Should MEN have a say?

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00:00 Intro
01:22 Abortion is murder
13:31 Abortion is justifiable in situations of rape and incest
22:33 Abortion should be legalised in Nigeria
39:59 It’s okay for the biological father to insist on/dictate the keeping of a child
51:25 There are enough resources to successfully raise a child in Nigeria
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[@simplye.l.]

How can you compare rape to getting artificially inseminated? That's wild to me...

[@alugirl93]

my mouth is still wide open

[@Amiebaybiee]

Very insensitive

[@bluebird4815]

These people are wild and talk too much without actually saying anything sensible.

[@ugonnanwafulume3478]

I’m not going to lie, it’s very wild!!

[@Milliray588]

Very wild , it’s crazy

[@AmerieFanbase]

If you do not have the means to take care of a child, do not have a child. That simple

[@xss67]

What if it's r*pe???

[@nickisson372]

Yes

[@boochi7087]

Period!

[@theghostofumarskoolishere.4632]

That’s what the abortion is for smart one.

[@user-pq2nv7lt8n]

rape? molestation?

[@LiveloveJemi]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1159">19:19</a> "Leave the rest for God" is our biggest problem as Nigerians. God will not come down from heaven to do anything if you don't make the best decision for yourself first.

[@simplye.l.]

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@user-qq6br5pz4b]

Jesus*** God is everyone. I agree u tho. But u see eh? Abortion is UnGodly. So that girl is right.

[@ShareDmoney]

Exactly, even the bible said faith without work is dead

[@zyiacoleman1364]

Thank you

[@TheJoshProject]

​@@ShareDmoneyMaking the best decision for yourself isn't faith tho

[@salvinaparks3575]

‘A child that can become a doctor tomorrow’ the child fit dey smoke igbo tomorrow too

[@pelumiolalere360]

True

[@lifewithchigor]

😂😂😂😂😂That talk off me, this comment even off me pass💔

[@user-bu1hl7ji2i]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@lungilemahlangu1746]

Positive mindset don’t think like you… learn to utter positive things

[@charlescynthia7096]

😂😂😂😂

[@theCreativeSav]

The lady that said that thing about taking a life removes 5 years from your life is so dull. That implies that the woman in her story that has done 20 abortions has removed 100 years from her life. Let’s say the woman is currently 40 years, does that means she was meant to live for 140 years? Some people open their mouth and vomit senselessness. Talking about “You need to read”

[@aestheticallyayomide682]

honestly, I could not believe my ears! some people are so lost😭

[@galacticos2678]

she definitely doesn't speak with facts but rather hearsay. if we use are logic, what about people who killed others in war?😂

[@nanaamapay9632]

That's when they agrue base on sentiments, beliefs and preconceived notions

[@vinceeee6728]

PLEASE…That was so dumb ! 😭😂😂

[@folaodeyemi6949]

I was so furious when I heard her say that.

[@adebunmitimi3695]

Man that can decide to leave anytime will be the one to dictate 😂

[@inegsfrancis8531]

That's why we have the court to put things like this in check

[@LiveloveJemi]

@@inegsfrancis8531 How will you get someone to sign papers or go to court if you have no way of contacting them?

[@irechukwunwosu408]

And woman to can decide to leave anytime

[@Januaryof28]

​@@irechukwunwosu408they are more attached your mom teaches u everything u know

[@tarzandaniel2770]

Therefore the baby takes the heat because of that?

[@LiveloveJemi]

The adoption argument doesn't work, especially in the context of Nigerian society. Many Nigerian families, no matter how badly they want a child, will NEVER adopt. We see children that are adopted as illegitimate, lesser than biological children. I know this to be true because my mother has a lot of friends that struggled to conceive, and for them prayer was the first option, adoption was the very last (only one of them actually adopted a baby). Not only that, but the process of adoption in Nigeria is overly complicated and those who do adopt are most likely to adopt a baby, so if the child doesn't get adopted within the first 2 years of life, they will probably never be adopted.

[@chantelnatalya6433]

That is very true

[@user-dc6tn3iq7d]

This is very true. The rate of adoption in Nigeria is very low and have a bad mentality about adoption. And some that do mostly treat the children badly after having their own children.

[@serahdonald]

Yesssssss

[@kiniudokang1809]

@@user-dc6tn3iq7dwow so sad 😞

[@kiniudokang1809]

It’s a pity,you are right.

[@theCreativeSav]

Aborting a fetus is morally wrong but taking the lives of millions during war is okay just because they’re from a different country.

[@SamuelObafemi]

Those are different scenarios. They cannot be in the same sentence

[@theCreativeSav]

@@SamuelObafemi I’m just bringing to light the fact that it’s acceptable to kill in some scenarios and it isn’t in others.

[@boochi7087]

​@@SamuelObafemiIs a life not a life or are we saying that the people killed in war are not alive? 😂

[@angeleyes3396]

@@SamuelObafemi Either you are pro-life or not.

[@michealchristian2844]

That is a different argument. People that are killed in war have in the back of their mind that is either they kill their opponent or their opponent will kill tham. Either way dey know that they have two options kill or be killed. Now for Abortion the baby (zygote) which ever you want to call it. Does not have an option to say if he or she should die or not. Now this where you Argument is defeated of comparing people that die in war knowing fully well that dey will die or live to killing a Zygote whose decision to either live or die has being decided by the mother. One has the power make a decision While The other person (zygote) the decision has already being for him. People that die war is not the same has killing Zygote.

