Joint Venture Ep. 16: Undersquinted wedged scarf joint (Western Joinery)

In this series I explore different wood joinery techniques. This is not a 'how to' video. Just sit back and join me on my venture to find beautiful joinery! More Projects on: www.dorianbracht.com
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Wood: Hard Maple, American Walnut
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Music: Ultrasound - Kevin MacLeod

[@Hi-ci1dw]

We in Sri Lanka (Ceylon) still use this joint on our house roof ridge beams, since it is a very strong and durable joint. We call it 'Kimbul Thalla joint' meaning , "Crocodile's palate" !. Thank you for uploading this great video. ~ from 🇱🇰

[@martinberry1040]

I'm just setting out on a voyage of adventure with wood - my initial focus being joints cut with hand tools. You cannot imagine how much I appreciate you uploading these videos, giving mortals like myself a glimmer of hope and something to aim at. Man, you are a demon with that saw. Much obliged.

[@DorianBracht]

Thank you! Welcome on the journey!

[@robertbrunston5406]

Man that's an incredible joint! Thanks for sharing.

[@DorianBracht]

Thanks for watching!

[@BrettsForest]

Glad I found your channel again. Now to join you on the journey of joinery 👍👍 thanks for all the uploads.

[@DorianBracht]

Thanks for watching!

[@mikaylaboo1]

Dorian, I love your chisels, and that saw is unique.

[@DorianBracht]

Thank you :)

[@bennoah1673]

Japanese tools

[@timothyball3144]

When undercutting that surface, it reminded me of metalworkers scraping a surface. But they do it to achieve a level surface with low areas for lubrication. The technique is essentially the same. Start with a fairly flat surface, use a precision reference surface lightly painted with dye, then rub them together and scrape the high spots.

[@DorianBracht]

Same here. I find scraping in very interesting to watch!

[@ColdCoffee122]

Ooh new shoes. Loving these videos.

[@DorianBracht]

+Cold Coffee_ hehehe, new old shoes :) thanks!

[@user-vp6ky1js7n]

Just made this joint after watching your great video! thanks so much!

[@DorianBracht]

Awesome! Glad it helped!

[@Doorkicker505]

That joint is nice and tight !! Nice job !!

[@DorianBracht]

Thank you!

[@robertopadilha141]

Você é um excelente profissional Parabéns.

[@sumajiaji984]

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[@Javafiendcuppajoe]

Thank you for sharing, Subbed and liked.

[@DorianBracht]

+Albert Wallace thankyou!

[@kennedy67951]

Great Working Joint. This would Work Very Well In Adding Extra Length to a Post or Beam. Thanks for the Upload.

[@DorianBracht]

Thank you! That is what it is for :)

[@mikaylaboo1]

Nice, tight fit! Excellent.

[@DorianBracht]

Thanks ;)

[@sootycharlie]

speachless

[@sumajiaji984]

1

[@joselinpereira9941]

un exelente ensamble felicitaciones

[@rustynail3159]

If it wasn't so late at night I'd be running out to my wood shop to give this a try. Thanks for the video

[@DorianBracht]

+Rusty Nail nice! Glad to envigorate ;)

[@mattedwards4533]

Very nice work! I am retired and didn't think anyone would still be using a scarf joint? I use to make mine with the double wedge as you do but I never used a sharp angle on the top or bottom. I learned that it could break off easier if the angle was to steep?I believe a slighter angle might better serve you with this type joint? I am happy to see someone still appreciates true carpentry skills!

[@DorianBracht]

Thank you! Yes, thinking about it that way makes sense.

[@mattedwards4533]

@Heloise O'Byrne It depends on how wide a span you have and what is the depth of the joist. I would generally sister on a board as it sounds like what was done ? If it wasn't done to your satisfaction have it done again. Another obtion is if it is the ground floor adding another pillar to support the middle of the span. I have used this method many times with no problem nor complaint. Dorian will read your post and may have another method?

[@seanmccaffrey6378]

Excellent work! I hate to say it I’m so lazy I’d get my track saw out to do it,not the same I know

[@DorianBracht]

Thank you! Whatever works best. I probably would do most of it with machines if I was doing it for a client

[@nathanfreeman3217]

Did you flatten that surface with paint and a chisel AFTER using the plane? I had no idea such a thing was even possible! Badass!

[@eduardofernandez6756]

That was stupid. He can get better flatinning using the plane tool.

