JONBENET How the Ramsey Case Could Have Been Solved In 5 Minutes Or Less

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[@yeahboiii6640]

Every fall when walking form the parking lot to my office I have a bunch of leaves on my carpet in my office once I get in there. The walk from the tree outside to my office is about 100 yards away along multiple carpeted surfaces and me stomping my feet off once I get in the door of the building. 100% always end up with leaves in my office no matter how hard I try not to have them on my shoes. There is no way there was not a single leaf or anything on the carpet and they had to crouch down and drag themselves into that window!

[@peddlerofbombast6982]

You should check out True Crime Oracle!

[@anngilbert4250]

Never thought about the dog. Big mistake by the police.

[@dennistrull1475]

Good point. And no slushy mess either

[@sonjastanger5858]

Agree

[@kindcolorado2604]

for sure!!!

[@eddypaul8959]

No one would sit in someone's house writing a 3 page rambling ransom note demanding the odd amount of the exact amount John got for his Christmas bonus. Makes no sense at all. Written on paper in the house.

[@kathleenpractices]

Not just three pages, there was also a rough draft!

[@Batmandabomb]

I have many times over the years in one of my houses or two , never gave been able to find paper to write upon

[@leahjones9626]

@@Batmandabomb 🤣. Usually shoved in a drawer ONLY the homeowners know which one it is.

[@gunwu9084]

@@leahjones9626 Or the housekeeper who happened to have just such a notepad at her own home.

[@chinamoon6175]

Several ​@@kathleenpractices

[@earth0128]

This was never a DNA case, what a difference tracking dogs would have made.

[@BellePal]

@@earth0128 how would finding her sooner with a dog change anything?

[@rhondagemas6610]

Imo it would have had nobody touch the body and would not have excluded John Ramsey bc his dna was on the blanket.

[@toughgirl6837]

Yes it was. They found a male’s DNA on her panties. That didn’t belong to anyone in the home.

[@modgirl7242]

Why would intruder go to that trouble writing ransom notes then just kill in the basement. They wouldn’t would they

[@ibdalia69]

My thought too.

[@luish777]

Good point it's illogical

[@scratchy1704]

Exactly 👍

[@jamesBrian-lu4kj]

@@modgirl7242 John found the body and brought her upstairs...that is weird to me..wouldn't you go get the people upstairs and bring the police down..bu t instead you bring her up so patsy sees her dead? No.

[@peternolan4107]

@@jamesBrian-lu4kj Patsy had already seen her dead.

[@mspointyears]

If your kids go missing, you look everywhere, even the places that seem illogical. Yes they had a big house, but why isn't the first thing that they did to check every single room? Turn on the lights, open the doors, check in, under and around. Even if you think they've been taken. It's odd to me that it took so long to find her.

[@nataliegist2014]

If the child is missing yes you would search the house if a child was presumed kidnapped, you should get the others out right away, in case the kidnappers were still in the house.

[@trixiec4880]

And you wake the other one up ASAP and say "where the hell is your sister?"

[@erinmetcalf1844]

I TOTALLY agree! Think about all the crazy places people ( at least me) look when I've lost my keys or phone. I look in the freezer, rooms I don't think I had entered, etc. My child, someone would have to grab me and physically stop me from looking and looking and looking.

[@smokeydog67]

@@mspointyears had this been my child this house would have been torn apart looking in every nook and cranny, I don’t care if it was a 30,000sq foot home. There were so many mistakes made, why would you have everybody and his brother back into the house, when she hadn’t been found yet? Someone was really clever in covering things up and destroying evidence and it will never come to light , there’s not a chance in h_ll now only speculation.

[@RealButcher]

Yeah... And then JR just walks down and "finds" her.. Weird. While before he did not search anywhere.

[@jamesfinnin7496]

intruder cooks a nine course meal writes a book jumps threw windows goes into the girls room tasers her ties her up out like a light unbelievable

[@CerealBoomer]

I’m with you lol✌🏻

[@Sandi-zh2wx]

Very unbelievable

[@bogdiworksV2]

But after all that he somehow fails to get her out of the house 😂

[@MommawGrace]

I always thought from the get go that Lou Smit’s conclusion was simply a story book tale. Makes me wonder how much Mr. Smit was paid by Mr. Ramsey to concoct such a fantasy. No, I’ve never believed this was a crime that DNA could solve. I’d like to hear more of Arnt’s 34 page report.

[@ibdalia69]

@@MommawGrace Sure sounds like Smit is going overboard to clear the Ramseys.

[@kaybrown4010]

Lou Smit sought excuses to look the other way because he couldn’t wrap his mind around the thought that this nice, Christian family might have something to do with this heinous crime.

[@1_Bad_Z]

Exactly

[@robbiet8583]

After time…all this time I believe this is true.

[@annemurphy9339]

Much I’ve heard/read insists it was the very jealous older brother.

[@danmcn61]

Trust me, Lou Smit was paid very, very well by John Ramsey to deflect suspicion. He earned every penny.

[@pesquallyflanger1319]

Shame on Lou he let his shared belief in God with the Ramsey’s cloud his judgment. He prayed with them for Christ sake…pun intended. That’s why the grand jury didn’t buy his nonsensical PowerPoint intruder theory

[@mortymickelson5229]

It makes common sense that the whole house should be carefully searched immediately.

[@ilish25]

Yes, you would think the POLICE would have done that. Just another thing they screwed up 😱

[@SJ-ni6iy]

The ransom note makes no sense. It’s a giant 🚩 pointing at the parents.