[@enyaofficial]

The teacher 😂🤣🤣🤣 “I want to tell u the gravity of what you just vomitted”

[@day_vid3606]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@pelumiolalere360]

Honestly the English is to much

[@thebloomplatinumtv]

I love it 😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@olayoonuidrisoo]

he should tell him actually....

[@prexo8192]

The thing tire me oo😂😂😂😂😂

[@densplayz9750]

A lot of people from the older generation follow this pattern that "I believe in this thing, therefore it is right" rather than "this thing is right, therefore I believe in it"...I think it's a very unsmart way of trying to understand the world

[@oluwapelumiolagunju2930]

well said

[@lawosluka7234]

you literally just proved that that is YOU

[@prosperonyesom3698]

“A child that can become a doctor tomorrow” what if he becomes a thief?

[@lungilemahlangu1746]

Positive mindset don’t think like you… learn to utter positive things

[@wilmercastillo5968]

The child could, but regardless from conception it is an innocent human life

[@TalkzWithQueenEsther]

😂😂😂

[@blessingomamerhen]

Or worse😢

[@blessingomamerhen]

​@@lungilemahlangu1746yes definitely it's right to always be positive. But we have to be realistic

[@fowokemiadeniji1710]

This discussion had the biggest plot twist. The anti-abortion team had someone who aborted. Pro-abortion had someone who didn't abort.

[@Mosa877]

That of the pro-abortion is still justifiable but that is the anti-abortion isn't simply because the pro-abortion might have not gotten her self into a situation where she does have to get one.

[@mofiyinadekanmbi3857]

Comparing rape and sperm banks is crazy

[@tegalicocious]

Do you get????????? Like THATS THE WILDEST!!!!!!!

[@Lois-babe]

Like sounds really ignorant if you ask me

[@adebanjogbemmy7027]

I would have loved it if a medical personnel (a medical doctor) is actually part of these individuals.

[@jointhecruise]

We reached out to a couple doctors but they won’t speak on the topic due to its legality in Nigeria.

[@iyuncephas2487]

​@@jointhecruisemaybe if yall keep them anonymous and sign some NDAs I thing you guys should be good to go cus it will give more depth to the topic .. all in all good job cause we need to have such discussions such as this

[@michaelchilaka3113]

Exactly 💯

[@adebanjogbemmy7027]

@@jointhecruise I dig. I am actually a pharmacist and to an extent, I am knowledgeable. Some abortions are actually necessary cos it’s life-threatening and a medical doctor would even request a patient goes for abortion. For example, a case of ectopic pregnancy.. Nevertheless, a very good job 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@simplye.l.]

@iyuncephas2487 yeah like in the scammers video

[@Anonymous_33919]

Pro lifers will judge you regardless. I kept my baby and was being shamed by a pro lifer for being a single mum. Let God be the judge!!

[@tarzandaniel2770]

Forget what people say, they would still say that if you didn't have a child. Now, look at that baby, would you have removed it?

[@lawosluka7234]

so people's opinions are your moral compass.. you will kill a baby because you believe people are hypocrites.. says a lot about you

[@donaldnyaaba]

The teacher feels his articulation equals wisdom 😂 My opinion tho

[@user-vq5kl7kl4w]

Too true... The man just dey spew rubbish with grammar

[@gracendem5698]

A very mumu man Looking like poised abject disenfranchisement 😂😂 with bottle eye for head

[@lawosluka7234]

@@user-vq5kl7kl4w you're both feeling insecure cause you know you are nowhere near as intelligent. if i'm lying tell me one thing he said that was wrong. just one.

[@andisiwesishuba3300]

Yah I second that

[@oshamossai242]

The man is just an empty golden barren English without sense

[@fredricknoel392]

for every abortion you reduce 5 years of your life...goes ahead to give an example of a woman who has had 20 abortions! 5*20=100 years...how is that lady still convinced that she is making sense?

[@simplye.l.]

No fr! I was hoping someone would point it out

[@SMadalena]

What woman has had 20 abortions?

[@Lade.A1]

i heard someone say pro life people are just pro birth, because the way those people who made you keep the pregnancy disappear after birth with no help to render is crazy, everybody with their choices; God have mercy on all of us

[@chantalle2507]

honestly. and the way that woman kept bringing up adoption as if those children don't also have immense trauma already.

[@Ytulipss]

Neither of these two comments takes nothing from the fact that you’ve taken a life…own it

[@densplayz9750]

​@@Ytulipss would you take the life of a stranger to save your own?

[@ilerilawal6026]

@@Ytulipss Yes but sometimes, it's the mother's life vs the fetus' life. You take a life to save a life. It's not an easy decision but it has to be made sometimes.

[@Nmbongeni]

​@@ilerilawal6026those r very few cases

[@kayceeak]

From now on, when someone says something ludicrous, my response will be "I marvel "😂

[@liyahchannel9145]

Frrr 😭😭

[@user-hv6ut1sp7q]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 😊

[@graciousepelle1463]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@rebeccalukusa3538]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 the best response

[@aisikuandrea8211]

You amaze me!!😂😂

[@xolalianaglate6803]

I’m anti abortion but I also understand circumstances like rape . That sperm bank analogy was wild

[@toodope_kay]

Like how do you even say that…that’s two different things lol

[@Tamny_pp]

then ur pro

[@Kingofthenet2]

Facts

[@joellewogui]

A vegetarian that’s okay with killing a foetus but not an egg is worse 😂

[@negroculturetechnology5598]

@@joellewoguivegetarians eat eggs…..

