Jordan Peterson Advice on ADHD | UBC Talk

The UBC Free Speech Club had the honour of hosting Dr. Jordan B. Peterson on November 3rd, 2017.
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[@DonnHowes]

I suffered severe anxiety and mental disorder 23 years ago as a teenage, got diagnosed with ADHD. Spent my whole life fighting ADHD. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.

[@Ronkaja]

Congrats on your recovery. Most persons never realizes psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives. Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here.

[@SharonFalcon-fj7nb]

Can you help me with the reliable source 🙏. I'm 56 and have suffered for years with addiction, anxiety and severe ptsd, I got my panic attacks under control myself years ago and they have come back with a vengeance, I'm constantly trying to take full breaths but can't get the full satisfying breath out, it's absolutely crippling me, i live in Austria. I don't know much about these mushrooms. Really need a reliable source!! Can't wait to get them.

[@mattjeffery09]

YES very sure of Dr.benfungi. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.

[@SandraJulia-lw3kd]

Ive done shrooms last month in my house. It taught me how severely traumatized I was from alcohol. I healed from many mental traumas from my past and was able to forgive, let go. Shrooms to me is a remedy not a vice. I even felt more refreshed the morning after. So no hangovers. No depression mood for days. No anxiety.I now have a more calm mind

[@StephenHackle]

How do i reach out to him? Is he on insta

[@This-account-is-deleted_0]

Jordan Peterson is a good example of how even a licensed psychologist with the authority to diagnose ADHD can have an extremely limited understanding of the condition.This explains why a large portion of psychologists and psychiatrists that I have encountered in the past have demonstrated a frightening lack of knowledge and wrong assumptions about the condition.

[@mattng4707]

Yes like the reason why women are not more on the ADHD scale is due to nature of women they tend to keep mask the ADHD better than boys and as we grow up we freken mask all together ..anyway there a uprising of adult women now with ADHD it just shows up different

[@zasta7]

💯 I have realized this in the past months that people with ADHD know more about ADHD than the ones who are normal and just read about it, including top psychologists. They're like, all over the place. Talking about comorbities, and weird distracting causes and solutions. You can tell they know nothing more than what Big Pharma wanted them to know. That's the reason I found out that I had ADHD when I downloaded Tiktok and watched casual people discussing what their life is like with ADHD. Then I got my diagnosis. It goes to show, that we've left breakthroughs in ADHD as our fate in the hands of people who know little to nothing about ADHD. And it seems scary. Rarely normal people are able to find insights of ADHD brains.

[@zensleep2321]

As someone with ADHD, I think he completely underestimates the amount of problems this can cause for someone. Procrastination, lack of focus, and impulsivity are not only issues that are hard for school or work environments, but also for our closest relationships and our self-esteem. The amount of criticism we have to endure throughout life is overwhelming. There’s no way someone with ADHD can access their full potential in life. Even the diagnosis itself helps us understand and free ourselves from our own shame. Additionally, it has been proven that our lack of dopamine leads to a lack of motivation in life. So are we just supposed to live with that?

[@ponderatulify]

I think you underestimate how much you can train your attention

[@watchingthesky7789]

​@@ponderatulifythe problem is that the attention is literally not something that can be trained in adhd. It's not that we lack concentration. We cannot focus on what we choose to focus on. I've had years of experimental treatments and nothing worked outside the theoretical room I was in. The main problem is that adhd is an executive dysfunction which means that we are unable to do something if the right circumstances aren't given

[@libertasdemocratiam887]

​@@watchingthesky7789the problem is you can function try having a physical disability then come and talk to me about struggling. Pretty much every one of my joints bar a few are hyper mobile and either dislocate or partially dislocate, the pain the immobility I'm sorry to tell you is far worse than anything you deal with. So please stop acting like your disabled. You're not. When you have a physical disability you have to learn to concentrate on every little movement, every little thing has to be planned ,and you have to have back up plans in place should get ill, for example while out shopping. I've been out and had my hip partially dislocate, the pain from that distracted me from all kinds, I've had to learn to make mind continue to operate without getting bogged down by pain signals and the anxiety and depression chronic pain brings. You can trai your mind, you can learn to live with ADHD and above all else you do not have physical limitations. If I were you I'd think myself lucky you're not stuck with a physical disability.

[@libertasdemocratiam887]

Can't realise your full potential? How many people in wheelchairs do you see in the world of celebs and elites? Hardly any. How many people do you see with ADHD? Absolutely loads of them. Ricky Gervais for example has it. You're telling me it's holding you back, the same way a physical disability holds people back? Physical disabilities btw cause mental health problem with anxiety and depression, so you get a double whammy. Alas you think you're hard done by. I'd give naff right arm to have ADHD and a fully functioning body any day of the week or year. Hands down. Without a second thought. Do you k ow how lucky you are to be able bodied?

[@romper4444]

Did you just say no one with ADHD can reach their full potential in life? That's a crock, can anyone really reach their full potential in life? I have had pretty severe ADD my whole life and I have found it to be a blessing and a curse in many avenues thru my journey, but that is the same for anyone's strengths and weaknesses that help and hurt their successes. I've used my strengths and applied them in ways that help me succeed and continually work on my weaknesses. I've been more successful than many and not as successful as others. At the end of the day, using our weaknesses as a crutch to excuse our lack of success is a total crock.

[@gordonhall214]

I was diagnosed with ADHD at 57. Listening to Dr Peterson talk about ADHD is like listening to me talking about baking a cake. I have been present when my wife has baked many cakes but to me an expert would be stretching the truth somewhat. If you wish to educated then take the time to listen to Dr Russell Berkeley, he knows what he is talking about.

[@johneaston6523]

This!!!

[@aiko2d730]

100% Dr Russel B does amazing work in adhd

[@johneaston6523]

​@@aiko2d730Yes, the ADHD OG!

[@jazy3091]

Funnily enough dr. Russel Barkley most recent video where he rebuttal JP points on adhd brought me here. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZnMlJKbfKh0lZI&ab_channel=RussellBarkley%2CPhD-DedicatedtoADHDScience%2B I'm diagnosed with AuDHD and I just spotted a JP's video on autism and now I dread to click it, but also am very interested on what his "creative" mind made up on that subject.

[@Menalix]

Totally disagree, and Jordan tells exactly what the problem is with psychiatrists. If ADHD was such a handicap as Russel thinks, it's funny how it can't be genetically pointed out (such as by gene mutation, like with many other dissabilites). It's also way more common succesful people with adhd, doesn't take methylphenidate, than they do, even though there is a few. Research also show again and again that cognitive therapy has equal effects to that of medicination, and many studies suggest extended medication use can actually damage the brain. A psychiatrist is educated to fix you using medicine, and whilst it works for some, it's also the treatment which can have the worst lasting after effects, in comparisson to natural supplements, diet, therapy and more. I personally did not function on any medication,, only for the first 2-4 months. Today I Instead drink matcha for L-theanine, take aswaghanda, vitamin d3+k2, sleep proper, protein rich whole food diet, stay away from sugar and processed foods. And that's the case for many with ADHD yet Dr Russel B doesn't want to take about it. I will say he has good understanding of how ADHD impairs a person, but his treatment advice is very narrow sighted. The whole diagnosing method of ADHD is stupid, a dumb sheet with some questions, not very scientific at all. Also I would recommend anyone to read psychiatric history, to see how much shit they have committed to people, such as LSD experimenting, lobotomy and what not. Also for 10% to have ADHD with today's diagnoses levels and in need of medicine, doesn't make much sense, according to evolutionary biology, genetic selection, something is definitely off, such as ADHD being a natural response to once's enviroment or once's physicial health, or eventually the diagnosis method is bad, idk but something is off. I would much rather recommend doing a gene test for problems (costs about 60 usd), and a brain chemical level test (cost about 200 usd), and then trying to make up for once genetic traits and chemical lacks that through natural meassures, before throwing yourself into the hands of a psychiatrist.

[@MrLuigiFercotti]

My ADD was not diagnosed when I was a child, and I only sought help for it later in life. I was the classic "smart" kid who didn't get very good grades, was often inattentive in class (or clowning), and an expert procrastinator. I totally agree that the medication does nothing for cognitive ability. However, my subsequent experience with stimulants allowed me to get shit done like nobody's business. And let's face it, that is 90% of the battle in school and your professional life. School and work demands organization and production, lots of it. The opportunity to use you creativity, imagination and skill (which absorbs you totally and attention is not an issue) is generally not required much, even if your job requires it. Most of the time, work and school is effing rote and boring.

[@Katya_Lastochka]

That's the problem with school. It doesn't stimulate or make use of the whole brain. America has one of the worst education systems. I got very good grades but I can't remember a single thing I learned in school, other than reading/writing and some math.

[@tangtang7560]

Could not agree more! People always refer to me as "street smart" and driven but I did not succeed in high school because of my procrastination especially in less interesting subjects. My ADD investigation will be done in a month so will then be answered with what treatment of medicine/CBT I should receive to easy my symptoms.... What stimulants did you take?

[@tomcat8662]

You’re absolutely correct. It comes down to getting shit done. That’s why I still continue to take medication for it. I realize that it diminishes my creativity some but hell, I can’t be day dreaming all day and bouncing from topic to topic. There is no industry in that.

[@TotalRookie_LV]

@Ben Rosteski They might be reluctant, because proper diagnosis is expensive, and in some countries healthcare specialists have limited budget for drugs and procedures, no idea how that works in USA and Canada. I took my kid to a specialist, because several years ago I learned, I might be _different,_ and it isn't just normal daydreaming, and all those "are you even listening to me?!", "why haven't you properly prepared?" and "how could you forget that?!" I've been hearing since childhood might have a deeper reason. And it's not just behaviour and being moody, there are also physical symptoms associated with dopamine deficit. What's more, I was almost 40 then, and I saw my kid having it even harder than me. I was just "lazy", where he acts like school homework are some kind of torture. And still he has some of the highest grades in whole class. So did I, until secondary school. So, as would be expected, if we have ADD (I'm not diagnosed), he lags behind his peers in emotional development, yet is a couple of years ahead by intellectual abilities, at least math, so the best choice for him would be a private school with small classes and attention to each kid, but... No, we can't afford it. So, back to the point of proper diagnosis. Specialist said, questionnaire alone and tests are not enough, only a brain scan can tell with some certainty, if that is ADD or not, and that's expensive.