[@yeahboiii6640]

I love how John says its his life long mission to solve who did this but you don't see him doing anything to solve it. If this happened to my child and I had the money this guy supposedly has I would spend it all to figure this out! I want to see an annual spend from John on what he has spent and has done to try and resolve this crime!

[@DeanandLisa1803]

OJ said the same thing 🤣

[@earth0128]

The DNA is a useful distraction

[@janicescott6569]

He is always doing interviews on TV and goes to the annual CrimeCon. He is waiting for the DNA ( which is minimal) to be released by Boulder Police to be analyzed.

[@jeaniebird999]

What he means is that it's his lifelong mission to keep anyone from finding out the truth before he dies.

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

he now has very little to do with their son burke....very telling....burke did it, it was an accident , burke was too rough with JB, patsy wrote the ransom letter, john went along with it....

[@a737mech]

To me this case stunk from day one, and still stinks today.

[@dianegibson2424]

There was no intruder

[@maryevelyn3059]

Just a sudden random thought. Jonbenet would be 34 this past August. The same age as her mother when she was born. 😢

[@BuddhaBeanie]

That is random.

[@Socraticstatic44]

Always so grateful there is a competent and reasonable voice to speak for JBR. Well done as always, sir.

[@TCRS]

Thanks for listening

[@pesquallyflanger1319]

It snowed that night. This is a fact. There was a light/dusting/ frost on the walkways that morning as reported by Sgt Reichenbach. That is a fact.The temperature was in the single digits. That is a fact. The snow didn’t melt until later that day when it reached 50 +degrees. The Ramsey’s couldn’t risk leaving footprints/ or risk being seen. They couldn’t wait until later that day to remove her body, because they were leaving on a flight early that morning. They could’ve moved her body later if Ardnt hadn’t told JR to search the house. Why did JR go directly to the basement and more importantly the wine cellar. When he was asked by Darnay Hoffman in his wolf case deposition, why he didn’t check the wine cellar when searching the house that morning, JR responded by saying that he knew that that room had no points of entry so he skipped it. Why then did that all of a sudden become the second most important room to check. Especially when detective Arndt told him to search top to bottom. Why did the killer/s lock the top latch to the wine cellar when placing JonBenets body in there. They were leaving who cares if someone finds her. There was no intruder! Come on, this is an easy one. No doubter!

[@cornfusedatbest3980]

Am I correct in my assumption you believe it could have been Burke? It's Occam's razor ... jealous sibling lashes out, parents obviously cover in an effort to keep what they still have. I've been following this case for years and I've gone back and forth with plausible scenarios. I always come back to Burke.

[@TacoSyndicate]

Tracking dogs??? Really. If the police would have searched the house like they were supposed to in the first place she would have been found.

[@jacquelinejacobson6789]

The killer was very angry at her. Not only strangulation but a deep head blow and train track end pokes. The killer was in a rage.

[@sabrinashelton1997]

Who are you implying did it? She was SA'd, so why would you assume that THAT wasn't the motive?

[@ToxicXYGamer]

it was her brother. she ate his pineapple and he killed her for it.

[@julieboice180]

I've always suspected the brother. Her parents didn't want to lose another child

[@rilee-3369]

Intimate, someone that knew her for sure.

[@Might45666]

That was stage. It was a family member knock her over the head though she was dead. That’s what I think

[@kellyjacquin715]

Ok, one more thing, sorry. John Ramsey is on a rant about getting things tested for DNA that has never been tested before. I asked Steve Thomas 20 years ago, if the duct tape was ever tested for DNA, he said, and i quote, " Everything that could be tested, WAS tested! I asked because alot of people tear duct tape with their mouth. So was is John Ramsey going on about???

[@ShinKamaitachi]

John should've been tested for sure.

[@KY-jb4vd]

Imo he has always brought up DNA as he knows any further testing would just muddy the waters further as it would be a trace of this and a spec of that. The transport company, the store clerks etc etc. Anyone who may have ever touched a garment might have deposited DNA there which can be found nowadays so IF you wanted to cover up something that happened in your home, it would be a FANTASTIC tree to bark up!

[@BellePal]

It’s a different kind of DNA test. He wants one that is more up-to-date and can separate different peoples DNA.

[@KY-jb4vd]

@@BellePal so the investigation can run in 33 new directions!

[@DW...]

4 months for the parents to talk to police 😢 insane‼️

[@BellePal]

Myth

[@danmcn61]

But they were more than happy to sit down with CNN. Followed by going on TV with Katie Couric, Larry King, etc...and spewing their nonsense to gullible people as a way of hiding from their guilt.

[@jessicaschubach4174]

I've been intrigued with True Crime for over 40 years and I'm embarrassed to say that bringing in scent/cadaver dogs completely slipped my mind. Thanks so much Nick for your continued insight with this case by observing the obvious on what could have solved it so quickly.

[@amandadelong7678]

It amazes me that they still claim that the Hi-Tech boots didn't belong to anyone in the household and yet in all actuality they belonged to Burke and he admitted it

[@Sandi-zh2wx]

They didn't want to solve this case

[@BuzzyStreet]

I'm always curious why we've never seen video of Lou Smit (or any other investigator) attempting to exit the basement window. Seems like they would make an even bigger mess on the way out. And just how was this mysterious intruder supposed to get JonBenet out that window? The intruder theory is absolutely ridiculous. BTW, is anyone else totally creeped out by the pics of JonBenet wearing those weird false teeth?