[@ChuckADickiner]

@@eduardofernandez6756 but its much easier to spoon out the center slightly with a chisel. Which is what he was doing. That keeps the edges tight.

[@paulcampbell_baldyoldgit]

And then he channeled out half the area he'd spent so much time flattening. Pointless doing the paint & chisel work until AFTER you've cut the shape out.

[@davebakerpurton]

I haven't cut one of those in over 30 years

[@DorianBracht]

+davebakerpurton :)

[@grebdnulyrag]

nice!

[@DorianBracht]

Thanks!

[@hubbardhamlin2]

this guy's wife sent him to the store to get 1 dozen oranges. he came home 12 hours later. why? each orange was perfectly perfect.

[@scotlandwoodwork2553]

"Undersquinted wedged scarf joint" Never heard that term before...Do you know its origin? Always known this joint as a "Raking Scarf with Butt End". Thanks for the great work, pleasure to watch.

[@DorianBracht]

Thank you! After a bunch of research I found this to be the actual name. I may still be wrong, since my woodworking apprenticeship didn't incorporate much carpentry. But I do believe the origins to be western.

[@scotlandwoodwork2553]

Thanks for replying. Cassell has it as a "Raking Scarf" circa 1850, but as I'm sure you are aware, trade practices and the Lexicon of the Joinery craft, changes with locale. Love the history of my trade, so I'm always interested in new terms. Thanks again.

[@elindred]

very nice. Would a plane have been a useful tool for paring the first angled face?

[@DorianBracht]

Thank you! Yes it would also have worked :)

[@luisadrianomeusparabens6863]

top parabéns

[@rashidanwar7392]

Nice

[@DorianBracht]

Thank you!

[@nikolajstyre]

I'm not sure, but this looks like an advanced type of a "French Joint" as we call it in Denmark, if i'm not mistaken

[@dillanmistry]

Cutting a straight line is so hard Him:

[@ROAlexa1981]

Could you put the measurements too ? Tks

[@salmansaeed2011]

nice

[@DorianBracht]

+Salman Saeed thanks!

[@rustyneedles3743]

What would be the best join to lengthen roofing rafters ? so that they can better withstand any horizontal/twisting forces ? this join seems great for vertical forces, yet I think not for the former ? ... thanks in advance to anyone that can help me out 🙂

[@PayneKiller23]

Nice job very clean joint, is this a japanes joint or western?

[@DorianBracht]

Thanks! This is a western joint :)

[@sulistiyonotukang4792]

good very good

[@DorianBracht]

Thank you!

[@coreyneilson9209]

What type of pencil is he using to check flatness? I’ve been using sidewalk walk but I think this pencil provides a more accurate indication.

[@DorianBracht]

It is a glass marking pencil on a flat bit of wood. Be sure to get rid of all of it if you are doing surfaces that will be glued. Or use a soft pencil (2B should be fine)

[@rogerscottcathey]

wanted to see more of the bench. top looks like mine but mine has drawers. 150 years old.

[@DorianBracht]

Mine is probably around 90 years oldish. Typical German „Hobelbank“

[@rogerscottcathey]

end vice have dove tails?

[@DorianBracht]

Yes, it does.

[@TheGogeta222]

@@DorianBracht ne Süddeutsche Form auch noch so wie's ausschaut xD

[@Tjita1]

Do you have a source for the templates of these joints?

[@DorianBracht]

+Tjita1 sometimes. This one, no.. :D

[@alexgunner1882]

Hi. At 1:47 why did you abandon the plane and start working with a chisel? Thank you for the rubbing colored crayon tip :)

[@MrD300]

what is the red stuff you used to mark the high spots and where would I find it?

[@DorianBracht]

+MrD300 just use pencil or charcoal or chalk on a flat surface.

[@MrD300]

Thank you, I am teaching myself woodworking. I purchased a book showing how to make many of the joinery you are showing on this channel. Reading and looking at drawings in a book is a start but to have you showing how is done really brings it to life and is a great help. Thank you again.

[@barkebaat]

chalk dulls the edge, it's mineral

[@ChuckADickiner]

It's called a chinese pencil and you can get them at art supply shops. They are grease based so will write easily on "wet" wood and wont damage tools

[@karelenhenkie666]

What is that red block called that you use ro highlight the high spots?

