John Wick Chapter 4 - Spoilers Discussion!

[@pindot787]

The things with Donnie Yen stabbing john right hand, is so John could not use his dominant more accurate hands against donnie, so john is FORCED to use his left hands. its actually establishing that john is more accurate shooter than donnie if he is able to use his right hands. so it is to even the odds.

[@kbrewers]

Keanu is left handed though, pretty sure

[@pindot787]

@@kbrewers But John Wick as character is right handed, you can see john wick mostly held his gun in his right hand.

[@kbrewers]

@@pindot787 ya you are right. i read that after looking up what hand Keanu Reeves is, that he shoots right. Maybe he is still naturally left handed, but everything is made for right handed people haha. But i would imagine for someone as skilled as John Wick, it dont matter if he is left handed or not. I think that the shots on both Caine and John at the end were done on purpose to get the Marquee in the dual so the last bullet could be used.

[@Revan-eb1wb]

​@@pindot787 not true. John wick and keanu are both left handed. In the first john wick, he writes with his left hand. Keanu just uses his right when shooting

[@pindot787]

@@Revan-eb1wb then john wick is better shooter with his right hand. thus hurting his right hand is handicapped him.

[@ImpactTurns]

The scenes of the dog being saved were always met with applause in the theater and John falling down the stairs had the theater cracking up.

[@nextgencombodrop378]

I can feel that scene JW falling down all the way to the stairs is gonna be a future meme 😅

[@joshualagrimas9555]

This movie is just meme potential. xD

[@jordijordi6846]

Just watched it an my theater rected the same

[@raven-0621]

when he fell down I was actually like "ooooooooof"

[@y2j1490yahoo]

Scene was terrible , made a bad movie into a comedy. John falls 4 times that would be instant death and stands up. Dog gets smacked by a car full force and stands up and is fine.

[@err0r2]

The Hotline Miami scene was a blast

[@kbrewers]

it was a "Fiery Blast" haha

[@the_jones528]

I was flipping shit the whole time, that was just way too fucking good

[@throbbingwiener6218]

That scene was hype af

[@GermanEnigma]

The over the top muzzle flash is inspired by The Hong Kong Massacre, another top down shooter with 1 hit kills and slow mo action from John Woo films.

[@dootslayer3907]

I was giddy as a school girl ngl. Been a while since I got so hyped. That shot was epic.

[@joshualagrimas9555]

I just can't get over that Top down Dragon's breath shotgun scene, the continuity and flow of that is nothing short but flawless, especially done by someone whose almost in there 60's, We should all feel blessed by the dedication keanu and the stuntman and the camera crew have been working on, this film is just pure kickass at a high degree.

[@cleansent]

Best scene in my opinion possibly in the whole series

[@sumstuff6956]

​@Karasuza_soraI'm wiv u that scene is possibly better than oxygen

[@mrmusickhimself]

Scott Adkins as "Killa" was like if Nikocado Avocado was given a DLC slot in Street Fighter 6. I love that they tease him as the cowardly sort -- only for him to start flying around like Rufus or Bob from Tekken.

[@colten53]

His character was like a Russian version of Kingpin from Daredevil and that was really cool. Hell, there’s an awful lot of Daredevil inspiration in this movie and it’s awesome

[@mariocollisionmaker]

I thought the Killa fight was excellent, the whole theater was shocked when he started beating tf out of John.

[@Riverfilly153]

My favorite scene of the movie. Adkin’s deranged performance was such a fun presence. The villains are just as fun as our main characters in this one, similarly to the first movie.

[@tylerdordon99]

he dresses up exactly like Sammo Hung in SPL which also starred Donnie Yen.

[@Aemond2024]

He was German tho he had beef w the Russians ​@@colten53

[@ZinalaG59]

Caine doing the IP man punches for a moment was so sick to see

[@ScrewedUpEssay95]

*Caine

[@ZinalaG59]

@@ScrewedUpEssay95 damn autocorrect

[@gameskyjumper1721]

The way you typed it gave me a good laugh. It's Ip-Man. Not IP man. But yeah that was dope.

[@ZinalaG59]

@@gameskyjumper1721 it’s the same shit you bozo 🤣🤣

[@JustSendMeLocation]

@@gameskyjumper1721you gotta be trolling 😂

[@mediodes]

My take is on the movement sensor bell is that the Japanese are very stealth and discreet in their movement, so Caine needs those doorbells to track them.

[@zuriyel5368]

Yeah, they were walking very carefully and quietly. While the others that Caine faced made all sorts of noises.

[@Garo.11]

That makes sense. Good call.

[@domesticpandaclan6786]

they didnt wanted to use brain or used way too much to not understand the characters and world, nobody doesn't wanted to look like aly of john wick, if he killed cain he would be scene as aly in Osaka. Cain would be free only if he kills the wick and tracker wants more money so they were helping him in club scene,

[@kityuan8845]

Exactly, they are trained ninjas.

[@TheFatalcrest]

I actually didn't consider it, I thought it was so he basically had knowledge of his front line and which way they moved so he knows which direction he might have to account for. But everyone else he fights is active and not sneaky at all

[@domingorubies656]

They didn’t show a cold body. They showed him losing consciousness then they show a gravestone and the two guys talking , dude’s alive. In these type of franchises you need to see the body. Also if you want it all to end you don’t continue the story in a post credit scene. Unless they want to pass the baton to Donnie Yen. Which would be awesome as well.