[@KP-qe8ie]

Vilma Betancourt the truth is that there is no reliable test and any doctor diagnosing you newly as an adult is just making something up to make you feel better

[@howardmoon1234]

For what it’s worth, my brother has severe ADHD and it was obvious from a very young age. When unmedicated (and this was also true pre medicated) he could not maintain his attention on anything for longer than around 45 seconds- even on the things he is interested in, which is atypical of a lot of people who get the diagnosis. You cannot hold a conversation of any kind with him that does not involve a direct order (which he will often forget in the process of executing). He loves video games but outside of platformers that switch the present task at regular intervals, he is terrible at them because he cannot maintain thoughts on what he is doing. He has days where he eats almost nothing, and days where he eats utterly excessively because he cannot create a routine. Compare all of that to when he is on medication (it is Concerta for him, which is Ritalin squared). He is able to hold down a steady job, meaningful relationships, and is a good guy to be around. Medication has saved him from a life of overstimulated confection where he cannot do anything but forget what he was just doing.

[@BearKlaw]

That's a great story, and I'm glad it helped him succeed. I remember when I was 23, I was on thin ice at my job due to my adhd. So, once I was prescribed Adderall, my work performance increased by a lot.

[@jamesemerson4102]

I was diagnosed at 31. I have suffered severe anxiety and depression my entire life and as an adult I have gone through several addictions that I have essentially imposed on myself because of what I would describe as severe boredom, constant procrastination, anxiety and lack of stimulation. Nothing made me excited anymore. I didn't really get pleasure out of anything. The only thing that calmed me down enough to enjoy playing music which is what I do, was illegal marijuana, which also caused tremendous anxiety and made me totally disorganised. I am now on ritalin and it's absolutely changed my life. I basically don't know what boredom is anymore, and I look forward to the little things in my day now. I can be in the moment and actually enjoy doing things that before, I was totally unable to do due to severe, crippling procrastination and anxiety. My confidence and ability to confront difficult situations and stand my ground appropriately when needed has improved tremendously. I have given up alcohol, cigarretes and marjiuana and no longer binge eat. I am working about 20 hours more than I was before during the week. I am on the lowest dose of my medication. My anxiety was essentially obliterated once I went on a stimulant. Oh and my sleep is WAY better. I have never slept so well in my life. It's absolutely changed my life. Sure, ADHD is overdiagnosed but for people who have it, true ADHD it can contribute negatively in your life to have devastating effects. I feel deeply for those who have suffered awful addictions, depression and anxiety, and have been told they're stupid all of their lives who could be helped enormously with medication.

[@yxcvbnmnina]

That’s great to hear, really happy for you:) How much Ritalin do you take / when in the day? Was it tough to figure out the right protocol for you?

[@jamesemerson4102]

@@yxcvbnmnina Thank you. I am on the lowest dose of Concerta (slow release ritalin) 18mg. I take one tablet in the morning. For me, the medication definitely took some getting used to at first, and is quite different when I have food with it. It is smoother when it wears off if I have a hearty breakfast or at least a good serving of milk and dairy. I tried Dexamphetamine before this and it made me feel amazing at first and then crash like crazy. It basically made me feel really high and then no good, and not calm. So, next it was ritalin short acting. Immediately, It was the calm that I was looking for all these years. Calm, collected, focussed. The problem was that I didn't like the way that it made me feel as it wore off. It was a little too irregular for me. Then I moved to concerta. Still took some getting used to after going all of my life with ADHD and no medication, it is a bit strange at first to adjust to the different way your mind handles emotion. After my whole life never being able to live "in the moment" all of a sudden I could just be in the now and found myself not constantly searching 8 hours ahead in my day all of the time like I used to. I used to fluctuate massively between emotions of highs and lows throughout my day. Now, my mood is more stable for longer periods. I feel more motivated for longer periods of time without the nasty lows and anxiety and racing thoughts that I used to deal with. It was strange at first, and I almost gave up, but persisted, and once I got used to it, it has given me so much peace. My most profound moment was when I was lying in bed one night and my mind was simply clear.... not full of nasty anxieties and racing thoughts. It was a moment of profound peace that I have never felt all my life.

[@likemysnopp]

yeah I think people seem to forget us who have actual adhd and have had to endure many things without even knowing why we "fucked up" over and over again.. and then we finally find out and the meds make a life changing difference for us and we can finally have a stable life. Oh and the sleep is beyond helpful. Its hard to even explain how much difference it makes..

[@GrimFowler]

My grandmother is 70 and based on stories from her and others in her life, and being her live in caregiver, she definitely has add. I cannot even imagine how successful she could be had she gotten help early on. And now mental decline is starting. It breaks my heart how much of a joke mental health is made out to be in America.

[@yoshi.jeje_StructuralEngineer]

There are almost no correlation between the two things. You can be well all your life and have a bad mental decline…

[@talktameefromthegcrnetwork8989]

I struggled to be a B student. I was always extremely intelligent. Medicated and diagnosed with adhd at the age of 30. It's like I'm now the man I always knew I could be. If I had caught this earlier in life I probably would have been a doctor/lawyer. Regardless, I'm thankful to have a new power and focus in life.

[@micha4431]

With medicaments?

[@talktameefromthegcrnetwork8989]

@@micha4431 yes

[@Vardar-cj4xn]

Maybe the problem is the competitive system making people belive they are a B

[@talktameefromthegcrnetwork8989]

@@Vardar-cj4xn I think there's truth to that. The most successful people have an effective support system, allowing them function at their most optimal level. Medication is just one of many supports.

[@Vardar-cj4xn]

@@talktameefromthegcrnetwork8989 going deeper to this topic, the competition itself is a systemic violence that brings tension to people's mind

[@benf101]

You don't have ADHD, your problem is these things: *goes on to articulate symptoms of ADHD*

[@machobunny1]

It would have been nice if the video ran long enough for him to answer the question. This kind of editing causes my CPOD to kick in, Chronic Pissed Off Disorder.

[@janishart5128]

@@georgeglassell6084: Yeah, you're right - I watched the ending of the video again, and he does point to someone else. Thanks!

[@bmxshow]

Hahahahahahahaha

[@alexcipriani6003]

@@georgeglassell6084 yeah he finished but did not answer it

[@alexcipriani6003]

by all means not a complete answer but one that is multiple levels above Petersons kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZCqZ5ZjptZ-obc

[@maxonmendel5757]

If you have moderate to severe COPD, humira can help. Humira is designed to help those with moderate to severe COPD. Talk to your doctor before being prescribed humira. Humira may cause brain tumors. Stop using Humira if you experience nerve pain or intestinal bleeding, as humira has been known to cause or worsen symptoms such as severe nerve pain and plaque cirrhosis. Moderate to severe COPD? Humira can help.

[@RuminatingWizard]

I wasn't diagnosed with ADD until I was 38. I believe it played a huge role in my divorce. Medication changed my life.

[@chrisb8075]

Yep, Amphetamine will do that.....

[@stephenjemyers]

How's it going now Bravo ?

[@FlavourEd88]

I'm 38 and after hours of research and a couple of tests, I'm more than sure that I've got ADHD. I need to get an assessment from the clinic to get medications... unfortunately it's not cheap

[@haitamvfxer]

It’s more like your ignorance of the 5 big factors.

[@FlavourEd88]

@@haitamvfxer what do you mean?

[@lography6917]

My adhd was basically ruining my life. I have those temperaments that Jordan described, but alone I could not stop pulling my beard hair out and I had a severe tick when I was a kid (full blown Tourette's for a while and it was made worse on Ritalin and Dexedrine). As a 29 year old now, I was able to get a prescription for Vyvanse and my life is going a LOT better now. There's a bit of a stigma that adhd doesn't exist or that medication can't help, but I have no side effects (besides loss of appetite, but it's used for binge eating disorder, which is good because I overeat anyways, likely due to this). Also I have trouble sleeping some nights but I always have, and this is technically after the medication should have worn off anyways. I'm a teacher and I see ADHD symptoms in many students and what likely is actual ADHD in maybe 4% of students (1 per class of 25). Which I just googled after writing that and is dead one with the average. Perhaps it's over diagnose or prescribe, since the number is higher in children and lower in adults. But as I have moved into adulthood I can tell you that adhd is real and it's not something that goes away. Medication can help to manage it. For me it's like having many radios playing at once, and the medication technically turns one up louder than all the other so you can focus on that one (I think anyways). But the effect I feel, is like they all shut off, and I just hear the one, quietly. I am actually able to read books, plan out my semesters, not lose things 24/7, write a checklist and sequentially get it done and not scatterbrain my way through 20% of 5 different things. What's most important, is that my medication has made me feel normal enough that I notice when things should simply be done: brushing my teeth, putting dishes away, making the bed as well as getting more exercise, eating when im actually hungry, using checklists, actually listening to people talk and not getting lost in my thoughts and having to guess at what they said. It's helping me to develop the habits necessary to ameliorate the symptoms of my adhd, so it's a bit of a catch 22. But for me, ultimately it's nothing short of a miracle.

[@shmattice888]

Just wanted to say dr Jordan Peterson has changed my life and I’m only 16 been threw so much in my life but as many people say I started changing small habits like studying and righting neater and getting up early , reading books in the Morning , telling my self I can instead of I can’t. I also suffer with a multitude of disorders and let me just say this man has helped me Thankyou dr Jordan Peterson

[@thejamunit2835]

Good on ya man, that's actually a huge deal. 👍👍👍👍👍

[@andreborah]

Can you suggest what videos to watch on jp. I struggle with procrastination.

