Repairing a Damaged Post the Traditional Way

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Dylan Iwakuni

Dylan Iwakuni

Күн бұрын

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@hughelliott4656
@hughelliott4656 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! You’ve done an amazing job of presenting a vanishing art. It’s this kind of documentary that keeps this mastery alive and opens closed eyes to its value.
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind comment and the generous super thanks! It is very encouraging to hear! 😊 Btw sorry for my late reply, I didn’t realise your comment until now.
@voidborn-one
@voidborn-one 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore that this is a practical project and where it made life easier you used power tools. The art is most beautiful where it meets the real life.
@Zie_carpentry
@Zie_carpentry 2 жыл бұрын
Hello my friend
@ikust007
@ikust007 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. And he is a humble and talented gentleman.
@domward8352
@domward8352 2 жыл бұрын
Very much so, it's not simply a demonstration it's seeing it in its practical, real-life application.
@Evolucion7
@Evolucion7 2 жыл бұрын
I love this philosophy of retaining as much of the original as possible, and instead of hiding the repair, you make the repair a thing of beauty. Much in the same way as kintsugi repairs to broken pottery. It's ecologically sound, beautiful to behold, and a refreshing way to think about things.
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that 😊🙌
@jdmjesus6103
@jdmjesus6103 2 жыл бұрын
The engineer in me loves this joint. It's very clever. It looks to be about as strong as a contiguous piece of wood in all directions, the way it puts the wood in tension and compression like it would be were it one piece is amazing. None of it is for show. And that makes it beautiful.
@The6568
@The6568 2 жыл бұрын
In France we use a "trait de Jupiter".
@Dazza19746
@Dazza19746 2 жыл бұрын
In Scotland we use a a locked scarf joint, not as advanced, but it does have folding wedges which is a Breyer adaptation than the square peg here
@JohnDoe-yq9rt
@JohnDoe-yq9rt Жыл бұрын
Too bad engineers and architects in the West don’t care about beauty. Nothing but square eyesores.
@Dedeseptul
@Dedeseptul 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to tell you how much I appreciate your content. Sharing the traditional Japanese way of carpentry while incorporating it in work projects is just so impressive. Also here in Germany it would be unthinkable to fix an old post in such a complicated manner. In most of the cases it would just be replaced. It makes me happy to see that people still believe in the value of things that last!
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind comment 😊🙌
@andersonlong7709
@andersonlong7709 6 ай бұрын
This is an inspiration for carpenters and woodworkers around the world and thank you for keeping the highest integrity of Japanese carpentry alive. I was fortunate as a young carpenter over 45 years ago to have been exposed and inspired by Japanese joinery, and would say that I built a few houses using it. But that wouldn’t be entirely accurate, as it was those few houses that built me instead. Thank you.
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind comment
@snowpapua
@snowpapua 2 жыл бұрын
祖父が大工だったので、よく現場に連れて行ってもらいました。当時はまだ手刻みでねぇ。大工さんたちの手で魔法のように固い木が刻まれ、組み立てるとぴったり合う。それが不思議で1日見ていたものでした。墨壺で引いた線が鋸の幅と重なって、仕上がると墨の線が消えてしまう。墨壺そのものも大工さんが手作りでしたっけ。懐かしいなぁ。
@ricos1497
@ricos1497 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful repair job, looks better than the original. It's fantastic that people are willing to pay for this level of repair, which enhances the existing whilst leaving a story behind detailing the change. I've done a handful of these scarf joints recently for a project in the house and they turned out nicely (nowhere near as accurate and clean as yours). I was doing it in miniature scale on long thin spindles for a clothes drier, and had to use 1/8th inch chisels, so it was a little difficult for my first attempt. The marking out took a while to get my head around. Especially with the notched (shaped like a T) parts, which add to the dimension of the joint but don't get cut out until last. I got there in the end, and instead of just replicating, I made sure I cut each joint like it was my first in order to try and get the method into my brain! Your videos are inspiring, so thanks!
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks - it’s great to hear your story 😊
@deldridg
@deldridg 2 жыл бұрын
Very inspring Rico and thanks for your note here. I am keen to do the same. My chisels are Swiss (Pfeil), not Japanese so I hope they will work! At least they're sharpened with Japanese water stones... I love my Japanese saws too. If only I had a hint of Japanese craftsmanship about me... Cheers from Sydney - Dave
@ricos1497
@ricos1497 2 жыл бұрын
@@deldridg thanks Dave. I used British made chisels and a gents saw for mine. As long as you can saw straight and sharpen well, you're good to go. A nice straight grained wood is best, and stay well clear of knots if possible. Pfeil make some fantastic tools, I some of their gouges for carving, and they hold a great edge. They're quite expensive in the UK, so I only have a few.
