Johnny Thunders New York Dolls Red Patent Leather

[@thewayshegoesbud]

Impressive demonstration of harmonica David!

[@pedromachadosk8]

Johnny Thunders RIP

[@victormalyar9200]

He overdosed. I read Thunders was a drug dealer before becoming a rock star.

[@markwasthere]

personally I think its a privilege to see it for me and everyone else, whether its perfect or not.

[@kidblonde]

Thanks for posting this. This live album, released in 1982, it's pretty much the third album by this great band, since most songs (Red Patent Leather, On Fire & Eddie Cochran's Something Else in this clip) are not on their 2 studio albums. It also happens to be my favourite of all their albums. The opening act for this show was Television, with Richard Hell still on bass. Regarding the comments: 1) Steve Jones' Les Paul was nicked from Bowie's Spiders 2) Footage from this gig is in All Dolled Up

[@jamesleyda365]

F*cking awesome....... Rock at its 'i don't give a sh*t' best

[@chickybluetherealone]

I just wanted to add to my last comment, I am grateful also to Steve Conte and the rest of the crew for making the current Doll's happen.

[@chickybluetherealone]

Long live the Doll's! Syl and Johnny r the perfect pair, I didn't know they had a replacement for JT in 1975, interesting. No one could truly replace him tho.

[@Superscawt]

thanks for posting up all of these good videos!

[@oliviaramirez71]

I still have the recording of that show. I loved it then, I love it now.

[@markwasthere]

Blackie also played with Arthur Kane in Corpse Grinder and turned Mr Kool into a Wasp song and changed the name to Cries In The Night

[@MrZerosRememberWhen]

In order to fulfill several dates still left in Florida the band run an ad in the local paper. A young kid from the Bronx answers the ad one Blackie Goozeman (aka Lawless aka Steven Edward Duren: 4 Sep 1956 Staten Island, NYC)

[@markwasthere]

i dont know how many shows they did at this place but its sure damn close to the end of a real NYC dolls show

[@SonyVor]

Never thought I would ever SEE this!

[@ElfeMusik]

so, so great .... thks!!!!

[@ducati900fe081]

I have this album on vinyl. Who cares if they were past their prime on these songs? I appreciate the record of it.

[@RamonePinhead]

That is the legend.

[@lostaglio6666]

the gutiar syl is playing ended up with steve jones of the sex pistols its funny that gibson made a steve jones model a few years ago of the same gutiar. the book too much too soon explains the whole story of how it went from syl to malcom to steve

[@robinrouter2059]

redd redd redd...blood rushing to muh head...i better sit down!!

[@markwasthere]

I blieve Blackie played with DJ & Syl Dolls at the bitter end. Blackie I think was in Arthurs band Corpse grinders or Idols then WASP

[@Scott231TSM]

This is most likely 8 March 1975 with Jerry on drums (notice how Johnny is frequently playing "to" him, his friend) and Peter Jordan on bass. Johnny's shirt does not match a picture of him from the 7th. Arthur was playing with them on the 9th as well as the first three Hippodrome shows (although it appears you see Peter during the March 2nd show in All Dolled Up).

[@meanmrmustard62]

+Scott231TSM They had recently written several songs and were in the midst of trying to get away from playing the same set they had been doing for a long time. For many years there were rumors that there was a 3rd album in the can, but this was not true. With a few more originals they would have had enough for another album, but with other problems starting to cause a lot of trouble within the band it never happened. Too bad too!

[@madaleine0n864]

It's not Nolan on Drums....you can hear Jerry playing these songs on the Columbia video....The woman who is saying it's Spider Sanders..is an insider from way back then.......were lucky she's Told us Nolan was ill....he lived around the corner from me at the time, l spoke to him on the street once...saying l ha d seen the gig . ( upper East side 76 st.)...he said..." what show did you see...l wasn't there for..."...He was the most talkative...Sylvain too...but Sylvain you never saw....bye.

[@abelpepper6641]

Looks like Jerry's posture but mostly, drummer here is a lefty as Jerry was. Unless Spider Sanders was a lefty also it's gotta be Jerry.

[@RavnerRavner]

​@@abelpepper6641 I'm almost sure it's Spyder

[@goblindealer]

great stuff

[@rawone72]

@mariosthunders blackie did replace(or filled in for) johnny for a few gigs after johnny and jerry split the dolls. recommend the book of new york dolls by nina antonia. there are a lot of facts of new york dolls`' career in seventies

[@solsunson262]

RPL tour best post 1974 NYDs tour!!

[@PistolsAudun]

@IxxxDooMxxxI The guitarplayer to the left is Sylvain Sylvain... Not Blackie!

[@gornackguy]

On Fire

[@hugegadjit]

Still a bit of life in 'em here! Thanks for posting this. What's Syl wearing??

[@markwasthere]

i don't think it was all Malcolm's fault.

[@ernestodelaserna9494]

Anyone got the lyrics to Red Patent Leather? Here's all I could get: "Ya say 'let's paint the town red' ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? nearly dead But when I put the lip to my icy fingertips I got the blood rushing to my head With a little ???? feather ??? scalpin ??? weather ??? drift all through the door screaming red patent leather I'd feel so much better If you didn't come around no more Cuz red you're the judge Red you're the jury Red's the executioner Remember what the chairman said You try to ??? ??? get to bed Cuz when you get up You drive a tractor and truck Gonna paint the whole town red With red patent leather with flashy scarlet letters drifting all through the door screaming red patent leather I'd feel so much better If you didn't come around no more Cuz red you're the judge Red you're the jury Red's the executioner Red you're the judge Red is the jury Red's the executioner

[@madaleine0n864]

...You tired darlings better get to bed....cause when l get up , l drive a trashmans..truck, gonna paint the whole town red...with a little injun feather,gonna flash in scarlet letters,gonna trip all through the door-or...just give me red patent leathers, l feel so.much better, she didn't come around no more.....

