Johnny Gill: New Edition Didn't Like Our Album with Puffy, We Argued with Him a Lot (Part 15)

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Johnny Gill spoke about his journey in the music industry, from launching a solo career to joining established groups and experiencing the nuances of the industry. His second album reached number six on the Billboard charts, going double platinum. Gill also discussed his time with the band New Edition, including their seventh album being created under Puffy's direction at Bad Boy Records. He revealed that the album-making process was not smooth, as disagreements ensued over respect and treatment. Despite the internal turmoil, Gill acknowledged the value of Puffy providing an opportunity for New Edition when they were in a difficult situation with their previous label, MCA. Although the collaboration proved challenging, Gill expressed gratitude for the platform and experience.

[@AndthefuturelookedBlack-hq7hy]

Johnny Gill is, HANDS DOWN, one of the TOP GREAT VOCALISTS in the history of R&B. 💯% RESPECT & SALUTE to Johnny Gill.💐💐💐

[@tpitts9587]

Johnny deserves his FLOWERS AND RESPECT!

[@digitallhm8160]

He's a multiplatinum artist in a multiplatinum group. He's been given his flowers and respect a long time ago

[@MrSuSp7]

Why do Y'all keep saying "Flowers" like flowers don't die, yall say the dumbest shit nowadays

[@ikellycavalli]

Legend

[@pensiveczar2239]

@@MrSuSp7 Seriously. That "flowers" shit that gets thrown around now is corny. Just say that he deserves his credit.

[@gdc6153]

Let's face it. He kinda saved New Edition after Bobby was gone.

[@jaybritt6275]

JOHNNY GILL , JR. YOU ARE A " GIANT " ON BEHALF OF YOUR FANS IN WASHINGTON , D . C . YOU ARE ONE OF A LIFETIME TALENT . THANK YOU , JOHNNY GILL ,JR .

[@dwayne3496]

Salute to Johnny Gill, one of the best in R&B History⭐️💫

[@chazztastic]

I still bump Re-Write the Memories from the One Love album. Such a good song.

[@ubanwogu1185]

Yep, and that’s because it was hooked up by Jam & Lewis. When you have established artists like that, it makes sense to trust them enough to give them creative freedom. Imagine if they simply had Jam & Lewis just oversee the music on that album…

[@rondas7772]

Yep I still like that song

[@birdbz]

sure is

[@mrsain19]

was supposed to be an official single. NE pushed for it. Puff nixxed it, like a fool.

[@johnm8744]

The way he laughed when Vlad said “Which Puffy had his hands all over” 🤣🤣🤣

[@mrsain19]

LOVED that Vlad did that and said that, because it was true. he refused to actually let NE just be NE.

[@brandonanderson2790]

Johnny is right … he is a legend and a beast and deserves the awards

[@leihough2913]

I remember seeing Mr. Gill on the life & timez of Eazy-E dvd... he was one of the few celebrities that went 2 Eazy-E's funeral

[@72Dexter72Manley72]

Johnnys vocal runs are unmatched. 🎵🎼🎶🔊

[@larrycurrycarpediem]

I concur whole-heartedly!!!! Bruh' can out sing a lot of singers then and now.

[@ricoalvarez8323]

The Johnny Gill solo track, "Come Home With Me" was an underrated monster slow jam. Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis did their thing, with that Johnny lead New Edition slow jam.

[@djdoncruse1952]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@dimplesd9891]

I remember that song

[@bryantwilliams647]

💯🔥🔥🔥

[@demoss75]

Giving my all to you is my favorite

[@Dablkwid0w2008]

There You Go is my jam

[@williamowens2674]

100% RIGHT! Johnny never got or gets the just due or respect he earned and deserves as one of the greatest R&B vocalists of all time! Flowers Brother!

[@CesarChavez-bn6iv]

Big MF’n Facts 💯🎯

[@loudiamonds6587]

Wack songs and albums don't help tho

[@grovedwayne390]

Lady Dejour and There you go. 🔥 🔥 Classics

[@nitoduzit]

Right. He brought genuine singing artistry to New Edition. Just to name one of many power points.

[@4Bang9Gang]

How not when those of us that know he is an amazing vocalist give him his flowers. Those of us who know his addition to NE turned the group into grown men. So how doesn’t he get his just due? Who’s validation will solidify JG’s greatness?

[@nakitapalmer656]

Now HOT TONIGHT was my JAM!!! They showed off on that track!!!😍😍😍😍😍😍

[@MySuperman78]

Facts!!!!