@deldridg
@deldridg 2 жыл бұрын
@@ricos1497 I'm sure you made a fine job of it! Decent tools here are not cheap either so I've built up a modest collection over some time, trying to develop a level of ability with each one as I go. With a small but growing collection of beautiful timbers there's always an opportunity, given the time constraints on a dad these days, to try to make something special. Such a lovely pursuit and now I can join you and add scarf joints to the aspirational list!
@SouthernItalyHomestead
@SouthernItalyHomestead Жыл бұрын
Impressive! I love the mentality of repairing old structures rather than replacing.
@travelling_stephen
@travelling_stephen 2 жыл бұрын
Japanese carpentry is brilliant I could sit and watch it all day, thanks for sharing it with us.
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that! Thanks Stephen!
@rodneymounsey4168
@rodneymounsey4168 Жыл бұрын
Craftsmanship, Art, Practical skills, used for everyday needs. You have my admiration! Thank you for sharing this!
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni Жыл бұрын
Thanks 😊
@Harry-x4n
@Harry-x4n 2 жыл бұрын
I was just reading a book about japanese architecture from the late 1800's. where they detailed this type of post, one that's repaired or intentionally fitted to a stone. Although I believe it said that the stones in its examples were round, smooth stones from the ocean or rivers that had been hammered halfway into the earth with large mallets. Basically the same thing. Really surreal how you hear about something once and suddenly see it elsewhere having never before seen it. They showed the plub line you used too, albeit a more primitive, hand drawn one lol. Absolutely love this.
@behooman7749
@behooman7749 2 жыл бұрын
@Dylan Iwakuni Every time I watch your videos it makes me wanna start woodworking again and learn the Japanese style.
@richcollins3490
@richcollins3490 Жыл бұрын
It's an absolute joy to watch your videos, Japanese carpentry is so remarkable as is your skills.
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni Жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that 😊🙌
@richardskull5279
@richardskull5279 Жыл бұрын
Excellent craftsmanship! Good to see the beam was saved and not completely wasted. Very impressive mating of the stone to the end of the wooden post.
@mvansome
@mvansome 2 жыл бұрын
Love the way the dowel is driven in and actually tightens the entire joint together...really cool
@indalcecio
@indalcecio 2 жыл бұрын
It's called drawboring
@ikust007
@ikust007 2 жыл бұрын
I love the fact of salvaging such a piece of wood because of the quality of your knowledge, therefore keeping the work of the previous carpenter.
@Zie_carpentry
@Zie_carpentry 2 жыл бұрын
Top jointer ☺👍
@T-goet
@T-goet 2 жыл бұрын
❤️Impressive! You are such a consummate craftsman! I am a stone Mason in Seattle. I have a huge appreciation for your talent/talents!👊🏻 I really enjoy your videos! I come home from working all day… and then watch videos of people like you working😆 And… I play my guitar/sing/write songs. I believe that there is a transferable essence in Artisan trades/skills that (dove-tail😉) into the process of songwriting/music. Tangible talents DO inform more intangible talents. Inspiration is all around us✨🙌
@AndreasPratama2030
@AndreasPratama2030 2 жыл бұрын
I can't even cut paper straightly.. What a craft. This is so great.
@Zie_carpentry
@Zie_carpentry 2 жыл бұрын
☺👍👍👍
@williamdoyle649
@williamdoyle649 2 жыл бұрын
This was a fascinating look at a master carpenter solving an age old problem with a beautiful solution.
@Zie_carpentry
@Zie_carpentry 2 жыл бұрын
Excuseme 🙏🙏🤝🤝
@carlbettis5882
@carlbettis5882 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing watch that was, such skill, pride and perfection.
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni Жыл бұрын
Thanks 😊
@guyprolly
@guyprolly 2 жыл бұрын
You and Mr. Chickadee are really tuned into something godlike. Thank you.
@Mindlabytinth
@Mindlabytinth 2 жыл бұрын
Fitting the bottom of the post to the stone left me in awe
@pinview8519
@pinview8519 2 жыл бұрын
Minimal waste, the post is as good as new and may last another hundred years. What fine craftsmanship!
