I watch too many John T videos and can’t stop. Thanks for feeding this NFGs addiction.
@JohnTYoung Жыл бұрын
Theres no such thing as too many.....
@owenlushadv3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another really informal vid! For a guy like me that has had next to no mechanical experience, and not really mechanically minded, you've definitely made it easy to work on my 450L! and inspired the confidence to do so!
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
Ya! Get in there and wrench on stuff! What’s the worst that could happen?
@leftystrat623 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It helps instill confidence for those of us on the fence weather we should try this ourselves. cheers
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome! What's the worst that could happen.
@bobsmyth67063 жыл бұрын
Really good video, thanks for the thorough and relaxed pace. Cheers
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
By relaxed pace you mean "took forever to get to the point"? LOL.
@olliechristopher4673 жыл бұрын
Hi there John, I change the front as they hook and then the front sprocket and chain 2nd time around. I run Ironman rear sprockets and have yet to have one wear out. If you go with TM sliders and blocks they are also long life.
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
I'll give them a try next. I wanted to use the TM sliders (and blocks now) but darned if I could find them when I ordered this stuff. Again, next time around I'll but sure to switch. Thanks for the advice.
@DadsDomain3 жыл бұрын
Yes a chain video! You weren't kidding were you?! 😂 My brother in law is putting on a new setup this winter as well and my chain is getting pretty stretched so I might be right there with him. I think I'm going to stick with stock gearing for now though.
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
The stock gearing works great. The only reason I changed it was because my bike has put on significant weight over the last two years. The 52T was perfect. The 53 is a bit much. And the stock chain really is garbage. Thanks for watching my put a new chain on my bike!
@DadsDomain3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnTYoung Hey it’s always my pleasure. Supersprox is what I had on my old 06 450R and I loved it. I will be using it again.
@yu-weiyang79513 жыл бұрын
Thank You for the detail information and also safety reminder at the end, which some time I do forget.
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
Don't we all? 😬
@gumbysenduro65463 жыл бұрын
Awesome, well laid step by step vid , cant really fault it you covered it all, cheers from the land down under :)
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@carni63193 жыл бұрын
You are one of the very few KZbinrs that can put out an hour long video and keep my complete attention. That my friend is very impressive. Would you please buy a DR650 and go through the entire bike on video? Thanks John
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I can't even keep my own attention more than 30 seconds squirrel!
@evanmacleod33303 жыл бұрын
Another fantastically helpful vid! Thanks for uploading!
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in!
@johnpagejr.76283 жыл бұрын
Thank you John that was very helpful. I am in the process of changing two chains one on a Honda NC700X with 16 thousand miles on it and a Suzuki DRZ400S with about 5 thousand on it. The Suzuki I just bought used. Being also a bicycle mechanic you can check a 520 chain buy measuring from one pin center to the 21 pin center and it should be exactly 12" if it is longer than that the chain is stretched. also if the chain can be pushed sideways till it hits the tire it also may be stretched and should be replace. all though this second method of checking the chain may not be accurate if you are running and oversized tire. Thanks again the part about the rollers and chain guide was a little bit cloudy as to replacement and how to check wheel and chain alignment was also helpful.
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you got something out of it, and thanks for the 21 pin 12" check. I did not know that.
@johnpagejr.76283 жыл бұрын
@@JohnTYoung on that subject I have to say I was a little bit amiss about the measurement if it meets or exceeds 12.6"or 319 mm it is considered stretched out and should be replaced. I got this info out of my Clymer manual for my DRZ400S. For bicycle Chains it is 12".
@MrCrs9113 жыл бұрын
Great video, I greatly appreciate the specifics for the 450L.
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jimsnider39713 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! Looking forward to watching all of them now!!
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@craigrt3 жыл бұрын
Great video John. Giving me inspiration and confidence to get my hands dirty.
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Craig! Ya, go get dirty!
@netmagi2 жыл бұрын
thx, just used this to see how to change the chain slider
@JohnTYoung2 жыл бұрын
I’m here for you.
@RomulusReemus11 ай бұрын
Great vid. From my road biking days, can you not use the "outer" part of the chain brake tool to squeeze on the master link plate, as opposed to pliers/vise grips?
@JohnTYoung11 ай бұрын
If I'm reading you right.... the pin and the hole still line up with the pin.
