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[@tbranscom1]

Every pour, complains about bubbles knows they should have sealed the wood. Every pour complains about the mold sticking, knows they should have used release.

[@justinanderson2958]

It looks like the resin was too cold when you mixed it. I usually warm both parts in a warm water bath to about 85F before mixing. This will get rid of the milky appearance and will result in a crystal clear epoxy pour.

[@ardenthebibliophile]

As much as I hate corporate nonsense, you should make a checklist for your river tables. Means you can have each step laid out (split slab, flatten slab, make mold, apply mold release, yadda yadda...) And you know when it's done and by whom. Less steps forgotten and you've got a paper record to file away. Your shop is big enough to need this kinda stuff!

[@LykeArgy]

100

[@lamarshealey3332]

It takes from the KZbin fun 😊

[@chadhowell1328]

At some point, processes become a necessity. He’s definitely at that point.

[@GUNSnDOZES]

They probably do that already but pretending to fumble and bumble around is better content. These guys are pros, pretty sure they have their stuff together

[@MrE_]

@@GUNSnDOZES surely

[@YoFabGuy]

For the micro-bubbles, black tail studios generally brushes on a coat of epoxy on exposed wood surface to keep it from gassing into the epoxy.

[@LykeArgy]

he said in the video he didn't seal it because of this arbitrary deadline he has to post a video on youtube lol

[@longshot726]

@@LykeArgy The algorithm deadline is no joke though. If you don't keep a consistent upload cycle, it will drop your ass.

[@hamubice1551]

Yes, commonly referred to as the seal coat which he referenced somewhere around 9:30 as he was explaining they didn't really have time to do because video scheduling & weekend. It's a table he was giving away for free, kind of understandable that he took a couple minor shortcuts for timeliness.

[@LykeArgy]

@@longshot726 forgot about the algorithm since i stopped watching MPMD lol, good point

[@jgclark45]

@@longshot726 this is the first video in three weeks

[@keithpovec6462]

It looks awesome. In my experience, when you want that level of clarity you need to go so far as to polish the resin to 3k minimum. Then wet sand and polish the finish to at least 10k grit. I know it’s a ton of work. But it is the only way I have managed to get the result I wanted.

[@travischill]

Wetsand up to 3k then machine compound and polish should be more than enough

[@anothername6861]

to get the clear resin, you need to stir it slow speed until it clear up before pour it in the project. Most manufacturers recommendation for mixing time is not enough. Polishing is just to make shiny at the surface.

[@johnmclain6535]

The table top is really nice. Love the frosted look and the geometric shaoes but i think yout best creativity was that base. Totally makes the entire table. Brava!👏👏👏

[@bazilwreckerloughead]

That thing turned out great; I love how the river, the wood sides & the base blend together.

[@JNDCreations]

Stoked to see a project video come out! How did you expect the resin to be clear though only sanding to 320? I take my resin pieces up to 8000 grit before going in with a grit paste up to 100,000 grit. Then apply finish. Think this would’ve looked incredible if you polished the resin and not the spray finish!

[@ethanlane4734]

What grit paste do you use? I've been trying to find a good one to use for polishing my projects.

[@JNDCreations]

@@ethanlane4734 I use a product called Kustom Grit. Made by Kustom Creations. It’s a 2 part system. Part 1 is rated at 50,000 grit. Part 2 at 100,000. It works well as finish in itself, or you can add to it after. Completely food safe as well. They make a range of products that are all food safe and great!

[@skylarmcmanus4347]

exactly what i was thinking, 320 is fine for wood, but for epoxy or clear coat its still considered very course

[@GareginBorboryan]

Yes and I think taht they forget to sand it in other side of the table

[@russwilliams4777]

I liked that base... black steel contrasts beautifully with the walnut inlays and open spaces 😻 From what I understand (from Rybonator's resin dice videos), to get perfect crystal-clear epoxy you'd want to degas it in a vacuum chamber, pressure cast (not sure where you'd find a dining-table-sized pressure pot!) and then wet sand to 3000+ grit using things like Zona Paper.

[@davidkleinman4920]

That is necessary for faster curing epoxy. For this type of epoxy it shouldn’t be necessary.

