Joker VS Giorno (Persona VS JoJo's Bizarre Adventure) | DEATH BATTLE! REACTION!!!

[@RedLordOfAlagadda]

The funny part is that Joker was pretty much *universally* agreed to win. No one thought Giorno had a chance. In the G1 blog - the most respected scaling site on the internet - the members voted 11 to 1 in favor of Joker.

[@RangeCMYK]

The main point of discussion was Revert to Zero. No one knew exactly if Joker could bypass it, or what interpretation of it DB would use. But the main fuel towards Sinful Shell bypassing RtZ is because of the Omnipotent Orb's description, and I guess no one really went looking for a random item's flavor text.

[@ToocoolSkeletor]

When the Tik Tok community are the only ones betting on a character, that character is fucked.

[@KarpJeff]

Reading the G1 blog was so funny this time. They had Joker being able to scale to 7D guys at minimum while being able to match and exceed GER's speed with like 7 win cons while Giorno had none

[@justincarbaugh596]

Hence a boring MU, Joker sucks

[@xzkilerymax8395]

@@justincarbaugh596 wrong

[@GhostlyGhost333]

Huh. I guess he doesn’t pay attention to things does he? Joker had the outs needed. Just requires the watcher to pay attention.

[@wojciechwerner8787]

Yes the moment they mentioned that this bullet works against reality warping I suspected that it will overcome GER.

[@Hillwisekid]

He never saw it coming. I'll see myself out.

[@Domination-yv1ct]

“Checkmate” -Joker

[@sanstheskeleton3766]

Joker cans Heal Be immune to physical Be immune to magic I forget if that was a thing been awhile seen last played it Has the role of trickster that rebels against everything that could also mean reset everything to 0 meaning he might've not needed the recharge

[@Frost_Winterfall]

@@sanstheskeleton3766 Satanael resists all types of attacks, except curse, which it absorbs. It also comes packed with Survival Trick, which would allow Joker to survive an ambush through time a second time from Requiem, and Tyrant's Mind which would add a bit more damage onto the Sinful Shell already. Joker with Satanael is strong af, and he isn't even the strongest persona user to exist (debatably)

[@ajn_rules_5074]

"Sinful Shell, a bullet made from the 7 deadly sins that can piece even a god" GET F*CKED GER! I'm playing, i'm just so happy Joker won!

[@sanstheskeleton3766]

Joker cans Heal Be immune to physical Be immune to magic I forget if that was a thing been awhile seen last played it Has the role of trickster that rebels against everything that could also mean reset everything to 0 meaning he might've not needed the recharge

[@Sam_49362]

9:08 this is not mentioned in there, but Personas can also be summoned on the real world, but it's harder than in the metaverse

[@sleep5329]

Finally someone said it. Persona users always have it. The issue is their respective worlds make it easier

[@Sam_49362]

@@sleep5329 I thought it was common knowledge tbh, but a lot of fans of Giorno use to say that Personas only work in the metaverse

[@alimuhammad7370]

At least someone knows a lot of people dont seem to know this for some reason

[@Hyperneosonic97]

Granted, the conditions _are_ a lot more stringent, and for Joker, he effectively can't, as he has neither an Evoker nor the intense training to summon a Persona outside the Metaverse or similar areas without one.

[@LeviathanGamer799]

It is also canon that Joker (from the real world) can take opponents into the Metaverse if they aren’t there already, at least that’s what Smash Bracket told me

[@S0dapop583]

What’s funny is that they lowballed the ever loving hell out of Joker. Joker not only has access to sinful shell, but he has access to several more almighty type moves, without even needing satanael. Joker also has skills that allow him to nullify, reflect, or absorb certain damage types, so if joker had null physical or a persona that nullified physical, then Giorno has no way of dealing any damage. You could argue that the damage reflection by GE giving life is almighty damage, but even then he has access to several types of healing spells, and has other skills that allow him to passively recover. I know that DB didn’t give him these things to make the fight seem “close”, but put some respect on my boy Joker and give him his actual skill set

[@hunterjohnson7796]

satanael isnt summonable by joker by himself in canon. it literally takes all of tokyo to summon him. not to mention almight attacks are not reality warping attacks. they are NEVER said to be this reality destroying and warping ability, they can literally just straight up miss. this is just joker glaze. and this is coming from a pretty heavy smt stan. omnipotent orb is an item, not an ability. If that were the case, divine pillar would be something that reality warping doesnt touch because it halves all damage including almighty.