@dylanfromoz4681 Жыл бұрын
John, you are an absolute champion! As a CRF450L owner I love your vids. Finally took the plunge and got a 53 tooth rear sprocket. Chain guide causing issues due to bigger diameter sprocket. You mentioned this in your video. How did you solve it though? Or just let it chop a new path in the plastic? Once again, love your vids!!!
@JohnTYoung Жыл бұрын
I let it cut it's way down. If you do that keep a close eye on your slack! Thanks Dylan.
@jsned25023 жыл бұрын
Love the videos, and have ridden many of the passes in Colorado. I have the 450L and like the bike. What would take to make me love it is a real 6th gear. Somebody needs to figure out how to change out the 6th gear in the bike to a "true overdrive gear" The way the bike is stock it just sucks buzzing down the highway at barely over 50 with the bike just wringing its neck. I would like to be able to run a little over 60 at the same RPM the bike stock runs at about 52 -53. Sprocket can help but I still do a fair amount of single track and its already a little to tall stock for that. Keep the videos coming. Maybe get together next year for some riding.
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
With a 52T rear sprocket, at 60 MPH, it's at6000 RPMs. I haven't had any problem with that at all. And it has tons of pull left for passing those slow pokes doing 59. If you can match the RPMS just a little you can rid of the resonance and it glides along like a Africa Twin. Thanks for the observations!
@andrewhindle61163 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I've often wondered how tight you pull the chain when measuring chain slack and you've answered that. I've got a tip for getting the side plate back on the chain link. Get a nut that fits over the pin and put it between the plate and your pliers and will allow the plate to seat way easy, still do one pin some and then the other of course. Another tip, smear a dab of siicone sealant over the link clip once on to help stop anything dislodging it while riding. Can you do another vid and rivet the link together? I'd like to see that. Keep up the good work and happy travels.
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andrew. And thanks for the tips! I could do another vid with the rivet links... can you wait another 10000 miles for this chain to wear out or should I just buy a master link?
@andrewhindle61163 жыл бұрын
@@JohnTYoung Considering that you put on miles exponentially quicker than me, I'll probably be still on the original chain when you do another so could wait until then....but if you want to do a vid earlier I wouldn't say no. Do you have a personal preference between clip and rivet link? I've not had issues with clip but have read that the rivet is stronger, but is it harder to put on?
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewhindle6116 rivets are generally stronger and less likely to come off. Clips take no special tools to install. So..... I'll see if I can find the budget for a link and rivet tool, just for you. But it's winter so I ay have to shovel the bike out to do it. LOL
@andrewhindle61163 жыл бұрын
@@JohnTYoung Cool, in more ways than one I guess. Don't have that issue here in Aussie land LOL but I have managed to go riding in snow. Look forward to seeing snow vid and rivet one LOL.
@scottmiller45163 жыл бұрын
Thanks John, your like the shop teacher here. I always added a very small dab of silicone adhesive to the outside master link retaining clip as insurance. Shake your head if you know what I mean. :)
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! That's an idea. I think I'd scrub it off when I'd go to clean my chain though.
@67mooncat3 жыл бұрын
Very informative tutorial...many thanks.
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@elvispusley3515 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done. What tires are you running specifically the rear? I am waiting on my AIM ECU, should be here tomorrow and it’s pouring here in WA. I’m doing a little maintenance. Thanks for all the vids on the RL
@JohnTYoung Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Elvis. I usually run the Motoz RallZ on the back.
@blixxy13203 жыл бұрын
A Dremel also works really nice on those master links if you have one
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea.
@gershomberg54083 жыл бұрын
Heading south next month and this was just the video I needed. 3,700+ miles on the new 450l since I bought in April and have run out of adjustment room. Not sure what rear sprocket to buy and curious if you noticed much difference with the new one you put on since you added a few teeth? I’ve been riding around the northwest and on the WA BDR, but going down to the Baja 1000 to do some scouting. Bike will be on my new “racknroll” I got from Australia last week hooked up to the back of the Subaru ascent, so testing that out as well. Timely video, thanks! P.s. you can tell your doing a good job because of how many ads keep popping up...
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I'm glad it helped at least a little. The stock chain on my bike was shot when I changed it. I ran it a bit too long. I'm OK with the 53 tooth, tho the 52 was a little more what I was after, keeping in mind that a lot of times my bike is way overloaded. With no extra weight, the stock 51T was just fine. Those carriers are nice but weeeee $$$$$$$$!
@user-iv4uw5rl3j5 ай бұрын
Great videos. What chain lube, if any do you use?
