The Evil Super Sonic Story ▸ Fleetway's Most Famous Character

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"The Evil Super Sonic Story ▸ Fleetway's Most Famous Character"
In this video we'll be taking a look at Evil Super Sonic, a fascinating interpretation of Sonic's Super form created by the team behind Fleetway's British Sonic the Comic in the 1990s. I'll be explaining the origins of this character, how he differs from Super Sonic in the video games and his tragic fate. Finally, I'll be assessing Evil Super Sonic's legacy on the Sonic video game franchise and on the Archie comic book series.
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[@TheAuron32]

Super Sonic in the games: "YAY, WE'RE SAVED!!" Super Sonic in the comic: "WE. ARE. FUCKED!!"

[@SanstheSkelebro193]

Jegejrrve

[@SpinoAnimationsYT]

Lol

[@Echo_1]

Hyper Sonic: YO THIS SUCKS

[@TheAuron32]

@@Echo_1 i dont even wanna think of what they would do with Hyper Sonic... though, a story idea could be Super splits from sonic again, and hyper emerges as a counter to super, i think that could be a great story arc and one hell of a fight.

[@toxicwayste9031]

@Verified Tiky✔️ I see ur verified

[@kaijunot]

They actually hinted this form of Sonic in the new movie! I was confused when Knuckles said that the chaos emeralds would change their personality, I now know where!

[@Godzilla-hq8jy]

I'm gonna lose my sheet if Fleetway Super is utilized in the new sonic movies

[@sophiaflynn3696]

I genuinely thought they were about to do it and got so excited! There has been so many teasers about this, even one in IDW I feel when they're disposing of the metal virus. Oh the possibilities :(

[@thefrizlord]

I actually didn't realize this detail until u mentioned it lol

[@pastelguts6182]

Yeah I loved that moment in the movie

[@touchgrass7093]

at that point in the movie i was watching with my friends and at that moment i practically yelled "HOLY SHIT FLEETWAY TIME" and was so disappointed when it didnt happen

[@star7communicator434]

Fleetway Super Sonic's story feels like a story of PTSD and accepting past trauma. Sonic lashed out at his friends and became so violent that he tried to separate himself from that side of him, which led to acceptance.

[@JohnnyVector]

Yeah, good analysis

[@OhNoBohNo]

*Sonic's exposure to crystals creating traumatic PTSD responses that make him volatile and hostile, change his color, and make him more powerful at the expense of his regular friendly disposition* Steven Quartz Universe, as of Future: Cheers to that, bro

[@Ashley3AndKnuckles]

this remembers me of flippy from happy tree friends

[@thunderthunderstorms8828]

Personally I saw this as the negative chaos energy affecting what was already there just giving it a means to unleash itself.

[@arcticflames6932]

@@JohnnyVector you wanna know my explanation of fleetway Fleetway:a over load of energy turning sonic into the super form but... something happened and the super form is fueled by hatred and stress

[@NewKillerStar]

You can tell he's from a british Sonic comic because of his teeth

[@JohnnyVector]

Straight out of 'The Big Book of British Smiles'

[@wetboi2898]

As a British the bad dental hygiene stereotype is 100% true, my teeth are fine but most middle aged people (50-60) have lost all their teeth or they look stained

[@wetboi2898]

@@nillathekaiju people think it’s a stereotype, but it’s genuinely true, most people in the UK have really bad dental care

[@faresisnthere687]

Brit'ish

[@rockhistoria2537]

Chewsday

[@richieosborn2639]

Fun Fact: Fleetway Super Sonic’s debut was just one week before Archie Comics adapted the Super Sonic we know. So that means Fleetway Super Sonic is the original Super Sonic!

[@justinsyrup6075]

Oh yeah

[@Shiobana753]

Original comic version at least

[@chandalore9699]

Cool profile pic

[@Opezaculous]

based

[@Chillipeffer]

This is one reason I call him "True Super Sonic" instead of fleetway

[@CrisisComics]

I think turning Fleetway Super Sonic into Iblis was a genius move on the Webcomic writers' part. Not only does it help Silver fit neatly into the timeline with a legitimate hatred for Sonic, but it really does feel like the worst case scenario that could erupt from Super's existence.

