How Can We Protect Our Children From Wokeism and Its Implicit Satanism?

[@markovannash7129]

"Literally sacrificing animals to change the weather isn't it." That's right let's use the right words. @ 6min 35sec

[@BindingTheYoke]

You can just place the numeric 6:37 and it will hyperlink to the time slot btw

[@rebbrown7140]

​@TerrienFr I'm sorry but everything you've written here and the quote you provided seem like a jumbled mess of logic. I don't even know where to start.

[@earthenaaron6766]

It is going to become increasingly clear what people worship. Rituals are only going to become more and more popular. May the Lord bless us with the wisdom to navigate these coming times!

[@ninjason57]

I almost hope it does. It makes it much easier to identify what to avoid

[@24tommy109]

yea synagogue of satan springs to mind

[@jonathandurham5031]

Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on us ☦️

[@joer9156]

Amen.

[@giovannimartin3239]

I know this was serious but I’m just imagining a man seeing this live and saying that and fainting lmao.

[@manu.z.]

This is the kind of videos we need to push through. I felt accompanied. Thank you very much.

[@jayjaychadoy9226]

My imagination, a few years after receiving Jesus, allowed me to see Jesus pick me, as a little child wearing a pink dress, and raise me up by His hands and arms. He was laughing lovingly and joyously, and was so delighted with me as his child. I tried to paint that image as best I could, at the time. 😀✝️❣️

[@alrightthengreat]

Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

[@CK-dp6je]

I was in Paris two years ago, I was happy to see no face tattoos, crazy piercings and no freaky looking people at all, and no obesity. I was shocked to see the Olympics. So sad!

[@jberrocalucf]

Are you well ?? What are you doing going around judging people by looks alone ? Judge character which has to be cultivated. Don’t let fear get a grip on you. May I ask .. who did Jesus hang around with ? Anwser that question and ask if you are following yeshua .

[@bengreen171]

so basically what you're saying is that you walked around with your eyes shut, inventing fantasies about people who don't look like you just to get upset by the images in your head.

[@Myke_thehuman]

Holy shit...the Democrats are right. You people are actually really weird. I mean who goes around thinking OMG that person walking down the street has a nose piercing! That's so distressing to me!! How dare they do that to their nose....

[@jberrocalucf]

@@wes555 in calm now lol

[@chdao]

Jonathan is right. The cat is out of the bag. It is very clear now how secular programming plays out. As someone who was raised in public school and Christian. I can see now that I need to homeschool my kids and find a healthy church community to be part of. I don't mind them being aware of what secularism thinks, but I do want them to know the difference between a man and a woman. And I do want them to have traditional values. Traditionalism has survived thousands of years because it works. Woke-ism will crash and burn, while traditional values continue. This is what Jordan Peterson meant by being "true." False ideologies will die out soon enough. We just have to stick to our values.

[@TheExtremeCube]

Home schooling is child abuse

[@WhoIsLikeHim]

Yeah this is what I disagree with liberalism. Because they have the sense that traditional values are totally incompatible with progress. But this is totally wrong. Like Jonathan said: "this world is built on certain patterns". If we want to build a system, that system should behave according to the patterns of the world. Or else we will fail. And liberalism doesn't acknowledge these patterns.

[@WhoIsLikeHim]

And Christianity from what I understand from Jonathan is the pattern of the world. It does not destroy the patterns of the world rather it transcends those patterns.

[@RunninUpThatHillh]

My kids have always been homeschooled. I've never sheltered them from the crazies, though. As teens they can go wherever online. Kids are smart enough to see how mentally ill it all is. Really getting a good look at it, they recoil. I could not let it be a mystery to be curious about.

[@DFMoray]

Find an Orthodox Church.

[@micahjobbins7041]

Courage to be upright is what is needed. Without the power to do just that, knowing what we should be doing is just knowledge of why we are condemned. Teaching Christians how to stop giving away that power is just one thing that can help.

[@Wholly_Fool]

And in most churches its not even morality that is elevated, but "reading the gospel" as if that alone means anything.

[@antonia6059]

I agree so much that the solution is to be Close to your kids! pray together, eat together, laugh and have fun, show your children that you care and that you are interested in them and when necessary discipline them. It is extremely difficult for kids these days especially girls. My daughter gets accused of being all kinds of “phobic” by her friends but I think she handles it really well. And I’ve seen her friends move a little more to the center.

