Jon Morosi REVEALS Potential Orioles Trade For Luis Castillo

[@brianbixby2620]

At this point Castillo is a number 3 with flashes of an ace. With this said he’s a big game pitcher, he’s at his best in the biggest gsmes

[@channelname575]

He's a consistent #3 or #2 who can win you any given game. AND he's a bargain at 24M per year whose locked in for 3 more years. Why do O's fans think they can get him from the M's for prospects they don't need? Or fringe MLBers? It's going to be painful to get him. As it should be.

[@danielhudson6594]

I think the window for Castillo is actually gone. I think we talked to the Mariners before we signed Morton. I think we talked to them and they probably wanted Mayo in return and we said no. I think snatched Morton to make sure we got a pitcher

[@matthew1452]

I don’t think people are adding in the extra value that DiPoto snuck in to the contract. If Castillo gets Tommy John between 2025-2027.. his vesting $25M year in 2028 becomes a $5M team option. In an era where pitchers are increasingly getting this injury, having some insurance built into the contract is huge. Castillo also has been a workhorse. This depends on the orioles and what they want to pay. Pay less in talent and take on the money? Great you get Castillo. Want any of the other four? Gonna take you multiple MLB ready pre arb bats. Just the way it is. Castillos $$$ is what makes him realistic without subtracting major pieces. Really hope we can make a trade happen. Orioles and M’s pair up nicely for a deal. You guys signed a 41 year old Charlie Morton, who had a 4.19 ERA, 99 ERA+, and very underwhelming analytics in his profile. For $15M. Yes Castillo is more expensive but he’s younger, durable, and has better underlying stuff. 93rd percentile fastball value & 82nd percentile breaking value. Also the current pitching market, Castillo is on a friendly deal. If you guys get him you will be happy. He’s a great pitcher and while he has declined slightly with age as expected, it’s only so noticeable when paired with our stellar young guys just entering their primes. If you guys get Castillo it would be a good addition for sure. For multiple years. Great veteran presence in your rotation also.

[@S_Over_Street]

As a Mariners fan, they are a “cheap” ownership as why they’re not willing to spend on or trade for anyone without adding onto their payroll of something like $150-$160 million payroll for 2025 season. It’s stated they have only $15 million currently this offseason they can spend. Luis Castillo cost something like $20+ million this season, they would prefer to shred that off their payroll. As why they’re looking to trade him. To the orioles for him + add in a prospect too for either Coby Mayo, Mountcastle or Jordan Westburg.

[@anthonydion6734]

Don't listen to everything you read/hear. The Mariners aren't going to come out and tell anyone what their max budget is. And it's not so much about being "cheap" (remember, they took on entire Arrozarena cost at deadline), it's an approach to FA that they don't desire to engage in LT deals with 30+ year olds. Few of those deals work out well. So good on them. And secondly, they engage with certain players, Walker and Santana for instance this winter, and neither opted to sign here, taking less money in Santana's case to play in CLE. This is also a common refrain. Hitters don't want to come to SEA. Fine. We'll draft, trade and develop our own

[@jeffnak5598]

Mountcastle is not a good upgrade and only jams the outfield and firstbase situation more. Mayo is the guy because the M's have no one there. Third is wide open and perfect for him.

[@dogtrainingplus]

Brian Matusz passed away - I'm really sorry to hear that.

[@questtech7148]

We gave away a future all-star, and another prospect with potential to get Burnes, and a year later we have nothing to show for it but 1 less future all-star. If we don't want to pay for free agents just roll the dice on what we have already.

[@arthurwilliams7886]

I’m only doing it if we get Coby Mayo.

[@mathis21]

Mariner fan here. I've been listening to your take on the potential for a trade, and it brings to my mind a slightly different scenario. What if Seattle was willing to eat $5 million of Castillo's contract, PLUS sends one of our top tier middle infielders, for Mayo?

[@jeffnak5598]

That's an insane overpay. Mayo for Castillo straight up is fair and really the only thing interesting to them. The M's have a first baseman, they have nothing at 3rd. Mayo is the guy. Any prospects added for the O's would be fringe prospects not of great value.

[@mathis21]

@@jeffnak5598 I'd like to believe that Castillo straight up for Mayo is a fair trade, but it really isn't. The bottom line is that the M's need to do something much more than the Orioles. Does that mean it's a desperation move? Maybe, but I don't think so.

