He broke the rule, when it was a rule, should not be overturned
@joeswanson54862 ай бұрын
Ankleav broke a rule that’s still a rule and got a No contest.
@joeswanson54862 ай бұрын
A lot of the refs fault too
@JamesDuffy-pc8bc2 ай бұрын
@@joeswanson5486 it's 100% the refs fault, it's up to their discretion. Weidman just eye poked a guy to a KO win... Whats your point?
@trollking3852 ай бұрын
He didn't know that he couldn't throw elbows like that
@draggngmac3862 ай бұрын
This guy is oblivious
@riftwalk25462 ай бұрын
Sure remove that lose but disqualified the rest of his fights when he eye poke fighters
@ChrisKane-ml3em2 ай бұрын
Defend your eyes
@vuklazarmargic66512 ай бұрын
Remove that loss,and put his loss to Reyes instead
@joeswanson54862 ай бұрын
@@vuklazarmargic6651nah just erase it and make jones undefeated I also think he lost to Reyes but robberies don’t get overturned
@jordan64002 ай бұрын
Then what? Everyone who ever eye poked someone gets the loss? Dummy
@LOSTNFOUND2232 ай бұрын
@@vuklazarmargic6651hot take , I like it
@kadencarter73922 ай бұрын
Then we are gonna have to overturn his fight with Dominick Reyes because he got his ass handed to him in that fight💯
@1313UD2 ай бұрын
Nah@Azomey-dk9bq
@AxelMQuintana2 ай бұрын
@Azomey-dk9bq Watch the fight again.
@DangerD-m9i2 ай бұрын
@@AxelMQuintana I mean if you think from a judges prospective jon never stopped pushing foward been the most dominant champion in history which plays a roll in judging a close fight on a championship matter, A 104 of 166 Jon. 116 of 259 Dom. Jon had a higher sig strike landed percentage 166 104 landed for jon didnt miss many. he and jon attempted over 8 takedowns in that fight and landed 2 of them with 1:41 sec control time with dom having none, so the only thing dom did better then jon was slightyl more sig strikes thats it jon never backed down the whole fight and was a dom champion during the fight. There for jon won that fight fair and square from the judges prospectiv. Majority of this is based from the last 2 rounds which were dominant by jon
@Rashers-2 ай бұрын
@@DangerD-m9ii enjoyed this break down ✅
@aydennso2 ай бұрын
@@DangerD-m9ithat's all well and good except the fight is scored round by round. Which doesn't make sense that all judges agreed that Jones won. Whoever the judge who gave Jones 4 rounds should be looked into.
@andrewhunter59422 ай бұрын
The loss should stay just from all the cheating he’s done
@Boxbeat6662 ай бұрын
Should be jon fingers jones 😅
@NUNYA-BIZNESS2 ай бұрын
cry louder 🤣🤣
@TheGreatestBoxing72 ай бұрын
He even loss to Reyes, so this adds up
@mariobtron59072 ай бұрын
Eye poke is allowed in wrestling so
@kyloren49492 ай бұрын
Eye Poke Jones..goat my ass
@jougetsu2 ай бұрын
Yes erase it and add 2 losses against gustafsson and reyes
@thecdog092 ай бұрын
Idk about Gustafson but Reyes definitely beat him
@frankgallagur20452 ай бұрын
I honestly still dont know how a spinning elbow was worth 20 significant strikes @@thecdog09
@Almighty_12 ай бұрын
@@thecdog09"definitely"
@Jamainee2 ай бұрын
Reyes beating him could be argued but gustafsson did not beat jones lol
@Handleyourstuff2 ай бұрын
Heck NO. HE NEW BETTER
@joeswanson54862 ай бұрын
He was on mma at that time for 2 years maybe and only a few months into the UFC so not really
@AxelMQuintana2 ай бұрын
@@joeswanson5486 You enter a competition without knowing the rules? Are you a Bones' fan?