[@daves-c8919]

Steady hands, open eyes. Compassion is still necessary, but there’s no reason to give up what you believe in your soul. Minimum necessary force. Maximum possible love.

[@miketacos9034]

Teach your children to think for themselves and practice discernment. That way you don’t need to micromanage, and you can talk through questions together.

[@VladikaRade1813]

The best thing I ever did was pull my kids out of public schools.

[@rudivandoornegat2371]

Seeing the world in terms of Power (God has absolute power) and the oppressor vs the oppressed is the revolutionary ideology of the rebellion in the heavens before they were kicked out down to earth, yes. Brilliant

[@ImTheSlime]

Many people seem to think the Paris ceremony was only about Dionysus. It’s quite apparent that it was a juxtaposition of the Last Supper and the Pagan Greek pantheon. Consider the symbolism used there.

[@Carlsbadman767]

Yep, the outrage is pretty absurd.

[@myhatmygandhi6217]

I'll have to look at it again but I do think it was just them doing Dionysius because he's Greek and the Greeks invented the Olympics. I could be wrong though.

[@bobSeigar]

​@@myhatmygandhi6217 Why would the God of Laziness and Hedonism be venerated at the Olympics? Also, Christ = Dionysus is a second century polemic, courtesy of the Cult of Pan. (Pagans)

[@InnovativeSaint]

From Christ to hedonism.

[@RunninUpThatHillh]

I'm never outraged by perceived mockery or disrespect of Christianity. That's between them and God.

[@devonnorris1586]

You are so much fun to listen to guys! Thanks for putting this stuff out.

[@moderbro5608]

God bless you

[@janineskywalker527]

Whatever I want ! = Do what thou wilt! J.

[@RivoningoBaloyi-yu5iz]

“The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist”-Charles Baudelaire “The second greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he is the good guy”-Ken Ammi”

[@el88997]

we would have to talk about the people from the old testament, who are promoting it

[@micahjobbins7041]

When you know, then the possibility of not giving them your power exists. Unfortunately, many still believe that we are all guilty of something that just didn't happen.

[@kennethanderson8827]

If you think that’s bad, you didn’t witness the festival of disgust that I was unfortunately immersed in on the south shore of Kauai from 07-13 to 07-23. It was beyond gross, and I was kinda taken for a ride by those pedophilic weirdos. I felt like a zoo animal. I felt like a dupe. But I ultimately got the hell outta there, and forever away from my corrupt “family”. I now have no family. I have a dog, two surfboards, a bunch of great books, ditto on the cd’s, etc… My soul remains intact. Thank God- - - and avoid weirdos, at all costs. Odelay 🦈🎵👣

[@edscannell1019]

My children have been taught to identify EVIL and it’s perverse ideology. This mentally disturbed freak show will be dealt with God on judgement day 🙏

[@eax2010EA]

Transcendentalism leads nowhere without Jesus Christ.

[@denniszaychik8625]

Sorry to disappoint but Transcendentalism with Christ is just as bad.

[@mmyr8ado.360]

​@@denniszaychik8625 care to elaborate?

[@InnovativeSaint]

@@denniszaychik8625what is transcendentalism?

[@stickmastergib3665]

@@InnovativeSaint From a quick Google search: Transcendentalists believed in: The divine spirit: That nature and all living souls contain a divine spirit Human nature: That humans are fundamentally good but corrupted by society Self-reliance: That humans can reunite with God through individualism and self-reliance Insight: That insight is superior to logic and experience for revealing the deepest truths Imagination: That imagination can free people from the limits of common sense categories like time, space, and causation Sounds incompatible with Christianity to me

[@benjamingentile1660]

Great summery of the situation

[@cosmicprison9819]

For the next Olympics, please invite Cannibal Corpse. They could even be joined on stage by some athletes - specifically, the hammer-throwers.

[@klaudiabrodka7367]

We can protect children by living a life in reality. It gets dangerous when fantasy, alternative ideas of the real become entertained.

[@nielsleot7039]

They cancel people who are against this agenda with soft Stasi tactics in theology, I was one of those cancelled, but seems like few care about it except some KZbinrs so it is what it is.