[@InQuickWeTrust]

Why would he fake his death AFTER all that shit he was finally free lmao! Wouldn’t you fake your death when the whole world is trying to murder you?

[@aarongutierrez7705]

A Donnie yen epilogue (just one movie) would be perfect and I hope just that happens

[@JohnnyNada]

I think the after credits will have to do with the spinoff. John wick had his finale and now it's time to expand the universe. But I could be wrong

[@domingorubies656]

@@JohnnyNada a Donnie Yen spinoff would be cool also. With Mr. Nobody. They’re also doing Ballerina.

[@Swolidarity]

What if a whole other spin off franchise happens with Caine lmao that would be awesome, I swear you can make like several spin offs with the characters of this series

[@MD0093]

In the end when John shot the dude in the head “consequences” we all clapped our asses off

[@depress0coffee]

Same thing happened in ours. We all cheered and laughed.

[@KayKayEnd]

Same here!

[@fredothedestroyer153]

why cant yall just stfu and watch the movie that shtis annoying asf

[@trevorclinton5692]

My theatre went nuts. Also Mr nobody's gun sounded absolutely punchy in the dolby theater

[@Cooler7328]

key and peele would be proud!

[@Darth_Arashi]

When John kept falling in the stairs is a great metaphor for life as well 😂 when you have friends they help you climb

[@tor3699]

The top-down shooting scene with the dragon's breath shotty with no cuts was my favorite part of the movie

[@josephkato6678]

This ending feels like the ending of Cowboy Bebop, people can always interpret the story's conclusion in their own way.

[@DoBap_]

Keanu is a big fan of Bebop, and it’s clearly what they were going for. Which, the endings to both this AND Bebop really left an impact on me, so hats off to them I guess 😛

[@JobinH]

The ending with him going down the stairs felt like Bebop

[@Joe-jc5ol]

I am 99% sure he is dead, the story ended perfectly. It would be very contrived if he is not. Why would they fake his death?

[@yerxiong123]

@@Joe-jc5ol so they won’t come after him anymore. You can’t escape the high table even if you’re retired. Best to fake your death

[@jdfoster23]

@@Joe-jc5ol they can’t kill you if you are “dead”, probably so anyone who wants to avenge anyone John has killed won’t go looking for him since they assume he’s dead.

[@meetparmar4494]

the cinematography and action choreography were amazing. Especially the shot of sunrise over Paris before the final duel reminded me why we go to the theatres to watch these movies

[@tylerdordon99]

thought the movie had amazing cinematography except for that climatic duel which looked so bad.

[@sutediheriyonoBaladMaUng]

@@tylerdordon99 what make it so bad?

[@tylerdordon99]

@@sutediheriyonoBaladMaUng fake lighting. Green screen. Notice how the light comes from a different direction in every other shot. It looks ugly overall compared to the rest of the movie. They also should've went with a duel with swords as it would make more senese since Caine is blind. Besides JW has never had a sword fight in any of the films (not sure though).

[@hoodiepen]

The producers must’ve loved Donnie Yen’s character in Rogue One that they carried his blind-man fighting techniques here.

[@Jwokii]

Can we talk about how act 3 of the movie was pretty much a Warriors reference and I LOVED IT!?

[@giacomogotta2253]

I thought "ok, they're just copying the DJ from the warriors". They she put on Nowhere to Run and i was happy

[@ChrisDeebo]

Soon as he pulled out the Dragon Breath shotgun, theater went nuts

[@BigMoneyChink]

I got so hyped 🤯

[@necroaeon]

When the DJ came on, I was like "huh, small Warriors reference, that's cool." Then they put on Nowhere To Run and you see everybody gearing up. I got SO GODDAMB HYPED 🤣🤣

[@justinalvarez2331]

Bro that was such a genius reference... I'm surprised more people didn't get that.. I loved that part

[@ace52387]

this is the only western action movie that feels as whimsical and fun as an old school hong kong or thai movie. its not too serious, and ridiculously creative. cane doorbell devices, fat adkins being an asthmatic tae kwon do master, and the video game scene. the first john wick movie is still my favorite, but they definitely got more comfortable with adding whimsy and comedy to the action as the series went on.

[@johnt84]

The birds eye view action sequence was incredible. Reminded me of the game "John Wick Hex" haha🔥

[@iamBlackGambit]

You talking bout when he was going room to room like metal gear solid right?..freaking amazing, and it went on for a good while I was pleasantly surprised 😮

[@johnt84]

@@iamBlackGambit shit was wild hahah... Hell yeah

[@milesinwyatteandcora]

Metal gear movie the director better take notes 😂

[@JoeGrizz1y]

A lot of the “dumb” aspect of Donnie’s character actually make sense in a hyper exaggerated way. If you realize, he is completely quiet when he fights. Knowing that he needs to listen to the movement, metal, and sounds of those he is fighting. I’m pretty sure there is also scenes where he actually misses and at times unloads half a clip at nobody, which comes across funny but you know he is blind. Even the dual at the end makes sense cause all he has to do is shoot straight. And through the acting and lines, you know Caine realizes he is dead as he is blind. He has no sounds to determine during a standing western duel. That’s why he is shocked when he thinks he won the dual, recognizing John never shot before we learn that. He doesn’t need eyes lol.