[@victorialawhon2251]

It's called a "flipper" and it ensures the girls have perfect teeth when they smile. I do have to say that JonBenet 's hair makeup and costumes were much more "tame" than many I've seen - yes, I used to watch that awful "Toddlers and Tiaras" show ....but I learned a lot about the pageant world.

[@dennistrull1475]

yeah and Lou was evidently 5'7 or 5'9. Let's see a 6 footer go thru there

[@SonetLandman]

😂😂

[@roringusanda2837]

Who says the basement window was used? The doors and windows were practically never locked, the alarm system never used, and more than a dozen keys to the home were floating around out there.

[@ScabiusSalamingus]

If your daughter is missing, one of the first places parents check is the basement. No parents lawyer up if they're innocent. The death was probably accidental, the cover up was criminal.

[@Independentthinker-d5q]

If you are being investigated for a horrible crime , even if you didn’t do it , you get a lawyer. How many times has the police focused on the wrong people and built a case on the wrong people ? Happens often

[@johna8973]

@@ScabiusSalamingus yes , especially since the Father knew there was a Broken Window down there

[@jacquelinejacobson6789]

I admire all your hard work and analysis.

[@MrManAmong]

I'm convinced the son/her brother did it and the parents made up this intruder story so they wouldn't lose 2 children in one day.

[@sandravanconant180]

I've always thought Patsy did it because she was jealous that maybe John had developed "an eye" for little JonBenet after all of the pageant prep, and whatnot. To protect Patsy, I feel like John hid the body while she composed the ransom note. Could explain the ransom amount, the need to write 3 pages, the fact that they hosted friends, and didn't talk to the police.

[@cornfusedatbest3980]

@@MrManAmong Yes, Occam's razor dictates such an outcome regardless of what we've been told by media sources or so - called law enforcement. Personally, after much review, I do believe it was her brother because it just fits. Heaven have mercy on my soul if I'm wrong.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

No, the killer was a creep pedo contract worker who was a drug addict. The guy admit to knowing the home, small areas. He said he was going to kidnap, rape JBR but began to panic, kill her.

[@agev8016]

There are so many parallels to Jon Benet and Maddie Mccann case. Both moms when they called police immediately told the dispatcher their child was "kidnapped.". They already set the narrative, how would they know their child is kidnapped? Wouldn't you say my child is "missing." Maddies parent had a meeting with their friends before calling 911 and Jon benet parents invited neighbors over, why was this not a crime scene immediately? Both were suspected of possibly having been molested. The parents in both cases IMHO in interviews were always curious. Everyone grieves and deals with their child missing differently, but the behavior from interviews of the parents seem odd and curious in comparison to parents who kids were really truly missing and or kidnapped. I could go on. The main difference in the cases is in Jon Benets case the body was found, but the parents responses are very similar.

[@RiverRokz]

Yes, and have you seen the video of Maddie's father going on about her in "tidy whities" in a video he made, made me sick to my stomach, the sound of his voice, made my skin crawl, I did not find it it "innocent" at all. Seems odd to take your kids to that paticular place, seems for adults, not children, and to leave the door unlocked, maybe for all the adults to have their turn, just sick, something not right with the whole scenario.

[@BellePal]

And in my opinion, both sets of parents are innocent. In fact, I believe Madeline McCann has a suspect.

[@gabrielabagala]

@@RiverRokz And the mother wrote in her book that Maddy had "beautiful genitals." REALLY. It's horrible.

[@agev8016]

@@RiverRokz And who leaves their children home alone with the window open in a foreign country? The restaurant was proven NOT to be in eye sight of their rented hotel room. I had no idea how much the press and media protected the Mccanns like Jon benet, but everyone should watch Anything Goes with James English and his interview of Detective of Bernt Stellander who wrote a book on his findings of surveilling the Mccanns & investigating the case for years including their trips to Portugal after Madeline went missing. He set up video cameras to see where they were visiting such as maybe a grave sight and I had no idea police found blood on the couch in the hotel room where Maddie went missing.. It is eye opening his findings & of course his book is banned in the states and UK and why is that????? I wish he would do an investigation into Jon Benet. Here's the link if anyone is interested as it has soooo many similarities to Jon Benets case kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3LXhodrd7Rmm5Ysi=KePdZwcu5hCPw9C5

[@raumshen9298]

Check Aarushi Talwar case

[@RiverRokz]

I have never had a doubt that one or both parents were involved in a cover up, and this seals it for me. Never forget the police woman who locked eyes with the father and saw evil, I believe her. The pineapple that JonBenet still had her in her stomach, Patsy was still wearing the same clothes for the day before and the random letter was from her notepad, and the letters that matches her hand writing. The fact that they hired a lawyer and left Denver. The fact that John just happened t find the Jonbenet. The evidence goes on and on that points to them. I remember my son was missing one day and I tore the house appart looking for him, there was not room, closet, laundry basket, that was not checked, i found him alseep behind the couch, no way in hell do I believe they just did not look in that room, i find that completely absurd. In my opinion, they got away with either a murder or a cover up of an accidental death. Why such a hard fought battle to cover up for the Ramsey's?? just urks my soul.

[@davidpp330]

DNA under her nails is the solution! I’ve never heard before she has DNA in her nails. It would still be better for them to test the DNA even if it is from 2 people.

