24 Hour Party People - John Simm (New Order - Deleted Scene)

John Simm stars as Bernard (Barney) Sumner, singer and founding member of Joy Division and New Order.
Blown away by an unknown local band called the Sex Pistols, TV personality Tony Wilson (Steve Coogan) is inspired to invent a uniquely anarchic record label. Soon he's promoting everyone from New Order to Happy Mondays on his newly formed Factory Records...and partying like a rock star.
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[@stevebarnes8368]

John Simms really had Bernard Sumner’s mannerisms down to an art, didn’t he? The head tilt and the way he scrunches up when saying “singer.” Great casting all around. Paddy Considine is always great

[@alastairhilton4658]

OMFG that's me walking past at 31 seconds.. I remember seeing them filming.. Buzzin

[@mbuchart2927]

I love Tony Wilson's line, "That's like even more ― you know, that's an even more Nazi name than Joy Division."

[@hamburgerhelperflick]

It's hilarious, especially the way Steve Coogan delivers it.

[@mickdevlin]

John Simms really gets the accent right. It's lovely to see how ramshackle and downhome everything really was back then. Joy Division are talked about by my kids (and even grand-kids). New Order are....well. The global powerhouse started in bloody Broughton.

[@maie-no9ck]

I could watch John Simm every day.

[@sirfizz6518]

New Order fans gotta love the performances here, especially from Simm, whose portrayal of Bernard just might outshine Coogan's Tony...

[@benmeehan1111]

The end of the Second World War was closer in time to when this scene was meant to have happened than today

[@user-lb4bz8tu2k]

Shit you're right 😦

[@theculturedthug6609]

When did this take place 79 or 80?

[@benmeehan1111]

@@theculturedthug6609 80 methinks, given this is after Ian’s death

[@Dani-El.]

Even closer now.

[@acefaces]

This movie came out over 20 years ago and this scene took place about 20 years before the movie. 😢

[@charlespage8692]

JD and NO are so important to me as a Person. Thank God for this Movie. Thank God for JD/NO!

[@user-lf3jz1iq5c]

he acts just like Bernard omg ( except the look Barney had black hair at that time)

[@pyrtwistPyrtwistWorldInMotion]

Paddy looks like Gretton.

[@dogmart]

John Simm plays Bernard to a tee: as noted already, he nails Bernard's mannerisms and way he delivers his speech. He should have been cast in Corbijn's Control film too--the actor who played Bernard in that film sucked.

[@VuotoPneumaNN]

Control sucked as a whole.

[@BrandonJFlores]

Well considering how irrelevant Bernard along with the band in control was I don't think it mattered that much

[@VuotoPneumaNN]

@Mike even as a film about Ian and Debbie, it really fails to convey any real emotions. The dialogue is stiff and the acting is really dull (I suspect it's a matter of Corbjin being pretty inexperienced in that field).

[@s1050]

I think he was way too sober for Barney. Look at every interview with Barney in the 80s he’s off his face most of the time

[@FunOnABun1]

I love this scene but get why they wouldn't keep it in the film. It does an excellent job of showing how horrible of and idea New Order was on paper, and how surprising their success must have seemed.

[@jacksdjfam]

Its a great scene but id guess it was simply down to timing. Its quite a long scene to add to the overall run time

[@sammencia7945]

They were, obviously, a gutted band for 2 and half years until Temptation. But they didn't give up. Then they went on an epic tear. Temptation>Blue Monday>Confusion all in 9 months. God, what an awesome time and I got to play each one as they came out in the clubs.

[@lordofmemes6535]

Idk m8, I loved Movement

[@350125GOW]

and PC&L in 83.

[@Kkidzz]

@@350125GOW Album is momentous.

[@DSCH4]

"I think you know kinda Ian would have kinda liked it." "Ian would definitely have liked it. I agree with that." LOL

[@gdogg3710]

I’m guessing, but the time travelling Metrolink, as well as modern buses and cars going by is probably why it got cut. Which is a shame as it’s a good scene and also one of the more peak accidental Partridge moments in the film: “Lynn, you do know that sounds even more Nazi than Joy Division, don’t you?”

