I Watched Every Music Masterclass! Is It Worth It???

[@hmonerris]

Watching you buy all that expensive stuff makes me feel less bad for buying plugins when it is not Black Friday

[@fkrspdd]

Fr

[@ArthurElectric]

Remember less is more. You more creative when use limited gear.

[@connorphilipp]

@@ArthurElectric lol no. If I'm in a creative slum, Splice's seemless unlimited library gets it back going

[@leandrofigueira4015]

Make a video about Mix With The Masters!

[@RayyanKhanRayyanKhan]

Its all investing into the channel. Reviewing products forms the basis of content for his channel

[@dsquareddan]

LOL I got an ad fir masterclass halfway through this video. “tHiS iS a cArDiNaL SiN oF eDM”

[@Robnmusic]

lmao, same

[@MrClarkio]

If you're not comfortable watching adverts, from my own personal experience, you should try putting on a f####ng helmet.

[@Fifavin14]

Google ads done right

[@nedefendic4718]

Me too

[@AndreasMSchroeder]

MrClarkio Wow, so edgy. You‘re probably the coolest kid in your neighbourhood.

[@zazoomatt]

At 63 now I have watched you for 3+ years and inspired me Jon to do studio thing myself for myself see what happens. Thank you.

[@BlakeHeart]

I am 45, it's never too late to pursue what moves you...

[@tyrantula767]

Best of luck!

[@fowoppy6336]

Can't tell you how much I admire your "jump right in" attitude. Very tempting to fill the video space with reiterations/fluff and not doing so is continually appreciated.

[@Al-tx2si]

Would be dope if Jon Bellion did a teaching lesson in how he produced his music, looking at his music documentaries on how he made the couple of songs is already inspiring seeing him get excited in making music.

[@Danhan12341]

Bro his Glory Sound Prep documentary has such good vibes and inspiration

[@migueljonas8220]

Guys don't forget 789ten videos with D.A.W. files and Twitch streams like Press_Rec, Disclosure and Chris Lake. I've learned more watching those than all Masterclasses combined.

[@rafalvarezsevilla]

thanks for those recommendations!

[@rjbeatz]

I am currently studying electrical enginnering, I hope one day i'll design new audio equipment and innovate the music industry more

[@jairedrob]

Woah.

[@jsobrino]

in my last semester in electrical/computer engineering and i decided i wanna build an analog synth from the ground up later this year/next year

[@bigsmoke8556]

The music industry wouldn’t be the same without people like you🙌🏾you can do it

[@titovalasques]

The thing that blew me away about the Armin Van Buuren Masterclass was that he absolutely SUCKED at playing the keyboards. I mean he was actually worse than me. It actually gave me hope.

[@HoldthatXD]

I've thought about buying his masterclass. Is It worth it? I use FL studio, could I learn some tips from him?

[@titovalasques]

@@HoldthatXD It depends on your current level of knowledge but I guess watching someone else workflow is always beneficial. He uses Logic but I don't think that will matter. You can achieve the same results in FL Studio.

[@eddiecola292]

Yeah you are wrong, it is not wise to call him a musician if he is a producer

[@j03Biz]

Then you can say he actually inspired you because you can play better than him, which is a waste of money. I bought the masterclass and found the Timberland class was fun however it didn't teach me anything I already didn't know so after about 2 weeks of watching DeadMau5, Armin, Hans Zimmer(which really gave me more insight into the film scoring mindset I thought was new and cool, but still not really helpful) I really only got a summary overview of what it is like being in the studio as a producer/songwriter/composer etc...

[@titovalasques]

@@eddiecola292 I don’t think I ever called him a musician and maybe (just maybe) I’m harbouring a bias here but traditionally I always thought some of the best producers were at least semi decent musicians too. But I’m not knocking it, as long as music is being created that makes people happy to consume that’s great.

[@carlosp.1846]

I prefer “Mix With The Masters” courses, deconstructing big hits

[@jacobq.s1338]

I have read Chris Voss book. AMAZING. Totaly worth the money. The best part is that it's all very practical so everybody can apply the techniques.