[@madaleine0n864]

Question is...whats the first words; sounds like ; She's got a strange form of love ,my heart feel like it's been drug with a truck,she's screaming; when l get home,l won't be alone , I'll be with my lovin-cup [ Johnny quoted this in ...Going Steady...]

[@twistedspanner]

Hey nice 1 for the lyrics. I've been looking for the for a while now. 👍

[@ernestodelaserna9494]

@@madaleine0n864 I think "tired darlings" is "China dolls", which would make sense since he references "the chairman" as in Chairman Mao just before that.

[@madaleine0n864]

@@ernestodelaserna9494 No...David is known as " The Chairman "...thats certain as Fuck "

[@lostaglio6666]

he played 3 shows in florida

[@madaleine0n864]

lostaglio6666 this is David

[@mariosthunders]

so its true then!As you guys say below, Blackie did replace Johnny for a period of time right?

[@ElvisThunders]

Blackie replaced Johnny in the Dolls for a very short time in 1975. If he played any gigs with the Dolls at all it would have been very few in Florida '75. I have never seen a photo let alone any video of Blackie with the Dolls.

[@Kopperafiel]

Blackie (aka Steve Duren) played the last 3 shows with the Dolls in Florida to keep their commitments. The band had to play the gigs to get enough money to get back to New York. They used a fill-in drummer too. Johnny and Jerry had enough of David and were junk sick since their dealer in Florida had got busted.

[@Kopperafiel]

In Sylvain's book he said they teased Blackies hair up and told him not to look anyone in the eye. I guess from a distance he looked like Johnny. RIP Sylvain Sylvain.

[@gabrielsampaio3660]

Lyrics?

[@markwasthere]

No clue where he played. Nothing I have in my collection mentions him on anything.

[@kidblonde]

I agree with you, and I play harmonica, but I can't remember any Iggy or Stooges song with harmonica on it (but I don't know albums post Blah Blah Blah that well).. which Iggy song were you thinking of? Anyway, better examples of R&R with harmonicas would be (apart from Led Zep, The Stones & John Lennon) The Who, Dylan, Bowie, Lovin' Spoonful, The Doors, The Kinks, The Them, and The Yadbirds, since - as far as R&R is concerned - The Yardies' Keith Relf was the best harmonica player of them all..

[@patticrittendenify]

For all of you who don't know, that was Michael Spider Sanders on Drums Jerry Nolan was home sick

[@robbgeores9365]

nope. That's Jerry in the video

[@madaleine0n864]

@@robbgeores9365 wrong fool

[@markwasthere]

was it any good?

[@coldironhands1]

Does anyone know what all this dolls footage is from? is it form All Dolled up?

[@twistedspanner]

Bob Gruen's video archives. He had tons of footage. He followed them all to the end.

[@markwasthere]

for a very short time frame, might have only been a month

[@markwasthere]

@udohood i seen JT fighting, throwing punches

[@twistedspanner]

who's the bassist Jordan or Killer Kane?

[@somepig2k]

Is Arthur Kane still the bass player here?

[@pahlie39]

somepig2k That is not Arthur, I think that is a guy named Peter Jordan.

[@drloveswhiteinsanity7174]

Ziggy Ziggy Arthur wasnt back from LA yet...he had met the woman who put his book out.

[@Scott231TSM]

Arthur was around but had been drinking too much to play and/or was in rehab.

[@twistedspanner]

That looks like killer Kane to me. Although I've in recent years seen both guys in documentaries. They've both changed. Although this guy looks like Kane but seems more animated than Kane who used to be as stationary as a cardboard cutout. Cos he used to hold his breath at the start of a song until he was appeared drunk. He wasn't drunk he and needed rehab. All he need was a little bit of fresh air. Hahahaha 😊

[@kidblonde]

That's not even The Stooges, Kill City came out as Iggy Pop & James Williamson, released long after it was done. Harmonica is not a typical trait of The Stooges' sound. They have celesta on Peneratrion, hence the celesta is a great part of their music? Tell me that when Scott Thurston was in the band he played harmonica live, if anything...

[@markwasthere]

I believe thats true

[@pbzp]

oh, come on. the line about precedence should've given it away. ;)

[@pbzp]

theonlytruepunk is right... harmonicas have no place in rock and roll, ESPECIALLY if it's blues-based. i mean, there's just no precedent.

[@kidblonde]

Fair enough. I don't think I'm a 'purist' of anything. To be it's all about R&R

[@kimberblackkimberblack7310]

& SOHOДЫ

[@lostaglio6666]

@udohood red your the judge red your the jury red the executioner

[@madaleine0n864]

lostaglio6666 um...kiddys....David is this guy......

[@theonlytruepunk]

I really do not enjoy blues music either...I tried.

[@7hourglass975]

Johnny Thunders is drunk as shit on this record haha

[@theonlytruepunk]

nothing worse than a harmonica in rock and roll...yuck.