@GaretAlan502 ай бұрын
@@AxelMQuintanaI really dislike Jones, but it should’ve been a NC. He was obviously confused after the fact, and many other fighters get away with 12-6s
@AxelMQuintana2 ай бұрын
@@GaretAlan50 I never discussed about it being a lose or a nc, but it can't be a win or just be deleted, Jones even if it was his first fight he can't just don't know the rules, even if he forgot about it, it's can´t just not exist, it happened. And it's very unsportsman like and very unprofessional of him for either playing dumb or really don't knowing the rules of a competition he was participating in. He's not the (at leats) sportsman he once was. He admit in the past that he lost to Reyes, now he doesn't want something that isn't a perfect record so he can keep the people saying he's the best ever and keep his title defending it every 4 years against older or worse opponents that are clearly not in his level. He went against an 40+ y/o DC being a hungry young man, and now that he's that 40 y/o man, he doesn´t want to fight against the interim. When the real undisputed champion steps a foot again in the octagon, he has to go against the interim, so he can prove he's the undisputed. He just wants to strip Aspinall from his title so he can still duck him. Jones is a disgrace for the sport nowadays. He once was the best ever, and he could even with losses like GSP. But people help him to have this kind of ego by ignoring his recent issues, just looking at the past, and the good part not the bad part. But a carrear is from start to end. I'm just saying that if even the UFC or more specifically DANA gets what his golden child wants, then UFC is just a joke (I think it has been for a while now, but now it's just worse).
@GaretAlan502 ай бұрын
@@AxelMQuintana I don’t think he wanted it to be a win or completely gone, I think he wanted it to be a NC. He wants the “1” in the loss category to be gone. 12-6 are a very controversial and hard to regulate rule, what counts as a 12-6? Can you do it from guard? It’s only a 12-6 if the clock is on the ceiling and clocks don’t go on ceilings. Should Alex be disqualified for KOing Jiri with them in the first fight? It’s just so hard to regulate.
@MrJman9672 ай бұрын
Only if he fights Aspinall
@lucaspanto96502 ай бұрын
If they change that to a TKO win they should also change the Reyes fight to a loss
@chznts52272 ай бұрын
You can’t overturn things that were illegal at the time. Doesn’t make sense
@Muhammad_The_Goat_Ali2 ай бұрын
Yeh you should like some fighters pop for peds and you want to still count it as a win
@masonmorgan69982 ай бұрын
@@Muhammad_The_Goat_Alinope, get caught cheating, get disqualified. Roids, eye pokes, illegal elbows, groin strikes, etc. If they’re illegal and you do it, it’s your fault for not reading the bout contract you’re handed. They literally tell you in the contract what’s illegal.
@TheProperSquatch2 ай бұрын
@@masonmorgan6998be fr u wouldn’t watch the ufc if it was that strict, we would have never gotten to see Alex sleep hill if they were that strict
@masonmorgan69982 ай бұрын
@@TheProperSquatch Alex saying he’s fine and sleeping him is different than somebody getting repeatedly kicked in the groin saying “I want him to stop kicking me in the fucking dick” which has happened. And I would watch UFC, don’t assume I’m like you.
@masonmorgan69982 ай бұрын
@@TheProperSquatch don’t assume I’m like you. I don’t watch cheaters. Alex was a different situation, it was an accidental groin kick and the fight was about to be stopped to check on Alex, but Alex said he was alright and wanted to keep fighting. There have been many other fighters who have been groin kicked and weren’t okay, and I absolutely believe the person who groin kicked should be disqualified.
@curtiswest40702 ай бұрын
Honestly, we all know he destroyed in that fight, but the loss should not be taken from his record. The rules were what the rules were. He did a 9 to 6 elbow, which was illegal and got him disqualified. He has had numerous fights where the fighters kept going and he could have been disqualified.
@inurculo38112 ай бұрын
12 to 6
@EduardoTamayo-k2g2 ай бұрын
Lmao what a coward definitely Change the loss if the rule is changed, dumb fucking rule in the first place 😂
@EduardoTamayo-k2g2 ай бұрын
Honestly you just hate this guy 😂
@MariusClay-hd4vp2 ай бұрын
Honestly that fight should’ve been stopped long before those elbows came into play. Steve Mazagatti sucked. He was destroying Hamil. Fight was over.
@munchingpickle6232 ай бұрын
The problem is that elbow is so subjective if you watch it batch with a protractor even that’s not 12-6 more liek 11-7 which is legal so it’s just too subjective
@louisreme97632 ай бұрын
No, his only loss describe what type of fighter Jones is: dirty. He also deserves that loss for the Reyes fight
@johnobrien17592 ай бұрын
No, he lost. Those were the rules.