@JohnTYoung5 ай бұрын
WD40, gear oil, diesel… just keep it clean.
@traviswalker-restrepo3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome
@ralaurenzi3 жыл бұрын
Heard you mentioned you raced ?? MotoX or Enduro ?? I did 5 years of MotoX 70' to 75' when suspensions where only 3 - 31/2 " (ouch) . Can't wait to get a 450l ! From Rick ..... one of your Pikes Peak front range fans .
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
I road raced in the mid-90s. WERA and AMA on the East Coast. Ancient history. SuperMoto was just starting back then.
@EricBanner5713 жыл бұрын
If you change the front sprocket just as it starts to hook, the chain and rear sprocket will last twice as long providing that you clean and oil the chain on a regular basis.
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
Well, I got a good 10,000 miles out of the chain and a rock did the rear sprocket in for me, but I see what you're sayin'.
@ssmith9543 жыл бұрын
Very useful, many thanks! On these kind of high-mileage-usage enduro bikes, some users seem to favour changing the rear wheel for one with a cush hub, in order to reduce stress and wear on the countershaft/drivetrain. It's an expensive modification, so would be interested to know your thoughts on this -- is it something you've considered for your CRF?
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
I have. There's a company in Australia (of course) that makes one. But I just got 10,000 miles out of a dirt bike drive train with 0 issues, so.....
@ssmith9543 жыл бұрын
@@JohnTYoung thanks and yes, ultimately the real proof is in real-world use. I would suspect that the wear and tear inflicted by your kind of riding -- which like mine looks be be more slow-and-steady-adventuring rather than hardcore Baja antics -- plus the knobbies and dirt bias of your riding probably mean you're operating well within normal wear and tear.
@grant317813 жыл бұрын
I have that same chain breaker. I managed to chip the end of the pin off.
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
Oops! Still works tho, right?
@grant317813 жыл бұрын
@@JohnTYoung It does. The pin was off just a tad from center and chipped the side.
@billydenman25863 жыл бұрын
Hi John I love your videos I have a 450l myself ☺️ great bike. I live in Australia and i am just wondering how much power and top speed you get out of yours? I feel like mine is governed and it revs out at about 120 kmh which I feel like isn't much, it bogs like a 2 stroke when you want the power and it's some what inconvenient at times. I have an FMF aftermarket exhaust and a vortex ecu but it's just not go happy you know. Thanks billy ☺️
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Billy. Without looking at the manual the rev limiter kicks in at about 10,000 rpm. Plenty for a single cylinder, but feels too soon if you’re used to a twin. Yes, the 450L tops out at about 90 MPH unless you start modifying it.
@andrewnettleton56512 жыл бұрын
Hi John Roughly how many km you getting before chaging front and rear chain sliders Great videos mate
@JohnTYoung2 жыл бұрын
If you keep them clean and aren’t riding in the mud all the time … couple thousand.
@derekrobertson92903 жыл бұрын
I notice that you have Sealsavers on the front forks, I too have obtained a pair but find that the plastic fork guards rub on the top edge of the savers and will cause damage over a short time. How have you dealt with that issue, I am considering a heat gun to modify guards maybe. Cheers.
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
Still fighting with them. I have yet to find an easy way to prevent the guard from running thru the seal savers. I guess I'll have to try the hard way.
@codyscott77542 жыл бұрын
Any idea if that chain will work on the stock sprocket? Wasn’t sure sense it had that rubber around it..
@JohnTYoung2 жыл бұрын
The chain is a standard size as is the sprocket. The rubber just dampens the vibrations of the chain engaging the sprocket to quiet it down a bit.
@codyscott77542 жыл бұрын
@@JohnTYoung okay thanks man
@ivan42993 жыл бұрын
Hi John, have you considered one of those countershaft spacers (fasway for example) to avoid the chain rubbing on the case?. I am about to change the sprockets and chain and am a bit hesitant whether or not it is a good idea to put it.
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
Nope. Once the little aluminum nub rubs off, no more rubbing. And the sprockets stay aligned. But it sounds like and interesting idea.
@ivan42993 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I read some people use it for the Crf's. In any case , thanks for your feedback and congrats for this nice youtube channel 👊✊
@cartyross86033 жыл бұрын
Hey John. My 450l has a bunch of what I call "John Mods" and I love riding this machine. How much difference did you see off road when you dropped to a 52 tooth sprocket?
@cartyross86033 жыл бұрын
Correction, went up to a 52 tooth
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
In slow stuff, I thought it made a huge difference. On the street it runs a little high in the RPMs.