[@matwilson7904]

INobody ever talks about her winter clothes, Its cold and snow on the ground, she's a 6 year old little girl, she would of had winter clothes on including gloves or Mits, when was that stuff token off her and those gloves would of been a ses pool of DNA, your hands sweet in gloves and how many times do you remove a put on your gloves easily placing DNA all over you hands and under you finger nails, also that so called smiley face written on her hand would of been rubbed off in those gloves. did she come home and use the bathroom in her room transferring the DNA to her lower body parts by wiping herself, her toilet was unflushed so obviously she used it

[@jaredpeterson380]

Instead of someone filmed climbing in the window, let's see someone climb out. That would be a struggle, in my opinion. Especially with your hostage.

[@julieboice180]

And then lock the door from the outside???

[@JanBee1122]

Agree, if he had to get down on all fours to get in, imagine trying to get out through that narrow passage and not make a mess of the dirt outside, the wall inside, the ledge, the leaves, etc. No need to imagine with a child since that never happened anyway.

[@jaredpeterson380]

@@JanBee1122 Exactly the point.

[@marlineemmal6458]

The back door to the home was unlocked. A non-family male could have entered and/or left the house unseen. What if a kidnap had been planned? The ransom letter could have been written (by Patsy with her non-dominant hand) before the family went to the party. Maybe Jonbenet wasn't supposed to have died.

[@youaregoodenough680]

Love your reporting. Thank you for reporting on this cold case ❤

[@yeahboiii6640]

Also if you planned on taking JonBenet would you have put that heavy grate back in place. Either way would you have bothered to put that grate back in place....

[@domcagney2352]

It’s truly alarming what they were able to get away with

[@danmcn61]

It's simply a matter of wealth and influence. John Ramsey was a very well-connected businessman with lots of money to throw around. The Boulder District Attorney was a lapdog who did everything he could to protect Ramsey. If the family had been poor and had no influence, the case would have been solved in five minutes.

[@JanBee1122]

If an intruder were to have put the note on the stairs in order for Patsy to see it on her way down (which also intimates that it was known which staircase she would use), why would they put the pages in order from left to right for a person to read when going back up the stairs? Also, why on the stairs and not on the floor at the bottom of the staircase? Very orderly also, all aligned and neatly spaced. Hmmm, who was the perfectionist around there?

[@danmcn61]

Also, if the note were arrayed on one stair, wouldn't Patsy have to step on the note while she is coming downstairs? Or if she doesn't step on it she would have to step over it. Both were pretty implausible at 5:30 in the morning.

[@kjmmcn7002]

I still don’t think anyone in the Ramsey Family murdered JB. There may have been an accident they tried to cover up, but not intentionally murder her.

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

correct. it was the son burke, he got too rough with JB and accidentally killed her. mom wrote the ransom note and dad went along with it...

[@happycamper1372]

Burke didn’t trip her over the pineapple, he killed her. Yes, he didn’t control himself so it wasn’t an accident.

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

@@happycamper1372 it wasnt a murder, he didnt preplan to kill her. it was a childish over reaction with a hammer or the flashlight etc

[@happycamper1372]

@@Lauren-vd4qe He loved his pineapple more.

[@raumshen9298]

But what's the problem? They could have simply rushed her to hospital and made up a story about she falling down or something

[@vaneast411]

such a tragedy with the Ramsey's slipping through the fingers of justice

[@lutefisklimeade6278]

The Ramseys did it. The complication is local corruption and Ramsey wealth.

[@teddyjam8134]

Put this same comment on one of the mainstream news channels and watch them delete it.

[@julieboice180]

Burke

[@eddypaul8959]

It's disgusting how Patsy sexualised that innocent baby. Horrid.

[@michaelsergejhelgesson1637]

I remember the very first time I saw pictures of that poor girl in the spring of 1997. I was shocked and thought " this is so distgusting! "

[@jennifergrantham2177]

There's absolutely nothing wrong with those beauty pageants she talks about how much they loved doing them together Patsy was a beauty queen herself

[@eddypaul8959]

@@jennifergrantham2177 You of course are entitled to you opinion and I won't try to change your mind. Cheers!

[@eddypaul8959]

You have great taste in music!! I'm impressed. Rock on!

[@iamthatiam1618]

Seems like you are getting closer to proving there was no intruder, Good job.

[@cathymc116]

If Patsy was in the attic bedroom, why was she still in the outfit she wore to the party? Was she drunk? And, if there were kidnappers in the house, wouldn't the kids and Patsy wandering around, the son playing with new gift and video game, the kids eating bowls of pineapple, and Patsy having tea, cause them to reconsider and leave the house immediately to avoid detection by this night owlish family? JonBenet still had pineapple in her stomach. Very difficult to believe that one or two perpetrators got into the house, found JonBenet in her bed, took her downstairs and tortured her and killed her. Then, the perp (s) goes upstairs and writes a very contrived, dramatic, lengthy kidnapping demand note. It's just unbelievable.

[@JanetMurrayPickkle9]

snow melts quickly in colorado. cold nights warm days I lived 20 miles away.I have always felt it was an nside job. So terrible.

[@faepage5157]

I’ve never read Linda’s police report. That would be great to hear your full commentary on it. I’ve never believed there was an intruder.

[@JimmiAlli]

John Ramsey said that a few months before this murder he lost his keys and had to break into the house and the window had still not been fixed. Do we really believe that John Ramsey would break into the house through that funny little grate and window in the basement? Weird.

