Microsoft Just KILLED Zuck's Metaverse

[@JohnCooganPlus]

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[@thej3799]

If you were around for secondlife in 2004-2006 or so, you would know we had more then than we have now, still. The only difference is the hardware limited simultaneous people per zone (60), but crossing zones was seemless. There was no VR. There was a full economy. USD to in game currency and back out. people made millions selling virtual crap. I knew someone that did this with virtual land. YOu could script anything, make games inside the game, and it was not limited like minecraft's blocks. You could twist primitives into meshes of any shapes. Avatars looked better than the ones on VR chat. We missed an opportunity. The company linden labs, the CEO was kind of a dolt. I spoke to him a few times. He didn't understand what he had. If SL didn't become a joke because of bad management, the developers were doing miracles for the time period. SL came out right before the explosion of load balancing cloud systems. They were doing it themselves.

[@allenz_yt]

@@thej3799 what's the full name of the company/product?

[@UsernameXOXO]

​@@allenz_yt Linden Lab made Second Life. It was amazing back then, but a headache to learn as an 18 year old with no dev experience. I joined in 2005 and quit just around the start of 2017 as friends migrated to VRC, or just abandoned their virtual life.

[@allenz_yt]

@@UsernameXOXO thanks for the info!

[@a8lg6p]

OMG, why do the comments on every VR channel get deluged with spam? Seems like it's VR channels specifically. I'm going to regret posting this, because now I'm going to get notifications for spam...

[@mr.oppenthunder2527]

When everyone switches to studio apartments so they can afford mansions and farms in the metaverse I'm going to buy all the real life mansions and farms.

[@batsspiderssweety3784]

Isn’t bill gates doing that already?

[@governmentxx1896]

That's what I'm thinking 😂😂😂

[@comradelieutenant]

@Hatwox I am with you, guys. Count on me :-)

[@Redlobstermarjane]

@@comradelieutenant if you don't mind I'll be a neighbor

[@paulregener7016]

@@batsspiderssweety3784 Exactly control our food

[@davidwashington4282]

This metaverse discussion is like listening to people in the 90s telling us what will be internet.

[@Pitusha]

Haha this is the most accurate definition I've heard so far

[@greymoonz1]

I got the weird feeling this is gonna end up exactly like VRChat

[@davidwest6019]

I call it a "game" but I guess people need a new fancy word for it. Also, VR headsets are incredibly uncomfortable and will never see the same adoption as a TV/Screen. Its really as simple as having the ability to drink, eat, and see another screen while playing that will forever plague the adoption rates of VR, which we have seen as it has been about 30x as slow as that predicted by FB/Oculus.

[@lelouchlamperouge5910]

@@davidwest6019 that will end soon with AR and more compact devices. Just wait 10 years, I don't say they will be accessible to everybody, but for the first world it will.

[@S1rD4niel]

Have you ever seen the David Bowie interview where he shares his take on the internet? I bet this is going to be an even bigger shift, easily.

[@toadmadhatter]

Problem is that Facebook has messed up too many times, the leaks, the intrusive hidden programs watching us even when not on facebook, the censorship, no one wants them to have control. I hope meta dies off.

[@jr.fidelcastro8890]

So you think Microsoft do not have surveillance programs?

[@tudormontescu6275]

@@jr.fidelcastro8890 So you can show us where Microsoft makes revenue from selling data and advertising? Have a look at their financials and come back to us, please. Or, wait, you think they do it for pleasure?

[@dondutch4107]

@@jr.fidelcastro8890 Microsoft, a company who makes things of value to improve our lives. Facebook, a company that provides a free service then sells information gathered... NVM the fact they literally censor and manipulate their cash cattle showing even less respect for those who generate them income.. its like comparing a tree full of apples to a pond full of leaches saying they have the same benefit and draw backs... no, no they do not..

[@big_2361]

Facebook maybe followed you on the net but it was for your own good so its ok.

[@toadmadhatter]

@@jr.fidelcastro8890 what bad guy do you choose i guess, I think the way they censor to make society something they want would make me choose anything but them, as if they fall it will be as governments step in and have some more control over it, but we can't trust them either, there is no winning situation, other than van life, but out of all of them, id get rid of fabeook first, tik tok second, they are both trying so hard to make life "woke"

[@sookwilson5926]

While everyone is in the FOMO mode on metaverse, I continue to check off my world travel bucket list.i can actually smell the air, eat tasty local food, feel ancient temples near my arm distance

[@clara_cross]

Spoken like a true fatcat who either doesn't understand that not everyone is filthy rich like they are or otherwise looks down upon those of us who aren't as though they think being rich, poor, or anywhere in between is just simply a life choice. That is truly lovely for you, though.

[@savageman8717]

My friend nobody cares about the metaverse, while you're doing that the rest of us are joining you with actually enjoying the real world you will never find 1000 people who gives a fuck about this, all this is is an advanced way to play a game

[@daviedood2503]

Alot of folks DONT CARE about getting 50 million injections just to travel to a 3rd world country. And that's ok. More power to them.

[@thepurplegoose777]

There are many that can't afford to travel like that, but can probably afford a headset then be able to experience travel in a whole different way. You won't be able to taste and feel things but.. it's a good addition to alot of people's realities.

[@FlyboyHelosim]

I wish that I could be excited for all this, but I am not. Having been a computer user for 25 years, I find myself trying to distance from technology more and more these days. Everything relies on being connected to the internet the whole time and having social media, and I honestly hate it. I want more disconnection from technology, not more connection.

[@selohcin]

That may have something to do with the fact that you've been using computers for 25 years. Many people are in very different situations and feel very differently.

[@cookncrook6902]

I feel the exact same way. I’m saving to buy a country home and live a simple life. No internet needed.

[@FlyboyHelosim]

@@selohcin Yeah well I remember the golden age of computing, which unfortunately is well and truly gone. Now it's all bloated software that you don't even own, subscription services, operating systems that have to be online the whole time, social media, this Meta crap. It's all a load of bollocks.

[@FlyboyHelosim]

@@cookncrook6902 Nice. I fantasize about that kind of thing sometimes.

[@SilvaBlakk]

I hear you...the more technology evolves the less human we become...I'd love to disconnect...I'm glad I grew up in an era before tech was a thing and you played Nintendo etc with friends before going to a club etc...we were in control, now it controls us and people are happy for it to take over their lives...my brother in law gave me an echo dot for Christmas, it's still in the box...regardless of family and certain friends telling me its a lifesaver and when I use it I won't be able to do without it etc that shit can stay where it is...I came off Facebook years ago, don't have Instagram etc...this is bad enough but hey...I'm not excited about things, in fact I'm fearful of it...people like us get called weird etc but watch, when we say "I told you so" it'll be too late to do something about it...apologies for the rambling...✌🏿✌🏿

[@linix4037]

Zuck's sights aren't set on gaming. He wants EVERYTHING to exist in the metaverse: government, banking, every business, every private life. When you create the platform that controls everything, you control everything.

[@Christobanistan]

That's why he's buying elections in the U.S. on such a scary massive scale.

[@JMAssainatorz]

As i see it even a company like his does not have the ability. IF you create a public playground for power struggles and you sit on the keys people will start to demand access to them due to the importance of what is hosted or its simply not a good solution. : / He would need a MASSIVE monopoly akin to google to have levrege even close and slow boil society and even then google while having achived something similar is STILL not powerful enough to unify every person on one platform without demands being made the opposite way.

[@noahachrem]

He wants to be a god

[@Jimmerca]

My money is on Microsoft and Apple

[@podcastsyoutube5524]

@@noahachrem Or Julius Ceaser.

[@dudelange4301]

This guy is actually smart. Not just a curator of news and events. He actually understands business strategy.

[@SdGary420]

Exactly.

[@blackraider5123]

Well he got his own business

[@juicycarrot889]

He made Facebook, obviously he is smart 🙄

[@arilovesbingus8626]

@@juicycarrot889 i- theyre talking about the youtuber, not the zucker fucker

[@noop9k]

Lol, somehow according to him Doom was created by Microsoft, despite being made in what later became Mac OS by a person who created Oculus and still works for Facebook.

[@eihabmously1811]

I really think that the key is not to go into the meta verse but its to make the meta verse come to the real world. I mean you should not have to wear a head set to make you see stuff. I want the world around me to change and manifest into a reality or holograms

[@lukepotts9511]

i think the seperation it provides is key, plus the whole point is that its astronically cheaper to produce things digitally than physically and if access is on your own the company isnt even paying for it. more holograms would be cool tho

[@stumpgrindingdirect]

Interesting thought

[@facio1000]

I think one of the quirks of being a good futurist can be expressed like this: Seeing the top of Mount Everest before everyone else, doesn't mean its easy for you to personally get there.

[@mathew00]

I really like that! Nice

[@God_of_Calamity]

As far as a VR experience the next gen PSVR is the most advanced but price might be an issue.

[@joeschofield6971]

Read the Bible

[@calmchess0434]

Error the end product often looks very different than the vision after development optimization and if you are lucky it's more powerful than you ever thought possible. optimization is often 200 tasks after you have a stable prototype.

[@originsdecoded3508]

I would even say, that it is harder to be fist to climb mount everst if no one else has done it in which to guide yourself by example. No one has done whats his trying to do, and all other companies are going to learn from his effort, failures, and sucess, giving them insight and wisdom to get to that road.

[@SOCyak]

I really don’t look forward to this. For gaming sure but for having everything running through the metaverse and if you get banned you lose all of your money because your bank is inside of the metaverse it’s weird.

[@SOCyak]

@@TheWatchernator Facts

[@jonzi5]

Yeah I agree. Imagine huge cities like New York and LA, but without any of the crowds. Except for your average McDonald's worker, the streets would be empty, because everyone would be inside, on their headsets. That's a world I don't want to live in.

[@Sir-Smiles]

When you commit a crime, your assets can be frozen by the government. You probably want to think of a different reason for your fears

[@ConsensusX]

Well not exactly, because your "bank" will be located on a decentralized blockchain wallet. This wallet is "linked" to whichever metaverse platform you choose to use. As long as the financial aspect of the metaverse remains somewhat decentralized, you shouldn't worry about that. But personally, I think the real metaverse needs to be decentralized as well and not controlled by a single company. It needs to be a universal system that users can seamlessly move around without proprietary restrictions.

[@alberthorn180]

@@Sir-Smiles: "When you commit a crime, your assets can be frozen by the government. You probably want to think of a different reason for your fears" Yep. For example the DISGUSTING crime of typing "It's OK to be White" or typing the letter N.

[@delamar6199]

We don't need a Metaverse, we don't need Meta. We need humanity and altruism. Not another place of exile, anonymity and showmanship.

[@osanixian1499]

Humans only survive based on social clues, the internet has very little social clues, which is where we get twitter, which wont happen outside of the internet. We dont need a more lifelike internet.

