Andor Episode 10 Aftershow

[@xREDGHOSTRIDERx]

"I share my dream with ghosts. I am condemned to use the tools of my enemy to defeat them. I burn my life to make a sunrise that I know I will never see. What do I sacrifice? Everything!"

[@jordizzle253]

Love you guys man!!! Great recap

[@Zackrifice]

That vicious echo when he said “Everything!” was a powerful tone to end that speech on. Lonni’s face: 👁 👄 👁

[@oscarnunez7801]

AHHHHHHH SO FKNG GOOD

[@Stringer13ell]

"I burn my life to make a sunrise that I know I will never see that'll light the fire that'll burn the first order down."

[@larpenteur2794]

William Shakespeare

[@davidgutierrezzg]

Andy Serkis has mentioned in interviews that his character knew he was not going to make it, and that is why the internal struggle at the beginning. So yeah, even more heartbreaking

[@danielschenk3427]

Rob and Kris reviewing stuff is the best thing on KZbin for me right now, ngl.

[@adeking88]

My God. The Monologue from skarsgard at the end... OH. MY. GOD. Rob said it, 'JAW Dropping' I had chills.

[@benbamboo2577]

The Andor series being so competent, effective, and high quality makes the failures of Fett and Kenobi even more apparent than they were before. And more flagrant in comparison. Andor makes me wonder where the adults in the room were when writing and directing those shows.

[@wahn10]

Agree. This is the difference between shows whose primary goal is marketing, and a show like Andor, where the goal is great storytelling, period.

[@benbamboo2577]

@@wahn10 We have to hand it to Disney for already greenlighting Andor for season 2. While realizing their 2 shows starring more followed much more marketable characters like Fett and Kenobi may have been one and done. Can't say if it was due to their poor reception or not. But either way, it was a good call.

[@XieRH1988]

Thinking back to the scene in Mandalorian season 2 where bill burr had that awesome scene with the imperial officer. That was one performance. Andor so far has just been dozens upon dozens of such performances on that caliber. Andy serkis and stellan skarsgard steal the show in this episode but even that one scene with mon mothma where you see her reacting to the terms of the 'deal' with that guy and how he was going to set up his son with her daughter, the nuances in her facial expressions even after the dialogue was over spoke so much volumes

[@briandavison8306]

This was such a powerful episode. The whole effing series is too good. I'm old, Rob, like you. I am loving this and was hanging on every word of that monologue, bro. My twenty year old son was next to me, the same. We applauded the end of this one. Andor is peak Star Wars drama that is a masterclass in narrative storytelling. Good job to you both. Great chemistry and going strong after weekly hero this week!!! Whooooo!!!

[@Dragonstar13]

If Disney did put out an extended edition of Rogue one on Disney Plus, I'd watch it.

[@johnsalvi2273]

Me too, I love that movie

[@rodolfoleyva6299]

That final speech by S. Skarsgard: the best 👍🌟

[@jordizzle253]

So good

[@Andrea-nom]

Sent chills up my spine

[@dxjjw]

I agree that Rogue One should’ve been a bit longer to flesh out the characters and crew. After watching Andor it would of probably been best to do it in a series format.

[@SalsaPie]

"I can't swim" broke my heart.

[@jline6889]

Yea me also, and the expression on his face was just devastating, here’s a guy that finds out in his last year left he’ll be sent to another prison so it’s escape or die trying and you get out the plan worked, so he’s thinking I’m gonna live free and then see the water and you can’t make the jump cause you’ll die drowning. Watery eyes moment. Andy Serkis phenomenal actor.

[@darthadonut6285]

I burn my decency for someone else's future. I burn my life, to make a sunrise I know I'll never see. When I heard that I had to pause the episode and replay it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. That's one of the best written and executed lines of dialogue I've ever heard in any show period. And it was in Star Wars in the Disney era. Like what is going on here?

[@colmcoakley3916]

really good writing and no cheap fan service pandering

[@henrietta9206]

ikr

[@vesnalukic9898]

It sounded good but so egocentric. It's very easy to sacrifice something you don't have (love, family, etc), it's easy to use people as pawns for the "greater good" when it's not your daughter, mother, sister, wife. He was never married because he didn't have to do that, and yet he is asking from other people to do exactly that. And also he is acting as the emperor himself.. When you choose to help the cause, there is no way out.

[@waltstreets3769]

On any water based facility there has to be some form of safety floatation devices. Kino will find a way out😅

[@zatoichi1]

Exactly. At the very least there's a base commander's life boat like on oil rigs.

