition, hey… recognition for what?

[@maxhess3151]

"Doing the work" is the one phrase that pisses me off the most. It's a completely empty phrase.

[@jacques.cousteau]

Sound cultish too, like something out of the Scientology playbook

[@Nashawkeye]

A very Kamala thing to say.

[@Batham55]

It's because when they say I'm "doing the work" it really means "I want to APPEAR to be doing the work so please treat me like one of the 'good ones'"

[@joshhoffman5233]

“My truth” is another one I can’t stand. I get what some people mean, but I’ve also seen it abused by a genuine psychopath so I can’t stand hearing it. Scarred. But it got me thinking wtf does that mean. There’s truth, there’s perspectives, valid perspectives, there’s bullshit, there are multiple truths. When did a perspective have to become “my truth?” I guess it can’t be “a truth” because that’d be claiming real knowledge. If you want it to be a way but not amenable to rationality it has to be “mine” perhaps.

[@blackout07blue]

I don’t subscribe to that slogan, but I’m pretty sure it’s a common sense slogan.

[@imagebboy]

Found him decades ago during the ebonics issue. Love guys that call it as they see it. As a linguistics professor, he shocked the right when he broke down scientifically how Black English CAN BE considered a language, then he shocks the left with saying things like "Silence IS NOT violence". Super great guy, have read many of his books and he inspired me to get into linguistics in college. Thank you Dr. McWhorter!

[@mogznwaz]

Black English has several dialects too. The thing that strings it all together though is that it all sounds HORRIBLE. I hate London Ali G style ‘urban’ language. I HATE IT. All this ‘bro’ and ‘fam’ wannabe gangsta stuff is embarrassing. Someone who speaks English beautifully like John or like Neil DeGrasse Tyson or Morgan Freeman or Denzel Washington well wow those are some wonderful role models full stop not just for black people.

[@b-bigb1426]

Corporate America doesn’t want black English. Adapt to the culture. Life would be a lot smoother.

[@SeraphsWitness]

I don't think anyone believes "black English" isn't a language. It's just whether or not it should be standardized and taught in schools. If a nation doesn't have a common communication tool, it falls apart. This doesn't mean blacks are speaking objectively "wrong" (words are conventions, after all), but that we need to convene around a common language. And the more we endorse an reinforce a seldom-used alternative, rather than reinforcing a common thread, the more disservice we do to our nation. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with commonality. To say nothing of the low-class impression it leaves on anyone above a college education. Black or white, that's fairly universal.

[@blackmore4]

@@SeraphsWitness Wouldn't 'dialect' be a better description than 'language' (regarding most forms of Ebonic English)?

[@SeraphsWitness]

@@blackmore4 "dialect" doesn't fix the deeper problem at hand though. It's not an issue of semantics. It's an issue of common communication. There's a reason we don't teach British English. There's a reason we don't teach slang, whether it's southern or northern or black or white. We need a common set of standards by which to communicate and judge communication. Yes, language is a convention, so there's no technical "right" or "wrong" in an objective sense. But we still need to grade people on communication, so how do we do that? By adhering to an agreed-upon standard. That's how language works. So no, we shouldn't accept "axe" as an alternate spelling for "ask". And we shouldn't accept, "You was" in place of "You are".

[@doug196]

McWhorter and Lowery have fascinating conversations. I can't understand how they're not more commonly know.

[@direwolf6234]

yes glenn LOURY has great insights...

[@Soccercrazyigboman]

Lol because they're not part of the woke victim culture. That's not popular

[@JerseyJersey100]

Soccercrazyigboman or more importantly is less profitable lol

[@Soccercrazyigboman]

@@JerseyJersey100 yes. It's not profitable at all. But it's not profitable because it's not popular. You'd never hear about them but you'll hear about that white woman that wrote white fragility

[@lowfrequency1180]

Because they’re are seen as pariahs by the left

[@sideshowamit]

This guy is brilliant and he needs to be on more often. Less political hacks Bill, more free and diverse thinkers!

[@HT-vi6kb]

Watch bloggingheads, it’s a podcast with him and Glenn lourey

[@inspiRational99]

@@HT-vi6kb Thanks for the recommendation

[@antonc81]

Check out Coleman Hughes too

[@MrLGonzalez12]

This guy is not brilliant. Saying that people of color are crazy is racist.

[@harveydodd8803]

Doesn’t free and diverse thinker just mean you agree with them. Otherwise, what’s your definition of a “political hack.”

[@jvm-tv]

Please bring Thomas Sowell next.

[@bookshelf5759]

He doesnt seem to do many interviews these days. He’s almost 91

[@bryant475]

@@bookshelf5759 True, Larry Elder then!

[@br7451]

@s v Bill Maher would agree with most of Thomas Sowell.

[@ALE-of4vk]

Thomas Sowell is (or was) the token black darling of white conservatives. I don't think this guy is quite like that,

[@br7451]

@ALE1969, Don't apply the word 'token' to Sowell. Sowell was one-of-a kind. Read his books. He's brilliant and is not afraid to disagree with anybody, especially black intellectuals. He does not deny the effects of slavery and racism but he is more focused on the factors that determine the success of the various groups. Typical black leaders focus on external factors like slavery, systemic racism and propose external solutions like reparations, affirmative action, diversity, etc. He identifies other factors like geography, history, culture and various social ghetto pathologies. He stresses the internal factors like family and ethnic culture that determine consistent and long-term success. He often points to the success of the Chinese, Japanese, Germans, Lebanese, Nigerians, etc who often had to start from scratch as immigrants.