[@shmattice888]

andreborah ok so what I do is watch everything on him . Every video I can get . Start by watching his 7 minute videos then move up and start watching his 20 30 minute lectures . I’m not that smart of a person so I watch the short ones Becuzse of the information I’m able to hold . If that helped you anyway

[@reyesrebekah]

I dont mean it in a bad way but you misspelled writing

[@timothyw7742]

@@andreborah JP has been a great help to me, he helped me gain clarity on some issues. We're all different so the way his message helps you is going to be unique to you. I did a quick search of "Jordan Peterson, procrastination" and found this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/haCkZWNnbLJqjbc If you're younger and don't fully understand all of the words he's saying and what he means, don't become frustrated and give up. Write down the words or concepts you don't understand, do some research, learn, and go back and watch the video again. Ask your parents about some of these things. You need to find out why you procrastinate and it will take some serious commitment on your part to see the mistakes you are making. Would a successful person you admire sit around wondering why they procrastinate? Sometimes you just need to take action, and you need to care about everything you do! If you care about sitting around and putting things off then don't dare to blame someone else, because the consequence of not taking action is seeing time fly by and not accomplishing much of anything. I'm 30 years old and I've struggled with procrastination and I'm always feeling like I'm playing catch up. It isn't a fun way to live. Anyway, I hope you can kick procrastinations ass and be a successful person. Hope the video I posted helps you ✌

[@mrchams]

I admire Dr Peterson however I feel he didn’t answer the question which I thought was excellent

[@jackmikhail6807]

@Brian Andersen I found mindfulness frustrating. Its the same as someone telling you to sit and be quiet. You just can't do it consistently. I think exercise is way more effective for someone with ADHD than sitting trying to be attentive.

[@jackmikhail6807]

And not just any exercise. It is exercise or an activity that is really fun and enjoyable for you. For the average person,there isn't the opportunity for spontaneity and exploration. It is continuous repetition and routine. Something many with ADHD, like me, detest and become depressed about.

[@ld8956]

@@jackmikhail6807 meditation doesn't require attentiveness, on the contrary.

[@jackmikhail6807]

@@ld8956 Mindfulness needs us to focus does it not?

[@ld8956]

@@jackmikhail6807 at first yes until it becomes muscle memory, but what about meditating or praying?

[@melaniem6835]

ADHD is not Dr. Peterson’s strong suit🤣

[@tannerphillips8338]

Medication for my ADHD saved my life. I would be worthless without it.

[@ChristopherStLouis-tc5qn]

So he doesn't know shit about ADD or ADHD. Lol. Stimulants such as ritalin and DeX or Adderall do wonders. I remember my first time I took.ritalin. it was like "Is this what it's like to actually be able to focus?" "Is this how normal people think?"

[@wilfdarr]

For some. My sister is thriving. For me, they made me suicidal. I'm much happier “struggling” with my ADD. Even though it ultimately cost me my career as a pilot (many people with ADD are good pilots, but I couldn't maintain my focus when it was needed), I at least still have my life.

[@FrankD-fo2be]

I worked with someone who was a marginal employee in terms of productivity and in grasping new problems. He got married for the second time years later and his new wife sent him to a doctor who put him on medication in a few months he became a star employee. He got promoted and became known for his grasp of municipal law and codes.

[@yulsbrumbeck4081]

I was diagnosed with ADHD at 41 years old it might be over-diagnosed in men but it's definitely under-diagnosed in women, I have struggled my entire life for everything, from the most basic of tasks to socializing, to studying, working... Just everything has been an uphill battle after another, without an explanation, but a lot of criticizing from people around me I've been called lazy, clumsy, a total disaster, uninterested, a weirdo, too intense, too sensitive, crazy, messy or a total mess...and many other things, I've been bullied, not only by my peers but by teachers, and other adults that were supposed to protect me... And now that I'm finally diagnosed there is a sense of relief accompanied by a sense of Lost and grief... Realizing all of the things that I could have done, all of things that I've lost if I had only gotten an early diagnosis, I was always always like this except for when I was a child I wasn't hyperactive, I am now though, it has gotten so bad that I'm not even able to work at this moment, I'm just started medication but I can't yet say if it works or not if it's going to change my life or not cuz it's a very low dose still and I can't feel anyting, but if it works believe me the side effects are well worth it to have some kind of a life... To give my daughter I better mom!!

[@quantumzoflyne]

Underdiagnosed in women (mostly misdiagnosed with bipolar and simply depression), I was undiagnosed as a child, grew up completely unaware of the origin of all my ADHD symptoms since childhood, and I wad simply considered a difficult child. I‘m finally doing much better, being diagnosed (professionally) with ADHD and high functioning ASD (obsolete Asperger‘s), I was able to receive very targeted treatment and function better.

[@honeybunch6473]

Let me tell you ALL mums have areas they dont do well in. Your ADHD means you probably have amazing depth of empathy, you are also probably the most loyal person to have as a friend, partner or mum. You also know how to be resilient, get back on your horse and hiw to advocate for a child.Don't try and work against ADHD - use it to your advantage. Instead of trying to be super organised for example, teach your child not to go to pieces or beat themselves up over failure. Teach them to roll with the punches, move onto plan B, not internalise failure, set their own standards that don't lead to depression. By putting yourself under pressure your child feels the anxiety, it makes them anxious etc. You can impart these things on your child because you know. I've seen many an organized parent stress the hell out of kids. Make mistakes, talk about them, learn from them, say sorry, forgive yourself and show your child that it is ok to be human and your own best friend. You are going to be awesome ❤

[@lizanguyen2]

@@honeybunch6473 This is a really positive message and great reminder for me. I don't have ADHD but this still applies to me and my ADHD child. I have to remember not to pressure him so to cause anxiety whenever he makes mistakes. That can lead to serious mental health issues when he's older. Thanks for this 😊

[@honeybunch6473]

@@lizanguyen2 I didn't mean for it to sound so tough. My son has ADHD. I decided very early on that above all I wanted to preserve his self-esteem because thats more difficult to replace than most things. It is not easy dropping the balls all the time and feeling like you keep letting people down. We both have a great sense of humour and it gets us through a lot! I believe EVERY outcome hasxa positive and a negative side. We find the positives. ADHD is only a small part of who your son is - don't let it overshadow the best parts. Xx

[@AkeruShinzo]

I have been the same But crazy thing is that everytime someone says a problem is too complex to solve in almost anything i solve it. So basically i suck at Everything people find normal or basic But I am extraordinary at things that people feels impossible. So it is a handicap and a super power so be thankful and dont do negative self talk. Be objective with your self and realise that You are perfect as You are. And one more thing! many people tend to relax After getting a diagnose and distance themselves from the diagnose as If it is outside themselves or a Pet They have at home. It is part of who You are. A small part But a Very significant one!

[@CherylBeachlerRizzo]

ADHD is NOT a temperment or a personality type. It is very disabling. Good doctors and teachers can tell the difference between childhood energy and a child that can stop himself from moving or talking and just can't do anything right. The stimulants work differently on people with dopamine deficiencies. They don't get the high that leads to addiction. Remember as interesting as he is, Dr. Peterson is a freudian.

[@geneconnell4393]

I really don't feel like he answered the question, the guy was asking for advice of how to deal with a problem, not exploitation of well-known corruption in universities.

[@ellemred]

Agreed, for too long adhd has been ignored behind a veil of "its complicated and overdiagnosed". It's a neurodevelopmental disorder that has a lot of fascinating neuroimaging and medical empirical evidence. I'm presuming this may not be his area of interest

[@MrMawnster]

he didn't because he is giving opinion here and out of his "domain of expertise" ( His phrase) He often steps out of it.

[@jasoncoker5838]

@@MrMawnster you have the most correct answer I respect that

[@johannagustsson1533]

@@ellemred maybe JP has himself ADHD

[@khanyisa7373]

@@johannagustsson1533 That one is clear.

[@-The-Stranger-]

I can respect that about the guy. If he doesn't know the answer, or doesn't have the ability to get into it, he'll just say so.

[@sweetdaddydong]

I feel like the title of this video is misleading. He answered the first part of the question, yes its over diagnosed. But there was no tangible advice on how to deal with ADHD. It was a smart choice because its super complicated, not all strategies work for everyone the same way and ADHD isn't his particular area of expertise. It was very strategic and smart of him not to offer advice on this subject in this particular speaking format. You can see how carefully he was trying to choose his words. Very smart man. The point about the professor dealing with the problem is a nice idea but in practice is probably not practical given first year university class sizes.

[@atiq.r]

From my POV he did answer it. He presented an unpopular opinion. It’s late so I’m too tired to explain it.

[@kuchen_]

“Unpopular” because it’s misleading… ADHD is not over-diagnosed.

[@chesterg.791]

I went to private school and was going to be held back in fourth grade because I could not focus or sit still in the class room. I took Concerta, my grades went from below a 2.0 gpa to a 3.5 the next semester. I also had to take speach therapy for stuttering. My stuttering went away completely the first week of being on Concerta. My teacher thought it was a miracle from God lol

[@ColemanOutdoors]

I've got 3 of those myself Chester! You do what works for you and your children and to hell with a sibling, co-worker or man on the street. Lots of opinions out there about how bad it is. I know one thing for certain all 3 off my children had very similar outcomes as yours. And we struggled and carefully considered the opinions with all 3 of them. So keep being an advocate....I am!!!

[@joshibrahim1537]

KZbin is not a place for ADHD statistics and trendy popular psychologists don’t have the answer.

[@yepyep266]

Chester same story here!