[@justcallmekai1554]

If you think about it, this is a fantastic interpretation of him and makes since in the world of Sonic. Chaos is Discord incarnate. So when Sonic uses them, he becomes an agent of Chaos itself. That prefix isn't there for show. Like you said here, when Super Sonic or Chaos is siphoned away from Chaos Radiation, they are way more tame. It would be cool if the games were to use this idea because of Sonic's overuse and lack of actual training with Chaos Energy. In the games he just kinda uses them off hand. It gives consequences to the common transformation.

[@JohnnyVector]

Great comment. It would be cool to see Super Sonic explored more in the games. You're right, Sonic is seemingly able to instantly grasp all of his new powers as Super. A little bit more struggle would be cool.

[@TheAuron32]

totally agree, he literally uses chaos energy and is seemingly able to 100% control it? doesnt make sense, he should go nuts and require someone who DOES understand the emeralds to step up and knock him senseless. it would be a GREAT way to give Super Knuckles a time to shine again.

[@hotdawg6748]

I don't know if that Knuckles from Fleetway comics capable of absorbing the power of Chaos Emeralds because none of STC issues showed Knuckles use them so there are two possibilities 1-Knuckles cannot absorb the energy of the Chaos Emeralds as Sonic and Robotnik can do. 2-Knuckles is capable of absorbing the chaos energy but he doesn't want end up ike Super Sonic P. S: The Chaos Emeralds can be in stablized conditions only if they were kept in a cold place or the temple on the floating island

[@hotdawg6748]

(I still have a bad english😔)

[@thegungerbrospodcast7671]

@@TheAuron32 Not really, in the games (specifically the adventure series), the emeralds can affect the user based on whether they are feeling positive or negative emotions. For instance, Chaos when absorbing the energy from the emeralds drained all of it's negative energy and became a chaotic evil monster filled with malice and rage lashing out against the world. But Sonic is able to tap into the positive energy and transform into his Super sonic state, where he is able to control the Chaos and use it for good. Game apologist made a really good video on the topic where he went over Super sonic and his role in the games. I recommend checking it out when you have the time.

[@novelezra]

Please do a Fleetway Amy, I don't know much about the fleetway comic but that Amy is grungy and 90's as hell. Her skirt even looks like Hey Arnold's shirt (that people thought was a kilt)

[@JohnnyVector]

Great suggestion, thanks. Fleetway Amy is great. If I recall she's kind of a tech genius, a characteristic the games would later give to Tails. But yeah, I'll add that to my list.

[@novelezra]

@@JohnnyVector One thing I thought about today as well, is a video about the origin to Sonic's meme's/catchphrases. Like, I bet many people know "Gotta Go Fast" and "Way Past Cool" but dont actually know where those came from.

[@handlename88]

@@novelezra gotta go fast came from sonic x and way past cool came from aosth satam and sonic underground I believe

[@samueldixon9028]

@@JohnnyVector Fleetway Amy isn’t really a tech genius - Porker Lewis is the techie earlier on, and Tekno the Canary (Amy’s best friend) takes over later on. Amy is, however, incredibly smart and competent, a great fighter, and the team’s second in command, stepping up to lead in Sonic’s absence.

[@thefireman17492]

"to see this formally evil character living a quite life" *Yoshikage Kira wants to know your location.*

[@jirito7470]

My name is Super Sonic. I'm 25 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Green hill, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but I occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.

[@VoidVoidVoidVoidVi]

Don't worry, he gets it in Dead Man's Questions.

[@NinjaKIngAce]

I think some people just assume that Fleetway Sonic is the name of the Evil Super Sonic. I know I made that mistake when I first found out about him

[@JohnnyVector]

Interesting and understandable, Fleetway aren't even particularly well known in the UK.

[@mrbutt4eva625]

Yeah but fleetway Sonic sounds cooler than evil super sonic

[@hinatalovetonaruto]

In one of the comics fleet way super sonic came out of sonic when he tried using some red emeralds and instead of him becoming super , fleet way showed up and went on a rampage

[@NinjaKIngAce]

@@hinatalovetonaruto That wasn't Fleetway. That's from the Archie Comics

[@noaht2005]

It seems a common mistake

[@littleguystar]

I always liked this spin on things, as you could see Super Sonic in Sonic 2 going around at insane speeds, and the music if taken the wrong way is kinda menacing. It just makes sense to go with the old American backstory too! I just think it's neat that Super went from a saving grace to an unfixable issue

[@JohnnyVector]