[@degla232]

both companys are just trying to market a technolgy as their own invention capebility of making VR is not somthing they will ever own atlest i hope.

[@lucifer-angels]

be frankly, we all need social media platform: fb, ig, whatsapp, etc... but, the main issue was not it.... IMHO, can an entities or individual limit their behaviour online?

[@JesseP.Watson]

As an unhinged uncle who posts unhinged rants and very little else, I'm looking forward to the day when I can walk down the deserted streets as the 'sane' people sit inside blabbering shared links in their meta space so they can buy their latest avatars whilst their arses fall off the sides of their bucket seats. I'll checkle to myself as I run my jangling keychain down their teslas sat rusting outside and whistle at the glorious sunset they're all missing. ...My lifelong fantasy will then have come true: a world all to myself. You kids are so screwed. :-D

[@Gunny1971]

Nothing wrong with both. You just have to balance the two.

[@thejennyferpicolo]

Meta and Microsoft together, who knew. Technology moves fast and things age very differently than the expected 😊

[@rullangaar]

I just can’t wait to immerse myself in the metaverse and have Meta and Microsoft harvest all my data.

[@rosenberry9150]

Ikr!

[@kasyfi5546]

Aren't all company use its users data? That's why data science and data analytics exists in the first place

[@Blinkonceifyougay]

“Harvest my data” get over yourself lmfao you obviously don’t know anything about business or data. This isn’t a bad thing at all

[@jaideepshekhar4621]

@@Blinkonceifyougay Yeah giving government and possibly rogue agencies and enemies complete info on your actions is not bad?

[@jaykilborn2508]

If Micorsoft and Meta want my data, they can ask Google for it.

[@Chaos_God_of_Fate]

I'm glad it's failing. If there's going to be something like the 'Metaverse' then Facebook is one of the last companies that I want controlling it.

[@davidjones8043]

And Bill Gates is better? What?!

[@Andominicus]

@@davidjones8043 yes

[@rl4889]

@@davidjones8043 Yes

[@bomberfett3439]

@@davidjones8043 you underestimate how low of a bar it is to be better then Zucc

[@Riverr08]

@@davidjones8043 have you seen some of the things Gates has done? He has funded so much research for diseases and has donated an incredible amount of money. He is actually a decent human

[@TheOnlyBiodude]

Zuck is so obsessed with claiming the metaverse as his own that everyone wants to beat him to it. No one wants to follow one person's grand scheme for what the metaverse should be. Especially not a slimey weasel like him.

[@coryleblanc]

slimey weasel 😂

[@onerealmmapping]

Is my coding class thrown in the trash bc of VR?

[@onerealmmapping]

Oh wait I could just make a VR game

[@bobexiled83]

Don't get more slimey than Gates

[@bigmike3189]

And the oculus quest 2 is already underpowered it limits the future of the quest 2

[@wackzingo]

I'm a software engineer and love new technology. I also work with teens and over the last year I've been asking my coworkers and the teens I work with what they think of the Metaverse and if they're interested and I have yet to meet a single person that is even remotely interested. This is something everyone wants and doesn't know it or this will go down as the most expensive mistake in history.

[@georgelupenza7437]

How can I reach you for further discussion!!

[@itsrightbehindyou]

It's a mistake.

[@blinkenschnaag777]

Working with teens 😏 How pleasurable

[@groveofdarkness]

Trust me it will go down as the most expensive mistake in tech history.

[@rollyunicorn]

Hopefully it will go down like the Titanic, taking Captain Zuckerjuice with it.

[@fr0stw0lf97]

Basically it's a race for who can make hell better and faster. Metaverse represents a disconnection from reality. Perception is manipulated beyond belief.

[@swoopskee]

not really. At its best metaverse would just be a seamless way to transition between the digital and virtual. Or, better yet, a digital overlay that provides data about the real world, and enables complex operations in the real world, in a seamless way.

[@Scaley_Reptile]

I see far more bad than good coming of it..instill trying to get over how addicted everyone is to smartphones.

[@fr0stw0lf97]

@@swoopskee at it's core the metavers was created to mess with the perception of people. If a world mimics our world so damn well no ody can tell the difference. Take a look at the lates Matrix game. The CGI is almost undistinguishable. Just think about it. And people warned us for so long about this, no being unfolded in plain sight like it's just a normal thing.

[@fr0stw0lf97]

@@Scaley_Reptile they will be addicted to an alternative universe. They wanna make life so horrible for us so that people will chose the metaverse. They will beg for a comforting cage to stay in forever. That's their goal at least

[@Scaley_Reptile]

@@fr0stw0lf97 I agree, and it's been coming a very long time. It's like when you tell people they want us chipped ppl say "oh but we will never agree to it"... They have a way of setting up circumstances where we beg for things we once despised.

[@ericspencer8093]

I was there at the dawn of the internet. At the optimum age for it in my early 20s, when my grandparents rejected it outright without ever even knowing what it was, and my parents dismissed it as a passing fad, and still only have a fumbling, cursory understanding, and for me it involves nearly every aspect of life. And now here I am, confronted by this metaverse and thinking, no thanks. Life has come full circle.

[@mortimerpenguin]

no dude, I can't remember a world without the internet and the "metaverse" is seen as utter bullshit in my generation and even with the zoomers too. It's a techbro-turned-investor's dream. a place to store surplus value. Nothing more. It won't come to fruition in any way the naive author of this video essay wants you to believe. And if something alike emerges, it will be a hypercapitalist dystopia and excluding everyday folk by design.

[@SteveFasano]

Except that in the early dawn of the internet, it was offered for free as an open communication platform run by CB Radio nerds, and now the metaverse is being sold to you and shoved down your throat by trillion dollar mega corporations. These technology revolutions are NOT equal.

[@BehemothPrime93]

This is absolutely not even a close comparison.

[@yumsoup3377]

@@BehemothPrime93 why not? we have no idea where this could lead in the next few decades, the same way that no one had a clue what direction gaming would end up going in the 70s-80s. but yeah I still think Meta itself is a dud.

[@ericspencer8093]

@@mortimerpenguin Yeah, dude, you can't remember a world without internet because you weren't born yet. But from your certainty about developing tech, it sounds like you could learn a little something from history.

[@apr2499]

Here’s a thought, each generation tries to be different from the last. What if the next generation decides that the real world is better than a fake meta verse and they just shun the whole idea?

[@notyourdays]

ikr

[@MrTony755]

nice thought dude

[@kenbrunet6120]

Whatever caters to human character will be widely accepted. We are a species that inherently values the path of least resistance for one. Also, we can not stand loneliness. If a virtual world caters to those things it's inevitable.

[@gamerman7276]

Nobody actually thinks that VR is better than real life. That's like saying you think television is better than real life and you're going to live inside a TV.

[@RabidDisposition]

Why is everyone so neurotic when it comes to VR? Why does it have to be one or the other? Having a virtual reality to visit in no way negates actual reality. There is plenty of room for both realities in this existence. Stop seeing everything like it's a black mirror episode and just enjoy the technology. They're fvcking toys, man

[@Bitt3rh0lz]

I find your excitement about the "Metaverse" very adorable. The disconnect from reality is dazzling. In no way, shape or form will theree EVER be a hyper-connected platform which supports a majority of applications and allows you to seamlessly transfer them from one application to the other. Thats because applications are self contained, and there is no universal standard as to how things like items, cosmetics, avatars and so on are handled. Creating such a platform would be an absolute gong-show of incompatibilities, overhead and disputes over things like item properties. Its the age old problem of Standards: *There are 14 different and competing standards for X* Some Dev Team: "WHAT! Ridiculous! We need to develop a unified standard for X that everyone will use!" *There are now 15 different and competing standards for X*

[@lukepotts9511]

but everything condenses, its akums razor, the simplest standard for x will be the one everyone uses.

[@Bitt3rh0lz]

@@lukepotts9511 Except that isnt a reality in tech spaces or we'd all be writing code in a single set of highly specialised languages, using one specific set of libraries and there were no different in-use patterns that achieve the same overall thing (E.g. MVC and MVVM). Why is there 10+ different programming languages for scripting if one would suffice? Why are there Several Linux distros if one would suffice?

[@ConnorNolan]

@@lukepotts9511akums 😂

[@ConnorNolan]

@@lukepotts9511Occam’s Razor has more to do with deduction and problem solving, and it means a simpler solution is more likely than a complex one. I don’t think this is the same for tech, because each company wants its own walled garden where they control the space. Unless Apple and Microsoft merge with every other tech company, I don’t think we’ll even see such seamless cross-platform content. It would require so much extra work coding every item into every game for not much benefit.

[@DKSubconscious]

The issue with all of this and remote working virtually is they can now see logs of ALL your physical actions within the work period. So obviously you disconnect for bathroom and lunch break but for everything else it’s like have a screen reader for your work actions which can be calculated into micromanaged charts of staff performance. More company control over its employees externally!

[@SethMethCS]

#WeGoWithinWeWin

[@darkveil5821]

exactly. And theres no getting away from it unless you choose certain professions.

[@DKSubconscious]

@@darkveil5821 alas I’m a front end developer so it’s game over for me 😂 unless you can work out meeting the hourly amount over the course of the 24 hour period.

[@darkveil5821]

@@DKSubconscious Awesome job but yeah your screwed lol I trade stocks and crypto and mine. I chose jobs where I can be my own boss. it's the only way. You should switch to mining!

[@abram730]

The headsets will be linked to the work domain. Companies will buy licenses for that. AI will be able to interpret and quantify productivity. The main driver is the ability for management to better manage remote workers though. More meetings people wished were just emails.

[@BaronSenf]

The question with any product is "how does this help me, what problem does it solve, how will my life be better?" I still don't understand the case for a metaverse in the first place

[@MockManor]

100% agree with you. I can see how augmented reality could increase productivity because of availability of information in real-time. I’m not seeing how productivity can increase with a meta-verse.

[@Strausburg]

Don't you see how convenient it will be to hand over all of your data and personal info to Zuckerberg? So much more efficient than Facebook.

[@vaderguitarplayer]

If you think of Ready Player One, the appeal is being something else for a few hours. That does happen with games, but the main character is you now, more than ever. If they figure out VR properly we will have completely immersing worlds in a matter of decades. I have hundreds of games and am just bored when I scroll through my library, even with the many that I haven't even touched. It's too separate from me. I'm at a point where I want to BE those things. I think that idea will be appealing to many. Doesn't make it right or wrong, just a possibility that is perhaps more enticing than another. Why is D&D more appealing than a video game? Even the ones without any visuals? To many It's because of the immersion.

[@alkaholic4848]

Some people are acting like strapping one of these crude massive headsets to your face with primitive tracking of your limbs is the "next big thing". It's not, it's the next bomb thing. It will be one of those many many tech fads that we look back and laugh about a decade or so from now. "Can you remember when people were acting like those clumsy big VR headsets were the next big tech thing? Lol lol lol". They have a place in the world - geeky enthusiast gamers, bestiality sex creeps, people who never wash, etc - but they don't have a big place in the world.