@JosephAllen-d2e2 ай бұрын
Hell no. He was disqualified for something that was illegal at the time he did it. A rule change after the fact doesn't change the fact that at the time, he was dq'd for breaking the rules.
@EduardoTamayo-k2g2 ай бұрын
@@JosephAllen-d2e found the goat hater guys
@NateDogg-S4P-Warzone1012 ай бұрын
Yeah except for you generate more power with your elbow from the side to side rather than 12 to 6
@JosephAllen-d2e2 ай бұрын
@user-ze7rc3xq3q Nah, you're just an ass kissing idiot, simping for Jones. You can't go back and change a loss after the rules change. Fighters fight according to the rules as they are written at the time of the fight. If he wanted a perfect record, he should have followed those rules and not gotten himself disqualified. I'm a fan of Jon Jones. He is the greatest fighter in modern history. But I live in the real world, not some revisionist fantasy. In the real world, he lost a fight because he got disqualified. I don't feel bad for him at all because he fights as dirty as a used tampon and, realistically, should have been disqualified many times. So fuck playing make believe like he didn't lose a fight. He deserves that loss on his record.
@joeswanson54862 ай бұрын
Dumb rule and jones was new to mma at the time dont understand what’s so bad about it turning to no contest
@rsnf51232 ай бұрын
@@EduardoTamayo-k2gi really don’t know why some of you guys are glazing this wife beating steroid abuser
@curturweider94732 ай бұрын
Absolutely not rules are rules that have to be followed that’s called common sense
@michaeldefrates26192 ай бұрын
Hell yeah and add an abstract to all his wins that dudes always on the sauce
@toe2toe1382 ай бұрын
Forget the past, fight Aspinall champ.
@kyloren49492 ай бұрын
He is Jon "Chicken" Jones..what do you expect
@TheAngryCanadian2 ай бұрын
Honestly. It's a moment of history that shouldn't be forgotten. If jones believes in god like he claims, then he believes everything has a place and a reason.
@slimjongun51112 ай бұрын
Jones should have all his wins overturned because of steroids
@Himmothy17382 ай бұрын
That doesn’t make any sense since the rule was that it was an illegal move back then
@AstroTrain1002 ай бұрын
The Reyes and 1st Gus fight wins should be overturned as well.
@A1-M1-AF2 ай бұрын
Take that loss of and add one against dominick reyes
@mang-ganern2 ай бұрын
'Rule is rule, move on!'
@Mattwest19852 ай бұрын
Yea, he demolished poor Hamill! Respect to anyone doing that shihhhh! But yea, Jon be undefeated.
@BobcatBlade2 ай бұрын
Me after losing my license for going 90 in a 45, 15 years ago: (There's a highway there now)
@Ar11402 ай бұрын
at most i feel like it should be switched to a nc it’s kinda stupid that jones only “loss” comes from beating his opponent so bad
@pax6572 ай бұрын
@@Ar1140 exactly. He didn’t lose I’d rather it be something else because the guy stopped defending himself
@Ar11402 ай бұрын
@@pax657 fr and now since the thing he got dq for is legal it should definitely be a no contest jones deserves a 27-0
@pax6572 ай бұрын
@@Ar1140 everyone agrees anyways that he won even the guy he beat
@jeremycremeans18542 ай бұрын
It's fine for him to keep the loss
@mithilpatel31462 ай бұрын
his whole resume should be removed for roiding throughout his whole career
@MiyamotoDGuts2 ай бұрын
Wouldn't that mess up things like Yan VS Aljo or did they only change the elbow
@DBShuford082 ай бұрын
The only way to get rid of it is to take away the rule that you can’t do a 12/6 elbow while on the ground which makes no sense anyways because you can get more power and velocity on impact from a 3 to 9 but that’s legal
@legendarypo1832 ай бұрын
they can do what they want…….ppl won’t forget…..🤷🏻
@froodmeister99852 ай бұрын
If it was anyone else they wouldn't remove it
@alimuh0072 ай бұрын
Absolutely yes
@whythe482 ай бұрын
I can't believe Matt Hammil actually claims that as a win a true fighter would say I don't want to win that way but Matt clings to that like he did something to beat Jones and it should definitely be removed
@davidbratcher59052 ай бұрын
Let warriors be warriors
@tebogolata41332 ай бұрын
It was a no contest
@raino1872 ай бұрын
No sir because that made u beast
@iambryn20122 ай бұрын
changing the rule now doesn’t change the fact it was a rule at the time. his opponent was following that rule so he should’ve been too
@grodt32342 ай бұрын
Only loss when the opponent bleeds out of his both eyes. Sounds pretty good.