Great point about the music. The more it plays the weirder it sounds sometimes haha

[@noaht2005]

Fleetway Super Sonic is an interesting take on the character, who understandably has a large cult following to the point where many people think of him instead when ‘fleetway sonic’ is mentioned. The character is often associated with other evil Sonics, like the ‘majin’ Sonic from CD’s sound test, and fan horror character Sonic.exe. With the character’s newfound popularity, it’s great that videos like this exist to to inform newcomers

[@dankwaifu2093]

I think Archie's evil Super Sonic was definitely a reference to StC's Super. One panel in particular feels like a pretty straight homage of that page where Super's laughing and turns back into Sonic. That Archie comic came out around the time Tekno (and Ebony) started making cameo appearances, so at least some of the writers and artists were aware of the Fleetway series.

[@JohnnyVector]

Thanks for confirming. I didn't know Tekno and Ebony make cameos, that's really cool. I'll have to check it out.

[@dankwaifu2093]

​@@JohnnyVector I'm not sure if it was this situation, also, or just the OVA, but I think Archie might've gotten in trouble doing what little they did. Amy calls Tekno by name in one panel, which would go a little beyond StC characters filling out background shots. Fleetway's in a weird legal era because I think everything that's in it is creator-owned, like how basically everything in pre-reboot Archie became off limits for similar reasons. I know Ian Flynn said he got permission from Nigel Kitching to use the Metalix, but nothing ever came of it because things would've been too complicated to sort though.

[@michaelmann7816]

@@JohnnyVector Yep. I believe there was also a background cameo of Bob Beaky, which is... a whole different ball of confusion.

[@surgeeo1406]

Even though I agree with the Hulk comparison (StC writers were actually big Marvel fans,) this Super-Sonic may also be inspired by Dragon Ball. In the very first season, Goku is feared by his partners, once they figured out he can turn to a giant gorilla, and probably killed his grandfather by accident. They end up using his transformation against Pilaf (the greatest villain in the series,) in a way that also happens in Sonic the Comic. Big difference here, Goku was not aware of his alter-ego for a really long time.

[@JohnnyVector]

Thanks, you're right, pretty similar to Goku's gorilla form

[@pickledeluxe4636]

funny enough when goku first achieves his super . he does warn gohan to leave because in his new form enhansing his rage he may even attack gohan his son, although he post battle returns to being kind and even attempts to spare the guy he fought

[@Lava_Lazy]

i guess people searched fleetway sonic so much after fnf sonic.exe v2 came out that this video got an algorithm boost

[@JohnnyVector]

Seems that way. I can't complain.

[@bofox3251]

Yes

[@Lunalite]

Super Sonic's personality does actually change a bit in the games He calms down

[@justafriendlycryptid]

He really is the embodiment of "chaos". My revitalized interest in Fleetway was due to their appearance in an FnF mod. An odd little inclusion in a mod about Sonic Creepypasta's. -His & Tails dolls songs slap.-

[@behgaming1]

Same

[@TelevisionNTheatre]

Hahahaha _-Same-_

[@seashellguy9416]

when eggman is an really bad character in the modern era of sonic but his part of an song slaps harder than sonic destroying his robots -triple trouble is an cool song-

[@TelevisionNTheatre]

@@seashellguy9416 _yeah bet_

[@noaht2005]

Nothing to be embarrassed about. One of the best made mods for that game, even if rhythm games aren’t my thing

[@kingofeurobeat9332]

Actually one of the most notable aspects of super Saiyan is that it typically makes you more aggressive. That's why you can't use the Spirit bomb while in super Saiyan because you need to have a calm mind and be pure of heart.

[@Muffled_calzone]

I always saw Fleetway Sonic and thought, ok what is happening to Sonic? I never saw him going crazy like that in games. And now I finally found out where he came from and why hes like this. Thx for this video :D

[@JohnnyVector]

No problem, glad I could help to introduce you to Fleetway Sonic

[@DarrenEllisMusic1]

This was such a great ark in the comics. Richard Elsons artwork really inspires the imagination !

[@white_mochi]

Imagine the storyline if Fleetway DIDN'T turn on Ebony. He would have become the best character, and he would still live his life normally.