[@cameronramsey1416]

​@@alkaholic4848 Nobody thinks that crude massive headsets or primitive limb tracking is the "next big thing." The next big thing will be headsets which aren't crude or massive, and limb tracking which isn't primitive. People will joke about "clumsy big VR headsets" in the same way that we joke about dialup internet.

[@shayannahrvar1582]

I'm baffled by his point following "Isn't the metaverse just a video games?" Which is followed up with literally everything that already exists in current games: immersive environments, virtual economies, customizable avatars... what's the new part??!

[@Chuyu]

metaverse = video games for normies thats what it is there for its new

[@brycedaugherty9211]

There's no difference. Even when it's mastered fully, and fully realized for all to use, it'll be no different. It's a fancy video game for people to play. The advancement of hardware to make it feel more realistic, one step at a time, getting us closer to a full on simulation environment. Then it'll be better. I'm thinking of movies like gamer or ready player one. That'll be the next level, until then it is just a virtual hangout

[@flickeringpussycat2043]

Wait for ModiVerse

[@gianlucamelis9417]

amogus

[@rolandtennapel5058]

The data in games are generated by the game, a server, other players, etc. Nothing new. Even Mixed Reality on Windows allows you to plug in 'smart' meters, televisions and other home appliances, so the television decodes the signal from your provider and feeds the screen output to your computer. Again, nothing new. In business, VR is used to design, develop, build your own workstation just the way you like it without it requiring it buying new furniture or being limited by building size, greatly increasing the production value per person. Again, nothing new (and not something you might want to plug into a metaverse, especially if it's also connected to your actual production machinery or finances). What is new is the implementation of these 3 into 1 virtual environment, both off- and online. The principal has been explored for decades in games (within games within games), movies, books, developer showcases, etc. It's just the implementation that is beginning to take shape, but it is still a LOOOONG way off before we get to that point where most people work with VR, AR or similar / combined technology. Just think about, during the CoVID pandemic, how many businesses allow and implement working from home. That alone already is a huge issue, talking to others with a webcam that not everybody has, through a microphone that not everybody has, over a stable internet connection that not everybody has (especially the US, or so I hear 😁). This is not going to happen anytime soon 😉

[@stuartfox8499]

John, Your KZbin videos are not only interesting but your delivery is a sweet mixture of enthusiasm and urgency. This makes them compelling!! May you prosper in spite of the recession and inflation.

[@realbobbyaxel]

John is a brand and brands don't get hurt by inflation. A lot of them thrive under inflation cuz the competition withers away.

[@guydreamr]

He's awful enough in real time, the thought of encountering Zuck in virtual reality terrifies me to no end.

[@jinbun6501]

Not only that, ZUCC would be our lizard overlord in Metaverse

[@Palocles]

Not sure how egotistical he is but I can imagine him making virtual copies of himself like Agent Smith. He’d be everywhere.

[@smithvr5007]

He's alright. If absolute power absolutely corrupts, he certainly did a good job of keeping it together. I've seen "nice" people become terrible with way less money.

[@rosesongoku6980]

At least you’ll finally get to see his true form. Or maybe the first stage of it. *_COUGH FRIEZA_*

[@mickavellian2284]

Why exactly would it terrify you? did you actually believe his (or Soros) could run on Dictatorial platform?

[@lanetimepditty]

A true metaverse has to be decentralized, like the internet. The metaverse will be a substrate that companies, and individuals can build on freely.

[@TheMrSlyxx]

I couldn't agree more. Don't give this Zuckerberg the golden keys to monopolize your entire free time. He will use it to enslave you.

[@ofAwxen]

This is absolutely true, the metaverse needs to resemble early web 1.0 where most websites were self-hosted. It also needs to blend with web 3.0 principles, where, instead of hosting content on one's own single-point server, hosts in on a blockchain.

[@PythonPlusPlus]

There goes another person chucking out random key words, thinking they know what it means.

[@rindodenervoso6475]

@@PythonPlusPlus and there goes the master mind, stephen hawking's successor, the fear of einstein, laying its legacy of knowledge and constructive criticizing in the youtube comment section, i am trembling just to have the honor to speak with you truly genius of the universe.

[@rindodenervoso6475]

And Ty Lane, you're absolutely right.

[@manusartifex3185]

Metaverse has to surpass the possibilities of a game like GTA Online, and have graphic quality like Matrix Awakens

[@unknowncrypto596]

You’re right. Just not on the graphics as of within several years. The main principle here especially when it comes to metaverse (building within the metaverse) and console(gaming)… on consoles you wasting your time/life and throwing away your money. “In the metaverse” you will be able to spend your time productively also have an income you could play.. play to earn games.. gamble.. flip nfts have your own store.. your own brand.. own land etc etc There are a lot of cons DONT get me wrong this shit is crazy but if things do turn out to be greater than our expectations do believe many will be living within the mateverse. Regarding investing.. I’d 100% be investing in the metaverse just make sure.. DYOR and only only put down what you wouldn’t mind losing on a rainy day 👌 as far as gaming if spending and making money is built in then I’d say both will have there own communities and both would be a smart investment.. as we are all still early.

[@msabedra1]

Dont forget the haptic feedback bodysuits and smellavision

[@Silonomono]

@@unknowncrypto596 Metaverse is 20 years away. Atm it's just the internet

[@Frostsickle1989]

@@unknowncrypto596 have your own land.... you are very confused...land is physical not digital.

[@MarkWalmsley]

Exactly, I keep telling people that barely anyone solely plays one game for long periods. They move from game to game, so if there are constantly games that allow you to play to earn then they will skip to the next best thing. Play to earn is the only reason people may stay in a game when they dont want to really play it but it pays, however if a new one turns up that is better but pays slightly less they will go where the fun is. Also people have been talking about "life like" graphics for years and we still arent anywhere close to real life. For what reason sitting with a VR headset on for long periods is an awful experience. I had a PSVR and after the intial fun I had which lasted for only about half a day, I couldnt play it because the combination of unclear graphics and motion which isnt normal for the mind to experience made me not want to play it. I think we are a at least 20 years away from really life like graphics but I may be wrong. Ever new gaming upgrade is better but its just slightly better compared to what came before, there is never a massive jump in graphics.

[@Narc0YT]

I think the biggest step in the adoption of metaverse will be a completely stable Neural link allowing anyone to hop into it at any time - the building blocks will keep happening in the meantime, but more and more people are going to want to access it instantly without a bulky ( or possibly in the future not bulky at all ) headset / glasses.

[@DataLog]

Your word salad means nothing.

[@MD-ow3nc]

you really think anyone will care about some virtual reality bullshit in a world where most people won’t be able to eat anything anymore 😂😂 y’all are so damn naive

[@redherring9444]

yes , Elon Musk was left out here ,

[@lukepotts9511]

@@DataLog its only a matter of if there are more people like you or like @Narc0 , if people want it it will happen and they will want it as soon as they see someone else want it. if the average person say the president neurally connected to whatever tf, theyd want to be neurally connected to whatever tf

[@protector9513]

I would like to add that Microsoft tried to buy discord, if this happened Microsoft would be getting a valuable player in both the communication and gamming industries. Yes they failed to buy discord but it paints a picture of their strategy.

[@googlegoogle9712]

Discord is CPU heavy garbage. I wish TeamSpeak took off.

[@Shrekalyze]

@@googlegoogle9712 sucks to suck I guess

[@christerjohanzzon]

Discord is nothing but a pimped version of Chromium browser, that Google created, and the uses the Electron framework which GitHub created. So, since GitHub is now Microsoft...you can see how they might be going for Discord by other means, or develop a whole new kind of Discord....one that does not suck all of your CPU resources.

[@SupaMC_Gaming]

@@googlegoogle9712 team speak is garbage. I’d rather my IP not be displayed publicly to people who DDOS. Discord is safe, teamspeak isnt

[@vullord666]

Microsoft has always wanted a major social media platform to make their focus.

[@scottgust9709]

its hilarious to even hear about the "metaverse" people dont want it at all...the world is already physically disconnected enough and people are realizing it

[@diablo.the.cheater]

The funny stuff is that a metaverse would be more physicially connected thatn what we have now, at least in a proper vr social platform, your normal social instincs work normally like when you are in person with other people, and unlike in traditional social media. So a vr Social network or chat is actually a lot more personal and "physical" than what we have now that is basically text, voice or video. This is due to the parts of your brains that are in charge of social interaction working better in a space the brain mistakes to be physicial even if it isnt than when seeing a flat screen, that a big part of your social system doesnt work correctly.

[@abgrafix]

@@diablo.the.cheater i see a point there 👍

[@bezvezenetko]

@@diablo.the.cheater i am not going into that crap

[@lawrencelopez9839]

as we can learn from Secondlife, Whirled, Towers Unite... the metaverse will just end up a ghost town while many people use it there's still going to be a lack of interaction.

[@FalconWindblader]

Your comment is as valid as the masses back in the 80s say that they don't want computers at all. It's NOT about what individuals want here, at least not initially. When your environment has gotten used to something & has gotten it integrated into just about everything, the individual would, for most part, get sucked into adopting it, or get off grid in a very literal sense. & Guess which option would most people take at that point.

[@generalfeldmarschallpolycr8118]

"The ability to interact with millions of people all in a virtual world" Me who already learned what happened last time we do that: *Laughs in VR Chat chaos*

[@MeatCatCheesyBlaster]

Yeah but now imagine it with Q anon moms with Minion avatars

[@Brmeel]

We are not sure how the meta verse will work, if it’s going to be a VR headset or a lens in the eye because you can definitely see mark Zuckerberg without a VR headset in that video

[@Emergencynamechamgedjjcus]

Part of it even looked like rec room lol

[@kvasir8931]

Metaverse has already been plagued by "sexual harassment".

[@hsandev8972]

@@kvasir8931 welcome to the internet :D

[@zer0b0t]

One big issue other than using heavy, hot, crusty headsets is that a lot of people will have headaches, dizziness and eye issues, hopefully they don't expect to add wireless radiation to devices that go right next to your brain...

[@ChimpRiot]

I’m not interested in the metaverse for work or gaming, but I’d imagine Microsoft is best placed for it.

[@Snobdude]

I wouldn't underestimate brands like Sony, Apple, Epic/Tencent, Rockstar etc.

[@Peeoto]

I need it for work thought, all the meeting would be so much better, way easier to get the customer’s attention.

[@keeperscove8056]

i laughed so heard when i first heard about Facebook wanting to make a VR AR game caled METAVERSE i laughed so hard i fucking shat myself because they dont know shit about gaming nor the people who play games and there so out of touched from the gaming community that i dont see why anyone would expect Zuck to even bring the content gamers want he will fail and Microsoft will win because atleast microsoft is intouch with who they sell games too.