[@jeffnak5598]

@mathis21 It is, though, and it's not difficult to see why. The pitching market is very valuable this year. Castillo would get close to 35 million in free agency in this market, so he's a bargain, not overpaid. Pitching is also more valuable than hitting. Fans need to quit buying into people who don't know what they're talking about when saying Castillo is expensive because he's not in this market. Mathew Boyd got almost 20 million, and he's not on Castillo's level. A mid starter in Cortes brought back one of the best closers in baseball for the Yankees. That says more about a starters' value than anything. Mayo is very fair straight up. Quit trying to act otherwise. There's a good reason Jerry isn't taking trash deals like Yoshida/Casas. He knows the value and won't be short changed because teams want to take advantage of our need for offense. We're better off keeping him if our demands aren't met, simple as that.

[@DennisK-q9g]

⁠I would disagree. Baltmore needs a top notch starter as much, if not more, then Mariners need a bat. Baltimore is not a championship contender without more starting pitching. Seattle needs too much to be a contender.

[@mathis21]

@@jeffnak5598 You are welcome to express your opinion. I believe you to be wrong, but I wont stoop to a personal attack and tell you to "quit trying to act otherwise".

[@Tommy_mri]

The fact that you couldn’t even remember the other names with a chance to start shows how mid those options are

[@RYANRIPKENMEDIA]

I get why you'd think that and I understand. All honesty, I just forgot who I had already mentioned. Reality is, Castillo is a solidified arm and upgrades any staff. I do think the Os have to decide if they let some of the young guys figure it out. If they do go that route, there will certainly be more pressure on them to perform early.

[@seizethecarp_]

@@RYANRIPKENMEDIA "Solidified arm"? Slot him in the Orioles rotation and its likely as their #1. Under contact for 3 more years at under market value? Sounds pretty solid.

[@Tommy_mri]

@@RYANRIPKENMEDIACastillo is my favorite pitcher in all of baseball. He is not the one to trade for. They have 4 others to go for. Trade Heston and others for one of those guys. Mariners if they want to play hardball be my guest. I live in Seattle and their fanbase is fed up too. That offense can’t get it done

[@thebookdoc.writing.and.editing]

Ryan... You and I have talked about eating hot dogs from the pack without cooking them. These casts are getting better as they stay shorter. I'd like to see Cease. But I am not disappointed with the Os as they are entering the season as there is so much time to do other things as the season progresses. "Fans" should not dictate the direction of the team. Intelligent reflection should.

[@billykl2790]

Don't know why your talking about post season with this team its a lot worse than last year. To many subtractions with NO real additions. As long as Elias is GM there is no World Series the report about him definitely seems true. To much of a coward to give big money and be responsible for it

[@FrodohTBaggins]

I can tell you right now, it’s not mounty or Heston they’re looking at, it’s westburg, mayo and a pitcher

[@Methoes123]

@FrodohTBaggins : I'd only trade Mayo for Pirates J.Jones straight up! Seattle would take Mountcastle and Beavers or Fabian. No way Elias gives them Mayo! If he does? He should be FIRED!

[@FrodohTBaggins]

@ good thing you’re just an idiot behind a computer and not a GM, cause you clearly know nothing about Baseball and nothing about how trades work.

[@Michael-id9bw]

​@@Methoes123 Curious why you think that the M's would be cool with Mountcastle as the headliner in a trade when they already have a first baseman in Raley that put up better numbers, and did it playing half his games in the worst hitters park in the league? They are certainly not that desperate.

[@zachremsberg3925]

@@Methoes123 Mayo is not a proven bat in the MLB. That is a huge risk for the M's to trade for when we need immediate impact. Westburg is understandably off the table for anyone who's name is not Bryce Miller/Bryan Woo. But Castillo + high prospect -> Mayo + Mountcastle seems very reasonable.

[@arthurwilliams7886]

For all u O’s fans that are saying Castillo isn’t good anymore, you guys are way off. His stuff is still Filthy! He’s a top of rotation pitcher. When he plays really good teams he plays like an Ace most of the time and when we play a bottom feeder team I don’t know why but he’s not focused and will get hit around by them. If he had the O’s offense last yr he would have been 16-7 instead of 11-12 with a terrible M’s offense. I’m a lifelong Mariner fan and a lot of people are talking down on Castillo like he’s over the hill. That’s not the case. He still has top of the rotation stuff. Now…. Please give us Coby Mayo for Castillo.