[@JoeTheodore-te6oe]

Hallelujah!! I'm blessed only God knows how much I praise Him, $80k every 4weeks! I can now afford anything and also support God's work and the church.😊

[@AlexPo-sp2ox]

I'm so happy for you dear, please can you elaborate more about this I'm having a lot of family crisis lately. I definitely believe you're God sent🙏🙏🙏

[@sveppz22]

Only God knows how much grateful i am. After so much struggles I now own a new house and my family is happy once again everything is finally falling into place

[@MariaBujac-yh1ry]

Thank God for Bringing Mrs Maria Angelina Alexander , I'm happy for God's grace have found me, Mrs Maria Angelina Alexander is lord sent!!!

[@JoelHenry-i4o]

A lot of people keep talking about investments and how investment trade change their lives. I really need to engage myself in someway of earning more income and stop depending on the government

[@Jessicaputnam-y2p]

The miracle of God is flowing Wow I'm just shocked you mentioned Maria, thought I'm the only one trading with her. She's a perfect teacher

[@jenniferprull1887]

Omg. Icant take much more.

[@David-dz6yh]

This anti Christian hate is calculated and deliberate. This opening Olympic ceremony is pre approved by the IOC, the French Olympic Committee and the French government itself. They should all be charged at the Human Rights Commission in France by French citizens of good conscience because these people won’t resign or be fired. They will all protect each other.

[@Carlsbadman767]

It’s the ‘Olympics’ which is why they depicted the Feast of Dionysus.

[@JordanX767]

@@Carlsbadman767Yet the person in the middle of the photo posted a picture online comparing it with a picture of the Last Supper. Calling it the “New Gay Testament”. So to suggest there was no attempt to mock Christianity is false.

[@Carlsbadman767]

@@JordanX767 And? Were they the director of this?

[@k98killer]

Omg, I feel soo oppressed because people were allowed to do something I dislike on the TV. Lorb Jebus Cripes, hab merthy on meee.

[@k98killer]

Y'all need some thicker skin and less active imagination.

[@janineskywalker527]

And what are "true religious taboos for?" J.

[@improvisedchaos8904]

She's only 2. But she isn't shy to point and say "boo!". She will be homeschooled.

[@JanBear]

“It’s ironic” is often code word for gaslighting.

[@bengreen171]

Pageau is the king of gaslighting.

[@ElHombretheman]

Weird comment.

[@Lucasvoz]

"iT WasN't tHe lAsT sUpPer iT wAs dIoNySuS"

[@danjaasma2305]

Hi, Lucas! I recognize you from PVKs channel, which I frequent. I want to understand what you mean but I don’t understand. Can you explain?

[@Lucasvoz]

@@danjaasma2305 Hi there! I'm referring to the depiction of what to most seems to be the Last Supper in the Olympics ceremony (see the thumbnail of this video), and specifically to the claim that it isn't the Last Supper, which no matter the intention will be seen by most as such.

[@ironmonkey1512]

Yeah, I trust that's what these satanists meant.

[@earth.scapes]

Both may be viewed as anti Christian...

[@liisag80]

It was The Last Supper and Dionysus was served to them as a dish if you still refuse to notice, in a body sushi style. Which is several layers of disgusting..

[@itsHeatherKay]

Who is this wise woman?

[@bluerineimb1148]

Are you serious she hasn't a clue wat she is talking about

[@bluerineimb1148]

Let's try to get something straight here are you all representing the Catholic church

[@makuballz6516]

nice

[@DankBlastBeats]

Home school your children.

[@DoubleOhSilver]

No, I know so many friends of mine who wish they weren't home schooled. They say it left them unprepared to deal with the world. Kids need to grow up knowing how to deal with dumb secular ideas. And the world needs Christians to correct them. Separating them will just hasten the path they're on right now. We need better parents.

[@tuckerbugeater]

@@DoubleOhSilver Honestly you've already lost against the leftist ai because it can penetrate your brain without a break. Your children rebel against your control. The only power is to learn the tech and evolve faster than your enemies. Good luck.

