Johnny Gill: New Edition Didn't Like Our Album with Puffy, We Argued with Him a Lot (Part 15)

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Johnny Gill spoke about his journey in the music industry, from launching a solo career to joining established groups and experiencing the nuances of the industry. His second album reached number six on the Billboard charts, going double platinum. Gill also discussed his time with the band New Edition, including their seventh album being created under Puffy's direction at Bad Boy Records. He revealed that the album-making process was not smooth, as disagreements ensued over respect and treatment. Despite the internal turmoil, Gill acknowledged the value of Puffy providing an opportunity for New Edition when they were in a difficult situation with their previous label, MCA. Although the collaboration proved challenging, Gill expressed gratitude for the platform and experience.

[@williamowens2674]

100% RIGHT! Johnny never got or gets the just due or respect he earned and deserves as one of the greatest R&B vocalists of all time! Flowers Brother!

[@CesarChavez-bn6iv]

Big MF’n Facts 💯🎯

[@loudiamonds6587]

Wack songs and albums don't help tho

[@grovedwayne390]

Lady Dejour and There you go. 🔥 🔥 Classics

[@nitoduzit]

Right. He brought genuine singing artistry to New Edition. Just to name one of many power points.

[@4Bang9Gang]

How not when those of us that know he is an amazing vocalist give him his flowers. Those of us who know his addition to NE turned the group into grown men. So how doesn’t he get his just due? Who’s validation will solidify JG’s greatness?

[@AndthefuturelookedBlack-hq7hy]

Johnny Gill is, HANDS DOWN, one of the TOP GREAT VOCALISTS in the history of R&B. 💯% RESPECT & SALUTE to Johnny Gill.💐💐💐

[@dwayne3496]

Salute to Johnny Gill, one of the best in R&B History⭐️💫

[@tpitts9587]

Johnny deserves his FLOWERS AND RESPECT!

[@digitallhm8160]

He's a multiplatinum artist in a multiplatinum group. He's been given his flowers and respect a long time ago

[@MrSuSp7]

Why do Y'all keep saying "Flowers" like flowers don't die, yall say the dumbest shit nowadays

[@ikellycavalli]

Legend

[@pensiveczar2239]

@@MrSuSp7 Seriously. That "flowers" shit that gets thrown around now is corny. Just say that he deserves his credit.

[@gdc6153]

Let's face it. He kinda saved New Edition after Bobby was gone.

[@jaybritt6275]

JOHNNY GILL , JR. YOU ARE A " GIANT " ON BEHALF OF YOUR FANS IN WASHINGTON , D . C . YOU ARE ONE OF A LIFETIME TALENT . THANK YOU , JOHNNY GILL ,JR .

[@brandonanderson2790]

Johnny is right … he is a legend and a beast and deserves the awards

[@72Dexter72Manley72]

Johnnys vocal runs are unmatched. 🎵🎼🎶🔊

[@leihough2913]

I remember seeing Mr. Gill on the life & timez of Eazy-E dvd... he was one of the few celebrities that went 2 Eazy-E's funeral

[@Mz.D]

Even his newer music are hits. Game changer, 5000 miles, soul of a woman,it would be you plus more. This man is very talented and definitely deserves recognition now.

[@johnm8744]

The way he laughed when Vlad said “Which Puffy had his hands all over” 🤣🤣🤣

[@mrsain19]

LOVED that Vlad did that and said that, because it was true. he refused to actually let NE just be NE.

[@chazztastic]

I still bump Re-Write the Memories from the One Love album. Such a good song.

[@ubanwogu1185]

Yep, and that’s because it was hooked up by Jam & Lewis. When you have established artists like that, it makes sense to trust them enough to give them creative freedom. Imagine if they simply had Jam & Lewis just oversee the music on that album…

[@rondas7772]

Yep I still like that song

[@birdbz]

sure is

[@mrsain19]

was supposed to be an official single. NE pushed for it. Puff nixxed it, like a fool.

