How to Make those Cool 3D Vintage Topo Maps: pt3

[@MLKYWY503]

John, hope you're well. I couldn't sleep and just watched this short series. Now I get to dream of hillshades and show off some new skills. Thanks again!

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

probably the coolest comment i've ever gotten.

[@pequeke]

This dude is the best. The patiance, humility, the emphasis put on having fun while at it, and the way to make it seem so approachable that makes you want to try it. Thanks for doing these.

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

Thank you much, Michel!

[@sshrug]

I love that someone is finally posting friendly how-to ArcPro videos. The first two episodes of this series were paced so well! This one kind of hit me like a truck though haha. This was my first time seeing all the use of effects and coloring and shading and I couldn't quite follow it at your pace. (It's second nature to you!) Maybe just slow it down a little? I love your content though, keep it up! :)

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

hey thanks! yes, I take your point. I do fly through the blending a bit, which is the most fun part. in general, I just hope you try out blend modes with hillshade layers and go with what looks best to you.

[@Paglietta]

you are great! I started today the MOOC about cartography and I cannot wait to see all of the lessons.. thanks for your beautiful work!

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

oh, fun! that's a wonderful course I'm happy you signed up. see you there!

[@4eyedSenpai]

Just got into the GIS world and I am so glad I found this! Thank you for your wisdom, Mr. John!

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

@@4eyedSenpai welcome! Mapping is so fun, I’m happy you are here

[@fuadalkhuthaymi5421]

I love your tutorials , your art in making maps , I keep learning from you all the time , big fan from Saudi Arabia ^ - ^

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

wow, thanks Fuad!

[@HoH]

Very cool to see how you did this.

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

Thanks!

[@PauloHenrique-uc2dp]

Amazing tutorial. Having fun watching your videos.

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

Thanks!

[@JV-gi1hs]

You're the reason why I'm migrating to ArcGIS Pro from Arcmap. Please make some more of these awesome vids!.

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

Wow! Thanks for telling me that. That’s encouraging.

[@EstherMandeno]

Thank you! I plan to use this on a huge 100" x 100" wall map. Wish me luck!

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

fun, good luck! i'd love to see a picture when you're done.

[@vitoriaserra2263]

OMG JOHN, THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! VERY HELPFUL AND I'M VERY HAPPY LEARNING THIS

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

hey you bet, glad you found it helpful! i hope you have a lot of fun with it.

[@Fearsomemonk404]

Thanks for the tutorial, had fun learning all these tricks and tips..👌🏾👌🏾

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

Great, thanks Ian!

[@skywalker271]

This is great to see how you perform this in ArcGIS. I have been using a combination of your previous Hillshade ambient occlusion map hacks, and then DEM with Blender to get a realistic rendering of DEMs to look 3D. And it's always good to combine disciplines, but this makes for a new way of data visualization, thanks!

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

thanks! blend modes pushed me over the edge to give it a try. it's fun.

[@edressin]

Great video John! Where can I find a copy of the screen capture video that is not so darn sped up?

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

ah, sorry! maybe you can play it at 0.5x speed here in KZbin?

[@DustInTheAir]

Thanks for sharing this awesome video! This makes me remember SimCity 4, when you are creating custom terrain in God Mod

[@maxitenerife]

You did it! A good alternative without the need of using additional software. Only Arcgis Pro. 💪

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

thanks! i don't mind additional software, whatever works. but if someone is comfortable making hillshade in Pro, then this saves a lot of time. :)

[@whitechou6501]

very cool! I tried to do it with Pro only before, but need to admit that the additional software provides better shadow rendering. After all, the additional software specializes in rendering 3D object.

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

@@whitechou6501 yes, the ability to model shadows is a really big part of the effect.

[@sebastianjuara]

your work is superb thank you so much for sharing this

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

My pleasure, Sebastian!

[@andreasbambangwicaksono8987]

great video! can you explain step by step how create DEMMap 0:44 ? thankyou for your answer :)

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

thanks! you can find that step detailed in part 2 of this series: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIWml3yMfsSWY68

[@andreasbambangwicaksono8987]

@@JohnNelsonMaps thankyou :)

[@Kids_world-j2z]

Hello John, thank you for this piece of art. Please, I can't find the option 'Model Shadows' in my ArcGIS Pro 3.0.0.

