Joker | Canadian First Time Watching | Movie Reaction | Movie Review | Movie Commentary

[@mrgonzale0978]

Joaquin deserved this Oscar. this performance was one of his best.

[@user-il9ze9py8c]

Agreed. As dark as it is, this movie is pretty goddamn funny, and he does a great job of toeing that line.

[@aaronburdon221]

Ladder 49 is among my favorites of his, but he's had a lot of good ones. Gladiator of course, ladder 49, walk the line, the village, and joker. I haven't seen most of his others but I assume he's at least decent in them.

[@onclebob2178]

@@ThreadBomb 👍🏻

[@Link122]

have you guys not seen The Master? He's mesmerizing in it.

[@emperortime4907]

@@Link122 easily his best performance

[@dadougler]

I don't think he killed his neighbor. Him not killing the short guy proves that. Joker kills people in this movie that have wrong him, he is not just killing randomly.

[@quark12000]

Then he's not the Joker.

[@MasterBetty69]

@@quark12000 I mean at the end he kills his doctor, someone trying to help him. He didn't officially become Joker until he relished in the chaos dancing upon a car. The entire movie was his arc, & he wasn't fully transformed until the last scene. So, yeah.

[@mtnd02.06]

I'm sure he did, after all he barely knew her outside of his fantasy so killing her wouldn't be out of the question. Meanwhile he did know the little guy from his job and he was sympathetic to Arthur

[@shrøømpizza-u1t]

@@quark12000 yeah you missed the point of the movie then.

[@quark12000]

@@shrøømpizza-u1t Please tell me then.

[@aceldamia9114]

There are a million Joker origin stories. None of them are canon, at least more than any other one. It's part of the mystery and allure of Joker.

[@ravissary79]

The Red hood one is about as Canon as you can get.

[@5calambres]

@@ravissary79 i think you are talking about "the killing joke" and that is the only animated movie not based on a comic. But as it turns out his comedian background is only fictional and he sais "if i have to have a past, i prefer it to be multiple choice"

[@CaptLoquaLacon]

It's part of the merchandising strategy by DC comics, along with all the alternate universes and alternate versions. Marvel aren't much better either, they both decided to keep selling new stuff based on old brands instead of trying to create anything fresh...

[@GarmrsBarking]

@@5calambres the killing joke is most definitely a comic... Written by Alan Moore... But the batgirl part in the movie is not from the comic...

[@ravissary79]

@@5calambres the red hood backstory, the idea that there was this crime spree scam using innocent people kidnapped and compelled to do it while wearing the red hood outfit: this lore must exist outside a closed plot loop of the killing joke, because it's what is referenced by Jason Todd when he takes the name Red Hood, an ironic reference to the injustice which transformed him, while backhandedly referencing the one who killed him. Also it's pretty much accepted that that plot of The Killing joke, or at least plot point touchstones, are Canon. Just not the implied ambiguous ending or the total mental destruction of Gordon.

[@AdmiralZhou]

I love that the Joker has always been an unreliable narrator/storyteller. You don't know if he's telling the truth or not. Both this movie and The Dark Knight (different stories of how he got the scars). Amazing movie and great reaction!

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

Yupp, like it's always 11:11

[@thegrimreaper990]

“I'm not exactly sure what happened. Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another... If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice!"

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

@@ThreadBomb that is a real option hahaha

[@Dusty2455433]

I was having an interesting time trying to understand the story in the theater when I was stoned and not familiar with the Joker story

[@AleksPizana]

It stands to reason that according to his version: Thomas Wayne and the entire Gotham city are all arseholes and turned him into what he is.

[@NotSuperSerious]

From a storytelling perspective, making him wayne's son would be cliche and super weak (soap opera stuff, really)... but leaving it ambiguous whether it's real or not, just to get the audience in the character's shoes with that messed up doubt, that makes it pretty good.

[@12thLevelSithLord]

My favorite thing they do to give the audience the idea that Arthur is Wayne's son is when he meets Bruce. They look exactly the same, down to the clothes they're wearing.

[@work1284]

Also, Joker has always been older than Batman by at least a couple of decades so for Bruce to be 10 and Joker to be 30-35 it makes perfect sense canonically.

[@gergopiroska5749]

I think this isn't the Joker who fights the batman but a man who inspired the joker that Bruce fights later

[@moonakieater2308]

@@work1284 you gotta excuse some people because they think that the most recent story is the real story of Batman. They don't know the history 🤣🤣🤣

[@work1284]

@@moonakieater2308 A true crisis on infinite earths, lol.