@ronniestanley75
@ronniestanley75 2 жыл бұрын
I started to say something smart about just replacing the whole post since it fell out anyway. Then, I watched the video and at the end thought, I can't even imagine how much a post that length would cost today.
@mehusla
@mehusla 2 жыл бұрын
Not just a master carpenter, but a great engineer!
@tatovive
@tatovive 2 жыл бұрын
That was awesome. I really enjoyed the ‘real world’ repair. Thank you
@rynor7132
@rynor7132 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. That is really something. Ive never considered fixing and old post.
@pawnpansafargrajang7667
@pawnpansafargrajang7667 2 жыл бұрын
Your craftsmanship and artist sense amaze me. I lost of words to describe how impress I am. Woodwork in supreme level.
@kouichiyama1001
@kouichiyama1001 2 жыл бұрын
修復こそ大工の力量が問われる仕事だと思う。 やはり日本の大工仕事は丁寧さが有るから見ていて気持ちが良いわ。
@MattFriend
@MattFriend 2 жыл бұрын
I love how it looks like the post sprouts out of the rock!
@jimw544
@jimw544 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful work. A true craftsman.
@Zie_carpentry
@Zie_carpentry 2 жыл бұрын
Hello
@scottandersen420
@scottandersen420 2 жыл бұрын
Very slick technique, calming to watch.
@merlinalphonse9336
@merlinalphonse9336 2 жыл бұрын
maitre en son art, ce professionnel a reçue la meilleure des formations, et avait les qualités pour les assimiler et les appliquer ! bravo!
@dt-qh2cj
@dt-qh2cj 2 жыл бұрын
Great work! That was the issue the wood post needed a 'stone FOOT' for water drainage. Thank you for sharing it was enjoyable seeing your skills.
@Zie_carpentry
@Zie_carpentry 2 жыл бұрын
Top 🙂👍
@deldridg
@deldridg 2 жыл бұрын
About 10 years back we had a tradesman replace a 100mm x 100mm supporting post. If only I'd seen this video back then, I'd have had a crack at it. May almost be finished by now too! Our man used very traditional Aussie methods. First, he turned up later than he promised, brought an incorrectly sized replacement post, then left sawdust and bits everywhere including the old rotten post and charged like a wounded bull right up the clacker. Job well done mate! Where we you when we needed you Dylan? Cheers, Dave ;-)
@noelsmith4359
@noelsmith4359 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a couple of blokes used to work for me (not for long). A retired Aussie builder.
@deldridg
@deldridg 2 жыл бұрын
@@noelsmith4359 Sorry to hear that. With all the labour shortages in the building game right now, many more such "tradies" will be coming out of the woodwork no doubt. We've just kicked off a big renovation of our timber home in Sydney, so fingers crossed they keep away. Like you, they'll get swift marching orders otherwise!
@noelsmith4359
@noelsmith4359 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! No need to say more. (from a retired carpenter/builder).
@paulshaw5119
@paulshaw5119 2 жыл бұрын
It`s almost like the post is growing out of the rock! AWESOME!
@gimmemorenow
@gimmemorenow 2 жыл бұрын
Now that is a work of art, beautiful.
@SxWerks
@SxWerks 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t know why watching the masterful crafting of this beautiful 3D splice joint is so spellbinding but I love it. Setting the stone in mortar to raise the wood base from water, carving the wood base to match the stone profile, resetting the repaired column and setting the joint with an angled dowl. Beautiful.
@mattwood6144
@mattwood6144 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Canada! Absolutely beautiful work! True craftsmanship! I've always loved those scarf joints ... very clever way to join two pieces of timber. I also loved seeing you use your profile gauge instead of a scriber to fit the bottom to the stone. Thanks for sharing!
@andydelarue9344
@andydelarue9344 2 жыл бұрын
Wow , nice work , this is what we are going to have to do as wood becomes more expensive than labour. Good job 👍 cheers you have earned one.
@arth.4196
@arth.4196 Жыл бұрын
WOW, I truly see the artistic Craftsman
@arkansasboy45
@arkansasboy45 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is some beautiful saw and chisel work. I really like the set of chisels that you are using in this video.
@Zie_carpentry
@Zie_carpentry 2 жыл бұрын
☺☺👍
@TigerCarpenter
@TigerCarpenter 2 жыл бұрын
Dylan Iwakuni is a true master of the craft. I am learning from each and every of his videos. and I need to buy that shape capturing jig NOW
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words and cup of coffee 😊
@DrMcsteamRice
@DrMcsteamRice 2 жыл бұрын
The fastest 13:03 of my life. That was so enjoyable and satisfying. Great job!