[@benelson12]

It's ironic that some of the best star wars we've gotten is the prequel of a prequel.

[@sirmarshall9521]

Star Wars is the one IP that I personally prefer when they go backward in time with stories rather than forward.

[@SynthTerror]

Power doesn't panic.

[@missizook3960]

I so agree with you! I took them seriously. Especially in empire! Vader was so scary. Then it became fun. You are saying everything I’m feeling watching this.

[@pse2020]

That speach at the elevator... I cant believe a human wrote that... So freaken good!

[@OconByrd519]

There's gotta be some type of flotation device somewhere on that prison for Kino to use !

[@alexjones50]

Luthen's speech at the end showed me that while Luthen does questionable things he is at his core a good man who wants what is best for the Galaxy. Nothing he does is selfish, none of this will benefit him personally. He could have lived a pretty nice life on coruscant but he didn't, he gave up everything to see the Galaxy free. Also poor Kino "I can't swim" three words that his such an emotional pang. (Now he gets captured, experimeted on and turned into snoke, lol)

[@Tony-e4b1p]

Rob had me at “Bandai PG Gundam model” while wearing a Speed Racer shirt 🙌🏽

[@grayden4138]

This episode didn't feel like Star Wars at all, and to me, that's what makes it among the very best Star Wars I've ever experienced.

[@SynthTerror]

I couldn't have put it better myself

[@jlo1195]

besides the blasters pistols they're using...

[@davidcole2337]

This was the best Episode to date for Andor..

[@archelonprime]

I knew Luthen was going to say he sacrificed everything, BUT I didn't know how much he would explain it before confirming it!

[@swomplord360]

The overalls Kris is wearing are dope! 🤣 I like her 10x more now

[@cbeavers1579]

“I can’t swim “ My heart broke😢

[@mollykisthart8900]

I remember the first trailer dropping and thinking “Star Wars has joined the best epic scifi canons like Dune, Foundation in their ability to tell a generation spanning story exploring the same things from multiple places” I was right

[@rondz1234]

Exactly. From the first trailer I knew what we were in for. That gritty dark spy genre people wanted to see with Rouge one. And it's directed by Gilroy. I knew it

[@johnsalvi2273]

Everyone expects a big space battle.....why? Scarif was the first major battle of tge rebellion

[@rachelgreenwood7047]

Lonni wasn't the comms guy in Rogue One, but he did get eaten by the T-Rex on the helicopters ladder at the start of JW:Fallen Kingdom!! Xx

[@drawnhere]

Regarding the lack of aliens in the Galactic Empire: From Wookipedia: "Human High Culture, also called High Human Culture and Imperial High Culture or Human Supremacy, was the Galactic Empire's codified policy of Humanocentric speciesism. It centered around the belief (long, if privately, held by a minority of Humans in the Human-dominated Core) that Humans were inherently superior to other species."

[@74kid]

Yes! Love the way the Kenobi Stormtrooper precision line was picked up here! When I heard that in 78, it made me fearful of Stormtroopers. Great content again 👍🏻

[@joshpartridge760]

this episode was amazing

[@colmcoakley3916]

Justice for Kino. So say we all!

[@iamamogka]

I have a weird feeling like he'll be back. Partly because it's Serkis.

[@jonidickson-garcia9978]

"Don't choke on your asparagus." 😂🤣

[@pachalien]

Good connection: we don't have to forget how in the last jedi, it is mentioned how the rebelion trade with corrupt rich nets so they can have ships , weapons, etc to battle the empire.

[@zatoichi1]

After this episode I want Kino and Luthen action figures.

[@zavialova]

disagree on rogue 1. we DID get background on characters. Chirrut and Baze were weary guardians of the whills who had lost their purpose who could join the pushback, jyn we knew, cassian had been in the fight from an early age and was battle weary, the pilot Bodhi knew his time was up when he defected. Did we need more than that? For a team that came together to pull off a heist we just needed to see their motivations. Which we did and each of their knowledge and expertise was used to pull it off. Their deaths were not in vain. Brilliant story telling, as we are getting in Andor. You've allowed the hatemongers to infect your judgement.

[@Jangel0302]

Andor left those last two guards because he knows there has to be some other prisoner that will have no compunction about killing them.

[@richb313]

Thanks Guys

[@johnsalvi2273]

That one guy that stepped in the water and then got fried. Must have been extra painful.

[@mitchelk888]

Do you think we'll see Palpatine. Every time they go to the senate I half expect him to be present at these meetings.