[@morphman86]

That fridge scene was Phoenix going full method acting. He was supposed to create a mess in the kitchen, but when he threw the stuff out of the fridge, he just decided to step inside. It looked good, so they kept it in.

[@shanewillis316]

The comic book your referring to George is called The Flashpoint Paradox. Barry Allen Flash goes back in time to save is mom from dying, but makes a different future/present. Bruce is killed. Thomas becomes Batman and Martha becomes The Joker.

[@mrs7195]

This movie hit suprisingly hard. It bothered me for a loong time after I watched it. Which is a hallmark of a great movie. One of the best depictions of a deep mental illness in cinema, imho.

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

Same composer as Chernobyl. And the mirror dance was improv. It's when genius meets genius really. What a movie.....

[@Trepanation21]

While the mirror dance was *originally* improv, what you see in the film is not. The improv happened, they liked it, and then filmed a deliberate take of the idea that was improv'd.

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

@@Trepanation21 ahh, didn't know. It's rather a special scene:) I did see them improv the show entrance like 20+ times, was funny

[@DraggorLecanth]

As a person who has been hit by multiple cars, the immediate response is to get away from the danger area. After that you assess the situation and then the pain sets in so you assess what is wrong with you. Thankfully the worst I got was a sprained wrist and an untreatable dent in my upper right thigh, but you are right with your reaction. Getting hit by a car at any speed is no walk in the park.

[@rayromero6795]

The line “What kind of coward would do something that cold-blooded? Someone who hides behind a mask. Someone who is envious of those more fortunate than themselves, yet they’re too scared to show their own face.”, hits so hard. The irony in Thomas Wayne’s statement is striking, especially when considering the future of Bruce Wayne as Batman. Bruce, much like the Joker, becomes a figure who hides behind a mask, driven by a sense of loss and a desire for justice. However, unlike the Joker, Bruce uses his masked persona to protect rather than to harm, but there’s still that underlying theme of envy-envy of those who can live normal, peaceful lives without the burden of a dual identity. The duality between the Joker and Batman, both using masks (literal or metaphorical) to navigate their pain and sense of purpose. I like to believe Thomas Wayne’s words unintentionally foreshadow his son’s path, highlighting the blurred line between heroism and villainy, and how society can mold both in different directions.

[@ReverendJocko]

This is one of my favorite films that I never want or need to watch again. Very rare for a movie to make me feel so depressed and uncomfortable yet still love it.

[@DarthMohammedRules]

Kinda like Requiem For a Dream.

[@albertgein3082]

I like how George sum's up the entire movie at the beginning - "ok so we have a sad clown"😅

[@fallenhero3130]

I'm genuinely surprised you guys knew so little about this movie before going in. I can understand when it's an older film, but this was only from 2019 and it was a HUGE phenomenon; imagery from it invaded pop-culture so fast.

[@The3nd187]

Was surprised they didn't immediately recognize "The Joker stairs"

[@pobstrel]

Agree. Even if they haven't seen it before there is no way they could have avoided the amount of press and attention it got.

[@justaguy6129]

For a dark movie this was pretty comedian friendly. Gary Gulman was on stage at the club. Sam Morrill was on the TV and Mark Maron was DeNiros assistant. There may have been others that I missed.

[@abc123tiktok]

Had my own emotional roller coaster watching you guys react. Started off 😊 but then drop news that they are making a sequel to film that really feel like should stay in its own isolated story to this 😔 Hollywood just can't leave things alone.

[@Melkor1205]

To me the best idea of this movie is that the jokers laugh is an illness and he can't control it. Awesome!

[@KayosHybrid]

It’s a real condition, I knew about it before the movie 👍 a genius must have suggested exploring head trauma in childhood for Joker

[@BillTheScribe]

Fun(?) Fact: In the US, in the early 1980's, federal funding for state mental hospitals was cancelled. People were cut off completely and left with nowhere to go. This is more of a dramatized documentary that a comic book movie.

[@sc1338]

They were terrible facilities honestly, but maybe they did some good

[@Skrubb_Lord]

What's that old saying? "When you're young you want to be the hero, when you're old you understand the villain."

[@xyzzyx7812]

You guys missed the Zeitgeist when this movie came out. It was in late 2019. All those crowds at the end looked like summer of 2020.