[@Abcity92]

I voice him and his story continues :)

[@Abcity92]

I hope you read this! I voice Fleetway Super Sonic! He has been an overwhelming joy to voice, and has made a big impact on my life 😁 I intend to continue giving him the voice that deserves to be heard, and so far I have been able to achieve that to a degree. My dream is to be his official VA by Sega, and I'll wait as long as it takes! I may be a woman but that will never stop me, or let people say otherwise voicing him.

[@loveladii69]

Are u there yet

[@yami_yomiel]

I always thought fleetway was some sort of ""corrupted"" sonic. Because fleetway-to me- always sounded like a highway like in SA2

[@justinarzola4584]

Maybe If the comic continued sonic would control the power and become the good super sonic seen in the games.

[@ermacmacro7136]

Here's an interesting bit of trivia actually, that further strengthens the connection between (Fleetway) Super Sonic and the initial Super Saiyan. When Goku first transformed to Super Saiyan, his personality did shift to a bit more of a vicious and sadistic side. Goku essentially regressed back to the Kakarot that he was initially born to be, before he learned to control it.

[@TecTitan]

Most underrated comment It's important people know the truth

[@j.ronnygibson]

I think all that power initially drives person mad. Which is why Goku and Gohan had to train them selves to be calm in that state. And how did I not realize that a thing called chaos emerald would cause a creature to be violent?😊

[@TheBlub]

Finally I know who Fleetway SS is, I love him

[@JohnnyVector]

Here's a couple more Fleetway videos if you fancy another: - Commander Brutus -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXW3doeuotSejMk - Doctor Zachary the Echidna -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4C2l6OPnKamr7c - Tails' Adventures in the Nameless Zone -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXzQY31vl9dgj80

[@zorconix7546]

Hey fleetway sonic is in fnf vs sonic.exe cool right?

[@MegaPokeman1]

Fleetway's Super Sonic is interesting, but I think I prefer the version that Sonic X hinted at during the Metarex arc, dubbed Dark Sonic by fans. It makes more sense to me as a form separate from Super.

[@TailsClock]

The notable thing about Goku's Super form was that IT DID CHANGE HIS PERSONALITY. He wasn't fighting for fun anymore. He became cold, and menacing. This personality change eventually did wear off, but I'm still surprised that you were clueless about this huge aspect of it. having said that, it was Gohan who has more resemblance to Fleetway Super Sonic due to his anger issues when gaining a new form. But even that pales in comparison to the actual Super Sonic. His personality is so wildly different, that it does seem like they just wanted to do their own thing entirely.

[@Old_Man_Jay]

I had no idea these comics existed but the story of super sonic seems like a great one! I'm really glad you took the time to cover it. I think It's actually quite sad how it ended. He was good for years only to have to be forced to merge with sonic again. Feels bad, man.

[@justinarzola4584]

Me too, as an American I never heard of these comics before and they seemed very obscure to non British sonic fans, I'm glad they are getting some attention.

[@sohpie6767]

5:30 Ah yes my favorite pokemon, *hulk*

[@CausticCatastrophe]

powers gained from chaos manifesting like this makes WAY more sense.

[@ruchellemiller8423]

Sonic could already survive in Space

[@JohnnyVector]

Actually yeah good point, he is in space quite a lot somehow.

[@sdavion096]

@@JohnnyVector ya like the Death Egg Zone, Final Rush from Sonic Adventure 2, nearly the entirety of Asteroid Coaster, and other zones in Sonic Colors

[@juanstaroldchannel3553]

Wait. So you are telling me he can survive on fucking space,but not on water? B r u h.

[@marcxworld5708]

@@juanstaroldchannel3553 lmao it's weird

[@juanstaroldchannel3553]

@@marcxworld5708 ikr

[@vampiricpig1392]

The sonic fanbase will forever love evil Sonics

[@srstriker6420]

Especially Scourge the hedgehog?

[@MegaManNeo]

I still think Fleetway is too far away from Sonic's original characteristics when it comes to Super Sonic. But the idea is still very interesting! To me, this Fleetway Super Sonic could be what Sonic would become if he wasn't all clear in his head and lost to anger. Imagine an even more broken Shadow. Dark Super Sonic from the Sonic X anime is probably the closest we get to Fleetway here.

[@skykidgaming5622]

Fleetway super sonic will forever be one of my favourite villains in the comics

[@59rlmccormack]

Having looked at stuff related to Fleetway Sonic online, be it wikis or videos or fan stuff, I will say it is quite interesting. As for Fleetway Super Sonic being similar to The Hulk in regards to transformation, wow, I never noticed. Excellent video, mate. Take care. I’d love to see you make a video about Sally Acorn and Rally4Sally down the line, may you always be good.