[@louislove299]

I feel like I am the only Orioles fan who thinks the pitching is not our issue and that the hitting in the summer last year ruined our season and now we are about to lose Tony. The Yankees are going after Arraez. Sometimes we are so late to the game. It just drives me crazy. We need an on base hitter.

[@keithwhitmore7648]

Why are we talking about giving up MORE than what we gave up for Burnes? Castillo is 32 and is owed like $67m?

[@koseipiper2414]

Castillo has more years of control under him. Burnes came to Baltimore with one year left, Castillo would come with 3-4 years depending on options and what not.

[@JohnSteele-ov1pc]

​years of control is only a big benefit if the player is underpaid

[@keithwhitmore7648]

@@koseipiper2414 years of control only matters if they are pre arbitration or significantly underpaid.

[@jackd8345]

Yes there are 3 years of control and look at the price that pitchers are getting

[@jackd8345]

​@@JohnSteele-ov1pc yes look at the price pitchers are getting this year

[@adamb3422]

Castillo is 3 more years with a 4th vesting option if he doesn’t get TJ in final 2 years of his contract just a heads up

[@mattcannon7334]

Coming from a Mariners fan, I'm skeptical Castillo gets moved. Their front office is dead-set on minimizing payroll AND getting a staple middle-infield bat, and I think those two things are too much for the potential of a declining Castillo, even if he IS relatively inexpensive.

[@kensilverstone1656]

The commentaries i've seen mention Montcastle or Kjerstadt, Povich or McCade (forget his name), and Urias. Is that too much for the Orioles to give up?

[@RYANRIPKENMEDIA]

I think it would be. I personally am okay with the Os riding the rotation they have to start year. However, if you want to solidify the rotation a little more, then you go and try and make a move for another solid arm.

[@kensilverstone1656]

@@RYANRIPKENMEDIA Thanks. I feel it's too much to include Povich or Kramer, as has been cited, along with Kjerstadt. But what are the O's going to do with 4 first basemen: Montcastle, Ohern, Kjerstadt and Mayo, though I think Heston can play left and right fields.

[@MikeAllen-v1u]

Sign Flaherty and Scott. Would only lose one draft pick. Solidify the starting rotation and the bullpen. We don't have to give up a bat.

[@micawells4608]

We wasn't lacking vet pitching

[@BrianJones-cu2sx]

No way I’d move Kjerstad. We let Hays, Santander and soon to be an afterthought Cedric Mullins play its course. Kjerstad is more than deserving of a shot at everyday play at this point.. We can move Beavers, Cedric, possibly Mounty, Jud Fabian, you name it. We can’t count on O’Neil to be healthy and Kjerstad figures to be slotted in at the opposite corner outfield spot and maybe even 1st base. Outfield of the future with platoon DH possibility should be Kjerstad, Cowser, Bradfield Jr, and Honeycutt.

[@Methoes123]

Cal: when light is shined on crap? It's still crap!

[@larryblotter]

Thinks Castillo is expensive, enjoy Morton fellas

[@RJPDay]

Mariners fans, what do you think of Ryan Mountcastle, Chayce McDermott, and Jud Fabian for Luis Castillo? That’s a package I’d be willing to give if I’m Mike Elias, but I’m not currently the O’s GM.

[@adamb3422]

Ms don’t want or need Mountcastle or Fabian either, they have a dozen AAAA OF on the roster already, plus Mounty costs a bit and 1B isn’t of high need. Ms would say Kjerstad, McDermott, Urias and Kremer. Fun thing with the Ms is they’re fine keeping him. Will rollout the best rotation in the league again and gladly have a workhorse of 175 IP+ every season be their number 5

[@weschester5432]

Hard no for Mountcastle.

[@Michael-uu7zq]

Big Pass

[@haddonfieldslasher7932]

Bettet just be Mayo if anything

[@mitlab80]

Whether or not they get Castillo, they have to after Cease or Gallen next year.

[@Payythakidd]

No they don’t draft a couple guys instead of another outfielder

[@adamb3422]

That requires $$ tho… sadly

[@SocialSportsPadPodcast]

Let’s go O’s

[@Methoes123]

If Elias over pays to cover his butt, it still hurts the teams farm system!

