The funny part is that Joker was pretty much *universally* agreed to win. No one thought Giorno had a chance. In the G1 blog - the most respected scaling site on the internet - the members voted 11 to 1 in favor of Joker.
@RangeCMYK14 сағат бұрын
The main point of discussion was Revert to Zero. No one knew exactly if Joker could bypass it, or what interpretation of it DB would use. But the main fuel towards Sinful Shell bypassing RtZ is because of the Omnipotent Orb's description, and I guess no one really went looking for a random item's flavor text.
@ToocoolSkeletor14 сағат бұрын
When the Tik Tok community are the only ones betting on a character, that character is fucked.
@KarpJeff13 сағат бұрын
Reading the G1 blog was so funny this time. They had Joker being able to scale to 7D guys at minimum while being able to match and exceed GER's speed with like 7 win cons while Giorno had none
@justincarbaugh59612 сағат бұрын
Hence a boring MU, Joker sucks
@xzkilerymax839512 сағат бұрын
@@justincarbaugh596 wrong
@GhostlyGhost33314 сағат бұрын
Huh. I guess he doesn’t pay attention to things does he? Joker had the outs needed. Just requires the watcher to pay attention.
@wojciechwerner878714 сағат бұрын
Yes the moment they mentioned that this bullet works against reality warping I suspected that it will overcome GER.
@Hillwisekid14 сағат бұрын
He never saw it coming. I'll see myself out.
@Domination-yv1ct14 сағат бұрын
“Checkmate” -Joker
@sanstheskeleton376612 сағат бұрын
Joker cans Heal Be immune to physical Be immune to magic I forget if that was a thing been awhile seen last played it Has the role of trickster that rebels against everything that could also mean reset everything to 0 meaning he might've not needed the recharge
@Frost_Winterfall10 сағат бұрын
@@sanstheskeleton3766 Satanael resists all types of attacks, except curse, which it absorbs. It also comes packed with Survival Trick, which would allow Joker to survive an ambush through time a second time from Requiem, and Tyrant's Mind which would add a bit more damage onto the Sinful Shell already. Joker with Satanael is strong af, and he isn't even the strongest persona user to exist (debatably)
@ajn_rules_507413 сағат бұрын
"Sinful Shell, a bullet made from the 7 deadly sins that can piece even a god" GET F*CKED GER! I'm playing, i'm just so happy Joker won!
@sanstheskeleton376612 сағат бұрын
Joker cans Heal Be immune to physical Be immune to magic I forget if that was a thing been awhile seen last played it Has the role of trickster that rebels against everything that could also mean reset everything to 0 meaning he might've not needed the recharge
@Sam_4936214 сағат бұрын
9:08 this is not mentioned in there, but Personas can also be summoned on the real world, but it's harder than in the metaverse
@sleep532914 сағат бұрын
Finally someone said it. Persona users always have it. The issue is their respective worlds make it easier
@Sam_4936214 сағат бұрын
@@sleep5329 I thought it was common knowledge tbh, but a lot of fans of Giorno use to say that Personas only work in the metaverse
@alimuhammad737014 сағат бұрын
At least someone knows a lot of people dont seem to know this for some reason
@Hyperneosonic9713 сағат бұрын
Granted, the conditions _are_ a lot more stringent, and for Joker, he effectively can't, as he has neither an Evoker nor the intense training to summon a Persona outside the Metaverse or similar areas without one.
@LeviathanGamer79913 сағат бұрын
It is also canon that Joker (from the real world) can take opponents into the Metaverse if they aren’t there already, at least that’s what Smash Bracket told me
@S0dapop58313 сағат бұрын
What’s funny is that they lowballed the ever loving hell out of Joker. Joker not only has access to sinful shell, but he has access to several more almighty type moves, without even needing satanael. Joker also has skills that allow him to nullify, reflect, or absorb certain damage types, so if joker had null physical or a persona that nullified physical, then Giorno has no way of dealing any damage. You could argue that the damage reflection by GE giving life is almighty damage, but even then he has access to several types of healing spells, and has other skills that allow him to passively recover. I know that DB didn’t give him these things to make the fight seem “close”, but put some respect on my boy Joker and give him his actual skill set
@hunterjohnson77969 сағат бұрын
satanael isnt summonable by joker by himself in canon. it literally takes all of tokyo to summon him. not to mention almight attacks are not reality warping attacks. they are NEVER said to be this reality destroying and warping ability, they can literally just straight up miss. this is just joker glaze. and this is coming from a pretty heavy smt stan. omnipotent orb is an item, not an ability. If that were the case, divine pillar would be something that reality warping doesnt touch because it halves all damage including almighty.