@erreyth3 жыл бұрын
Have you heard about next installment of CRF450L 2021. Which is CRF450RL, have you taken a look at it? Here I'm hoping to order one in Sweden.
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
The RL is almost identical to the L. DIfferent graphics (it's all red now) and a supposedly smoothed out throttle. Other than those two things it's the same bike. I do like the all red color scheme.
@erreyth3 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid that some parts from crf450L won't fit, as the frame is somewhat narrower. If I'm not mistaken, clutch is hydraulic? I've only been able to gather little info about it from US magazines.
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
@@erreyth I haven't heard or read any of that. Their website only lists the changes I mentioned above, plus hand guards.
@craigrt3 жыл бұрын
Was it my imagination or did those state stickers come and go??
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
I had to reshoot part of the video. Good eye!
@noone37343 жыл бұрын
I really want to know how it goes with the 53t sprocket.
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
So far it's OK. It is definitely a bit much sometimes, but when the terrain gets tight and technical the extra torque comes in handy. However - If you're running a stock ECU or have not gotten used to the twitchy throttle the 53T sprocket will compound that problem.
@Brightwoodphotos3 жыл бұрын
Just put on the new chain and I’m getting a Rubbing noise near the front sprocket. Do you think it’s that wear nub you were talking about?
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
I would imagine, though of course, I can't know. The only way to be sure us to pull it off and check.
@donniecollins39163 жыл бұрын
The super Sprocket 53 tooth stealth did you order for an 450 X did you order it for an 450L model? Ty
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
For the life of me I don't remember. I have yet to find an X part that won't fit the L, however.
@waferzworld Жыл бұрын
Does this type of master link hold up on the road? This is all I’ve ever used, never had one fall off. I thought I saw someone mention it falling off
@JohnTYoung Жыл бұрын
Mine fall off all the time.
@waferzworld Жыл бұрын
@@JohnTYoung I’ll go ahead and do the rivet method. I wonder why they fall off
@waferzworld Жыл бұрын
@@JohnTYoungTo be clear, are yours falling off on the road, or during off road riding? I just tried the rivet method and over crimped it… had to back it back out. I still have a regular link but don’t want to lose it on the road
@JohnTYoung Жыл бұрын
@@waferzworld I’m not 100% sure or when.
@arunvichetroth93913 жыл бұрын
why did yous use D.I.D instant of SuperSprox chain ?
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
I got 10,000 plus miles out of the last one.
@Chinsonrn3 жыл бұрын
Hey john. I just bought a 2021 450rl and my manual has chain slack set at 2 1/4 - 2 3/8 inch measured from the top of the swing arm. I wonder what has changed. Seems like a lot of slack in my chain at that tolerance.
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
With the wheel off the ground?
@Chinsonrn3 жыл бұрын
It does not specify. Picture shows bike with the kickstand down.
@JimJones-gd2jy2 жыл бұрын
John = Dr. Crf 450 L Doctor . . Damn
@JohnTYoung2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a real Doctor. I just play one on TV.
@robertcrawford10243 жыл бұрын
how is the rear wheel bearings?
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
Just peachy. Looks and rolls like new.
@JanEgeriis3 жыл бұрын
What is the problem with groves on chain slider and rollers as long as the sliders and rollers are not totally worn down (to the metal) ??
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
How long until they do wear into your swingarm? Will you catch it before any damage is done? What's the cost of a slider compared to a swingarm? As long as you don't gouge furrows into your important bits, there is no problem. Good questions! Thank you.
@JanEgeriis3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the answer. Really quick. 👍 I'm not even finished watching the video. 😁
@JanEgeriis3 жыл бұрын
I like your chain break. Nice that it only breaks. Simple tool. Thanks for this video and your channel. 👍
@JohnTYoung3 жыл бұрын
@@JanEgeriis Thanks for watching Jan!
@josephjoestar54442 жыл бұрын
No locktite ?
@JohnTYoung2 жыл бұрын
On what where? Everywhere? No.
@josephjoestar54442 жыл бұрын
@@JohnTYoung the rear sprocket bolts , I might’ve missed it
@JohnTYoung2 жыл бұрын
@@josephjoestar5444 None on those. It's a bolt with a nut on the back.
@6ixtymiles3 жыл бұрын
Alpha, Beta...... Zeta. Long A pronunciation. That's right, I'm a pronunciation bitch. LOL!!