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

it's an option in the hillshade tool of spatial analyst or 3d analyst. it's not completely necessary though. you can get away without it. if you don't have those extensions, use the "raster function" version of hillshade.

[@Kids_world-j2z]

@@JohnNelsonMaps Thank you very much, John.

[@krich404]

Thanks. I do wish your ribbon menu was not on auto hide. It made it difficult to tell which blend modes you used and how you set them up. This is my first atempt at blend modes and there was a lot to follow. I am excited to see what I come up with.

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

ah, thanks for the feedback! that's a good point. also the fact that i was time-lapse recording probably didn't make it easy to follow at that level of specificity either. in general, i mostly used the "soft light" blend mode for shadows unless something else looked better.

[@bagaskaraga2249]

Thank you so much. This tutorial is helpful.

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

great, thanks! have fun!

[@olamiposicalebfagunloye594]

This is great. Can I download the output as a single Raster layer (TiFF) after the trick?

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

Yes

[@olamiposicalebfagunloye594]

@@JohnNelsonMaps Please how can I export it with all the details over together as one TIFF

[@psychodelian]

What do i need to do to get a step by step written direction for this technique? THe video seemed super fast while you narrated over what you did. I'll learn a lot by trying it out but i think there's a lot of stuff glossed over. Great job though. This type of thing is what makes ArcGIS so exciting.

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

sorry for zooming through that portion. here's a list of the steps that might be a helpful resource: www.esri.com/arcgis-blog/products/arcgis-pro/mapping/how-to-make-those-cool-3d-vintage-topo-maps-in-arcgis-pro/ also, Kenneth Wong did a similar write-up that might be helpful: urbandatapalette.com/post/2021-06-3d-topo-map-notes/

[@psychodelian]

Thanks John! This is a really artistic treatment...am I safe in thinking that it takes a lot of tinkering to get it right?

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

for sure, and it's all based on your opinion as you go.

[@GurnamParsad]

Thank you so much, sir.

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

you are welcome! :)

[@GurnamParsad]

@@JohnNelsonMaps I have requested everyone who knows this to teach me. But only you come for my redemption. Thank you so much. A lot of respect for you.

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

@@GurnamParsad wow, thanks! yeah, have fun!

[@Jason-fp7vi]

Incredible stuff. How do you determine when "good is good enough"? Like you said in this video, someone could spend an entire day stacking up hills hades and adjusting blend modes and applying blurs with focal statistics... So how do you determine when it's time to be happy with the result and just export it?

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

i don't know, I suppose when i run out of things that make it look better i just move on.

[@alfonsocabahugjr.3144]

WOW! :) SuperMap ...

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

thanks Alfonso!

[@EdwinOquendo-s1d]

Hey john I'm having trouble with the raster calculator ruction i think esri changed this can you do an update video?

[@joeyrs90]

Very cool John, Thank you for this video. Do you have idea's to make maps of area's which have a lot less of difference in elevation (like the Netherlands) interesting as well?

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

I need to try that out but certainly make your hillshade angle low and dramatically increase your vertical exaggeration settings in the hillshade dialog.

[@Aszod96]

This is amazing thank you!

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

You're so welcome!

[@sshrug]

I don't have all of the options that you had in your effects pane. In specific, I didn't have layer blend. How do I fix that?

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

Hi Chip. Blend modes are available in version 2.7. Check to see if you are running that version. If not, it's easy to update. You are going to love blend modes.

[@kristerkowalski5125]

Where have you been one month ago? That tutorial would have saved me so much work... But jokes aside. Great Tutorial John, I will definitly use this in the future.

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

Hah! Thanks. I’m usually pretty late.

[@MapMakinMeyers]

How do I add the Layer Blend drop down in the Effects section of the Appearance tab!? Thanks!

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

this feature was introduced in version 2.7. if you aren't seeing it, maybe you are working with an older version? a subscription to Pro includes upgrades at any time so you should be good to go if it's an older version.