[@Raytheus]

I felt the ending to be poignant but also believe that John Wick may still be alive since we never see his body. Even Winston never gives a definite answer to the King's query. Moreover, this way, he is off the table's radar for good so that they never find him even with the business between them concluded.

[@kbrewers]

I feel like from when Winston said goodbye to John after the King left his side, that Winston thinks, to me, that he is in fact dead. But the King could know if he is still alive, wouldnt be the first time. And lastly I think that Mr Nobody is Charon's son. I cant shake that feeling. Mr Nobody could have brought him out of his injury if they decide to bring Keanu back.

[@josephkato6678]

I don't think John will leave his dog to the King if he's alive though. The ending was abrupt and ambiguous, hopefully the directors cut will provide a better conclusion.

[@kbrewers]

@@josephkato6678 Or its just for appearances though. John didnt have his dog for the whole movie so maybe the King was just dogsitting the whole movie ha

[@InQuickWeTrust]

He’s dead. Ending was disappointing asf.

[@domingorubies656]

@@InQuickWeTrust no body was shown. Convenient. This is a massive franchise, Donnie Yen’s issue with the Daughter is also not resolved. There will be a 5th.

[@spooty75]

Regarding John and Akira ending up at the same station - that was already John's way out, Koji told him to go there after rescuing her

[@themarcshark]

I'm actually pretty satisfied if this is the end of the John Wick saga. I just don't see how they can keep topping themselves after this movie. It's great for the franchise to go out on top. This way the quadrilogy will be remembered forever for it's unwavering quality

[@erkii]

there is absolutely NO way John died from a gunshot wound to the arm, shoulder trap, and side of the torso. None of which are any major organs. He has received way worse damage in the past and got up to live again. The ending was left ambiguous on purpose, even the ending of the chapter 4 itself didn't feel emotional. John isn't dead, but for the sake of the movies, personal plans of the actors, writers and producers and the studio - its been left open ended. So, if the fans really want a 5th, there shall be one.

[@themarcshark]

@@erkii agreed. It was definitely left open. Tho I really don't want the day to come when I leave a John Wick movie and say "it was meh, it's getting old". Law of diminishing returns is inevitable

[@erkii]

@@themarcshark it wouldnt be the case if now John is the one doing the hunting. Instead of being the hunted - Its time he went for the high table as ghost

[@Garo.11]

​@@erkii I like the way you think. Yes he was supposed to be the hunter in this film but got dragged back to being the hunted. F that he needs to go after everyone that makes the calls at the high table.

[@erkii]

@mrpickles3 Not unless the story requires John to come back. Don't forget, they're expanding that whole universe. It doesn't make sense to kill the main character, in which the series is based out of. He will be there to make appearances at the very least.

[@dxnes5067]

absolutely loved this movie. scott adkins was surprising. loved his performance

[@kbrewers]

the fat suit was a great idea, moved so well. Recognize him from movie covers, but i havent seen much of his work. Did fantastic action and character

[@domingorubies656]

@@kbrewers check him out in Undisputed 2 , 3 an 4. He’s crazy good in those.

[@oaktree1626]

​@@domingorubies656 Avengement is an amazing movie

[@firstlast9846]

His acting was way better too.

[@kbrewers]

@@domingorubies656 Thats where i seen his face before. my little brother was a fan of those movies. i should def check it out

[@intersubjective7129]

The issue with Mr Nobody bargaining for money was that he was essentially asking for double the amount he said with “My reward and a match contribution to my 401k. Marquis confirms this later when he says “you will have your reward and pension”. So at the end when the contract is 40 Mil, for Mr Nobody it’s actually 80 mil.

[@domesticpandaclan6786]

they didnt wanted to use brain or used way too much to not understand the characters and world, nobody doesn't wanted to look like aly of john wick, if he killed cain he would be scene as aly in Osaka. Cain would be free only if he kills the wick and tracker wants more money so they were helping him in club scene,

[@TheFatalcrest]

Ahhh yeah I forgot about that bargain, I thought he was upping it because he's like "hey I'm close to John, I'm watching him, but now that I'm here.....35. Or I will help him get out of here until it hits 40"

[@NeoGuyver2]

They forgot about the bad ass part with mr. Nobody when he pulled the vest from behind and equipment like a badass.

[@moneyman123212]

That dragons breath scene where the camera goes top view like hotline Miami MY GOD freaking awesome

[@depress0coffee]

They missed out on playing a track from Hotline Miami during that part - would of been a nice like callback

[@trevorclinton5692]

@@depress0coffee I literally would have unironically nutted. Imagine carpenter brut or pertubator in a wick movie

[@jesus1021]

I loved Caine's character, you can tell he was almost as good as John Wick and I am glad they didn't kill him off, maybe to comeback in a fifth and final movie.

[@pavelderyagin5099]

I guess you haven't stayed for after credits scene :D

[@niick_3523]

@@pavelderyagin5099 you really think a little knife will kill him, hes gonna dodge that

[@hisham031170]

Yes, he's literally the Daredevil.