@jadentovar17992 ай бұрын
Yes absolutely
@jax16272 ай бұрын
I’m all for it as long as it’s not just Jon jones that gets to over turn his. There are a lot of fighters that have this on their records.
@TheCambobsherwood2 ай бұрын
Why so he can just get another one when he fights Aspinall 😂
@Lary-4202 ай бұрын
They should change it when he becomes active
@leightcaine65372 ай бұрын
Go Tom 😂
@Schizogenius882 ай бұрын
The win over Reyes has to be overturned then
@justinwebb432 ай бұрын
The problem with erasing this loss is that all the wins become illegitimate because Jones may have been destroyed by someone’s illegal elbows that they never threw. It was illegal at the time and he broke the rules at the time. If anything change it to a no contest
@ItsLabRat2 ай бұрын
The moment he fights Tom, the moment anything he says becomes valid again.
@TonyJenny-yy2qm2 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@synishere2 ай бұрын
I think if a rule gets changed in the future, it shouldn’t change past issues. 12-6 elbows were illegal then, so jones lost to dq.
@junkrockjoey2 ай бұрын
Nope. His problems with passing tests should exclude him from ever fighting again
@rebelwithoutaclue93872 ай бұрын
It’s not up to Dana! He’s been trying to get it erased for years too!
@morxity2 ай бұрын
No it should not. When the fight occurred, it still was in effect.
@MedicineManII2 ай бұрын
The Athletic Commission has to overturn it Not Dana
@Meoffjackk012 ай бұрын
Dana has been trying to get it overturned for years. It's not up to him
@aydennso2 ай бұрын
I just count that loss as a win and count the Reyes win a loss. His record still makes sense being 27-1-1 that way.
@JackHoliday-np4zb2 ай бұрын
What loss? Mans undefeated #TeamJones
@dominicksignoretti3152 ай бұрын
I MEAN MAYBE FOR THE HISTORY BOOKS, Like 50 years from now they will look back and be like oh he was 27-1-0. But we as a people now having watched all his fights and know about the situation and just current rule change makes him always UNDEFEATED!!!
@godfromthecreator2 ай бұрын
Agreed remove it. Matt Hamill was being rag dolled in that fight. Jon Jones Owned him
@seanisnotjohn2 ай бұрын
Jones broke the rules. Get over it
@praveenshinchan63742 ай бұрын
Yeah, remove that 1 loss and add that 1 loss for the fight he lost against Reyes.
@impulse74082 ай бұрын
If that’s the case Royce Gracie’s fights should all be overturned
@winslowistaken2 ай бұрын
we dont overturn all the groin strike KOS so jones shouldnt get special treatment either
@tacotacotington36382 ай бұрын
The biggest problem with that loss was the fact it was stopped due to Matt Hamill not responding to verbal commands by the ref. The problem with that? Matt Hamill is deaf.
@redditQuests-v5r2 ай бұрын
I would agree if they go back to re-evaluate his win over dominic reyes
@Macndcheese2 ай бұрын
He should be calling for all the shit he did to be removed from his criminal record
@stantonwilliams2142 ай бұрын
Then adjust his fight with Reyes to a loss right
@Lazy_G_Flip2 ай бұрын
Well if you could change records bc of rule changes then you’d have to re write every PAT in football 😂
@sabastianbarnett65182 ай бұрын
"I shouldn't be charged with the Geneva Conventions, they were established after I committed that genocide!"
@lop3z8172 ай бұрын
Yup
@Desxu2 ай бұрын
No because even if it was overrules, Dominic beat him
@lukassteinbrenner756920 күн бұрын
Remove the loss via disqualification, then add the loss to domonick reyas
@camilogonzalez20732 ай бұрын
I think he should fight Tom aspinal
@AllanZilth-ck6wi2 ай бұрын
Jones does have one loss to Dominik Reyes we all remember that one 😎
@7074592 ай бұрын
What about his loss to Reyes and Gustafson? Will they count those two as losses?