@Trickyman4779 сағат бұрын
Myriad truth myriad truth myriad truth
@yourboylos25326 сағат бұрын
@@hunterjohnson7796 Go to the persona compendium and Satanael is there joker has the ability to summon it after the fight with Yaldabaoth.
@vick78686 сағат бұрын
@@hunterjohnson7796I mean, Satanael becomes an accessible Persona you can get from the Velvet Room during the third semester, so youre just kinda wrong. Plus, even if you dont buy him being anle to use Sinful Shell the way they presented it, the World arcana gives him the power to do so at all times. Joker wins, case closed.
@flameknightdragon5 сағат бұрын
@@vick7868 not really. GER broke fate so it does the same thing the World arcana users do.
@TwiMil200814 сағат бұрын
23:23 The power of friendship is always enough. 😌
@flaremawile72614 сағат бұрын
8:17 Oh, yeah, you can do that. The Homeroom teacher is a maid XD Word of advice in case you play Persona 5 or Persona 5 Royal, don't do the harem route.
@killerqueen563313 сағат бұрын
wait why?
@flaremawile72613 сағат бұрын
@@killerqueen5633 Let's just say, if you go for every single girl. In Valentines Day, Let's just say you'll end up like these novels or movies where an unfaithful man has more than one girlfriend/wife...and in this case, 8 girls who are very upset with you. Use your imagination.
@flaremawile72613 сағат бұрын
@@killerqueen5633 Long story short, not worth it. Not worth cheating on any of them. just stick to one girl throught the playthough.
@nicholastaylor535413 сағат бұрын
Finally, some people with respect.
@flaremawile72612 сағат бұрын
@@nicholastaylor5354 I personally preffer to just stick to one girl, thsnk you.
@davethefyrezorua14 сағат бұрын
Almighty attacks (Like Sinful Shell) bypass any kind of defense. Pretty sure thats why GER's arm went "sayonara" before both him and Giorno got vaporized
@ghst18256 сағат бұрын
Yet anything that stands before GER will return to zero
Giorno can dominate fate. Joker can rebel against fate. That's all
@yakata667311 сағат бұрын
Death battle left out the fact that joker is a trickster which is the reason why he was able to resist his will being drained from him by maruki and Yaldabaoth
@dimitryryutta14 сағат бұрын
Thing is,if you played any of the Persona game, would understand just how broken a single basic persona could be,Personas are like pokemon for the main characters,there's lots of them,each of them with various powers and resistances,some of them are totally immune to some types of elements and attacks,some of them bounce back attack,some of them even straight up heal them selfs if they are attacked with something they absorb and in persona games,in the end,you always end up fighting a god ,and you end up defeating it with an attack so powerful it erases their existance
@sanstheskeleton376612 сағат бұрын
Basically Joker cans Heal Be immune to physical Be immune to magic I forget if that was a thing been awhile seen last played it Has the role of trickster that rebels against everything that could also mean reset everything to 0 meaning he might've not needed the recharge
@egc253614 сағат бұрын
If joker used DLC personas, the fight been over immediately
@jamesnall646213 сағат бұрын
Myriad Truths go brrrrrrr
@marktheredlightning282912 сағат бұрын
BY THE MYRIAD TRUTHS! ALL WILL BE REVEALED!
@Shinygamer7010 сағат бұрын
Izanagi No Okami picaro!!!! ALL SHALL BE REVEALED
@shieldofwind724110 сағат бұрын
BY THE MYRIAD TRUTHS
@Trickyman4779 сағат бұрын
Myriad truths myriad truths myriad truths
@Darkness-61814 сағат бұрын
This is overkill, not fight
@Zyimes14 сағат бұрын
Eggman might actually win this, and Morø is helping death battle make Bowser vs Eggman? This shit finna be fire 🔥🔥
@poliorice360014 сағат бұрын
I mean, it shows that Eggman gets Sage, who blocked attacks from The End, the actual embodiment of the concept of destruction, Bowser loses
@sonomni12 сағат бұрын
On one hand has Bowser is a terrifyingly powerful powerhouse. On another hand, Eggman’s cunningness might get him, plus he has Metal Sonic and Sage on his side.