[@silvergate963]

@@pavelderyagin5099 Caine literally dodge bullets, he can handle a small knife

[@TheMabDarogan]

@@niick_3523 he's taken off guard and he hasn't really got a reason think they won't allow him to see his daughter since the French guy dead

[@GermanEnigma]

Fans should file an official petition to Lionsgate to release the original cut of 3 hours and 45 minutes for the home video release.

[@justifano7046]

It's actually just 1 more hour of John wick falling down the stairs

[@yukijadenfilms3425]

@@justifano7046 I’d watch it

[@justinwilliams2522]

There was a part in the movie it started to feel like a video game. Which was cool.

[@yoda301]

Dude was looting every dead body for ammo like a game 😂

[@KidKingdomHearts]

The drifting shot is what did it for me

[@itsthenunez]

Chad Stahelski is definitely a gamer. This movie proved that lol

[@RainyDayBlue8]

@@itsthenunez one of the writers of this and the last movie is in his 20s. And you can can also tell lol

[@marvinzenit658]

The whole chase through the city felt like John was playing Arcade Mode Felt like the Hardest Mission of the game, the one before the final fight, like many games like to do

[@T.O.Wallee]

Best john wick movie yet. I’ve watched and couldn’t rest in cinema. It’s damn worth the money for 2hrs and 40 minutes.

[@hartleydavidson7316]

The bounty should have been way higher. Should have been at least $500M by the end of the movie

[@InQuickWeTrust]

Right? I kept saying wtf only 24 million?

[@TheAwesomeDarkNinja]

I think the Table isn't as rich as one might think. Even the Marquis was hesitant on making Wick more than $20 million.

[@katra777]

@@TheAwesomeDarkNinja they have to be when we have billionaires walking the Earth.

[@KidKingdomHearts]

@Dick Izzinya likely something like a trust situation for the assets. So it’s a group ownership in a way that a bunch of “pretty” high wealth people pool money that funds the system and assets. TLDR: they can blow up assets and just rebuild them cause compound interest and pool equity.

[@SexyButCurious]

Exactly he's killed so many ppl

[@KevBoy3D]

The Tracker using a very tacti-cool lever action was my favorite element of the film

[@xxcaqxx]

As for the ending of whether or not John is dead, on top of asking if he's in heaven or hell and not knowing, John's dog looks alerted off screen before King takes him away. Something to note.

[@Stuntman707]

I liked the mr. Nobody character. He added a whole other dynamic to the story. “I’m not negotiating, that’s the price. You pay for my services”, “Not looking good for you if John makes it to the duel” And then he’s actively helping John until they accept his price. But I think John misunderstands his motives and saves his dog and suddenly mr. Nobody saves his ass on the stairs because of the dog.

[@jbt.395]

I also quite liked the character and found him so badass. But I can't help to think that he was pretty much used as a deus ex machina throughout the movie. And if you would remove him from it, it wouldn't have changed that much to the story as his purpose wasn't that interesting to me (since it wasn't even explained anyway) And I find it so annoying because I loved this character and found his intentions cool but not that interesting 😕 (like Craine's and Koji's cases, you already know their stakes as they're shown quite explicitly)

[@mtgleam8723]

@@jbt.395 I saw him as sort of a reflection to John Wick and Caine. Mr. Nobody is young, he's an up and coming assassin. Meanwhile, Caine and John are old, and too deep to get out. It shows what they were before they got locked in the cage.

[@StadiumHandz]

Fresh out of a IMAX theater, was a bit long but action packed in each scene 1-3. Felt like they should have lead it off with jw leaving the mantle off to someone else. Need more fun films like this coming from Hollywood

[@domingorubies656]

Did you see the post credit scene. Donnie Yen has the mantle now.

[@j0eyhz620]

@@domingorubies656 oh bruhhhhh there a after credits scene😭😭😭 I gotta go back

[@j0eyhz620]

And maybe a bit long but idk, every action scene I was captivated and having fun and felt was paced perfectly to where I wasn’t ever bored

[@maxim196]

​@@domingorubies656 That ....was not the point of that scene at all

[@nemesisundead83]

I was half expecting John to redirect a RPG with his foot this movie was nuts

[@The_Black_Falchion]

The significance of John not taking the shot was that the Marque wasn’t allowed to shoot him, since the previous round wasn’t over. Had he shot him he’d have forfeited the duel for breaking the rules.

[@champblaze]

If they do a John Wick 5. I would like to see a prequel. Show how John met his wife and how he got out.

[@Jimanderson124]

They may do it, but i feel like they used and abused (literally) him in the film.. I don’t know if keanu will be comfortable doing his early self with his physical presence now. They have to use stunt double for faster John. He was pretty slow due to age and the team really tried to not make him lose much breath

[@VykeKing]

Or you know, they could just stop making movies.. That's good too

[@BrandonBlume]

Regarding him putting on a voice, I've noticed that since the first movie. His cadence and the way he holds onto syllables and drags it out in that low husky voice. He's done it through all 4 films. I didn't notice a difference myself between them.

[@JoeMama-rd1gu]

For some reason for me in this one it took me out every time he talked. In the opening when asked if he’s ready. He turns around and says “YEeeAAH” I was like 🤨😂 his delivery and dialogue in this was just off putting idk. still 10/10 overall tho

[@BrandonBlume]

@@JoeMama-rd1gu Fair enough!