[@johnnyd1790]

Loved how you 2 reacted to this movie, one of the better reactions out there to one of the best movies ever made, with a rather small budget. Can't wait for part 2, although it was meant as a stand alone movie, it will never be as good but that doesn't stop my curiosity in finding out where the author is gonna take this!😃 PS: The neighbour girl(s) aren't dead, he never killed nice people or people he liked which are usually both (except his mother that he realised both not his mother as well as the source of his mental illness), 4 example Garry.

[@samuraisempi1883]

You are right that there is a universe where Martha and Bruce die in the alley and Thomas becomes batman but he DOES NOT hold back at all

[@Ankka939]

Joaquin Phonenix is great as Joker. I'm glad he won an Oscar for it. React to Batman (1989) and Batman Returns.

[@scotthewitt258]

Something subtle that points to Arthur being an unreliable narrator is the shooting on the subway. Instead of it being a continuity mistake that his five shot S&W revolver shoots at least twice that many times without reloading, it is another clue that "his" world is disconnected from the "normal" world. It's not like his gun is like the guns in the old Westerns that "shot all day". Arthur just remembers stuff and even perceives stuff "wrong".

[@pandolfosc]

A great film about mental illness. The age makes sense. In the original 90s film, the age between Keaton and Nicholson. And the origin story was that Bruce's dad was shot by Joker, and Bruce was just a kid. In this, the killer was inspired by the Joker and not the Joker himself.

[@marleybob3157]

I think this was the first time two different actors (Ledger and Phoenix) played the same character and won the Academy Award for Best Actor. That said, IMHO Mark Hamill is the very best Joker as he has been voicing him in one iteration or another since 1992. Hell, he did The Joker in 2019 in "Scooby-Doo and Guess Who?" so he's been at it for nearly 30 years!!!!

[@jessemetzger8336]

The movie is an ode to 70's NYC movies. DeNiro is updating his role in, The King of Comedy. You guys should watch that, Jerry Lewis is great.Also you guy should look up Bernard Getz. He was a meek guy that purposefully went on the subway to get mugged and shoot somebody. The subway scene is an analogue.

[@shakawhenthewallsfell8570]

I was skeptical of this movie when it first came out, thinking "how can this match tour-de-force that was Ledger's joker", but holy shit....! Joaquin Phoenix did an amazing job.

[@maximilianschmid9890]

"Vhat's mit all tha beepr sjllabls flaschinh?"

[@fakecubed]

I loved this reaction. Your facial expressions were as fascinating to watch as Arthur Fleck's.

[@AleksPizana]

When the most criminally insane character in DC tells the story: he's actually quite convincing. This is his version of events on how he became like that. Everything is twisted and doesn't make sense. One detail that a lot of people overlook is the fact that the guy that kills the Waynes has the same mask that he's being seeing all along and later gets on the subway, while he's being chased. He tosses it of course, but this guy also says the same line that Joker used to kill the TV host minutes ago. You should watch the animated movie "Flashpoint Paradox" based on the "Flashpoint" comicbook event

[@jonrazo7912]

It's the flashpoint story. Flash rewrites time and a side effect is that Thomas Wayne is batman, Bruce is dead, and the trauma turned Martha into the Joker.

[@christopherkaylor2940]

What was the story Rorschach told in Watchman, the guy goes to the doctor saying he was depressed and the doctor tells him to see Parachi (sp) and the guy says "I am Parachi"

[@jackhead8]

I wanted to point out after Arthur shoots Murray, his laughter is more relaxed and comfortable. Not an infliction anymore.

[@TimedRevolver]

That alternate story was Flashpoint. And that whole fiasco is bananas.

[@psychoween]

I don't care for the superhero genre, but I loved this film. The Joker didn't set out to be a super-villain. He didn't set out to be a symbol of a movement. He was a sick man in a sick society and everything happened to him. Frankly, I was sad to hear of a sequel. I fear he will become just another comic book super-villain, to get lost in the clutter of comic book movies. I think this is a far superior character study and I hate to see it dumbed down to another action film.

[@chad_holbrook]

George, I skip those scenes, too... if I can. I'm the same way.

[@BadWisdom523]

If you want more absurdly committed Phoenix - ‘I’m Still Here’ is wild

[@ajlynch5235]

the best part about Joaquins Joker is how he always seems to try to control his grin when he cant control his laugh

[@Degenerick]

You get what you effin deserve!!! *clicks the like and subscribe buttons*

[@Chriswallace0405]

Just say fuck. What are you like 5?