[@pascalinebaylon]

Children by choice and not by chance. Period

[@judahsawyerr9348]

Meaning u don't like the child ,u smoke it😢

[@pascalinebaylon]

@@judahsawyerr9348 It's crucial to approach this topic with compassion and understanding, rather than judgment. No one should be shamed or stigmatized for making a decision that is right for them. Remember, everyone's circumstances are unique, and it's essential to support and respect individuals' choices regarding their reproductive health. Let's continue to promote empathy, understanding, and inclusivity in our conversations about this important topic!

[@Kasiemobi_udemadu]

The Empathy should be from the point of saving the lives of babies

[@SMadalena]

rape does not justify abortion, killing an innocent person for the sake of a victim is a crime and a serious sin, one should never sacrifice an innocent person with the justification of saving another even more so without consent, after all, no one can return their life. the right thing to do is to at least bring it to the world. and let the child grow and choose their path, no matter how much they suffer or not, it is up to them to decide whether they prefer to live suffering or not, after most people who suffer in this world they prefer to continue living in it, otherwise only the happy on earth. If it cannot be adopted in your country it can be adopted in another, if you launch a public appeal someone will always appear from an NGO that takes care of minors willing to take in such a child. It is a selfish hypocrisy that exists in abortion. nothing justifies this practice. saying that the child has no consciousness is a lie after the fetus reacts During the abortion process, and even more so if it did not react, imagine killing a woman who is drugged until she loses consciousness, would it be because she did not feel the pain during death? Would this no longer be a crime in our society? I wouldn't let it Because even raping a baby who sometimes won't even remember the rape is considered a crime, just like abusing someone who is unconscious, even if they die during the abuse and never find out, after they die, that would be bad. same crime if any witness reported it. nafa justifies induced abortion.

[@pascalinebaylon]

@@SMadalena life is about choice. People should be allowed to do what makes them keep living. There are so many factors to consider when deciding on issues like this. Have we thought about the individuals mental health. And oh yes I know people are going to say the individual who decided to have an abortion is selfish. We are all selfish that’s why we keep living.

[@jemimahkwakuyi7879]

If presidents and military generals who sanction wars and civil suits aren't jailed, if universal health care isn't given and people die, in fact in ghana our light issues are so bad that 3 children have died in incubators and all these people haven't been put in jail , then abortion is the right of every woman. Abortion is healthcare. It is not by force to have life. Being a mother shouldn't be forced, rather it should be a role women should be proud of. Forcing a woman to be a mother brings problems.

[@Princess_Orla]

I believe abortion should be allowed in the case of rape, incest and where it threatens the mother’s life. But, when you engage in an activity knowing fully well the consequences, then you can’t just run away from this. Use protection or go for family planning. There should be education on these alternatives so that people don’t have to opt for abortion. Lastly, abstain from sex else, face what comes with it.

[@jemimahkwakuyi7879]

@Princess_Orla sex Ed professionals even know that telling people to abstain is not going to work. And you're here mentioning birth control and whatnot. Africa is a place where their definition of sex Ed is to scare women into not having sex. This abstaining thing is not sex education, not everyone can abstain but everyone can have sex education! Now these people are deprived from the necessary sex education they need because Africans put God God God into everything. And you forget that getting birthcontrol is uncomfortable for people. Because some health professionals still judge women who come for birth control. Women aren't properly protected, women aren't popularly educated, and you wonder why there are so many teenage and underage pregnancies! Doctors literally only recommend birth control to married women with medical conditions! Abortion is will reduce when everyone is properly educated and not given that abstainance lie. Even birth control fails! People have gotten pregnant with IUDs and condoms on and everything. A woman's body, whether society likes it or not, is not for society, its hers. The baby depends on her organs and everything to survive. She can take away its right to do so, because she also has autonomy. And say what happens to her body and who gets her nutrients. So if you want there to be less abortions, start educating women, and stop telling women what to do with their bodies.

[@judahsawyerr9348]

It's not by force to have life but it's ok to take the life of a baby

[@ShareDmoney]

I dont believe its healthcare, if that is healthcare then what else is ? Everything is healthcare then

[@SMadalena]

Not abortions not is women right. Because is not about your life,

[@stellahusseini5024]

The lady with yellow hair is always off point 😂💔

[@EniolaArowosegbe-zu4ko]

😂😂😂

[@evelynagyemang319]

😂😂😂😂😂She even asked.... "what is the difference between equal say and dictating"... I was like sis why did you vote without knowing the meaning of it🌚🤣🤣🤣

[@destinyrachel2719]

Likee😂

[@user-dc6tn3iq7d]

You no see her wig and the band when she take hold her brain 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@pelumiolalere360]

Likeee

[@Chelseadaqueen]

That girl in the yellow braids has no idea of what she’s talking about

[@Occ_okeosisii]

She’s annoying 😂

[@rukayatogunlana]

She's so stupid! 😂

[@jessicasvlog8370]

Na Olodo wey sitdown front of camera😭😂

[@prosperonyesom3698]

The amazing thing is they agree Nigeria isn’t a good place to raise kids but they want to keep bringing kids to Nigeria?