[@surjay5633]

For when they talking about Mr nobody not killing John even at 30 million, in his notebook it makes it clear that his goal is 50 mil and with that deal he could get 20 million from the bounty and 30 million from the deal with the marque

[@CinematicTendency]

While John Wick 2 is my least favorite movie in the franchise (it’s still a very good movie and love it) one of the things I appreciate about it is the introduction of the bullet proof suits. From my point of view these suits also absorb impact (like from the bullets, for instance) thus Wick surviving hits from cars and falls. However, there was a scene where Wick hit his face from a high fall and still made it. So, while my theory doesn’t fully explain why/how he survives mortal falls, I still think it kinda “explains” something. Thoughts?

[@Vsmug]

I think it’s some supernatural thing wick has bc of how many ppl he killed kinda like Michael myers

[@darkgamersupreme2348]

@@Vsmug lmfao

[@slokane]

I think john wick is just neo in another matrix

[@lon242]

I think he's always been highly resistant to fall damage. Even before 2's armored suits, he took a nasty fall in the first movie's club scene. It may not be as painful as landing on his face, but it'd still seriously injure any normal dude. He did have to recover from that one (sssss.... ahhhh), but he was OK lol

[@notxvexorr4379]

Suspension of disbelief

[@pyrodave6407]

Unlike most sequels john wick has gotten better with every movie. This is the best one yet

[@hisham031170]

How it's getting better? It's more like Fast & Furious now.

[@pyrodave6407]

Fast n furious movies have been trash since the second one. John wick movies actually progress John's story and the action fighting gets better. This is the last one if they make more they will ruin the series

[@hisham031170]

@@pyrodave6407 this time they make John Wick the Deadpool vs Kaine the Daredevil. If you don’t mind suspension of disbelief, John Wick 4 really suits you.

[@pyrodave6407]

The blind guy being a top assassin on wicks level was a bit far fetched but I know it's a movie and I enjoy it the most out of the 4

[@hisham031170]

@@pyrodave6407 yes, so far fetched, unless Kaine has heightened sense like Daredevil.

[@VengD]

A pet peeve of mine, are cars in movies just honking and keeping on driving when people are in the road. Not trying to evade or stop. I fucking haaated the fight in the Arc de Triomphe :P

[@johndesantis2863]

There will likely be a sequel portraying Donnie’s past and how it led up to this movie.

[@CookiesOnaMilkyRiver]

The dog pissing on homeboys face 😂😂😂

[@eazymacc725]

I've NEVER seen Joe cut off OJ and Alex so much that they didn't even get to finish a sentence!!! Joe: "OK, you guys talk" OJ: "Well I thought...." Joe: "Yeah, whatever, so Blah blah blah! Now Alex, what did you think?" Alex: "My opinion was...." Joe: " Whatever so back to me" I would've got up and went home and did my own review 😅

[@chriscee3981]

I think Alex will do that at some point. I'd listen

[@sergiovardanyan4285]

you must be new here

[@jw1714]

Good thing it’s his channel then huh. Most people started watching for Joe and still come for joes opinion

[@sergiovardanyan4285]

@@jw1714 my thoughts exactly

[@mattwagnermovies6308]

Easy 10/10 for me, best action film I’ve ever seen.

[@InQuickWeTrust]

I say 9/10 I just didn’t like the ending. Action was for sure 10/10 though and the cinematography/directing.

[@domingorubies656]

@@InQuickWeTrust he’s alive, no body was shown.

[@InQuickWeTrust]

@@domingorubies656 You wish man. Why would they make a part 5? You can’t up the stakes any higher from what you just watched

[@Sqlfox]

@@InQuickWeTrust They literally announced it before Chapter 4 was even in post-production.

[@Acane_Vision]

@@InQuickWeTrust they announced a part 5 along with 4 after parabellum came out lmao

[@morphineod8785]

Choosing a blindman as a duelling champion is hilariously stupid. Did he just sort of forget that Caine was blind?

[@High_Key]

Dragon Breath rounds seen from a Birds Eye perspective in what looked like a single shot take…I put that up there with some of the best action sequences of all time. Loved the Osaka Continental fight scene and the club fight scene with Scott Adkins. This movie just knows its audience so well…the whole audience in my theater winced when he got kicked and shoved off the stairs on his way to the final duel.

[@roguedoge2479]

John Wicks TTI JW4 Pit Viper is actually a real gun you can buy for $7,000. I hear it really is the best handgun ever made, and for $7,000 it ought to be. Also Lance Reddick (The Concierge) died of natural causes March 17th, RIP.

[@deljonfinister3598]

The first act when John shot that mercenary through the bullet proof glass until it broke. And then walked through it and continued to shoot him was so cold 🥶. The 2nd act when they just did a sat down was my 2nd favorite scene❤. And then the third act when John literally did donuts till every last one of them was dead made my night. I can't explain how much I love that scene

[@darrenkimble5672]

The bow and arrows, aside from looking awesome, were weapons that could penetrate their bulletproof armor. It actually makes perfect sense if you don’t have powerful rifles

[@itsmemanny5826]

The staircase scene made me laugh more than it should of. he just kept rolling down the stairs perfectly

[@MrJuiceize]

I need the next movie to be Akira going after Caine. They did a great job setting up many interesting branches for the future.

