If you can do all of this with a filter I have no reason not to get into eurorack. It's a music nerd's dream come true. The possibilities for sound design reach as far as your curiosity, creativity and willingness to learn will allow.
@humanbeing_3 жыл бұрын
Correction: All of the above, as only limited by the depth of your wallet &/or bank account lol Seriously though, I've been wanting to buy 10's of modules for 2+ years. But ever time I have a few hundred bucks to spend, I can buy am entire Synth, or one module. Putting money completely aside, EuroRack is a every sound designer's and musical artist's dream.
@TayTayMakesBeats3 жыл бұрын
@@humanbeing_ Bit the bullet and started putting together a system, got 5 (6 when UPS comes through this week) modules and love it. It's slow and needlessly expensive to get into (Give or take $1500 CAD and I'm only getting a filter now, still no VCA, just a passive LPF) but I regret nothing, I'm having a lot of fun.
@TayTayMakesBeats3 жыл бұрын
@Mariana Alvara Sometimes I wonder...
@MrLetthemknow1232 жыл бұрын
You can do more in softwear like vital... Buuuuut eurorack makes it real easy to get working ideas.
@theelephantgun Жыл бұрын
It’s expensive and impractical compared to buying a good synth. My eurorack was around 8k and it’s not even close to where I want it.
@snorrevonflake3 жыл бұрын
Thats what i mainly do with eurorack, play with a filter and an lfo for hours
@insectposse2 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a Filter 8 after seeing this demo. Watching it again to try and wrap my head around all the features and it’s just making me want to buy another one. Well done sir :)
@nordengine3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant presentation, and not biased. Just got this module and can't believe how good it is. As a normal filter is stunning, and as everything else is unbelievable. So much weight and detail into the subsonic VCO range, it really deserves a good subwoofer to appreciate. @DivKid, thank you
@sunilsolanki6 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most versatile and beautiful sounding filters ever made. And those pretty lights in the middle! Where's my wallet?
@DivKid6 жыл бұрын
:D
@stateazure6 жыл бұрын
Great filter! Thanks for the vid. I'm impatiently awaiting mine!
@DivKid6 жыл бұрын
Nice one, appreciate that! :)
@jazzjeffjazzjeff5 жыл бұрын
Man, this feels miles ahead of any other modern filter! Number one on my to do list for my rack!
@AlastairWilsonMusic6 жыл бұрын
This sounds absolutely fantastic, and the extra video editing for explaining concepts is much appreciated. I really need to stop looking up filter demos on youtube!
@DivKid6 жыл бұрын
haha we're all filter junkies at one time or another.
@tracyharms35485 жыл бұрын
This filter is now top of my wish list. Your exploration of it was ace.
@DivKid5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tracy, appreciate that.
@sundsyndrome82673 жыл бұрын
Amazing presentation, as always! Love when you say "get this Glorious little ping sounds!" xD
@LukeKillen6 жыл бұрын
What a handy and great sounding module in a nice small form factor.
@DivKid6 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@atkmodular9046 жыл бұрын
Sounds absolutely lovely!
@DivKid6 жыл бұрын
Yeah great work from Joran.
@LeonvanBokhorst5 жыл бұрын
Sold... totally sold. Joran makes amazing modules
@DivKid5 жыл бұрын
absolutely, great attention to detail and quality throughout.
@milk_bath6 жыл бұрын
Outrageous amount of functionality! I'm trying to wrap my head around the 8 LFO mode possibilities when compared to the XAOC Batumi.
@DivKid6 жыл бұрын
Yeah so 4 extra in between phases than the Batumi. Of course the Batumi is clockable, syncable, multiple modes, CV over each LFO etc.
@EightsEverywhere2 жыл бұрын
@@DivKid is there some way to synch the Joranalog based on some relationship to v/o & BPM speed or something like that maybe? Trying to figure this out
@outlier58442 жыл бұрын
@@EightsEverywhere Gate through the hold input possibly?
