NO MORE LINE TWIST with Spinning Reels

Spinning reels giving you twisted line and major headaches? Let John Crews give you the tips to fish spinning reels with no problems. Follow his how to demonstrations on how to fish spinning reels, how to put line on them, and explains the right lines to put on spinning reels. Be sure to comment if you have any other questions or comments.
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[@robertr2952]

This man knows how to fish....always gives awesome tips !

[@mikegardiner3934]

Hi John, been fishing for years and just found your channel a few weeks ago. Absolutely love the content and tips you provide. I will say, when I went to braid to floracarbon leader A few years back, complete game changer as I’m sure all will agree. Sensitivity is incredible. Tight lines!

[@gpharned]

Thanks John, I really appreciate the info and tips. You are very talented and knowledgeable fisherman!

[@kellysatterfield5384]

Great information for all of us to follow. Thanks for the videos and thank you again for your help. Have a great weekend.

[@brandonhermann2085]

Awesome video, I've been watching hundreds of videos about bass fishing and I appreciate how detailed you are I plan on watching them all I have alot of questions

[@parkernichols2263]

My little sister gets line twits in her spinning reel all the time thanks for the tips.

[@daveluhrs1504]

Thanks John - great tips!

[@2013brzsubaru]

Great tip, I have the right sized line, my problem was tip # 1. The tension tip makes perfect sense, thanks!

[@STMARTIN009]

People are also saying to soak the reel in warm water ahead of time but I am not too convinced about that. Thank You for the advice

[@basswhisperer4803]

Thank you very much for the tips.

[@John_D2]

Thanks , John !!

[@WildBillHabiki]

Tip 1 was new to me so thanks for that. My No. 1 advice to anyone is use braid to flouro, spinning or casting. It's unreal how much better it is than straight flouro.

[@stevejones9636]

I disagree always have to change leaders after pretty much every fish caught also the snags too 1 line less hassle

[@brianhart6978]

Thanks John. New subscriber, I like your teaching style. Love the FG know. I use Daiichi Seiko Knot Assist 2.0 for braided line to leader connections. Expensive but works great.

[@4ReelBassin]

Thanks man! I needed this. Just spooled up my reel with 15lb suffix braid & 8lb suffix flouro leader. Never used a Ned rig in my life but I’m going all in.

[@JohnCrews]

Regular Fisherman You can do it!

[@kencleg7721]

Just bite your worms -3 to 4 “ I leave the tail

[@mikefillmer2252]

Nice work John!

[@lunithespacedragon7197]

Thank you very much for this video John I have that problem

[@theman.6396]

Great video man keep them coming!

[@CumminsN14DBest]

Good video Dawg!! When He Says "Big Line" he means (For those who don't know) it's the *"Line Diameter size"* that extremely important y'all, Make sure you look at the diameter of the line. It should be display on the box, on you can simply find it online

[@sharonyosef6386]

thank u.used the tips.works great.

[@ozarkwild9492]

Great tips as usual!

[@peterweinstein7829]

John, thanks for a GREAT video. I have been "reeling on slack" for years without realizing that reeling on slack causes line twist. Also, the line strength of the monofilament on my reel is probably too much for the reel and also causes line twist. THANKS AGAIN for the tips.

[@jiraiya164]

Thank you for this tip now i don’t have a issue with my reel anymore

[@lsnead72]

I have noticed that my line twists more when I've been making a number of short casts. Every so often I would have to make a real long cast and lightly pinch the line to put a little tension on it when I reel it in.

[@mattiegtv1731]

Very helpful thanks brother!!

[@Shawn_Lai]

Great video John! I think it's awesome you got some kid pictures up behind you! Says a lot about what's important to you man! Hope you and your family are doing well during all this craziness.

[@JohnCrews]

Shawn Lai 😊

[@ralphgarbiras5450]

Great tips !!

[@abusxy]

you did a wonderful job explaining line twists. I'll be giving these tips a crack the next time I'm out for a fish. I had a shit experience last night with wind knots all night. Terrible and 0 catches

[@Soupy_loopy]

I put 15 pound on. Didn't have any fun today. Thanks for the advice!