[@rodolfoleyva6299]

It gave me goosebumps

[@patricklim4592]

One Way Out

[@nunyah5614]

KINO COULD JUST FLOAT TO SHORE WITH THE levitating BODY TABLE ! AM I THE ONLY ONE who going crazy about that ?? I was screaming just use the table at my tv!

[@jlo1195]

yeah they have levitation AI guided gurney....I'm sure they have more of them in the facility...since they know they're going to work them to death.

[@nunyah5614]

@@jlo1195 at least 20 of them per floor , AT LEAST

[@Galactic123]

that would be insane if after the final episode they release an extended cut of Rogue One with some added scenes

[@lettheloveflow]

Can't be. There's another season coming.

[@LuisOrtiz-ze2jh]

Cesar in the star war in the escape

[@chadmedical4823]

That is the first untrue thing you’ve said.

[@RichardDicksondlyrch68]

People forget that the stormtroopers "missing" in Star Wars was because they were under orders to let them escape.

[@charlietheunicorn5383]

I'm with Kris on this one..... Syril and Dedra are getting ship'd. They can be star crossed lovers, thrown together for a common cause, which will not end up well. Please Lucasfilm leave them as "bad" or "evil", no redemption arc for them! May they go out in a blaze of glory.

[@pranjoshi]

Same. They need to remain evil.

[@vesnalukic9898]

The more I'm watching Andor, the more I feel that the rebellion is the same as the Empire. They don't care about little people. They are expendable for the greater good. And Luthen is the same as the Emperor.. He doesn't sacrifice his own love ones, because he doesn't have any, and is quite ready to sacrifice other people for the cause.

[@kylearking8918]

Never in my lifetime did I think I would ever hear someone criticize Ian McDiarmid as The Emperor, yet here we have Rob lol. Well I guess that’s just the subjectivity of film. 😆

[@shelbyvillerules9962]

Ian McDiarmid is great and I love his performance but I can see where Rob is coming from. McDiarmid goes campy and over-the-top (deliberately so) and as fun as it is, there's very little nuance.

[@EACru2002]

It's proof that the whole, "I don't like the new stuff as much as the old stuff" has been happening as far back as '83. And if we're being honest, it happened in '81 with Empire. People now want to act like they always knew Empire Strikes Back was the best Star Wars film, but for a long time, the general consensus was that Empire was the least good of the three original films by the large majority of fans. It wasn't until years later it got the groundswell appreciation as the best film in the trilogy. That's why I just chuckle when I'm seeing the Prequel/TCW generation now growing up and looking at all the new stuff and saying, "Not my Star Wars!" I'd figure they of all people would realize the irony since they faced the brunt of that themselves with people hating on the Prequels. I'm not saying everything new has to be your favorite, you're allowed to dislike things. But these doom and gloom sentiments from people acting like "Star Wars is dead!", it's just silly. The cycle has happened before you, it will happen after you. The best thing you can do is jump off that treadmill and just have fun where you can. Enjoy what you can enjoy. And the things you don't? Just move past it because chances are there's a 8 year old kid right now who absolutely loves the hell out of it. One can only hope in 20 or so years, those kids don't repeat the same cycle again.

[@kylearking8918]

@@EACru2002 Wonderfully said. Unfortunately, I think the cycle will repeat because we never learn haha. I love seeing John and Rob on the show together because they are perfect examples of how different ages view Star Wars. John has said that Return of the Jedi is his favorite Star Wars movie while Rob said it’s the most disappointing movie that he ever saw.

[@kylearking8918]

@@Hectrrod Star Wars really is a flawless film.

[@EACru2002]

@@kylearking8918 Yeah, I remember as a kid growing up in the 90's, one of the things I would always check out if I came across them was the QVC Star Wars shows lol. And I remember back then, one of the hosts was talking and said how he loved ANH and ESB, but when it came to RotJ, he checked out at the teddy bears. This was during the early 90's and this was my first experience as just this wide eyed naive kid, "Oh... people can hate Star Wars?" Kinda reminds me of today as there's so many grown adults nowadays screaming on Twitter and Facebook, KZbin comments, etc, about how Disney is ruining Star Wars and how this is bad, and that is bad, and all I can think of is this innocent kid who just loves Star Wars coming across such vitriol. At least back during my day, that stuff was largely ignorable. Just something you might hear from one or two older people you meet here and there. Nowadays, it's everywhere on the internet and you can't ignore it.