@mangu19726 жыл бұрын
top notch piece of gear, and pretty inspiring video
@DivKid6 жыл бұрын
Great, thanks Mangu.
@BrunoWiebelt6 жыл бұрын
very good sounding ... like this filter
@DivKid6 жыл бұрын
Nice one Bruno.
@tomevans82406 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for featuring those Dannysound Oscillators too!
@DivKid6 жыл бұрын
Yeah nice to show those off, I'll have demos in September.
@tomevans82406 жыл бұрын
DivKidVideo I'm expecting the thru-zero kit in the post tomorrow! Can't wait to see how you'll use it in your demo.
@MrStognabologna6 жыл бұрын
Oh man when ya start to drive it around 7:30 it sounds really nice with the subtle furr
@DivKid6 жыл бұрын
"subtle fur" that's a good phrase.
@Jimbo3860005 жыл бұрын
Damn I’m gonna spend all my money on filters... I love eurorack filters.
@robertsyrett19926 жыл бұрын
I can't keep my eyes off those Dannysound oscillators you got there :D
@DivKid6 жыл бұрын
They're for later in September, although I'm using them in a video I'm filming today, so you'll be hearing a lot of them.
@joshua427773 жыл бұрын
Glad that you introduced me to this vcf. But if I may ask, what vcos did you use?
@TomMadisonSoundsLewis6 жыл бұрын
I'm 3 mins in and #mindblown
@DivKid6 жыл бұрын
Yeah totally rips open your idea of what a filter can do and presents a tonne of functions to people. Happy to really open that up and show people.
@jonaseggen22306 жыл бұрын
This has nothing to do with that filter but I think you might like this anyway. Random music without synths. Particularilly the first video reminds me of Mutable Instruments Elements: CLINAMEN 2013 by Céleste Boursier-Mougenot at National Gallery of Victoria - Melbourne, Australia kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJWmpqemqrqljpY The last one here I think is really funny Céleste Boursier-Mougenot | From Here to Ear kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaWpqnqVdqadm5o
@DivKid6 жыл бұрын
Nice one Jonas, I'll take a listen in the car today.
@thom-alphaxiii-51066 жыл бұрын
This company always blows my mind with such quality and clever ideas on each new module they make! If i remember correctly You did a very nice video of the erica synths black vc eg and its expander that can send cv’s on each stage of the enveloppe, that should be awesome to sequence and animate this filter in a unsual way. Well anyway, thx (or not) for a new GAS crisis. Please save my money and take some hollidays ˆˆ hope the analog random noise source (aka baby) lets you rest sometimes, just kidding, cheers 🍻
@DivKid6 жыл бұрын
Hey Thom, yeah me too. Compare 2 "oh I don't need a comparator" then BOOOM all the stuff it can do. Same for Select 2. Really well thought out.
@DivKid6 жыл бұрын
I should name Launa "analog random noise" but I doubt my partner will be into that as a middle name, or nick-name. haha.
@StudioOOMZ10 ай бұрын
champion! 🙏🏼
@DivKid10 ай бұрын
nice one
@eyeball2262 жыл бұрын
Sub-sonic filtering isn't the same thing as a slew rate limiting. Slew rate limiters give a fixed rate of change for any change in level - in other words the bigger the change the longer it takes to get there. A filter like this will take the same amount of time to get there regardless of size of the change. If you filter a square wave it gets more and more rounded and sine-like. A slew limited square will get more triangle-like.
@DivKid2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information, very much appreciated. Interesting to know the differences as it opens up potential for more options and patch ideas. However there's a strong argue that in creative and musical use you could reach for a filter or a slew to add a glide or slide to a stepped change. Technically it's different (and I like "technically" too) but musically both would achieve the goals of a user. Really got me thinking though and there's a few things I'd like to go try out. Thanks again.
