Should You Snowboard Flat based | No Edges

[@JohnathanBuckhouse]

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[@ellstackeradventures]

:)

[@tt-thats-me]

I learned my first season to pick an edge before the board picks one for me

[@stinkydyl]

Yeah my butt and knees still hurt 1 week later. I caught on pretty quick to choose one😂😂

[@matthewterry1151]

Perfect explanation 😂

[@scoobydoobie5661]

well said lol

[@jordanstclair7380]

This is such an amazing explanation 😂

[@G2thesecondpower]

If you're hitting jumps or Park features, you have to ride a flat base.

[@natemeadows1105]

I just got a snowboard for Christmas and I cannot tell you how much your video have helped me. Appreciate the tips🤙

[@axelgarcia-holweger1858]

How? It’s not even Christmas😂

[@natemeadows1105]

@@axelgarcia-holweger1858 I just got my “present” early so I could use it more.

[@snowboard303]

That's awesome! Good for you Nate

[@big_enoah]

My first time snowboarding I straight sent it and went flat almost have way down the small run for a missouri ski resort and got so good speed without stopping caught and edge and lets just say I broke my nose and the board 😂😂 still sent it the rest of the time I was there, bad mistakes make the best stories

[@iCraftDay]

lol rip

[@andresquintero2436]

I flat based didn’t know how to get out of it and ate half the mountain. Dislocated shoulder and concussed. Still scared of edges lol

[@mckeener08]

You’re doing a lot at Keystone, can you demo how a beginner can get off of Peru lift and make it to the steep part of Freda’s run without getting stuck on the fall line, losing momentum and being forced to unstrap at the closed part of Schoolmarm?

[@idkanymore6634]

step 1. Don’t suck

[@David-pt2tg]

@@idkanymore6634everyone started somewhere:)

[@ellstackeradventures]

Let's goooo

[@alexandrubirghilescu170]

As a skiier who's never ridden on an American slope this looks like another language to me

[@ellstackeradventures]

@@alexandrubirghilescu170 ya lol confusing

[@patthesoundguy]

I see so many new riders flat base it and lean way back and then they pick up speed and the board has no control and it just veers off in a random direction 😱

[@VypeReaper]

Going flat is also good to use when you go down a catwalk. Going flat/snowboard grounded and squatting down/bending will let you pick up speed. Once you get to the destination, just stand up.

[@JohnathanBuckhouse]

Yes 🙌🏼

[@joshuaarcher1337]

Sending this to friends coming in from out of town!

[@best3mates48]

Thank you I really needed this, I just started snowboarding and it feels really awkwards riding flatbased

[@badtostada6123]

mind where you have your shoulders. if you are out of line with them it will send the board in that direction and youll catch an edge... and try to keep your weight on your back foot.. having a slight equal duck stance helps to... i ride duck footed around 15 degrees on both bindings and fairly wide ... try to get use to a wide stance over narrow... narrow feels more comfortable at first but youll get used to wide and be happy you did

[@Jon-Chan]

I try not to ride flat base if I can help it for fear of catching an edge and ending up wiping out!😬

[@desiraemuhlestein1763]

Dude same. The only time I can ride flat is getting off the lift or skating through a flat spot. If I'm fully strapped in and I try to ride flat, I ALWAYS catch an edge and injure myself. Those flat spots have always been the most dangerous and difficult to get through for that reason. It took me the first two years of boarding to realize that I can never, ever ride flat. After probably 6 years I was like, ok, I've been doing this for awhile, im pretty good at it by down, let me try to ride flat in this flat area because even keeping an edge here is really difficult. I caught an edge (going snails pace) maybe 10 feet down and ate shit so hard I thought I broke my elbow.

[@ShaZei]

@@desiraemuhlestein1763 feels kind of odd to me. I'm bombing those single and double black diamond slopes almost all the time as long as there is nobody and never really had problems. As long as the board is straight and there is no large bumps it shouldn't affect it at all. To catch one something would have to push your board sideway or the bump or hole would have to be larger than the tip of the board. I did one time got thrown down the hill when I was a kid but it was not due to an edge, from my vague memory it must have been some kind of hole since it started with a few front flips. My guess is that as long as you can keep your board straight & momentum is present, you shouldn't have problems. From memory, I thinks it used to mostly be a problem at low speed but it probably was due to lack of balance.