[@JohnnyVector]

Thank you very much! Sally Acorn sounds like a good idea. I'm only familiar with her from the cartoon but I've started reading the Archie comics too so I might cover her when I'm done.

[@megamanx74]

This is incredible! the sonic comic makes me really want to read it. Thanks for the coverage on something I clearly overlooked.

[@Dantriecus]

Yes! Always support anyone talking about good old STC!!! Why not do an episode about Shortfuse or Captain Plunder? Or even better, Teckno?

[@JohnnyVector]

Thanks for the suggestions. A lot of people suggested Fleetway Amy so I think I'll add a bit about Tekno in that video.

[@Legoroy2]

Thank you for this revisiting of a classic character. If you haven’t already, Captain Plunder and his crew were always an interesting time.

[@hairyrusticpal3637]

It's surreal seeing these comics again, I got bought them at the time and remember how much I adored the supersonic art and the Sidewinder gang in particular (For some reason the one where's he's holding a cup of tea next to the fire really stuck with me). No wonder i remember the art is just incredible

[@holloworacle3140]

Hello I'm a casual fnf dude wanting to know about this Sick looking dude

[@GeekedOutNeckbeard]

Now I WISH they continued into the Sonic Adventure 2 Battle storyline! Imagine how EVIL Shadow would look if they went down that path still! It would be amazing to see

[@__-be1gk]

This is the single time in the entirety of the Sonic franchise that they Chaos Emeralds had any association with actual chaos whatsoever

[@alexander2019.]

Ah excellent video.I was waiting for this since the sonic iceberg when they were talking about super sonic being it’s own entity

[@JohnnyVector]

Awesome, thank you

[@alexander2019.]

Now that you mentioned sonic and dragon ball I never really thought about it but sonic counter part would be goku as the protagonist.Shadow as vegeta as the villain who becomes hero .Silver being the time traveler who would be trunks.

[@antyep]

Which is a problem because Sega is self aware of this and is trying to make Shadow like Vegeta nowadays.

[@Fanatic_Foremem]

@@antyep Metals more of the vegeta anyways, shadows more like piccolo or Hit.

[@antyep]

@@Fanatic_Foremem I'm pretty sure that people consider Knuckles as Piccolo. Although these days, he's more like Yamcha. Also, Metal doesn't have that 'I'll do things my way' edgelord vibe, considering his programming makes him serve Eggman. Vegeta serves no one!

[@Fanatic_Foremem]

@@antyep yeah and how well has that worked out, Heroes, free riders, clearly something was up in forces since eggman needed to use a copy. Metal still does what he wants even under mind control,seems like he's VERY much vegeta.

[@antyep]

@@Fanatic_Foremem not unless you consider IDW canon where he was incredibly loyal to Eggman.

[@Joseph_Drew_III]

Fleetway Sonic seems a lot closer to Ultimate Universe Hulk than the jade giant we actually care about.

[@BirchMonkey857]

S&K was the first appearance of the space and flight abilities. There are a couple of mentions, notably the first appearances of SSJ1 and SSJ2, as well as Legendary Super Saiyans like Broly or Kale (potentially due to the seemingly demonic elements of the Legendary forms) that imply that the SSJ forms may amplify emotions to the point of the wielder's decisions being affected.

[@emitrioff]

I've read it like 8/10 months ago and while reading it I was so amazed and invested in the comic because it brings super sonic into a more dark tone :)

[@stevolution7833]

Loved reading the Running Wild storyline back when I was a teenager, Richard Elson's fantastic artwork really sells it.

[@allowcoy0413]

POV: You played the Sonic.exe 2.0 mod and didn’t know who this character is. I already knew, but thought this would be fun to watch anyway.

[@tanjanesic309]

hahahhaa.... how did you know?

[@sanse4619]

same

[@redstreak9430]

Same

[@mugglymoo]

I didn't know who he was, but I still felt like I recognized him from somewhere

[@WebstersYouTube]

Grew up with the Fleetway books and this version of Super Sonic. I didn't really enjoy the character after issue 100, truth be told. It felt like Kitching wrote himself into a corner and, instead of a proper showdown, we got a deus ex machina depowering. There were a good 20 issues or so of build up to a fight in issue 100 and it's just cast aside in favour of showing the gang overthrowing Robotnik.