[@eloib]

@@davidkleinman4920 Agreed, I do not have a vaccuum chamber and I have built clear epoxy tables. I would not wet sand to 3000, but rather wet sand to 1000-1500 and polish from there

[@davidwilliams-qu7cm]

Not that you'll see but other makers put a tiny amount of blue pigment in to the resin which for some reason makes it super clear and stops it yellowing over time.

[@broproful]

I never knew that about the blue resin

[@broproful]

Blue pigment/correction

[@vincedibona4687]

Makes sense, as glass has just a tinge of blue to it.

[@joecushing2656]

Table came out super cool. Something with that much work I think definitely would have been fine in a multi video series, that way you maintain the weekly schedule but aren’t as rushed. I know everyone appreciates a full build in one video though too, just a thought. Thanks boys

[@bigdawg8088]

I love your work and imagination. But I especially love your humor and attitude. You are one of my favorite woodworkers

[@TotalBoat]

Love the design and build- after overcoming the obstacles, it turned out pretty rad! 😎😎

[@Rikkruz]

this video had me checking my screen for dust just to make sure it didn't come out on the table. Nice build!

[@jbmenace214]

I love the way this turned out. Great design.

[@lucasfrancamarchezam5439]

Totally awesome, John!!!

[@LeeroyEJenkins]

Cool looking table, and yes, mistakes always come when you rush it. But it still came out great! A future project I'd like to see from you guys is a Bourbon Barrel cabinet.

[@jamingaming9251]

I reckon they glued the slabs to a sacrificial board then routed the shapes. After filling with resin they planed or routed off the sacrificial board.

[@xpeterx]

i just started the video, and my initial thought is either that, or they poured a first layer or resin, put the slabs in, let it cure, routed the shapes and then poured the rest.

[@johnnyb95678]

Turned out great! In spite of the issues along the way. It looks Awesome!

[@EndureTyrant]

Havent watched the video yet, but an easy way to set the pieces with negative space would be to do it without completely cutting through the wood, to cut in the design, but not completely cut through the wood, leaving a wood base at the bottom. Then, after the epoxy cures, lap the top to level it, flip it over and lap to remove the wood until the negative space is revealed. Edit: I literally described exactly what they did, haha.

[@jasonlewis3620]

Final product is sharp! I agree with you that the hazy look of the epoxy looks better than the clear. If I was closer Ild try buying the scrapped base from you cause I got a slab that would make a nice desk with that base!

[@86holt]

One of my favorite channels. Always entertaining. Not just the same stuff over.and over again.

[@kimpayton5633]

I love the shape of the tables and the hexagon This looks great. It doesn't matter what you do you always mess up every single time. Be proud of your projects no matter how they turn out cuz I always turn out great 👍

[@kacperbobrowski7444]

Next time u do clear resin wet the floor everywhere around the project as it stops the dust from flying around

[@yh9917]

@John, is it possible to run the rail between the legs length-wise under the table instead of across it? That way none of the leg frame would be seen through the resin. Is the risk of cupping only along the width of a slab and not the length?

[@flatlander523]

I like this one better than most the rest. If your having trouble getting scratches out, look to the General Aviation industry. A lot of our windshields are plexiglass that require bbuffing to a clear finish, NO scratches. The guys that do that are artists.

[@ctfddftba]

I think that this idea/concept is really cool, would love to see it in different styles. Like makings clan shell pattern using a base wood for a bunch of it and using a bunch of different types of wood to make individual shells. When CNCing you can remove the piece area while keeping the gap for placement. Idk, does that make sense?

[@stevenfleming1724]

I like that you always give credit to the person you get your ideas from. And I agree, it looks extremely difficult! Great work though, I love your videos

[@TimberWood.Customs]

Absolutely beautiful! Looks bad ass. Great job guys!

[@vinity5202]

13:05 I like the implication of a larger shop just giving you more room to mess everything up, but now in different rooms... at least when you storm out of one problem, you have another waiting for you!

[@GoblinGhouls]

I've seen a similar technique used to create a wood and resin table with sensors on the back of each geometric shape that turn on LEDs when something is on top of that shape. It looks pretty amazing. I like the idea of using LEDs under resin tables in general

[@PipeDreamerJacques]

It looks very slick even with the cloudy resin. Arguably cooler. I love It.