[@boesenstephanie1960]

There is a theory, when they were at the Christmas Party, she was involved with older men her father knew. Could be where the DNA came from. Wish they would of taken DNA from all males from that party. So sad if that was the case.

[@cheryldellamano3374]

That was my thought too. Someone had said she sat on the stairs at the party crying.

[@KY-jb4vd]

If that were the case, the evidence of SA would have been much more conclusive. As it was, only about half the doctors who gave an opinion on her autopsy even agreed there was SA, given the paucity of evidence.

[@sarahhanson7127]

I have always thought she might not have left the party alive. If anyone saw her in the car or being carried they would think she was just sleeping, no one would think she was de*d. It's normal to carry sleeping children in/out of cars to the house, especially on special occasions.

[@KY-jb4vd]

@@sarahhanson7127 however it is decidedly NOT normal to have children SA'd and killed at a Christmas party and then the parents cover that up??!! That scenario just beggars belief..

[@peternolan4107]

@@cheryldellamano3374 Jeez! What a leap. Six-year-olds cry for all sorts of reasons. Maybe she needed a nap or her favorite candy was gone.

[@lasandralee5487]

I always thought that was a odd place to say that even a burglar would go in, because what if they drop the grate that would make a hell of a noise.

[@RiverRokz]

Yes, and taking it off and putting it back on is noisy

[@ReginaRedding]

Whenever something doesn't make sense, it's because there's a lie in it. Period. Lies, lies, lies and more lies. Who's the father of lies?

[@loisdimitre3886]

Yes, please go through Det. Linda Arndt's 34 page report page-by-page! I never realized there was so much push-back about bringing in the dogs in this case.

[@ps7348]

JonBenet’s little dog, Jacques, would have been able to find her body easily.😢

[@lorrainekelleher6937]

Wow! Where was the dog when the police were there??? Good point!

[@MommawGrace]

@lorrainekelleher6937 The dog was not in the house. They had already taken the dog to a neighbor’s house to care for it while they went to Michigan for a family Christmas the next day.

[@KY-jb4vd]

I think this case is so infuriating and people keep coming back to it because, while some cases can never be solved due to a paucity of evidence, this one had ALL the pieces right there and it just needed to be shuffled and read another way for a different conclusion to have been reached.

[@RiverRokz]

Exactly

[@sherryaleshire9187]

Maybe that shoe print that didn't match any in house was a new pair Burke got for Christmas . Then they got rid of them .

[@marlineemmal6458]

The Hi Tec boots were worn by Denver police. JR'S last interview with 60 Minutes Australia showed a photo of Hi Tecs in the bedroom of Helgoth. He allegedly shot himself after JB's murder. Silenced perhaps?

[@kindcolorado2604]

The son is the killer. Parents covered it up.

[@smokeydog67]

I’m in total agreement with you

[@scratchy1704]

I believe that too.

[@danmcn61]

For Patsy and John Ramsey to cover up for their son Burke would require that they put themselves on the line instead. I don't think that either one of them really gave a shit about their children and they would have gladly given up Burke to the authorities if that were the case.

[@happycamper1372]

@@kindcolorado2604 The pineapple was definitely a clue.

[@jacknemo8021]

Burke, a classic spoiled brat got angry when he saw his sister eating his pineapple pieces, picked up a heavy flashlight that was present, bashed her in the head killing her. The parents covered it up. I will never believe anything else.

[@mt.shasta6097]

You're 100% right.

[@smokeydog67]

They said she would have been strangled first cause there was no hematoma- blood wasn’t present enough for head trauma to have been done first. It just so damn disgusting and tragic no matter how it went down.

[@scottdaley1672]

@@smokeydog67 that would be a bunch of vicious people there

[@sarahhanson7127]

I think he was strangling her & he pulled her over & sje cracked her head open on maybe the kitchen unit/work surface/table etc. the autopsy said the strangulation & head injury happened at the same time.

[@MommawGrace]

Actually according to JonBenet’s autopsy there was intracranial bleeding. She had both a subarachnoid & subdural hematoma but no documentation of how large. Interestingly, the flashlight had no fingerprints on the outside nor in the battery compartment. It had been wiped down. Why?

[@henryardoin8513]

The unknown DNA source came from the manufacturering process!! And why does the word KIDNAPER continue to be used when she was never kidnapped!!

[@LB-lt3pz]

Exactly

[@bills6093]

Well, you'd still need to get around those UM1 profiles in a court if you want to try the Ramseys.

[@nataliegist2014]

I was underwear before using it. And how did it get under her nails?

[@USArmy91222]

the evidence clearly points to the Ramsey's involvement, Lou Smit must already have dementia at this point!

[@JanBee1122]

Lou $mit.

[@danmcn61]

You can rest assured that Lou Smit was paid very very well by John Ramsey. He knew exactly what to say to confuse the public and to exonerate Ramsay.

[@JamesCook-u9h]

Need to check the DNa pf every man at the party that night

[@john-brady]

There was never an intruder. The fecalphile, coprophilic brother avenged his hatred and contempt for his royally spoiled sister buy putting and end to her. Realizing this the parents initiated a cover-up which includes Patsy Ramsey’s rather colorful and extended ‘ransom’ note…

[@jamesfinnin7496]

i want the stuff they used to go to sleep give me a break !!!!

[@MDBeck77]

Yes, it's interesting that John made such a big deal about taking melatonin before bed that night - making sure it would appear he slept soundly, not hearing anything. But if you had to get up early for a trip, I'd think you wouldn't want to risk sleeping too soundly. He said he wanted to get a really good night's sleep. Not buying it. That part doesn't add up.