[@JohnnyVector]

Thanks for the comment. From what I've read it does seem like the whole amnesia thing was done because the writers had no idea what to do with SS. I can see how some wouldn't be happy with how things turned out.

[@CraftyArts]

thanks for this helped in my own video on Sonic The Hedgehog, never knew there was this much more interesting take on Super sonic

[@L30nGD]

Super sonic in games: I save my friends from being killed Super sonic in comics: i kill my friends

[@crudknight]

This is the closest well get to a Canon sonic.exe

[@viniciuspaiva3578]

It suddenly makes sense for Super Sonic to be evil! The Chaos Emeralds aren’t named that for nothing

[@ADurning87]

Thank you for this video. I loved this comic arc and it was beautiful ☺️❤️🌎🙏

[@JohnnyVector]

Awesome, glad you enjoyed it

[@veggietablz]

Rewatched this never gets old

[@astro6683]

Id like to know more about Johnny Lightfoot, and the fall of STC :O

[@JohnnyVector]

Nice suggestion, thanks. As a fellow Johnny I have a soft spot for Lightfoot.

[@open_420]

10 out of fucking 10 youre a beast of a youtuber thank you so much for putting in the effort man !!

[@JohnnyVector]

Thank you for the high praise

[@XenonSlayer]

the two frames in The Final Horizon with crazy Super Sonic will fuel fan theories for years to come!

[@GSTE_]

I never looked into the actual story behind evil super sonic, but the drawing design stood out to me as a really good design.

[@HHog]

11:51 Ooh, that page! I actually bought the original master of this at a Summer of Sonic convention, some years ago.

[@JohnnyVector]

That's awesome. I love Super's innocent face in that one.

[@SonicTheComic]

Good stuff!

[@JohnnyVector]

Thanks, big fan of your stuff as well

[@n.d.r.g4724]

randomly found this in recommendation here just to read comments

[@travelerluke5748]

Ya know? In the sonic 2 movie.. Knuckles hints that sonic is a different person in his super form...

[@TwoTailedSponge]

Hope you cover Amy and Tails in both Fleetway and the games. 💖🧡

[@JohnnyVector]

A few people have mentioned Fleetway Amy so that one is quite high on the to-do list.

[@michaelp545]

The Fleetway Super Sonic is an interesting character. I would like a video on Fleetway Amy next.

[@JohnnyVector]

Thanks! A lot of people want Fleetway Amy so she is coming up soon

[@michaelp545]

@@JohnnyVector Looking forward to it!

[@GinraiPrime666]

Absolutely awesome video man!!! As a fellow UK Sonic fan I too grew up with the Fleetway Sonic The Comic stories aswell, Super Sonic in particular has always been a very memorable character of the run! I would love to see you do videos for Shortfuse the Cybernik or Commander Brutus at some point! Keep up the awesome work man!!!

[@GinraiPrime666]

Just discovered you already have, awesome!!! Keep up the awesome work man!!!

[@masterprick1]

Haven't seen a lot of Fleetway, but from the little I have seen it always felt more down to earth when compared to the Archie comics.

[@Dan200]

Am I the only one who finds it strange this video makes a point about Super Sonic being suspiciously similar to The Incredible Hulk, but doesn't once mention that both are actually based on Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde

[@Exxorian]

I used to read this comic so much when I was growing up! You could cover the Metallix. I remember what they looked like but not really what their deal was?

[@JohnnyVector]

Great idea, thanks. I always loved Metallix as well.

[@kippkeaton1966]

I think it's really interesting how Sonic Movie 2 almost seems to reference it for a split second!

[@themostepicgamer1647]

I never knew about Super Sonic going good for a while or refusing with Super Sonic well actually I really didn’t know anything about him except that he was evil so thank you for educating me about this character

[@asierx7047]

Hey guys guess why this video blew up Yea the same reason why Lost Silver and Hypno's lullaby

[@khalilnevels8926]

I thought fleetway was kind of simular to broly in the Z movie

[@bitterman7258]

love your vids

[@JohnnyVector]

Thanks a lot!