[@clarkm8840]

Quiet as its kept, black folk just want to be left alone, period, to do our thing. The average black person's response to what some racism (Oh my!) whites hyperventilate about is, meh...but when I come to get my house appraised don't give me a lower appraisal, don't screw me over on credit, don't jack me on business loans, e.g. don't hurt me financially, or think you can, because I'm black. Otherwise, its sticks and stones.

[@tryingharder]

Exactly. I’ve said to white friends “treat black people like you do white people and we’re good.” Be it like you mentioned when getting your home appraised, or the HR director at any company or the police. I don’t want special treatment, just be fair.

[@tonytooreal2433]

that’s your problem, you think you have bad credit and bad finances because you’re black. It’s really because you don’t pay your bills on time. You sound like the typical my life sucks because I’m black race card pulling loser brah.

[@ElectronFieldPulse]

Credit is literally an automated system that humans cannot mess with, how on earth did you think racists were hurting your credit? Other than that, I agree with your statement. People need to focus on the fundamentals instead of trying to incite division.

[@clarkm8840]

@@tonytooreal2433 Hey "brah" getting a house appraisal has nothing to do with credit, number one. In this case, clearly, this woman was given a lower appraisal because she was black. There's absolutely no argument there. You sound like the typical bigot, too stupid to make a cogent argument nor understand reality. You played yourself, you are the race card, "brah" LOL!!

[@clarkm8840]

@@ElectronFieldPulse a home appraisal has nothing to do with credit, but the value of the property, period. There's no reason a person's home should be undervalued because of their race, as in the case of the woman in the story. Also, credit is based on algorithms, but that hasn't prevented "humans" from giving someone who is black a higher interest rate WITH THE SAME CREDIT SCORE as a white person. This too has been documented, time and again. Certain banks have lost civil lawsuits for being found to have done the same thing. Pretending the problem is just bad credit when the facts, as in this case, are documented and proven is itself racist.

[@reyrodriguez1005]

I learned about him during the whole Jesse Smollet BS. His interview with Don Lemon was brilliant, unfortunately you can’t find it on social media anymore because his perception wasn’t popular and didn’t fit the narrative being pushed. He’s a brilliant man

[@blackout07blue]

Lol. He sounds kind of dumb.

[@RoadsandRipples]

I just found a couple videos of him on Don Lemon talking about this stuff. And posted by CNN. You just made me defend CNN.

[@egregiousqueef7781]

The "narrative being pushed" has very little to do with politics per se and more to do with maintaining an economic power strata. The wealthy NEED racism; the NEED class conflict in the lower tiers. It keeps people distracted from their plundering. Keeping choices limited to the 2 party duopoly is strategy; the continued existence of homelessness is a strategy (there is no lack of housing, there are numerous empty apartment complexes, hotels, etc, that wealthy banks are sitting on but while we know Republicans won't do anything, nor will Democrats... that would involved confronting banks and using eminent domain to expropriate their property to house these people -- the number of whom grow every year) Humans, without shelter, while a glut of empty shelters exists all around them. To use their power to do this the party with such power would have to essentially be cutting off a re-election funding source There's so much detail but I will end with this: *The Federal electorate exists to PROTECT THE INTERESTS OF ONE SINGLE CLASS ONLY* ... and all are guilty, Dem & Rep When will people begin to realize that unless they are made to do so by force we cannot expect the wealthy, the banks, those with the means and resources to help to do so voluntarily. Stop defending the scumbags, esp ESPECIALLY if you call yourself Christian

[@awali48]

@@blackout07blue Well, sort of like your very short and simple sentence without any rationale to support it - stupid.

[@SlowBoyAthlete]

I think this is the JM & DL interview you were referring to: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5nbYWOhrZdjl9k

[@ichifish]

I love John McWhorter and credit him with inspiring my career as a linguist. If you haven't listened to his podcast "Lexicon Valley" give it a shot!

[@jps0117]

True. That's where I first found him.

[@chrisk9613]

Check him out on the Glenn Loury show too. He’s a frequent collaborator.

[@ericthegreat7125]

John and Glenn Loury are voices of reason in a crazy time.

[@GnarlyBolt]

hear hear

[@FirstNameLastName-kt3zn]

Glenn's podcast is great

[@synchronium24]

John, yes. Glenn, not so much.

[@bettinabarr9107]

@@synchronium24 what’s wrong with Glenn?

[@bettinabarr9107]

@@synchronium24 what’s wrong with Glenn?

[@HatefYaminiOnline]

John McWhorter speaks, I listen. Great to see him on the show.

[@EyeTunz]

He didn’t say much worth hearing but ok.

[@blix101112]

@@EyeTunz You are proof that common sense is not so common

[@EyeTunz]

@@blix101112 OMG!!! You are so witty!!

[@tubingforever]

@@EyeTunz Nah you're just salty that he said things that challenged your leftist bias, sweetie.

[@EyeTunz]

@@tubingforever not really. Uhh, sweetie.

[@Rayzersword]

Best guest Bill has had in a while, their later conversation comparing the super woke crowd to a religion was great. XD

[@stevenjackson5213]

Yes, Kinda like comparing Trumpanzees to Reich wing hate mongers. An absolute religion of victims, cancel culture and hate America first. Great guy! Biden 12 more years

[@blackout07blue]

Lol. This was an interview full of strawman arguments.

[@MrLifter20]

@@blackout07blue That is exactly what I saw too. I am glad I am not the only one. Bill has been doing a lot of strawman arguments for the last few months.