[@FlorinS2011]

Thank you for this tutorial, it's great. Any way to make this as vectors format?

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

hmmmm vectors? why?

[@FlorinS2011]

@@JohnNelsonMaps Hi John. Because I am a maps and artistic cartography designer and 100% of my required projects are done with vectors. Illustrator vectors. Is what my clients are asking. Thank you for answering.

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

@@FlorinS2011 ah, I see. well you can try to convert all the hillshades to vectors? but the vintage topo map itself is going to be raster, so there's no way around having pixels.

[@FlorinS2011]

@@JohnNelsonMaps Yes, this is the point. Many thanks John.

[@rifqirahman321]

Hello I'm from Indonesia, I am a geography student who likes to make maps, this is a very cool tutorial

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

Thanks!

[@justing.8144]

Hi John, I have a question. Would I be able to make this kind of 3D Vintage Topo Map in the ArcGIS for Personal Use version?

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

Everything except the part where I use spatial analyst. Instead of that just use raster functions’s hillshade

[@ricardojaviergarnicapena6749]

Amazing tutorial, congratulations. Is there a change to export that result as 3d model or object (OBJ-FBX-GLTF) to use in Blender or Unity? Thanks. Again, this tutorial was AMAZING!!!.

[@ricardojaviergarnicapena6749]

Sorry, is chance not change

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

thanks Ricardo! I'm not very familiar with 3D formats unfortunately.

[@ricardojaviergarnicapena6749]

@@JohnNelsonMaps thank you

[@Ahmedali_-qd9eg]

Cool

[@bertkraan2817]

I would propose John Nelson to be named the Bob Ross of GIS.

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

ha! that's high praise, Bert! Bob Ross taught me a lot of what i know about mapping.

[@mappiness381]

amazing !!

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

thanks! I hope you try it out.

[@mappiness381]

@@JohnNelsonMaps will do, for sure :)

[@geo_riahiidriss]

Great work. It's possible to make a similar model using Arcgis desktop?

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

I don’t know. But if you have a license to desktop that includes Pro, so maybe this is a fun excuse to try it out?

[@jasonwright1676]

The first two episodes where wonderful, easy enough to follow. This one is spectacular with the effects and making the map pop out. However, everything moves so freaking quickly it is nearly impossible to follow with the tutorial. I have spent four hours trying to follow what should be a 17 minute tutorial. I understand that a lot of what is being done is up to the user, but it sure would be nice to know what steps are being followed in order to produce those effects.

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

I hear and I’m sorry Jason. I definitely will be more clear in future videos.

[@cencalgis7043]

My spill shadows do not show up when blurred shades are turned on (focal statistics hillshades). Only with original sharp hillshades turned on...I've applied the stretch symbiology to the blurred shades as well. Am I missing something? Thanks!

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

Hmmmm that's odd! Hard to know what's going on without taking a look.

[@kanjmadi]

hello Jhon, can i do this map style without having a vintage topo map ?

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

@@kanjmadi the vintage topo is a large component of this technique. But of course you can make maps however you like and they will probably be wonderful

[@kanjmadi]

@@JohnNelsonMaps many thanks

[@ARGSem2]

Great tutorial series! I was able to follow along on with trial of pro until it came to exporting the layout. My vintage map layer does not show up in the exported image, just the hillshade layer. Any ideas why?

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

oh, that is bizarre! it shouldn't do that! hmm, i've not run into that before. have you tried different formats?

[@geo_riahiidriss]

Whay I can't display shadow Using Arcgis desktop?

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

I'm not sure of what ArcGIS Desktop supports. But the good news is that license includes access to ArcGIS Pro, if you wanted to try it out.

[@fabio-luiz]

OMG!

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

it's a lot of fun!

[@mackinaw5577]

Hey uncle john

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

Hey! Which minion is this??

[@mackinaw5577]

@@JohnNelsonMaps charlie

[@JohnNelsonMaps]

@@mackinaw5577 Hi Charlie!! I expect only the highest quality maps from you from now on.

[@hugorivera5405]

what!