[@Trickyman477]

Myriad truth myriad truth myriad truth

[@yourboylos2532]

@@hunterjohnson7796 Go to the persona compendium and Satanael is there joker has the ability to summon it after the fight with Yaldabaoth.

[@vick7868]

​@@hunterjohnson7796I mean, Satanael becomes an accessible Persona you can get from the Velvet Room during the third semester, so youre just kinda wrong. Plus, even if you dont buy him being anle to use Sinful Shell the way they presented it, the World arcana gives him the power to do so at all times. Joker wins, case closed.

[@flameknightdragon]

@@vick7868 not really. GER broke fate so it does the same thing the World arcana users do.

[@TwiMil2008]

23:23 The power of friendship is always enough. 😌

[@flaremawile726]

8:17 Oh, yeah, you can do that. The Homeroom teacher is a maid XD Word of advice in case you play Persona 5 or Persona 5 Royal, don't do the harem route.

[@killerqueen5633]

wait why?

[@flaremawile726]

@@killerqueen5633 Let's just say, if you go for every single girl. In Valentines Day, Let's just say you'll end up like these novels or movies where an unfaithful man has more than one girlfriend/wife...and in this case, 8 girls who are very upset with you. Use your imagination.

[@flaremawile726]

@@killerqueen5633 Long story short, not worth it. Not worth cheating on any of them. just stick to one girl throught the playthough.

[@nicholastaylor5354]

Finally, some people with respect.

[@flaremawile726]

@@nicholastaylor5354 I personally preffer to just stick to one girl, thsnk you.

[@davethefyrezorua]

Almighty attacks (Like Sinful Shell) bypass any kind of defense. Pretty sure thats why GER's arm went "sayonara" before both him and Giorno got vaporized

[@ghst1825]

Yet anything that stands before GER will return to zero

[@vick7868]

Except Almighty bypasses reality warping defenses soooo

[@kiorili]

Giorno can dominate fate. Joker can rebel against fate. That's all

[@yakata6673]

Death battle left out the fact that joker is a trickster which is the reason why he was able to resist his will being drained from him by maruki and Yaldabaoth

[@dimitryryutta]

Thing is,if you played any of the Persona game, would understand just how broken a single basic persona could be,Personas are like pokemon for the main characters,there's lots of them,each of them with various powers and resistances,some of them are totally immune to some types of elements and attacks,some of them bounce back attack,some of them even straight up heal them selfs if they are attacked with something they absorb and in persona games,in the end,you always end up fighting a god ,and you end up defeating it with an attack so powerful it erases their existance

[@sanstheskeleton3766]

Basically Joker cans Heal Be immune to physical Be immune to magic I forget if that was a thing been awhile seen last played it Has the role of trickster that rebels against everything that could also mean reset everything to 0 meaning he might've not needed the recharge

[@egc2536]

If joker used DLC personas, the fight been over immediately

[@jamesnall6462]

Myriad Truths go brrrrrrr

[@marktheredlightning2829]

BY THE MYRIAD TRUTHS! ALL WILL BE REVEALED!