[@BeyBrightOfficial]

I love that track and they do themselves a disservice by not performing it because that’s one of their best songs in my opinion! It would be great in concert with their stage presence!

[@michaeljackson8182]

Home Tonight was the jam

[@nakitapalmer656]

@@BeyBrightOfficial You know what....I never noticed that they dont perform that song until you stated it!!😲

[@lornawest47]

I love that song and the video

[@ericrowland3246]

I’m a music head and I remember 2004. I graduated high school that year AND Puffy was on fire cause he brought back New Edition, Mase and he signed 8 Ball and MJG.

[@tinastreet4428]

I remember seeing that hot2nite come out on BET and had no clue who New Edition was 😂😂😂

[@dsg3053]

Puffy wasn't on fire in 2004

[@cchisolm92cc]

​@@dsg3053😂 I was like puff was going down around 04'. He was signing a lot of older acts in order to gain one hit with their name to write off on his taxes.

[@CelinaWilson-mx9os]

Johnny thats ARTistry, multi talents....not just one talent love., keep it going...😊❤ BLACK DIAMOND 💎

[@zeplinali189]

To be honest that One love album, was one of there best CD. Puffy definitely updated there sound and gave it swagg for that time. The recording process was probably difficult but the results were great

[@RickBizzy]

I love the One Love CD also & was disappointed they didn't perform any of the songs when I seen them perform right after the time that CD dropped

[@talmadgemillerjr6430]

Absolutely agree. It had straight back to back hits all the way across the board. That album was fiya

[@PamelaBellOfficial]

I loved that album. You're right he did update their sound, made it current and hot.

[@efree345]

True 👍🏿

[@IENetworkTV]

lmao exactly it was better than ne heartbreak to me but that's just me lol

[@chrisa4695]

Believe it Johnny, you are much respected. Everyone I talk to about music consistently rates you one of the best male vocalists of all time. You are top 5 in my book. Heads of State was underrated. I was hoping for an album.

[@luvte1]

Johnny was wonderful in this interview and I am looking forward to hearing more from him. Johnny was very insightful and honest.

[@derryconley2540]

I love JG . He will always be one of my favorite singers.

[@glennusher4160]

Such a Loyal and Talented Person.

[@canicole20]

Who remembers that episode of Family Matters when Steve hired Johnny Gill to sing to Laura and Laura was freaking out and falling all over herself? 😂

[@bettywilliams9633]

I I'll always remember that episode

[@sihlencube6601]

SHe completely forgot abt Steve he had to chase Jonny away seeing him as threat😂🤣🤣

[@mrsain19]

i wonder if JG really was/is a vintage sports card chaser in real life? he made a VERY good deal with Urkel for the cards he got.

[@littlecubana2800]

My grandpa used to manage him he deserves sooo much more, my fav ❤❤😍❤️❤️🙌🏽

[@BeyondVertical101]

Johnny Gill New Edition song Boys To Men is unmatched Johnny was one one and gave us a banger

[@djsoulchild]

The best tracks from the "One Love" recording sessions didn't even make the final cut of the album. "K.I.T. ( Keep In Touch)" and "About Love" produced by Jam & Lewis, "Got It Like That" produced by Ryan Leslie...real heads know!!! Y'all go and search those tracks on here. It's damn near a criminal offense that Puffy didn't add them to the tracklist!!!! They would've made the album so much better! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Knyte77]

Especially K.I.T. That would have been a hit and should have been the first or second single after "Hot 2 Nite."

[@djsoulchild]

@@Knyte77 Indeed, bro! "K.I.T." would've been the perfect intro track on the album too! 🔥🔥🔥

[@christines1821]

Omg I was looking for this comment I agree with all you’ve said

[@rashawnda-professor2999]

Good Morning. Thanks for sharing this information. N.E. revealed that they wanted more tracks by Jam and Lewis but Puffy refused claming that there wasn't enough money in the budget. Jam and Lewis even offered to give them the tracks free of charge but Puffy refused. I feel that after Hot 2 Nite the label could have released other songs including All On You, Start Turnin Me On and Come Home With Me as follow ups

[@mrsain19]

@@rashawnda-professor2999 because Puff knew if NE (on Bad Boy) blew again, and due to the tracks from Jam/Lewis and not those from Ryan Leslie, Stevie J, D-Dot, etc.......than that would sort of be a slap in the face to the in house Bad Boy production team (in Puff's head) and thus making them look worthless. Then other acts would want the same type of deal, earned or not. Because then the recipe would be set. I get it. but at the same time.......Puff was foolish here. Thats NE. you gotta let NE.......BE NE. and there was plenty of room for all of the tracks. This is why Bad Boy is bad boy.......and why labels like Interscope.......Republic.........Empire.........The Orchard............are the way they are. They allow their artists to be themselves. That album had a good 4-5 singles on it, if done right and in the proper order. Imagine if that same album, unreleased tracks and all, was done independently or on J Records or something, back then. That album would have shot sky high.