[@masonmp1889]

@@DoubleOhSilver while that can be the case it can be very helpful it just depends on how involved the parents are if there not involved enough it can be a terrible thing but if they are (and not in a detrimental way by overly sheltering them) it can be a great blessing. i am homeschooled myself and thats what i have noticed ,now i will say that a good private school might be a good option also and perhaps better in some situations

[@bradleyheissmann4538]

​@DoubleOhSilver they weren't homeschooled well.

[@RunninUpThatHillh]

My kids are unschoolers and it's going great. My oldest graduated this past year.

[@notloki3377]

if they hate you and all they have to do to make you lose your mind is show you a mirror, they win.

[@Robert-fx3ng]

Is it similar to wearing black face and eating fried chicken?

[@notloki3377]

@@Robert-fx3ng yes

[@ruzicaudovicic5802]

I Corinthians 6

[@ernerdkartoffelkopf6485]

Lucifer is the archetype of grievance - the complaint of the oppressed. Satan is the archetype of the revolutionary - the refusal to accept authority. Both aspects of the diabolical are self-destructive. Pageau calls it suicidal, specifically is the parasite that ends itself by killing its host. Grievance is rightly viewed as a weapon, and revolution entails war. Every thoughtful man knows that when he takes up arms he will have the lesser and the greater enemy to fight. The lesser enemy is the other armed man in the contest to destroy each other’s body. The greater enemy is the spirit of war itself, which can destroy his own spirit and the spirit of his cause to fight in the first place. Everyone knows, or should know, that blood spilt on the ground calls out for vengeance, and nourishes hatred, which are the means by which the spirit of war perpetuates itself into the future. For peace to ensue, grievance must be laid aside with all other weapons. If swords can be beaten into plowshares to till the soil for food, perhaps grievance can be beaten into compassion to till the soul for love. Imagine the process whereby grievance is transmuted into compassion….

[@TommyRushing]

Ooo. Gnostic Collage-ism is a great term.

[@TheRadChadDad]

☦️☦️☦️

[@tensevo]

what needs to be preached, is not religion or a particular world view necessarily, but, people need to know that none of this is new. the ancient texts have always been an antidote to chaos.

[@tensevo]

Jonathan, long time sub here, I came across a video this week where it was argued that jesus and lucifer are the same thing, I found the arguments to be quite interesting and would really appreciate your take on that.

[@ironmonkey1512]

There is no such thing as 'free'... we are slaves to time, space, entropy, gravity.... reality.

[@brandabrothers2127]

Yes, ironically they usher in hell into their lives through their performance art

[@poleviatia5372]

Educate them.

[@davidgroves8413]

What do you mean by saying the essence of Satan is irony?

[@blondetapperware8289]

Didn't know you went on Catholic Unscripted recently! Cool!

[@DoubleOhSilver]

All traceable to the sexual devolution of the 50s. Why is it that parents still have trouble talking to their kids about sex, why social nudity is even more taboo today, or why people are reportedly having less sex? Because they separated marriage from marriage. Sex IS marriage, but society wanted to say it's not, and now we see the consequences. Sin against the body and suddenly you're ashamed of it.

[@enzocompanbadillo5365]

People are actually having less sex yet craving it more, reminds me of countries like Japan with its hypersexualized media yet declining birth rates.

[@jmvazquezjim]

Going back to the true and only church

[@poleviatia5372]

It's as if the atheist are seeking God's permission to be an atheist or God's disapproval.

[@festivetosho7376]

Let's not forget that God's covenant with Noah, that he will never destroy the Earth by flooding again, is memorialized by The RAINBOW.

[@outoforbit00]

The purification this time is by fire, like gold purified in a furnace.

[@stevendouglas3781]

How in the world is this implicit? Lol. Great talk though.

[@rsandy4077]

The gods and goddesses that dominate the air across the world were honoured at the Olympics ceremony. Apolo, Zeus, Aphrodite, Artemis, and the rest have never left us.

[@ailius1520]

If that wasn't bull shirt, Zeus would've been at the center of the table, they would be few if any drag queens (sure Greek mythology has some hermaphroditic figures, but not the principle ones), and it would be Nike or maybe Aries rather than Dionysus getting honored since the Olympics are a competition of athletic prowess rather than getting drunk.