[@NaihanchinKempo]

Pseudobulbar Affect is what it's called, stress makes him laugh and cry when under stress. He can't control it

[@goatbrother8718]

I really love this take on Joker, even it isn’t DCEU canon and it kinda is a ripoff of DeNiro‘s Taxi Driver, but that’s fine. Phoenix did an amazing performance Watched it several times and always feel unwell.

[@guitarman8462]

The Robert De Niro thing , you had have to seen " Taxi Driver " & " The King Of Comedy " to understand .

[@robertwest4843]

George you are correct. There is storyline called flashpoint paradox in which Bruce dies and Thomas Wayne becomes batman. A fooling brutal batman. There is a pretty good animated adaptation of flashing point paradox which you guys might enjoy reacting to! Would recommend

[@ricearoni744]

Dude I just noticed that the guy that gave him the gun is Billy Childress from True Detective

[@spandanbhowmik5717]

The timeline where Thomas becomes Batman is called Flashpoint.

[@JKM395]

There is no reason to believe that Arthur's neighbor is dead or hurt in any way. When she came into the room, she said, "I think you're in the wrong apartment..." Nothing indicates that he did anything more than sit on her couch, gesture towards her and leave. He also didn't look roughed up when he was walking away from the scene. She knew he lived in the building, and he didn't do anything to threaten anyone but himself in that scene. Of course, you could always be right, given the movie we're discussing, but I really don't see any indication of that. Well done to you both on this one. There's nothing I can say about this movie that hasn't already been said. Have a good one all.

[@Chess613]

There are shoutouts to previous movies (Taxi Driver, King of New York) that this movie references. It's an excellent movie - glad you guys enjoyed it.

[@hackapump]

I don’t think the neighbour is dead. Arthur wasn’t a psychopath who simply killed for the sake of killing. He was more like a self-styled vigilante: He murdered only people he considered bad or evil, and he clearly didn’t feel the neighbour had done him wrong in any way. I think he just left her apartment after being asked to. Maybe she called the cops, maybe she didn’t, but they probably had more more urgent matters given the simmering ”clown revolution” in the streets.

[@thewrestlingphantom2806]

He was laughing at the end because he had nothing but a horrible life being abused so bad he ended up having brain damage and in constant pain everyday and taking care of a mom that let that abuse happen. now Bruce will feel his pain and know what it's like to loose everything

[@xDasMottex]

what you mention with thomas wayne as batman is the flashpoint comic story.

[@coreyhendricks9490]

One Of Todd Phillips' Masterpieces Ever Made, Cool Reaction As Always Simone & George, You Both Take Care

[@pete_lind]

Watch King of Comedy 1982 , where Robert De Niro plays the delusional character , Jerry Lewis is the TV star ... just saying thats the inspiration .

[@Phoenixdark1]

This was the best reaction to this movie I've seen. Good job, guys.

[@paullamb3109]

Nobody knows the Jokers origin and that’s the point, just revel in Heaths, Joachim and indeed Jacks performance’s and indeed Lon Chaney in the Man who Laughed which inspired the Joker, i think it was Lon Chaney, I may be wrong but all of there performances were award winning 🥇

[@0lyge0]

The story George is referring to is called Flashpoint. Flash goes back in time to prevent his mother dying but this causes drastic changes to the timeline. Thomas Wayne becomes a brutal, gun toting Batman and Martha goes insane when Bruce dies in her arms in crime alley and becomes the Joker. It's a great story with a really moving ending. There is a DCAU film that is quite good as well.

[@andygluehere8266]

She probably dead, but he left the kid alive, that explains the ambulance lights in the background after that scene.

[@gregjones861]

It was fun to see you two get affected (assaulted?) by the harrowing and gruesome turns this tension tornado takes. I loved it but was shaking afterwards. And honestly a little freaked out how much I could still somewhat empathize with his feelings toward the world.

[@barbarusbloodshed6347]

That society made Joker. Joker made Batman. Makes perfect sense.

[@The80sWolf_]

This movie is weird to me. The more I analyze it, the less I like it. But when I rewatch it, I like it as much as I used to again.

[@TacticalSandals]

The thumbnail from this will haunt my dreams. It reminds me of "We happy few". And whats with all the Tyler Dergen audio beeps?