[@rondas7772]

I love his grown old man voice, I've been rocking him since ne album heartbreak

[@michaelharris9673]

That bad boy deal also broke that raggedy contract they were signed to for years with mca which they've all admitted at various times was the blessings of the deal with Puff.

[@mrsain19]

to which, yes......they should thank Puff, but the real person they should have been thanking was Clive.

[@C-Lyfe85]

@@mrsain19 Clive Davis is a dirtbag himself.

[@djdoncruse1952]

They needed Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis to over see that album

[@terencehorn6199]

Yes Johnny deserves all his Flowers, recognition for longevity, career, his voice and everything else.

[@cwin721]

Start turning me on, hot tonight, come home with me, sexy lady, rewrite the memories, newness etc. I love that One Love album

[@charlesjones6708]

You don't have to worry remix was something serious.

[@WalkingWallet]

Facts!!

[@christines1821]

Bobby brown snapped on this remix I stay listening to it nobody could touch a bad boy remix

[@mrsain19]

Missy. Stevie J. and Chucky Thompson did the real work there. obviously Bobby cooked it.

[@lewjones3]

Hot Tonight was a hot track!! Ryan could've also used it for himself

[@darrellthomas884]

I remember maybe Ralph was looking at a performance around that time and said they were "113".....lol

[@mrsain19]

if you know what was going on with Puff and 112 around that time, doesnt surprise me that Ralph said what he said. Ralph knew it was some industry political BS going on.

[@CensorTube84]

Damn I forgot all about LSG…respect to Johnny Gill 💯

[@2bleavin]

Hes right, he put in the work and longevity, AND his voice ranks up there with some of the greats Teddy P, Luther etc, hes deserving of his flowers

[@ntuthukobrendonbhengu7518]

Puff didn't let NE do NE how they do, but for what it's worth that venture gave birth to one of my all-time favourite upbeat R&B songs in Hot Tonight. That was my jam in 7th grade.

[@wingchundragon]

HOT TONIGHT was a dope track and video

[@koaelmorz7073]

my my my and There you go/boomerang song. Still fiya 🔥🔥💯💯

[@Farrahwalker78]

Yes, he has definitely been underrated and unappreciated.

[@vladtv]

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[@kaydenthabeast]

The Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis Tracks (Newness Come Home With Me & Rewrite The Memories ) On One Love Are Literally The Saving Graces Of One Love Cause The Album As A Whole Felt Like A BBD Album With Ralph & Johnny I Liked Love Again As Well

[@ultimategaming1441]

How did it feel like an BBD album besides all on you?

[@kaydenthabeast]

@@ultimategaming1441 the beats that were used on majority of it sounded like the BBD Album from 2001 I felt it didn’t represent new edition “start turning me on yeah Ralph leads it but it sounds more like a BBD beat” I felt the songs bad boy did minus love again were more on the BBD side even if Ralph or Johnny were leading it didn’t represent their voices tracks like “come home with me rewrite the memories” are songs that better represent New Edition as a whole but I felt if you took Ralph & johnnys voice off majority of the bad boy produced tracks it would essentially be a BBD album shit they even preformed “hot tonight” as BBD 😂😂 It’s not a bad Album but in my opinion as I was listening to it I was just like puffy lowkey wanted BBD more than New Edition

[@charlesdoss4162]

I l-o-v-e-d ONE LOVE....still bump it no matter the season....better than HEARTBREAK by a inch without "hits".....

[@BIGMIKE-k3d]

Definitely not better than heartbreak😂😂

[@michaelrayii7102]

That album had a couple bangers on it though.

[@robcinq5956]

That one love album had 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Coach_LW]

This is a great interview

[@davidsawtelle3775]

For me I've heard nearly all the best singers from last century and this century. No one sings better than Johnny Gill.

[@davidsawtelle3775]

I like Alexander O'Neal and he has quite a few great songs. I also like Kci Haley as far as turn of the century singers. Check out the song Perfect with JG and Ralph.

[@72Dexter72Manley72]

​@finessnu2903Man I love Alexander O'Neal. He can do uptempo as well as slow jams. I'm just happy Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis still hooked him up with songs to sing. The group The Time with Alexander as lead would have killed. But would we even know who Morris Day is if Alexander didn't leave the group ?. Johnny is right up there also. His runs are unmatched in my opinion.