[@TerrienFr]

First of all, the reference is not Leonardo da Vinci's Last Supper at all. It is The Feast of the Gods by Jan Harmensz van Biljert, painted around 1635 and housed at the Magnin Museum in Dijon. The gods of Olympus are celebrating the marriage of Thetis and Peleus; at the center of the table is not Christ, but Apollo crowned. Bacchus-Dionysus is lying in the foreground. He is the man in blue. Secondly, to all those who see the blasphemy of Christ in the "parody of the Last Supper" or the decay of society, it is indeed important to remind them of Christ's true message. Here is the analysis of Charles Declerq, Priest and journalist: "Let's take the example of the "parody of the Last Supper." It is not a parody of the Last Supper itself, but a parody of paintings that interpret the Last Supper, which are just as far from what could have actually taken place and possibly a reinterpretation of Dionysian myths (let's not forget that Judeo-Christianity also drew inspiration from myths of other cultures). We must remember that when the evangelical authors (who did not know Jesus and belong to the 2nd and 3rd generations of disciples) include a meal at a "Last Supper" in their narratives (except for the author of the Gospel attributed to John), they are incorporating into their accounts a practice of their community (itself derived from the Jewish Passover seder). It is difficult to describe "historically" this meal, which is described in narratives with high theological value added. I am responding here as a Catholic priest. Regarding the disrespect that would be shown to Christ with what some have called a "shameful parody of the Last Supper" (especially in far-right and extreme-right circles), this demonstrates a total misunderstanding of the theology of kenosis. I will give an example: a few decades ago, in France, an artist scandalized Catholics who violently protested. What was it about? He had exhibited crucifixes submerged in urine. To which the weekly La Vie responded through one of its theologians that the Church Fathers would have seen in it a very symbolic and theological representation of kenosis (Christ emptying himself of his divinity to lower himself into humanity) and that it was probably - despite the artist's intentions - the most "true" representation of Christ. But the argument was not heard (especially by rigid and identity-focused Catholics). And yet, in these representations, including that of the opening ceremony of the 2024 Olympics in Paris, it is the deepest meaning of Christianity that is shown: Jesus welcoming sinners, tax collectors, prostitutes, and promising them that they will precede us in the kingdom. As a Christian, I like to think that Jesus, today, could have surrounded himself with these people for his last meal. Much to the dismay, of course, of today's new Pharisees! This is the very essence of Christ's message and the gospel. And it is an opportunity to recall the core of Jesus' message, which is the love of all, including and especially our enemies. Jesus reminds us that God makes it rain on the good and the wicked, that he welcomes everyone, and that we are invited to do the same. And the love of others does not require any reciprocity on their part, for if we love those who love us, the pagans do as much. So yes, let's also rejoice in this "parody" to thus apply the message of Christ and a civilization that wants to be inspired by it. And if we are asked for our coat, let us also give our shirt! It is clear, straightforward, and precise, "our traditions" are an invitation to love every man and woman, especially those who are strangers, who come from elsewhere, have another religion, other customs, who are different. The big problem is that many who claim to follow Jesus Christ have not grasped the depth, radicality, and intensity of his message. In nearly 40 years of priesthood, I have discovered that many faithful had the words and gestures correct but were not disciples of Christ and the gospel. However, I have found on the thresholds and outside the churches that many people who were not Christians or not "practicing" were disciples of the Gospel without knowing it."

[@rach9466]

So you’re just copy/pasting this over and over? To what end?

[@TerrienFr]

@@rach9466 It was just a mistake. On the other hand, the message needs to be spread in the hope that people become less ignorant and start reading history books or truly reading the Gospels instead of relying on certain interpretations.

[@brightokeke2463]

@@TerrienFryou and those “priests” are liberals cosplaying as Christians, a big Western problem that most of them truly believe it Jonathan Pageau is a French man and a life long philosopher, history knowledgeable and a thinker. Your opinions are not gonna gaslight anyone lol

[@hanaini]

Why is "woke" becoming *bad*/how is the innocent black thought that was intellectually and factually providing positive African culture and historical facrs become associated with this?

[@mmyr8ado.360]

Ask Thomas Sowell

[@TheMhouk2]

same ethos - its all revolutionaire

[@vangoghsear8657]

Go see urban America. And anywhere black for that matter.