[@zahidansary]

According character and its judgements he shouldn’t have killed the neighbor..sheemed like a nice mother by her room and her instict at saving the kid when she saw joker and freaked .. opposite to his own mother

[@cliffd8380]

Even in the comics, Joker is much much older than Batman. He lived a complete life as a normal guy with mental illness. Cartoons tend to take away years away for Joker for some reason. I guess they don't think seniors should be that 'lively'.

[@PillTruth]

19:54 he’s not gonna hurt him is he ? Like seriously what happened to common sense Bruce Wayne literally grows up to be Batman and hasn’t experienced any darkness or anything until after his parents got killed

[@sdaniels160]

The Joker had no reason to kill his neighbor. She didn't do anything to him. At that point, before he became full Joker, he wasn't killing randomly. Remember that he let the one coworker liver for being nice to him.

[@paareth]

I only watched this recently because I always said after heath ledger who could play Joker, and left it alone, well Joaquin Phoenix did a great job, and I was glad I watched it.

[@christophervillalba4139]

In the alternate universe where Bruce is shot, Thomas is Batman, Martha becomes the Joker.

[@deadsetondreams1988]

I absolutely love and adore this film. Heath Ledger and Joaquin Phoenix's Joker's can't even be compared since they are different versions and I love both for varying reasons. The only part I hated about this specific Joker film was the beginning scene when he had his sign stolen and was getting beaten up. The kids annoyed the ever-loving heck out of me, literally saying everything they were doing. "we got the sign, go, go, go, let's go, come on, come on, let's go, come on, take his sign, beat him up, harder, harder, beat him up, take his stuff, kick him, kick him." I didn't need the repeated narration over the entirety of the scene for what we were already watching them do. That is my only nitpick that took me out of the film. It felt like they were excited they got a role in the film, so they wanted as many lines in it as they possibly could squeeze in. If they varied what they said more, it would have been perfectly fine, but they sounded like a broken record stuck on repeat mode until the scene ended.

[@BackCountryRunaway]

yes, you can just get up after getting hit by a car in some instances. i got ran over by a car when i was 16. i went straight through the windshield though. i got up, shook it off and went to work two hours later and never seen a doctor. today, im in pain a lot. and also hurt my back while framing houses. So now i just live teaching primitive skills and hardly getting by. but yes. you can.

[@jessecortez9449]

There's a theory that none of what we say happened. It's all delusions made up in Arthur's mind while he is locked away in Arkham Asylum. The clown on the wall as he's banging his head on the door window is the only time shown on any clock seen on screen. He could be remembering events but since he also makes up a relationship with his neighbor than his recollections couldn6be trusted as happening either. It's a layer of story that makes the last scene make a bit more sense with the change in visual tonality and the kind of looney tunes vibe as he walks/runs through the hallway.

[@paareth]

When you said his transformation is complete, almost, I don't think the joker transformation is fully complete until he gets his gang, which is a big part of him, almost as crazy as he is and willing to do almost anything. That and Harley Quinn, so maybe we get her origin story next, with Joaquin Phoenix playing the lead still in the asylum! Could throw in a few smaller roles for the gang members to flesh them out, have batman just starting out and we've got a sequel!

[@chloe-historyandgames]

she’s right they’re brothers.. and no he didn’t kill the neighbour

[@russellward4624]

Its so interesting how many people don't want to accept he's not Thomas Wyane's son.

[@unxprienced9548]

Bonus Fun Fact: Joaquin based his laugh off of actually studying people with PBA!

[@GhostDrummer]

Oh, I can’t wait for this reaction…y’all are so awesome to watch reacting to movies.

[@donkfail1]

You can also see it as the original DC story of Batman is told from the perspective of Wayne's Gotham. Bruce probably never even saw Arthur's side of the city before he became Batman, but he knows that's where his parent's killer came from, and he goes on protecting *his* city from the criminals of Arthur's Gotham. If we assume that Arthur becoming Joker is just the beginning, from his POV, is Batman or Bruce Wayne any better than Thomas ever was? Wouldn't he oppose Batman for the same reasons that parts of the city at this point is rising up and causing mayhem? In this Joker's mind he's probably fighting for a good cause, opposing injustice and making a statement for the unheard and unseen. Classic Joker knows he's the bad guy, but a Joker that think he's the good guy sounds even scarier. Then he becomes an idealist that uses any means to fight evil. That's what is usually called a terrorist by the enemy.