[@mariohuarte6104]

Well since everyone is sharing their experiences i will share mine. I was a terrible student, failed a lot from the moment school started requiering work (agr 14 or so). I got diagnosed at 17 and medicated for 3 years (methylohenidate). During these time, I turned my academic life around but my social life declined substantially. The biggest diference after this tiem was that I now had the self confidence that I was capabple of hard work and even if it was harder without the medication, I finished got my engineering degree. So the takeaway for me is that medication can be helpful (but it doesnt help everyone and you need to want it to help you) but I don´t think is a long term solution. The long term solution is to learn to live with the ADD and find tricks and techniques that work for you.

[@OhYeah3D]

I am ADHD, and I feel like my meds help me focus a shit ton more at work then if I didn’t have the medication. I’m glad I have medication as an option.

[@Fijidummo]

Do you take breaks ?

[@OhYeah3D]

@@Fijidummo Yeah like lunch breaks and stuff

[@sayedalazam4228]

Get a hold of yourself man

[@diegoureta9435]

what meds do you take? and you dont feel any side effects?

[@OhYeah3D]

@@diegoureta9435 Conserta, if you take the right dosage you shouldn't have any side effects I've been taking it since i was kid.

[@therambler3713]

Its sad how a couple overzealous doctors and pill pushers abusing adderal have ruined it for people that are genuinely suffering from ADHD. People don't even talk about ADHD sufferers anymore. In relation to the subject they just talk about the doctors that over diagnose it and the people that abuse its drugs.

[@EmeraldBayMovies]

I feel the same way man. If feel like it's cool for people to hate on people with ADHD now because people think it's a joke. Everyone thinks they truly understand ADHD and therefore they KNOW that we are just "looking for attention" or some shit, but really they don't know anything. Shit like this makes it harder to ask for help from friends and family when you are experiencing problems with ADHD, because no one takes you seriously. This leads to further feelings of separation from "normal people" and therefore increased depression and anxiety. I think there's a much bigger link between ADHD and depression/anxiety than people realize.

[@crystalwalker6496]

Sorry, but not surprised, to hear that. I hear how it is overdiagnosed, so that means in some cases the diagnoses are correct. I’m guessing most folks gloss over that part. Much of psychology shows traits in the form of bell curves. Seems to me ADHD folks are extremes of healthy traits. I believe we are all created to fill niches and folks who are at extremes fill very special niches. I’m sure society needs ADHD folks to fill roles they are uniquely made to fill. Instead of focusing on drugging folks, I would think it would be better to figure out the strengths as well as weaknesses and helping folks to figure out where they fit rather than trying to make them fit into the mold of everyone else. what is their mold, what works for them? I’m sorry, I ramble.

[@therambler3713]

@Fish Sandwich Well it's a good thing the existence of a disease doesn't only rest on the word of ONE man but on actual research done by many scientists.

[@therambler3713]

@Fish Sandwich Well I don't know who you're arguing with or insulting but it sure ain't me. Perhaps you need a shrink more than me. But anyways I've taken charge of life. I lead a very responsible life, in fact next year I will be graduating from medical school. I'm very happy and proud of myself, and the effort I've made in my life despite my condition. I don't feel anything towards folks like you that are clearly channeling their frustrations from somewhere else on to other people they consider weak or pathetic.

[@therambler3713]

@Fish Sandwich A consensus is not always accurate but it is still important in order to form a coherent or consistent set of beliefs so we can all agree yellow is yellow and red is red. Until good evidence can be presented to disprove a consensus it is foolish to assume the truth can only be found in one lonely rebel.

[@ecurb10]

"Psychiatrists aren't scientists, they're engineers..." - wow, hadn't thought of it that way. Makes sense.

[@MrBossman1993]

@cyb3rpunk 2077 wow

[@ecurb10]

@cyb3rpunk 2077 Haha...hope not!

[@issaciams]

That doesn't make sense at all. This is why I like Peterson but I don't agree with him all the time.

[@samwoodsywoods]

@@issaciams He means it is an applied science rather than a pure science

[@TheRealHerbaSchmurba]

issaciams it makes sense, scientists observe and understand. Engineers design and create using what they understand.

[@eatymceatison97]

I definitely think it's over-diagnosed, but when you can't even pay attention during a normal conversation and your life is slowly falling apart, I don't mind slowly ruining my brain over time. I got diagnosed at age 24. Always got called lazy until then, and it made me so, so sad to be accused of mere laziness when I couldn't help being so extremely distracted by everything. Yes, I was understimulated and neglected as a child. Who knows what kind of damage that did to my brain, but what I do know is that my brain developed differently, that I display an extreme amount of adhd symptoms and that there's no way of changing my brain now. So until they can offer me something at least as effective as dextro-amphetamine, I'll stick to my medication. Yes, it is messing with my heart function, but that's not nearly as awful as not getting the most basic tasks done.

[@an-ub8kv]

How does it ruin your brain over time? Adhd medication in therapeutic doses is not neurotoxic.

[@lkmuks]

I'm turning 27 in a couple of days. Filled out a ADHD questionnaire for adults (the proper diagnostic one), and it one of the most profound realizations of my life. If the stimulants help, but cut my life expectancy by 15 years , so be it, I want a normal fucking life

[@aconfusedshoe6240]

@@lkmuks Wishing u and OP the best

[@plsspayorneuter]

@@lkmuks I've never heard of stimulants cutting a life short by years. Source?

[@forthesakeoflogic5254]

​@@plsspayorneuter there is no clinical evidence for that. Long-term use of stimulants when taken at therapeutic doses and under the supervision of a medical practitioner / prescriber, haven't been tied to premature death or cutting someone's life short and with ADHD. Untreated or undertreated ADHD On the other hand, is tied to higher risk of premature death and lower quality of life overall for patients. Also, it's important to account for the comorbid conditions that can occur alongside ADHD and impact someone's potential lifespan as a result. Anxiety Disorder. Major depressive disorder. Substance use disorder. You have to be careful with stimulant medications, just like within the other medication you take. There is no strong indicator in long-term use however, that shows stimulants to be exceedingly dangerous or deadly in long-term therapeutic use cases which make of the majority of treated individuals with ADHD. In addition, to those with conditions like narcolepsy. If you have heart conditions or take other medications that may interfere with specific stimulants, you have to discuss that of course with your provider. It's all about circumstance, but the clinical literature that's widely available doesn't really point to the risk outweighing the benefits long-term in the vast majority of patients.

[@jontaylor5803]

As much as I like JP he clearly knows nothing about ADHD he would have more respect if he acknowledged this and allowed experts like Russell Barkley to explain.

[@willek1335]

I'm not sure what he got wrong here. Care to explain?

[@kexmex1237]

But he didn't give any advice on how to deal with it though

[@Jack-hy1zq]

the guy who asked the question about his ADHD must have felt completely forgotten about!!

[@laurenceegan6136]

I didn't think I had ADHD before watching / listening to this response, but I was beginning to feel like I had ADHD by the time it ended!

[@zenden6564]

@@laurenceegan6136 - yeah but conversely the guy with ADHD was sent well onto the road to recovery - that's why it's so tricky...so now you will have attend another JP presentation to shake it off.

[@laurenceegan6136]

@@zenden6564 Maybe that guy had been to a JP presentation prior to this one and that's how he developed it in the first place!

[@Jack-hy1zq]

@@laurenceegan6136 lol that's funny😂

[@Jack-hy1zq]

@@laurenceegan6136 that's even funnier😂

[@tbobtbob330]

I had severe ADHD as a child and dealt with the awful adult symptoms until my mid-40s (they were actually getting a little worse towards then). Four months after starting focus-based meditation (samatha), my symptoms were completely gone. Meditation seems to build whatever it is in the brain that causes ADHD when that part of the brain is underdeveloped. My life could have been far, far better had I found meditation when I was a child.

[@karamlevi]

Trey Elsey same here n martial arts n study style learning n self hypnosis n pulling off sugar n into Whole Foods eating n herbs...

[@karamlevi]

Do one video on it and share your story. Maybe it will spread maybe it won’t... make on video n share your good news.

[@niktak4658]

Same here!

[@Martin-ko1lk]

What would have been “better” in your life exactly?

[@Hy-Brasil]

@@jrmurphypoet I get the feeling Peterson knows quite a bit more about this subject than you could ever dream of. The people who are already afflicted with mental illness certainly do need help (they are out of control and actually killing people and themselves) what he trying to do is prevent the next generation from falling into that same pit..... LET boys be boys. stop forcing your retarded ideology on them and let them go outside and play. let the girls do the same if they wish. but also allow them their dolls and play houses and whatever it is they instinctively gravitate towards. the important message here is to LET THEM PLAY. it's a scientific fact that the most intelligent animals are ones who have played when they were young. play, explore, experiment etc. it's no wonder humanity is circling the bowl..... generations of kids locked up all day, forced to sit down, be quiet and pay attention.... it also makes sense why home schooled kids are far more productive compared to public schooled kids.

[@ronimation]

I’d love to see a discussion between Jordan Peterson and Daniel Amen. I’m sure they’d disagree on most things but I think it would be a great debate.

[@RavenVapor873]

Barkley has something to say about Peterson's comments on ADHD. I agree with him.

[@ovidiucostescu7543]

I don’t know why, Dr. Petrson, who I admire greatly, even though in some areas he is not specialized, he still has a strong definitive opinion. There are many studies on stimulants and the effects are beneficial on those diagnosed with ADHD, starting from better relationships, to the ability to improve in the school/woking environment, to longer lifespan. I would go listen to Dr. Russell Barkley or dr. William Dodson for real insights into ADHD.

[@k14pc]

yes there are benefits in the short term studies, the question is whether or not this persists into the long run. my understanding is that there are no ADHD medication studies spanning longer than 2 years, so it is difficult to know whether or not long term medication is net beneficial.

[@dswanny]

Because the man you admire is a contrarian who will not change his mind on anything once it has been set, no matter how wrong he ends up being.