[@deanmark3636]

I would love a story where Fleetway Sonic appears during a battle with Eggman and starts a allout war against the rest of the Sonic cast battling not just all of Eggmans bots but also his regular forms friends which leads to a scene where Fleetway advances towards the beaten Eggman before Eggman uses his greatest creation Metal SOnic to attack Fleetway and then Knuckles knocks Super Sonic out

[@elwiito8242]

I guess that fleetway sonic may become more popular for having his own song on the mod for the rythym game called Friday night funkin called VS Sonic.exe for having his own song on the mod.

[@cyberOIO]

If you were alive when sonic was actually good, there wasn't a thing such as "Viral games". And no, FNF doesn't contribute to his popularity.

[@SweetSmore68]

@@cyberOIO yes, it does, many people including me became to know about him because of the mod, and yes, viral games did exist, mario and sonic were examples of that, just because something became popular because a homage to it was made in a ´´viral game´´, doesnt mean you need to hate on everyone and ruin everything.

[@cyberOIO]

@@SweetSmore68 I wasn't hating, maybe for you it did.

[@nahfamyouaint]

@@cyberOIO fnf isn't even a game, it's unfinished (not saying you said that, just telling you)

[@Ghostguy693]

I recall reading some stuff from StC Online. Super Sonic was implied to be the one destroying Silver's future instead of Iblis (although that was still Silver's name for SS) and I believe Silver had come into conflict with Sonic by mistaking him for his counterpart (although I may be misrembering that). Hyper Sonic was also featured, being more like its original counterpart (as Sonic had absorbed a fountain of _pure_ Chaos energy and so wasn't corrupted by it). Although it is worth noting that Amy immediately disputed the name of Hyper Sonic due to him being, in her own words, "just Sonic!" To my knowledge however he's only appeared once so far, albeit in a significant role, destroying a bunch of Drakon ships (along with much of their tech being destroyed by a virus Robotnik had installed), reconnecting Miracle Planet and Mobius and towing Drak, home of the Drakons, back to its usual position and away from Mobius.

[@Ghostguy693]

According to the wiki, Super Sonic also makes a couple more appearances, once when Sonic transforms while fighting Shadow, and again when it's revealed that Ebony kept a bottle of some of SS's essence, which Sonic accidentally opens, causing him to transform. One Dexter "Codex" Bagstille made an attempt to bring out Super Sonic and control him with a collar capable of draining his Chaos energy, only for it to completely fail. The wiki isn't too clear on how it happens but somehow Super Sonic manages to reseparate from Sonic (or at least I believe so?) and drain the Chaos energy from the Omni-Viewer. It's heavily implied that this is connected to his appearance as "Iblis". He later teams up with Robotnik to attempt to destroy Sonic with their combined power, only to inevitably betray him. Porker subdues him by siphoning his Chaos energy. The Wiki claims he's "killed" by it but given his reappearance as Iblis I find that unlikely.

[@pizzatime2996]

Man that would’ve been a WAY better storyline in my opinion Silver wants to desperately get rid of sonic to save his future due to fleetway nearly destroying the whole dimension, which would make sense considering silver might have seen the famous super sonic…but sonic and co would have to travel forward in time to realize the threat and learn how to prevent it……what have I written?

[@pizzatime2996]

WHY DO I WANT TO WRITE MORE OF THIS

[@oliverpascoe9679]

I read sonic the comics growing up and I remember there was this one story line where sonic and maybe some of the freedom fighters went to a parallel universe and the sonic there was an evil dictator. The way they toppled him was by making the evil sonic turn into super sonic, who was 'mellow yellow' and wanted to be a kind ruler instead, suggesting the super transformation has a reverse moral alignment to the original.

[@bmc4857]

There has to be a reason behind Sonic not losing control when turning into his super form. Maybe the ones who nourished Super Sonic could have changed his fate when they combined Super Sonic back with Sonic himself giving Sonic more control over his inner self.