@Zyimes12 сағат бұрын
@@sonomni and who does Bowser have Koopa Troopas and Goombas? Yeah Bowser is cooked 😭🙏🙏
@KingRock971712 сағат бұрын
Unless Fury Bowser is involved.
@sonomni11 сағат бұрын
@@KingRock9717 Canonically Fury Bowser happened because of Bowser Junior’s paintbrush… who he has on his side in this Death Battle.
@goldenboxen64309 сағат бұрын
Fun fact die for me is a move with a high instakill chance so that move would ether do nothing or end the fight right there and there’s two other high chance instakill moves
@reflex92386 сағат бұрын
As other people have said already, Joker being at bare minimum universal, made it so Giorno had no wincon like what was he gonna do to Joker just tickle him to death. There were other ways to bypass the RTZ, a common one that I'm finally glad gained traction as its one of the most direct way was the fact that GER allowed Giorno to dominate fate, Joker easily changes fate and has no effect on him, making GER's main abilities useless as manipulating Joker's fate wouldn't get him anywhere. People also forget that causality manipulation is just a subset of time manipulation as the effects are similar to time travel though far more controlled and GER's ability fits the bill for it, Joker has statements that put him above time meaning that any changes in the flow of time wouldn't affect him at all. These reasons above are just scratching the surface, Joker wouldn't necessarily need Santanel to bypass it, in fact its the very definition of overkill.
@MetricLlama14 сағат бұрын
This fight had me on the edge of my SEAT!
@MinatotheGreenLantern14 сағат бұрын
@@MetricLlama ONG
@DarkJstrike5714 сағат бұрын
First you earned yourself a sub from me you are also correct in assuming these points Joker is Indeed from Persona 5 as well as the other Persona 5 games in 5 Royal which is like a definitive edition, 5 Strikers and 5 Tactica. Giorno is indeed the son of Dio and is the JoJo(or GioGio as the nickname is more commonly put as) of Part 5 Golden Wind There are 9 or so JoJos now Part 1 Phantom Blood, Part 2 Battle Tendency, Part 3 Stardust Crusaders, Part 4 Diamond is Unbreakable, Part 5 Golden Wind, Part 6 Stone Ocean, Part 7 Steel Ball Run, Part 8 JoJolion and as of right now Part 9 JoJolands
@MinatotheGreenLantern15 сағат бұрын
Awesome episode
@jaxcraft284814 сағат бұрын
Makes up for Bardock vs. Omni-Man.
@MinatotheGreenLantern14 сағат бұрын
@@jaxcraft2848 Fax
@walfull107911 сағат бұрын
For me, where I knew about the crazy stuff both characters can do, it mostly came down to who’s BS can out power each other
@kdog1000Again12 сағат бұрын
Time for the Joker vs Goku debates
@jotarooraorasyourverse844614 сағат бұрын
I genuinely turned Super Saiyan 3 after seeing that. Steven I had a similar reaction to you when you watched Dio vs Alucard.
@timothyobrien799314 сағат бұрын
Egg man should win in the next death battle because Sage should be the Wildcard to help him win against Bowser army it might be close
@thechatteringclownСағат бұрын
No, they explained all of it. But some people just refuse to pay attention to the explanations and only pay attention to the fight animation itself.
@rhyssnoble82457 сағат бұрын
The best thing about Joker is that he could have easily won with just reflect physical lol. There are personas that drain melee damage too and mixed bag of bs lol.
@hawkee-q1r7 сағат бұрын
they had to downgrade joker for the fight to happen in the first place
@kerrynaruto10 сағат бұрын
I have said this before years ago. The one who uses their most powerful skills/attacks/transformations first is the who loses 85-90% of the time
@jaxcraft284814 сағат бұрын
AWESOME fight! 18:11: Dang. I bet Giorno too. But it was still an awesome and close fight nonetheless!