@eyeball2262 жыл бұрын
@@DivKid Sorry, it turned into a bit of a rant. You're right to an extent, but slew rate glide and filter glide have a really different feel. Filter glide will take the same amount of time regardless of the interval (so the bigger the interval the faster it 'travels'). Slew glide 'travels' at a fixed rate, so bigger intervals take proportionally longer. So a 2 octave glide takes twice as long as a 1 octave glide with slew, but it would travel at twice the speed with filtering. Also with filtering it starts moving fast and slows down as it gets close to the target. That's the main reason the portamento can feel really different between two monosynths.
@DivKid2 жыл бұрын
Hello, not a rant at all. I enjoy these conversations so thanks for continuing. I totally agree with you in terms of different feels. It's like using a slew limiter with curve/shaping. The linear and expo or log slides do feel different. Very much like a different guitar player choosing when and with what acceleration ramp (can't think of a good word for that) to slide between notes. I also know the different feels of sliding at a fixed rate or them taking longer. I tried this with the ADDAC Slew Limiter unit a few years ago which offered time compensated slew as an option. Again, different feel. Really interesting to talk through the details of these things, much appreciated.
@eyeball2262 жыл бұрын
@@DivKid Cheers! It's nice to be able to nerd out about these things. Yeah, it's nicely analogous to the way a guitarist might slide. I think the filter style is actually fairly close to the way most people probably execute a slide, because (well for me at least) they tend to start fast and then slow slightly as you get closer to the target note (so you can land accurately and at the right moment). Of course a better player can do whatever they want!
@DivKid2 жыл бұрын
I got mega nerdy with sliding with a few students many years ago. They'd past there grade 8 (last academic instrument grade here in the UK) and were wanting things to focus on and slides became a thing. The shapes we drew out often resembled a function generator. Sometimes an expo rise and log fall so they slide sort of ramped around. Not saying we spent weeks on this but just odd lessons with micro focus. Definitely fun to nerd out on things.
@theinternetseekers24365 жыл бұрын
What wave animator were you using AJH? Sounds great!
@franknobel47153 жыл бұрын
thank for this! bought one, could you type the patch on the last part you shower, the video is very zoomed in! would be very helpful! many thanks !!
@blflaboratory58232 жыл бұрын
How do you get that waves from the LFO in the section: 8 PHASE VOLTAGE CONTROLLED LFO. Using the same paraments like you do in the video, I just get very low frecuencies, almost unaudible. I don't get it. Thanks! And awesome explanation!
@DivKid2 жыл бұрын
Hello, the low frequencies from Filter 8 won't be audible, they are used to modulate other things when they are so low in frequency. You can see in that section the low pitched sine waves the outputs have on the oscilloscope (Mordax DATA). These LFOs are then control the level of VCAs to make other sounds (external to the module) fade in and out. I hope that's helpful.
@blflaboratory58232 жыл бұрын
@@DivKid Aaah ok ok got it now! Thank you so much!
@DivKid2 жыл бұрын
no worries, thanks for the question and happy to help.
@leel84212 жыл бұрын
hey at 28:19 in the "8 phase voltage controlled LFO" section, what are the LFO's modulating? because it sounds great.
@cardboardmusic2 жыл бұрын
I've seen several videos on this (what looks like a very interesting polyvalent module). I'm curious to know, what happens if you put (as an example) a sequencer in the V/Oct and at the same time put a signal (could be from another sequence even) into one of the Ins? Does it still take the signal, making it a sort of filter, come oscillator, whilst mixing the two or three signals? Thanks in advance.
@MadelnMachines6 жыл бұрын
Probably the most interesting filter module i've seen. It deserves a far better looking panel. Do any others come close to it in terms of modulation features? I've been advised never to stack inputs - what's your take on it?
@DivKid6 жыл бұрын
Nothing really touches this for features, patch led functions and modulations. Never seen a hold input on a filter for example. I don't think the panel is bad but it's all personal of course. Stacking inputs? Do you mean mixing multiple inputs of a stackable cable?