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
I’m happy to hear that! Thank you 😊
@ZGGordan
@ZGGordan 2 жыл бұрын
09:50 dude, you are a genius, I'm totally stealing this technique 🤣 Epic job, thanks for sharing!
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that! 👍
@SweeSTDream
@SweeSTDream 2 жыл бұрын
@@dylaniwakuni Great work! whats that tool called?
@Sokol10
@Sokol10 2 жыл бұрын
​@@SweeSTDream "Contour Gauge".
@ΑΝΤΩΝΙΟΣΡΕΠΠΑΣ
@ΑΝΤΩΝΙΟΣΡΕΠΠΑΣ 2 жыл бұрын
This is not a job …. This is ART!!!!! Beautiful
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@GEOHHADDAD
@GEOHHADDAD 2 жыл бұрын
To me the most intriguing part of Japanese culture is the respect for art and artisanship as well as science and technology.
@H2Dwoat
@H2Dwoat 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for this. A joy to watch a craftsman at work 👍.
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that 😊
@Ts-T
@Ts-T 2 жыл бұрын
What I get from this, when it comes to accuracy, you need handtools. And a lot of experience to use them. Enjoying your vids. Thanks
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that 😊
@indalcecio
@indalcecio 2 жыл бұрын
Not exactly true, you can get accuracy with hand or power tools, just a different discipline. Power tools generally get their accuracy from establishing reference surfaces and precise setup, hand tools more so from careful marking and slowly working your way to your marks. They both have advantages, power tools, once set up give repeatability and are more productive when doing many of the same works, but hand tools are actually often faster if you're just doing one piece. You'll often hear woodworkers remark that by the time a router or table saw jig is set up, you can already be done with hand tools.
@JedediahSmith342
@JedediahSmith342 10 ай бұрын
Excellent job well done I love the traditional approach on that stone splendid. Thank you for sharing. ⛩️🎏🙏🏽
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 10 ай бұрын
Cheers!😊🙌
@gedog77
@gedog77 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dylan. Very helpful. Multi tool is now on my shopping list alongside the circular saw.
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that 😊🙌
@zachwhite6524
@zachwhite6524 Жыл бұрын
SUGOI!!! This is amazing! Thank you for posting
@adstoop7885
@adstoop7885 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that is real craftsmanship. Deep respect for this way of working. We Europeans can learn a lot from that. Absolutely great result. Nothing new but adapt, no neglect. TOP
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
That’s great to hear 😊
@johnnyesleo
@johnnyesleo 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work Iwakuni san!
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😊
@Гена-ю9д
@Гена-ю9д Жыл бұрын
Always like Japanese precision👍👍👍
@ratdesignshop
@ratdesignshop 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s amazing. I really want to try something like this inside my house.
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to it! 👍
@Camouflage2770
@Camouflage2770 2 жыл бұрын
The whole time I’m wondering what the hell is he using that stone for? And then he starts scribing the post into it. My God I was blown away! You just don’t see that around anymore.
@scottmatich1374
@scottmatich1374 2 жыл бұрын
Great job sir!
@markb276
@markb276 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work, thankyou for taking the time to share your skill 👍😊
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind comment 😊
@jacomo226
@jacomo226 8 ай бұрын
Hopefully I will be doing this joinery one day, fingers crossed 😅
@Myrkskog
@Myrkskog 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work.
@Zie_carpentry
@Zie_carpentry 2 жыл бұрын
Yrss sirv☺☺👍
@johnsm007
@johnsm007 2 жыл бұрын
amazing craftmanship
@andyd.1793
@andyd.1793 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work. Next time I visit Japan, I will look for a nice set of chisels like the ones you use. Especially the wide one in the beginning of the video. I enjoyed watching you work.
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
That’s great to hear 😊
@aerialrescuesolutions3277
@aerialrescuesolutions3277 2 жыл бұрын
You can buy those chisels here now, they are awesome. There's a link in the description.
@benfurbank
@benfurbank 2 жыл бұрын
Love the modern tools used to fill effect.
@seinundzeiten
@seinundzeiten 2 жыл бұрын
fantastic craftsmanship...
@troystaten5633
@troystaten5633 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Thanks for showing us.
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers! 😊🙌
@GordiansKnotHere
@GordiansKnotHere 2 жыл бұрын
Great work! Thank you very much.