[@ricoalvarez8323]

The Johnny Gill solo track, "Come Home With Me" was an underrated monster slow jam. Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis did their thing, with that Johnny lead New Edition slow jam.

[@djdoncruse1952]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@dimplesd9891]

I remember that song

[@bryantwilliams647]

💯🔥🔥🔥

[@demoss75]

Giving my all to you is my favorite

[@Dablkwid0w2008]

There You Go is my jam

[@nakitapalmer656]

Now HOT TONIGHT was my JAM!!! They showed off on that track!!!😍😍😍😍😍😍

[@MySuperman78]

Facts!!!!

[@BeyBrightOfficial]

I love that track and they do themselves a disservice by not performing it because that’s one of their best songs in my opinion! It would be great in concert with their stage presence!

[@michaeljackson8182]

Home Tonight was the jam

[@nakitapalmer656]

@@BeyBrightOfficial You know what....I never noticed that they dont perform that song until you stated it!!😲

[@lornawest47]

I love that song and the video

[@standforluv]

The fact that an OG in the music game said they weren’t treated fairly and it was all about Diddy now solidifies Diddy is a selfish pompass narcissist. People like Daron Jones from 112 need to STOP covering for him. I was in a week long instagram conversation with him about Diddy giving all of the artists signed to Bad Boy back their publishing. He kept saying it’s just the nature of the music business and blah blah blah. Diddy is a VERY broken man who uses people.

[@WalkingWallet]

Almost all record labels owned the artists publishing, it sucks, but Puffy wasn't the 1st or last to do it...

[@brownin329]

This is not news. We've been knowing this from the days of him working with Stacy Lattisaw...

[@mrsain19]

publishing aint shit, tbh. if Puff REALLY wanted to make a major move, regardless of motive, he would have given everyone their masters. THEN that would have been a big deal. there is some $ in publishing. but you get those masters, and pair it with the publishing, and then you are cooking with crisco. Slim and Mike moving the 112 brand forward, Daron should be trying to rebuild the bridge there. Thats part of their drama in itself. But im not surprised. Daron has a lot of production credits on Bad Boy, so he has been getting paid a little bit differently over the years than the rest of the fellas. also, another issue within the group, earned or not.

[@ericrowland3246]

I’m a music head and I remember 2004. I graduated high school that year AND Puffy was on fire cause he brought back New Edition, Mase and he signed 8 Ball and MJG.

[@tinastreet4428]

I remember seeing that hot2nite come out on BET and had no clue who New Edition was 😂😂😂

[@dsg3053]

Puffy wasn't on fire in 2004

[@cchisolm92cc]

​@@dsg3053😂 I was like puff was going down around 04'. He was signing a lot of older acts in order to gain one hit with their name to write off on his taxes.

[@CelinaWilson-mx9os]

Johnny thats ARTistry, multi talents....not just one talent love., keep it going...😊❤ BLACK DIAMOND 💎

[@canicole20]

Who remembers that episode of Family Matters when Steve hired Johnny Gill to sing to Laura and Laura was freaking out and falling all over herself? 😂

[@bettywilliams9633]

I I'll always remember that episode

[@sihlencube6601]

SHe completely forgot abt Steve he had to chase Jonny away seeing him as threat😂🤣🤣

[@mrsain19]

i wonder if JG really was/is a vintage sports card chaser in real life? he made a VERY good deal with Urkel for the cards he got.

[@derryconley2540]

I love JG . He will always be one of my favorite singers.

[@glennusher4160]

Such a Loyal and Talented Person.

[@chrisa4695]

Believe it Johnny, you are much respected. Everyone I talk to about music consistently rates you one of the best male vocalists of all time. You are top 5 in my book. Heads of State was underrated. I was hoping for an album.