[@sidewinder1639]

As a professional I see a lot off children with ADHD. We’re not easy in diagnosing or prescribing drugs. Golden rule is: you prescribe drugs only when not prescribing is worse. Children who cannot concentrate on any stuff in school, children who are avoided by other people because they are too impulsive. I don’t have an opinion on ADHD and I suggest other people stop having opinions on ADHD. I think Jordan ‘s answer avoids too much the real challenges children with adhd have.

[@_BMS_]

Asking others to not have an opinion on something is quite the Quixotic endeavor.

[@sidewinder1639]

@@_BMS_ True, I know you’re right, but sometimes I just want to try it

[@jennylynn9668]

Smart but scattered has helped me with my son. He takes a non stimulant that helps with attention. I may have adhd, never diagnosed. Found different ways of remembering things. My son does better when it is totally quiet. Last teacher would hold him back from recess if he didn't get his work done then I had to let her know he had an iep. The worst thing you can do is to take recess away if the kid is adhd.

[@whoisjohnwick]

what’s the non stimulant, how do they work?

[@wendysmith7458]

I'm a child of the 60's and as kids we were always active every chance we had and were given the opportunity to do so. I wonder if in this day and age we would be diagnosed with these conditions. We walked to and from school. We went to school early to play in the school grounds with our friends before classes began. We played actively during recess and lunch breaks. We also had teachers that arranged active sports during lunch breaks. We played outside after school until the street lights came on when we had to go home and have dinner. The best thing I think that was brought into my primary school was that the pupils were to run or walk, whichever they chose, around the school oval/field for around 10 mins in the morning before sitting at our desks in class. What this achieved was that our excess physical energy was burned up and when we sat in class we were focused and attentive to our studies. No wriggling in seats. No fidgeting. No pupils creating a disturbance in class. The school did not hold the pupils back from advancing their learning. In 1st year high school I felt that I had not learned anything new that I had not learned in 6th grade.

[@oslide]

He's right. I'm very ADHD but still responsible for my actions! Medication has helped me. Honestly. But if we do something stupid it IS OUR FAULT!

[@bravetherainbow]

You are also responsible to reshape the society around you so that it better accommodates your needs.

[@rofufoja]

@@bravetherainbow As far as I can see that was part of the comment. 'As long as you take responsibility, no matter what you do' is how I read it

[@captainm7722]

Not even close to being in the ballpark NEXT to the ballpark of being right.

[@AarmOZ84]

From a guy whose parents and school absolutely swore that there was something wrong with me and tried diagnosing me with everything from ADHD to OCD, I greatly appreciate this answer.

[@afit5341]

a preschool teacher once tried to say my 4 yr old nephew needed to be tested for ADHD or something like that. She was asked why she thought that and she said bc he didn't pay attention to her while she was speaking to the class. My brother asked his 4yr old if that was true and he said "Yes, dad she is boring and I already know what she is teaching the other kids" Maybe its not the kids, maybe its the lonely, arrogant teacher that doesn't know all kids are different and learn different and may have actually been taught things at home well before you get them at 4. She was told he knew his the whole alphabet, spelled his full name, address, phone number, colors (even colored-blind he got it right), was already reading words. Knew whole songs he could sing. Pretty sad that a 4 yr old was more well rounded and had higher intelligence than a grown ass woman

[@jzwalz51robin45]

An experienced teacher would organize the classroom into ability groups. Higher functioning students would have tasks that require more comprehension skills. Also, some students can do the assigned learning tasks several steps further. Most classes have students with varying abilities. I know this as a special education teacher, but newer well trained teachers are aware of this.

[@internetmail3888]

If you have ever met someone with severe ADHD you would not be in any doubt it is real. Severe cases are incapable of even having a two way conversation. It can be so extreme that communication becomes literally impossible.

[@tara34952]

ADHD is NOT more prevalent in boys. It is just as prevalent in girls yet it is more difficult to detect in girls. You don't have to be hyperactive to have 'ADHD': there's also a subcategory of it which is more attention deficit without the hyperactivity. This type is more prevalent in girls than boys though not exclusively so. Girls with this are more likely to be the quiet ones staring out of the window and struggling to concentrate on work and get assignments done. Many many people are only just getting diagnosed now as adults because their symptoms were not recognised during childhood because they didn't fit the stereotype... back then, 10, 20 or maybe 30 years ago the sterotype of ADHD was the kid who couldn't sit still and was disruptive in class, and it was thought it was pretty much only boys that had it. Neuroscientists knows so much more now than they did back then. I cannot claim to be a professor of psychology like Dr Peterson is; I'm just repeating here what I have learned in my own research since getting diagnosed one month ago (as an adult).

[@mookosh]

Concerta changed my life like glasses did. Glasses didn't fix my vision - it mitigated the harms of my bad vision. My drugs don't cure my ADHD - they help me control the symptoms so I can work around them. My illness is my illness and Dr. Peterson totally deflected from the reality of the existence of the illness. He definitely thinks it's overdiagnosed and definitely thinks drugs don't work... but what does? He never says. Emberassing. He gets sidetracked by his obsession with social justice and forgets to answer the question.

[@gun4hire685]

Well said.

[@julieemery2123]

I agree. Disappointing. I would argue that it’s under diagnosed in women and girls especially.

[@RayRay-zu4uz]

Im adhd and ya im all over the place. Climbing running. Lots of thoughts one after the other. I like it.

[@leekresser8384]

In school, a hypothetically certain solution is to put "ADHD" STUDENTS WITH "ADHD" teachers, and have slightly smaller classes. Teachers who have super conttol issues or have a perfectionist mindset should NOT have ADHD students in tbe class. And a rapidly thinking teacher will feel frustrated when students with an unlike mindset can't keep up.....

[@Gemisnotmyname]

the good thing about ADHD is that we are IDEA BANKS! I have ideas everyday..only issue is excecuting them...make them come alive...maybe we should create a company based on fullfilling and helpin each ADHD-er to make their ideas come alive.

[@MariusVorster]

I always thought I had ADHD but was only formally diagnosed in the last year (I am 38) I have a very demanding position requiring creative and critical thinking so was very relictive to take medicine but after some experiments I settled om Concerta. Too be clear I never thought of my ADHD as an disability, it helped me excel in complex and dynamic environments but was a pain in high school. I was functioning but my brain now is clearer, I can focus longer and I am more present when I am with my family. Anecdotally I can only say it has made a significant impact in my life so far. I can function without it but it feels like a 70% me. There are societal issues around school setup and energetic boys but at 38 can't help but feel I had to fight harder in my life than other people because I did not have medicine in the past.

[@johneaston6523]

Love this!!! Once treated and wrapped in skills development support we can thrive and thrilled that you are.

[@erikstone4263]

My son's ADHD wasn't diagnosed as a child . We dragged him through high school and once he got to college, he really struggled. Went to the Dr talking about anxiety and depression and came out with a prescription for Ritalin. MIRACLE DRUG.

[@ericadavenport2039]

Did you and his mom get tested? ADD is usually genetic.

[@melg1639]

I’m 33 just recently diagnosed with ADHD. The meds help a lot! What’s bizarre is how perfect Jordan described the personality attributes of ADHD. I did his personality test and I got just that. High openness, high neuroticism, low agreeableness and low conscientiousness. I’m trying hard to be more conscientious because it lowers neuroticism. I blame my parents, not enough rough and tumble play lol. But am I the only one that has interest in literally everything? I’ll ask this, how many hobbies do you have? I have 5 active hobbies. (Woodworking, fishing, spear fishing/ free diving, gold detecting, running a small backyard nursery)

[@lography6917]

Jordan appears to have some hesitance surrounding ADHD's existence, but this seems to be par for the course for people who do not actually suffer from it. My hyper focus can be seen as a super power in some respects. Some times I feel like a genius, and I certainly stick out from others, but far too often I feel autistic around others (and sometimes that everyone else is and I'm the only sane one). That is the social side though, the real battle is when you're alone in the office trying to get stuff done and the (constant) anxiety you don't even realize you have

[@Funt999]

Jordan "its very complicated" Peterson

[@CharlieHoliday369]

no name yeah lol right before HE makes it complicated

[@rianjohnsonscrackpipe3647]

Olivier because there is no set answer to the problem. One solution might work for one person, not everyone.

[@CL-xp4ee]

Well it is complicated. Can you explain it? Probably not that’s why you’re here.

[@AdamPopowski]

Piss off with that stupid meme. Go watch joe rogan videos.

[@starpathdivine9402]

Lol code for I'm talking out my a--- along with the cheesy melodramatic shtick, pause scratch head to appear highly intelligent - who falls for that? If you want to learn about ADHD check out Pete Quilly. Quilly gives people the tools to manage the illness and engage in healthy relationships with it.

[@Sethae]

I think I could get an ADHD-diagnose, if I went for it, but the thing is I hate diagnoses. I just feel physically ill when I have to concentrate on something that is tedious. And that's pretty much anything that is more complex and requires more study. It feels the same as the withdrawals when I quit smoking, so I guess it has something to do with dopamine. It's like I need to stop what I'm doing and get a fix - of something else. After that I just look at the text/screen, but my mind is already elsewhere. On the other hand I can watch dynamic charts moving for hours. I can watch a 3D-printer print. I can watch a slow download progressing the whole day. I can watch fire burning. Most people would become bored of those. Other thing is, when I get obsessed about something, I can't stop studying it. But I have no control over what it is.

[@jorisboulet3619]

Dont get the diagnose. ifso dont tell anyone. Its clear you know who/what you are to me. You figuerd it out by youre self , good job! The diagnose can haunt you for the rest of youre life. You just described me. Stuff that i dont care abouth 1.5 to 2.5 hrs focus max. You can ask me anything abouth space. completly self taught.