@darkreflection908713 сағат бұрын
I’m a bigger fan of Persona than JoJo but I actually thought Giorno would win because Gold Experience Requiem power is BS but I didn’t know that Ren/Joker was even more BS
@sanstheskeleton376612 сағат бұрын
Let me give you a list of what they didn't do or say Joker cans Heal Be immune to physical Joker is broken Be immune to magic I forget if that was a thing been awhile seen last played it Has the role of trickster that rebels against everything that could also mean reset everything to 0 meaning he might've not needed the recharge
@VanBlackstar9 сағат бұрын
Being a Trickster make him immune to Causality Manipulation power and Return to Zero is a part of Causality Manipulation power.
@AWeekLastTuesday11 сағат бұрын
im more a Nintendo fan then Sega, but i dunno, I feel Eggman will will this one, but I dont know all the powers, and whether Bowser is able to use the various Mario series powerups or not. I seen his minions have been powered up with them in games.
@darkreflection908713 сағат бұрын
17:03 Omega Sanction
@Gooseworx614 сағат бұрын
On the old death panel eggman versus wiley Eggman dies Metal sonic win Technically Eggman wins
@zara98313 сағат бұрын
but they did specify it, THEY LITERALLY SAID DURING THE ANALYSIS THAT THE SINFUL SHELL CAN BYPASS ANY DEFENSE - ANY DEFENSE WOULD INCLUDE RETURN TO ZERO IF YOU USE YOUR BRAIN, steven why are you being intentionally dense?
@sanstheskeleton376612 сағат бұрын
Joker cans Heal Be immune to physical Be immune to magic I forget if that was a thing been awhile seen last played it Has the role of trickster that rebels against everything that could also mean reset everything to 0 meaning he might've not needed the recharge
@Karmanara11 сағат бұрын
Thats not a "defense" bozo. Rewriting reality isn't a defense move, its a reality warping move.
@zara9839 сағат бұрын
@@Karmanara are you dumb? honestly, are you dumb? i'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, reality warping is inherently a defense. so to put it in a way you should be able to understand: YOU CAN'T BE HIT IF YOU WARP REALITY TO AVOID IT, AVOIDANCE IS DEFENSE, AN ATTACK THAT GETS PAST ANY DEFENSE CAN NOT BE AVOIDED. it is common sense
@flameknightdragon5 сағат бұрын
and they had to use info from non canon games to make sinful shell work that way in the first place.
@darkreflection908713 сағат бұрын
1:16 That’s awesome
@Royal-JohnHarris14 сағат бұрын
Say it with me, everyone! PERSONA!!!
@nikodemoliniak448214 сағат бұрын
Good news death battle confirend doom guy vs master chief rematch Pls pin me
@VanBlackstar9 сағат бұрын
Being Trickster as it's own is already make Joker an anti GER because he immune/completely resistance to Causality Manipulation and RtZ is a Causality Manipulation power. Thus this fight is not even fair for Giorno
@Gooseworx614 сағат бұрын
I never paid a game Joker wins 100%
@carloalaimo215414 сағат бұрын
Hello goose
@Gooseworx614 сағат бұрын
@@carloalaimo2154 Hello how are you doing
@carloalaimo215412 сағат бұрын
@@Gooseworx6 fine i didnt know you like death battle
@thedetectove4 сағат бұрын
@@carloalaimo2154it’s a fake account
@Spade9485 сағат бұрын
The persona Yoshitsune nullifies all physical damage. Also, it looks like they're in the 4th block of tartarus
@WANDERINGMAN8210 сағат бұрын
In the Death Battle Universe, the one who transforms first will die 😂😂 This is Joker's real face without the clown mask 😂😂
@steelefold96393 сағат бұрын
Wait isn't eyes over heaven non-canon.
@brandonwong861414 сағат бұрын
So Psych to see Jack frost in the animation love the little guy
@Knickie053113 сағат бұрын
It really doesn’t matter if he has zero if sinfull shell can just go through his zero ability and all of jokers resist
@jaxcraft284814 сағат бұрын
Dang. We back to the brutal deaths again!