[@zoe-mv6ji]

Immigration isn’t a choice for everyone that doesn’t mean they should be limited from living their life and getting married having children etc

[@Iamgasio]

And are people not getting out of the country

[@SMadalena]

​@@zoe-mv6jii agree

[@Reuben2000]

Mehn this pro-abortion people came up with real facts mehn 👏. They won the debate hands down 💯

[@lawosluka7234]

you're so delusional lmaoooo.. if you really believe that i feel sorry for you for having to live a life with the level of intelligence you have

[@faithipeha.3942]

How many have you adopted ma? And how many of these kids on the street can you adopt??

[@keen_dah]

Find me the bald lady, damn She's so smart and she killed every prompt given

[@amanaliendealwithit]

Me too am looking for her???

[@shauntiey]

I need her in jubilee😅

[@lawosluka7234]

@@amanaliendealwithit you must lack the same amount of intelligence as her, your delusion is blinding you from seeing that she was educated by the man with glasses. name ONE argument she won, or ONE valid point she made, just ONE please

[@user-jm5te7mc7e]

Cap!…she said life is overrated..that’s trash talk gee

[@tayatalia]

Just like the lady said, illegalizing abortion won't bring a stop to it. It will just make it more dangerous for women. The same ppl that yapp about " its all life" should have the same energy with the bills with the raising of the child. Our own parents look at us with filth if we accept those "consequences". Abeg, every woman should decide what she wants. Its her uterus.

[@lawosluka7234]

murder is also still being committed even though it's illegal, does that mean it should be legalised? for your second point, people say criminals should be imprisoned, will you pay for the prisoners food in prison? or if homelessness is bad, will you take the homeless into your home? do you now see how silly your argument is? (i already know you wont cause you lack the intelligence to realise the correlation to what you said)

[@SMadalena]

rape does not justify abortion, killing an innocent person for the sake of a victim is a crime and a serious sin, one should never sacrifice an innocent person with the justification of saving another even more so without consent, after all, no one can return their life. the right thing to do is to at least bring it to the world. and let the child grow and choose their path, no matter how much they suffer or not, it is up to them to decide whether they prefer to live suffering or not, after most people who suffer in this world they prefer to continue living in it, otherwise only the happy on earth. If it cannot be adopted in your country it can be adopted in another, if you launch a public appeal someone will always appear from an NGO that takes care of minors willing to take in such a child. It is a selfish hypocrisy that exists in abortion. nothing justifies this practice. saying that the child has no consciousness is a lie after the fetus reacts During the abortion process, and even more so if it did not react, imagine killing a woman who is drugged until she loses consciousness, would it be because she did not feel the pain during death? Would this no longer be a crime in our society? I wouldn't let it Because even raping a baby who sometimes won't even remember the rape is considered a crime, just like abusing someone who is unconscious, even if they die during the abuse and never find out, after they die, that would be bad. same crime if any witness reported it. nafa justifies induced abortion. God does not have mercy on everyone, he has compassion on his saints and whoever he wants.

[@maryonah3344]

Do you know what PREGNANCY IS? LABOUR PAIN? AND THEN, WITH NO SUPPORT. I WILL NOT BRING A CHILD TO THIS WORLD 2 SUFFER 4MY UNPREPAREDNESS NEVER! GOD HAVE MERCY🙌EVERY CHILD DESERVE 2COME FROM A SANE AND SOUND MOTHER. Period!

[@SMadalena]

rape does not justify abortion, killing an innocent person for the sake of a victim is a crime and a serious sin, one should never sacrifice an innocent person with the justification of saving another even more so without consent, after all, no one can return their life. the right thing to do is to at least bring it to the world. and let the child grow and choose their path, no matter how much they suffer or not, it is up to them to decide whether they prefer to live suffering or not, after most people who suffer in this world they prefer to continue living in it, otherwise only the happy on earth. If it cannot be adopted in your country it can be adopted in another, if you launch a public appeal someone will always appear from an NGO that takes care of minors willing to take in such a child. It is a selfish hypocrisy that exists in abortion. nothing justifies this practice. saying that the child has no consciousness is a lie after the fetus reacts During the abortion process, and even more so if it did not react, imagine killing a woman who is drugged until she loses consciousness, would it be because she did not feel the pain during death? Would this no longer be a crime in our society? I wouldn't let it Because even raping a baby who sometimes won't even remember the rape is considered a crime, just like abusing someone who is unconscious, even if they die during the abuse and never find out, after they die, that would be bad. same crime if any witness reported it. nafa justifies induced abortion. God does not have mercy on everyone, he has compassion on his saints and whoever he wants.

[@luckygirltaylor952]

I love this show so much I watch all the ads fully just so you all can get your money! Thank you for bringing up these discussions!

[@jointhecruise]

This has to be the best comment we've ever received on this channel. This videos are so difficult to produce!!! especially in a place like Nigeria. God bless you! We won't stop! ❤️

[@Occ_okeosisii]

@@jointhecruiseI’ll start watching

[@titiannacharville2808]

Abortion is needed in certain situations whether it’s rape, incest, medical conditions or if the mother of the child is a child herself. The way the pro life side is talking is extremely incriminating towards the women who aren’t mentally or physically to have a child is saddening. And as a woman myself it’s even more disappointing.