[@djdoncruse1952]

They needed Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis to over see that album

[@littlecubana2800]

My grandpa used to manage him he deserves sooo much more, my fav ❤❤😍❤️❤️🙌🏽

[@rondas7772]

I love his grown old man voice, I've been rocking him since ne album heartbreak

[@michaelharris9673]

That bad boy deal also broke that raggedy contract they were signed to for years with mca which they've all admitted at various times was the blessings of the deal with Puff.

[@mrsain19]

to which, yes......they should thank Puff, but the real person they should have been thanking was Clive.

[@C-Lyfe85]

@@mrsain19 Clive Davis is a dirtbag himself.

[@storminnorman6727]

Johnny Gill New Edition song Boys To Men is unmatched Johnny was one one and gave us a banger

[@zeplinali189]

To be honest that One love album, was one of there best CD. Puffy definitely updated there sound and gave it swagg for that time. The recording process was probably difficult but the results were great

[@RickBizzy]

I love the One Love CD also & was disappointed they didn't perform any of the songs when I seen them perform right after the time that CD dropped

[@talmadgemillerjr6430]

Absolutely agree. It had straight back to back hits all the way across the board. That album was fiya

[@PamelaBellOfficial]

I loved that album. You're right he did update their sound, made it current and hot.

[@efree345]

True 👍🏿

[@IENetworkTV]

lmao exactly it was better than ne heartbreak to me but that's just me lol

[@lewjones3]

Hot Tonight was a hot track!! Ryan could've also used it for himself

[@djsoulchild]

The best tracks from the "One Love" recording sessions didn't even make the final cut of the album. "K.I.T. ( Keep In Touch)" and "About Love" produced by Jam & Lewis, "Got It Like That" produced by Ryan Leslie...real heads know!!! Y'all go and search those tracks on here. It's damn near a criminal offense that Puffy didn't add them to the tracklist!!!! They would've made the album so much better! 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Knyte77]

Especially K.I.T. That would have been a hit and should have been the first or second single after "Hot 2 Nite."

[@djsoulchild]

@@Knyte77 Indeed, bro! "K.I.T." would've been the perfect intro track on the album too! 🔥🔥🔥

[@christines1821]

Omg I was looking for this comment I agree with all you’ve said

[@rashawnda-professor2999]

Good Morning. Thanks for sharing this information. N.E. revealed that they wanted more tracks by Jam and Lewis but Puffy refused claming that there wasn't enough money in the budget. Jam and Lewis even offered to give them the tracks free of charge but Puffy refused. I feel that after Hot 2 Nite the label could have released other songs including All On You, Start Turnin Me On and Come Home With Me as follow ups

[@mrsain19]

@@rashawnda-professor2999 because Puff knew if NE (on Bad Boy) blew again, and due to the tracks from Jam/Lewis and not those from Ryan Leslie, Stevie J, D-Dot, etc.......than that would sort of be a slap in the face to the in house Bad Boy production team (in Puff's head) and thus making them look worthless. Then other acts would want the same type of deal, earned or not. Because then the recipe would be set. I get it. but at the same time.......Puff was foolish here. Thats NE. you gotta let NE.......BE NE. and there was plenty of room for all of the tracks. This is why Bad Boy is bad boy.......and why labels like Interscope.......Republic.........Empire.........The Orchard............are the way they are. They allow their artists to be themselves. That album had a good 4-5 singles on it, if done right and in the proper order. Imagine if that same album, unreleased tracks and all, was done independently or on J Records or something, back then. That album would have shot sky high.

[@ntuthukobrendonbhengu7518]

Puff didn't let NE do NE how they do, but for what it's worth that venture gave birth to one of my all-time favourite upbeat R&B songs in Hot Tonight. That was my jam in 7th grade.

[@cwin721]

Start turning me on, hot tonight, come home with me, sexy lady, rewrite the memories, newness etc. I love that One Love album

[@luvte1]

Johnny was wonderful in this interview and I am looking forward to hearing more from him. Johnny was very insightful and honest.