[@MannyXO]

This guy hit the lottery or something? 😂 damn the buying is non stop init

[@JamesBermingham]

Haha I never see any sessions in the studio or rarely see any work 🤔 I do like the videos though. Well produced. 📽 And Jon is a nice guy. He does drop some cool information ✊

[@bennyceca]

lol he must, or maybe he's working towards becoming a music gear review channel.

[@tonightweride77]

Who said he buyed it? You can get everything for zero. Play later if you think it’s worth it. Same with VSTs. Try before buy

[@jonathanaragon5819]

I mean look at the room he is in. That shit ain't cheap

[@fatuzi]

i’m willing to bet he ghost produced some recent hit lol

[@gtabro1337]

Never got into Deadmau5’ music but I love Joel as a person. Watched his class in my first year of taking music seriously so it seems I did it at the right time.

[@hanfi-music3589]

One I can recommend for Trance music is Allan Morrow. His classes go extremely deep and are not so expensive (especially for the amount of information he offers). On top of that he has tons of videos here on KZbin and a mailing list which alone will teach enough new stuff. To round it up he also offers 1 to 1 classes in which he discusses and helps you with your track. People released Trance tracks thanks to him...

[@micro2cool]

Hate when people gatekeep knowledge

[@devinjamestotheground]

broo when did you get these followers!!? last time i was here it was like 10 thousand something 🤯 congrats bro, so nice to see 🙏🏼

[@Jonsine]

Thanks.

[@bvrbvs]

The new Mix with the Masters, with illgates (edit illangelo) Is great for ableton producers.

[@cashnasty7]

You mean Illangelo?

[@Thadnill]

How much does it cost to take a part of that content?

[@HoldthatXD]

I use FL studio, but I want to learn "Ableton", would he be a good teacher?

[@bvrbvs]

@@Thadnill not for ableton beginners.

[@Thadnill]

@@bvrbvs I never said that I was a beginner I asked how to enroll lmao

[@abhijeetsingh3202]

much needed video. thanks

[@Karlhto]

Thank you for this video. Looking forward to your own MasterClass

[@Jay-ru3hx]

Omg, yes! Thank you! I've been saying this. For some reason, "master class" now means "discussing all the basics" I've literally seen titles (you can find these on YT) "Masterclass: the basics of..." Or "fundamentals of ... Masterclass." "I don't think that word means what you think it means." --Inigo Montoya

[@jb123abc]

I'm currently watching them too all I have to say is Yes there is alot of stuff you can learn & Also alot of the stuff you learn you can also find on KZbin for free ;)

[@williambyrne6855]

The Hans Zimmer class was fun, but it mainly concerned his personal immersion into the creative goals of the film producers. The technical studio aspects were benign. I also paid for the 1-year all-in subscription, but chose not to renew given the general lack of studio substance. That was many years ago. So why did I subscribe to your channel? Because few others get into the various mastering EQ, Compression, and Limiting aspects. And you did that to some degree not to long ago with the BetterMaker gear. Just the other day, I signed up with "Mix with the Masters", and although the site features numerous award winning engineers, the specifics of mastering 2 channels seems to be secondary to recording and mix production.

[@AlexPigin]

EVERYTHING IN LIFE IS A NEGOTIATION

[@benirodriguez9516]

The Masterclass is like going to a couple hours workshop with that person. But NO, you won't learn that much from them, besides from their viewpoints and such. Like Jon says, if you are a fan of some of them, then yeah... get it! If you want to learn, I think LinkedIn has some great courses on production, mixing, mastering, both old school with Bobby Owsinski, and modern school too... I haven't checked FaderPro though but, if Jon Sine is going to release a course/masterclass, that has to be a great thing to check out!! :D

[@omarmustafa2541]

I WISSHHHH they’d make a master class with Kanye west

[@matusb8059]

It would be super inspiring to see him work but I think it would be the same problem with Timbo. Producing is second nature to them and they take some things for granted that maybe to a newbie are hard to understand

[@omarmustafa2541]

@@matusb8059 yeah fr

[@defrigge]

I couldn't care less for someone whose taste a) was low enough to go for Kim Kardashian and b) morally bancrupt enough to support the Fascist Orange Braindead Zombie. What would I want to learn from such a person, ever???