[@Shinygamer70]

Izanagi No Okami picaro!!!! ALL SHALL BE REVEALED

[@shieldofwind7241]

BY THE MYRIAD TRUTHS

[@Trickyman477]

Myriad truths myriad truths myriad truths

[@Darkness-618]

This is overkill, not fight

[@Zyimes]

Eggman might actually win this, and Morø is helping death battle make Bowser vs Eggman? This shit finna be fire 🔥🔥

[@poliorice3600]

I mean, it shows that Eggman gets Sage, who blocked attacks from The End, the actual embodiment of the concept of destruction, Bowser loses

[@sonomni]

On one hand has Bowser is a terrifyingly powerful powerhouse. On another hand, Eggman’s cunningness might get him, plus he has Metal Sonic and Sage on his side.

[@Zyimes]

@@sonomni and who does Bowser have Koopa Troopas and Goombas? Yeah Bowser is cooked 😭🙏🙏

[@KingRock9717]

Unless Fury Bowser is involved.

[@sonomni]

@@KingRock9717 Canonically Fury Bowser happened because of Bowser Junior’s paintbrush… who he has on his side in this Death Battle.

[@goldenboxen6430]

Fun fact die for me is a move with a high instakill chance so that move would ether do nothing or end the fight right there and there’s two other high chance instakill moves

[@reflex9238]

As other people have said already, Joker being at bare minimum universal, made it so Giorno had no wincon like what was he gonna do to Joker just tickle him to death. There were other ways to bypass the RTZ, a common one that I'm finally glad gained traction as its one of the most direct way was the fact that GER allowed Giorno to dominate fate, Joker easily changes fate and has no effect on him, making GER's main abilities useless as manipulating Joker's fate wouldn't get him anywhere. People also forget that causality manipulation is just a subset of time manipulation as the effects are similar to time travel though far more controlled and GER's ability fits the bill for it, Joker has statements that put him above time meaning that any changes in the flow of time wouldn't affect him at all. These reasons above are just scratching the surface, Joker wouldn't necessarily need Santanel to bypass it, in fact its the very definition of overkill.

[@MetricLlama]

This fight had me on the edge of my SEAT!

[@MinatotheGreenLantern]

@@MetricLlama ONG

[@DarkJstrike57]

First you earned yourself a sub from me you are also correct in assuming these points Joker is Indeed from Persona 5 as well as the other Persona 5 games in 5 Royal which is like a definitive edition, 5 Strikers and 5 Tactica. Giorno is indeed the son of Dio and is the JoJo(or GioGio as the nickname is more commonly put as) of Part 5 Golden Wind There are 9 or so JoJos now Part 1 Phantom Blood, Part 2 Battle Tendency, Part 3 Stardust Crusaders, Part 4 Diamond is Unbreakable, Part 5 Golden Wind, Part 6 Stone Ocean, Part 7 Steel Ball Run, Part 8 JoJolion and as of right now Part 9 JoJolands

[@MinatotheGreenLantern]

Awesome episode

[@jaxcraft2848]

Makes up for Bardock vs. Omni-Man.

[@MinatotheGreenLantern]

@@jaxcraft2848 Fax

[@walfull1079]

For me, where I knew about the crazy stuff both characters can do, it mostly came down to who’s BS can out power each other

[@kdog1000Again]

Time for the Joker vs Goku debates

[@jotarooraorasyourverse8446]

I genuinely turned Super Saiyan 3 after seeing that. Steven I had a similar reaction to you when you watched Dio vs Alucard.

[@timothyobrien7993]

Egg man should win in the next death battle because Sage should be the Wildcard to help him win against Bowser army it might be close

[@thechatteringclown]

No, they explained all of it. But some people just refuse to pay attention to the explanations and only pay attention to the fight animation itself.

[@rhyssnoble8245]

The best thing about Joker is that he could have easily won with just reflect physical lol. There are personas that drain melee damage too and mixed bag of bs lol.

[@hawkee-q1r]

they had to downgrade joker for the fight to happen in the first place

[@kerrynaruto]

I have said this before years ago. The one who uses their most powerful skills/attacks/transformations first is the who loses 85-90% of the time

[@jaxcraft2848]

AWESOME fight! 18:11: Dang. I bet Giorno too. But it was still an awesome and close fight nonetheless!