@chuckholton4666
@chuckholton4666 2 жыл бұрын
Magnificent! So practical and even more beautiful! Thanks for sharing!!
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers 😊🙌
@Гена-ю9д
@Гена-ю9д Жыл бұрын
Japanese quality is always at it is best👍
@Taleton
@Taleton Жыл бұрын
A Master at work !!!! Thank you
@jameskarwacki5802
@jameskarwacki5802 2 жыл бұрын
A job well done Dylan
@googoogjoobgoogoogjoob
@googoogjoobgoogoogjoob 2 жыл бұрын
Clever. If it were me I'd have bought a new post.
@Zie_carpentry
@Zie_carpentry 2 жыл бұрын
Hello my friend☺☺
@jimandskittum
@jimandskittum 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting!
@alpineflauge909
@alpineflauge909 2 жыл бұрын
world class content
@rauschguitars
@rauschguitars 2 жыл бұрын
That is incredible! Great job
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😊
@charlesphillips8635
@charlesphillips8635 2 жыл бұрын
Fabulous just fabulous.
@cameronboucher7805
@cameronboucher7805 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work Dylan 👍👍😎
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😊
@christopherramsey4467
@christopherramsey4467 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@goober650NX
@goober650NX Жыл бұрын
Really good job. Very clearly demonstrated. Is there any particular angle off plumb that the splice faces are marked at ? Thanks for making the video and for taking the time to upload.
@gradyfuller3397
@gradyfuller3397 2 жыл бұрын
that is beautiful joinery sir
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@buzzmay207
@buzzmay207 Жыл бұрын
I AM VERY IMPRESSED ❤
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni Жыл бұрын
Thanks 😊
@gaslitworldf.melissab2897
@gaslitworldf.melissab2897 2 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable. In my opinion, since ancients didn't have the variety of tools we have today, they _had_ to take their time and get things precise, relying on sight and touch for accuracy. And even though we haven't figured out how the pyramids were erected, I imagine incredible ingenuity. After all, they were definitely intelligent.
@Zie_carpentry
@Zie_carpentry 2 жыл бұрын
☺👍
@wasaodesuyo
@wasaodesuyo Жыл бұрын
素人目には1本全部新しくすれば?って思えますが、活かすってことが大切なんですね。 すばらしいです。
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni Жыл бұрын
ありがとうございます😊
@raggedworld
@raggedworld 2 жыл бұрын
This is really cool and looks quite lovely! Well done!
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@anthonyskellern5970
@anthonyskellern5970 2 жыл бұрын
Just wonderful!
@stevecanny1583
@stevecanny1583 2 жыл бұрын
Well done Dylan! Very nice job indeed :)
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@ZygmuntKiliszewski
@ZygmuntKiliszewski 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Bravo 👌.
@rickkearn7100
@rickkearn7100 2 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal craft work! Cheers.
@Midori-Clover
@Midori-Clover 2 жыл бұрын
大変、丁寧な良い仕事をお見せ下さって、ありがとうございます。😊 こちらにコメントを書き込んで頂いている、多くの外国人の方々にも、古い建築物を大切に修理して使い続ける、日本の価値観の真骨頂を、少しでもご理解頂けたら良いと思っております。🤗🍀
@dylaniwakuni
@dylaniwakuni 2 жыл бұрын
嬉しいコメントありがとうございます😊
@larrypollman5243
@larrypollman5243 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive.
@seancollins6524
@seancollins6524 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool video 📹 clip. Looking in from Ireland 🇮🇪
@thecasualcitizen492
@thecasualcitizen492 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing skill. Thank you for this video.
@pochipochi0425
@pochipochi0425 2 жыл бұрын
これは凄い!正にプロの仕事!
@micheleploeser7720
@micheleploeser7720 2 жыл бұрын
Very enlightening, thank you
@andrewkinsey8754
@andrewkinsey8754 Жыл бұрын
Japanese effort seems to be at a somewhat higher standard than everybody else
@leho5416
@leho5416 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to see how he routed the down spout. Great skill in working fast with his tools.
@jiyushugi1085
@jiyushugi1085 2 жыл бұрын
Notice that the post is made from the center of the tree. Also, it is oriented in the direction it grows (up) because it's stronger in compression that way. Also notice that they don't quit work when it gets dark, they just put up lights.......
@zed9452
@zed9452 6 ай бұрын
Great craftsmanship with simple tools. Can you tell me the name of the tool used to get the curves of the rock and where I might be able to get it.
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