[@hanaini]

@@mmyr8ado.360 does he have authority to hijacked well intentioned and positive movement that does not go against Christianity? If yes, how?

[@hanaini]

@@TheMhouk2 what does that mean?

[@toddhall1080]

Turn off your tvs and computers 😊

[@JohnHinchcliffeBill]

What if it actually was a net positive that Christians had to live again in a world that was on whole hostile to them? in sexual world, the choice, whether to serve yourself or serve, God would be, I think a little clearer. As I understand it in the gospel, the call is to speak the good word, the good news, to share the good news. The blind have to choose to see, not be forced to because it is socially acceptable. In that sense at least this SOCIETY this time in history is an opportunity not a terrible disaster. Granted a great reckoning may come out of it but when the goats and the sheep are separated, that’s not necessarily a bad thing, unless of course you’re a goat.

[@sarawoods1450]

Jonathan is good but she is not that articulate and makes extreme statements like she doesn’t quite get it but knows something is wrong

[@keithjohnsonYT]

“The good mother fails.” Abuse…or, knowing when we cannot fail..is success..right? (The book is a collection of observations and reflections..it’s not a script.) So, you’re Satan now?…”Now, I am become death…”? …give me a break. 😂 When the bad guy looks like a bad guy, (like “me”) we all have it a lot easier than when the bad guy looks like everyone else. (On the Olympics opening in Paris, I had to “tune in, drop out, and grow up.” …I mean, Jonathan is such a dick!🙏) I’m glad you’re all here..I don’t have to be you.✌️

[@JustinLazlo]

...what on earth are you on about?

[@keithjohnsonYT]

@@JustinLazlo “Santa”…you know, it’s not exactly a Christmasy thing to do, to get a dog excited about going to the park, but then take him to the neutering appointment. (I fear if we lose Santa, we’ll go back to killing the kids.) I don’t care what they say…trans-Santa, is not real Santa. 👍?

[@tensevo]

what we need is atheism, where we all get along, with one set of common values, and no government.... you mean Christianity? wut?

[@tensevo]

without cohesiveness of monotheism, we just end up with unmoored chaotic spirituality which manifests as black magic and witchcraft, none of this is new, as we operate on cycles.

[@patryklucka376]

Sacrificing 200,000 cows for the Mother Earth sounds less absurd when you realize how many more cows are sacrificed all the time for the Pleasure God of our taste buds

[@francestaylor9156]

Sorry, that is NOT the same.

[@friedrich_nietzsche.]

But that’s not sacrifice, it’s slaughtering of livestock (for nutrition not merely pleasure). Cows are for humans to eat. We can then choose to abstain from that use - sacrifice that use - to the sun monster for better weather.

[@mmyr8ado.360]

Appeasing gods through sacrifice is vastly different from mere consumption of meat. Such rituals were performed with reverence in honouring their gods, whereas butchering and cooking of food requires none of those. At the very least after offering a sacrifice, it's then butchered afterwards in the market (which is why the Early Christians do not buy meat from the market), whereas today those 200,000 cows are left on the ground to rot afterwards, worsening the soil and nation signifying a fleeting adherence to the modern.

[@patryklucka376]

@@francestaylor9156 of course it’s not the same, but I think Pageaus listeners know that other gods/demons are not only consciously worshipped. If we’re killing animals just (or mainly) for our pleasure , this sounds a bit more evil then killing them to secure planet. Even if they’re wrong, the intention sounds better.

[@Byzantine_Orthodox_Christian]

@@patryklucka376 No, worship by its very nature is a movement of the nous, you cannot accidentally worship another god, you have to intend to do so, also we kill animals for nourishment, as God has allowed dispensation for us to consume meat all the way back to the Adamic covenant.