[@desiraemuhlestein1763]

@@ShaZei Yeah, most of the time, this in the instance of going super slow after loosing momentum in a flat spot where it's near impossible to keep an edge or switch back and forth. But even when I was going like normal down a slope in the beginning I was catching an edge left and right mostly due to inexperience or something/someone throwing me off. I also haven't ridden any board except for my beginner rocker until now (I have a hybrid) and my god is that a night and day difference. The rocker would washboard over all the little inconsistencies in the snow and just be bouncing around all over the place. The hybrid i have now just cuts right through like butter and is so much easier to control. That being said, I still don't dare to try riding flat. It makes me too nervous from all the times I've almost thrown myself off a cliff or almost seriously injured myself (I'm still reaping the consequences). I also don't feel like I'd be as in control since you basically give up all speed management doing that. Going fast makes me nervous, just knowing if I were to catch an edge bombing down a hill, I'd be done for. Black diamonds are a no go for me lol At this point, it's just a confidence thing.

[@blazingtrails7497]

Just got my lvl 1 instructor ticket going for lvl 2 in few months loving vids helps give me more teaching ideas

[@JohnathanBuckhouse]

Yes!!! Stoked to help

[@Jon_Crawford]

Merry Christmas to you and your family Buckhouse!!!

[@puckoberto]

My old cool Bean was so easy flatbasin With.

[@G2thesecondpower]

I've been riding for 7 years and I've struggled with this the whole time. Recently got a new board that feels a lot more comfortable flat basing. I'm putting more effort to practicing this on greens.

[@DaddyDoggAbbott]

Watching the reflection in your goggles of Cody almost getting wiped out

[@tacojohns3432]

You missed discussing the concept where when you are flat you have to put pressure on one edge or the other as your board drifts... its a really hard concept for new riders to understand and i was hoping to share your vid to some

[@ExoticDva]

Holy that makes so much sense. I’m always afraid to ride flat because my board always tends to drift and I have no clue what Is going on.

[@puckoberto]

No you dont have to if you know what you doing. Great for beginners but on a cat track flat base is faster. And like jb say. On real ice you flat.

[@eastonthomas1354]

You should come to Missouri hidden valley ski resort

[@RobertoJuanSurMontana]

thank you for all the insights!

[@spookfruit7956]

Are you gonna be at Keystone this wendsday

[@seantheguy]

Theres so many skiers and snowboarders that think the whole mountain is theirs, without apology. Craaaaazy

[@JohnathanBuckhouse]

Right lol

[@Jon_Crawford]

Merry Christmas to you and your growing family.

[@maxmansullivan999]

Come to central Oregon! Hit Mt. Bachelor dude you’ll love it so much

[@glendhoward]

What is your skiing in NC and all we have is ice 🤪

[@eastonthomas1354]

All I have is 70 degrees in Missouri

[@shadowcard6923]

I find that if using proper turn technique (as you highlighted in another video) I can ride the edge off the lift when I’m on the outside sides

[@JohnathanBuckhouse]

Totally!

[@SugmaDLigmaNutz]

Practicing 1 foot riding is a good way to practice flat base riding. You are forced to ride flat with 1 foot in. Also improves balance.

[@franksantasiero1365]

Not true . You can ride on an edge with one foot in. I sometimes need to do it getting off chairlift.

[@radajamesjavelosa]

Merry Christmas Johnathan to you and your family,, dude I just realized all this time watching your channel since the beginning of your season 1 , Merry Christmas and have a happy new year, Congrats to you and your wife, a new Baby girl ....🎅🎅🎅

[@jimw8615]

I am used to flat base. I used to be a skateboarder. I luv riding the park with all the street feature. Much easier than skateboarding

[@dseer13]

I was riding flat based, picked up some speed, ended up in a narrower path. Panicked tried to heel break. And I dont even know what happened. But I bashed my head on the ground and my butt is hurting a week later....

[@Taradays]

Yoo same here. But I was riding switch and had been working on getting my switch riding back. I felt like I was flat and had a bit of toe going for me. It was part of a big ski trip and this was the 6th day of snowboarding and the last day which was planned. My husband caught it on the GoPro. It was like a car crash all I saw was the ski. It was a windy day and I expected power to great my back but no. My neck also like tried to save my head a bit or something and had strain.