[@Vauhnn]

i disagree with the comment that donnie yen has pin point accuracy. they literally show him throughout the movie blind firing all the time at where he knows people are

[@eternalbeing3339]

For a blind man he does have pinpoint accuracy. Shooting a moving target with no sight is nearly impossible.

[@luigiwiiUU]

@@eternalbeing3339 He's just that good, if he had sight he would be twice as powerful as John Wick lol

[@Vauhnn]

@@eternalbeing3339 and that goes right back to "no shit its a john wick movie"

[@GG-bi8tb]

doesn't he mostly miss with the gun and kill everybody with his sword?

[@zuriyel5368]

He requires a lot more shots than John Wick to kill his targets bcos of his inaccuracy due to his blindness/

[@kbrewers]

Prediction: Mr Nobody, or the Tracker, guy with the dog, all the same person, is Charon's son. Out for vengence for the high table in the next trilogy

[@TimmySquibs]

Too cliche and easy for that to be a actual plot point. Lol just cause they’re both black?

[@kbrewers]

@@TimmySquibs No because it would make for a great fuckin story. There is no reason for the tracker to be in this film otherwise.

[@TimmySquibs]

@@kbrewers wdym there’s no reason for tracker to be in the film? He had his motives already he doesn’t need to be tied to a existing character for his arc to work. Making him Charons son is just lazy and cliche

[@kbrewers]

@@TimmySquibs Name one reason the tracker is in the film that is substantial to the plot? The only thing he did was demand the bounty go up in price. And he had a dog.

[@kbrewers]

@@TimmySquibs I am suggesting a way of incorporating him into the overall story of this franchise, being the son of a beloved character and Lance Reddick the actor. Im not saying oh because he is black, that is lazy. I think there is a great story there to tell.

[@GoalieOfUnholy]

You guys are complaining about the people dancing not reacting to gunfire, when the exact same thing happened in the first film.

[@Raytheus]

Whilst I LOVE the movie, I could not understand Mr. Hiroyuki's death. I understand him valuing his brotherhood and friendship but when Donnie Yen spares him, the former basically commits suicide, leaving his daughter injured, helpless and potentially next on the chopping block when she tries to avenge her father. Everything else, I can more or less try to excuse.

[@da835t]

He was housing excomunicado. Big no no

[@ftrunks2k]

Honour at the end of the day. Same reason Zero at the end of JH3 died. John was willing to let him go.

[@dodywidodo9433]

it’s a matter of honor

[@gameskyjumper1721]

He died to protect his daughtor. Even thought it looks like Caine was letting them leave but you know the high table is always coming. They always want blood for any of their "wrong doing". By letting Caine kills him he drew attention and resposiblity all to him. Kinda let the Table forgot about Akira. I think Caine also understood this and that's why he told the girl not to keep going as her dad just did that so she can live.

[@Durendail]

Bros before hoes

[@firasshamed8852]

The scene with the big paintings, that's actually the Louvre museum. They probably filmed there at night when the museum was closed because it is always crowded. The big painting is The Raft Of Medusa i think, and the painting that Marquis was sitting in front of is Liberty Leading the People.

[@Domo3194]

It’s okay to like something you know… you don’t have to force find things not to like

[@selleo6838]

Lol. I agree!

[@EzraDair]

John Wick didn’t chose not to kill Caine in Osaka. He was out of ammo and the only reason the glass cracked cause he tried to reach the other gun

[@SavageRicktator]

Wick tumbling down flights of stairs had me chuckling Caine's line delivery was brilliant "John we must get up the stairs!"

[@Skull1Hunter]

I'm a tad disappointed that nobody mentions the blatant homage to The Warriors. Yeah, it's an older movie that was re-released on the 2000s, along with a video game, but I lost my mind when that part happened. I'm 34 years old, and seen that movie many times, so when John Wick 4 basically ripped the entire "Nowhere to Run" segment into the last act, including the song, I laughed my ass of and had a giant smile on my face. I've seen many reviews for John Wick Chapter 4, but not a single one mentioned it.

[@hisham031170]

I like when Kaine use alarms to find the location of the enemies, but after that, he never used them again. He just went full Daredevil.

[@Coinsocks]

I can't believe nobody was talking about how they blew up an entire building in NEW YORK CITY, IN 2023, and nobody outside the assassin society blinked an eye at it.

[@JohnnyNada]

The Stairs scene is my new favorite action scene ever. When he tumbled all the way down lol. Dude this is a perfect movie. 10/10 new favorite action movie ever and probably top 10 movies ever in general

[@electrolytes]

He never got his car back. That car was the catalyst for this whole series. He gets it back then things are full circle.

[@trapgod9690]

French guy: Remember your family Donny Yen: F OFF! Just too funny

[@coreyb1295]

I noticed the weird line delivery too. My ring..........my freedom

[@Albert7Lionheart]

I really wait for the fifth film to be announced REAL soon, since Chapter 4 will make a LOT of money. That or the crossover with Nobody would be lovely, and to see an alive John, and get a little bit of Winston too!

[@atomic747]

Well for now keanu and the director are going to take a break from john wick for now. But there is a spin-off that takes place between chapter 3 and 4 called ballerina.