[@akinibitoye7908]

Less than 1% of abortion come from rape. If you don't believe me go and check it out online. Tell me how it's justifiable to end life while the child is in the womb but someone suddenly wrong when it's outside the womb. Rape is a terrible thing but do we need to punish that child's life because of what the father did. Since pro choicers life to say use the rape argument do we need to only give abortion for rape victims because the pro choice people I know would say no and would argue for abortion in all cases.

[@akinibitoye7908]

Also regarding medical condition you can go and verify by many doctors as abortion is never used to save the woman's life when she is pregnant as abortion takes time before that child is killed and when the pregnant woman is in danger its stupid to do abortion because that woman would die before abortion even kills the child. What often happens is that the pregnant woman has a c section which is quick and easy to do. People need to do their own research before saying that abortion is used when the woman is at risk of losing her life when pregnant.

[@Angelikah1]

Let God decide that not a human. Refer to he’s word. I knew you before you where formed in your Mothers womb Jeremiah 1:5. You lot have the enemy deceiving you.

[@prettyk1d]

Because u got raped does not justify you killing an innocent child, if you dont want the child there is adoption or other methods to give someone else the responsibility, don’t deceive yourself

[@niyoleo]

@@prettyk1d Lmao. The funny thing is the same ppl who believe a woman that was r@ped should just have the baby and give it away for adoption don’t even go and adopt any of these parentless children. Na all talk no action dey go preach.

[@day_vid3606]

Ajeeeeeh I love that bald lady 😅😅😅😅😅 She dey give me joy shout out to the beard guy, he is super smart. And who opened the door to the studio for the confused lady that said 5yrs is removed for every life taken? Who let that toddler in???😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@lawosluka7234]

she was wrong in every single argument

[@oshamossai242]

😂😂😂

[@joXtea-]

As a young boy, I don't understand why A MAN is allowed to even TALK on a situation HE can't UNDERSTANDDD🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

[@natachauwimana1607]

Coz it takes 2 to tango. They have all the right to be there.

[@SteamyTVDU]

Do you think we should talk and make laws on criminals, or do we not understand/haven't been through lawbreaking so we cannot discuss them as a matter?

[@onokorame]

Because babies can't be made without men lol 😂

[@queenofthej]

It takes two to tango but then it takes only ONE to have it. Men abeg. For this one conversation in the whole world silence yourself. Just stay quiet 😂 abeg!

[@user-qq6br5pz4b]

I think the main argument pro abortionist give is “ What if she was raped” meanwhile rape isn’t even the number one reason abortion is big

[@faithipeha.3942]

She keeps saying give the child out, I will adopt.. madam how many kids have you taken cared of??? How many have you adopted? How much do you have that you think u can take care of how many kids for at least 10 years???

[@njuzyatemafac6994]

To me abortion should be legalize And those willing to undergo abortion should meet with a medical counselor (psychological therapy) to help them make better choice This will reduce the death rate and complications that comes with abortion

[@s.o.1699]

Absolutely, because women should be able to make informed decisions either way

[@Kingofthenet2]

I agree. If it isn’t legalised people may risk their health doing it illegally

[@akinibitoye7908]

Tell me how it's okay to do abortion but once the child is outside the womb you will be punished for killing them. Makes no sense. Even amongst people who are pro choice do you agree that we should should be allowed to kill a baby just before it's born?

[@fjack9508]

Women will continue to do abortions. Whether it is legalised or not... I know of many living in countries where it is illegal. So, I say make it legal where it is safer

[@tarzandaniel2770]

So, you're basically arguing that murdering the most innocent babies on earth should be legalized? Are you kidding me???

[@BasiraLawal-RN-BSN]

In islam, the fetus does not become a human soul until about 4 months. Abortion is permissible under certain circumstances. However it should not be used haphazardly or as a contraception tool. God forgives all sins once the one who commits the sin repents. There are remnants of sin, however, and those need to be addressed through therapy, and fostering a closer connection with God. I really enjoyed this episode.

[@zoe-mv6ji]

Isn’t it 40 days …

[@BasiraLawal-RN-BSN]

@@opocoyo No, please. It is 120 days equivalent to 4 months. Google is free. The Qur'an is as well.

[@BasiraLawal-RN-BSN]

@@zoe-mv6ji No, please. It is 120 days equivalent to 4 months.

[@jolaoshoomotoyosi7329]

Funny enough the same people that said you should keep the child will be the one to stigmatize you for it and you will be living with that trauma for life..Even the part that say's the father should dictate in either keeping it or not isn't right cuz that same guy will still leave you at the end of the day and you will carry the burden alone

[@queenofthej]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2142">35:42</a> WE ARE ALREADY IN AN INSANE SOCIETY!!!!!! Thank you my dear! Let’s stop acting like Nigeria is moving with sense.

[@lawosluka7234]

that's your justification for murder? how intelligent you are

[@blackbeauty5817]

This teacher guy loves to hear himself talk. Always claiming "moral justification." According to what moral theory? Until he can specify that he should keep quiet about moral justifications.

[@Chizzzyy]

Don't mind him, loud and wrong with his big grammar.

[@jazisajoke8688]

Oreofe is gorgeous and so educated! Would love to have a conversations with her more because she's so insightful.