[@jaredvandyke]

So awesome to see a brand new video! I just found you a couple of days ago and have been watching/listening to hours of videos! Just amazing. Thank you. (This is from someone that lives in a suburb of Cleveland 😅)

[@veldahere]

Everything I've seen you do has turned out beautiful 😍

[@Kathy11271957]

Its beautiful and would look perfect in my dining area once my house is done being rebuilt. Fire totaled my home back in Feb, we lost everything. The upside is that the residence is allowing me to do an upgrade Mid-century feel.

[@TDuySculptures]

Beautiful desk! I love the pattern 👍

[@ganeshtn2098]

You got a extraordinary result for the effort ❤😂😂😂😂

[@MCsCreations]

Amazing work, John! It looks much better this way! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@josephclancy3528]

I have seen tables like this warp before; I put it down to more epoxy being on top than on the bottom causing the timber to warp as the epoxy cures and contracts ! I also found if you place the warped table outside in direct sunlight (heat) and monitor is closely; the epoxy softens and the warp is removed ! I am sure you can work out how I know this lol ?

[@vascorfael7223]

Blacktail studio.

[@russwilliams4777]

Yeah, Cam from Blacktail Studio did a video on sun-softening to bend an epoxy slab for a side table. Worth a try if things go a little squacky!

[@NGMonocrom]

We like New Sam.... He's a Romantic. 💕

[@remidragon4467]

Maybe you could have used the CNC to make the shapes but leave a thin layer of wood that you could work down after your pour

[@vincedibona4687]

That’s exactly what they did. “Tell you didn’t watch the video without _saying_ you didn’t watch the video.”

[@randoman81]

I love watching you punish yourself with epoxy. You're like a Leafs fan.

[@ScottStephenSmith]

I'm in the venn diagram that likes this comment.

[@enduro-parts-aus]

Looks sweet i prefer the frosted resin look of yours over the clear

[@broproful]

Fantastic product John. Could you explain to me what you were spraying that you called the Sweet elixir of the gods? And did you buff all the way to the end or sand beyond 500 grit? That was hard work. I’m very impressed

[@jimmckay2337]

I love the fact that you take on difficult challenges. Things may get squirrelly, but your team stays focused.

[@petervalcanas4219]

I think it looks great John. Nice job!

[@michaelwalters7419]

Beautiful table, amazing work like always …. Onto the next project

[@brianwaldron1723]

Such an awesome table. I think it is better to be different than the one you were modeling it after. Gives it your character.

[@elementalist1984]

Imagine what the next one will look like, especially if he is able to take more time. I'm sure this one has taught him a lot

[@ChetKloss]

It's really nice when a KZbinr is willing to show their fails and not just their successes. Good on ya.

[@beanieweenie9543]

Mistakes are a major part of his channel. His content would be boring without them.

[@normancurd8719]

Love your work and the content! Great personality to watch

[@brendatillich20]

I love your videos!!! they are very informative both on what to do and not to do 😂 ive watched about all of your videos. Beautiful table who ever wins it will be a happy person 😎

[@SchysCraftCo.]

Awesome. Can't wait to see more updates an projects and many more videos soon my friend. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Fab On. Weld On. Stay squirrely. Keep making. God bless.

[@MichaelViewing]

Quick question for ya John. How flat is "flat" for a wooden table. I used a router sled and somehow ended up with a .65mm cup on a cookie, I'll take more passes later but it got me thinking about flatness. Would appreciate your thoughts. Love the vids!

[@stressmasterbk4294]

if you want that clarity you need to vacum chamber the resin before you pour. makes a HUGE difference on bubbles

[@TheBigt202]

If your worried about it bieng too thin, and you want it to be thicker, you could pour a second coat of countertop epoxy, it will add thickness and no need to sand and polish.

[@funo6581]

The table is beautiful. I actually like the hazy epoxy. I enjoy working with epoxy as a hobbyist and have had micro-bubbles ruin entire projects so, I’m usually not fond of them :) Black Forest Wood Co. has air conditioning units under their pouring tables. For future builds it might be worth checking into. Heavy D Sparks is auctioning off some industrial air conditioning units, he may have a good deal on something that would work for you.