@Vetadelta38924 сағат бұрын
My boy Giorno got massively disrespected :c
@thatguy560111 сағат бұрын
I mean if they let Eggman use Time Eater in DB then Eggman would win by a landslide it's not even fair of a match Bowser has nothing to go against Time Eater's time manipulation and erasing time power I guess the mech from Colors and Forces could also make it his victory by manipulating hyper go-on energy to create a black hole but Bowser has been shown to survive it in Mario Galaxy and Mario Party or use Phantom Ruby but it will also be useless bc dry Bowser other than trapping him in Null space which is not killing him though, I guess we can/cannot count on Paper Bower thanks to Paper Jam, Mario and Luigi series, they are different people Metal Sonic is busted thanks to the Copy ability, Maximum Overdrive, and many transformations plus Sage can summon the Guardians from the Islands to fight against the minions if they are taking place on the island or use her searching battle history to see the chances of victory for Eggman, and Infinite to create an army of warriors or create the Sun
@encryptfrz149213 сағат бұрын
Two characters Sage and Metal Sonic
@sevanlast907713 сағат бұрын
is not roosterteeth fault is youtube algorithm fault it give your copyright strike don't blaming company itself
@MrAuthor3DS14 сағат бұрын
- The Persona 5 games have actually shown multiple times that Persona users can prevent outright willpower negation (and similar effects, like having Desires extracted) - but I guess having Confidant connections to anchor Joker also helps. - Uh, yeah, the pharmaceutical trials and maid/teacher are long stories in and of themselves. - Sinful Shell isn't the only Almighty skill, of course. There's Life Drain, Megido, Stagnant Air, Lucifer's Morning Star, and so on. In fact, do you remember Mitsuru's Death Battle? Her Persona used such a skill, Megidolaon. A-Anyway, I'm saying that even Megido would have sufficed. - Gold Experience isn't quite like DIO's The World. In fact, only Jotaro's Star Platinum - a functionally identical Stand, as stated in-story - directly inherited a skill from it. - Y...eah, Leone Abbacchio greeted Giorno by serving him "tea", as a mean-spirited prank (he didn't trust Giorno at first). - Jesus IS involved in JoJo, but mainly in Part 7 (which takes place in a completely separate timeline). - If normal Gold Experience's speed was comparable to Silver Chariot's sword arm, it would handle at least 1500 times light speed. And yes, that's still far less than 8 billion times from skills like Morning Star. - "DIO is such a d!ck, he literally ruined his own son's Death Battle." Heh, the single funniest line in this episode. Wonder what'll finish up this year after Bowser vs Eggman...?
@Xx-jumpshot_edits14 сағат бұрын
so if giorno didn't fight dio he would had won?
@bubble_ross14 сағат бұрын
nah joker still has enough to take the W
@DHworldwide18514 сағат бұрын
Not really. There was other isntances where fate was defied in Jojo. There is all the issue of Almighty which can negate relaity warping which is essentially what GER is.
@marcomunoz474114 сағат бұрын
Nope, every single wincon for joker still stands up without that as shown by the g1 blog.
@alessandroreyes382714 сағат бұрын
That would have probably left the battle more into interpration to believe if satanael attack would have worked or not. This was a confermation of it.
@justtofu361713 сағат бұрын
Nah Joker vary nature as a Trickster A Trickster in Persona is basically a gigantic 'f you' to any and all matters of reality, will, law control etc. The final boss of og P5 erased Joker and the Phantom Thieves from reality all together, they LITTERALY were forgotten from existence, but Joker said 'f it' and came back BECAUSE he is a Trickster
@jaxcraft284814 сағат бұрын
Guess you never saw it coming.
@Bolun-wt7vv8 сағат бұрын
Ngl Giorno vs Yu Narukami would be a better match up for real "You will never reach the truth" vs The one who reveal the truth
@Diablo336413 сағат бұрын
I'm so proud of my boy. He did it!!!
@hunterjohnson77969 сағат бұрын
if joker dies he cant revive himself mind you. especially infinite times. He cant revive himself so much even, that if he goes down at all its game over. He didnt die in the yaldobouth fight and was able to use his "power of friendship" he isnt able to rez himself if hes dead they just knew more people like joker than giorno, and again this is coming from a huge smt fan
@Gooseworx614 сағат бұрын
I pick eggman
@sanstheskeleton376612 сағат бұрын
Joker cans Heal Be immune to physical Be immune to magic I forget if that was a thing been awhile seen last played it Has the role of trickster that rebels against everything that could also mean reset everything to 0 meaning he might've not needed the recharge
@bobbyblair546412 сағат бұрын
Giorno is base fodder for SMT characters since demons and shadows aren't bound by time and causality.