[@iamtheiii6625]

@@Snobdude most definitely rockstar. There probably the most un reliable out the whole grouping of names there.

[@chucknorris277]

I cant type in the Facebook comment box without it fucking up. I'm sure thier VR will be flawless lol

[@mikeandersonwa]

I would much rather see Apple and Microsoft revolutionize the "Metaverse" style future. Honestly Facebook/Meta is far too data hungry, and problematic of a company. Facebook and Google will both be major players in the space, for sure, but I'd much rather see a more diverse landscape and more privacy centric companies helping shape the future.

[@RyoMassaki]

They are all data-hungry and they are all shit. i want a future where they don't have any power at all. Fuck those companies.

[@richardmillhousenixon]

Lmfao Microsoft is privacy centric. Good one 😂

[@beuman0]

Man no company on earth is more data hungry than Microsoft. It literally uses Windows to get everything from you. Even the way you use your mouse and navigate in your web browser. They have so much data they will soon be able to calculate the angle of your shit going out of your body towards the toilets if you see what I mean

[@nafnaf0]

I agree. I do not trust Facebook, Google, or Microsoft with my data and have no desire to give them more.

[@pvic6959]

I feel like google will play a different part in the metaverse. Their mission statement is "organize the world’s information and make it universally accessible and useful". They are likely going to be the ones that help keep people connected (google meet, google docs, etc. already do that). They probably wont host the metaverse, but they can help organize it, run statistics to publish (the "making it useful" part)

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

I honestly am very happy that -Facebook- "Meta" is failing, and they deserve it. They keep shilling their "Metaverse" and haven't done ANYTHING apart from it and a stupid brand name change.

[@tech_report_0868]

To top it all , when it comes to bots & shitty social media , facebook is the first name that pops up. It has been downhill for facebook from a long time...

[@martinhristov4476]

ok

[@user-yr4os6jz4r]

Facebook didn't do a 50 billion dollar stock buy back because the company is failing or needs money. They done because they are developing something big and they know it for a fact. The rich get richer. Buy Facebook stock right now.

[@millercreator]

Facebook is currently working on various haptic gadgets to enable people experiencing a complete and almost realistic immersion into the meta verse and guess who would need to buy them to play the line of immersive games Microsoft is potential proposing to create??? Facebook strategy is not even game creation or new software, Facebook strategy is to be the gate keeper and entrance into the metaverse, most definitely, there will de endless creator community and Facebook can’t at this point compete with that so instead of competing with something I don’t dominate or cant realistically dominate, why don’t i compete with what I actually have and I can realistically own…and since Facebook already dominates the social media space, why not just migrate it from web 2 to web 3 and make people spend twice the amount they already are spending and enter the metaverse using the best vr gadget which would be owned and probably even trademarked by Facebook???

[@louisking11]

Very uninformed comment. Keep it up

[@j121212100]

VR for office work is a guise to hide its real purpose. We communicate with various chat tools, skype, teams, symphony, webex, etc. As a programmer, a VR headset would interfere with productivity. Though for my hobby it would be nice to view my CAD models in VR headset since it is difficult to get a grasp of shape sometimes.

[@creatingmemories9370]

I been interacting in a virtual reality for 17 years, I know how it affects human behavior. Meta are talking about being aware of your home surroundings while you in VR so it scans everything in your home so you don't bump into stuff. That kind of data would be valuable don't you think.

[@fraufuchs9555]

Exactly! And that's why Facebook is so interested.

[@zerothunder2289]

How about... getting in your mind???????

[@bestaround3323]

@@zerothunder2289 I mean they can basically already do that if you turn on all permissions for Facebook and use your devices for everything.

[@memesfromdeepspace1075]

🤔 so ITS Tesla but vr

[@samuelhaverghast2442]

You can do that.. or you can do what I do and stay in a stationary circle

[@Lorenzconnok]

I'm a gamer and game developer for a AAA studio for 15 years and imo, the Metaverse is a dystopic future, not one that is actually desired. That's what makes it strange to be a future held by Zuckerberg.

[@Mike_Dubayou]

the metaverse its free. its called vr chat. its pretty cringe, but after enough whiskey its alright. far from dystopic id say.

[@V01DIORE]

@@Mike_Dubayou Yeah everyone forgets we don’t need some boomer corporate rubbish when we already have VRChat. People do internet things there, worrying about it being dystopian is about as concerning as worrying over books, tv, video games or the internet itself.

[@trading-university.]

agreed. It may be his dream but it is a very niche subset of the population that will think the same thing. Take second life for example, its massive to those who like that sort of thing but the average person has no idea what it is , and never will.

[@moosesnWoop]

IDK, with Web3.0 taking us into a new realm, he may be onto something interesting. It's not the avatar vibes as much as it's the fucking metadata he's processing each second. That's what the focus is on "meta-verse" - if you think about it, it makes sense

[@jout738]

@@choppiecortez8213 Yes VR minecraft for example is fun, when you bit feel your living in the minecraft world as lone happy man doing whatever you want there, but VR metaverse is booring shit world done by sociopath Zuckenberg, when there is just rotarded looking people there and then nothing else to do, when no feelings for example exist in virtual world, so it would be very booring and not fun, so I dont think most would buy this metaverse and Zuckenberg Metaverse is bit simple and booring, when he has not the expert knowledge to make better looking virtual worlds.

[@uva1312]

Honestly meetings online through a headset sound like nightmare. I feel like removing in person interactions to this extent will take away so much from what makes us humans. We already had a taste of that through covid, and I firmly believe that fancy graphics paired with a VR headset won't make the lack of (in person) interaction any better. All of this, to me, seems like a terrible fu***ng idea Edit: typo

[@mikeandre7364]

Either way, if we as a species gets sucked into it and it becomes a staple for business and life, y'all can guarantee that I'm going to become jobless and homeless.

[@Chopper153]

Boomers getting worried lol

[@Limpass610]

@@Chopper153 every leap in technology nowadays is coupled with human becoming obsolete. Self driving, automation Automation, cheap imitation of social interaction like social media, people spending hours on video games, people living life through limited sensory response Etccc Sure its your responsibility to manage your life and these tools. But its also important to note that many people live theirs through a screen. You dont wanna lead to a world, where people are getting raped outside and you are just doing tiktok dance in your virtual reality room

[@kevinmitchell766]

It's not worth trading privacy for convenience.

[@greenrabbit4075]

@@kevinmitchell766 I already hear them say: "Why do you need privacy? Are you a terrorist?!!" ^^

[@English_Lessons_Pre-Int_Interm]

I love 4K, thanks, but could you also do something with ghosting?; I can see frames, as if the frame rate is 15 FPS. Here for example: 08:15

[@senacht]

I’ve been in enterprise level IT for the last 35 years. This is one of the very few KZbinrs I’ve watched who can actually see what’s been actively going on in that environment and, more importantly, “gets” what he sees. Subscribed.

[@osah712]

He doesnt know what KILLED means. Killed means its already dead.

[@abram730]

MS has a lot of software presence. Meta said they would support domain servers, but MS certainly has more experience in this area and is in a better position to ensure better integration and that is less work for IT who makes recommendations. Remote employees are not going to be clambering for virtual meetings that they would rather be emails. However management wants to manage and VR can help. The employee wants higher freedom, higher pay and lower workloads, but management wants the opposite, and they make the decisions. It's a lot easier to manage when you can go into a person's space. Email tag and zoom is like cat wrangling. We will see who offers the better value proposition for remote management, remote team building, and ecosystem. The last one favors MS big time. I do hear that there is indecisiveness at MS on basic things like will they be putting out the hardware or just the software.

[@normandeux]

There's a killer to this Metaverse. -- Motion Sickness. I can only stay for max of 30 minutes wearing VR, more that that, I would vomit.

[@_yuri]

skill issue

[@SPECTRA890]

The technology is in infancy stage They will. Develop tech to circumvent it eventually

[@lazerlink2839]

what head set you got if its something shity like phone or quest then thats why to low hz get pc vr and it will get beter also you need to let your brain get used to it the more time you spend in vr the less sick you get

[@weirdwordcombo]

that's because it doesn't feel like real life. will only fix itsself 100% once we have brain implants.

[@amber9040]

As well as eye strain. I'm already short sighted; no way I'm wearing a VR headset for even 30 minutes every single day.

[@syedsuhail4736]

Metaverse is a problem, we really don't need metaverse.

[@williamrgrant]

Exactly. Social media is already toxic to our psyche. Now we need to be plugged into it like the Matrix? Ugh.

[@asomeprod6163]

I think we need a little less technology in our lives

[@youtuberz35]

We are going to start ignoring real problems

[@NotSadAwesomeInstead]

Yea I'm no fan either but It will happen eventually. Its inevitable at this point.

[@bluesniping399]

We don't need alot of things, but when it comes to money people lose all morals...

[@oliveiraluis3540]

To have something like what we see in Ready POne they will need massive effort and motivation beyond just money to develop the tech. They will need something new that can integrate new things at runtime, fast pace without breaking, in a way never before seen.

[@derekk.2263]

Ready Player 1 will never be reality. There will never be a platform like that that everyone is interested in. Most people are going to still prefer other hobbies.

[@ryanp0342]

As far as I can tell no one has demonstrated the need for “meta”. Video games allow you to pretend to experience things you couldn’t normally do. What does “meta” add or allow you to do that you couldn’t otherwise? Computers allow home users to complete task and find information easier. How does it improve this or make a similar metric better?

[@raytso]

I think a good example would be teleportation. Imagine a digital copy of the world where you can jump around easily/instantly, not just page to page but actual immersive environments. Imagine how that would change home touring where you open a door and your looking at another potential house 30 km away from the first one. Or window shopping a digital mall where you can “filter” which stores you actually care about or teleporting to the store you’re actually interested in. Imagine going to work as just walking through another door in the house. Imagine browser tabs as just a stack of files on the desk next to you, tab groups are now just a separate stack. Humans are naturally three dimensional creatures. I think the “meta verse” would break all the physical barriers you would normally encounter in a physical world. Whether that’s a good or bad thing for the future of humanity, that’s a whole other topic.

[@inquisitorwalmarius6650]

@@raytso thanks, the way you put it just makes me hate the idea even more. watch black mirror to get a faint idea why i feel like that.

[@micklane7306]

@@raytso ngl most of that just sounds like what vr chat already does so again not really anything new.

[@satriyanto6741]

@@raytso only works effective when metaverse 100 % effective in deceiving human perspective. that's why they need to share the fallacy from now on, to change human perspective so that human would believe that metaverse is equal to reality.