[@Brum711]

Tried to enter into the comp for the table, And no option to ship to Australia!! That makes me really sad. But I love what you do John, keep it up!

[@michaelwillson6847]

Dammit John again a can't win this!! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 You need another shirt run for dammit Chris this time! New Sam seems be killing it although we both no Jordan wouldn't of made those mistakes!😅 Love the build turned out awesome! Think we need see some milling again saw logs smoke hog's oh and shop chef!! Or 1 slab challenge what and how many things can u make from 1 5ft section of a slab! 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🤔

[@keithpovec6462]

Also, I have learned quite a bit from your videos. Not only how to, but what not to do lol😂! Love the content!

[@CardsbyMaaike]

I think you did well, trying things from other makers doesn't mean they should be a carbon copy. I like the milky middle, I think it turned out awesome

[@daveyio87]

I wonder if using a stainless steel table or a mechanics metal work bench would help you disapate heat on the bottom of your pour. could even mount a fan to blow up at the table so any cold air from the air con will be forced back up.

[@customledandfiberopticsinc2756]

Very cool table but that old Rockwell Delta drill press, that is really cool. great find!

[@rosalindbradshaw4622]

To be honest I love to see wood in its natural form, and even the first geometric cut that you said cut uneven, if I were a client, I would have loved that spoil. It would be mine, unique.

[@terrymorton9941]

Omg, what a fantastic table, congrats mate.

[@mathewdoe1577]

I literally just Searched for your last upload, and now you upload....sweeet

[@davidfitwe]

cooling table, cooling table, cooling table!!!!

[@Radiowarsaw]

Love watching these vids table came out looking really cool

[@JerrickManswell]

“Hours of polishing our head. I’m really looking forward to it” haha😂

[@gregdietz3590]

Happy accidents make for more entertaining videos...how you overcome those mistakes is the best part!

[@christopher5855]

I like the cloudiness though I'd prefer a galaxyesk swirl on the underside with some magenta purple and gold highlights on a black base. In all honesty I do not like the clear see through resin in tables. The last thing I want to see at the dinner table Is someone's feet.... or worse.

[@shayhildebrand337]

What is the "sweet elixir of the gods" finish he puts on top? I also can never seem to buff epoxy to anything that resembles good, no matter how many different sandpaper grits I go through. Some sort of clear coat...but what is it?!

[@carlll6101]

I like that your content is not your day to day job but something you challenge yourself with.

[@leongorani5121]

love it 😍 I would of trimmed a few inches off on the end of the table at 20:00 so you don't see that corner of the wood pieces, but love the rest of it

[@wolfpreist]

Assuming i had all the tools you do, I'd flatten the top, then CNC the shapes in almost all the way through, leaving them connected on what will be the bottom, then when you put it in the mold, you can pour, then once its dry, you can plane down the bottom below were the tabs hold the shapes.

[@randyfulford3398]

I know you are pros but mistakes happen and it warms my heart to know that you can make them as well. If I haven't made a mistake by the end of the day it's because I was not in the shop all day. Strong work.

[@reecy9607]

I just build things with Lasers.... Watching these guys is amazing! I wish I could visit them and see this mad science lab of theirs.

[@PkwyDrive13]

Always enjoy his positive attitude before the project and saying he's going too do everything to make it awesome and halfway through he forgets everything and just says fk it every time 😂

[@jackbuchanan670]

I do this kind of table for a living and there was two big issues here. Granted clear epoxy is hard work, but it was just a non starter when you didn't seal the edges before the pour, the wood will release a load of bubbles into the epoxy, on top of that the epoxy was slightly crystalized, that's why it looked milky when you poured. It happens when it gets cold, perhaps in transit. To get it back to normal you can't just warm it, it actually has to get pretty hot, you will need a close to boiling water bath. If it's anything but crystal clear when you mix it's going to be cloudy and might not cure properly.

[@joshuaraysor5209]

@blacktailstudio what causes the warping when they poured the epoxy?

