Oh Joni. You know better than that. Was Woody authentic? How about Joan Baez? What exactly is authentic?
@WillyCLARKE-g8c18 сағат бұрын
Dylan came from the folk idiom where all songs are considered "public domain" and can therefore be looted needed. But what sets Dylan apart is his sincerity. This is what Columbia Records John Hammond saw in him - a rare sincerity. I think Joni iis bitter because she is no longer the young beautiful "magic Princess she once was. Bob has aged better in my opinion.
@rossmunro994616 сағат бұрын
I think you got pieces of the truth - but that is what history is - vision and re-vision - for every story has gaps to fill, some fall out and get filled again. Over and over again, my friend - can't you see, we are in the age of reconstruction.
@jolenedelilys25899 сағат бұрын
This is nonsense! As much as I love Joni, Dylan was a genius wordsmith. Come on! Even if it was a puzzle, he put it together magnificently.
@marvinhancock6433Күн бұрын
Said the joker to the thief
@jj49erКүн бұрын
There must be some kind of way out of here.
@lebe22022 сағат бұрын
The wheel´s still in spin....CIA
@AF-du5vq16 сағат бұрын
I can't get no relief
@michaelbeckwith6177Күн бұрын
Joni is not in Bob Dylan's league ok she wrote a FEW good tunes Bob has literally penned HUNDREDS enough said and Joni is obviously very JEALOUS!! Paul McCartney said when writing songs you start with a popular tune and make it a completely new tune by experimenting with subtle changes!!
@MattWhatsGoinOnКүн бұрын
How absurd.
@johnkaufman547414 сағат бұрын
The folk tradition, from Jimmy Rogers and The Carters up 'till now, is a tradition of sharing. Performers have long built upon each other's work. Dylan has always been "an originator" in terms of attitude, performance style and yes, writing. Mitchell ought to realize there's room for everybody. It's not a competition. She's a brilliant artist in her own right. And so's Bob Dylan.
@DH-ve5bl20 сағат бұрын
I’ve often thought that Don McLean referred to Dylan as “the jester”in “American Pie” because of the irony. Dylan was socially conscious and very serious, especially in the 1960’s.
@willaimoconnell943019 сағат бұрын
Try Dylan himself. He refers to himself as a jester in several songs. Easy to remember lyrics to Like a Rolling Stone for example
@niallswaine24369 сағат бұрын
I have seen Mclean live and he slags off everyone. With Mitchel and him its pure envy. Dylan is authentic as you can get.
@ergbudster333325 минут бұрын
@@willaimoconnell9430 Jokerman.
@jamesswensen688713 сағат бұрын
I think she is petty. Sure Dylan borrows from everything. All his peers respect him, and they know his weaknesses as well as his strengths.
@ambientearth175813 сағат бұрын
i hear her. but artist have always did done this. you can't deny his longevity. bob created the weave.
@beejaycaКүн бұрын
Pot calling the kettle black.
@jonathanwidger332320 сағат бұрын
Proof that the complaints of plagiarism are myopic is that the sources from which Dylan borrows cannot replace Dylan’s use of them. Dylan’s sources minus Dylan would be an artistic loss because, like a Jewish midrash, he puts them in a different light and gives them novel contexts and meanings. And the idea that he should credit his sources in the songwriting tradition like he was writing an academic paper is trivial quibbling.
@bernadettemalec9472Сағат бұрын
He was speaking about what influenced him 💜
@marissadower-morgan331329 минут бұрын
All artists for the most part , stand on the shoulders of their Predecessors
@maggiebryan23559 сағат бұрын
Just another dylan hater love bob❤
@tomfitzpatrick6756Күн бұрын
IF TRUE SO WHAT WE ALL BARROW PHRASES WORDS AND CHRORD PROGRESIONS IT JUST HAPPENS IN SHORT HE WAS GOOD
@JahninkКүн бұрын
Maybe people shouldn't have reverance for anyone. I love Bob Dylan's music, but I don't worship him. I tried Joni Mitchell, but she wasn't a good fit. It's like trying on shoes. All subjective. Why trash one artist against another? Nonsense.
@rossmunro994616 сағат бұрын
He tapped into the stream of all consciousness - that river where everything floats by. Is it plagiarism to pull in bits of words, music and style that were once hooked by others and shaped to fit their times - or is it all catch and release if one can name that tune in one note?