[@blix101112]

@@MrLifter20 If by "straw man" you mean applying common sense to an increasingly illiberal progressive movement , then Bill is the tonic for this liberal sickness needs. " Wokeness" which is starting to show similarities to Mao's Cultural Revolution, almost got Trump elected to a 2nd term ( and, no, I am NOT a Trump fan). Biden, and his ilk, pushing this extreme left-wing agenda will almost certainly tip the midterms to the Republicans.

[@stevenjackson5213]

@@blix101112 Ok Putin

[@mikeyd8474]

“It takes guts these days to be a voice in common sense.”

[@MrLGonzalez12]

You’re totally right! Too bad this racist clown isn’t speaking common sense

[@lutherblissett8780]

@@MrLGonzalez12 - I feel the same way about Robin D'Angelo mate. Keep your chin up.

[@MrLGonzalez12]

@@lutherblissett8780 defending people of color is low bar but claiming they’re all mentally ill is a high bar? 🤔 this is a post truth world after all

[@lutherblissett8780]

@@MrLGonzalez12 - I think you've replied to the wrong comment. Anyway, keep coping.

[@MrLGonzalez12]

@@lutherblissett8780 ah you’re right lol but the same applies really. Robin didn’t say anything racist. Unless you’re a racist white in which case you might think the book was racist. But as a person of color I can say that this is nothing compared to the daily barrage of racism we get in this country. So please tell me more how you think this woman is racist for defending people of color and asking white people to treat them with respect?

[@jamesr3505]

Please put the whole vid up. I know it’s catchy to end on the applause line, but this was an amazing interview that needs to be circulated publicly.

[@direwolf6234]

too bad he wasn't able to talk about the book...maher's an idiot sometimes

[@blackout07blue]

Lmao. Nothing amazing about this interview, incel.

[@blackout07blue]

Bunch of strawman arguments and shallow concepts.

[@jamesr3505]

@@blackout07blue Please, say literally anything with relevant content. For instance, mention a specific strawman argument. Anything other than the language of anger and ignorance.

[@robd593]

@@jamesr3505 don’t bother, he can’t. He’s the exact type of victim they’re referring to.

[@batgurrl]

I don’t know this guy but he seems VERY cool and funny as hell. Yes we can’t has never been the slogan for Black America and it’s not now. Amen🙏

[@YourLocalCopiumDealer]

If you like him you should try watching his conversations with Glenn Loury at bloggingheads. Highly recommend!

[@abbaeben6409]

Yes. John and Glenn Loury. KZbin the Glenn show. An island of sanity in these crazy times.

[@rockstarmediausa779]

@@YourLocalCopiumDealer Bloggerheads is great. Both of those Gents are Awesome.

[@YourLocalCopiumDealer]

I'm so glad to see so many Glenn and John fans here in the comments.

[@davebartholome2924]

He gets called a “black conservative” just because he’s thoughtful and sometimes questions liberal orthodoxy-but he’s really just an original and independent thinker-the kind we need more of.

[@KurtFeudaleKing]

Someone at HBO fell asleep, cause they accidently let John McWhorter on their Network. But props to Bill for having someone with real balls and brains on for once. Maybe he will get back a small bit of all the respect he has been losing lately.

[@epsteenwusmerdered9878]

They probably saw that he was black, and thought, “oh he’s black, get him on” 😆

[@DonnaBrooks]

How has he been losing respect lately? Bill always seemed to be very fair in criticizing both Democrats & Republicans, both liberals & conservatives, both black & white, & both Magastan & Wokeville. The only people he hasn't taken on are the Trans Demands Activists & I wish he'd have more people from the Left educating his audience about that! Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying, Miranda Yardley, the LGB Alliance (including one of the founders of Stonewall), Julia Beck, Meghan Murphy, Kara Dansky, & others on the Left should be invited on to counter the dominant narrative about "trans" (whatever that even means today) people from the Left, not the Right, like Milo.

[@Showmeyourtitties]

Uhhhh... Maher has tons of diverse thinkers on. What are you even suggesting?

[@joannajensen2221]

@@Showmeyourtitties he went full anti gop for 4 years

[@Showmeyourtitties]

@@joannajensen2221 So? He's still had on counter narrative guests. Milo, Peterson, Kellyanne Conway, Steve Bannon, Anne Coultur... I could keep going. The original premise is incorrect.

[@jonnyhan]

Bill Maher is officially putting himself out there as a true cultural moderate and a patriot that does not want to see the country further divided. John McWhorter is one such moderate himself and the country badly needs moderates to start being vocal against the forces tearing us apart.

[@Nashawkeye]

We have to give Bill credit for having John on the show and taking on this subject. It takes balls to go against the grain and have a different opinion especially in this day and age.

[@blackout07blue]

@@Nashawkeye literally nothing said in this is impactful. Strawman arguments and shallow concepts.

[@blackout07blue]

“cultural moderate” LMAO. You loony tunes have nothing but strawman arguments.

[@blackout07blue]

It’s wild how easily impressed pathetic people are. Lol

[@seoz774]

@@blackout07blue Mcwhorter knows more about black people in America than you ever could

[@jopo7996]

Black Fragility sounds like a terrible nickname for a professional boxer.

[@wb6162]

No, a race horse.

[@ashanyc9146]

@Skippy Skipperson Trump's new cologne. "White fragility". #perfect

[@fuckamericanidiot]

@@ashanyc9146 ..........cough.........

[@hoagied3783]

I love John so goddamn much. Everyone should watch his convos with Glenn.

[@bryanhawkins9418]

Im on it! What a pair huh? I'd like to see Loury on Joe Rogsn's podcast and McWhorter on Jordan Peterson's! (I think their personalities fit those podcasts respectively.)