@MadelnMachines6 жыл бұрын
@@DivKidSeems like a 'complex' filter. Yes that's what I mean. Jared from Future Retro said it was fine to use stackable cables to multiply an output but never an input
@DivKid6 жыл бұрын
yeah that's right, splitting outputs to multiple sources is the purpose. They're not made for mixing as the signal will flow back to the outputs and connecting outputs to outputs is the one main rule of the whole thing.
@MadelnMachines6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure I've seen you and other people doing it in youtube videos though which was why I asked. Maybe i'm mistaken or are there exceptions?
@DivKid6 жыл бұрын
I've never done it in a video. But one thing to bare in mind when using a stackable cable is that you can split the signal from either end of the cable. So you don't have to stack them at the point of the output. You can take the output to the input of the next thing in the signal path and then split the signal off there. Which is potentially confusing but nice to do.
@BentonCBainbridge6 жыл бұрын
I've never seen such a feature-packed filter! Thanks, as always, for a great module tour. Where to buy assembled in the U.S.? Hopefully Control will stock?
@joranalogue6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your interest! My main US dealer is Perfect Circuit Audio; they sold out of their first few units very quickly. There will be some more coming their way next week. These are the very last units of the initial production batch, so the next restock will take a few months I'm afraid!
@DivKid6 жыл бұрын
Cheers Benton.
@NickHchaos6 жыл бұрын
In stock at schneidersladen.
@JedShura3 жыл бұрын
I wonder, does the Doepfer a108, VCF 8 have the same staggered sine wave outputs?
@tetsugakusha665 жыл бұрын
Wonderful, GAS-inspiring video man. Top quality as always! Question: I'm looking for a new filter and this speaks to me, but then the QPAS appeared and it seems to be Mr. Sex. Would I be wrong to opt for the Filter 8 instead of the QPAS? They are obviously different beasts, but as someone who has had both racked up, could you give me a little guidance?
@DivKid5 жыл бұрын
Without knowing what you're trying to achieve I can't really comment. If you need stereo then the QPAS. Tonally they're very different.
@kookle6583 жыл бұрын
So...can you open and close the filter with CV? i havent found a way yet.
@duelinmarkers13 жыл бұрын
The V/OCT, EFM, and LFM inputs all modulate the filter's cutoff.
@kookle6583 жыл бұрын
@@duelinmarkers1 I guess I'm used to it being more open and closed like my ms-20 this one is really subtle
@duelinmarkers13 жыл бұрын
On the V/oct (and I'm guessing EFM with the attenuverter maxed) I think you'd need a 10v peak-to-peak input to go from fully closed (≈20Hz) to fully open (≈20kHz).
@timmjohannesbrockmann95305 жыл бұрын
Nice one! And this is the Logic Pro Multimeter analyzer, isn´t it? I really like it, haven´t found a better and more faithful analyzer so far.
@PercivalThe234 жыл бұрын
i see only a mordax data...
@Kkidzz5 жыл бұрын
13:13 DAF.....damn
@DivKid5 жыл бұрын
damn indeed
@cassildaandcarcosa2944 жыл бұрын
Sounds almost rolandish but not? especially with the FM stuff, its like alien Roland.
@dr.eville5 жыл бұрын
Bulbus
@RabRabNZ3 жыл бұрын
your accent is so damn cool are you from nottingham
@outlier58442 жыл бұрын
No, Sheffield
@EntonDelMonte5 жыл бұрын
Sweet design and incomparably versatile.. but it just sounds a bit boring imho.
@joranalogue5 жыл бұрын
Well, that's sort of the point: a clean filter with lots of modulation options, allowing you to dial in the character you want, rather than a 'one trick pony'. It's only as boring as you want it to sound! ;)
@DivKid5 жыл бұрын
I think it definitely has a "sound" even if it's a cleaner one. But I find a lot of cleaner things find there way into mixes and patches just as much as the more colourful, saturated sort of tones some modules offer. For me the modular system is about having a balanced or wide ranging set of options.
@el_dani4 жыл бұрын
Great video, as usual, fine sounding filter, but dear Ben: the 303 has a 24db filter, not 3 pole 18