[@Lauren-vd4qe]

HINT: It was Burke the son. HE was the only one with motive, but it was an accident. He was playing or rough housing with her, and got too rough with her. the parents had gone to bed. she ate some of his pineapple that had been on the table, left uneaten by him. he had been mean her before, he hit her on the head with a golf club prior, he also put poop in her bed, and poop on her candy on other occasions. he was jealous of all the attention that was heaped on her with the mothers insistence on the pageants etc. She took up all of mamas attention, time, focus and energy, in his eyes, and he was right. The parents were horrified, she devised a plan to cover this up, so she wouldnt lose her other only child, and so the family wouldnt look bad if the truth came out of how badly she ignored one child while adoringly constantly displaying the other child! she wrote the ransom note (clearly very amateurishly, quoting the exact amount of Johns bonus money, $118,000, now WHAT kidnapper/murder would KNOW that eh!!!) then after all her invited friends etc had tromped through the house, contaminating the crime scene, supposedly searching for her missing child, she placed the note on the stairwell, then claimed she found THE ransom note, she said. interesting she didnt say, i found A ransom note. she successfully befuddled the police doing this. at the funeral, look at Burkes face and demeanor, he was smiling and skipping OUT of the funeral service, while the parents put on bereaved faces, hmmm... thats odd....then later Patsy the mom dies of ovarian ccr. The father then remarries, but since the incident and his 2nd marriage, now has little/nothing to do with the son! THATS very telling!!! In a Dr Phil interview, Burke as an adult, when asked hard questions about this, puts on a bland face with a glazed smile, a display that body language experts later state, depicts evasive tactics. He doesnt want to talk about it, doesnt want to think about it, doesnt want to get accidentally convicted about it by saying something wrong, and is semi shocked and dismayed his father now ignores him, just like his mom did when he was a child. very very sad for Burke indeed.

[@Independentthinker-d5q]

I believe the intruder theory. But the intruder entered the house during the day , while the Ramsey’s were gone to that Christmas party and remained hidden in the basement. The intruder also wrote the ransom note while the Ramsey’s were gone . He had hours to walk the house, write the letter and plan the crime, with no one being home and before dark .

[@GoldenNugget.]

Yes I heard this theory also mentioned before.

[@Manda2307]

Your analysis is always brilliant to watch/listen to....Thanks for all your hard wok.

[@LB-lt3pz]

Yep they gave Burke a bed time snack (pineapple), went upstairs and heard a scream. They came downstairs and found that Burke gravely injured JB. Then they plan the cover up. Just imagine, Burke knows he killed her, what must he think now of what his disgusting parents did to her to stage a sexual murder!!!🤮🤮🤮🤮They are all so disgusting.

[@rajkoelguapo12]

She was killed via slow, methodical strangulation with a garrote -- parents don't kill their kids like that.

[@KY-jb4vd]

@@rajkoelguapo12 Perhaps some might if their child was actively dying of a lethal head injury and was suffering.

[@happycamper1372]

@@rajkoelguapo12Staged crime scene.

[@LKB728]

I bet it was Patsy who screamed when finding Jonbenet. You can't scream when being choked. The head injury had to happen later since no large hematoma was noted.

[@user-qh8nh7oe6d]

@KLB. Yes, I wonder if it was Patsy screaming, not Jonbenet

[@julieboice180]

Right. Never thought of it that way. Makes sense

[@KY-jb4vd]

I doubt it was patsy as a child's scream is very different sounding than a grown woman's. I think anyone blindfolded would know the difference. And the neighbour did not report a 'female scream', they reported a 'child's' scream. In addition, the head injury did happen first as there WAS a hematoma noted and it bled for an hour plus before her death.

[@user-qh8nh7oe6d]

​@KY-jb4vd The head injury was a closed wound meaning there was no external bleeding. It happened very shortly after the garotting. Poor little girl was still conscious during the garotting as she struggled against the cord, evidence proved this.

[@KY-jb4vd]

@@user-qh8nh7oe6d it happened BEFORE the strangulation and so could have been the reason for the strangulation. Otherwise the hemaotoma (internal, yes but that makes no difference), would not have bled out to such a large size in her brain. Her heart pumped it there.

[@johnkauppi7078]

I think it was Burke. He would have been a very spoilt little brat who was very jealous of the attention lavished on his little sister. Never under estimate how irrationally jealous a child can get of another. He wanted to hurt the little girl a bit, but in his immature, clumsy childish nature, accidently lost it or got carried away. The girl died. And the parents covered it up. That to me seems to be the most rational explanation.

[@Diana-yk7sp]

There was NO intruder. I can't believe people believe otherwise.

[@shurtlocker2216]

I think you have the best opening to your channel. It draws you right in and ready to hear the story. I try to watch everything you post. I do enjoy your channel.

[@TCRS]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@erinmetcalf1844]

Yes, go through Linda's report! I've heard excerpts but want to hear all with you giving your opinion along the way. TY!

[@allan9603]

Something rarely mentioned is the fact that Smit only worked on the case for two days, and concluded an intruder murdered JB. How can one work a complex case like this for just two days and come to a conclusion? Had I investigated this murder scene, I would have been turning in reports for weeks.

[@NonSoup]

Payed off by the Ramsey's

[@aaronbarnett7113]

Follow the money in the community. No one in that town is going to go after them.