[@whenthedrumskickin9831]

So good! Always a worthwhile listen!

[@viconiusvortex4999]

The one with Colonel West as well as with Glenn was absolutely riveting. Long format and it just flew by.

[@suvariboy]

Glenn?

[@donrua6632]

John on Jordan P's podcast with be must-listen media for me. That would be great.

[@ThunderThouin]

Thomas Sowell, Walter E. Williams, Glenn Loury, John Mcwhorter, Coleman Hughes, Chloe Valdary, John Wood, Jr., just to name a few.

[@wolf7el356]

"The good ones"

[@ThunderThouin]

@@wolf7el356 Black intellectuals courageous enough to go against the orthodoxy of this monolithic culture.

[@wolf7el356]

@@ThunderThouin Translation: "Black people I like because they don't say anything I disagree with & make me feel good about my ideals about an entire group of people I don't even interact with".

[@aslansalive]

@@wolf7el356 *yawn* Isn't that your mother we hear calling? Go home, it's time for your bath. To lump all those people listed above as orthodox in their beliefs shows a complete ignorance of their views on your part. If you ever spent any time actually listening to them you would know that there is quite a bit of differing opinions within that list. Which, in itself, is enough to prove your charges false and ad hominems misguided.

[@ThunderThouin]

@@wolf7el356 Wrong kid. I think you assume a little too much.

[@Ho11is2Ho11ywood]

I, like many, would love to hear a longer interview but this can all be summed up into one sentence. "Black people are not a monolith."

[@glimmrgirl]

Have you heard of ‘the Glenn show’ at bloggingheads tv, here on KZbin? John and Glenn have been discussing this topic for almost a decade. It’s always a pleasure to listen to them both. I highly recommend it.

[@Bornearth75]

John!!!! Yay! Love him. Now get Glenn on there too

[@blackout07blue]

Lol. Bring on dipshit #2 for more strawman arguments.

[@mlovmo]

@@blackout07blue I heard that your invitation is in the mail.

[@PoldarkGodzilla]

@@blackout07blue triggered by logic and common sense

[@bendaniel6887]

which Glenn was that ??

[@Bornearth75]

@@bendaniel6887 Glenn Lowry

[@BrianLeevoice]

John McWhorter is a national treasure.

[@bertrandrussell894]

I couldn't agree more. As is Glenn Loury.

[@triciah477]

I agree too, assuming you treasure TRASH.

[@bertrandrussell894]

@@triciah477 A difference of opinion is one thing, but to have such a strong and incorrect view on McWorter points to an emotional response rather than a logical or reasoned one. I hope you see through it one day. He and Glenn both really are brilliant and one can learn a lot.

[@Nashawkeye]

@@triciah477 Purely emotional response. Listen to his show with an open mind, you will benefit from it.

[@blackout07blue]

All strawman arguments.

[@jobsmine]

I think I just found my new hero. As a black man, all I can say is that we need more people like this guy in the black community.

[@glimmrgirl]

Check out his conversations with Glenn Loury. They bring me hope. kzbin.info/aero/PLNKMRlDojbRLXTsiamlNOG_2_b2EY_4ki

[@rustyspigot1876]

You are in for a treat. This guy is brutally smart, self-aware and self-deprecating, and oddly funny. Check out Gad Saad as well if you are unfamiliar.

[@rustyspigot1876]

@@glimmrgirl Those conversations are probably the most valuable social commodity on YT. Could actually save this country if people listened to them.

[@glimmrgirl]

@@rustyspigot1876 I couldn’t agree more!

[@rustyspigot1876]

@@glimmrgirl I came across them last year stuck in lockdown, and I've been absolutely perplexed since then that they are not household names in the black community. My friend says that it's almost entirely a result of their skeptical stances on reparations. Which is sad.

[@nikokaapa]

Coming across this man’s work last year was relieving.

[@blackout07blue]

Lol. incel

[@streamtec88]

I’ve been listening to his podcast “Lexicon Valley” for almost 4 years now. Highly recommend!

[@dg7815]

Woah, my clone beat me here by less than a minute.

[@YourLocalCopiumDealer]

His conversations with Glenn Loury at bloggingheads is amazing too.

[@RUTHLESSambition5]

Just anothet Uncle Tim😂😂 Being used by whites to go at your own people.. Oldest trick in the book. Fox uses Candace,Leo like clock work

[@YourLocalCopiumDealer]

@@RUTHLESSambition5 How dare he think for himself. Doesn't he know that black intellectuals aren't allowed to do that? Buddy, you are the problem.

[@tabbiwytch1313]

Thanks for sharing that - certainly would love to listen to more of what he has to say.

[@isabelrodriguez3330]

Having been a bastion of liberalism in the 80s and 90s doesn't make you an expert on progressivism today. If you don't move with the times, then you are by definition a conservative.

[@abuibu]

How to be anti-racist. Step 1) Treat everyone equally no matter their skin colour. The end.

[@ikant312]

The problem with that is- racists feel like they do treat everyone equal no matter their skin color. The whole concept of segregation was separate but equal.

[@quietus13]

@@ikant312 wrong. The powers that be never intended "separate but equal" to actually be equal. The only way to ensure equality was to integrate so that whites couldn't horde all the resources for themselves, which was the reality and intent of "separate but equal". By recreating group identities and pushing for segregation in recent times people are just setting themselves up for failure

[@Nashawkeye]

@@ikant312 You think people are that out of touch? Actual racists know exactly what they are doing and most people aren't racists and also know exactly what they are doing. This fantasy of unknown bias is nonsensical.