[@amanefujimiyasan]

For people who are depressed and bored (somehow), and many who want to escape the society in real life, example is those NEETs in my country japan, this will me very great for them. Online, they are given an avatar, that is, their exclusive, discrete identification in a virtual world they are going to. No one will know how they look like in real world, just maybe some guys with a handsome/cool design wandering around the metaverse. They don't have to think about their weaknesses being shown to another, bacause in this world of number, data and statistic, you have a loophole to virtually alleviate those problems, but only temporary, if you know what I mean. Escaping the truth, it is. In short, metaverse is beneficial for those type of people the most. (Sorry if my English is bad, I'm still learning)

[@SoFloAntonio]

I actually love that theory. Some people can know the future and have so much power, but yet fail to win in the race. However, I wouldn’t under estimate the power of Facebook. Though it’s true they don’t control the software and gaming companies that would populate the devices of the future.

[@jivey1]

That’s not a valid argument though. That applies to any incumbent

[@alwaysyouramanda]

The use of the Oculus quest and its dominance in the standalone market would argue otherwise.

[@Silonomono]

@@alwaysyouramanda Hardware means nothing. It's all about the software

[@exister]

And back when Bill Gates was talking about the internet & smartphones, someone would be saying the same thing you are about Zuc.. to not underestimate. I feel this whole video is put together to highlight the point: don't overestimate Meta(company). Because at the moment their strong hand is relying on the lay man to assume that the Zucerverse is too big not to win, the second that is doubted the house of cards falls.

[@Silonomono]

@@exister Yet Zucc is trying to create a meta verse thing. It already exists. It's called the internet

[@thomasfriedl3137]

Editor: How much footage from Ready Player One should I use? Also Editor: Yes

[@ЕвгениГеоргиев-т1я]

In my the only way for web 3.0 aka metaverce is if Neuralink creates a Matrix like level brain interface and build ..or with other companies...the Matrix...other than that..vr headsets can't compete with computers for productivity and...fun..they are an ad on...but the Matrix will not come without increasing the Output bandwidth of people by orders of magnitude.

[@KangJangkrik]

Plot twist: Mark Zuckerberg want that film to be a reality, so he will know everything (like... everything u do)

[@zetahurley294]

@@ЕвгениГеоргиев-т1я valve is releasing a VR headset to developers this year with a built in brain computer interface

[@AHA500]

Meta is a different beast. They control Facebook, Instagram, WhatsAp and etc.. Zuck isn’t a regular Evil villain. He’s going after all age groups not just gamers, he’s going after anyone online. What ever they are planning it’s gonna be big.

[@nikhilpranav6915]

Ayo, if the Zuckatron can start 1 project and get Microsoft to try it's hardest, I hope he doesn't stop.

[@xKarma_411]

"Metaverse" doesn't mean anything, it was an attempt to rebrand video games to people who aren't already playing games. On top of Facebook not having any experience or foot in the gaming industry there isn't any evidence of Facebook's winning anything to begin with.

[@fanban2926]

Yep

[@jackrussell108]

Nope your wrong... Do your research... C.A

[@xKarma_411]

@@jackrussell108 Facebook’s vision is to create a self sustaining ecosystem that will be heavily emphasizing Social Hubs & Creators Creations Tool’s. Literally the backbone of any social game that already exist as of right now. Vrchat & Roblox are two examples of what Facebook’s Metaverse is vaguely trying to aim for. Nothing revolutionary in the aspects of video games the only thing that will be “revolutionary” is the further evolution of how Facebook gathers data. voice, interaction, conversation, and contacts will all be gathered within the space since the traditional way is being regulated.

[@xthelegend89]

@pyropulse you act like that’s not the point. I hate to say it, but when a good chunk of the country is people who must have the “new big thing”, it’s the smart business move to make. Look at Apple and all the people who keep updating their phones every year even though they won’t use the features they’re supposedly upgrading for.

[@BilionaireBoysSwag]

@@xKarma_411 Basicaly Roblox for grown ups is what I gather Metaverse is. But as the video says I think Microsoft already has an inside track on this. My company is already shifting to Teams. I think Facebook is a declining product right now. Metaverse is something that is trying to get them to scramble back to relevancy. No one can really predict the future on who will win this virtual workspace but my bet is on Microsoft over Facebook especially with Facebooks previous privacy controversies.

[@12Prophet]

From a gamers perspective, having a company that acts like EA (Electronic Arts) to buy the dev studio that makes/made the games you enjoy... is the easiest way to lose fans. Reputation matters.

[@samad4029]

but it also depends on the studio tbh. Given how awful Blizzard's reputation was during these past few years (especially with the harassment claims & corporate politics), a management switch might be a great way to leverage interests & build customer reputation (especially given how windows is synonymous with pcmr).

[@12Prophet]

@@samad4029 As cliche as it sounds, I treat my wallet like a vote. And since microsoft is one of the companies that goes out of it's way to make society more insufferable, I'd rather not give them any money whatsoever. Even if it's less than a drop in the ocean of cash for them, I just won't support them. I hate that art has become political.

[@CanIHasThisName]

It really doesn't. EA has been voted the worst company in the USA several times, they fucked up so many time, fucked over so many studios and franchises, yet they continue be one of the most profitable companies in the industry.

[@scifino1]

@@12Prophet That's the main reason I am using Pop!_OS right now.

[@12Prophet]

@@scifino1 Took a look at the OS and it looks nice. Though I think any distro would be fine (simply depends on user preferences). My main hang up on jumping to a distro officially and staying is the ability to run all of my games without issue. Having to jump through extra hoops just to get the gpu to play nice, etc. Got experience with Linux, just haven't fully invested time into all the nuances with linux gaming just yet. Don't want to test it with my main rig. Have a laptop, but that one already has a distro that I'll be keeping for the time being.

[@caracal9458]

In 1903 a bank refused to lend to Henry Ford saying "The horse is here to stay, but the automobile is only a novelty-a fad." What I find amazing is we are living in the most innovative time in human existence, people over 35-40 can remember having o cell phones, no internet, and then dial-up when it came out where you were limited to how long you could be online each day! Set TV schedules, video cassettes and having to go to cinema or video store to see a film you wanted instead of immediate availability, driverless cars, digital cameras instead of having to send photos away to be developed, etc etc and yet so many seem to still be skeptical about this Metaverse. One point I'd make is that it's not M'soft vs F'book, it's M'soft AND F'book, and many other companies all working on the same idea. Think of other industries online like social media sites, games makers, game console makers, cell phone makers, PC makers, operating systems. It's almost never one company owning all the pie so if you think of it that way, it's pretty risky betting against the Meaverse.

[@foolishus]

I highly doubt either of these companies will win "the war for the metaverse". It'll be some currently unknown company that, if they're smart, won't sell to either of these two behemoths.

[@user-qb9nq1mf2e]

❤️Contact me directly 📲 for assistance ✅............

[@cannabros]

exactly.. a true decentralized platform

[@keirebu3021]

Basically, The Sandbox. At the moment seems to have a good shot Decentraland was up there but was going stagnant, I haven't kept up with their updates as of recent.

[@libertocamil]

Don’t see how a nobody company could pull this off to be honest. I like the pitch for Microsoft for all the reasons mentioned but I feel like if Metavers comes out with no competition then it could easily automatically just become the default. personally I don’t want this to become a life thing keep it as an entertainment ting 🙏🏽

[@MrElmostudios]

@@cannabros lmao 😂. It's an SaaS (Software as a service). These types of ventures have no moat. If some indie studio makes a push into the metaverse, big studios will just copy them. 😂. Works the other way around as well with new battlefield like games taking over 2042

[@duncanwallace7760]

Teams will win the metaverse. No company is going to let facebook own their business collaboration systems. Microsoft is already in there and trusted.

[@maiznieksmaize]

Teams has to step up with their app then. I sigh every time to have to join meeting via teams.

[@duncanwallace7760]

@@maiznieksmaize Really? Its very easy at my work to join teams meetings. We've been doing it for a couple of years of work from home now, and its my favourite one to use.

[@marcopeterson805]

@@duncanwallace7760 then you should know what a piece of trash it is

[@myxsys]

Facebook/Meta shot themselves in the foot when they consistently sold personal data to other companies

[@duncanwallace7760]

@@marcopeterson805 I don't think there's anything better at the moment, even if you don't like it.

[@svenstylesz]

Metaverse or something like that will be a more downgrade on us than Social Media. And Social Media is one of the worst thing that humans give to humans.

[@KAWASAKlBLAZIN]

I agree

[@MexicansLoveMeh]

@@m0xm36a3 damn

[@dracozain1023]

@@m0xm36a3 You know to much to exclude yourself from the list, what business have you created, or is it just a hear so believe so another scam front, you typing paragraphs im sure your super busy in this comment section 😉

[@omegaman7377]

@@m0xm36a3 You believe that because you're too young to see the difference. The web is the great invention, social media has become is a perversion of this power: The refuge for the dumbest part of the humanity. A megaphone for useless morons with no life.

[@m0xm36a3]

@@omegaman7377 Yes, so emotionally unbalanced humans are still the problem.

[@BensCoffeeRants]

I don't think people really want to live in a VR world, where we interact with others there. For gaming sure, it's cool, but not something you want to do for long periods, the problem with VR is it takes you OUT of reality, blocking your sight/sound I think the future is going to be more in augmented reality, where you can have real life with extra info on your HUD.

[@arc7818]

I've never understood what a metaverse does that various other apps and sites don't already do. If I want to buy something, I go to that site. Centralizing literally everything into one digital service just adds a middleman. Some people talk about metaverses as if they're the future, but the way it's described honestly sounds like how someone from the 1980s would envision the future, not a modern tech user.

[@groovesan]

all that meta BS is just another vrchat/second life. The only difference it's promoted by a loud company (which will be gathering all your data)

[@asdfxyz_randomname2133]

VR allows applications that are currently unthinkable. For example you could have your chinese-learning study group in a virtual bar, where you interact directly with other learners. An AI teacher could teach you how to fly a Lockheed Martin F-35, without any risk of damaging a real plane, but with enough realizm that you could actually fly that plane in real life. There could be VR hookup portals, VR prostitution, VR dating, VR porn, VR AI-Sex portals where you'd have near-real virtual sex. You could learn to drive a car in VR space. You could have sessions with a doctor or psychiatrist online. You could have 3d-design-applications, where you really interact with the thing you're building. You could do all your studies in VR, providing you all the "physical" tools you need. Need a Raspberry PI? a 3d Printer? a CNC machine? a laser? That all can be simulated in VR. You could (learn to) do art in VR, without needing any material whatsoever. Now a metaverse is not really required for all these applications, more advanced VR is enough for that. But facebook wants your data, and if VR applications can be built very easily on facebooks metaverse, other companies might decide to build their VR applications for that platform, which will result in more data for facebook, but also better and cheaper VR applications from other companies.