[@Dani-El.]

They could have just cut to a different angle for those 3 seconds when the tram goes past, instead of scrapping the whole scene. The buses/cars aren't as obvious, but there are ways of dealing with that also.

[@Djlullaby22]

This is not how it happened though, they already called themselves New Order before including Gillian. But it was a short period of time.

[@PDXNTV]

24 Hour Party People wasn't trying to be a documentary.

[@Nic01224]

I wish they'd left this scene in.

[@charlespage8692]

Uggghhh. Yep.

[@joliecide]

no one in this movie physically looks like the person they're playing, but ya I agree, they've got the characters down pat

[@alexwalton593]

girl playing gillian is pretty perfect

[@JacksonWithrow82]

To me that's the measure of a great impersonation. Having someone matching the "relative" looks (blonde, slim, etc) and then capture the essence of their mannerisms, speech, their ticks/quirks etc all without spoofing. I remember that movie "Looper" and I couldn't stand it. They put a prosthetic lower lip on Joseph Gordon Levitt so he would look MORE like a young Bruce Willis. It was so distracting. They should've just left him alone and worked on capturing the persona. Honestly, Rob Lowe did a great Robert Wagner in Austin Powers without even being asked lol

[@theculturedthug6609]

I thought the guy who played Shaun Ryder was had him and his mannerisms down to a tee.

[@amintanzarian]

why did they deleted this scene? that's a fantastic scene.

[@SW-fn7cl]

Probably the tram (metro) going by, wasn't there then lol

[@theculturedthug6609]

Time.

[@Dani-El.]

@@SW-fn7cl I'm sure they could have cut to a different camera angle for that 3 seconds when the tram goes past. Not really a hard fix is it?

[@MrSyrett]

Possibly deleted because of the tram in the background - which weren’t introduced in Manchester until the early 90s. Some ten years after this conversation took place

[@swag-a-dellaman6555]

The Master.

[@davidtrz]

Oui grande ressemblance avec Gillian. C'est vrai que le film montre pratiquement Gillian.

[@bungle3912]

That’s actually Gillian, isn’t it? That’s weird they used the real person.

[@neonatalpenguin]

According to IMDB, it's someone called Anna Tyborczyk. Gillian would have been 40-ish when this was made, so could have concievably played herself.

[@notdrivingaminimetro]

metrolink

[@Superking.Menthol]

A small point, didn't know the MetroLink was running in 1980 haha.

[@davidsomerset]

Didn't you notice? It's a surreal film. Tony mentions stuff that happens in the future. He sees God at one point. Real life people pop up in the same secens as their onscreen counterparts. Metrolink is entirely in keeping with the tone of the film.

[@Dani-El.]

They should have left this scene in the film.

[@cameronsharp2022]

2:08 is that Morgan from TWD

[@Gabrielarbizazuluaga]

the walking dead?

[@SW-fn7cl]

Yep

[@theculturedthug6609]

It is, Good actor Lenny James.

[@anthonyaylmer1704]

Metrolink going past in the back 1980 I don't think so.

[@SW-fn7cl]

Lol prob why they cut the scene

[@liviaasr]

New Order were Joy Division

[@Gabrielarbizazuluaga]

not without ian...

[@theculturedthug6609]

They said they would have went this way and made the same music even if Ian was alive which I doubt.

[@liviaasr]

@@Gabrielarbizazuluaga were

[@steampunkster2023]

So many bad investment decisions in this movie. 😅 And the people carried the cross for those decisions are the artists like New Order.

[@RickSanchez-ee2yv]

Such an awkward scene. God damn.

[@no15minutecities]

No trams in Manchester in the early 80s sorry............

[@ilikebananassometimes3608]

Shit scene (not) from a shit film. Did they cut this because everyone pointed out there's a fucking tram in the background?