[@hectorserrato3446]

Rob, there were aliens working for the Empire. The black hooded (Ant Eater looking in Star Wars: Episode 4: A New Hope) alien who followed Luke and Obi-wan Kenobi to Han's docking bay and gave their location. So yes, there was an alien working for the Empire. Plus, in Star Wars: Episode 5: The Empire Strikes Back, Darth Vader himself invites a few alien bounty hunters (on to the Super Star Destroyer) to capture those on board on the Millennium Falcon for a substantial reward.

[@edm4924]

Lightsaber mounted to a ship....😳

[@johnsalvi2273]

My hope is that they make a Guardians Of The Wills show about Baze Malbus and Chirrit (the blind guy)

[@jline6889]

That would be great but Donnie Yen is expensive, I don’t think it would be as good without him.

[@makingthequants09]

The original trilogy fan boys from the 70s need to start acknowledging that they are the problem when it comes to hating everything NOT the original trilogy

[@armenianeric]

I was there in 77. I'm not like that, and many others aren't either. And respect the OG trilogy, it's incredible. Andor is amazing as well.

[@evieblue959]

I think the problem isn’t confined to a generation. It’s that people who become fans of SW when they’re kids don’t move past a kid’s understanding of story. It’s a corrosive nostalgia if they don’t grow up.

[@jlo1195]

what happen to the transportship that took Ulaf's body and dropped off the new guy??? most of took off quick....it would've been sweet if it was still around when they broke out..that would of been their best escape out of there.

[@obijuan4782]

I can't swim 😭

[@iamamogka]

Sprinkle in a scarred mace windu ;) 😉 lol

[@Jack655321]

It's honestly mind boggling how something like Andor can come from the same production company that produced a piece of crap like The Rise of Skywalker and to a lesser extent the other sequels. It's such a disappointment they screwed up something as important as the sequel trilogy when they're obviously capable of hiring capable writers and directors.

[@LizbethOT7]

Rogue1 is my fav SW movie

[@mat3714]

SW is dead, long live Andor

[@Ronariverah]

To those Prison guards those are "Criminals" deserve their sentence. They are doing their job they don't need to care much about them.

[@zachlewis3377]

Kino 100% knew he had to swim when he said the line I can’t swim the way he said it was like yeah I can’t swim and I don’t care it was worth it.

[@mitchelk888]

The prison didn't have boats or ships there? Do the gaurds just live there?

[@amarcellus1714]

It's the Empire, I wouldn't be surprised. lol

[@Zackrifice]

Hope they at least have entertainment. Maybe Empire+, PalpatineTube, or something to game on like ControlStation5.

[@pranjoshi]

I think it's one of the failsafes in case of a breakout. They don't have a foolproof facility as proved in this episode. So that probably want to make sure that escape is as hard as possible. They are trying to run this with as few guards as possible. So the supplies probably come during the prison transport.

[@jonathanradut2595]

Is there a reason why John hasn’t been on these?

[@anne-sophie7416]

No idea. I guess he's just busy and asked them to host it. It still sucks though. If there's one aftershow he should be on , it should be that. I mean we know he's a big SW fan and he loves the show so far. It's like if they do a yellowstone aftershow for S5 but he's not on. It just doesn't feel right. Like someone else said last week, if he knows he won't do the aftershow, he should say his spoilery thoughts on the main show. Hopefully , he will do the aftershow for at least the finale.

[@josephsjourney3387]

I just thought why were there no aliens in the prison? Also haven’t seen many aliens at all. Loving the show though.

[@Dominic-Decoco]

There does appear to be a deliberate/stylistic choice to tone down the amount of aliens present and keep the cast mostly human. Not sure why, but my guess would be to try and make the show feel more grounded.

[@iamamogka]

I think keno made it mainly bc of the star power of the actor.

[@vesnalukic9898]

Also, I don't believe that among all those prisoners , he was the only one who can't swim. I mean, nobody else hesitated to jump.

[@SynthTerror]

If Disney made an Andor Cut of R1, all I'd need is for them to remove the Vader scenes (all of them), the fan service, and add more backstory to the characters.

[@jaywill1028]

I would love an extended Andor cut but we’re not removing the final Vader scene at the end. That was shocking

[@SynthTerror]

@@jaywill1028 shocking...ly inconsistent with the character as we know him in the OT, I agree

[@jaywill1028]

@@SynthTerror Vader was shocking in ANH when I first saw it at the movies. We’re keeping that final scene damn it, lol

[@SynthTerror]

@@jaywill1028 all Vader did in ANH was step onto the bridge of a ship and put his hands on his hips. What I always liked about Vader in the OT was how he didn't whip out his lightsaber unless he was fighting another force user.

[@daveg8564]

With all due respect, and all the respect in the world for Rob and Kris, but these Andor Post-Game shows really need John, because it is his thoughts we are really hanging on.

