Jonathan Wells: Science and Theistic Evolution [God & Evolution]

Can you believe in God and evolution at the same time? What is "theistic" evolution, and how consistent is it with traditional theism? What challenges does Darwin's theory pose for Protestants, Catholics, and Jews? Is it "anti-science" to question Darwinian theory? Explore these questions and more in this conference at Biola University.
Sponsored by the Discovery Institute and Biola's Master of Arts in Science and Religion.
October 16, 2010.

[@user-mk9qy4yd5t]

God is not misleading us. He created the world and all things in it as he chose, and he told us what he did. Praise the Lord.

[@chanceratcliff5637]

Very enjoyable and informative. Thanks to Jonathan Wells, and to Biola University for making this available.

[@lambo58]

Very enjoyable?

[@WizzRacing]

I'm sure that Collins and Dawkins will at least say they were wrong in jumping to conclusions that were known to be false assertions. This is what happens when you have an idea driven by dogmatic ideology and not scientific evidence or inference to the truth of ones statement. What I would like to know more about is embryonic cell and how it tells the DNA what to build, how to build it and In what place. This would mean mutations and natural selection by unguided process is DOA as it's not the DNA or protein that determines the body plan. If anybody knows where to get more on that research let me know.

[@ronaldkelly7555]

Didn't you know that evolutionists make most of their arguments from speculations, fabrications and outright fraud. That is the level of evolutionary proof that have always filled the textbooks of kids. I grew up with many of the Icons Of Evolution that Wells book debunked.

[@johnpc6782]

@@ronaldkelly7555 Jeremiah 5:4 KJV: "Surely these [are] poor; they are foolish: for they know not the way of the LORD," Matthew 22:29"Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God." -this is atheists,indeed they are foolish and poor, and they act and speak accordingly. and what will they do in the day of judgement of Lord of hosts?wont they run in caves and holes like mice? as it is written : "Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the LORD"Isaiah 2:10

[@Metsada007]

This man speaks the truth, I've just ordered several of his books. Stephen Meyer is also great.

[@AbrarManzoor]

In my humble opinion Jonathan wells is the only person in ID which makes sense because he rejects common ancestry unlike many theistic evolutionists which had taken a strange position.

[@ozowen5961]

Then he is wrong.

[@BibleResearchTools]

_"He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end." -- Eccl __3:11__ KJV_

[@patldennis]

Where were you 16 years ago when. The Discovery Institute was trying to distance themselves from religion? 😅😅😅😅

[@bensonongoma1504]

Amen

[@BibleResearchTools]

@@patldennis, they "evolved." 😎 Dan

[@sanfrois]

I've got the truth, so I will look for it, for exemple there ... Yes ! I found the truth...

[@aquillafleetwood8180]

Google the Northern Cross, by Aquilla Fleetwood, youtube! Google Night Signs, by Aquilla Fleetwood, youtube!

[@Scribe13013]

Yup...i'm not gonna watch the whole thing but just agreeing with the title

[@charleskannal]

Our marvelous, mysterious world shows many signs of intelligent design. To believe in a Designer is perfectly rational. Jonathan Wells effectively lays bare the underlying bias toward random chance as an explanation in many scientific theories.

[@edmathews1817]

Thank you Jonathan wells, you have for me bridged that previously unanswered Gap between theistic evolution and intelligent design. Ed M

[@logia7]

what about process structuralism?

[@charleskannal]

What if process structuralism were part of a design?

[@TheCannonofMohammed]

I think God and Sunday School is really cool and all but God needed a little help in getting things started and looked to Charles Darwin. I mean I think its pretty obvious. I've been a Christian all my life so I know pretty much exactly what God can and cannot do. (There is NO WAY God could have created everything in 6 days. More like 10-15, actually.)

[@suppiluiiuma5769]

God is omnipotent; He can do literally anything ; even create a rock so big He cannot lift it and lift it anyway as He Himself determines what is and what is not possible. I'm not a Christian personally (I'm a Hindu) , so I don't believe God created the world in six days (took less according to my scriptures) ; but He very well could have ; He could have said "Let it be so " and it would have instantly been so ; so giving Him six days is actually extremely generous and something He would have done so to be artistic ; like dancing or writing a book, but ultimately He would even have needed a minute to do it. I would encourage you to believe that He did it in six days, because you are a Christian, but to view it as the Creator's artistic flare, not a period of time He took because He required it.