[@ChuckADickiner]

just a wood block that he rubbed a "Chinese pencil" on. It's kind of like a crayon. You can get them at art shops.

[@nilotpaldeka9256]

Good

[@stoneyswolf]

I wouldn't trust that to bear a load it wouldn't take much to break that right in half.

[@sumajiaji984]

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[@sootycharlie]

Tried it, super strong,

[@nathanbearden8685]

It's actually a very strong joint. If the load it's going to be supporting is a concern, you should still as always, install addition support or bracing

[@13ashor]

Not bad!

[@pordoy]

I noticed it' this method use in Philippines to connect the body of the bot and tail..

[@DorianBracht]

👌

[@PJMkayu]

Cocok cara nyambung nya

[@waldvogelreview7755]

looking for a large paring chisel like you have. May i ask where you got it or what kind of chisel it is?

[@DorianBracht]

It is from Japan from a company called Kireajihoken. It is very expensive though :/

[@michaeljamieson7371]

What are the measurements for marking this out ?

[@WesFanMan]

Looks pretty but what are the essential numbers?

[@DorianBracht]

Thank you. I just winged it, but you can probably google it.

[@rizztadaminiaudio6963]

This is made in java

[@whosaidthat5236]

What wood are you always using?

[@DorianBracht]

Hard Maple

[@CptCraiggers]

Where do you get your chisels?

[@DorianBracht]

+CptCraiggers dictum.com or fine-tools.com or in Japan.

[@CptCraiggers]

Thanks for your reply. I've been watching all your joinery videos, great work man. I look forward to using some of these in my own projects.

[@vinture7177]

Soo... we are doing this at school with popsicle sticks. Gonna be quite hard..

[@michaelwhitley2081]

Laminate the popsicle sticks first...

[@bhupindersingh1136]

Cari good

[@hosteriaAMICIballenita]

Quiero saber bien esto , me gusta

[@johnshilling2221]

A great joint, but most of these cuts could very easily be done with a bandsaw... and I'll bet they are when used in home building.

[@DorianBracht]

Thanks! The bandsaw would be for waste removal, but finishing the joint surfaces should be done with chisel and hand plane to ensure a good fit.

[@leonardovianello6904]

Wich kind of wood do you use for your work??

[@DorianBracht]

+Leonardo Vianello Hard Maple

[@ROAlexa1981]

More exactly, "Wood: Hard Maple, American Walnut"

[@matthewhopkins7042]

Where would you use this though?

[@Sailing_Bungaree]

Generally where you want to join two long pieces of timber to make a longer piece. Thinking about a roof ridge, traditional timber framed barns, it’s used a lot in boatbuilding. Seach Tally-Ho scarfing the keel for a massive version of this joint!

[@rosiocaicedo666]

Hola me gustaría que me ayudarás con los planos de tipo de ensamblaje ... soy novato en ese tipo de ensamblaje

[@pedreirovioleiro]

muito bom sucesso pararabens

[@sumajiaji984]

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[@jamesjohnson2006]

In 1978 I was sat by an oil drum throwing wood in to it, I was an apprentice carpenter. My father (The boss ) said to me "What the fuck you doin sittin there" "The ridge isn't long enough dad" Fuckin scarf it you lazy bastard I don't haul this shit in for you to sit on an burn, you've seen me an your kid do it now get off the fuckin thing an get it up there!! That's how I learned to be a carpenter !!! (Lovely plane by the way, I used an old saw my dad gave me )😉

[@DorianBracht]

Nice 😂

[@keegandelvour7159]

It would've been nice if you actually gave measurements i could work with?

[@DorianBracht]

I winged it. You can probably google it.

[@keegandelvour7159]

My dad said it had to be measured out by the size of the wood alone. So i do apologize for my stupid comment in this case.thanks for sharing your videos it helps a lot

[@DorianBracht]

All good man :)

[@FarhadSadeghi]

آفرین

[@glassjb]

Western joinery... Eastern saws

[@rinzualatlau3250]

It's a great job but you're not explained this

[@sumajiaji984]

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[@DorianBracht]

Thank you!

[@vichy72]

y eso como pa que se usa tienes un pedaso de madera entero y lo cortas en pedasos pa' unirlo tener el mismo pedaso pero menos fuerte👍

[@caraluvi]

virge lara Se usa para alargar vigas.