[@kent7525]

Great tips I'm a beginner surf Fisher and every time I go out I get so frustrated with line tangles this is definitely helped me out a lot I appreciate your time putting out the video. Greetings from Maryland. Chesapeake bay is awesome fishing here. Ken

[@JohnCrews]

Thanks Ken

[@jb5676]

Informative and to the point.

[@TH-bk5hj]

Thanks !! Great video

[@markblackstad8705]

The Crazy Alberto is an easy knot to tie and goes through the guides well if you don't want to try to tackle the FG knot for braid to flouro. I think it would be easier to learn to knit or crochet, LOL!

[@johnnyb1776]

Tie on a swivel and hook it to a loop of fishing line tied to... let’s say a chair back so the swivel can spin. Open the bail and start walking, not on water lol, but let more line out than you normally fish. Close the bail with rod pointing to swivel. Crank the line tight. That swivel is spinning and getting the twist out. After 30-45 seconds, start reeling with some tension pointing your rod while walking back. Done.

[@jameshenderson9228]

Great video. Ty

[@chuckkaleel9105]

Great video John!! How about a video on must have old school Baits

[@clarkriccobuono3903]

Good advice John. I wish I knew about the counterclockwise.

[@johnblanco768]

Fantastic first person to mension what is is line twist and not wind knots that the braid manufacturer are calling it!

[@Henry-xh8ec]

I usually drag my line out in the yard after I spool it up or have fished it for a while. I usually do it about three times and just about all of my line twist is gone. Then I apply the KVD line conditioner.

[@dougbas3980]

Great advise.

[@shantosani]

Thanks for the great video John, I am a beginner angler and i bought Ugly Stik GX2 Travel Spinning Combo. It says reel size: 300 and Max. weight 8Lb so did you say if i use mono-filament line its recommended to go for 8 Lb line or if i use the Braid i can use the 12 Lb line without line twist and casting issues?

[@johngenoni1927]

Great video thanks

[@retrolu1]

Thank you very much

[@HAYHAY-yl1qh]

The bird nest picture hit my funny bone for some reason.

[@tnsteele95]

Soak your new spool for about 24 hours in a bowl of water with a few drops of fabric softer before putting it on your spool. It relaxes the line and removes the twist created by the factory spool. Works great for limbering up cast nets as well

[@JohnCrews]

Nice tip! Thanks

[@PHATBASSASSASSIN]

Soak it in room temp or start out in hot ? I heard to boil it as well ?

[@barryhowell9]

Soak it in very warm water, spool it up, throw a hook on your line after putting it on your rod. Attach the hook to something sturdy or your trailer hitch, lock down your drag and let out line while being pretty tight and give it a couple pulls every 10-20ft. And then reel it up, boom you jus took out all the memory in your line, lays flat as a board

[@gleamtarrest6310]

That Is Absolute Nonsense!

[@skrimper]

Does this apply to all lines, including flourocarbon?

[@rowdybroomstick1216]

Casting out line without a lure behind the boat and take off trolling with the big motor and let out most of the line and reel back in is the most amazing trick for fixing line twist, because the water actually pulls all the line twist out and there's ample resistance on the line when reeling back in. Try it ! You won't be disappointed! I've done it with line I thought was garbage and after the respool and treatment with reel magic oil which can be used to treat the line everything was like brand new line.

[@JohnCrews]

Oh yes! That’s a great trick

[@kerryparks1979]

Tip #1 I learn something new!

[@davisracquet]

My Mitchells 308 and 408 have the small capacity spools. I like to put only about 100 feet of 4lb line on by laying line down across the lawn then cutting to that length and reeling it in. STILL (even using a barrel swivel) I occasionally get twisted. NOW, I've been told that with the 308 and 408 - there's really little anyone can do. I'd like to hear your thoughts, thanks.

[@mitchdorsey5621]

How much 15lb braid are y’all normally putting on both a 2500 and 3000 size spinning reel? When there’s only 150yd spools available at TW, that will only fill the spool a little over halfway. Any help is appreciated! Thanks in advance!