[@groovesan]

@@asdfxyz_randomname2133 literally the every thing you've listed can be done outside the VR. Skype for online discussions/therapy/learning. Online pr0n is the PH, online prostitution is the onlyfans/patreon. Booths with driving wheels and 360* monitors for driving lessons. Simulators with the actual control panels of a plane for the plane flying lessons. Also, all of what you've listed is already have been done and is in the Steam VR/Oculus VR libraries/Patreon dev hubs. So that meta BS won't bring any *all-new original special never-done-before* features. It's gonna be just another apps store, made specially for Oculus users

[@aliengod3528]

@@groovesan Exactly 🤣

[@XMysticHerox]

The idea is web3.0. But the tech is not there nor is a single corporations product going to bring it about. Meta is just a very expesnive joke.

[@ViciousZee]

This makes me happy. Microsoft is so good in destroying products, there is hope for humanity's future to have someone still in real life....

[@robertclarkguitar]

Indeed. Too many sit idle and allow our world to change without individual consent. This is a societal hijacking of life. I choose to be no part. I'm too stuck in reality.

[@Pidalin]

Microsoft is the best in destroying his own products, like Windows, office.....newest versions are completely useless, ugly gui, stupid balast features which I don't want......I am probably too old in my 30 for this time.

[@timbodnar6711]

@Ao what a nice way of saying, I can't be my own person, and I have to follow the crowd.

[@jeffreyscottsgames9308]

@Ao no we really dont need a metaverse or vr

[@michaelboulware1240]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@unmotivated_might]

Not every tech is going to be a generational upgrade. Take 3D TVs for example, where companies were sure they would be the next step of video consumption. They were just dead wrong. Comparing the global effect of VR to computers is like comparing apples to oranges. What could be done in VR is so much fractional than what general computers can do.

[@hellomoto4906]

With that being said - imagine spending a few hundred thousand on a picture of an ape.

[@anythingoriginal]

What "can" be done, is far different than what will be done. Too closed minded.

[@DaMoniable]

Yeah. The biggest thing here is the huge disconnect that a lot of gamers have with the rest of the world. They see the numbers but only part of them. In reality, VR is just a toy in the eyes outside of gaming, and thats because its always been for gaming. This kind of social norm will be incredibly difficult to change, and that change most certainly isnt with Metaverse, especially with its close tie with NFTs actively kurt cobaining it every step of the way. If anything Metaverse is only further damaging any chance of VR becoming more than what it is, which honestly there wasnt much of a chance to begin with, when AR or Augmented Reality is a much more enticing opportunity that has been slowly growing over the last decade, and is already in the hands of every single individual who happens to have a phone.

[@anythingoriginal]

@Davis if they get to the point it can feel like your in the game, I don’t think glasses or even eyesight will be necessary anymore.

[@TheFallinhalo]

@@anythingoriginal BRO video game companies find it a struggle to even support a couple hundred people in a single server without countless issues, and you exspect this virtual seamless world to support BILLIONS You are incredibly naive and possibly stupid. by the time this tech would be feasible itl be outdated or no longer needed. my guess? itl be possible to send our conscioussness into a actual virtual world before Mark suckerberg ever managed to get this horrendous abomination off the ground.

[@yothiga]

One thing I think confusing me is: isn’t Metaverse supposed to be connected to each other? I thought it’s gonna be something like internet but in 3D. As soon as we have some exclusive games that you can play only on one platform, that will disconnect one portion of users. If I have to choose between Occulus and Xbox hardware to access my games then I’m not counting it as the true Metaverse.

[@Homme_De_Kro-mignon]

To be honest, I'm still sad that Microsoft gave up on smartphone. They had the potential to make something really cool and create an alternative for those who had enough of Apple but don't like Google (or vice-versa).

[@Sumesest]

I mean Microsoft explorer kinda flopped, and so did firefox, so i dont think the phone would be any good

[@LuhWhippaSnappa]

I genuinely loved the Windows Phones! I had a Lumia 920 before I broke it while riding my bike. It had potential. RIP.

[@vicious12394]

Smartphones, im still disappointed that they gave up on the zune.

[@kellychristus2496]

@@vicious12394 Ditto

[@coryleblanc]

why

[@gintomino4136]

This could be good for games. I don’t want this taking over the entire life of humans. I still miss the normal life disconnected from the internet and stuff. Enjoying nature and physical presence.

[@LunaticTheCat]

I don't think it will. Like 3D TVs I think it something that the general population will overwhelmingly reject.

[@iceman_twitch]

Nobody cares about the metaverse its falling apart right now in the stock market. Many users are deleting their own account because their apps are useless for making a business anymore there are better platforms now. Also for gaming play 8 ball pool omg its a joke.

[@cantthinkofaname5046]

@@LunaticTheCat No, vr has already been adopted widely, Zucc is just fucking this up. This is a good video game technology, but VR as a metaverse is stupid

[@LunaticTheCat]

@@cantthinkofaname5046 No it hasn't, the amount of people that have VR technology is just a tiny fraction of the overall population.

[@cantthinkofaname5046]

@@LunaticTheCat dude, there are 7 billion people on earth, when you compare it to that number all tech sales look small. what kind of point even is that? secondly, for a technology still pretty recent it has blown up in a way that's hard to ignore

[@argusfest]

So interesting hearing people talk so excitedly about the death of natural and unmediated life. About its replacement by synthetic representations controlled by inhuman corporate entities serving capital. By the way, not being tied to hardware means being tied to someone else's hardware. It means being a renter who can be cut off at anytime. There's also the issue of the destruction involved in mining, production and energy use all this requires but whatever, ain't it cool!?

[@clashofqueen93]

I agree. As fun as it sounds being part of fantasy....this is a nightmare to me.

[@stanimirborov3765]

yea the terminator matrix

[@andybaldman]

Yep. Glad to see more people getting it. Just say no to this shit, and say yes to being human.

[@stanimirborov3765]

@@andybaldman it is inevitably as Neo put it.. it can be a good thing too. theres minsues and bonuses in everything, but eitehrway its inevitable..we're going towards more PC progressino..if we want to leave the planet some day, thats the ultiamte goal..continue human race and earth wont behere for ever, im not sure if paralel unvierse are true and black holes exist, i do believe in black holes, paralel unvierses..amybe traveling through wormholes/black holes, i dont know if we'll erach the technology but we have to try.. or we'll inevitably try, probably.

[@codymercer7470]

@@stanimirborov3765 I also believe we can, as a society, find a positive and non self destructive method to use/incorporate such tech. BUT too I think that every last Oxygen breathing, substance requiring, NON ALIEN-LIKE human being alive today can all agree on 1 thing entirely 100%, nearly all 8 billion humans, & that is ZUCK is NOTTT that method. The exact opposite of that method, he is actually the epitome of what a real life cartoon villain would do of they became filthy fucking rich on a planet they just got to and can barely even blend in on yet. Dude is WAYY off and creepily evil af. It is just such a blatant villain-esque move to be known as the above sentiments and then really make a move on a corp. such as the Metaverse. If yall mfers cause this to succeed then society is fucking done for put a damn knife in it.

[@OneTinyDancer]

Listenign to this guy (was presented to me at random) I realized he is trying to speak to those people outside the industry. All the information he is vloging is out there, or better yet speak to someone actually in the industry. This kid is "guessing" quite a bit. We're working in this tech, and pretty much figuring it out as we go. We're not 100% sure where we're headed today, but we have a good direction.

[@bamdadkhan]

don't really know which is scarier: a metaverse dominated by facebook or one controlled by microsoft.. tbh i hope neither will become a reality

[@EliminateSir]

Scary indeed but it is your choice whether to purchase it to use it or not. For me I will purchase it for fun usage, but to actually get addicted to it, God help us all..

[@bamdadkhan]

@@EliminateSir not really mate. if companies adapt these products as part of their required toolset you can either become a renegade or give in if you want to earn money.. as you said, god help us all..

[@splashtics]

​@@EliminateSir if u buy it, you will eventually get addicted, like how if some kid gets a phone for the first time just to play games on it, he will eventually become addicted, like how us humans are addicted to social media and our phones nowadays. I do not recommend purchasing anything. the real beauty is right in from of you, just look into the sky and see the light in the little things.

[@brycedaugherty9211]

Even if they both fail someone will take their place. It's inevitable at this point

[@vivekrao13]

You already use os made my Microsoft or apple. Kinda hypocritical worrying about the metaverse no?

[@SmasherHell]

Microsoft could have been the winner on every prediction if ballmer wasn't so focused on windows supremacy. Since ballmer left, azure has become a thing, investing massively in linux to hit a larger population, and resulting in WSL integration. With Satya microsoft can really be a game changer for the second time

[@JFrusci]

Couldn't agree more! Microsoft's share price went from $20 in 2010 to over $300 today.

[@justice929]

Azure runs on Linux. As far as an OS for the masses no...

[@jgons]

@@JFrusci pretty sure there was a split in there too

[@SmasherHell]

@@justice929 azure runs on windows azure hypervisor a specially designed hyperv

[@minotaurbison]

"most people associate Meta with their crazy uncle who posts unhinged rants on Facebook everyday"... it's nice to see my efforts haven't gone unnoticed.

[@grasthube]

it boils down to the simple questions: would you rather spend your time in Second life VR edition (meta), with nothing to do and infested by furries, or play actual VR games and enjoy yourself?

[@kevinschaefer3945]

Here's a novel concept: How about spending time IRL?

[@Patatifique]

xbox is openly against vr and microsoft thinks it's going nowhere. Meta will be where it's at for vr gams, it already is, xbox is so out of the loop. The vr revolution is happening and microsoft isn't having any part of the cake

[@Patatifique]

@@Thisguy12345-m someone has never read or seen anything about vr lmao

[@Patatifique]

@@Thisguy12345-m and you haven’t noticed the lack of anything vr related from mircrosoft, while companies like meta are outselling the xbox with vr headsets. The xbox president literally said like a year and a half ago that they wont do vr cause "no one cares about vr"

[@DaMoniable]

actually, we already have that. Its called Neos and VRChat. Why invest in shit programming thats going to nickle and dime you to death with toxic NFT bullshit when you could just enjoy it for free?

[@homebrewvr3163]

As someone who worked on vr, I can say it will be quite a while before there is any highly available/consumable vr tech. Betting on vr dominating all tech near term is just hype

[@arachosia]

Yeah, if people are thinking this will be anything like Ready Player One....well, you got a looooooong wait ahead. We're basically in the infancy of VR. And while video games certainly look very good now, they are not indistinguishable from reality and then AI is still primitive. I think we have 20 years to go, assuming technology continues to advance at a similar pace.

[@junehanabi1756]

@@arachosia UE5 is indistiguishable from reality because they wiped away most of the limitations of video game design. Lighting is now highly accurate and polygon count doesnt matter anymore meaning you can have as high detail as you want with no shortcutting to cut down polygons. Combine that with a new particle system and drop in humans and realistic damage. Yea, video games can be completely indiscernable from reality now and I imagine it won't be long before it other games engines implement it.