[@darkreflection9087]

I’m a bigger fan of Persona than JoJo but I actually thought Giorno would win because Gold Experience Requiem power is BS but I didn’t know that Ren/Joker was even more BS

[@sanstheskeleton3766]

Let me give you a list of what they didn't do or say Joker cans Heal Be immune to physical Joker is broken Be immune to magic I forget if that was a thing been awhile seen last played it Has the role of trickster that rebels against everything that could also mean reset everything to 0 meaning he might've not needed the recharge

[@VanBlackstar]

Being a Trickster make him immune to Causality Manipulation power and Return to Zero is a part of Causality Manipulation power.

[@AWeekLastTuesday]

im more a Nintendo fan then Sega, but i dunno, I feel Eggman will will this one, but I dont know all the powers, and whether Bowser is able to use the various Mario series powerups or not. I seen his minions have been powered up with them in games.

[@darkreflection9087]

17:03 Omega Sanction

[@Gooseworx6]

On the old death panel eggman versus wiley Eggman dies Metal sonic win Technically Eggman wins

[@zara983]

but they did specify it, THEY LITERALLY SAID DURING THE ANALYSIS THAT THE SINFUL SHELL CAN BYPASS ANY DEFENSE - ANY DEFENSE WOULD INCLUDE RETURN TO ZERO IF YOU USE YOUR BRAIN, steven why are you being intentionally dense?

[@sanstheskeleton3766]

Joker cans Heal Be immune to physical Be immune to magic I forget if that was a thing been awhile seen last played it Has the role of trickster that rebels against everything that could also mean reset everything to 0 meaning he might've not needed the recharge

[@Karmanara]

Thats not a "defense" bozo. Rewriting reality isn't a defense move, its a reality warping move.

[@zara983]

@@Karmanara are you dumb? honestly, are you dumb? i'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, reality warping is inherently a defense. so to put it in a way you should be able to understand: YOU CAN'T BE HIT IF YOU WARP REALITY TO AVOID IT, AVOIDANCE IS DEFENSE, AN ATTACK THAT GETS PAST ANY DEFENSE CAN NOT BE AVOIDED. it is common sense

[@flameknightdragon]

and they had to use info from non canon games to make sinful shell work that way in the first place.

[@darkreflection9087]

1:16 That’s awesome

[@Royal-JohnHarris]

Say it with me, everyone! PERSONA!!!

[@nikodemoliniak4482]

Good news death battle confirend doom guy vs master chief rematch Pls pin me

[@VanBlackstar]

Being Trickster as it's own is already make Joker an anti GER because he immune/completely resistance to Causality Manipulation and RtZ is a Causality Manipulation power. Thus this fight is not even fair for Giorno

[@Gooseworx6]

I never paid a game Joker wins 100%

[@carloalaimo2154]

Hello goose

[@Gooseworx6]

@@carloalaimo2154 Hello how are you doing

[@carloalaimo2154]

@@Gooseworx6 fine i didnt know you like death battle

[@thedetectove]

@@carloalaimo2154it’s a fake account

[@Spade948]

The persona Yoshitsune nullifies all physical damage. Also, it looks like they're in the 4th block of tartarus

[@WANDERINGMAN82]

In the Death Battle Universe, the one who transforms first will die 😂😂 This is Joker's real face without the clown mask 😂😂

[@steelefold9639]

Wait isn't eyes over heaven non-canon.

[@brandonwong8614]

So Psych to see Jack frost in the animation love the little guy

[@Knickie0531]

It really doesn’t matter if he has zero if sinfull shell can just go through his zero ability and all of jokers resist

[@jaxcraft2848]

Dang. We back to the brutal deaths again!