[@omarmustafa2541]

@@defrigge Okay, disregarding his political beliefs, and taste in women, you cannot deny his influence and musical genius.

[@defrigge]

@@omarmustafa2541 Agreed, it makes no sense to deny that. But even there, besides his choice of giving melody and emotions a much needed bigger role in Hip Hop, I'm not still not as much overwhelmed as others. But that's a matter of opinion and taste.

[@djbenjiuk]

so i bought masterclass last year. timberlands energy is super inspiring and well worth it. and i ended up watching it twice just incase i missed anything. Armin van burins class was my favourite good tricks and knowledge drops. the best for logic users! Deadmau5 who i used to really respect being a long time user of Fruity loops back in the day he used to do presets and stuff and his music is awesome however his class wasn't great

[@Heartbeatzofficial]

Thanks for the review! Thought about getting those courses quite a few times but what you said is kinda what I figured already. I get that they have to appeal to a mass audience but I think you‘d kinda expect it to be more advanced since it‘s called „Masterclass“ and these are all pros at what they’re doing...

[@RambowMusik]

Chris Voss is amazing, his Audiobook on the same topic is also really great on Audible. But it helps a lot to have the visual side of it too.

[@mrchrmn]

First of all, I asked myself how you would like to see each online masterclass (related to music production). There are a number of providers and websites for this. But you only mean the provider "Masterclass" ... that is then very manageable. I saw everything there too. It's not that much. You can think of what you want ... I didn't really learn much for practical work there. Rather, I have gained a few approaches as far as my personal mindset is concerned. This is also something different in contrast to all the providers who explain the practical application. Deadmau5 "Masterclass" in particular was very entertaining in this context.

[@4ceGames]

Did you watch the one of hans zimmer

[@Zarvy]

I watched Armin Van Buren, deadmau5 and hanz Zimmer..I have to say you get more inspiration from avb and hanz . If you more in to analog or you obsess with analog stuff mau5 would be better option

[@emilkey12]

Ordered "a couple" more? Oh there are some videos coming! 😄

[@monat_son]

No. Just do stuff. Learn by doing, that's the way. Trial and error. Don't fear to fail.

[@creative_soul-recolo]

EVERYDAY.

[@Weeman5foot]

I was thinking of getting masterclass for a year - I guess I won't need to get it based on what you have said. I bought a couple of FadarPro classes in the sales. One I did not really learn anything from. The other was much better and I got few good tips.

[@WhojaVu]

Personally, My favorites are St. Vincent and Timbaland's Masterclass!! Looks like you missed St. Vincent. Trust me it's worth watching. As a sound engineer, it gives you a different perspective and gets you more into songwriting process!

[@haeeezy5807]

Okay, Shivam! edit: kaise ho

[@carlosdias1043]

Timbaland with "2 dudes" / "some mixing guy" for Justin Bieber ... those dudes and guy are only Jaycen Joshua, Dave Pensado, and Josh Gudwin .... dude! lol

[@bluebird1954]

It wasn't tho 🤔😳 🤦‍♂️

[@AAABeatbox]

KSHMR'S tutorials are amazing. He provides key tips for semi producers who know the basics and want to up their game. Can you do one more review on his tutorials? I'm thinkingn of subscribing to his services.

[@Myspacemeta]

I know it sounds crazy but I just can't imagine anyone else taking you on quite a journey like this, or even trying

[@chicagobob]

Monthly is a lot better than MasterClass for music production. I took the Ryan Tedder and the Kygo Monthly class and they were great. MasterClass just is a brief overview but Monthly gives you hours of access to them

[@hectorjelly]

Very interesting - I wouldn't have thought to watch the non-music videos but now I will!