[@cowboysnation3472]

Luis isn’t near the same pitcher imo. It would be cheaper to grab Cease with one year left SD will grab Sasaki and cut Dylan loose for cheaper return. We gave the Marlins a sweetheart deal for Trevor bleeping Rogers at the deadline, so we should definitely make a move now Vs the deadline and give guys away again for a minor league arm

[@Methoes123]

Castillo, Flaherty, and Cease are not worth the cost. Elias is trying to cover his butt now at any cost!

[@micawells4608]

I swear y'all love him cause he's Cal son this dude don't think the Orioles can do no wrong

[@Juds11]

HYPOCRITE 2.0. He peddles every day, defending the Os stupid moves or lack of spending😢

No. We love him because he's Ryan.

[@Methoes123]

Cal: O's don't find a real ACE for this third rate pitching staff, there will be no Post Season and both Elias, and that incompetent Hyde should be FIRED! Castillo is NO ACE by any standard!

[@seanwjones07]

Trading for Castillo is essentially a 3yr deal for $75 mil which is steal for a number 2 type starter. I’m hoping the Ms keep him but they are desperate to shed payroll.

[@RYANRIPKENMEDIA]

Thanks for the comment Sean. Exactly why Castillo is very desirable. With the way the pitching market is, his contract is very appealing and he is a solidified arm in a rotation. We will see how it all plays out!

[@doctorstrainlove6318]

Can we get. One of the younger dudes atleast for that price?

[@jeffgreen3272]

Mayo/Kremer for Castillo /Ford

[@donsmith3483]

Let's be honest. The Orioles rotation as it stands, is not a playoff rotation. They need a starter that moves the rotation slots down. Someone that is AS GOOD as Eflin/GRod. Not to mention Eflin/Morton will be gone after this season, causing this musical chairs activity again.....

[@KennethBeath]

We are ABSOLUTELY better already than we were last year. Bautista is worth more than Burnes. Plus we were super beat up last year

[@jakeguthall7011]

Realistically we’re still beat up, we don’t know Grod is fully healthy, Burnes is gone, Eflin is solid but after that Bradish is still out til AT LEAST September and we’re shaky everywhere else

[@billykl2790]

Your crazy or mental if you think this team is better than last year. A bunch of back end rotation pitchers and no number 1. Also subtracting 44 homerun. The closer is great but no starter

[@Methoes123]

O's should be going after Seattle's Miller, not Castillo . Miller is worth the cost!

[@adamb3422]

Westburg and Kjerstad is the bare minimum starting point just a heads up.

[@Methoes123]

@adamb3422 I'd never give up Westberg!

[@Methoes123]

Westy is the keystone of the team. When Westy got hurt, everything fell off the cliff, hitting wise.

[@adamb3422]

@@Methoes123 same with Miller. Put up the same stats as Corbin Burnes last year and is 5 years younger and pre-arb. You want miller you’re paying the haul for miller.

[@jasonpeters6600]

Westy would be just the start for any of the other 4 mariners pitchers. Gilbert or miller would likely cost Holliday.

[@jeffclogston3305]

Castillo is a bum. He was 11-12 with a 3.40 era last year has never won more then 15 he did once. Two 14 win seasons . They need to find a better trade partner. The have young talent to shed. They can't keep everyone they can't afford it. Orioles have plenty of guys start locking up these young guys like the braves did and figure out how to get good young pitching.

[@S_Over_Street]

No one of the Mariners starting rotation had 15 wins or more cause the offense was that bad throughout proving no run support. That’s not on Castillo or anyone in that rotation

[@moneyline_0109]

Wins don’t matter and haven’t for 10 years

[@adamb3422]

He’s a bum but would most likely be your #2 starter. Got it.

[@arthurwilliams7886]

Dude if Castillo had the O’s offense last yr he would’ve had probably 16-7 record. But the M’s offense was terrible last yr. Castillo is still really good. His stuff is filthy!

[@jeffclogston3305]

@@arthurwilliams7886 this would be there last move for a starter . It has to be for a true #1 type. Can't be for a #3 in that case they shoulda signed Verlander for a year and bought time.

[@patrickdare5356]

I would offer Mountcastle, McDermott, and Fabian or Beavers for Kirby.

[@chrisschauble8314]

and you would be quickly rejected.

[@RYANRIPKENMEDIA]

Yeah Kirby would take a whole heck of a lot more. Fantastic pitcher, and just entering his prime.

[@brianbixby2620]

No deal

[@golfmaniac007]

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[@lawrencecole2986]

lol ummm as an M's fan you might wanna change that and start with Mayo, and keep on going.