[@Vetadelta3892]

My boy Giorno got massively disrespected :c

[@thatguy5601]

I mean if they let Eggman use Time Eater in DB then Eggman would win by a landslide it's not even fair of a match Bowser has nothing to go against Time Eater's time manipulation and erasing time power I guess the mech from Colors and Forces could also make it his victory by manipulating hyper go-on energy to create a black hole but Bowser has been shown to survive it in Mario Galaxy and Mario Party or use Phantom Ruby but it will also be useless bc dry Bowser other than trapping him in Null space which is not killing him though, I guess we can/cannot count on Paper Bower thanks to Paper Jam, Mario and Luigi series, they are different people Metal Sonic is busted thanks to the Copy ability, Maximum Overdrive, and many transformations plus Sage can summon the Guardians from the Islands to fight against the minions if they are taking place on the island or use her searching battle history to see the chances of victory for Eggman, and Infinite to create an army of warriors or create the Sun

[@encryptfrz1492]

Two characters Sage and Metal Sonic

[@sevanlast9077]

is not roosterteeth fault is youtube algorithm fault it give your copyright strike don't blaming company itself

[@MrAuthor3DS]

- The Persona 5 games have actually shown multiple times that Persona users can prevent outright willpower negation (and similar effects, like having Desires extracted) - but I guess having Confidant connections to anchor Joker also helps. - Uh, yeah, the pharmaceutical trials and maid/teacher are long stories in and of themselves. - Sinful Shell isn't the only Almighty skill, of course. There's Life Drain, Megido, Stagnant Air, Lucifer's Morning Star, and so on. In fact, do you remember Mitsuru's Death Battle? Her Persona used such a skill, Megidolaon. A-Anyway, I'm saying that even Megido would have sufficed. - Gold Experience isn't quite like DIO's The World. In fact, only Jotaro's Star Platinum - a functionally identical Stand, as stated in-story - directly inherited a skill from it. - Y...eah, Leone Abbacchio greeted Giorno by serving him "tea", as a mean-spirited prank (he didn't trust Giorno at first). - Jesus IS involved in JoJo, but mainly in Part 7 (which takes place in a completely separate timeline). - If normal Gold Experience's speed was comparable to Silver Chariot's sword arm, it would handle at least 1500 times light speed. And yes, that's still far less than 8 billion times from skills like Morning Star. - "DIO is such a d!ck, he literally ruined his own son's Death Battle." Heh, the single funniest line in this episode. Wonder what'll finish up this year after Bowser vs Eggman...?

[@Xx-jumpshot_edits]

so if giorno didn't fight dio he would had won?

[@bubble_ross]

nah joker still has enough to take the W

[@DHworldwide185]

Not really. There was other isntances where fate was defied in Jojo. There is all the issue of Almighty which can negate relaity warping which is essentially what GER is.

[@marcomunoz4741]

Nope, every single wincon for joker still stands up without that as shown by the g1 blog.

[@alessandroreyes3827]

That would have probably left the battle more into interpration to believe if satanael attack would have worked or not. This was a confermation of it.

[@justtofu3617]

Nah Joker vary nature as a Trickster A Trickster in Persona is basically a gigantic 'f you' to any and all matters of reality, will, law control etc. The final boss of og P5 erased Joker and the Phantom Thieves from reality all together, they LITTERALY were forgotten from existence, but Joker said 'f it' and came back BECAUSE he is a Trickster

[@jaxcraft2848]

Guess you never saw it coming.

[@Bolun-wt7vv]

Ngl Giorno vs Yu Narukami would be a better match up for real "You will never reach the truth" vs The one who reveal the truth

[@Diablo3364]

I'm so proud of my boy. He did it!!!

[@hunterjohnson7796]

if joker dies he cant revive himself mind you. especially infinite times. He cant revive himself so much even, that if he goes down at all its game over. He didnt die in the yaldobouth fight and was able to use his "power of friendship" he isnt able to rez himself if hes dead they just knew more people like joker than giorno, and again this is coming from a huge smt fan

[@Gooseworx6]

I pick eggman

[@sanstheskeleton3766]

Joker cans Heal Be immune to physical Be immune to magic I forget if that was a thing been awhile seen last played it Has the role of trickster that rebels against everything that could also mean reset everything to 0 meaning he might've not needed the recharge

[@bobbyblair5464]

Giorno is base fodder for SMT characters since demons and shadows aren't bound by time and causality.