[@Limits6]

Yooo, I fully understand what you both are saying... I could in theory also look at stuff like this, but I feel as if time is too precious for doing certain things, I mean I only have one shot at this life and I don't want to look at loading screens haha. That said, I feel like studying at uni (philosophy) was one of the best and the worst choices I made. Best, because it gave me a voice to put my own experience into words and which made me feel more respected and better argue my own position in certain topics. And one of the worst because I can't study or force myself to memorize, it is so painful and every exam period I die on the inside, except for my degree I don't see the point. I will memorize what's important to me and what I don't care about, what isn't relevant in my life I will not notice or memorize maybe without understanding the value, I mean the entire idea behind an exam can be so forced and mechanical. I'm now in the process of stop counting on my degree as my 'way in' and see that I maybe must just pursue my own interests and intuitions and I feel that my productivity (even though not quantifiable or will be proven by a 'degree') will skyrocket. I'm interested in all fields of human knowledge, to me the world is some kind of mystery and when I get in my vibe (flow-state) it's like I get back on the mental/spiritual journey I've been on many times before and which I let guide me. Sometimes studying puts me there as well but the 'I have to memorize for the exam & degree' just outright angers me, it's backwards imo. Tbh I don't know why I wrote this, it's just I could really emphatize with what you said... What helped me a lot are is the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator to understand myself and that I shouldn't think I have some kind of disability, but that I have good reasons to be as I am and my mind works in a different way. Even though I must admit that I have a disability, my own negatives are my own positives... For example, I'm a ENFP-T according to the test, and my endless curiosity (i.e. strong intuition) guides me, makes me explorative open minded and 'smart', looking for answers. The problem is that once I have what I was looking for and the sense of wonder, that key I found in unravelling all my observations or proevious thoughts and my curiosity has been satiated I just need to move one to the next thing... This makes me uncommitted and unable to finish things or follow through. But as an apology I could say that what determines the start-finish isn't objectively determined (even though there's a norm), my intention isn't to finish something, but simply to acquire knowledge or develop a certain skill. I only care for 'external achievements/confirmation' because other people seem to value that, but the 'finish' line is like a normative and convention determined by others, and tbh I'm at a point in my life where I feel that my need for confirmation by others is just what's holding me and my self-realiation/potential back. Because, I can commit very seriously to things I've set my mind and heart to, I will always keep my promise or do all which is in my power. If you read it through, thank you and bless you. happy ny to you all!

[@jorisboulet3619]

@@Limits6 1) Thank you! 2) Now I have to look up: what are Myers-Briggs Type Indicators, thank you. 3) Quote: "I only care for 'external achievements/confirmation' because other people seem to value that." In my humble opinion: F#ck what other ppl value! I have a life/values/interests of my own. I try hard to not care, wich isnt always easy. Maybe not the smartest move ether, as we live in a society. I enjoyed the read/interaction Joris

[@spartanstunting5247]

They will give you amphetamines and that will definitely not help your dopamine sober at least Meditate workout be a carnivore read books don't eat any sugar or carbs that's how you regrow your brain and cure adhd

[@Sethae]

@@Limits6 I got INTP, but I don't think it's fully accurate either and can be a prison too, if you believe it.

[@karamlevi]

I use meditation n martial arts tools n self hypnosis and now have more clarity n self control than people without it.

[@Tm-gs1xk]

Teach people to relax be alone away from stressful environments.

[@laura8512]

Dr. Peterson very well explains his stand with clear reason. Whether I agree with all that he states about ADHD or not he certainly puts all his reasoning and facts out that make sense.

[@CharlieHoliday369]

Laura Schneer bullocks he’s got verbal diarrhea If only geniuses and great artist were alive today and I can do to change anything because it will be on some kind of psychiatric drug to make then ‘normal’ ( ie: Good little compliant follow the rules consumers )

[@alexcipriani6003]

he does not!!!! he sounds like the Bible by that I mean he doesn't make any sense me and a lot of other people don't reach the same conclusions as he does from his stories

[@rianjohnsonscrackpipe3647]

Ciprian Alexandru then perhaps you need to do a little research

[@cameronluney5409]

Because someone doesnt make sense to you doesn't tarnish the validity of his comments. He even states hes probably not the best person to ask in regards to ADHD. He gave his opinion on it, as he was asked to give it.

[@alicusack2967]

This man.. the more I listen to him, the more flawed his arguments are . Seriously??? You really think we belief your drivel

[@mymotosai5036]

There wasn't any advice for the student?

[@Cashifyer]

That's what happens when you ask 67 questions. Pick one or two, tops

[@mairuzo]

Cashifyer He did ask 2 questions. He spent some time explaining the background of his questions and then reiterated them before Jordan answered: “do you think ADHD is overdiagnosed” and “for those who might have it, how would you recommend they cope with it.”

[@joelhall5124]

Great video. Liked and subbed

[@anyoneanyone28]

Jordan commits a basic correlation-causation error here. He suggests that some people diagnosed with ADHD simply have certain personality traits, rather than actually having ADHD. However, he overlooks the possibility that these traits could be symptoms of ADHD itself.

[@XiprofteQC]

Peterson is wrong. There is a lot of stigma around ADHD, especially among people that aren't neuropsychologists, and especially considering that most of our understanding of the condition has been established in the past 10 years. ADHD is not a cognitive impairment, and medication doesn't try to fix a cognitive issue. It's an executive and inhibitive dysfunction problem, which are underlying cerebral functions that affects the ability to regulate sensory, cognitive and emotional input (which results, among other very important things, in inattention). It affects the dopamine system and working memory in a way that prevents you from anticipating your actions in an efficient manner and leads to having a very present centric life (which is a disaster if you live in an organized civilisation). The idea that it only affects the prefrontal cortex is wrong, a lot of research shows that half of the brain is impaired by connection issues in the brain. And most importantly, it is NOT a temperamental distinction. It is a neurological structure difference that is the result of a GENETIC MUTATION (we know exactly what genes predict ADHD), that is, evolutionary speaking, the result of an ability for people to thrive better in dangerous environments exactly because of their brain's inability to dismiss sensory inputs and their quick impulses to react. ADHD is not over-diagnosed, it is UNDER-diagnosed, and should be medicated WHEN ADEQUATE, with better treatment than what we usually offer today, and complementary to actual coaching or therapy. Jordan Peterson is a brilliant psychologist, but you should NOT listen to his advice on ADHD, because it stems from a long lasting tradition among psychologist to diminish the severity of a very serious condition, due to the absurdly primitive practices surrounding its diagnosis and treatment, condition that can be extremely detrimental to the lives of millions of people. Jordan Peterson is NOT qualified to talk about ADHD. If you think you have ADHD, I highly recommend that you research Russell Barkley's work on the subject (and his lectures) or even better, that you make an appointment with a certified neuropsychologist that specializes in ADHD. And most importantly, don't listen to anyone that will tell you that ADHD isn't serious and that you're a fool for thinking that you suffer from it.

[@RavenVapor873]

I completely agree with your assessment! I'm only here to listen to him myself so I can make my own decision based on what he did say about ADHD. Does he honestly believe that it only appears in boys? I'm 69 and I was recently diagnosed with ADHD and OCD. I could've gone my entire life without knowing why I am the way I am. Most of it is very negative. I have much to unlearn and then learn new ways that I can understand. None of this is easy. I don't need someone trying to take ADHD back 50 yrs. I've never connected with anything like this. It has explained so much. It's just the beginning for me.

[@barrygeeful]

I was an amanuensis and support worker at University for many years. In the beginning I worked with severely physically handicapped people and felt really needed and appreciated. It was a pleasure to help them. Ten years later I had students who 'suffered' from mild dyslexia and similar conditions. Maybe it was the perks that came with being diagnosed as disadvantaged such as a free laptop, extra time and a private room during examinations and a flexible hand-in date for assignments that caused the number of students needing help to soar. Or am I just being sceptical.

[@Gruuvin1]

I really like the JBP videos with the all black background. Looks great on an OLED display.

[@soulbro55]

he didn't answer anything or address anything that was asked of him, he immediately changed topic to universities being evil.

[@fickalinga]

I'm introverted, reserved and a little anti social with ADHD. Never used any medication for it, but did spend most my time out in the world exploring and quenching my thirst for knowledge. I can see a clear difference in myself and other I know who were pumped up with ritalin at a young age. They are having much more problems dealing with everyday life, and it's not like it's easy for me (compulsive, completely unable to focus if I'm not interested in the subject and lose interest if not stimulated enough).

[@krippyking2331]

Do you take medication for the ADHD or chosen to battle it through habits?

[@CrazedTacoEater852]

How do we discern this from personality differences as opposed to a disorder? Everyone has their vices, and not all of them are disorders.

[@tesskennedy4959]

I’m a psychotherapist of 25 years; I very much agree that ADHD is over diagnosed. Working with children and parents I found that often there was a historical history of trauma. Therefore, the brain was on alert and the child in a dysregulated state of hyper vigilance. The amygdala, an a ne naw fire engine state and the child or adult awash with stress chemicals. Coming with a more trauma neuroscientist informed modality often shifted the child’s presenting behaviours. A bottom up approach.

[@Vardar-cj4xn]

In many cases it's a combination of the desire to have something to blame (from the client part) and the "professional" ego of knowing so much that you can label and fix reality

[@Laura-tp8wz]

Wow glad I found this! Thanks

[@ejp246]

I have ADHD and this is how anybody can tell if they have it or not. Try your 100% best to do everything without medication, and then try to do your 100% best with medication. If you’re able to do 10x more with medication (like I am), then you have it. Now you know.

[@TheSinlessAssassin]

I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was 16 and tried to live as if I didn't have it. I just had to have better will power and stop being lazy, they only diagnosed me to try and feed me drugs etc. These and many other lies, I tried to believe was I've gone on with my life trying to ignore my mental illness. I am now 34 and going to therapy FOR my ADHD thanks to having met another ADHDer who mirrored a lot of my own issues. I am only now learning just how much ADHD HAS been affecting my personal and professional life throughout my adulthood. I'm a person who likes to take personal responsibility for my shortcomings and mistakes, but it is becoming more and more apparent how a lot of the things I've tried to take ownership for actually are NOT my fault, rather it's my untrained brain...