[@reginaldndambiblessingkhoz5266]

This is the worst out of the franchise. I went to the cinema to watch the movie and left underwhelmed. But I thought maybe if I watch it at home my opinion would change...so I waited until it released on digital, watched it... And I unfortunately still feel the same. Don't get me wrong, The cinematography of this movie is beautiful... in Osaka, in the club, and pretty much all of the movie... And of course not forgetting the birdseye view fight with John flaming those assassins...but that's where my compliments for this movie end. The opening fight with John riding his horse in the desert and shooting those other guys was underwhelming and could've been cut out of the movie. The horse fight with motorcycles involved in John Wick 3 was more entertaining. The fight scene in Osaka felt like a repeat of the fight scene in John Wick 3 towards the end. A blind assassin... really? One scene he needs those doorbell sounding thingies to sense where his opponents are and the next he's shooting like a guy that can see... I know pretty much everything about John Wick isn't real but come on...a blind assassin? He's like Daredevil. Don't get me started on Mr nobody...his character was just there... Not remarkable at all, even his dog because we already got a badass with cool fight dogs in the previous installment and he's supposed to be raising money to buy this dog but he's putting it in harms way by getting it involved in fights. And of course, the main character... John Wick. I really didn't like that they made him repeat those iconic lines from the previous films into this new one..."Yeeeeeah", "Guns, lots of guns", "I'm going to kill them all"... Did writers stop being creative? People were getting hit by cars and getting shot and there was accidents on a very popular France road...and there wasn't any cops in sight? Or any civilian casualties? Come on. Overall, John Wick 4 felt like a parody of the John Wick movies. I feel like an alien because I seem to be the only one that didn't like the movie.

[@gregorycomer4726]

I love the fight to the church. It was a tribute to the warriors one of my favorites

[@Coomslayer9000]

Not afraid to say I nearly shed a manly tear during the ending, wasn’t expecting it and I kinda hope they don’t pull a ‘he didnt actually die’, felt like it was the best possible way to end it seeing as how most people thought it would end up being milked dry until nobody wanted another movie, better to end on a bittersweet high than a happy low

[@victorparkinson3316]

FYI: Yen's character was a superior assassin that in one scene he started that he gave up his eyes 👀

[@EzraDair]

Akira didn’t show up in the subway by coincidence she’s the one who told John where to go she asked him to go to this specific subway station so she knew that he’ll be there if he survives

[@midoribushi5331]

I saw it today and was blown away. Easily the best of the franchise and a 10/10

[@Adrian_37633]

I don’t think they can top the excomunicado scene from the 3rd movie

[@VykeKing]

That's a stretch.. It easily has the worst acting, and the action isn't the best in the franchise. People like you always say "this was the best in the franshise" whenever the next installment comes out whether it's better or not.

[@edsta714]

Honestly I could have done with less fighting and more story telling. I think everyone is interested in the lore and there was like 3 lines of dialog in between fights.

[@the_jones528]

I want Mr. Nobody to have his own spinoff. He and the dog are badass as fuck.

[@sheltondmello8031]

He already has

[@TheKalZul]

@@sheltondmello8031 I see what you did here.

[@danafarr4289]

His name is the tracer

[@LeapingRat]

He was lame af lol he was basically any norma npc john has killed hundreds of times over but for some reason they gave him plot armor. I dont even know what the point of his character was

[@dostoyevsky7319]

​@@LeapingRat they needed a dog. I'm sure they finished the script and were like fuck we need a guy with a dog so they added him. I agree you could take him out and it wouldn't change the story at all but I love dogs and am glad they added him for nothing else than to have a dog in a few action scenes

[@coryjack606]

John Wick 3 was obviously the best. Had the best storyline having everyone after him starting the same way it ended in 2 and gave us a-little backstory without detracting from the story. And the ending was magnificent even dropping a Matrix line. “Guns… Lots of guns”

[@Mrallxboxgaming]

I felt like Tracker was a pointless character, yes he bailed john out a couple times but it would've been better to cut him out and just have john not need to be bailed out

[@synaptik111]

I like the nod to The Warriors with the DJ giving away John's position when he's in Paris. Nice

[@jasonarnold1990]

Joe is right, other Joe and Alex are wrong. It's John Wick you go for the entertainment. 10/10 go see it.

[@chrisgodfrey1880]

So just gonna give my own opinion on the Common situation and him not returning. No he did not die directly in the scene, but he was put in a position where he would likely die after John left. He was stated to only be able to live if he didn't pull out the knife. But that doesn't mean he would live forever. Personally I think he would have likely died from that injury later because eventually the knife is gonna get taken out and most likely would have killed him then. Don't know if they actually stated 100% he was able to survive and get medical attention, but I feel like the moment that knife was in his heart it was game over sooner or later

[@DoBap_]

Can we talk about now John Wick’s final scene was straight ripped from Cowboy Bebop? It’s just funny that’s obviously what they were thinking, given that Keanu is a big fan.

[@joshuabrien2970]

That just tells me that original cowboy bebop adaption idea had some form of potential and the scene is better then the entire cowboy bebop live action adaption

[@ftrunks2k]

Which part exactly. Him shooting Marquis at close range was nothing original sure. But hardly CB.

[@aarongutierrez7705]

@@ftrunks2k I think the him falling over at the end after the fight

[@DoBap_]

@@ftrunks2k he just casually dies on the white stairs, but leaves just enough ambiguity to suggest he could’ve survived.