[@MyDenis0]

THANK YOU

[@II_JP_II]

I"m glad I found your channel! Great job and thanks for sharing the knowledge! Tight Lines!

[@bucknastyfishing]

I never thought about the label not being on the proper side. Good tip!

[@mikemanninen3467]

I tried the last tip u had about taking the lure off and peeling out line and reeling it back in . When I reeled it back in I had the biggest birds nest I ever had!

[@russlehman2070]

Most likely you moved the twist to the end of the line. Unless the line is fully stretched out and the end of the line free to rotate, reeling it through your fingers will untwist the line going onto your reel at the expense of putting more twist on the end of the line.

[@chrisfoley3320]

I never heard anyone mention dont reel on slack line. Great tip! I do know if you reel while the drag is slipping it will put really bad twist in your line. Thanks for this video!

[@d10dozerman2]

Yes it will

[@email16v]

This is his anecdotal perception. There is no truth to his observations.

[@russlehman2070]

I think it's something that is so automatic to people who have been fishing with spinning gear all of their lives that it never gets mentioned. The bane of any spinning reel, or spincasting reel for that matter is a loose loop on the spool. Sooner or later, that loose loop is going to allow line to unwind off the spool prematurely, and once that happens, you have a birds nest. This is true with or without line twist, but a twisted line makes it worse, because twisted line wants to twist on itself as soon as you put any slack in it. If you see a loose loop on the spool, you need to cast or otherwise get enough line out to get past the loose loop as soon as possible and make sure the line properly respools when you reel it back in.

[@russlehman2070]

@@email16v No. Pulling line off the drag, and especially reeling while the drag is spooling rotates the spool. This is a major source of line twist. His "anectdotal perception" is entirely accurate.

[@lesliemaness999]

In your opinion does the Kevin Vandam line treatment take stretch out of monofilament?

[@LCon30]

Love the vid, but the GT knot is king...not to mention it could not be any simpler to tie.

[@tbonthered1920]

Thanks

[@larryjones5295]

I walk off the distance suggested on the real after I attach it to my rod and reel walk off the distance cut the line go back to my reel hold pressure on the line. Reel it all in , never a problem with line twists.

[@Nflguy4949]

If I put 12 pound braid and use 20 feet of fluorocarbon. What pound test should the fluorocarbon be?

[@clightning9703]

thank u, very educating. I personally hate birds nest & tangles.

[@TexasPapa13]

I use 20lb Suffix 832 and 12lb flouro leader Never had an issue with twist 😜 lol.

[@TheAmericanCelt]

Bass pro sell a Remington 14:1 ratio spin reel for 70 bucks.. i absolutely love it.

[@AJTramberg]

I fished constantly with spinning tackle back in the 80s and 90s, NEVER had a birdnest. Not once, ever. I got away from fishing for many years. Last few times Ive gone out, its like the line is different...birdnest almost every time!

[@Molesy66]

Same never even heard of bird nest 😳 just brought some new rods and planing to go fishing with my son and all these videos have got me worried lol

[@matthewharris4966]

I've been fishing & lucky enough to do it on my Marine Construction Job work time for over 30 years. I only use the very best equipment ( my custom G loomis 1 piece 7' 10" rod with Shimano stella is my goto for throwing big lures at Southern Bluefin tuna & Yellowtail Kingfish here in Victoria Australia. Using 9 & 12 inch sluggos unweighted combined with a super fast retrieve gets the fish. My Problem is this style of fishing is the worst for putting Line Twist in Braid. I'll be interested to try these tips of yours and see if they work.

[@matthewharris4966]

Oh i should have mentioned my line is all Sunline or Gosen. My FG Knots and Braided Doubbles ( also known as Aussie Plait knots ) are second to none, I'm obsessive about my knots. I'll do these knots 3 or 5 times if I'm not happy with the 1st. I always put new line on under as much drag tension as possible & i wet the new spool first.

[@StandardAmericanCarnivore]

Soak your fresh spool of line in hot tap water for 15 mins. The hot water will create a new memory to your spool. End of line twist forever. The end. Tight lines!