[@highfieldworldbooks3094]

can i get the details on the CNC machine you're using? make/model? thanks

[@coolabahwoodworking]

Looking great. I love these!

[@professornicbag765]

Need a LARGE sign that says 'Did you spray mold release?!?!'

[@AarChv]

at 2 minutes in the video... i'm hoping to see cnc used to cut MOST of the way through the slabs for the design but not entirely, then epoxy poured in. After the epoxy sets plane down the whole length to cut through the remainder, and BOOM, you can see through each gap without worrying about how to get the gaps perfectly spaced.

[@vincedibona4687]

You really should just watch the whole video first. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@AarChv]

@@vincedibona4687 damn you're SO right! No one comments BEFORE they watch through!

[@techexamined]

I think it turned out pretty damn epic!!! I think you should do an “In John We Trust” with an outline of the beard.. lol… I would 💯 buy.

[@markjohnson9181]

use to make oil rig fire systems and the best thing for the miccro bubbles is to run your epoxy in a vaccum system as we use to cover data boards and you still had to be able to read them

[@hcamardelle]

Anyone know what he was spraying onto the table for a finish? It turned out amazing.

[@user-vn6hi2bi3g]

I think you got it right when you said and I paraphrase "I rushed to get a video ready" problems were sure to follow. Once design was set a combination of changing spindle speed tool size rate of feed and cut depth per pass would have eliminated the tear out issue and undoubtably increased cnc router time substantially. Of course after the fact cnc could have drilled two holes in mold bottom where each seperate piece was located thereby allowing you to screw into slabs from the bottom securing each seperate piece of the project before cnc cutting and as added benifit hold wood pieces down and in place during casting. Without pouring in layers if your casting table is not cooled invites a loss of epoxy clarity. I still like the finished table especially the care you took with the base and will enter contest. Great project. Ray Stormont

[@FatCamp2010]

That epoxy is shrinking as it cures, especially with a pour that size. You could have sealed with a spray poly to eliminate bubbles in the top. Seal coating the back side with epoxy before putting in the mold could have also prevented cupping.

[@DJMILKY1974]

John i absolutely luv that table, prefer the creamy effect. Just curious, could you use wd40 as a mold release. Not sure if it will react to yhe resin but its a damm sight cheaper than the tape!

[@P4NC4KEZ]

I think it came out great. That was a hell of a table to try and recreate. I actually like how yours came out better. Both are beautiful in their own ways but i think yours is more practical as a dining table. Here's to hoping i win the giveaway!

[@BespokeCarpentry]

My god... that wood was gorgeous after you did the initial plane. But great table also. But the naked wood is just absolutely gorgeous chocolaty purple color

[@fancyhoundwoodworks9739]

Shirt purchased. My Malecki shirt collection is up to 3 now.

[@user-fv4di6mw5l]

It's really cloudy!!

[@jamesm7721]

What was the spray you used after sanding?

[@FordEra]

Dude, this rocked!

[@nothingtoseaheardammit]

Would have been awesome to lay LED strips along the inside edge of the base frame. Light it up from underneath. To get bubble-free epoxy, you need a degassing vessel. Uses pressure (or rather, lack thereof) to get all of the air out of your resin...

[@kennethbezanson4266]

"Tell you all the waya you can get entered" 😆

[@stallord8]

Putting down a tarp or towel and spraying it by hand so it damp but not soaking/slippery will stop you from kicking up dust with your steps. Building a sorta cover rig that you can throw a clean tarp over to stop stuff from free drifting into it? Also part of me would say if you could induce positive pressure in the room (aka more air being pumped in than out) so whenever you open the door the air rush out of the room and will blow out any dust that tries to enter along with you. Potential hair/beard nets/covers if you are worried hairs will ruin clear stuff. Ik my ideas arent quick and easy but hope they give you some better ideas.

[@user-xb6ih2cb6l]

He who is fixed to a star does not change his mind.

[@missingmymarbles]

They mill the channels MOST of the way through the slab, so they are still connected and positioned, then do the epoxy pour into the channels, the negative space, and then remove the slab part that was holding the bits together.

[@vincedibona4687]

Which is exactly what he does here. 🤷🏻‍♂️