[@Oleskool1956]

JG is 'Top Shelf ' no doubt!...but my ole skool roots put Donny Hathaway at the top of the list...

[@newelldavis1858]

Marvin and Luther

[@72Dexter72Manley72]

@@Oleskool1956 I love listening to Donny. He just didn't have the longevity of Johnny Gill. Their voices are in completely different ranges also.

[@youngair24]

I was 12 when Hot2nite came out and it was fire! Underrated

[@rahsaanhill5781]

The bad boy album was not bad at all.

[@RaquelCGary]

I actually really liked Hot Tonight! It was a bop. Something I would’ve expected 112 to sing lol

[@brownin329]

It probably was their song, but.

[@RaquelCGary]

@@brownin329 oh snap I didn’t even think about that

[@mrsain19]

Ryan Leslie joint, likely wasnt originally meant for 112. But 112 went to def jam, and Puff tried to fight that too. But Lyor Cohen was over there ready to crush Puff over that. It took Clive to somewhat step in and broker peace and compromise in that situation. and part of me feels like that was the only reason Puff wanted to do business with NE anyway. Lets get one of the biggest groups of all time to crush 112 then.......thinking they were ungrateful or something. then you get NE and you begin clashing with them too. shit, NE should have went to def jam too lol.

[@tootie904]

My tops: Rewrite the Memories Newness Feelin It Been So Long

[@Mercury804]

Hot Tonight was fire. I was DJing at the time and that joint was ringing off in the 25+ clubs. Not really in the 18+ clubs though

[@Kezonenyc]

Hot Tonight was 🔥

[@richardmccormick859]

King of soulful soundtracks hands down. 🎤

[@kristinaparker5597]

Johnny DEFINITELY needs to get allllll his flowers 💐 That One Love album was terrible and I thought New Edition signing with Bad Boy was a huge mistake because no matter what it was going to be about Puffy.

[@Popkorn274]

If it wasn't for you New Edition would have never got beyond the bubble gum he helped them grow with the fans!

[@phillip1516]

Real talk he deserves his respect ✊

[@debrahenderson]

Yes give Johnny Gill his Hollywood Walk Of Fame he DESERVE IT FOR REAL

[@josephohene3362]

Puffy seem to have issues with " EVERYBODY" back in the days.

[@ericaford4808]

JG is Amazing! Love you ❤

[@tyanttaylor60]

KC from jodeci gave Johnny Gill his flowers on the R&B Money podcast 💯💕💯💕

[@mrbgladney71]

Yeah Puff Was N Stacy Lattisaws 1st Video ..TeachN Her Dance Moves...Eas"T"exas Respect 2 Mr. Gill A True Livin Legend.

[@blaqpharaoh7732]

No cap just pulled up to my house banging My My My 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

[@pariswatkins626]

Johnny RULZ!!! He's one of the best singer out of DC since Ronny Dyson

[@steven1811]

It was probably the Tyson vs Bruce Seldon fight that Johnny took him to. Someone check to see if Keffie D was at that fight as well. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@mrsain19]

lol thats funny. But my guess was that it was one of the Tyson vs Razor Ruddock fights of the early 90s. and truth be told, possibly a Sugar Ray Leonard fight, late in his career. It was said that JG and Sugar Ray were pretty good friends at the time.

[@starbury2007]

“You don’t have to worry” was that jawn

[@rubengutierrez5102]

JG's smart, he bought the New Edition name, without asking Johnny Gill, you can't book New Edition. DC's a smart businessman.

[@bencromwell707]

New Edition's One Love Was A Solid Album💯👍

[@ubanwogu1185]

Yea but there’s something funny about artists and their sonic brand: always a hit or miss when artists stray too far from the sound and style they’re known for. Only a few like Ye succeed with that. Look at what happened to Snoop’s career after Dre left Deathrow. It was pretty unstable until he linked back up with Dre in 99-2000 era. In contrast, look at Kendrick’s career: he went from pure TDE to Aftermath, but Dre let him keep his whole team, and they got even better and grew organically with the sound, concepts and all.

[@bencromwell707]

@@ubanwogu1185 I see what you're saying I agree for sure

[@deeliciousgrapes]

Johnny is that man.