[@lillmariwang6568]

One thing that really makes no sense if the ransomnote was written by an intruder, is that the intruder must have known a 100 percent that the Ramseys would call the police, since she was killed several hours before the parents had the chance to read the ransomnote or to call the police. The so called intruder did not kill JohnBenet caused by Patsy calling 911. But If the note was written beforehand JohnBenet was killed, maybe by accident, the ransomenote would only buy the intruder some time to get away from the crime scene. The intruder must have been in the Ramseys home writing the letter when they were not at home and the intruder must have gone through doors and not a window, since there are no evidence of someone going through a window. But there was no sign of an intruder, and I beleive the one writing the ransomenote already knew JohnBenet was dead and that someone was probably Patsy. The ransomenote was a staging and it did buy the family some time to contaminate the crime scene, calling their friends over and all. One thing is for sure, if there was an intruder, it must have been someone knowing the family very very well, having keys, and feeling at home in the house. JohnBenet must also have known the intruder well, to go from her bedroom and down to the cellar. And what about Burk?! He was wide awake the evening (maybe night?) this all happened. How could that intruder have taken JohnBenet without Burk hearing and seeing anything?! JohnBenet had obviously not slept in her own bed the night she was killed either.. Patsy wearing the same clothes as the day before. There are so many things that point to the family being involved here.

[@laurfincher8137]

watched a show about this case years ago and they pretty much figured it was her brother. The snack of pineapple was his but a little bit of that was in her stomach. They figured she nicked a piece from his bowl and he got mad, grabbed the very heavy flashlight that was on the table and hit her on the head. Then the parents started all the staging because they didn't want to lose another child.

[@TCRS]

They figured she nicked a piece from his bowl and he got mad, grabbed the very heavy flashlight that was on the table and hit her on the head.>>>And you believe that, do you? That scenario doesn't explain the sexual interference found in her autopsy, nor how she was strangled simultaneously to the blow on the head.

[@MommawGrace]

@TCRS Disagree. According to JonBenet’s autopsy report, she had redness (vaginitis). Later attributed to her bedwetting. There was no chronic sexual abuse signs. The few spots of blood was caused by the broken paintbrush penetrated in her vagina. No semen present. JonBenet did have intracranial bleeding with both subarachnoid & subdural hematomas. Don’t remember if there was documentation of the size of these hematomas. Since it takes awhile to strangle someone to death ( 6-8 minutes?), her blood is still pumping enough to cause the intracranial bleeds.

[@MommawGrace]

@TCRS Just rechecked JonBenet’s autopsy report. Oddly there is no documentation of the size of the intracranial hemorrhages. It does say that the subarachnoid bleed was “extensive”. Also found an interview with JonBenet’s pediatrician (Francesco Buef ?). He denies that there was ever any sign of chronic sexual abuse.

[@MommawGrace]

@TCRS Correction: Per the autopsy, there was 7-8cc subdural hemorrhage. Not aware if that’s considered a small/medium/large bleed in a child.

[@penelopemason3786]

😮 Smashed it out the Park once again Nick Yes, please go through the pages, vital for my Critical Thinking and notes😊 ❤

[@JamesCook-u9h]

Someone made noise lifting the grate to squeeze into the window well to break a window to squeeze through the tiny window when they could have broken into much larger windows while standing on the grate?

[@annmcevoy9299]

Or gone in an unlocked door

[@KimSzumowski-ku1ys]

How is Mr. Ramsay able to get away with this?

[@danmcn61]

He got away with it because he had money, and he had political influence. Access Graphics provided a lot of high paying jobs, and they brought in a lot of tax money for the state of Colorado. The Boulder District Attorney and the Governor of Colorado were lapdogs to John Ramsey, and they in turn covered for him at every opportunity.

[@susanverhoeven4962]

I thought that Fleet White said he had moved that suitcase under the basement window earlier in the morning when he and John had done their first search.

[@LizWallen]

Why would money have been mentioned when the person responsible knew she had been murdered.

[@joshlife6395]

Yes, that is an excellent point. Why would the "kidnappers" still try to receive ransom money, when they had left the person's body, that they need to pretend they still have alive in order to receive that ransom money, in the house knowing her body would be found within a short period of time- making paying a ransom impossible to happen. In fact, if they had written the letter, accidentally killed her, decided to abort the mission- they wouldn't then leave the letter as it would serve as additional evidence that could lead to them being found out. Alternatively, if they had written the note, accidentally killed her- if they planned on still leaving the note, they would have taken her body and feigned her still being alive to still receive the money. However, as it has supposedly happened, they left a note demanding money and then left the only thing that gives them a chance of receiving that money- JBR's body. Very simple thing to note, but great point to bring up.

[@65if2007]

Is it possible that the "child's scream" heard by the neighbor between midnight and 2 AM was actually Patsy screaming after discovering JonBenet or learning what happened to her? If you're sleepy and you're woken up by a high-pitched scream, are you necessarily able to distinguish between the high pitch of an adult woman and that of a young girl?

[@davidfigueroa6351]

There was no intruder reppin' the "small foreign faction" Patsy made that up. That whole 3 page letter reeks of Patsy.

[@jumpupdown2556]

Right? She didn't make much effort to disguise her handwriting, or diction. Or, it could have been someone else who could recall her writing style easily, and had plenty of samples of her handwriting around the house.

[@jesusisking71...]

I am 53 and hope that this case is solved in my lifetime.

[@annawalmsley5418]

Even if it was an intruder , how could he know that the basement window was broken?