[@anunkafu7420]

If this happens to me in real life, I get a heart attack 7:57

[@CarlosBlanco-n1k]

Na wrong Giorno should have won

[@justtofu3617]

How come ?

[@CarlosBlanco-nk21]

You look like a discord mod!

[@Luckru]

giorno never stood a chance against game 4 mkleo

[@fakhriyusufm5489]

6:52 first time?🥴

[@connellychase573]

Youll never see it coming and this actually accurate to what would happen joker is that broken in all senses of the word also instant revive sucker

[@NicholasJackson-kv5pc]

When I first saw the video I knew Joker will win.

[@FoxyBoy-mz2ys]

I never really cared, I hate both Joker and GER debaters cause outerversal Joker and GER resets gives me headaches.

[@NicholasJackson-kv5pc]

@@FoxyBoy-mz2ys Why?

[@sanstheskeleton3766]

I thought joker would lose before I remembered Joker cans Heal Be immune to physical Be immune to magic I forget if that was a thing been awhile seen last played it Has the role of trickster that rebels against everything that could also mean reset everything to 0 meaning he might've not needed the recharge

[@NicholasJackson-kv5pc]

@@sanstheskeleton3766 Well we have to expect the unexpected right.

[@ryanbustillos917]

Can you reaction to skibidi multiverse bloopers

[@AliceIzuragi6291]

persona scaling is fucking wild. joker at his highest is a outerversal entity

[@FoxyBoy-mz2ys]

This is the biggest wank I ever seen about the verse that tuxedo mask wannabe isn't outerversal, also outerversal is just an instant win button nowadays. I would love to be a 3rd party to have 1 character kill the both of them.

[@sanstheskeleton3766]

What they didn't add Joker cans Heal Be immune to physical Be immune to magic I forget if that was a thing been awhile seen last played it Has the role of trickster that rebels against everything that could also mean reset everything to 0 meaning he might've not needed the recharge

[@AliceIzuragi6291]

@@sanstheskeleton3766 joker can solo most of fiction, he could even beat kratos and even give doom guy a challenge. he is busted

[@solarfiringtiger4254]

I Think eggman should win

[@HeroTheHedgehog999]

Same here. I’m glad I’m not the only one rooting for him.

[@deatharena227]

Nah Bowser

[@poliorice3600]

​@deatharena227 nah, Sage blocking attacks from The End singlehandedly makes Eggman win, since The End is the literal concept of destruction which is more powerful than the several multiverse busters like Solaris, the Time Eater, and Void

[@DynamiteRyper]

As a huge fan of JoJo & Persona, yeah they got this one right. I was scared until Joker won, but now I have no need to fear now!

[@sevanlast9077]

and also i mad about bardock lost

[@worldofrandomness3845]

Eggman for the win

[@MikeDang-pm4co]

I don’t count eyes of heaven as canon. I believed both Giorno and Joker cannot beat eachother imo

[@sanstheskeleton3766]

Thought joker lose until I remember Joker cans Heal Be immune to physical Be immune to magic I forget if that was a thing been awhile seen last played it Has the role of trickster that rebels against everything that could also mean reset everything to 0 meaning he might've not needed the recharge

[@nikodemoliniak4482]

This is peak

[@yeetman1344]

ye this is kinda a lowball Joker as well due to how nuts the Persona/SMT cosmology is since Collective Unconscious likely contains countless universes and by some definitions assisted by the SMT lore extends past conventional dimensional scaling and all that kinda stuff so on highball, hes stronger than most of fiction. Beyond that he also has resistance out the ass including causality related ones.

[@kostakonomi]

Tldr bullshit god vs bullshit devil its not who is stronger but who has the better bullshit mind to outsmart the other

[@Gooseworx6]

Dragon ball sucks