[@dannybryant6273]

How or where do you get the clips from the movie/show that you include in your videos?

[@robbayern529]

Thomas Wayne Batman is in the flashpoint paradox universe which was created when the flash went back in time to save his mom and changed the timeline there is a flashpoint movie you guys should check out

[@NaihanchinKempo]

Look up the comic called Batman The Killing Joke.

[@velazquezn]

I think the movie is inspired to be in 1986. In 17:06 There you can ready "Photos of disaster in Ukraine" and I think is a reference to Chernobyl.

[@geoffmason7215]

I agree with Simone Batman and Joker brothers...making Thomas Wayne an asshole explains so much about Jokers background and Bruce's sheltered upbringing allows him to become Batman....thank you for the reaction by the way I think you're both GREAT

[@alaskanrobert5204]

I wasn't a joker fan. But movie does an awesome job showing how a good man cracks, decending into madness and becomes the prince of crime

[@cheetos1231000]

i watched this in the theater when it came out. this movie is incredible

[@dickiewayne]

Like she said, they might be brothers actually. Because Penny said she's signed some papers that sent by Thomas Wayne. Maybe he was trying to cover it up. We'll never know. They never made it so clear in the movie.

[@joekerr7975]

"The worst part of having a mental illness is people expect you to behave as if you don't" Arthur Fleck/Joker 2019

[@samhain1894]

Arthur has Reactive Attachment Disorder.

[@MrFredstt]

I've always had an interesting reaction to statements like this. On one, yes, they are ill and should have some leeway but I've also seen people use that as an excuse to get away with being an asshole

[@oeheaven]

@@MrFredstt yes addicts do the same thing as well as others. Only takes a few people to f it up before it becomes the standard.

[@sproductionsinc]

@@MrFredstt Lots of assholes, but you can't overgeneralize. Society makes good people feel like shit enough. It's just like how people assume having a mental illness means you'll be violent.. we're more at risk being the victims OF violence.

[@BarryHart-xo1oy]

That is such a profound and bittersweet statement.

[@Hapsard]

You guys nailed one thing about this movie to a tee - it feels like you're intruding on something deeply personal in the beginning to the point of being uncomfortable. Amazing writing/acting/directing! ... not a movie to break out for a movie night, though 😅

[@adansoto5974]

The camera work when he's inside his home reminds me of shaky cam, so close and the swaying movements. Makes it feel so personal as you mentioned.

[@albertgein3082]

Very visceral

[@Asehpe]

When is it ever appropriate? And yet it is a masterpiece.

[@takeoutartist]

Not only does he not kill people who are nice to him, but he never has his laughing seizure after killing someone. He’s calm

[@MaoKatz]

About Sophie's final destiny, Lawrence Sher, Joker cinematographer, said in an interview: "We wanted to make the interpretation of the real versus what’s not real, a part of the viewer’s experience. For instance, his relationship to Sophie is a fantasy to him. Some people have asked me, ‘Was she killed?’ [Director Todd Phillips] makes it clear she wasn’t killed. Arthur is killing people who’ve wronged him in a certain way, and Sophie never wronged him"

[@flatebo1]

Well, she does have insane luck powers, so ...

[@YarMazoy]

@@flatebo1 Luck is not a superpower!

[@mage1439]

@@YarMazoy Yes, it is.

[@slimbrady6691]

@@mage1439 Let's meet in the middle and say no it isn't.

[@tonyrossell832]

@@slimbrady6691 yes it is

[@rodeobobcat]

The script has some interesting details: "This story takes place in its own universe. It has no connection to any of the DC films that have come before it. We see it as a classic Warner Bros. movie. Gritty, intimate and oddly funny, the characters live in the real world and the stakes are personal. Although it is never mentioned in the film, this story takes place in the past. Let's call it 1981." So, a sequel may be in the works, but don't expect it to tie into any of the other DC movies.

[@solezeta1314]

I think it's pretty much confirmed that he spared the neighbor. She never did anything mean to him and barely engagaged small talk in the elevator. Remember why he spared Gary? Because he was the only one at his work who treated him nice.

[@carsonwentz8301]

My questions is was he really adopted. It's very possible someone that rich could fake adoption papers.

[@patchwilliamson]

​@@carsonwentz8301Considering the doctor that signed off on all the paperwork is a villain with known ties to the mob in the comics, I feel pretty comfortable in saying he is Thomas Wayne's son

[@cliffd8380]

It was only confirmed after feminist groups actually protested the movie. It was meant to imply since he wasn't questioned then it means it was no victim alive to file a report. I believe that is one of the scenes they had to redo after focus groups. So they left it as ambiguous but yeah.