@pablomartinez5032 ай бұрын
Bro it was unacceptable at the time therefore you were disqualified, just because some years later the rule changes doesn’t mean you should be forgiven, when the rule stood you broke it end of story
@ML-bk2eh2 ай бұрын
Dana white wants it removed more than Jones. It’s not his call tho .
@wabalaka1565Ай бұрын
Imagine if the traffic rule is that you drive on the right and Jon drive on the left and kill s.o. A few year later they changes the rule to driving on the left. Does that make Jon innocent murdered in previous accident?
@Pheenikcs2 ай бұрын
The rules were still the rules at the time
@Nonya23242 ай бұрын
how do we erase his win against reyes?
@williamjames60092 ай бұрын
I think 🤔 the loss should be ruled a no contest.,Jon was clearly dominating the fight when it was called.
@NWLMAMMAL2 ай бұрын
Dana's gonna do it
@andrewsaxon89462 ай бұрын
No shouldn't be removed . Dana has protected him enough already and bent rules even after multiple drug fails but everyone else gets banned forever
@Deathwish20322 ай бұрын
Think he should take it away. He seemed surprised himself when he got the DQ. Mean when you on a fight there are some things you won’t think of. And just do. Same when people knee someone while they on the ground. Cause of the leverage they have, they can’t really see that the person went down on one knee or even both. Same with boxing or any other combat sport.
@Baguette_Lord122 ай бұрын
No, im a fan of jones, but if it was any other fighter with an average record and gets disqualified for 12 to 6 elbows, im sure he will have a loss in his record, just because jones is undefeated doesnt mean they can change the rules for him
@JeffTheMan-xq8yx2 ай бұрын
REMATCH!
@iborntobedrunk10772 ай бұрын
No reason. Everyone knows he is unbeatable.
@vikz54132 ай бұрын
It used to be illegal to turn right on a red light at one point. Now that it is, I want my ticket refunded. Sounds stupid to you? Well, there you go.
@skiddadleskidoodle45852 ай бұрын
Yeah it also used to be illegal to run away from plantations as a slave, so did Any of the slaves back then have to stay in prisons for running away or were they released from prison after slavery was abolished?
@vikz54132 ай бұрын
@@skiddadleskidoodle4585 Any of those slaves got reparations? No? Didn't think so. That's the past move on.
@krnseu507312 күн бұрын
Of course not, by that logic turn over the loss of Petr Yan against Sterling since knees to the head’s of grounded opponents will be no longer banned. Oh almost forgot just give the belt back to him.
@corbo98382 ай бұрын
Maybe we can all come to a happy agreement on this. If they take that loss away they have to give him the loss he took to Reyes. 🥴
@OzzydkekАй бұрын
Then Dominick rages loss overturn to a win
@Jim-hm9ch2 ай бұрын
No. Leave it. It was the rule at the time.
@griffinspeaks26612 ай бұрын
I still think he is undefeated because he beat Matt regardless and he is still the goat.
@luissandoval15192 ай бұрын
It’s like people crying over marijuana charges 20 years ago. You still broke the rules, even if they have since changed
@raccoon_russian72232 ай бұрын
Then return the win of Dominick Rayes
@ivanchosenfew2 ай бұрын
Suuuuure suuuure sure
@ezacklee1152 ай бұрын
Should know the rules if you in the sport.
@TYLERORTIZ20212 ай бұрын
He’s never lost so record should reflect that
@JjhHutchinson2 ай бұрын
Reyes
@Kapitan072 ай бұрын
Yes
@tren85352 ай бұрын
no bc those were the rules at the time trt was allowed at the beginning and now isn't, so should every fighter who took trt and fought be stripped of their wins?
@modernchaos8999Ай бұрын
How many times did he test positive for roids? He shouldn't even be allowed to fight
@tehf00n2 ай бұрын
I say we erase it if he accepts the steroid use.
@brennangibsoNMMA2 ай бұрын
Guys, stop dogging, even Dana wants the lids removed, yall fr casuals