[@hernannunez7387]

Es un empalme de vigas o tirantes. Utiliza la misma madera porq se tiene q hacer el mismo corte en las dos vigas a empalmar. Sirve solo para la explicación

[@TheGogeta222]

Is des Ned einfach a schräger Gerberstoß?

[@sumajiaji984]

5

[@kosalapk5382]

We want machiment

[@aeming6477]

pekerjaan Indonesia sejak zaman Ir.soekarno

[@sujudnugraha482]

Bahkan sejak jaman belanda

[@leocatano5016]

K8

[@sumajiaji984]

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[@niklar55]

I was taught that an accurately sawn joint should need NO chiselling, and if it did, then points were deducted.

[@DorianBracht]

That's true for furniture work. But doing carpentry work is another story

[@niklar55]

@@DorianBracht I dont see that whatever you call the work makes any difference. I put in a replacement section of a floor beam in a woman's 200+ year old house some years ago, and it was a double scarf joint. Slid into place between the two ends and fitted snug, and no chiselling. Chiselling wastes time, and time is money. What do you class as ''carpentry work,''?

[@DorianBracht]

Wow, then you are pretty talented. Hats off to you. How long have you been working wood?

[@niklar55]

@@DorianBracht In my final year, at 14-15, I was top of my school in woodwork, and was selected to make a 'tea trolley' for the headmasters study, so he had something to put his tea and biscuits on, when he was entertaining the governors. After leaving school, still at 15, I made my mother a sewing cabinet which had secret mitre dovetails. Following that I joined the RAF, in 1962, and then my lifestyle prevented me doing much, until I started my own building business, 20 or so years later. When I did the double scarf beam, I was ''retired'' and crossed my fingers that I'd get it right first time. Seems its a bit like riding a bicycle, you never forget. I was also top in science, second in art, and amusingly, third in RK, which was a surprise as I was already an atheist, and as the RK teacher said, ''but you've done no work during the year!'' My reply was, ''All I have to do is put down on paper what you've been stuffing in my ears for a year, I dont have to believe it.'' I've mused from time to time, how I could blend those abilities into one occupation, but never came to a conclusion. Maybe making church furniture, for the Scientology group would come close, but with my attitude, I'd be as welcome as Pig in a ''bar mitzvah.''😊 I'm presently constructing a new set of doors for my 200+ year old stone barn, approximately 3m x 3m, to replace the ancient existing decrepit doors. I've had to put a new floor in the attic, as the workshop at ground level being on a slope, was partly below ground level, and in winter, when it rained hard, partly below the water table, so it got flooded! Not so good for my tools. I'm using treated construction timber, which has its problems, as its not very exact, and inclined to be a bit bent here an there, and vary in thickness and width from piece to piece. but, if you follow the rules, and work from 'face sides and edges' things work out fairly well. Hope I haven't bored you.

[@DorianBracht]

Not at all! Very interesting story indeed! I wish you success with your stone bar reconstruction!

[@zaxis110.hitachi]

sambungan kayunya masi kurang pas,

[@admin6185]

Что это????

[@amriid]

This is from Java architecture

[@mounbakko5871]

sure, a western joinery... but you just went thru the motion and I did not see the soul of the craft man enter the end product. no doubt a 'western joinery'.

[@jeffreydagdigian3303]

what??!

[@manicmute9440]

lol

[@bmandrakeeee8378]

shut up

[@user-6u9h2s9k]

Как же блядь это всё долго!

[@SKANK_HUNT49]

What is the point of that? What a waste of time some people have too much time

[@DorianBracht]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@user-tv1vw8qn1m]

нахуя

[@user-fq9kb1bq9i]

Меня мучительно приследует один вопрос! Нахуя?

[@xnuter906]

Нах..я??

[@blackpaper13]

this is japanese joinry

[@DorianBracht]

+blackpaper13 it’s actually more common in the west, maybe also central asia...

[@bmandrakeeee8378]

brazilians use it all the time in ceiling building. we call it "mão de amigo" (friend's hand).

[@whitacrebespoke]

Also called a trait de Jupiter scarf joint here in Europe. Not as elaborate as the Japanese forms of scarf joint.

[@TermiteUSA]

Everybody says oh that's Japanese but the same scarf joint appears in boats built all over the world, including Europe and the Americas, from as early as there is evidence.

[@shaggycar1]

Thanks i learned absolutely NOTHING!!!!

[@DorianBracht]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@ryanmossaway970]

This music is atrocious.