[@cypriansunday21]

Insightful in what lol? Which one is she's gorgeous. What she said didn't even make sense

[@jazisajoke8688]

@@cypriansunday21 that’s your opinion if you’re anti abortion ofc you don’t agree lmao

[@cypriansunday21]

@@jazisajoke8688 If you admire someone who has little care of human life then it says something deep about you. You just want to have s*x and do abortions without filling guilty. Hence your desire to support her. Nothing about you supporting her is genuine. Nothing. You said She's gorgeous and insightful but you can't really mention one thing she said that's insightful.

[@eleosa7698]

Insight as in she said can make and take life ...hmm wetin musa no go see for gate

[@mariantenzagh8120]

Do you mean Rita? Because Oreofe didn't make any sense

[@somid7777]

I struggle with the argument at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1759">29:19</a> because in Nigeria at the moment our quality of life and the value placed on the everyday humans life is infinitesimal. The high rate of kidnapping, murders, armed robbery, and the plasé attitude of the people that lead us on these matters proves this. Our weakest, most vulnerable and sickly citizens aren’t cared for in the slightest. So can someone show us where this value is so we can see 😃

[@boochi7087]

👀👀 Who wan answer?

[@Amiebaybiee]

Thank you!! Abortion is a lesser evil. But If the government want to avoid abortion though they need to start from the root, the education system. Too many Schools in Nigeria dont teach about consent which is one of the reasons why women are being raped and considering abortion, Religious schools only teach about abstinence to prevent unwanted pregnancy instead of teaching about condoms and birth control, they also need to make contraceptives and condoms cheaper and more accessible for people to avoid having to go through an abortion. Too many children are hawking on the street in Nigeria or working as house help as such a young age because their parents couldn’t afford to have them and abortions arent legal🙄.

[@kosiudezue1730]

My own is that if u are bringing a child into this world be prepared to take care of it,and if u can't pls dont.

[@awelanimudau3752]

damn, imagine being the friend and hearing the person you trusted tell the world that you are a murderer.

[@jesseobaze8731]

For every life you take shorten your lifespan…there are serial killers out there either rotting in jail or enjoying their life in freedom how did their lifespan shorten 😂

[@justadaeze6322]

Just ignorance showing face there

[@EmemchatehOkadim]

The man with glasses took this debate too personal

[@mariantenzagh8120]

😂😂😂😂

[@favourrrr1998]

E be like say e mama wan abort am

[@ChallangeAcceptedd]

​@@favourrrr1998 favour 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@didimarcus277]

The fear of God is the beginning of WISDOM.

[@tootums]

comparing the r word to a sperm bank is diabolical.

[@faithipeha.3942]

In some developed countries, when you go to the gynaecologist to check if you’re pregnant, one of the first questions you’ll be asked is if you want to keep the baby and if not an option for abortion is immediately asked

[@sumaiya-ey5zc]

This is an amazing video as a foreign viewer Thankyou for the subtitles make it easier to see what they say!

[@jointhecruise]

You're welcome 😊

[@omotoshopeter7861]

This is a great content. Thanks for this Cruise. Please keep it up

[@nikeak]

Rita is such a lucid and informed speaker.

[@tarzandaniel2770]

No. She's not. Her points are laced with fallacies...

[@RegisteredHuman-pk3ed]

No uterus. No opinion.

[@Justkarenn]

😂😂

[@phantomghoul2846]

why?

[@theghostofumarskoolishere.4632]

@@phantomghoul2846 because you don’t make children simple until you give birth then you don’t have an opinion on the topic.

[@emmanueladeoye2959]

Sounds like a stupid opinion

[@KingofgraceSARA]

It takes spermatazoa also sooooo

[@blacklvrboy7683]

Wow, <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2745">45:45</a> was so vulnerable, I really appreciate how deep she was willing to get. Beautiful point.

[@KingOfGamesss]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="692">11:32</a> "Do you know how many hooligans are out there...do you know how many nuisance...do you know how many bad People?"<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="692">11:32</a> ---* <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="560">9:20</a> "Where has Morals gotten us?" <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="560">9:20</a>

[@konkarne2471]

'Do you know, for every life that you take, you shorten your lifespan' *silence* 'Can you prove it?' 🤣🤣🤣

[@day_vid3606]

Na when she Google it, i know say that girl na finished werey 😂😂😂😂😂😂 what a toddler 😂

[@Oath885]

Chaiii😂😂

[@chantalle2507]

that man has no interest in protecting the sanctity of human life, his ultimate desire is to force women to have children. all his arguments point towards that. how can you say both parties should have a say and in that same breath go on to say that if the woman doesn't want the child, the man should dictate to her that the child be kept? calling people ignorant and insane for wanting people to have a choice when it comes to unwanted pregnancies is absolutely wild behaviour

[@sunb6402]

Then use family planning than aborting

[@chantalle2507]

@@sunb6402 abortion can be part of family planning. If couples decide to have three children with three year age gaps between them for a multitude of reasons, they are well within their rights to opt for an abortion if it is in the way of whatever ultimate goal they want. I know someone who is married with twins and decided to have an abortion with the next pregnancy because it didn’t fit in their plan. This person later went on to have two more babies when they were ready. There are quite literally a plethora of reasons why people would opt for abortions. Also lots of people use contraceptives but still end up with unwanted pregnancies. I personally have no interest in being a parent in any capacity and I take steps towards that but if a pregnancy still happens, I’m going straight to the clinic.