[@arachosia]

@@junehanabi1756 I’ve seen lots of UE5 stuff. Yes, it looks much closer to reality, but you wouldn’t fool me with it for a second. Even if they can create 100% photorealistic graphics, the display tech in the headsets cannot replicate the intensity of light that the human eye can perceive, so that alone will make it obvious that you’re in a game. Also, there’s no good solution for walking or feeling things yet.

[@stryfegamingonline7583]

That's because you're looking at the future being ultra high resolution. Minecraft has graphics so bad I get motion sick and it's still one of the biggest games in the world. I agree with the premise though but it's not because of resolution or realism. It's motion sickness.

[@witoldschwenke9492]

@@stryfegamingonline7583 Many games are hardly playable for me because either the sound quality is horrendous (assassin's creed valhalla) or the frame rate isn't nearly high and stable enough to be bearable. Or in some games both sound and frame rate works well but then other issues arise like lag. I am having a hard time imaging VR being any good when a 2k display and a high end gaming rig is so hard to deal with.

[@maxfalconi6995]

We need an artificial environment to interact with each other because reality is unbearable, enter the Betaverse

[@garydrocella5652]

I know this is a joke, but this might not be too far from reality some day.

[@requiempurge530]

Then some lonely mofo is gonna create the "Sigmaverse" for all the other loners.

[@maxvoulgaris2160]

TRUUUUE.

[@stanimirgeorgiev.87]

Zuck's KILLED Metaverse by himself.

[@MAjaLeahHB]

i think i'll quit my job and grow houseplants for a living when my job makes me work in the metaverse. actual work and relationships feel entirely different in vr, so i think not just one company should decide on the reality we will eventually, at least partially have to live in. imagine facebook inserting itself and watching every single interaction. the things you can do with facebook today are scary, but imagine what marketers like me can do with these kinds of information and the opportunity to invade large parts of your life. and imagine what kind of people and companies might want to exploit this. I don't like it.

[@milld9345]

Yeah hopefully this will force us to get back to simplicity and ditch all this over-the-top tech stuff. I can’t think of anything worse than metaverse or being forced into it. That’s what Facebook is/was.

[@SignificantPressure100]

@@milld9345 you're so narrow minded it hurts lmao

[@paraphenaliac4657]

Good luck selling succulents by commission

[@Subzero-hh8ix]

Facebook app in smartphones is already a spyware, as meta technology evolves ZUCC will likely introduce goggles that can read brain waves and whatnot.

[@gzaos]

@@milld9345 you are right, every technologies that came from the last 30 years as push people away from each other. I mean physically, music player, video player, smart phone, video games, fake social app, the internet as a all. The scale of thing as gone so big and so unhealthy for all of us.

[@nonegiven2830]

The thing with "the metaverse" is that it's just stupid. I see very little reason to bother with it. Use a VR headset to go to a meeting, why not just use video calls? Go to a gig in VR? might as well just listen to the CD.

[@banihd6970]

I think you are right. Why would I buy Digital clothing? It is nothing worth if there is a huge crisis or a intenet breakdown

[@peterantonaros6461]

The last thing I want is to feel like Im in the meeting. I want to feel the comfort of my own space while I talk in the meeting.

[@fanban2926]

Yep I believe this is gonna flop hard.

[@memeeater420]

Not to mention the fact that VR chat already exists

[@DarrenSmith-j8m]

Vr is great for doing stuff you can’t do irl like shooting people in Pavlov and vr chat is also cool even though you can try and meet people in real life but why would I call people in vr that’s just annoying and video calling is easier

[@LikaLaruku]

The funny thing about MMOs, the massively multiplayer part, is that the overwhelming majority of players solo by choice, never join a guild, & never talk to anyone. If this asocial behavior carried over to the Metaverse, what kind of effect would it have?

[@TZ_1035]

I'd say that the Metaverse is going to be more like VRchat with business and work related activities along with real life app and website integration instead of it being like an MMO like 'ready player one'. Sure there would be games but it will just be a part of it. Imagine living inside your phone or PC, everything in it (Apps, games, social media) turned into a digital space where you can walk around or live in. My point being that the Metaverse will be a means of socializing rather than gaming, very similar to VRchat. The final objective for Metaverse will be to have you do everything inside it rather than using your computer or phone.

[@BelieveInUrself93]

It's kind of different. WoW for the most part isn't making these people asocial. They already are, and they go into the game that way. Meta would have people who are already sociable, going into it. Basically I see it as this, WoW is a game, with socializing as a secondary. Meta would be a hub for socializing, with gaming as a secondary.

[@witoldschwenke9492]

@@BelieveInUrself93 Meta would make the world more lonely bc people would avoid real in person interactions even more. There's a huge difference between sitting across from someone and seeing their entire body language and being able to look into their real eyes and some 3d version..

[@BelieveInUrself93]

​@@witoldschwenke9492 That's a way to look at it for sure. The VRScape of things right now lets a lot of those previously mentioned asocial people share a 3D space in a world they might otherwise not venture out into (or not be ABLED to venture out into). So for some people, it's giving them an accessible way to socialize on a level they're comfortable with. It's not what a meaningful social interaction might look like to you or to me, sitting next to a 3D avatar instead of a physical human body, but it sure is to them. For the rest of us who prefer the real life engagement, I don't think we could ever be swayed to live inside the metaverse anyways so it's nothing to worry about. I look at the potential for a metaverse with a lot of optimism and try to believe it could only ever remove barriers that cause isolation and loneliness. Maybe that's naive, who knows. Time will tell. But I don't think the world could get any lonelier than it is right in this moment.

[@salvatormundi5184]

Tariq Bin Ziyad very interesting take thanks !

[@the_kombinator]

11:00 - PCs required wallets back then - In 1991, a decent 486 would set you back a few thousand, only to be outdated when the DX2/66 came out.

[@Kholmi.28]

I hope I’m six-feet under by the time the Meta Verse becomes a norm in daily living like social media has ✌🏾 I’m good with it. 🚶🏾‍♂️

[@brycedaugherty9211]

Probably no hope of that. Within a decade we'll be sitting around drooling on ourselves with a headset on. So unless you're ready to croak we'll see you on the other side of this nonsense

[@Kholmi.28]

@@brycedaugherty9211 😖and you're probably right😒 Life off-the-grid is where its at.

[@aitoluxd]

Nah! I'm sure some people will reject this degeneracy.

[@syamkumarkaturi9761]

This is all rubbish sell gold buy platinum.hydrogen industry needs platinum as CATALYZERS.platinum is white gold...gold is not rare metal.There are so many metal every metal has their own uses..//....

[@brycedaugherty9211]

@@syamkumarkaturi9761 white gold is most definitely not platinum. You're a clown who's off topic and in the wrong place.

[@kunalgarg9343]

It's really interesting, in 90s everyone was betting on the information highway which was all about having a interactive television connected to the internet. Everyone thought that it is going to be the next big thing, after all television were ubiquitous and cable networks can provide a existing infrastructure for internet. But that never happened. Although we are using internet now but through PCs and smartphone. A new Technology will definitely find it's way to our life , platform/ medium can be different.

[@joefeyereisen6765]

i disagree. All new TV's are smart TV's. so we browse and use them differently than we thought 20 yrs ago. not to replace pcs or game consoles but far more than just a "boob" tube

[@dalelane1948]

The metaverse will ultimately be built upon blockchains. These centralised, data harvesting dinosaurs are just an on ramp for boomers. Blockchain gaming companies are where the real metaverse begins (read Mana, Sandbox and Illuvium).

[@Brain_Food-]

We'd be far advanced technology wise if Capitalism didn't exist to control the masses for a secured profit. Back in the 1960s people thought there would be flying cars in the 2000s. Not the case when Capitalism is involved.

[@abhaypatel4292]

@@Brain_Food- I disagree with that..I think it's more related to global expansion and lack of a competitor in the world... technology isn't just related to life and enjoyment a wide aspect of geopolitics and global influence too come in the play..we have seen that competition in automobile industry,but lacked that in technology companies...with rise of China and it's ambitious plans I think the government too will push for compition and innovation..tough and exiting times are ahead

[@Brain_Food-]

@@abhaypatel4292 There is no competitor if it's a monopoly through Capitalism. These companies have evolved to protect their assets. Any company that comes out swinging will get put out of business real quick.

[@fundemort]

When a company bought another company. It didn't just buy the IPs, it also bought the entire people, the developers team, the combined brains.

[@artit91]

They mostly buy employees. You got it right.

[@user-yr4os6jz4r]

@Jay Ghee Owners of a company do not buy their stock if they are failing. Are you that naive?

[@Lightningkuriboh]

@Jay Ghee stock buybacks are considered to be one of the strong signs that the insiders believe in the company and want to create shareholder value

[@liginantongeorge]

Microsoft just announced partnership with Zuck's Metaverse.

[@jeremythomas1081]

What a well thought out video. I'm wildly suprised at the production, writing, and over all knowlege of this niech of a topic and the value of your vidoes is refreshing. Rather than trying to be something your not, or what many people expect, you double down on your own values and strenghts and it bypasses all expectations. Looking forward to more of you vidoes.

[@napalmholocaust9093]

The last memory I have of several people is them buried in their phones. The notion of community is false. This is the wrong direction.

[@solidcell6568]

It is interesting. Face to face is how its always been. A human kind of needs that connection. Although, the human is also an animal. And I'd like to think we are in the process of taming said animal and primal urges and desires. This need for connection as it has been is one of them. Being a part of a small tribe is an experience, but so is being a part of a global mass. And nothing sort of a global nuclear Armageddon will make tribe based operations the norm again. Sure, most of the time people end up filling each moment with stimulus that doesn't further the being itself to any meaningful direction. But it doesn't mean it always has to be that way. But it doesn't mean treading backwards is the way as well. The brain and mind transcends the flesh body and animal form that is a human. There is no need to limit yourself to the physical body when the mind is capable of much more.

[@bigshot1724]

Welcome to the end of the world! Nothing matters here except dopamine hits and your data!

[@Shesaphantomm]

hmm this "metaverse" idea will make us more social than we are right now. even if a lot of our interaction with each other is behind a screen, we still dont see each other unless its a video call and even then most people prefer to have their cameras off. 95% of the time I spend with my friends is through texting. With my family, it's through a phone call a few times a week. I think it would be a little cool if we can see and interact with each other virtually in whatever setting and doing whatever we want to do. especially when everyone doesnt live in the same place or have the same schedules. I doubt it will replace "reality" the way people are acting like it will. at the end of the day, unless they can completely replicate our senses and nature, we will NEED to go outside. No matter how great they make. a VR trip to the bahamas, most people will still want to go to the bahamas in person. it's just that most people CANT go in person. if the world were better and more fair, things like this wouldnt even be a threat because life itself will have all the excitement we need. but big tech targets our dopamine receptors because everyone is grasping for the thrill and happiness that capitalism has worked its hardest to take away

[@thebrightestsun4685]

When he mentioned Microsoft Teams I recalled the phrase "Meanwhile, Teams is the de facto communication platform in the corporate world, especially in a year where work has gone fully remote. I’m sure I could play the Teams message notification in a crowded room and give everyone anxiety at the same time." I remember when they were showing Windows 11 and teams call played, I immediately turned my head to my work laptop.