[@lesliemaness999]

Works well especially when you spool it up as he mentioned. Cast monofilament a country mile.

[@gleamtarrest6310]

100% Absolute NONSENSE!

[@JA-gx4hb]

Helps with memory, not twist.

[@TRUTHandANSWERS]

10# braid is ok? With a smaller leader. Did I understand correctly?

[@Nflguy4949]

I heard you should wrap electrical tape around the reel before spoiling braid on it so the braid won’t slip. Is this the best way to add braid to a reel?

[@frankpugliese3380]

I'm a total fishing noob ... Tip number 1 was clutch

[@renaudtheis1197]

Awesome video John. 2 questions: do you use conditioner on braid? And shouldn't you have more pressure on the spool for braid to avoid dig in in case of a snag or larger fish? I always spool it it very tight, tight enough that I can't stick my nail through the line. What do you think ?

[@JohnCrews]

Renaud Theis Hey Renaud, I do but it’s not a huge help. On 2, pressure is needed but not too much on a spinning reel. It doesn’t get enough dig on hook set to cause too much problem.

[@renaudtheis1197]

John Crews John thanks for your answer!!

[@hunterweikle7045]

Hey quick question for you ahh what is your favorite spawning baits to throw I now that you have a spawning baits video I watched it but overall what one is your favorite one to throw? What color?

[@JohnCrews]

hunter weikle Ha! Baby D Bomb in Candy Grass if I only had one

[@hunterweikle7045]

Thanks

[@RonDevito]

I re-spooled two 6500 class spools doing the old school spool facing real method with mono - both clockwise and counter-clockwise, and it was a disaster. Spooling it like a bait caster and keeping tension seemed to work better. I have to take these 6500s and toss sinkers only to see if they twist or not, before committing to bait and hooks.

[@JohnCrews]

You got it.

[@russlehman2070]

Something that is helpful to understand is that line twist is inherent in the way a spinning reel operates. Since it works by winding the line on to the end of a spool with its axis parallel to the rod, rather than by rotating a spool with its axis perpendicular to the rod, as a bait casting reel does, if you reel untwisted line onto it, the line on the spool will have a half twist for every loop on the spool. However, when the line comes off the spool in a cast, it will again be untwisted. This would be perfect, except that most spinning reels, when you pull line off the drag, feed line by allowing the spool to rotate, with the result that the line comes off the reel still twisted. Add in lures or baits that rotate when you retrieve or troll them, the line will likely get some twist in it. Another consequence of this is that you should not machine spool line on your spinning reels. Many tackle shops will do this, with a machine that works by rotating the spool. This will result in the line on the spool having no twist, but when you cast it, it will come off twisted. If you reel untwisted line onto your reel, it will come off the reel with no twist. As long as you reel with some tension on the line, the twist in the line on the spool will not cause any problems (if you reel it loose, it will tend to form loops or kinks).

[@PaulLadendorf]

Good vid thanks. One thing you missed is not everyone uses a 2500 reel. Whats the max size line for a 1000 series?

[@davidarwood6264]

4 or 6 lb. Fluorocarbon or mono. Or 4 lb braid with fluorocarbon leader. A small barrel swivel in between braid and leader will reduce twist. It's what I trout fish with. I have zero problems.......oh yeah manually close your bail. It add twist when you don't and nobody wants to hear that CLANG. Prolongs the life of the reel also.

[@fan4life345]

Spray line conditioner on the new spool before adding the line to your spinning reel! Makes a big difference imo

[@hunterweikle7045]

Hi john it's Trevin that is a good tip!

[@JohnCrews]

hunter weikle Hi Trevin!

[@hunterweikle7045]

Hi got a quick question for you ahh for Spawning fish I now that you have a spawning baits that you like what is your favorites ya you like the destroyer what color is best?