[@SynthTerror]

I disagree. Rob and Kris are great for this after show. Plus I like hearing from someone (Kris) who, like me, was lukewarm on Rogue One

[@daveg8564]

@@SynthTerror No problem. Rob and Kris are great. Just have been listening to John for years now and especially after he reacted in the main show, just really really wanted to hear from John. Heck a three person panel would be great.

[@stevros48]

Ummm Narkina 5 looked pretty desolate so how the hell will all those prisoners actually get off planet , and hide from when the prison officers get communication out that a prison break has happened , honestly Kino should have made it in his speech a top priority to find all the prison guards , DId i miss something in the episode that all comms to the empire couldnt get through ? A shame Kino couldnt talk to a few of the prisoners and see if some of them couldnt help him swim , but yeah maybe it wouldnt have the dramatic impact and maybe they have plans for his character in season 2

[@pauladdae3130]

Unless, some of the prisoners eventually get the remaining officers.

[@thwipsnoogins2081]

My only complaint about Andor is that there isn't enough aliens or droids. This universe is filled with aliens and droids. They should at least be one alien and one droid as characters. One at least.

[@alexanderp7083]

I'll be honest, I'm glad the aliens and droids are background characters for this show. Look, most SW series' can't make serious aliens in live action. This show is serious. Gilroy himself has said in an interview today that he'd struggle to put aliens in a main role without it coming off goofy. Here's the excerpt: Gilroy in an interview: There’s already so much politics in the show to begin with, and we’re trying to tell an adventure story, really. So adding strong alien characters means that all of a sudden, there’s a whole bunch of new issues that we have to deal with that I don’t really understand that well or I just couldn’t think of a way to bake them into what we’re doing. You’ll see more as we go along, but it’s a legit question and one we’ll be answering as we go along. There is a more human-centric side of the story and the politics of it. There’s certainly no aliens working for the Empire, so that kind of tips it one way, automatically.

[@HeisenStark13]

Dedra had a moment after she got to her office, she was definitely hot and bothered

[@mauricerobinson4008]

👍🏾

[@alberthughes5905]

Hot toy bix running

[@sirmarshall9521]

A man of culture.

[@inferno9103]

About conscripted kids in russia - it's bullshit.

[@kazimierasmickus8097]

yes. they set a law that kid would be allowed to work from 14 year old. as for some reason they missing lots of workers

[@inferno9103]

@@kazimierasmickus8097 actually its just idea not yet voted for. And that law makes it easier for 14 yeared teens to work. They will need only one parent agreement for it. But my comment goes to conscription to fight in ukraine which was said in video. Thats wrong

[@patricksoler]

I like you guys but I'm at the John campea channel to listen to John campea's opinion. Him being on one of these shows and not on another is really jarring and I can't watch this without him.

[@MoviesAndTvShowsAreSubjective]

Same for me

[@KingOfMadCows]

Are the guards good people? It's not like they don't know what's going on inside the prison. They're standing by and watching people getting torture and worked to death. I really wanted Vader to be the one to kill all the heroes in Rogue One. In the final act, it would look like the heroes were going to escape with the Death Star plans on a ship but right as the door is about to close, Vader steps through, and he immediately cuts down Chirrut, the person most connected to the Force and the most skilled fighter. Then Vader kills each the members of the team one by one, and one person is barely able to escape with the Death Star plans on a shuttle.

[@KurtDPalmer]

I think the show is ok

[@dacripe]

I agree. People saying it is the best thing ever (and better than the OT) are nuts. I feel like I have watched two seasons of a monologue show. I've really enjoyed the episodes since 6, but the first 5 were painful to watch (3 had its moments). The Nielsen ratings show the series dipping after 6 episodes aired due to the dullness of the first 5. We shall see if people come back to it by the end.

[@carlosf.6272]

What a boring show. I’ m a star wars fan since 1977 . I tried many times to give it a shot snd just fell flat. This show has nothing😢

[@jame2433]

Everyone’s got their opinions on this and they’re all valid. Out of curiosity have you seen all 10 episodes? I reckon people would think differently if they were watching it in chunks of 3 or 4 episodes

[@AMoistBum]

I disrespectfully disagree. You’re a boring silly goose and the show is a scrumtrulescant triumph

[@thelordofdarkness6105]

LOVE THIS SHOW AND THESE AFTER SHOWS SO MUCH . @JohnCampea THESE TWO ARE GREAT AS A PAIR OF TROUBLE MAKERS KRIS AND ROB @JohnCampea