[@idjdeeway4968]

Armens was the best, timb was more fun showed what working in the business is really like, deadmau5 was good at showing how limitless creativity can be. Sheila E was the only one music wise i felt was worth it for all levels. your review is spot on. i get more from your content

[@the-matrix-has-you]

Cause they dont have a secret their Mastering Engineers has the secret.When it comes to top end Mastering for a World Wide Published song there is nothing like a Burl B2 and Crane and Manley stuff... People dont make fool yourselfs if you want a sound that you imagine. You need kickass Equipments, cables, etc.

[@wokeil]

The production masterclasses just seem like early on tutorials. Stuff you can find on youtube easily.

[@rolandwyss]

Interesting... Two remarks: there's a youtube parody of Masterclass by the Black Keys, which is really funny. But the only masterclass I know is by Herbie Hancock, and it's actually brilliant. I learned so much from it, and go back to it every once in a while. It's so deep, I you can learn new things again and again.

[@paulc7798]

Rick Snoman. Author of the Dance Music Manual does very in-depth video's at Dance Music Production.

[@HITOPMUSIC]

your room sounds crazy quiet!

[@partlysimpson5154]

Are there still "secrets" in music production? Itought there isnt hahaa--

[@carhartcarl1116]

Bro I love your setup

[@Jonsine]

Thank you

[@mbbass6607]

Big background stories, it's mostly like DA dude. AR. 😉😂

[@dylanforbes1676]

Interesting review, thanks. I am considering Masterclass as a newbie hobby producer. Subbed!

[@davemiha]

I think once people show you their DAW, all the tracks AND all the processing (plugins, automation etc.) on the screen it's not really fair to say "they don't show all the secrets". They learn new stuff and techniques every day (like all of us) so they can't really show you ALL their "secrets"... Unless they make a Masterclass course every day :D

[@alvarmas1]

Learn monthly is also pretty good. Starres people like kygo, Ryan tedder (One Republic) and much more

[@DSVN23]

We need a Dr Dre masterclass

[@szeredaiakos]

"I hooked up all of the synths and I ordered a couple more" JESUS FUCK, Sine, you have an issue! XD

[@adibonts]

You should watch the Hans Zimmer masterclass!

[@joshmillere6263]

i believe that would be for more so orchestration than electronic. it might be beneficial but almost two completely different areas

[@Fabi-es1xy]

I like writing in Dee

[@ChrisJustinMusic]

Great video, thanks for making!!

[@allright518]

Mix with The Masters is amazing!

[@Ikas031]

Chris Voss has a great book on negotiating.

[@shrineofbeats6447]

fader pro is also good, showing artists like rodg, shadow child and other armada music faces but they teach many good techniques!

[@SuperAmazingPower]

Important topic!!!!

[@0e0]

Agree with your assessment. Nice of people to make an honest video...If you are looking for a random masterclass for inspiration and you still have your account check out the astronaut Chris Fadfield one

[@briancase6180]

I watched two of them. It's interesting, but I really didn't learn anything special except that they all needed time to become experts. I already knew that....

[@DJFxallMixX]

Nice I enjoy watching stuff like that.

[@HowardCharlesUK]

If they approached you to do one of their Masterclasses, would you do it?

[@hrmvmusic]

I think he's talked about doing one before

[@michaelacostantini]

I'm betting that guitar was a telecaster. They have a sweet spot in the distance from guitar to amp.

[@gustaflembre4191]

Thank you!

[@mr.starkmeknofelgud1191]

I payed $90 for the Armin van Buuren masterclass like 2 or 3 yrs ago and it was a waste of money, for me at least. Everything he taught I already knew, but it was still cool to see his work flow.

[@eddiecola292]

Try an audio engineering diploma much more can be mastered

[@zinaman]

he is Timbaland not Timberland 😒

[@atcordice]

For me that in music I look to other fields to apply to my music

[@skeller61]

I got Masterclass for Deadmau5 and have been enjoying many of the classes. For instance, Garry Kasparov teaching chess. Amazing! I got rid of cable (keeping only the high speed internet, and subscribe to channels like HBOMax, Disney+, etc.). I treat the Masterclass as another channel and got rid of Showtime, which I just wasn't watching. What I'm trying to say is that I wouldn't pay if I only had one interest (music production), but watching Martin Scorcese teach directing is more fun for me than watching a lot of the mindless drivel populating the channels today.