[@abuibu]

@@ikant312 segregation is racist no matter who it's targeting or benefiting if such segregation is based on race.

[@ikant312]

@@Nashawkeye lol- the mere fact that D J Trump got 75 million votes debunks your comment

[@acyaghogho]

Please, upload the entire conversation 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@c.t.7386]

It has been uploaded.

[@Alexia24601]

Why have I never heard of this guy before? He's great! I'm going to have to look him up and read some of his stuff.

[@spaceman081447]

@Katherine Brown RE: "Why have I never heard of this guy before? He's great! I'm going to have to look him up and read some of his stuff." Here's a Wikipedia reference that includes all of his books: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McWhorter

[@megg.6651]

You need to branch out....

[@kaleabtesema8947]

This is my first time finding out about this dude and I think I found a hero.

[@kerrinorman]

Listen to The Glenn Show podcast. John is on every other week. Plus, he has a Substack - It Bears Mentioning.

[@takyrica]

Welcome! Check out coleman hughes too!

[@Selandry1]

And he has many friends you will feel the same about.

[@blackout07blue]

You found someone to tell you that you are not racist for saying racist stuff. Congrats. Lmao

[@blackout07blue]

This guy is literally shallow commentary and strawman arguments.

[@2008topshelf]

I always respected this fellow because he stood up and publicly debated Damon Dash when it was not popular to do so. Damon only later acknowledged he was wrong.

[@cragjones1799]

Ive listened to Mcwhorter for years , hes brilliant. His podcast on linguistics is amazing, his comments on social issues are fascinating.

[@blackout07blue]

Lol. Literally nothing he said in this interview was of substance or profoundness.

[@adamdrouin2295]

If you don't understand what he said to be profound then you are exactly what he is talking about and definitely part of the problem

[@adamgates1142]

@ScootMagoot46 You're right it's actually just common sense but there are millions of people who desperately need to hear it probably including yourself.

[@cragjones1799]

@@blackout07blue Its not so easy in these very short interviews. I think those of us who have listened to Mcwhorter for hours know of his brilliance so it probably triggers this perhaps. I highly recommend listening to him.

[@mattb.4333]

Bill's show is inching toward a time slot on Fox News right after Tucker.

[@jenisejackson5408]

@Matt. You notice that too. The funny thing is the things Bill Maher rails against is the same thing the far right rails against. He could definitely get a show on Fox now.

[@imthedevilkys536]

Only ridiculous people buried in KZbin and twitter think like you 2. Live your life, literally nobody cares about you.

[@manny4012]

What an idiotic comment lol 😂

[@itsanit123]

I've liked him for years. I'm mixed race and this is the opinion of allot of black people. This is what my father and my grandfather who grew up during Jim Crow thought like.

[@carmenchantilly9049]

Sadly good men like your father are the ones we don’t hear from enough. It sad that what is represented is the super stars in music and sports, gang/rapper hootchie momma inarticulate lot. It kills me that we don’t give voice to the amazing intelligent educated change makers, I’m mean can we get some airtime and respect for them!

[@MrLGonzalez12]

Your father believed that he wasn’t oppressed and that he has a psychological disorder that causes him to pretend like a victim? Lol them white suprematists did a number on your grandfather lol

[@christerry1773]

In your opinion whats the percentage ratio in the black community that lean more towards Johns ideology vs the opposite?

[@MrLGonzalez12]

@@christerry1773 lmaoooo in my personal experience it’s 99% side with the real version of history that minorities have been systemically targeted for 500 years. But I know there’s a handful of black folks that have been brainwashed into believing white supremacist history like this. So I’d say it’s about 90/10

[@lordsolar4323]

did you need to add mixed race..yeah you did you don’t understand john at all

[@macmckulis7440]

What a good dude, it would be a pleasure to drink a beer with him oneday.

[@jackadoni]

nice dig at Obama

[@loveone8073]

First round on me😀

[@cornelioflorian5200]

Hi is simplifying the struggle of black and brown people in America! He may be justifying the continuity of the oppression on black people!

[@ayotundeayoko5861]

@@cornelioflorian5200 you are oppressed; not me

[@Nashawkeye]

@@cornelioflorian5200 Take a moment to listen to his show with Glenn Lowry, they dig into the complexity regularly.

[@alementary4065]

One of my intellectual heroes. If you haven't heard them, you should listen to his conversations with Glenn Loury.

[@rustyrazor1853]

link?

[@jetsrule07748]

@@rustyrazor1853 most recent from those two kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKCUqIWdaJ2jeJY&ab_channel=Bloggingheads.tv . But they cover a lot much of which can be found on the blogging heads page. John Mcwhorter is more liberal, Glenn Loury is more conservative. The linked conversation is a topic they agree more on, but they have, for instance, covered Trump in the past and have had staunch disagreements on him. John is very much so opposed to him as president and as a person. Glenn generally gives Trump, or at least the people who voted for him, more charity.

[@jetsrule07748]

They both are a good example in those instances however, how people that have very different views can have a civil discussion that presumes good intent from the other person while still standing their respective grounds and not ceding ground on their opinions. They are good friends, but don't agree on a lot. It's admirable in an age where that seems to be difficult for a lot of people.

[@alementary4065]

@@jetsrule07748 I've always found them to agree a lot on symptoms, but diverge on root causes, though even that has seemed to be more convergent on their recent discussions. But they are a wonderful example of very smart people with different opinions can actually discuss things. For that, your statement was spot on.