[@jeffarcher400]

Don't confuse twist with set. Twist should come out like shown. Set can be reduced pulling line through folded piece of inner tube. Twist stored on a reel will set and be unremovable. Most set is loops from spool. Letting line out behind a moving boat and reeling back is good if you have a boat. #1 cause on big fish is reeling against a running fish. Rookie panic move. Wait... Fish stops run, lift smooth without hearing drag. Crank as you smoothly lower rod tip. Bend in rod should not change. Repeat. Use a swivel on troll or lures that twist. Nothing causes frustration like twist. I would have spare spools so hot bites you slam a fresh spool on and deal with it later. Good luck and tight lines.

[@charly3rd273]

Hi John, Tip # 3 Are you saying come off the new line spool counter clockwise and take up on the reel clockwise. I was under the idea to come off the spool in the same direction that the reel turns.

[@LightCarver]

People get confused about cw/cc because it depends which way you are looking at the reel when you decide what direction to call the spin. Also some confusion with rolls of line since line will come off in the opposite direction it turns, or would be turning if it is stationary. Easier to pay attention to the loops.

[@mikelupino5273]

John, how do you spool the line and leave an 1/8 from the top? When I spool the line it automatically goes to the top and then down..I heard leave an 1/8 or so from top. There are a bunch of videos about not spooling line all the way to the top, but none actually explain how to not let the line get to the top..every video shows cranking and spooling but how does that line stop an 1/8 from top? Ty

[@keithsr.]

Stop reeling when there's an eighth inch of the spool left.

[@ryanfaze4541]

The reason I get line twists is when the mono sits on your reel it curled to the reel and when you take it off it is twisted but if stretch it goes back to being straight

[@JohnCrews]

Ryan Faze That’s advanced tip!

[@motoman3290]

line should match reels recommendations is what your saying . If the max is 12lb line don’t put 14lb on it I would say many 2500 reels will acomidate 12lb line without line twist 😀 great video though

[@dickiehoskins9835]

Due braid to flouro leader no line twist! Best setup for any spinning combo. Waste of line when you fill up all flouro.

[@MrTECHPRO2]

Not really. Now ur buying 2 spools of line braid being more expensive so actually spending more money plus fact u gotta keep fixing the leader. I river fish snags like crazy so I lose tons line constantly so I'd be constantly tying new leaders. Using all floro or mono I use until it's to low usually get 2 seasons

[@raymondjohnson6496]

I’ve never heard any fabric softener, but I would never do that but Richard gene the fishing machine says soak it in a 5 gallon bucket of water for three or four days it will help your fishing line

[@CajunBadger]

Hey John……Too many comments to read all of them. Soooooo….I know who you are, all your accolades and your skill level….I went with your method in the video of over the top spooling with 40lb braid on big saltwater spinning gear. Less than 100 turns in I could see twist in the line forming. I watched your video several times and on the final time I noticed you said Sunline has a regiment they follow for labeling their spools. At that point I was curious as to if other companies not doing the same would that affect the direction the line should come off the spool. Maybe under rather than over???? Fast forward to me spooling per your directive and the results were mentioned above which led me to this comment. This question is directed to help everyone and is in no means a dig on your advice or criticizing your knowledge…..IF the results are the same for others as myself does that mean we should do the opposite of your recommendation? Maybe spool from the bottom rather than the top of this happens. Also I am spooling from large quantity spools. A couple thousand yards plus of line, could that make a difference? I know you’re a busy guy but an answer for all would be appreciated. Thanks for the informational videos and tight lines man.

[@yeeyee1649]

I’ve honestly never had line twist on a spinning reel I didn’t even know it was a thing until a week ago😂

[@Unspoke]

Turtleee It’s easy to do. Here try it out on your Spinning setup. Tie a 1/32 oz jighead on 20 lbs floroucarbon and then cast it on a heavy spinning rod. Cheers! You got yourself some line twist. 🥳

[@joelee240]

Just tie on a Texas rigged weightless stickbait and make a cast. Reel it back to about a foot from your rod tip. If your lure spins you have line twist.