[@darrellthomas884]

I remember maybe Ralph was looking at a performance around that time and said they were "113".....lol

[@mrsain19]

if you know what was going on with Puff and 112 around that time, doesnt surprise me that Ralph said what he said. Ralph knew it was some industry political BS going on.

[@mathewsbusiness1263]

Damn I forgot all about LSG…respect to Johnny Gill 💯

[@Farrahwalker78]

Yes, he has definitely been underrated and unappreciated.

[@debrahenderson]

Yes give Johnny Gill his Hollywood Walk Of Fame he DESERVE IT FOR REAL

[@charlesjones6708]

You don't have to worry remix was something serious.

[@WalkingWallet]

Facts!!

[@christines1821]

Bobby brown snapped on this remix I stay listening to it nobody could touch a bad boy remix

[@mrsain19]

Missy. Stevie J. and Chucky Thompson did the real work there. obviously Bobby cooked it.

[@koaelmorz7073]

my my my and There you go/boomerang song. Still fiya 🔥🔥💯💯

[@terencehorn6199]

Yes Johnny deserves all his Flowers, recognition for longevity, career, his voice and everything else.

[@wingchundragon]

HOT TONIGHT was a dope track and video

[@2bleavin]

Hes right, he put in the work and longevity, AND his voice ranks up there with some of the greats Teddy P, Luther etc, hes deserving of his flowers

[@rahsaanhill5781]

The bad boy album was not bad at all.

[@Coach_Wane]

This is a great interview

[@ericaford4808]

JG is Amazing! Love you ❤

[@robcinq5956]

That one love album had 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@starbury2007]

“You don’t have to worry” was that jawn

[@michaelrayii7102]

That album had a couple bangers on it though.

[@vladtv]

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[@charlesdoss4162]

I l-o-v-e-d ONE LOVE....still bump it no matter the season....better than HEARTBREAK by a inch without "hits".....

[@user-kz3ur2ph1l]

Definitely not better than heartbreak😂😂

[@kaydenthabeast]

The Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis Tracks (Newness Come Home With Me & Rewrite The Memories ) On One Love Are Literally The Saving Graces Of One Love Cause The Album As A Whole Felt Like A BBD Album With Ralph & Johnny I Liked Love Again As Well

[@ultimategaming1441]

How did it feel like an BBD album besides all on you?

[@kaydenthabeast]

@@ultimategaming1441 the beats that were used on majority of it sounded like the BBD Album from 2001 I felt it didn’t represent new edition “start turning me on yeah Ralph leads it but it sounds more like a BBD beat” I felt the songs bad boy did minus love again were more on the BBD side even if Ralph or Johnny were leading it didn’t represent their voices tracks like “come home with me rewrite the memories” are songs that better represent New Edition as a whole but I felt if you took Ralph & johnnys voice off majority of the bad boy produced tracks it would essentially be a BBD album shit they even preformed “hot tonight” as BBD 😂😂 It’s not a bad Album but in my opinion as I was listening to it I was just like puffy lowkey wanted BBD more than New Edition

[@youngair24]

I was 12 when Hot2nite came out and it was fire! Underrated

[@patricknewsome6007]

I actually liked that album. I promise if you go back and listen, you’ll like it

[@krustyyates4418]

Not a terrible album but it felt like two different albums. Half New Edition and the other half Bad Boy. Just didn’t quite work.

[@chadholmes5599]

I agree, from what I understand though the production was a challenge for NE members, they wanted to stick with the “formula” of Jam and Lewis who Puffy had a personal issue with and thought he could package them like 112 or Day26 but those were NEW artists which Bad Boy developed, NE didn’t need that, Puffy was too self centered to see the flaws

[@mrsain19]

@@chadholmes5599 in the short version, yep. i understood Puff's stance, regardless of his silly issues with Jam/Lewis, but he was foolish to try to mess with the NE formula too crazily. the album is nice.......but he dropped the ball on the push. it could have been better, and it surely could have been bigger. essentially, only die hard NE fans got it. and the majority of them likely downloaded it illegally or got a burnt copy. had puff done it right, bad boy fans would have gotten it, and some other demographics too.