[@nafnaf0]

I turned my stupid Teams notifications off (which takes two steps), it is so nice. If someone needs to get a hold of me quick they call me. Long Teams messages are a huge waste of time anyone. A phone call is a much better way to quickly hash something out

[@TInyK12]

I avoid using teams at all costs.

[@persistent-programmer]

Google meet though..

[@sustoast]

@@TInyK12 This just means that 1. your company is small (which is fine haha), or perhaps falling behind - 2. you just use another collaboration platform *shrugs*

[@jamclone]

My school used teams for a bit. It's kinda lackluster in my opinion

[@nissimhadar]

How does the recent Microsoft-Meta collaboration fit into your thesis?

[@thatsmyjam8403]

it doesn't, he didn't had a clue about this

[@neanda]

I really like how you mention the concept of predictiing the future and exectuing on it successfully being very different things. I've often thought about this when in the 90s he was talking about the 'information highway; and also his book The Road Ahead. Although I never read the book entirely, it's just that MS were always predicting things like the info highway (IE, wtf?), smartphones (Win PC, wtf?) but could never get it right. I like your explanation as to why, that's very interesting and the first one that makes sense (that they were to tied to Windows), the same could be the case with Meta being to tied to facebook (most likely why he changed the name so early, learnt from Gates mistake). Cool channel, I just discovered it :)

[@attackoncake4851]

We live in a metaverse, where corpo's want to create a metaverse, all for the extraction of information and little green pieces of paper in our pockets.... I don't I'll ever understand any of 'this.'

[@WokeAFMillennial]

This.

[@ShawnJonesHellion]

Or literacy

[@PianoAchilles]

Facebook is going to dead but at the third day resuscitates as "Metaverse" from ∞Meta" kzbin.info/www/bejne/epfMqX2NfJ2gqsk

[@Thaimushroomdaddy]

This offers a great perspective that I hadn’t considered - I look forward to seeing how agile Microsoft can become

[@WQ94]

They should rename Zuck’s metaverse to Zetaverse. It perfects the stupidity

[@ahmedoji9608]

I just seriously think that if these two companies screwed all of us up, it leaves us no choice but to self-serve ourselves by creating our own technology without using theirs. As a guy working in tech, it is scary how your data is handled vulnerably by big companies. I saw many instances where data security is handled by outsourcing the job to someone OUTSIDE the company

[@sanjarproductions]

Don't watch this kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJKxe2aHm79nhcU

[@anotidaisheneilmisi904]

Ohhh, this is gonna be a good one! Quick question: how do you feel about the decentralised metaverses?

[@JohnCooganPlus]

Potentially more important than any Metaverse that will emerge from big tech, but they are all years behind at the moment.

[@anotidaisheneilmisi904]

@@JohnCooganPlus so true, and it's hard to keep up with the likes of Zuckerberg after the throne as well

[@masternobody1896]

@@JohnCooganPlus dude nobody cares about vr it is trash

[@jeremythomas1081]

@@JohnCooganPlus Actually, big tech is almost on track with their real goals that they are wanting. Its the population as a whole who is resistant to the values of this idea "Meta." Meta is the the fundamental shift in the human paradigm. This is were (TRANSHUMANISM) and the ideology comes into play that society as a whole is againsts. Yet, big tech is as ready as they need to be for it to become META. This is were the soon to be universal basic income, plays into a big part of Meta! While the world is ravaged by more Vatriants that will eventually over throw society as we know. This become such a strain on SOCIETY as a whole, that it will demand it ( META ). AN OUTLET TO FORGET ABOUT MORTAL STRESS, FEAR, ANXIETY of the consuming rages of every day lifes, that we will make the leap or transition into Transhumanism. Society will pay untold fortunes that Society has ever seen. An all encompassing challenge to bring Dociety to its next leap forward, to an eternal consumption..

[@urbexingTss]

@@masternobody1896 tell that to the hundred million of people anyway what are you doing here

[@scar3tactic]

Zuck's Metaverse is like digital Amway compared to what most have experienced, in truth the billions he'll lose will be the price he pays for making the world cringe.

[@ohokcool]

For real, people talking about it like the new internet is so cringe, someone gonna make a better metaverse than Zuck I'm sure

[@justoandres4911]

I do call Farmville a classic 2:01 . Stopped using Facebook when Farmville ended as many others had the same intention at the time. Meta will go down the way of the dodo.

[@phacelesshero]

Wearing VR headsets gets really old, really fast. Not fun to wear. Also, unless an online environment is constantly innovating and moderating in a positive way, things get super toxic/terrible. Good luck Zuckman!

[@Peterpeterpumpkineater1000]

Were talking the future here. Who knows if today’s VR headsets will be different/required. I would think possibly no? Also what you say plays into the computer argument of the 80s…”who wants that in their house?”

[@palapaquete2]

I got headaches when using the Oculus Rift S. I assumed I needed more time to get used to it, but that was not true for me. I am not getting near another VR. The whole headache experience is enough for not wanting to go back in again. Maybe if you start as a kid your brain gets used to it, but not for someone in their 40's.

[@ribaldi]

You’re absolutely right. VR experience is hampered by discomfort. It’s a huge problem. But that means it’s also a huge business opportunity when it is resolved.

[@phacelesshero]

@@Peterpeterpumpkineater1000 They've been trying to make VR headsets popular since the mid 90's. Still not happenin'. Even with the nicest modern headset, they still get lame after an hour or two. And without the VR experience this will basically be Second Life. At first SL was going to be used for all sorts of RL/business applications but since it was probably TOO customizable it became a haven for rude, bored hacker-trolls. Yeah, Zuch has some slim odds of making this work.

[@Peterpeterpumpkineater1000]

@@phacelesshero I really can’t agree to say this is not happening when it is (at least in the early stages) What I am saying is whatever the Metaverse is now or may develop into may become more appeasing down the road. Off the top of my head something like holographics/Tony Stark tech kinda interaction. Like still VR but somehow without the headset….or something widely more user friendly…and comfortable…etc. Now making it user friendly for all ages is a whole other sub-topic

[@Opacube]

Making a metaverse is my lifetime project and when I see Microsoft and Facebook doing it i'm thinking that it's gonna be a complete failure, they don't understand what recent people think and how they want to play, they are stuck 20 years ago

[@fr33kSh0w2012]

20 Years ago, Try 30 years ago and I'm 39

[@bigshot1724]

Please don't harvest my data, overlord.

[@Kevuno]

How are they stuck 20 years ago?

[@Opacube]

@@Kevuno making conferences with worse than the Wii's Mii characters says enough.

[@demonbasher23]

@@Opacube for the amount of data they collected and now store, the algorithyms they have and what not, I'm pretty sure they have some idea buddy. I don't think there will be a successful meta verse in my life time either. People don't want or need it. It will probably be cool at first. But our Reality as we know it is way more immersive anyway. In saying that what ideas/concepts do you have for your meta that you think they're lacking? Obviously don't give away all of your secrets.

[@AwokenEntertainment]

It's like a modern day arms race..

[@gamerman7276]

Except there's no arms. So it's just a... race.

[@vararii3068]

@@gamerman7276 i think what he saying is that in the new age, these will be arms..

[@gamerman7276]

@@vararii3068 Instead of fighting real wars, we'll settle conflicts in virtual reality? Somebody should give Zuckerberg a Nobel Peace Prize then.

[@mikejones-nd6ni]

No way .. and "Meta" is already here so what do you mean "before it launches" Microsoft cannot compete. Zuk is focused solely on this

[@kat2567]

I think stepping down as Microsoft's CEO might have been one of the best business decisions B Gates ever made. MS were quite late to join the internet market largely to his lack of vision, Gates just wanted to make software. But the speed in which they caught up is insane. Here in South Africa the cloud market is literally split in half between AWS and Azure, which was unthinkable just 2 years ago

[@OldRhino]

The thing about South Africa, and the rest of Africa, though, is that 95% of the population do not have access to and/or can't afford the technology, and will never be able to, because before they reach the point where they could, what's left of humanity will have been bombed back to the stone age.

[@vicdumoulin2909]

Hé nou ik moet nog onthouden Wat moet ik daar nog wel onthouden hè maar ik wil toch een beetje weten waar ik morgen mee moet nemen we allemaal niet meer praten oké

[@dadmobile960]

That is wild considering AWS owned the cloud.

[@kat2567]

@@dadmobile960 exactly. I think AWS build their first data center here in the 2010s, and recently opened one 2020. Could have my dates wrong but the point is Azure should not even be in the conversation and yet they are. A lot of companies are migrating to Azure

[@kat2567]

@@OldRhino I don't see the relevance of your point but ok.

[@MrDelliSanti]

I don't know if you are aware but people mod AAA titles going back all the way to half Life 2 into VR. I get what your saying about sales but owning the Meta App store where Indy developers can post their content is going to be the real money maker.

[@TheJroddude]

A real money maker, not “the”. Ya know?

[@joshthepatriot1869]

Nah

[@joshthepatriot1869]

They will just have the control of what devs can and cant create

[@AnArtistInAVoid]

@@joshthepatriot1869 more like what devs can and can’t upload on the store. Stores control distribution, not the creation process.

[@echo5226]

Gaming and metaverse makes sense. I don't see how Facebook can do the metaverse without the fantasy that video games bring.

[@soft-and-wet9788]

but vr games are not easy to make the like the only vr game that's really playable and do not make you vomit is half life Alyx

[@charlesmcdowell9436]

@@soft-and-wet9788 vr chat, population 1, re4, zenith vrmmo, saints and sinners....I could go on and on about good vr games 🎮 😉

[@soft-and-wet9788]

@@charlesmcdowell9436 i know there some games good games for vr but most of these are not vr original

[@fanban2926]

You don't need to make it to profit. Just facilitate it

[@econnak7909]

@@soft-and-wet9788 what do you mean by "vr original" most VR games are made directly for VR, and most VR games aren't uncomfortable to play either.

[@melissamackay9003]

I spent lots of time on the quest the thing people arnt understanding about vr is the majoritie of people cant play vr longer than an hour or 2 before eye fatigue or headaches set it. People spend so much time online or on games because tvs have been improving for over 100 years. People are raised watching tvs but a screen 1 inch infront of your eyes has strange effects on the body. I suspect after a few years of employees using vr full time the lawsuits will start.