@timetraveler7595 сағат бұрын
I have great respect for both these fine artists. I think Joni is overlooking a creative phenomenon that original artists share; namely, the 'inspirational ether'. There are melodies and poetry swirling around in that mysterious psych-soup. We are no the only ones plugged into it. Sometimes, unintentionally, the same or similar ideas/melodies/lyrics are picked up by more than one set of antenna. Being as prolific as Dylan was/is, its not unreasonable to assume that now and then, he was pulling stuff out of that soup, that was also occurring to someone else.
@paulkweiner65779 сағат бұрын
Interesting, informative and entertaining !!! Excellent plus job !
@corsoconner19 сағат бұрын
Appropriation is a subjective term without being qualified with facts. I would venture to guess that artists take influence and inspiration from wherever they can and evolve in their own uniqueness. There could be some serious controversy here but I say Dylan was a zeitgeist in the 60's and has far transcended and personified a great genius and artistry that runs on the high watermark of the human condition. Many of his songs are masterpieces on a level that very few have reached including Joni Mitchell.
@frankperry111115 сағат бұрын
This is gossip fodder. Let the people speak for themselves. Joni put her comments in perspective a few years back. She calls him a great artist. We all have influences. Joni even toured with Bob Dylan on the Rolling Thunder Revue. Everyone knows Woody was Dylan's Idol. He was doing that style until he developed his own. Your video is gossip baloney.
@nikolic-sq5rx17 сағат бұрын
There's no mystique about Dylan, he's a very prosaic person, but that doesn't mean he's not a great artist
@Mark-v7y8t3 сағат бұрын
Well said.
@taprobinson9595Күн бұрын
Rambling irrelevant pointless all folk music is handed down and Melodys adapted to new lyrics check out woody Guthrie as an example Dylan brought intelligence relevance and meaning to folk and popular music on an international level you don’t get a Nobel prize for stealing this is what sour grapes sound like
@chrisnolan56072 сағат бұрын
Dylan was replaced in 1968 as Paul McCartney was in 1967.
@mikemetague7973Күн бұрын
It's all subjective. How do YOU define: the song?...the popular song?...music?...commercial appeal? authenticity?...art?...appropriation? -- and so on...
@darbabylovesprince22 сағат бұрын
I think she was jealous of Leonard Cohen too!
@LindaHuff-n9x17 сағат бұрын
Joni Mitchell had NOTHING to be jealous about. One of the greatest songwriters of all time and without the arrogance that Dylan always showed.
@AndrewHindley15 сағат бұрын
She jealous of Cohen and dylan..very bitter
@rossmunro994616 сағат бұрын
We live in times of everyone being guilty by degree - so many things we may have seen pieces of - so many completions when nobody was lookin' -and yesterday is always a hard act to follow because tomorrow is so far away. We are all Bob Dylan - but only one claims to be.
@johngomez7314Күн бұрын
She's so full of crap! She doesn't like Coltrane. A legendary jazz man
@hornerinf19 минут бұрын
Joni is a genius in her own right, but why does she have to go after anyone else? Nobody stakes their life on musical artists. If they do, they are not very smart. I am more of a fan of Joni than Bob Dylan but I think her ego sometimes gets the best of her. She is old now. Why not just celebrate her own contribution?
@johnbyrnes7912Сағат бұрын
That's a rather feminine face at the start - I think it's Kate Blanchette in her role as Mr Zimmerman !? 😹
@jimbo3311 сағат бұрын
Horrible hit job that detracts more from the author than the subject.
@8iorekxКүн бұрын
Garbage
@timber7502 сағат бұрын
Different rules apply to chosenites.
@larryzink897812 сағат бұрын
dylan is a showman in show business, a creative fabricator of dreams visions a magpie. jonie is a diaryist a much more narrow frame of reference she is neither epic nor symbolist, she spins in, bob spins out. history will out.
@stevenlopez713522 сағат бұрын
I don't think she is going to buy anything he makes, because I don't like him! ok fine, has he been influenced by others? of course , has she ? Dylan hurt her feelings and she is really mad so she is unloading, many people play and sing better than him true enough, when your one with your music and really loving it, you might not have time for how bitter you are about all the people who were influenced by Chuck Berry
@donfaruolo185815 сағат бұрын
Joni is jealous. In her latter work there is barely a melody to be found.