[@kendallsmith5798]

“ all the 1st class flights I took, he never sat next to me “ 😂😂😂 we know you rich vlad damn

[@robcinq5956]

"Whos gonna come home with me" "Leave me" Newness" All beautiful joints But "Rewrite the memories" is top 10 New Edition of all time

[@johnnylee8086]

Yes indeed. The best songs on the album

[@robcinq5956]

@@johnnylee8086 Jam and Lewis wrote Newness and Rewrite

[@derrickknox4719]

"One Love" is a CLASSIC ALBUM!!! It just wasn't marketed or promoted right.

[@stlfromdakrew]

I Love That Album

[@mixroh1825]

Hot 2 nite was the jam still play it now

[@checkerslane]

I would like to hear him say more on that ONE LOVE album I read Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis had a few songs for that Album which Puffy rejected cause he couldnt afford it

[@mrsain19]

he could afford it. he just didnt want Jam/Lewis getting shine for NE getting red hot again. it was political, not financial.

[@SuperCarlo06]

That album was Bangin' to me

[@ghanasoul]

From 1:13-2:15 Mr. Gill is basically pouring his heart out saying he felt never felt respected or acknowledged in all the 40 years hes put in. Vlad hears all of that and totally changes the subject and doesn’t even respond to what Mr. Gill just said. He just totally goes left field and talks bout something TOTALLY different. Not a good interviewer at all. Sorry. 🙄

[@shymcg]

Agreed!!! Smh 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@williamstone1536]

Legend and 120% maturity and class!

[@kidd19851]

The song wit Missy was fire tho

[@yemo2365]

That was the remix of "You Don't Have to Worry" from the "Home Again" album. "One Love" is the album that was on Bad Boy.

[@fuhyou3223]

Sounds like Johnny was MMMMMMMMMMAD as hell at Puffy!! That damn Diddy.

[@MegaMan-ie5ef]

You get my respect Johnny Gill 😎💯🔥🎧👀🎙️👊🏽.

[@MrBean617]

I love the album…🤷🏾‍♂️

[@juswolf22]

That’s why I lied was the best song on that album

[@donofman]

That Hot tonight song was awesome.

[@barrywilliamsjr5390]

Well Johnny, the next time the nominations for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame comes out if there's any justice, New Edition will finally get nominated and you definitely have my vote for induction.💯

[@brownin329]

They're not a rock band. We need the RRHOF to stop bringing in who is popular and stick to Rock and Roll. That would easily clear out 85% or more of the current membership.

[@barrywilliamsjr5390]

I know New Edition Isn't a rock band. I'm 51 years old so I'm old enough to know where rock and roll originated from, which was from blues and rhythm and blues. And since New Edition is a r and b group, that makes them totally qualified to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Now there are a lot of artists, from Cheap Trick to Percy Sledge to the Mamas and the Papas who in my opinion shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame, especially Dolly Parton. So I agree with you that at least 85 percent of the artists that are in the Hall of Fame shouldn't be in there.

[@PLANETBANDITTV]

Gill your amazing bro. U got the props

[@wesleymills560]

“All of those first class flights I took” gssh lol

[@jeep128]

But I will say again hopefully they will be able to release unrelease LSG tracks

[@runningoutoftyme]

Huh????? That album was a muthafuckin classic!!!!

[@brenndoncopeland3213]

When will I see you smile again_ BBD* ppl forget his vocals are on on tis legendary song.. JG is one of my R&B top 5* (Please sing @ my nxt wedding)

[@brownin329]

Where? The background vocals?

[@brenndoncopeland3213]

@brownin329 yes sir...

[@rubengutierrez5102]

Like the kids in NYC say, "You've got to know the business side of the music industry." which JG knows.

[@elizabethdaniel646]

Love that album

[@branfordmonticello853]

A lot of good songs on that Puff album. But I understand. He was all over the songs talking like he was sonning them when they were in the game before he got out of middle school.

[@carlthomas5307]

Johnny is not lying. He’s not gotten the respect due (neither has NE). 40 years in the business, no Hall Of Fame, no Lifetime Achievement from the Shammys…….excuse me……the Grammys. That’s a crying shame.

[@mickealwise3342]

That One Love album was 🔥🔥

[@MAZISBK]

Johnny Gill was the truth

[@BruceWayne-wn7ww]

Not Really.... It had some nice songs

[@TedlaEKHAN]

JG deserves to get more recognition

[@ItsMoonManTV]

Salute Johnny Gil

[@craigcook6233]

Newness was my favorite song

[@SeptemberVirgo78]

Do y’all notice something??

[@jdrayton7224]

No

[@dimplesd9891]

Last time was my jam!!!!!!!!!!

[@jamesball5743]

All class!