[@NobamaDroneStrike]

Thanks for the cool facts about Fleetway Sonic I understand now since I didn’t understand what was going on in the FNF mod for VS Sonic.exe

[@ToaArcan]

Honestly, in some ways, Super Sonic's personality feels almost like a drama-preserving handicap put on the form. Adaptations generally don't include the whole "Needs to consume a shit-ton of rings to function" thing as a trait of Super form... and to be fair, neither do the games when cutscenes are concerned. Even as early as Sonic 2, Sonic is able to transform after going through the totally-ringless Death Egg Zone, and later on in Sonic Advance, he spends about a week just flying around in space- Or maybe it just took him that long to get back from the moon? Even at 25000mph, that's a three-day trip. Either way, Super Sonic being a gas-guzzler doesn't appear to be canon in the games themselves, and definitely isn't in the cartoons and comics. With that in mind, it raises the question of "Why doesn't Sonic use his Super form... well, as much as anyone playing the classic-style games will on their playthrough?" The Doylist answer is, of course, "Because then there wouldn't be a story", but that doesn't mean we don't need a Watsonian, internal explanation. Lack of access to the Emeralds can be an answer, true, but adaptations tend to like it when Sonic can visit Knuckles any day of the week, and Knuckles spends basically all his time sitting in front of a giant Chaos Emerald that can also turn people Super. StC provides that. Sonic can't solve all of his problems by turning into an invincible golden god on the regular because said invincible golden god wants to murder his friends, and isn't even guaranteed to attack the villains first. It's not the _cleanest_ justification, and it does vastly inhibit the viability of the form even for situation that warrant its use, but it works. And it prevents people asking the question of "Seriously, the Master Emerald is right there, why don't you just turn into Super Sonic, blow the Death Egg of the sky, and have your girlfriend restored to flesh and blood by sunset?" Also, he's just the best version of a superpowered evil side for Sonic himself. Darkspine is cool but really difficult to work in (what with being fuelled by less than half of a set of macguffins that only exist in a book), and Dark Super is just... boring.

[@CammieRacing]

I feel like the second Sonic Movie hinted at this evil supersonic at the end with Knuckles warning them ''He is no longer the hedgehog you knew''.

[@alexknj1]

What's interesting is that originally, Super Sayian *was* an evil transformation that turned Goku cold and sadistic, so that was probably another inspiration.

[@theblizzard8735]

Sonic and the gang should be glad that they didn't have to face hyper

[@JohnnyVector]

Haha yeah, Fleetway Hyper Sonic would be pretty insane

[@theblizzard8735]

Thx for the pin BTW

[@Nemophilist850]

The gap between Fleetway's best artwork and worst artwork was gigantic.

[@Questionable_Gabe]

Bro I was sleep to this and animated a whole saga thru this

[@thechewster9826]

Sonic characters from the games: you have freed us! Fleetway sonic: oh i wouldn’t say “freed”. More like “under new management”

[@gregheffley8880]

*fnf flash backs* oh no

[@jordy_de-zee]

you have a mod too

[@minelord8492]

Social expirement time. This is the guy from Friday night funkin.

[@gamingwithandy1]

*anger intensifies*

[@Hanz_M]

>:'((((((((((((((((( DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD'X

[@Pan-mt7bc]

It would be really cool if super was an "Superpowered evil side", would add an layer of caution or danger

[@PixelProGAMINGYt]

Amazing

[@LoadingError0]

as someone encountering Fleetway Sonic for the first time in the friday night funkin' vs. Sonic.exe mod (yeah, i'm that guy), this helped a lot. thanks!

[@graemehutton2433]

StC was the Sonic canon of my childhood! Awesome characters like Shortfuse, Techno and Jonny Lightfoot would make great videos. Also did Turbo ever come back? I can only remember him in one story.

[@minimalbstolerance8113]

He appears in a couple of the online fan comics.

[@OofinTime]

I loved the running wild fandub

[@unknownuser0813]

Well classic=Fleetway Sonic Modern=Dark Sonic

[@00T398]

I find it funny how people laugh at the concept of a “Sonic.EXE” when characters like Fleetway Super Sonic and Metal Sonic are walking examples of an evil Sonic done right.

[@tamby_teeze]

hmm I wonder want specific event could have caused this video to be recommended to me now. what a mystery.

[@videogamahagain]

Eh, I doubt it, yt reccomemdatioms are weird, almost as weird as Friday night funkin's fanbase

[@sci-io]

Wechina is one that is barely in the comments, and one that I'm looking forward to!

[@JohnnyVector]

Thanks, I'll keep Wechnia on my list for sure

[@GIJOEFAN-ys8gp]

Maybe we can get an evil Super Sonic in the upcoming Sonic Prime a la Fleetway. The show is about the multiverse so it’s possible.

[@JohnnyVector]

I can definitely see an idea like that happening, though not quite as evil as Fleetway Super Sonic I imagine.