[@journalforkeena]

@@sunb6402people using contraceptives and still get pregnant. Contraceptives don’t provide 100% protection from pregnancy

[@akinibitoye7908]

96% of biologist agree life begins at conception. (Go and check it out. Some studies say 97% or 94% but most say 96%) Tell me why it's not wrong to kill a baby in the womb but suddenly wrong when it's outside? Most abortions happen because people don't want to be responsible at all. They open their legs and know that there is chance that the baby will be born and go kill it. Most people that have abortion is due to both parties agreeing to sleep together and not rape. Rape is less than 1% of abortions. (If you doubt me check it yourself online). It amazement how pro choice people will say that oh abortion should be allowed for rape victims but yet won't be happy if only abortion was only made for those cases and also that these cases are a minority. If you want to argue for something don't be using something that is rare but use the moderaty.

[@flymingotv18]

He just wants to be right

[@aestheticallyayomide682]

I love this channel so much, every video is a high-level production, which is extremely impressive especially in Nigeria!

[@beckieobro8235]

This was a really really good watch. Living in the UK I feel so thankful for women’s rights and having control of our bodies. Countries need to remove religious beliefs from human rights.

[@_jessica.peters]

That last statement >>

[@sammyosifeso]

Religious beliefs was what brought about human right in the first place. Have you heard the story of how slavery was abolished in the USA

[@bimmer3081]

@@sammyosifeso have you heard the story about how slavery came to be in the united states? (Yes, christianity)

[@juliusfishman7222]

You a clown making up your own history , no sane person can say christianity is responsible for slavery ​@bimmer3081

[@oguntayoanjola3844]

Hello! I think you should make your videos available as audios also like podcast. It'll really gain you more popularity like the honest bunch

[@tolanikolade5819]

Thank you oreofe .. you've made a good point..

[@allstarmayor]

20 abortions multiply by 5 years is 100 years of her life gone already, the maths no clear

[@ekg891]

She's not a very smart person

[@nikeak]

Opener was so well cut!

[@playrenny]

so interesting. so important for community, discussions like this

[@pelumiolalere360]

I honestly love that a topic like this is being talked about.

[@zaynsprmcy6421]

even if you agree abortion is wrong or whatever, rape victims should not have to deal with that trauma for the rest of their lives. that’s not fair to them at all, it was already a situation they didn’t choose.

[@achonyeginika2195]

Okay? What about the child

[@Princess_Orla]

I agree. Abortion is wrong but in this case it should be allowed.

[@INOOR777]

@@achonyeginika2195 The child won't mind. Remember it won't know the dad. Unless the man claims the child & the woman. if he admits his wrong to the community maybe they can marry & get along. In any other case the child will hate the mum for not getting an abortion.

[@naomib9989]

@@INOOR777Why would anyone want to marry their rapist?

[@journalforkeena]

@@INOOR777imagine marrying your rapist, that’s another level of dysfunctional behavior!

[@danieladebajo7974]

I'm glad to see this channel is about to hit 50k subs, they really wanted to hit in Q1, but better late than never. Truly want to see them hit their new target of 100k before the end of H1.

[@jointhecruise]

❤️❤️❤️, thank you for your support! We’re almost there 🙏🏾. Now next is 100k 🌚🌚😊

[@danieladebajo7974]

​@@jointhecruiseI absolutely love your content, it's something I can truly relate with cos I'm a Nigerian. Rooting for this channel to grow much bigger.

[@reeya_ella]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1798">29:58</a> all these big English can be solved with proper counseling rather than stigmatization…Nigeria avoids any form of counseling at allllll costs and love to bask in fear

[@ibkdayo]

"every life you take shortens your life span" she thougth she cooked something there

[@ChallangeAcceptedd]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mubi27]

I love the way Oreofe explains these things👏🏾

[@vinceeee6728]

& Why would you keep a child out of INCEST ????

[@buuiikem]

Why should you engage in INCEST in the first place ?

[@KingofgraceSARA]

Agree!

[@Kingofthenet2]

Facts

[@aliceeyenor]

Oreofe God bless you, you spoke so well

[@mhizfidelia9598]

“In some cultures, including where I come from, abortion is considered very wrong. If someone has an abortion, there are beliefs that the person will suffer unusual consequences, such as barking like a dog. Additionally, the aborted child must be buried in the same way as an adult, complete with a ceremony, to prevent mental illness in the mother. Ultimately, I believe the decision to have an abortion should be a personal one. Thank you, I really enjoyed the show.

[@victorirekponor6858]

I believe that it’s not a black or white topic. There’s a lot of gray area. However, it should be legalized with policies to prevent individuals from abusing it. The benefits outweigh the demerit

[@scorpiojuice]

Thank you for your opinion on this

[@miss.sarahaugustine1008]

In abroad you can’t abort a 8 months pregnancy except it’s life threatening…you can willingly do it up to 3 months. Abortion should be legal but with some policies governing it.