[@RaquelCGary]

I actually really liked Hot Tonight! It was a bop. Something I would’ve expected 112 to sing lol

[@brownin329]

It probably was their song, but.

[@RaquelCGary]

@@brownin329 oh snap I didn’t even think about that

[@mrsain19]

Ryan Leslie joint, likely wasnt originally meant for 112. But 112 went to def jam, and Puff tried to fight that too. But Lyor Cohen was over there ready to crush Puff over that. It took Clive to somewhat step in and broker peace and compromise in that situation. and part of me feels like that was the only reason Puff wanted to do business with NE anyway. Lets get one of the biggest groups of all time to crush 112 then.......thinking they were ungrateful or something. then you get NE and you begin clashing with them too. shit, NE should have went to def jam too lol.

[@blaqpharaoh7732]

No cap just pulled up to my house banging My My My 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

[@Mercury804]

Hot Tonight was fire. I was DJing at the time and that joint was ringing off in the 25+ clubs. Not really in the 18+ clubs though

[@Kezonenyc]

Hot Tonight was 🔥

[@tootie904]

My tops: Rewrite the Memories Newness Feelin It Been So Long

[@pudgestayssuckafree4145]

That album with Puffy wasn't their vibe 💯

[@terrellmattress1778]

The part when talks about puffy on the jet, told me a lot 😊

[@davidsawtelle3775]

For me I've heard nearly all the best singers from last century and this century. No one sings better than Johnny Gill.

[@davidsawtelle3775]

I like Alexander O'Neal and he has quite a few great songs. I also like Kci Haley as far as turn of the century singers. Check out the song Perfect with JG and Ralph.

[@72Dexter72Manley72]

​@finessnu2903Man I love Alexander O'Neal. He can do uptempo as well as slow jams. I'm just happy Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis still hooked him up with songs to sing. The group The Time with Alexander as lead would have killed. But would we even know who Morris Day is if Alexander didn't leave the group ?. Johnny is right up there also. His runs are unmatched in my opinion.

[@Oleskool1956]

JG is 'Top Shelf ' no doubt!...but my ole skool roots put Donny Hathaway at the top of the list...

[@newelldavis1858]

Marvin and Luther

[@72Dexter72Manley72]

@@Oleskool1956 I love listening to Donny. He just didn't have the longevity of Johnny Gill. Their voices are in completely different ranges also.

[@kristinaparker5597]

Johnny DEFINITELY needs to get allllll his flowers 💐 That One Love album was terrible and I thought New Edition signing with Bad Boy was a huge mistake because no matter what it was going to be about Puffy.

[@tyanttaylor60]

KC from jodeci gave Johnny Gill his flowers on the R&B Money podcast 💯💕💯💕

[@richardmccormick859]

King of soulful soundtracks hands down. 🎤

[@williamstone1536]

Legend and 120% maturity and class!

[@mrbgladney71]

Yeah Puff Was N Stacy Lattisaws 1st Video ..TeachN Her Dance Moves...Eas"T"exas Respect 2 Mr. Gill A True Livin Legend.

[@phillip1516]

Real talk he deserves his respect ✊

[@mrhmd8308]

I like Vlad interviews because he meets with people from various walks of life. A diverse vid-folio.

[@thebndt]

Gill your amazing bro. U got the props

[@Popkorn274]

If it wasn't for you New Edition would have never got beyond the bubble gum he helped them grow with the fans!

[@gorgiodelmont1719]

Yes,after something as epic as Home Again the BB album was subpar in comparison. We will say this though. Hot 2 Night by Ryan Leslie was a helluva jam

[@josephohene3362]

Puffy seem to have issues with " EVERYBODY" back in the days.