[@Synth2000]

Useful review sir, thank you

[@Gedagnors]

Agree 100%!

[@markomarko9254]

Imagine you see a Masterclass from Skrillex

[@Grant82gc]

I read the book by Chris Voss, he's awesome

[@TheBshwckr]

You didn’t talk about Annie Clark st vincent but she’s really inspiring. She doesn’t go too in depth it’s more about artistry and starting out but she touched me lol. Makes want to go out and try something.

[@Fabi-es1xy]

I like writing in Dee

[@bangerheadboy]

I dont wana feed the addiction but that table behind you would look really cool with rack gear under it lol

[@Jonsine]

Don’t say it noooooooo

[@SadhanaKhawas]

How about skillshare?

[@donsahand]

Mix With The Masters series is more in depth and valuable. I find the 'Masterclass" series to be made for a more broad level of people...

[@Tateshi-Starwalker]

I'm interested in Hans Zimmer's and Danny Elfman's. Did anyone watch them?

[@WarerBrow]

Your stuff is dope.

[@smallshorts24]

what is frequency range absorbed by 2 inch acoustic foam panels

[@unknownuser6574]

when i started making Musik i got tricked a lot into bad tipps or rules. Maybe do a video about the youtube channels that give quality tipps? or can we discuss in the comments? i am not sure if you would like this, because it may gives your channel less attention. Nevertheless i think your video style is kind of unique, because you combine in depth music making with music industries advise, personality and high quality filming/vlogging. Oh and even beginner friendly prized sample packs. I think you are the daily dose of inspiration for a lot of us. I just was thinking about what yt channels does inspire you?

[@Jonsine]

thanks a lot. good idea maybe even collaboration with some of these channels will but it on my idea todo list :)

[@beeisbad]

Where'd you get those lights all around your studio!! That's hot! Post the Link!

[@siona3331]

9:00 You mean feedback?

[@torrest5242]

What a great premise for a video! Loved this, thank you for making it

[@limitlessstudiosprod.9710]

Hay Jon where do you learn most about music production etc. etc.

[@jwizdum2103]

Got the Questlove ad right before this lmaooo

[@v19nator]

I'm a dubstep producer and i need virtual riot masterclass.

[@wiltedangel]

virtual riot is already doing tutorials on yt

[@mjesticbeats7097]

U bought that? U can find those anywhere ive seen a few online

[@CesarMartinez-mb1rk]

excelente....

[@jamiebrown6194]

Have you watched the Kygo Monthly course Jon? If so what are your thoughts?

[@andycalkinhansen3733]

HAHAHAH

[@jamiebrown6194]

@@andycalkinhansen3733 What's so funny?

[@nedefendic4718]

What do you think about Slate Digital?

[@sevsmith2476]

enjoyed that, interesting video

[@andresgarces10]

What's the name of the song at 6:30?

[@mbbass6607]

Isn't the word worth it's but different style, you're a joke guys hahahaha. It's very hilarious and funny your KZbin videos hahahaha. 😂😂

[@0xszander0]

So really, they're not actually masterclasses. More like, normal classes from highly regarded artists. Seems misleading to me..

[@abhishekc1458]

Hey Jon I'm waiting for your (Ashes) track

[@ArtofMusic0277]

Nice stuff👍

[@anthonywilliams6039]

First of all, you can learn from anybody. I watched Deadmau5 awhile ago and I thought I didn’t learn anything. I started getting deeper into producing, went back to it and rediscovered some things in the video. Second of all it seems like musicians are more concerned with saving a buck instead of investing a buck in themselves. Yet instead of taking a class - they will spend that money on alcohol, weed, tattoos or a date. It doesn’t make sense to “save” $50 by not taking a class and just go buy other things. Why not spend some cash and learn something in 8 weeks instead of bitching about money and taking a year to learn that same thing?

[@madboy5067]

Waiting to work with you😍😍❤️

[@JayfkProductions876]

The Gear Demon Strikes again 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 it be like Jon shut up & gimmie your money 🤣