[@pankyesjurmang6387]

The craziest point here was about the incest saying terminating the baby would solve the issue after stating that the lady loves making love to her dad😂😂 i now wonder what man would continue with a lady that loves making love to her dad even if she isn't pregnant for the father

[@kadijatomolara8733]

I like Rita sense of reasoning and the way she coordinate her speech

[@mariantenzagh8120]

She is so coherent and intelligent

[@LuthorexFit]

I was happy when the man mentioned that abortion leaves people with trauma as well. Most people dont know this, but when a woman aborts a child, the body doesn't just go back to normal... It continues to exhibit the signs of pregnancy for months, and the absence of the child leaves a mental scar.

[@whatsyourname948]

This needs to be the top comment.

[@user-ev5zg9pl8t]

bro, it needs to be done when it needs to be done

[@sikayeg2553]

Did she just compare rape pregnancies to sperm bank pregnancy? And who said women don’t die from child birth... how ignorant

[@antwigideon5677]

Can you imagine this fine boy? The whole argument is about Human beings taking the life of an innocent child while still in the womb. Where from egg, chicks, and hen. Moreover, it is human beings and other that eat eggs before they are hatched not the mother HEN. The whole thing is human beings should not take the life of another human being (abortion)

[@graciousepelle1463]

Equal rights is different from dictate

[@Sinmiwilliams]

Human life has no value in Nigeria at all. Constant kidnappings, killings in the north with the perpetrators still at large are evidences to this fact. These are fully grown adult humans who die like chickens on a daily basis. Mr teacher should go and sleep abeg. Oreofe was right in saying that all women were not designed for motherhood and should be forced or compelled into having kids they’re not equipped to handle, thereby perpetuating the vicious cycles of pain, trauma and brokenness. Our current society is a picture of what happens when kids are brought into this world without requisite preparations on their parents part. Let’s stop being sentimental and face facts here! Morality is too parochial a reason to bring a whole human into this world you don’t want. Children know they’re not wanted even when it’s not verbally articulated to them. Feelings of abandonment, rejection, and neglect show up in adulthood as depression and sundry other mental health situations. People will not stop having sex. That’s a given. Legalize abortion so that we stop losing our ladies and girls to unnecessary deaths on the table of quacks. Oreofe is very pragmatic! Very pragmatic! We bury our heads in the sand in this Nigeria and hide under the toga of religion and culture. It’s not helping any. Men have no say in what happens to our bodies abeg. They should shatap🙄

[@damioke6212]

Everyone is on fire 🔥🔥 I love this group

[@lyfrocket]

It should be a choice

[@BlueIvory4]

Correct. If you want to have abortion, get one. If not, don’t get one. That’s the liberal view

[@orejazzy1714]

Whose choice?

[@boochi7087]

That's it! That's all!! 💯

[@africanodyssey4805]

​@orejazzy1714 the one actually carrying the pregnancy

[@theghostofumarskoolishere.4632]

@@orejazzy1714the woman’s as it’s her body and her health on the line.

[@jazisajoke8688]

shorty at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1871">31:11</a> is so sheltered Oh My God! Why do war criminals live to 95 then?

[@ekg891]

Not sheltered, just dumb. She was trying to act like she read this information in a report when it was just some traditional healer who told her and she ate it up lol

[@thecurvysage]

The lady in the story she told would’ve lost 100years from her life lol

[@queenofthej]

This convo was the best by far!! Well done

[@jointhecruise]

Thank youuuuuu . We’re glad you love it !🥰

[@q_c2762]

I enjoyed this video 💯💯 Well done 👏🏼

[@Princess_Orla]

I think there should be eduction on family planning and abstinence. Abortion should be allowed in the case of rape, incest and where it threatens the mother’s life.

[@KingOfGamesss]

Also try Mutual-Masturbation (Look together...no touch)

[@mariantenzagh8120]

💯

[@Kingofthenet2]

Same

[@dollarmike7144]

I appreciate our progressive constitution in South Africa.

[@flyman2608]

"One of my super power as a woman is that I can give life and I can take it" Wicked people fill this earth. Well God will judge them in hell.

[@adebunmitimi3695]

We have scenarios where they advice pregnant women to evacuate theirs as well. As much as these people are trying to toughen up, pain is evident and cannot be passed on to someone else

[@InTrex00]

Uncle reminds me of Sam Loco character 😅

[@EmmanuelAjebitimi]

😅😅

[@chichioaks]

😂😂😂😂😂 right! Crazy.

[@Mflvids]

Oh What a life 😔.. All i can say is shout out to my parents ❤

[@hope.143]

Abortion is wrong,yes.However i believe it should be regulated and guided.Before the abortion counselling and therapy should be given before the abortion to understand the situation and to make an even more informed decision.

[@tracybannerman5666]

i am 1 min in , and i feel this is going to be some personal war than an intellectual conversation.

[@thedonutlady]

Oh my God you read my mind , both sides asides from the lady in wine or maroon made any sense

[@ejemeniboi1732]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1288">21:28</a> If you see fire, will you tell the fire to stop or leave where the fire is?

[@Imet18]

Wow! I didn't know that it was illegal in Nigeria!

[@pezyshelah8111]

Oreofe, Rita and Tony👍👍👍👍

[@ikechukwuanene1255]

The lady that said she met a woman who did 20 abortions. By her own calculations, each abortion is 5 years gone. Therefore, the woman has lost 100 years of her life... Was she very old-looking when both women met? 🤔

[@phayvorokparaobi4286]

I love Oreofe so much. I pray she finds true happiness. The girl in the gold braids should've stayed at home.