[@rkc84]

Do I think the opening ceremony was art? Yes. Art is provocative. In this case, very. Was it beautiful art? That is always subjective. I found it odd and off the mark, though beautifully executed. Do I think it was mockery, the word being thrown around in an attempt to fuel a media driven by outrage? The more I think of it, No.I think it was an attempt of a gnostic queer minded vision to include a modern God amongst the older Greek ones. That is art, it is ok and I don’t want to live in a world where artists are censored. I think it is a sign of the times. If nothing else, we can use it for a constructive conversation about the use of images seen as holy to a religion in an attempt to depict an agenda that is not of that religion, but that can be seen as a good thing. So the more I think it through. I believe it will do more good than bad for Christians and Christianity, the crowd being told we should be outraged. But those who identify as Christian should be cautious to not sin in their reaction. It is nothing to hate. But something to talk about it. That is, in the end, what art is meant to do. Broad are the gates to hell and narrow is the path to heaven. My problem here is, as always, the Gnostic Queer agenda to sexualize children.

[@aquiladavid5681]

I have to disagree that the opening ceremony was art. Despite the post modern view, art must be coherent and not only stand on being “provocative”, which is really just code word for grotesque in this case. I’m sorry, but art must be beautiful in the classical sense. There is an objective standard for beauty because heaven is beautiful and is the absence of all things grotesque and ugly. Also, a life in Christ is perfect sobriety and congruence within reality; therefore the incoherent and disjointed opening ceremony was an affront to God and his perfect order. It was not art - just pure blasphemy.

[@daveh1237]

​@IFeelQuiteHungry You are sorely deceived, my friend. The two paintings are similar in that they both have people at a table, but put all three side-by-side and tell me which two look the most alike... Also, say you were right (which you're not), this Olympic committee said that they were going to make it a religiously neutral ceremony - what is areligious about pantheon of the gods?? May God clear your eyes and your heart to see and perceive clearly.

[@daveh1237]

@@rkc84 You misinterpreted a single quote from Tolstoy. Read his entire work entitled "What is Art?". He definitely believe in an objective standard of beauty, although interpreted differently by different people. He said that real art effectively "COMMUNICATES" emotion through the piece, not "evoke", and I'm sorry, but disgust and offense are not beautiful or communicative emotions. Maybe I'm wrong, though, and I'll leave the door open to your opinion... Could you summarize in one to two sentences what coherent message of the opening ceremony was and how it was beautiful?

[@daveh1237]

​@@rkc84 Just because I can look at irrational and ugly blasphemy and call it what it is and express my disgust does not mean that it effectively communicated an emotion through it to me. Is animal abuse art? 🤷‍♂ By your definition, if it is offensive to our morals or sensibilities, then I guess it would be... along with about any other possible atrocity that revolts us. Not a very reliable or consistent litmus for "art".

[@beckydegraaf6976]

That the ancient Greek religion and myth, Dionysus is the god of wine-making NOT the last supper.

[@lisaonthemargins]

Even if that were a valid excuse, it doesn't change the predicament the West is in with woke culture.

[@TheTwoheadedEagle]

The organizers of the opening ceremony would have to be incredibly naive to set that scene up and think people would see anything but the Last Supper. Now try to be honest and tell me that Dionysus was what you saw when that image popped onto your screen.

[@festivetosho7376]

He's also the god of a sort of berserk frenzy. Drunken chaos, if you will.

[@DoubleOhSilver]

​@@festivetosho7376 and orgies

[@DoubleOhSilver]

The display was literally had "the last super" in the name in French and straight up looks like it. Sure it was Dionysian too, things can have more than one meaning. But go ahead and be dense.

[@gavincampbell6595]

This is paranoia on the level of a Chick Tract.

[@ElHombretheman]

Not really.

[@gavincampbell6595]

@@ElHombretheman Yeah it is

[@ElHombretheman]

@@gavincampbell6595 No it’s really not nerd.

[@gavincampbell6595]

@@ElHombrethemanok then. Lay down how this is less paranoid than one of Jack Chick’s tracts.

[@gavincampbell6595]

@@ElHombrethemanBecause I can only hear Chick-level paranoia.

[@hundwasser9871]

Why doesn't your ridiculous God protect you?😂😂😂

[@daddycool228]

Isn't the Olympic ceremony simply about human pride?

[@TheRealSteveMay]

Yes but in it's worst possible form. It is about the dera cina tion and homogenization of all the worlds people under a single banner that is in direct conflict with God. It is a celebration of the tower of babel and the direct challenge to the authority of God that the unification of humanity via our own debauched will represents.

[@mmyr8ado.360]

​@@TheRealSteveMay so just one of many attempts of such by secret socieities, and a slow failing one at that.