[@dseer13]

@@Taradays yeah my neck was hurting a while too. let me know i have some work to do.

[@FABRCTR]

Great Video!~

[@hunterscrackdealer6650]

“I don’t know everything about snowboarding… just more than you {looks directly into camera}” -Me shaking my head in agreement 😂

[@JohnathanBuckhouse]

Omg 🤦🏼‍♂️🤣😂🤣

[@Readit4Life_2Chron7_14]

Merry Christmas Yah’l

[@Ace8Three]

That speed is terrifying 😮

[@JohnathanBuckhouse]

Right!

[@raymondrivera6616]

whats the small pouch behind his left leg?

[@bjpdrums]

Killin it!

[@ciphergeek1251]

if you dont have any edges can you still cache a edge?

[@aussiedude7453]

Hello how’s it going?

[@rylercastillo1596]

Ok

[@aussiedude7453]

Noce

[@rylercastillo1596]

How bout you

[@idkanymore6634]

hello I am under the water please help me

[@rylercastillo1596]

@@idkanymore6634 sorry to here that I had covid a week ago and almost ended up in the hospital. But I'm ok now can't taste though and lost 14 pounds as a 13 year old boy who is only 130lbs

[@Thedoodahman_]

My powder board is flat based and my park board is flat base I love them

[@opinion56]

colorados lack of snow right now is pretty disturbing

[@snowboard303]

It's true but luckily we just got a big storm!

[@christopherkintz7821]

Add catwalks, as a beginner that’s what I struggle with the most

[@ellstackeradventures]

Yooo

[@clowd4796]

Any one knowing if you got to be flat based after jumps

[@ozz3790]

So then whats the point of riding flat based???

[@puckoberto]

Cat tracks,tricks More Speed.

[@Briguydude]

why you still riding at keystone/VR after all the problems they gave you

[@shcottam]

I go flat based when I turn.. I'm pretty good

[@JohnathanBuckhouse]

🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@maverickelser4683]

Is that a new binding bag I spy??

[@jordonwest6892]

The ultimate question 🙋‍♂️. Do you ride faster flat? Or holding a pencil thin edge? Me and a couple of buddies seem to disagree on this and I’m curious to hear everyone else’s idea.

[@kylesalisbury4886]

Flat. The edge digs into the snow and causes friction. However, you can still get a lot of speed on your edge and still have control. If you go really fast while going flat, you're bound to catch an edge. Trust me, I've been there.

[@Rockb149]

Always carving. Flat basing is what causes so much friction that slows you down

[@puckoberto]

Arwin Then you have to vax your board cause flatbase is faster.

[@leightonslanga7465]

Depends on the snow. Edge is much faster on ice but tends to sink in on the really soft stuff and rides a bit slower

[@elp1291]

As long as you carve and don't skid (and your edges are in decent shape), being on an edge will **always** be faster. Wax helps lower the friction between the board and the snow, but the physics is still the same : Less contact means less friction and more potential speed. And the thin metal edge isn't going to slow you down (because it's not covered in wax) given it's width compared to the fact you reduce your contact surface by at least half when on an edge compared to flat. If you pick more speed on flat than on an edge it just means your carving game isn't on point yet. I haven't ever been stuck on a flat run since I grasped this, and even outrun skiers.

[@dominofive5075]

I see kids doing this and get jealous

[@Bhami7]

bb jio

[@gaelsantana738]

yeah put your more likely to catch an edge

[@carvinbush]

Are those women's bindings 😆

[@BohemianCloud35]

The more JB videos I watch the more terrible advice I hear. Some poor person is going to (or probably already has) crack their noggin because you said riding flat can pick up speed fast... To a beginner rider that sounds like "Do ThIS To gO FaSTeR." and they are going to catch an edge because they have no idea how to control themselves at speed.

[@MattSmith38258]

I’m sorry fall line? That’s no how physics works, there is an effect, subtle shifts in your weight that will affect the direction you go while “flat” even the snowball you show has curves, bumps, that affect the next way it bounces and in that clip you see that in action. You can say it’d be like standing in a sled, but the more you shift from heel to toe and vice versa it affect the lean or tilt of the base of the board even without riding an edge, I feel like you’ve gone so pro you’ve lost the nuisance of the basics man.

[@bivvy1238]

Suck eggs mate. You know what he means, stop playing