[@theminister1154]

glenn lowry show on most podcatchers > bloggingheads.tv. Personally I just prefer those 2 to all the rest of the bloggingheads.

[@JesusLovesYou9999]

I love this guy . A voice of sanity in a world gone mad .

[@rubencastaneda7953]

Why only 4 minutes......he sounds like such an interesting and intelligent guy. I could of listened to him the whole hour.

[@megg.6651]

Watch his podcast with Glenn Loury on KZbin

[@Ikgeloofhetniet]

Lexicon valley is his podcast

[@smarterthanyou2255]

Search him on youtube then

[@Rocchio753]

He has a bunch of content on KZbin. Brilliant guy

[@mattd6264]

he's got a bunch of books you should also check out. they don't post the full episode on youtube because they want you to buy HBO

[@hithere748]

That one guy is right, people in general do like to be a victim.

[@ashanyc9146]

Yup. Trump is victim too. The election was stolen from him.

[@hithere748]

Trump actually is a victim tho lol.

[@ceelo826]

@@hithere748 Only a victim of his own stupidity

[@Fahrenheit4051]

Trump is a victim of both his own stupidity and the stupidity of the media. Not only was he extremely divisive and inflammatory (for example, downplaying COVID in public while privately being very concerned), he also had a very tenuous grip on reality - e.g. staring at the Sun (politically insignificant but telling), egging on the (grossly overblown) violence at the capitol while denouncing the (underreported) BLM violence, and suggesting the injection of disinfectant into the bloodstream as a treatment against COVID. At the same time, the media also launched a slew of unfair attacks, like pretending as if he's never denounced white supremacy and acting as if he's the most racist president ever while sweeping under the rug the fact that he got the largest minority support of any Republican presidential candidate in decades. He could do no right in their eyes because that would give him a victory. Our public discourse has become quite deranged, and we need more John McWhorters, Glen Lourys, Bret and Eric Weinsteins, John Stossels, Benjamin Boyces, James Lindsays, David Freiheits, and Coleman Hughes to set the record straight and debate in good faith.

[@gamesman0118]

Yes all those people who followed Trump believed they were victims. They saw others (read people not like them) as "takers". Because if you are a victim it excuses your personal failure. You aren't responsible for how your life isn't what you wanted it to be. I didn't go to college because of quotas not because I spent more time partying then studying. I didn't get the promotion because affirmative action not because I slacked off and did the bare minimum.

[@martinhodell8465]

I'm glad he mentioned Coleman Hughes- who got an unfair hearing on Bill's show, upstaged by a more charismatic, more conventional thinking guy.

[@mohammedrashid8250]

Really? Because Coleman came off much better from what I've seen.

[@martinhodell8465]

@@mohammedrashid8250 watch the episode. Coleman did his thing- smart, fair, unassuming-- but the crowd was against him and the other guest steamrolled him (quite unfairly, but that's mob rule). No one wins over Bill's audience with logic--that isn't the game.

[@mohammedrashid8250]

@@martinhodell8465 I mean yeah Bill's audience didn't like him, but he clearly came off better to objective people. Just look at the comments.

[@martinhodell8465]

@@mohammedrashid8250 You're right-- but I wish Bill would've given Coleman a more fair shake. They'd probably agree on 95% of things. But the way it went down was disrespectful. Bakari Sellers was arrogant and tried to steamroll Coleman.

[@TerrorrLA]

Nah, Coleman Hughes killed it. It's thanks to that episode I ended up following Coleman Hughes.

[@mr.k905]

Listen to this man, he is a truly intelligent guy. So good to see him get the platform he deserves. Love his work on linguistics etc. too.

[@blackout07blue]

Lol. Literally just a bunch of strawman arguments.

[@mlovmo]

@@blackout07blue said a scarecrow....

[@GlennC789]

Everybody watching should know that John McWhorter has an outstanding, brilliant, linguistics podcast called Lexicon Valley. I don't care who you are, listen to it, and you will learn a great deal, and quite possibly understand things you didn't understand before.

[@YourLocalCopiumDealer]

His conversations with Glenn Loury at bloggingheads are great too and more on this topic.

[@pakpala1]

Nope!!!

[@blackout07blue]

Lol. Nothing brilliant about this dude.

[@blackout07blue]

@@YourLocalCopiumDealer Lol. No, they’re not. They’re strawman arguments.

[@willmayhew5783]

John McWhorter is also an accomplished linguist and has a fantastic podcast series on linguistic issues. But he is dead right on these cultural issues too. We need more McWhorters.

[@GiratinaofFury]

People playing the victim trivialises those who have genuinely suffered. Being a victim shouldn't be weaponised. All it does it disenfranchise those who once had sympathy towards you. Fight oppression, but don't become the oppressor.

[@uttcftptid4481]

I completely agree with the overarching point of the conversation, but this guy is a bit of a contradiction. First he treats all African Americans as a monolith and makes strange broad generalizations about the entire black community, and then in the same breath he goes on to talk about all the diversity within said community. I understand that two things don't necessarily have to be mutually exclusive, but some of the things he said seemed to contradict other things. Now I have to get the guy's book to figure out exactly where he's coming from. He is a good salesman, I'll give him that : ) My personal view is that we need to get back on the path to judging each individual solely by the content of their character instead of leaning into arbitrary racial differences that none of us have any control over.

[@clootscalhoun9481]

Now I’m sorry to say I’ve never heard of this gentleman before. Truly brilliant and simple. The world would be a better place if there were more people like him. Black or white.