[@TruthDissident]

This is very common with people that have ADHD. It's like playing life on hard mode at times.

[@Emma310]

Also a course via Ed X. Julia Rucklidge

[@progamerzach1]

It's sad that mental disabilities are either over-diagnosed or under-diagnosed. It's much easier to diagnose or self-diagnose physical disabilities but mental ones can take a long time if ever to properly diagnose.

[@samurilip]

I would Love to hear his Advice on Someone with Attention Deficit disorder.

[@user-dq5wh1lj7r]

I was never diagnosed. My dad was never diagnosed. He drank coffee constantly which was super strong. I didnt do well in school until I started drinking coffee. In 1966. I still subsist on coffee. I have osteoporosis now and take Fosamax. I'm supposed to cut down on coffee, because it makes osteoporosis worse. I'm trying. I live on a 20 acre farm and spend most of my time outdoors. my children and grandchildren worry. My daughter once said "people who think having a child with ADHD is tough have no idea what it's like to grow up with a parent who has it." But nobody understands what it is like except those of us who have it.

[@zachschroeder1740]

I believe that Jordan Peterson has ADHD and he can’t admit that to himself. Pay attention to how good he is with abstract logic. That’s no accident, coming from someone that will admit to narcissistic tendencies.

[@drummerboy737]

Adhd has been observed in cases of hypometabolism of the cortexes. A low rate limiting of metabolic function that exhausts the tissues and doesn't allow them to function can typically result in increased distractability and lower concentrative power. The chemical which chiefly increases the rate of oxygen consumption in the cortex is trithioidonine (t3) that works to metabolise glucose into atp. Many substances can block metabolic function as well as create intestinal irritability lowering the rate of nutrient absorption. Many substances used to increase cellular respiration will bolster the function of the brain such as creatine/thyroid/androgens/ niacinamide etc alongside proper nutrition. High rates of stimulation can exhaust the organ and sometimes they function better under reduced stimulation such as at night or under sedatives. Increasing the metabolism gently helps to preserve brain function and avoiding diets that prevent lowered metabolism will in turn reduce cognitive resilience. Sleep, nutrition and condition of the thyroid are important.

[@peps7721]

What diets are recommended?

[@drummerboy737]

@@peps7721 I think Dr. Ray Peat has the best or most direct answers to those questions and he has alot of public articles that can be found as well as books An incomplete answer would look like: diets that avoid the polyunsaturates as much as possible (below 2-3 grams a day is metabolically clearable) Diets that avoid a mojority of any substances which irritate either the liver or the intestine which work in conjunction to produce metabolic nutrients as well as energetic factors such as t3. Protein of at least 100 grams a day if possible from non allergenic sources and ideally away from commercial feeds. Ruminant meats. Starches at a low rate are tenable if you already have good digestion but in general feed intesitinal complications. Sources of calcium which enable the higher rate of metabolism that is observable im indegenous people at an rda of 2-3x. Sunlight consistent throughout the day but breif enough to avoid radiation which damages metabolism and nutritionally dense fruits that are on the fructose side if possible. Coffee at liberty if the liver is strong and does not produce the stress reaction, sucrose and in addition to food can slow the release of caffiene which potentiates the cells to create energy. Engaging the mind and senses with engaging activities like scenic walking or adventuring is a more direct way to change the metabolism towards a dopaminergic hormonal profile instead of the adrenaline/cortisol of hypometabolism.

[@sl5311]

Do the diet but get on meds

[@drummerboy737]

www.nature.com/articles/nature05991 www.empr.com/news/certain-antidepressants-may-up-risk-of-intracranial-hemorrhage/article/577051/

[@pazgabriel]

My God.. That one hit me like a rock

[@JensDean23]

I can only talk about myself. I´m 42 nu. I´ve worked (tried) since i was 18. I have only been able to be on a workplace for max 6 months. Then the brainghosts starts. (long story, not important here). I´ve tried to get help. I´ve tried to tough it up, but then the anxiety comes to the part that i selfharm. Cut to now. I finally got my ADHD diagnosis, tried my medicin yesterday and i´ve wanted to weep since then. I can finally focus on my son and not think about everything else that pops up and more or less get annoyed at everything he does. Now i can sit for hours and just BE. That doesn´t mean that i dont get angry, happy, sad.. i still do. It´s just that now i can harness thoughts into something productive. What i mean, is i had a serious problem which needed to be adressed. That someone is a bit unruly in school, or perhaps bored with easy subjects doesn´t mean that they have a attention disorder and need medication. You need to draw the line with whats a disability, and whats not. I have one, a "school tired" boy might now have.

[@andi8717]

JP doesnt actually believe its real. Ive seen enough of his vids on it. He also cites outdated facts like its more prevalent in boys and its overdiagnosed etc. He also hyperfocuses on college students instead of broad spectrum of those that have it. For the record, raised awareness will increase the rate of diagnosis. Youd think his trusty science would make that common sense. Its just one person's opinion and not an opinion that matters on the topic. So his approval isnt needed.

[@marknalberta]

And a diagnosis will raise the chances of using it as an excuse and being even more lazy at work.

[@juliavoortman6496]

The one place I have to seriously disagree with Dr. Peterson. He gives the list of personality traits from the big 5 that he says would predict ADHD-like behaviour and I'm on the extreme opposite end for 2 of the 5 he lists (very introverted, very agreeable). ADHD is the only label that's helped me make sense of my symptoms and life so far, and medication for it has been the only thing to help me. Not therapy, not willpower, not self-education. "Very smart but lazy" is something I've heard all my life, "not living up to your potential". I hated myself for so long not being able to overcome the steel walls in my head around starting things, finishing things, focusing, organising myself, listening to people without zoning out, etc. Would suggest he reads You, Me or Adult ADD.

[@mikelpradet6670]

Same for me i'm more agreeable / introvert. As much as i enjoy JP's takes sometimes, it's way better to listen to Gabor Maté on Adhd

[@7ajhubbell]

Thank you.

[@jayreinke7782]

How does Jordan Peterson always manage to cite facts in a way that blows the lid off of our assumed and presumed knowledge? I am so grateful that he doesn't reinforce our prejudices, but forces us to reconsider our categories of thinking. He doesn't smash boys into the categories our education system wants to use to label and disable them. He doesn't answer the question precisely because he is disassembling the assumptions that generate the question. I love this guy.

[@rosskious7084]

You have to be careful. I am learning disabled , yet have an extremely High IQ . They tested me in my ability to take in information and in some of the areas I scored in the bottom 5 % . I could only learn stuff if I was extremely interested in it and then only for a small period ( except on the occasions that I was able to hyper focus) . WAY before I went to school ADHD caused massive issues for me ( losing everything under the sun) . Could not set still at all and focusing was a joke. Last year ( at 53 years old) I started on Aderall, and I went from losing/misplacing everything ( 20 to 35 items a day that I had to search for) to losing/misplacing maybe one or two items a week. I can complete task on a regular bases, read stuff that I find boring, actually learn the complete material I am studying instead of what my mind finds interesting. Sorry for the writing, my dysgraphia made me hate writing as a kid and never wrote more than a sentence unless I had to. ADHD is a real thing and for some people a little pharmacotherapy will be life altering and world changing. If I had Aderall when I was younger, several job losses would not have happened and my life would have been massively less frustrating. Btw, my mother would not let me be medicated as a kid and by the time I was a adult I was use to being dysfunctional. Jordan Peterson is one of the people I respect, but I don’t totally agree with him on this issue.

[@nachobed]

The ideas the public has about adhd is very misleading and potentially harmful to anyone who is undiagnosed. Medication is prescribed to act as a tool in tandem with things like life coaching and books to help aid in building the mental support to function at a "normal" level, and to eventually be able to live life without the use of medications. A large misunderstanding of adhd is that's an Attention deficit disorder when it is actually and executive function disorder. To which researchers are advocating the name be changed to. when being diagnosed (imo adult diagnoses is most accurate) family members, friends, employers and, more so than the others teachers and report cards will be questioned in order to have a proper assessment. Adhd affects all aspects of life, not just school and work.

[@shawnnaidu2431]

I’ve been diagnosed with ADHD when I was 10 years old and the crazy thing is that I didn’t know until this year my doctor told me that I had ADHD and at first I didn’t know what the hell ADHD was but after I was doing my own research I realized that even though ADHD is a serious illness however there is hope. I know I wrote a long ass sentence because I believe in God all the time and to be honest I don’t care if I was diagnosed with ADHD I’m not gonna let that shit stop me from being the best so I end this speech for anyone out there who’s been diagnosed with ADHD, Learning Disability whatever you’re problem is GO SEEK HELP trust me keeping that shit deep down it ain’t worth it and never be afraid to speak up I hope what I said to you guys it inspired you to overcome any obstacles and always striving for GREATNESS! 🙏🏾

[@mattcody4933]

It's nice to hear a view that isn't passionate, but realistic.