[@jw1714]

What’s a Cowboy bebop

[@clockwork2620]

Caine’s character pantomimed the blind grasping for objects during battle much more than any of the other blind combatant characters dare devil etc…. The others don’t reach for surfaces as much. I even noticed Caine would pull an enemy out of the stair or walking path before knocking him out to avoid tripping over him later

[@NoneYa831]

Caine stabbing John’s hand made it so he would have to shoot with his left hand. It’s a small subtle detail. I think the other guys are being a little harsh on the movie. Less realistic (which all action movies are) does not hinder my enjoyment or the execution of the film.

[@andrewjmp3494]

It's a ridiculous argument. No action film would be longer than 5 minutes long if they're totally based in realism.

[@jgabriel3776]

Anyone else notice when Winston touched John’s tombstone you can see part of the cross of the Ruska Roma tattooed near his wrist?

[@hectoradriano3814]

I like they kind of retconned the Elder from the Table by killing him in the beginning. That was arguably the most mixed thing about the sequels. Good that they kept the defeating the Table an underworld game rather than a assassin-like religion. I don’t mind the idea but the underworld game played off John Wick a bit better

[@KidKingdomHearts]

I always assumed that certain “branches” of the organization/assassins system does have a “religion-like” ideology to them. Like a Muslim Batman “Court of Owls” kind of thing.

[@alexnetherton3245]

Chapter 3 is still my personal favorite. Following up where Chapter 2 left off, John's bounty being posted forced him to take on a full onslaught of assassins right from the start. I felt like that was much more gripping than having him take out one High Table dude in the desert . While still dangerous, The Table are more of an ambiguous existential threat for John, and its more relatable to the audience to see John taking on standard goons. Like, remind us how cool John is right from the start rather than just having him pick off one dude in the desert.

[@Alex-xi3bw]

Best parts of this movie were Donnie Yen and the old guys in my theater who looked like they were Keanus age and having a blast

[@bapoo907]

Thing about the bounty is marquis actually puts a higher bounty at the end which is larger than what mr nobody agreed to hence why he called and kept asking to increase their deal because he got screwed so he killed the other bounty hunters until marquis agreed to increasing their agreed upon deal

[@eternalbeing3339]

I guess john wick is the terminator now lol. Bullets bounce off of him, he can fall 5 storys and keep fighting. To unrealistic for me. Its just 100 percent spectacle, with no realism like the 1st one had. Regardless of the amazing stunt work/choreography, it just takes me out of the film. Donnie Yen's character was just ridiculous. A blind man shooting people? I mean come on. This is not a marvel film, we do not need all of that nonsense. Chapter 4 is still worth watching, but i think its worse than the last one.

[@LordZevv]

Agree 100 % This movie is Fast and Furious level ridiculous and i did not enjoy it

[@TheBlackKS1]

Another hint that John might be alive is when they were discussing what he wants on his tombstone, King (Laurence Fishburne) discusses that he has a tombstone after faking his death. It could be either way, John is alive and faked his death so no one comes after him or try to blackmail him into doing anything, or he did die.

[@kbrewers]

Was the I am Claus dude a riff off of I am Groot? or Ho Door?

[@justukki6549]

The way King laughed after winston said "who knows" i was like yeah he ain't dead, john wick might be but Jonathan isn't ;)

[@SolidMikeP]

AJ must have been hungry during this episode, needed a snicker

[@geodaet83]

Y'know, this is pretty much a video game. The suspension is disbelieve these movies are demanding is ridiculous and since there is no believability to anything there are pretty much no stakes whatsoever. Lets list the ridiculous points, or some of them 1. This assassin guilde is supposed to be an underground society or whatever? So why are there no civilians anywhere who FREAK THE F... OUT when people kill each other around them? Why is there no police, FBI and so on? Why do they broadcast their assassin radio from the Eiffel tower? Wouldn't anyone notice that? 2. John wick often just walks down the street as an easy target. Instead of blindly charging at him you could either shoot him from far away or boobytrap the location he is heading or maybe coordinate your attack. Have people placed on the roof and shoot at the same time? Y'know like what they did in the beginning with those archers... 3. The motivation for killing him is money (I guess). After he killed 100 colleagues, maybe the 101st would lose morale and run away? Is money really such a high drive? How would you even prove that you were the one who killed him? Sure the action and Choreography is top notch but if no one behaves like a human being there are just zero stakes and for me this plagues this series since the 2nd part. There is just no believability to anything. Of course this kind of movie doesn't need to be realistic but then they can just skip the overly serious parts which also would shorten it to an acceptable length...

[@doppelganger9093]

The warriors homage was so dam good! No where to run! No where to hide!

[@leemiz9830]

They went ridiculous in odd ways, that I wish it would've went ridiculous in more of a way where I wish he was using more variety of weapons. Dudes mainly still just shooting the whole movie. I only remember really the nunchucks scene and the really cool dragons breath scene. But I feel like there can be only so much gun shooting in 1 movie.

[@xgodzhiredgunx]

The movie really reminded me of the good, the bad and the ugly

[@prateekkhanna5540]

32:27 that stunt was mind blowing, that was all one take, a stuntman actually fell all the way 100-150 stairs......it was a punch in the gut both within the story and as a real life stunt