[@victoriadias4179]

I am SO glad to see John McWhorter on this show. His voice is incredibly important these days, helping to cut through the nonsense we’re being bombarded with and make some sense of the insanity. (Along with Glenn Loury and Coleman Hughes) Love these guys, and am so grateful to them and to whoever provides them a platform for dropping truth bombs! Thank you Bill!

[@whatwouldjohngaltdo1409]

Yes John McWhorter is exactly who we need! So Glad Bill had him on!

[@jackadoni]

he makes you feel better right?

[@Nashawkeye]

@@jackadoni He should make all of us feel better. He's an educated, logical, honest black man speaking his mind.

[@whatwouldjohngaltdo1409]

Yes he does! Real intellectuals tend to have that effect on me.

[@lh485208]

Got a feeling its gonna be a long day on Twitter for him. Great stuff John.

[@blackout07blue]

Lmao. This interview was all strawman arguments.

[@lh485208]

@@blackout07blue who does he think he is being black and not having the opinion you told him to have? Your racism is showing

[@harivatsaparameshwaran4174]

@@blackout07blue Claiming that an interview is full of strawman arguments and spamming that as a reply to literally every comment is not an argument. Point out the strawman and make your argument against it.

[@mlovmo]

@@blackout07blue Explain.

[@uhuihi_uihiuh]

@@blackout07blue You keep saying that but I don't think you know what it means.

[@JETstudiosinc]

Probably one the best guests in a very long time

[@saveriopersichilli1129]

Bill maher is slowly maturing into a centrist and he doesn't even realize it.

[@ForNoOne1]

Na. The left is becoming more extreme. Classic liberals are just as annoyed by it as conservatives are. As a liberal, seeing people waving communist flags and reducing everything to identity politics makes me want to gag.

[@rogggggerful]

It is not left or hard left.. it is the regressive left vs the progessive left..real progressives are for freedom of speech, always

[@deadeaded]

Nah, he's solidly on the left.

[@missano3856]

@@ForNoOne1 Especially when identity politics would be anathema to any actual communist.

[@TheAstraeuss]

@@ForNoOne1 Who's waiving communist flags? So you identify everyone on the left as extremists? What if I identified everyone on the right as racist white supremacists QAnon believers? It's the same thing...The squeaky wheel gets the grease I guess huh...

[@wb6162]

Holy shit, he doesn't look 55. I was thinking 35.

[@josiahrambally771]

Honestly he looks 55

[@YourLocalCopiumDealer]

@@josiahrambally771 Shush. Let us simp for John. The man is amazing.

[@theminister1154]

@@josiahrambally771 47.

[@TheRzarectah]

That’s rough 35 then lmaoo

[@russiasvechenaya58]

He looks like mid 40s. Def not 35

[@bmiller9456]

I first got to know McWhorter through his scholarship. This just adds a whole new level of my respect for him.

[@dlsamson]

"You are wearing your belt too high" is a phrase I sometimes use. The derivation goes like this: Do you remember how as a child we were taught that it is not nice to hit someone "below the belt?" How do we deal with people who wear their belts above their ears? When we take offense at words, we are giving power to the offender. The only requirement for action is when those words motivate negative action. The best defense against that is often to just credit stupid words as being indicative of the intelligence of their source. There is no need for moving to action unless stupid people follow stupid words with stupid actions. At that point one should act promptly, all the while pointing out the stupidity.

[@macnico9987]

I love it

[@bluesbros620]

Ibram Kendi is a fool.

[@kenelliott6897]

yes! Yes!, YES!

[@alementary4065]

And a dangerous, polemicist fool at that. In the same vein as certain Germanic propagandists from the 30s and 40s.

[@RickKasten]

He has a PhD and has written multiple New York Times best selling books, but yeah go ahead and call him a fool, Random KZbin Commenter

[@bluesbros620]

@@RickKasten He openly states that the remedy for past descrimination is for present descrimination. PhD or not, that is toxic and regressive... which makes him a fool

[@alementary4065]

@@RickKasten and Jill Biden has a doctorate. Means nothing.

[@BrianSmith-fk3io]

Thomas Sowell pointed out in great detail why Black Americans are behind the 8 Ball. It has nothing to do with their skin tone, slavery, but everything to do with adopting and maintaining a culture the encourages laziness, dependency, deliberate ignorance, violence, and thuggish behaviors. Which he was able to trace back to certain areas of the British Isles where those cultural norms were common and where white ancestors of some of those in the south came from, blacks merely adopted it... However, if they want to remain behind and continue to live on the plantation of the left; I'm all for it, just stop the accusation games, because I'm white and NOT holding them back at all....If they want a race war, bring it on, I'll be on the front lines armed and ready. I'm sick of this devisiveness!

[@kt798]

Nobody can represent everybody. I feel there's certain ideas you just have to ignore in life.

[@justincoughenour4123]

Man, common sense isn't as common as we all hoped. Thank you sir for your work and effort. You're an exceptional person who more people should listen to

[@lizp5004]

If y'all like this, you should watch/listen to his wkly podcast w/Glenn Loury. It's on bloggingheads. Ok çTV, but they also post clips &/or the full ep. on KZbin. Definitely would recommend: 10/10👌🏼

[@537monster]

It’s so refreshing to see someone not take a compliment on stage. I don’t know why, I just like it when somebody is willing to be humble for once in front of a crowd.

[@njits789]

'I'm a failed lawyer.' Right?

[@gregg9694]

@4 Lights There Are The other part is that the media lied and blamed Trump for anything and everything

[@diannespery3194]

Was disappointed this clip was so short. Please put up the entire interview. It deserves to be heard via this platform.