[@elizabethdaniel646]

Love that album

[@steven1811]

It was probably the Tyson vs Bruce Seldon fight that Johnny took him to. Someone check to see if Keffie D was at that fight as well. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@mrsain19]

lol thats funny. But my guess was that it was one of the Tyson vs Razor Ruddock fights of the early 90s. and truth be told, possibly a Sugar Ray Leonard fight, late in his career. It was said that JG and Sugar Ray were pretty good friends at the time.

[@checkerslane]

I would like to hear him say more on that ONE LOVE album I read Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis had a few songs for that Album which Puffy rejected cause he couldnt afford it

[@mrsain19]

he could afford it. he just didnt want Jam/Lewis getting shine for NE getting red hot again. it was political, not financial.

[@brenndoncopeland3213]

When will I see you smile again_ BBD* ppl forget his vocals are on on tis legendary song.. JG is one of my R&B top 5* (Please sing @ my nxt wedding)

[@brownin329]

Where? The background vocals?

[@brenndoncopeland3213]

@brownin329 yes sir...

[@deeliciousgrapes]

Johnny is that man.

[@MegaMan-ie5ef]

You get my respect Johnny Gill 😎💯🔥🎧👀🎙️👊🏽.

[@jamesball5743]

All class!

[@mixroh1825]

Hot 2 nite was the jam still play it now

[@SuperCarlo06]

That album was Bangin' to me

[@TheBulletzgottishow20]

This was interview Johnny gill is a real one

[@derrickknox4719]

"One Love" is a CLASSIC ALBUM!!! It just wasn't marketed or promoted right.

[@arlington4508]

Oh I’m sad they hated the One Love album. I loved that album.

[@donofman]

That Hot tonight song was awesome.

[@pariswatkins626]

Johnny RULZ!!! He's one of the best singer out of DC since Ronny Dyson

[@bencromwell707]

New Edition's One Love Was A Solid Album💯👍

[@ubanwogu1185]

Yea but there’s something funny about artists and their sonic brand: always a hit or miss when artists stray too far from the sound and style they’re known for. Only a few like Ye succeed with that. Look at what happened to Snoop’s career after Dre left Deathrow. It was pretty unstable until he linked back up with Dre in 99-2000 era. In contrast, look at Kendrick’s career: he went from pure TDE to Aftermath, but Dre let him keep his whole team, and they got even better and grew organically with the sound, concepts and all.

[@bencromwell707]

@@ubanwogu1185 I see what you're saying I agree for sure

[@dicktony8330]

I can only speak for me and my cousin, you are our favorite of all time.

[@stlfromdakrew]

I Love That Album

[@kendallsmith5798]

“ all the 1st class flights I took, he never sat next to me “ 😂😂😂 we know you rich vlad damn

[@HoodHandyman]

Well said

[@rubengutierrez5102]

Like the kids in NYC say, "You've got to know the business side of the music industry." which JG knows.

[@mickealwise3342]

That One Love album was 🔥🔥

[@roemellohill79]

Facts underrated

[@natv2546]

mr Gil put in work real up up

[@fuhyou3223]

Sounds like Johnny was MMMMMMMMMMAD as hell at Puffy!! That damn Diddy.

[@kidd19851]

The song wit Missy was fire tho

[@yemo2365]

That was the remix of "You Don't Have to Worry" from the "Home Again" album. "One Love" is the album that was on Bad Boy.

[@venteuno]

Salute Johnny Gil

[@juswolf22]

That’s why I lied was the best song on that album

[@statusquo9659]

Johnny.. is a GOAT for sure❤

[@TedlaEKHAN]

JG deserves to get more recognition

[@rubengutierrez5102]

JG's smart, he bought the New Edition name, without asking Johnny Gill, you can't book New Edition. DC's a smart businessman.