[@Toñita801-l3m]

Just watch Sloan Bella’s 2 readings on JBR. That’s all you’ll need. Both Her parents were involved, directly and indirectly. 😢

[@leisastokes5358]

It has always been flimsy.

[@VirgilTStone]

It's not Flimsy. It's Burke.

[@stevenwalker4923]

It was one of 3 people, her mom, her dad, or her brother. The note is a rouse. This was premeditated. The note was prepared before hand.

[@michaelsergejhelgesson1637]

Yes Nick, I would love to listen to Linda Arndts full report. A first hand description of a situation is always interesting!

[@dixieanderson2276]

I too believe her brother killed her with the flashlight. He would have been jealous of her idolization as a beauty queen and perhaps did not intend to murder her. Patsy chose to cover it up with the elaborate story and staging the crime scene. Dad went along with her.

[@ilish25]

FBI profiler, John Douglas, looked into the Ramsey case very carefully. He believed, strongly, that she was killed by someone outside the family. Douglas is a legendary profiler. The Boulder police mangled this case so badly. They should have searched the house right away. Not asked the father do to it. Douglas said he had never seen a case so badly mangled. People just don't like the Ramsey's, and want to lay the blame on them. The FBI never believed the Ramsey's were at fault. As for the " evidence " outside regarding snow or no snow, the Boulder police mangled that also. Let that child and her family have some peace. The killer is still at large 🤔

[@TCRS]

Another profiler who the Ramseys went to first, Gregg McCrary, felt very differently. Does John Douglas honestly think the Ramsey Ransom Note is legit?

[@suetrunnell9524]

@@TCRS Could you compare this randsom note to the Barbara Jane Mackle note, Atlanta, GA, 1968? The Ramseys may have been familiar with this case sice they lived in Atlanta. Thanks for all you do.

[@johannakortesmaki-kc3xd]

I call b.s. they would have heard her scream, if the neighbors heard a scream, !!!!!!

[@Alex-wv6co]

If someone with a key did this they would have entered through a door. Therefore, no sign of an intruder. Did the police investigate the housekeeper and her family?

[@graffic13]

Patsy and John had something to do with it ... sorry. Patsy had invited people over immediately and destroyed the scene.

[@mandyeckley464]

Very interesting, thanks Nick

[@RunningInLondon]

Always learning and hearing things I've never known, from you. Thank you!

[@TCRS]

Glad to hear it!

[@fionnmaccumhaill3257]

​@@TCRS What do you reckon to have happened?

[@shannonrivas9979]

well …some of us have NOT forgotten that the family was CLOSE FRIENDS W GHILANE MAXWELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@berniehayes8425]

Fleet white said he had moved the travel case to where it was seen ...he stated he was looking for glass from the window and had moved it to below the window

[@BluieBeth]

I have to wonder if they were involved in trafficking or pimping her out in some way. Hear me out. We didn't know/hear about it back then, like we do now, but I have no doubt, it was going on. They were having a party that night. It literally could have been anyone. Maybe they knew about it, maybe something went wrong and that's why they couldn't explain it...because they would have gotten "busted" too. Just throwing that out there. Also, like someone below said, if your child were missing, you would literally turn your home upside down trying to find them. They didn't.

[@kikicat2835]

About the scream heard between midnight and 2 am, it may have been Patsy screaming uncontrollably after she discovered her daughter already gone. The Ramseys wrote on their daughter's tomb stone date of death as December 25th, not 26th which it would have been if the death occured anytime after midnight. Why write the date Dec. 25 on the tomb stone unless they know she died before midnight. So the scream couldn't have been Jonbenet's, but rather the only other female in that house, Patsy's. After that scream the cover up and letter writing began. That's what I think could have happened regarding the scream.

[@marionjames4986]

Makes you wonder what wider involvement there was when the boss tells the police not to bring a well trained dog in, shouldn’t it be the opposite?

[@pinkymaxie]

If my daughter was brought to me dead--I would scream "what happened? Where was she?" Did Patsy ask.

[@EDDIETRUJILLO-q8p]

Nobody is going to calmly, by the writing, going to pen a three page ransom note. Using the materials from the home. You do it first, ahead of time.

[@paulmccloud]

Some time ago, I watched a psychic woman give her reading about this case on KZbin. She told a story that John Ramsey was molesting his daughter Jon-Benet, that started when he used to bathe her in the tub. There is evidence of sexual molestation over a long period, bolstering this theory. The little girl didn't like it and knew it was wrong, and threatened to tell an authority at school. She had to be stopped. Her brother Burke got involved, and it was he who murdered his sister, for whatever grudge he had on her. This theory, as described by this psychic, makes the most sense to me. There was no one from outside the home involved.

[@dennistrull1475]

Maybe both kids were being molested. Another reason for Burke to be jealous

[@brandy4522]

Unfortunately the police let the parents lead and control the scene , situation and investigation. Those 2 people seem so controlling , kaniving, entitled and manipulative.

[@Coffeefueled1425]

I still believe this family, along with others were part of a group who did evil things to children.

[@victorialawhon2251]

What's your proof?

[@user-qh8nh7oe6d]

@coffee. Yes, I'm beginning to believe so too. Its the way it all happened, believe now some kind of filming was going on which went terribly wrong.

[@julieboice180]

Could be. That's what was said in the beginning

[@jumpupdown2556]

​@@julieboice180 and look how quickly they memory holed that aspect of the coverage of the crime. Good to know people in the MIC, eh Johnny?