[@sebente]

Being religious will take you nowhere. I suggest you find the God of the Bible and not the idols or false one you are accustomed to. But most importantly be repent and saved in the Name of Jesus Christ.

[@cowtoyscbc]

My major question aside from those of Stephen Meyers Questions are : Does BioLogos and others committed the Theistic Evolution concept accept Eugenics of Darwin in The Decent of Man??

[@kyleboffa793]

natural selection ACTING ON mutations

[@muhammadashshiddieqi8653]

Jj

[@Nebulon5000]

lets talk more about J Wells and not science, that's the scientific spirit!

[@Nebulon5000]

Ur right, his PHD in molecular biology is just to look good.........

[@Serene-Solace4455]

Maybe you have digestive juices for a brain, you seem to be incapable of understanding the gravity of the subject matter; this means your Darwin's idol is nothing but false and big fraud. And yes, his two PhDs do check, not for show.

[@patldennis]

Yep

[@Metsada007]

Some verses from the Qur'an about creation : "And Allah has caused you to grow from the earth a progressive growth. [71:17] "What is the matter with you that you do not attribute to Allah due grandeur. While He has created you in stages?" [71:13-14] "Who perfected everything which He created and began the creation of man from clay." [32:7] "Has there [not] come upon man a period of time when he was not a thing [even] mentioned?" [76:1]

[@howtodoit4204]

Include the verses which mention earth made from water

[@sdsteeler09]

comment below this one: wtf?

[@ernesttownsend3825]

Does all this verbiage destroy Neo-Darwinism? The second question is does it support Intelligent Design? It obviously doesn’t support Creationism and a Young Earth Creation. What is really the purpose of this rambling talk?

[@spatrk6634]

creationists think that if they talk against abiogenisis and evolution. that it will magicaly make jewish brozne age mythology real

[@sebente]

He is pointing people to true science from the evolution fairy tale fantasy.

[@jimtrueblue99]

Why is a Moonie at Biola? Don't they know what this guy really believes?

[@muhammadashshiddieqi8653]

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[@larrybedouin2921]

Theistic evolution??? Good grief! There is no evolution, only devolution.

[@ozowen5961]

And yet, evolution is observed.

[@larrybedouin2921]

@@ozowen5961 Nonsense! There is only entropy from generation to generation.

[@ozowen5961]

@@larrybedouin2921 Incorrect. Beneficial mutations are observed facts. Both in lab and in nature.

[@galaxyrider9599]

They are only beneficial short-term but destructive in the long run.

[@sebente]

Name one beneficial mutation. Provide evidence of evolution being observed.

[@skywalker9770]

Great; junk DNA ain't junk but if you have a Darwinian paradigm you'll come to the wrong conclusion every time

[@CesarClouds]

"The existence of noncoding RNAs such as ribosomal RNA and tRNA was known in the 1960s, long before ENCODE. The existence of snoRNAs, snRNAs, regulatory RNAs, and various catalytic RNAS were known in the 1980s, long before ENCODE. Other RNAs such as miRNAs, piRNAS, and siRNAs were well known in the 1990s, long before ENCODE" - Larry Moran It seems ENCODE erred, junk DNA is junk DNA.

[@ozowen5961]

Junk DNA is junk DNA. Not all of what was regarded as junk DNA is junk DNA. None of the discoveries about junk DNA were made by creationists. Which means it was evolutionary scientists who did that work. Which means the Darwinian paradigm was in action and finding out new stuff. Creationism is claims minus facts.

[@muhammadashshiddieqi8653]

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[@muhammadashshiddieqi8653]

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Jonathan Wells is a washed up old fraud, like most creationists. Selling lies for tithe.

[@Metsada007]

Some verses from the Qur'an about creation : "Allah has created every [living]creature from water. And of them are those that move on their bellies, and of them are those that walk on two legs, and of them are those that walk on four. Allah creates what He wills. Indeed, Allah is over all things competent"[24:45] "Say, [O Muhammad], "Travel through the land and observe how He began creation. Then Allah will produce the final creation. Indeed Allah , over all things, is competent." [29:20]