@anunkafu742013 сағат бұрын
If this happens to me in real life, I get a heart attack 7:57
@CarlosBlanco-n1k14 сағат бұрын
Na wrong Giorno should have won
@justtofu361713 сағат бұрын
How come ?
@CarlosBlanco-nk2110 сағат бұрын
You look like a discord mod!
@Luckru12 сағат бұрын
giorno never stood a chance against game 4 mkleo
@fakhriyusufm548914 сағат бұрын
6:52 first time?🥴
@connellychase57314 сағат бұрын
Youll never see it coming and this actually accurate to what would happen joker is that broken in all senses of the word also instant revive sucker
@NicholasJackson-kv5pc14 сағат бұрын
When I first saw the video I knew Joker will win.
@FoxyBoy-mz2ys13 сағат бұрын
I never really cared, I hate both Joker and GER debaters cause outerversal Joker and GER resets gives me headaches.
@NicholasJackson-kv5pc13 сағат бұрын
@@FoxyBoy-mz2ys Why?
@sanstheskeleton376612 сағат бұрын
I thought joker would lose before I remembered Joker cans Heal Be immune to physical Be immune to magic I forget if that was a thing been awhile seen last played it Has the role of trickster that rebels against everything that could also mean reset everything to 0 meaning he might've not needed the recharge
@NicholasJackson-kv5pc12 сағат бұрын
@@sanstheskeleton3766 Well we have to expect the unexpected right.
@ryanbustillos91714 сағат бұрын
Can you reaction to skibidi multiverse bloopers
@AliceIzuragi629114 сағат бұрын
persona scaling is fucking wild. joker at his highest is a outerversal entity
@FoxyBoy-mz2ys14 сағат бұрын
This is the biggest wank I ever seen about the verse that tuxedo mask wannabe isn't outerversal, also outerversal is just an instant win button nowadays. I would love to be a 3rd party to have 1 character kill the both of them.
@sanstheskeleton376612 сағат бұрын
What they didn't add Joker cans Heal Be immune to physical Be immune to magic I forget if that was a thing been awhile seen last played it Has the role of trickster that rebels against everything that could also mean reset everything to 0 meaning he might've not needed the recharge
@AliceIzuragi629111 сағат бұрын
@@sanstheskeleton3766 joker can solo most of fiction, he could even beat kratos and even give doom guy a challenge. he is busted
@solarfiringtiger425414 сағат бұрын
I Think eggman should win
@HeroTheHedgehog99914 сағат бұрын
Same here. I’m glad I’m not the only one rooting for him.
@deatharena22714 сағат бұрын
Nah Bowser
@poliorice360014 сағат бұрын
@deatharena227 nah, Sage blocking attacks from The End singlehandedly makes Eggman win, since The End is the literal concept of destruction which is more powerful than the several multiverse busters like Solaris, the Time Eater, and Void
@DynamiteRyper6 сағат бұрын
As a huge fan of JoJo & Persona, yeah they got this one right. I was scared until Joker won, but now I have no need to fear now!
@sevanlast907713 сағат бұрын
and also i mad about bardock lost
@worldofrandomness384514 сағат бұрын
Eggman for the win
@MikeDang-pm4co14 сағат бұрын
I don’t count eyes of heaven as canon. I believed both Giorno and Joker cannot beat eachother imo
@sanstheskeleton376612 сағат бұрын
Thought joker lose until I remember Joker cans Heal Be immune to physical Be immune to magic I forget if that was a thing been awhile seen last played it Has the role of trickster that rebels against everything that could also mean reset everything to 0 meaning he might've not needed the recharge
@nikodemoliniak448214 сағат бұрын
This is peak
@yeetman134413 сағат бұрын
ye this is kinda a lowball Joker as well due to how nuts the Persona/SMT cosmology is since Collective Unconscious likely contains countless universes and by some definitions assisted by the SMT lore extends past conventional dimensional scaling and all that kinda stuff so on highball, hes stronger than most of fiction. Beyond that he also has resistance out the ass including causality related ones.
@kostakonomi13 сағат бұрын
Tldr bullshit god vs bullshit devil its not who is stronger but who has the better bullshit mind to outsmart the other