[@sproductionsinc]

@@cliffd8380 No. The director confirmed it. It wouldn't fit with his character to kill her. Shut up & stop lying, troll lol

[@zablak689]

Nah...he killed her...he said that gary was the "only one" who was nice to him

[@tylerdurden9083]

One of the few times I'm satisfied with the academy award decision. Joaquin Phoenix NAILED IT

[@17thknight]

@@danholmesfilm good God, no kidding. But to be fair, if he got one for every deserving performance then he'd get it every year he makes a movie.

[@JasperAyeee]

i love the subtle detail of the use of stairs in this film. at the beginning, we witness Arthur climb UP many stairs, and slowly through the course of the movie, the director decides to only show Arthur descending those same stairs, as if to showcase his mental state -- UP when trying to be an upright, moral citizen.. DOWN when he is spiraling into chaos. and in the final act Arthur is literally dancing down them. super clever.

[@KayosHybrid]

It also displays his sense of struggle and exhaustion versus his euphoria letting go of behaving correctly and ethically, he’s no longer burdened by etiquette, law or ethics and can dance his way around town with minimal effort

[@CharaxterSelext]

In that comic you were talking about at the start, bruce wayne dies in the alley, thomas wayne becomes Batman, and Martha Wayne goes insane over the death of her son and becomes the joker

[@GarmrsBarking]

Flashpoint...

[@nighttimejackable]

Wow you guys are so empathetic, it's actually really endearing. You guys are awesome. 👍🏼

[@hanskneesun123]

It fascinates me to see some of the emotional responses and empathy where my generation would not give it a second thought, not complaining, it's refreshing to get a different point of view on some of the classics.

[@Ahzpayne]

Their reaction to the movie made me far more uncomfortable than the movie itself.

[@mrg0th1er83]

It's called being human. Well I guess some part of the world just squash humanity out of people. Like a lot of places in the USA.

[@CineBingeReact]

Thanks Hector ^-^

[@nighttimejackable]

@@CineBingeReact You're welcome 👍🏼

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

Joaquin: all i have are negative thoughts Leto: All i have are negative reviews

[@kikiaswin]

The director stated that the neighbor was not dead. By the way, I think at that point, Arthur still killed people who were mean to him.

[@Shawn-rq4py]

Joaquin lost 52lbs for this role and “Joker” was set in 1981

[@Hey_Jamie]

I cannot fathom how Simone doesn’t go insane having the earphones over her hair over her ears. Lol

[@mage1439]

They both have that going on.

[@44.caliberbrainsurgery63]

I do it all the time without issue. You seem to be the odd one out because I’ve never heard anyone say this.

[@robertombricen7966]

Oh yes, really don't know how she can do it, I can't, it feels weird and the sound of the hair between the ear and the headphones...

[@irollerblade13]

@Bu8813z I do the same its actually more comfy depending on your headphones and muffles high pitch noises

[@Tazza19931]

Yeah I've always thought that too.

[@menotu000]

The sad part about this film, more than anything, is this is a reflection of how things work with mental health in the USA in real life.

[@ninawildr4207]

Yep

[@Martin-88]

And that society will be like this within the next few years.

[@Martin-88]

@@Bentzel75 Well that's possibly one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.

[@Martin-88]

@@Bentzel75 Plenty of people are from broken societies and don't resort to awful behaviour.

[@brandonh.6956]

@@Bentzel75 its fine to have empathy for broken people but those who don't change and continue to hurt others have only themselves to blame. I come from a severely abusive backround and was raised by two mentally ill Narcissistic sociopaths for parents. They had plenty of time to change and get the help that they needed but they chose to let whatever happened to them in their past justify their abuse and evil acts and continued to be this way for decades. My point is you can either get yourself the help you need continue down a path of self destruction.

[@ajlynch5235]

the uncontrollable laughter is a real disease which I learned off of grey's anatomy and that show never lies lol

[@fynnthefox9078]

*condition, not disease.

[@ajlynch5235]

@@fynnthefox9078 ah truth

[@johnbrookes4892]

when the young Bruce Wayne slides down his playground pole - thats a nod to the 60s Batman TV series where Batman had a 'batpole' he'd slide down into the batcave