[@oceania2385]

McWhorter and Glenn Loury have a regular show on "blogging heads TV" on youtube. They're both brilliant have amazing insight.

[@glimmrgirl]

kzbin.info/aero/PLNKMRlDojbRLXTsiamlNOG_2_b2EY_4ki

[@peterporkeresq.2817]

_Glad Bill finally found his African American._

[@jenisejackson5408]

😀

[@peterporkeresq.2817]

@@jenisejackson5408 Every man needs his African American.

[@isaactaylor5531]

Content of Character comes in All colors ... So does the lack of it.... Most of the ones who lack it.... Are the ones the question other peoples.... Integrity is an another one.....

[@isaactaylor5531]

@Kaneki Ken Martin Luther King was and still is a great MAN.... I think white people have been the ones who have been the main reason of this sorry situation because have lacked it.... Don't be like them.. charachter& integrity are attainable by anybody... Treat people the way U want to be treated... To much breaking of the Golden rule.... Assuming can be one way of not attaining those good attributes... I'll try support ANYBODY who has these... I'm with Rev Luther... How do U want to be judged?....

[@Nashawkeye]

@@isaactaylor5531 Certain white people have and others haven't. White people are not a monolith.

[@isaactaylor5531]

@@Nashawkeye History has shown us that whoever has the power... Its of their mchivillian instincts Not to treat people the way they want to be treated... Empathy is obtained sometimes by putting yourself in someone else's shoes... Objectified love cuts an Ugly swath at times?....

[@blackout07blue]

Strawman 101

[@isaactaylor5531]

@@blackout07blue poop maggot 82...what does that mean??...

[@cassiecat7038]

Should have gone on longer; I follow John he’s phenomenal, a light in the darkness of today with wokeism

[@et4493]

What a smart man. We need more people willing to openly say things like this

[@couscous4096]

First time I have come across this person. Fantastic mind. PS. I am a white grumpy old man living in the UK.

[@UltraPoseidon]

I really wanna see McWhorter debate someone like Te-Nashi Coates. I think that dialogue like that would be very healthy.

[@empty_cognizance2234]

They actually talked for nearly an hour about 3 and a half years ago on the bloggingheads channel. Just search "Coates McWhorter" and it'll probably be in the first few. The vid quality's slightly rough though.

[@blackout07blue]

@@empty_cognizance2234 McWorter looked like an idiot when he did.

[@blackout07blue]

McWorter is just a bunch of strawman arguments.

[@HighlyActiveFarms]

Yoo Maher and McWhorter hell yeah! John has very quickly become one of my favorite intellectual speakers 🙌

[@blackout07blue]

Lmao. This entire convo was strawman arguments.

[@blackout07blue]

@Lee Y pot meet kettle.

[@robr.5044]

It is good to know that many people are starting to see through this idea and others of its kind.

[@Hirohito_iLoveYou]

It’s all crumbling down

[@micki0finn430]

I love John Mcwhorter. Edit: I love his use for "White Fragility".

[@micki0finn430]

@ Yes, it is extremely racist which is why he said the only use for that book is to prop up a wobbly table.

[@akp167]

When is Bill Maher going to invite Glenn Loury on? That'll be the day the audience actually hears some common sense that they so obviously lack.

[@alementary4065]

Jesus, yes! Glenn is up there with Thomas Sowell and Jordan Peterson, IMO.

[@karldunnegan2689]

@@alementary4065 Jordan Peterson!!??... Holy shit what a pseudointellectual meathead.

[@stimproid]

@@karldunnegan2689 ....just because you can't understand what he says.....

[@alementary4065]

@@karldunnegan2689 ok, Karen. You've obviously never even listened to him, or you wouldn't utter such a submoronically dipshit statement.

[@alementary4065]

Did your gender study professor tell you he was a mean, bad man?

[@markkerr204]

I can't believe I am just finding out about McWhorter now. I feel the exact same way as Bill does when it comes to John. He's a hero whether he realizes it or not. Not because he's black, but because he's willing to speak his mind and reflect deeply on complicated topics. Even if it makes him unpopular.

[@piconano]

Bring him back and on to the panel. I love this guy.

[@planetscorpio8147]

This interview could have been 5 hours long and I would have loved it. So refreshing to hear an actual diverse voice from a black man and not just a pity party for one.

[@aslansalive]

If you enjoyed this conversation give a listen to The Glenn Show sometime. It's John McWhorter and Glenn Loury. Educated, credentialed, experienced.. one conservative, one liberal. It comes out every other week and is something i look forward to every episode. I owe them a great deal for expanding my point of view.

[@planetscorpio8147]

@@aslansalive Thanks for that. I'll track it down and check it out 😊

[@Ruprect44]

@@planetscorpio8147 There is a recent interview here on YT that Mr McWhorter did with ReasonTV as well. Well worth your time.

[@kellybanks3832]

SO HAPPY TO SEE THIS MAN GETTING AIR TIME! Old School intellectual

[@estebanmolina6456]

I hate how sheepish crowds are. These same people would clap for the “White Fragility” author if she was the very next guest.

[@jenisejackson5408]

Bill Maher would never have D'Angelo on his show.

[@TheMack671]

I used to think only the Fox News viewers were reprogrammable meatbags. I guess Bill has them too.

[@estebanmolina6456]

@@jenisejackson5408 uhhhm, yes he would.

[@estebanmolina6456]

@@TheMack671 lol. A large percentage of all news viewers, no matter what station, left or right, are incredibly programmable. That’s why every news station does it. If you think it’s just Fox and not CNN and MSNBC too, then you need to wake up