[@raymondjohnson6496]

I do this on my catfish rod I hook it on the truck or the fence and pull the line out like 50-70 yds reel it in real tight for at least two hours before I go fishing it’s the way

[@anthonyb27]

Tip number one is not mentioned enough. I was closing the bail manually, but still getting tangles. I couldn't firgure out what I was doing wrong, thanks.

[@shawntitsworth4878]

Do you put a backer on a spinning reel before putting braid on ?

[@JohnCrews]

Shawn Titsworth Yes! Needs either electrical tape or some mono under it.

[@19ADAM80]

John Crews 👍🏼 Thanks for that, my Penn 2500 reel is missing the rubber backer.., where do you find a replacement btw. I’ve looked everywhere even on Penn’s website

[@jimmydooley2771]

What about I’ve heard you can soak the line overnight before putting it on?

[@JohnCrews]

Jimmy Dooley You can soak them after you put them on. That’s more of a deal for mono than flouro

[@joshuarobbins486]

I just put 20lb braid on my spinning reel and it got all kind of messed up, I've gotta cut it off and redo it

[@JohnCrews]

I’d put lighter braid on a spinning reel. 15 tops

[@lipsnatcher7483]

Do you still use the line conditioner on the braided line itself?

[@JohnCrews]

I do but it’s not as much help as straight flouro

[@lipsnatcher7483]

@@JohnCrews ok, I've never really used it on my braid either.....just wanted to pick your brain!!!

[@yajtramer6913]

Also don't use braid in cold weather -3c is about the coldest I use braid in. It's like a frozen shoe string

[@SpriteHide]

I spooled it with 8 LB test mono for lighter lures, gave it some practice casts and found that it did cast well kzbin.infoUgkxSlytCJqozTF7EbdP4LWP-HUXf9WRDJ0e , except that the anti-backlash setting had to be turned up almost all of the way to keep the "overcasts' ' down. I disassembled it, and found that if I potted some "shim washers" behind that anti-backlash magnet assembly, it got the magnets closer to the spool without rubbing, and I could get better control with about a 6 to 7 out out 10-Max setting. I also noticed that the handle shaft had some internal end play, maybe only 2 or 3 thousands of an inch, but it's still noticeable. If the anti-backlash and shaft tolerances were "tightened up" this would be a fantastic value. I've only used it for 4 days of fishing in a month's time, but I plan on keeping it.

[@johnmango6056]

I fish jerkbaits all the time on a spinning set up and there's really no way avoiding reeling up slack line. which is why braid to a leader is the best thing ive ever tried. outrageous amount of benefits compared to straight floro.

[@heyneedhelp8266]

I though straight fluoro is better, so braid to leader works the best for jerkbaits, crankbaits and topwaters? What pound line?

[@DAVE_WHITE]

first thing is to spool it properly line does not last long based on if you have the line in a hot car and or sunlight 3000 size spool can take 10# test

[@timhafley5177]

Line spool has different diameter than Reel Spool.use hot water just pour it on the Line Only let it take a new set on your reel.

[@jwc111684]

Braid to floro leader!

[@datruthhurts3984]

What about casting a swimbait or crank all day?in clear water?fluoro straight all day.Knotts will break and fish see braid!lol

[@yajtramer6913]

You forgot using swivels

[@bradme6579]

Spinning reels will always twist your line , braid twist but not as bad because of no memory in the braid. If you want no twist then you need a casting reel .

[@kellymoore4517]

Line twist and spinning reels go hand-n-hand, you can't have one without the other.

[@davidarwood6264]

Using a small barrel swivel from main line to leader helps and you don't have to tie that God awful knot 😅. It will reduce twist. I always put line on counter clock wise. I believe it helps. I can't remember when I've had a bird's nest. I believe the biggest thing is learning to MANUALLY CLOSE YOUR BAIL. Every time you don't it adds twist. It's not a hard thing to do once you get in the habit. It will prolong the life of your reel also. Nobody wants to hear that CLANG either. You know you're around a child or extremely new fisherman when you hear it. 😅 A trout fisherman might literally run you off. 😅

[@tomalderman7598]

I thought you were gonna say use a swivel above the bait a couple feet.

[@gleamtarrest6310]

Doesn't work!