[@PI4YOU]

ADHD is real. Tech Tacho points out he teaches his child to focus on details in part to compensate. I find that interesting because in addition to being ADHD, I am also Face Blind (Prosopagnosia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosopagnosia ). As a consequence, I am worse than just bad with faces, names & details of individuals. I was also diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome, being described as high functioning. I ask myself, how I functioned through my life and into retirement without any diagnosis. My first thought is disabilities do not take away 100% of function, rather, some percentage of an unknown amount. Life has not been easy by any means. Three marriages, more jobs than might be imaginable & in the end a social recluse. As a child, I was hyperactive child and discipline wasn't of the nourishing kind, it was critical controlling kind. When registering for high school, my course of study was selected by my mother and I had no opportunity to have input. I rebelled but still managed to graduate high school 435/450 students. High school was mostly about trying to chose my path in life. I rebelled against my parents choice, which in the end would have been better than mine. I chose a path where my likes, dislikes mostly matched others in the same profession, Police Science. I left college 12 credits short of a BS DEGREE and instead got married, became a police officer and had a baby at 21 years old. I failed as a police officer two times, my marriage ended and I was a mess and didn't know why. I attended personal growth and self development training and it taught me responsibility and gave me the beliefs I needed to succeed in life, and while I was still different than others I believed it was okay.sort of. My career stabilized around age 31 when I became an insurance investigator and moved out of state, away from my overbearing mother. While snow skiing with wife #2, I injured my knee and it was diagnosed as a sprain. The injury was not a sprain, I had torn the cartilage from the end of my femur and walking on it destroyed the joint. After my 1st surgery while in recovery, the doctor told me I needed a joint replacement, he then said I was too young (38), so I had to live with the pain . I qualified for social security disability and could have lived on that for the rest of my life. The first retroactive disability payment was received at the same time I was learning to walk after receiving a cadaver transplant. I used that to help start my first business. The transplant failed after 8 years and I then experienced a series of failed procedures. I continued working, bought a house and started a Gourmet Coffee Shop with my 3rd wife that was sold after 7 years. Retirement came in 2009 after the economy went into a recession. After learning of the diagnosis and reviewing my life, I feel both pride and shame. I am proud that I was able to use my education and succeed on the career side of my life. The social side of my life however, I think is a disaster. I feel if I had known what my challenges were, I could have exercised some control and behaved differently, as I do now. I think the Face Blindness is the aspect that most affects my life. When I was 12 I told my Mom, I knew I was different from other kids and I wanted to see a psychiatrist. She refused telling me only crazy people go to a psychiatrist. Months prior to her death, she told me she didn't like me. I ask in closing, if you don't know you are handicapped, are you? What I lost in life are relationships and feeling a part of my community. Wife #3 must be an angel sent to protect me.

[@tara34952]

Thankyou for sharing your really interesting story. I enjoyed reading it. You've clearly had a very interesting, varied and colourful life! I'm deeply sorry about what your mother said to you. But I'm happy you've found happiness with your 3rd wife. You sound very philosophical about life.

[@freddyfriesen]

I taught school for forty years. Amazing how each student is different. If you capitalize on each one's giftedness, it is amazing how "disabilities" seem to disappear.

[@pauljames1807]

It's easy to dismiss as a quirk when you're not the one suffering from it.

[@freddyfriesen]

@@pauljames1807 Sorry you did not understand my comment. Each and every one of us possesses a different mix of abilities and lack thereof. Schools are set up to measure and label according to a very limited set of "standards" to produce a limited number of winners and a vast majority of losers. During my forty years of teaching I tried to treat each student according to their own mix of gifts or abilities. It would almost be impossible now due to many factors. Sounds like you may have been a victim of the labelling game. Sorry Each of us are special and gifted, just differently.

[@pauljames1807]

@@freddyfriesen I agree with you and your efforts to adapt your teaching methods to different students is admirable. However, it's a common misconception that ADHD is only an issue in education. ADHD affects almost every aspect of a sufferers life. Time management, organisational skills, self-discipline. These are all traits that are important to almost all endeavours and these are traits that people with ADHD lack.

[@freddyfriesen]

@@pauljames1807 I was greatly surprized to discover that some of my high school students were in the special ed system. I had assumed that they were gifted. They had learned to adapt far beyond their diagnosis delivered on them in primary school. ADHD is highly over diagnosed. Besides, many true ADHD folks have learned to turn their disability into an advantage by applying their gifts where they are really useful. OK. yes some issues are truly stunting, like my heart now which is still very iffy. At least my pacemaker keeps me alive . . . if I behave.

[@spidderspider71]

This man knows a few things!

[@hoodoohullabaloo2848]

Neuropsychologists say otherwise, it is a brain disorder and should be taken completely serious. These mostly smart individuals dont choose to ruin their lives an potential and most importantly they mostly cant get over it without equalizing the chemical inbalance in their brains. It is awesome if it works without Medication, but severe cases are almost impossible to improve without. And the stigma on top like that is just so unfair. Its like Depression. All Neuro physicians say it is a serious disorder that can be proven chemically! Still many people with depression get treated like they have a cold and should get their shit together.

[@rebbeshort]

Jordan switched topics so often during this short answer that I suspect he has ADD.

[@tomcat1020]

Reb Short that was super funny breh!

[@finding_aether]

😝😝😝

[@cboobsbaby]

It’s funny, no doubt.... but it also really could be the intellectualisations of a very intelligent man in denial of his own issue.

[@moreiscomingeasy6710]

Although it's funny, I absolutely don't agree. He is going around to give full answer from all angles. As one that is diagnosed with add, I need this kind of answers to fully understand, without having to fill in the gaps

[@arktana]

i love jordan, but he didn't give an advice on ADHD to this guy or anyone else on youtube. i think he doesnt understand how adhd can be severe and destroy people's lives (and i am talking about severe cases, not the over diagnose- which i am sure exist). to just say well tough for you- we should not impact the outcome in anyway- well, isn't always the right thing to do. cuz if a person HAS high abilities (for example), but cant make the best of them due to adhd- its a lose both for him and for society. also, if you leave it in the hands of professors- you should count on luck that you have a great open professor? that's not a good solution.

[@silviachamlee7425]

arktana Highly over diagnosed . Over medicated . And he is accurate .

[@DanHale13]

You should listen again. He was giving the guy questions to ask himself. Psychological help isn't a honeydoo list. You have to reach it on your own or it's worthless.

[@MsElke11]

3 of my kids are on it because it's the easiest solution for parents teachers and doctors....but ultimately won't these meds hurt my kids' health?

[@silviachamlee7425]

Elke Summer From what I understand , you can place children on it for a time and then withdraw it so they have a chance to learn what calm feels like . Ultimately , clinical labs show that the medication for ADHD does tend to have higher rates of liver cancer when they become adults . And as he said it is harmful , I would have to read to remind self . My recommendation is read everything , everyone . Diet and cutting out any junk food really does make a difference . When I say cut out , I mean really rigid and discipline about sugar and dyes, and crappy carb food ; ie: chips .

[@rianjohnsonscrackpipe3647]

Elke Summer yeah that shit is bad for your kids. I adopted 3 kids and they were walking zombies when they were on it. After further research I discovered that they had a great risk of developing liver disorders. It may sound weird but coffee can settle down a kid with ADHD.

[@Feirin332]

I wonder what he would say about Asperger kids with demand avoidance. I imagine he probably doesn't trust in the existence of PDA, but as a mom who has been dealing with that profile for the 5.5 years of my young son's life, I can tell you that every attempt, no matter how loving or subtle, at forcing my will or ideas onto my son, leads to immense anxiety for him, breakdown in trust, meltdowns and even trauma (for both of us). Dr Peterson says don't raise your child in a way that will socially isolate them from their peers or in a way that will make you dislike them, but with kids like this there is no choice in the matter. It is really, really hard. Despite being extremely bright he cannot go to school or be taught in any kind of traditional way. He will only learn what he decides to learn and there is pretty much nothing we as parents can do about it.

[@madstrad123]

The topic is on ADHD. How can you wonder or assume on different conditions?

[@ja-qk4vd]

He mentions autism esp impressed with that girl who designed the cattle processing thing.

[@yakinimoseley6792]

2015 Personality Lecture 08: Depth Psychology: Sigmund Freud (Part 1) 25:15 he answered his views on ADHD. The response to ADHD from him and from all mental health providers is to practice organization, time management and planning skills. So he says “Make a damn schedule.”

[@yakinimoseley6792]

ADHD wouldn’t exist without the cultural influence to have children sitting in a class and focusing on a bell. A child needs play, and the school culture crushed that. Again I referenced where Peterson talked about it. Also on stimulants not really solving the question.

[@empemitheos]

It's adaptive, in some people, if you sense your life needs improvement, your exploratory instincts go into overdrive to find a solution at random to the problems that aren't being solved by your normal routine

[@catapult-lounge]

I would respect him more if he simply said "I don't know, this is NOT my area of expertise." This is faulty. This is dangerous... he's simply flailing... And Dead Wrong

[@chriskleinbach-vd5ch]

ADHD has ruined my life I've done hard labor ruined my body now I am in my 40s and I can't even get a doctor to give me medication to let me live a normal calm non impulsive life. 😥.

[@ericadavenport2039]

Keep trying new doctors. Get an EEG scan of your brain.

[@CompactCognition]

Being an RCUAI is probably why I didn’t fathom the possibility of having ADHD until I was 27, got diagnosed at 27

[@pretty_d00med]

He literally described my big 5 yikes.

[@nickduffy8919]

Same

[@nerrdinho]

Dig the green

[@work4dough]

Aside from all the serious argumentative comments and this video, I wanted to share a quick personal story. I have severe ADHD, and had a family get together a few days ago. As I was talking to everyone about something, which btw was drawn out 😂. But in the middle of my rambling, I noticed a squirrel was crossing the road, and without missing a beat I instinctively said, "look a squirrel", and then went right back to what I was talking about, which my daughter then replied, "really dad?" Talk about instant embarrassment 🤪

[@tara34952]

For me that's completely normal. Is that not normal?

[@work4dough]

@@tara34952 that's the first time an actual squirrel popped up during my rambling and I literally pointed it out in midstride and continued on like nothing happened.

[@Sohailmusic]

My adhd is so bad I zoned out and fell asleep

[@sirquan22d]

I never would’ve become what i have and the level “ADHD” just learning and multi-tasking with many levels and details… when focused it’s very productive and creative… it’s a blessing without medication, would’ve eliminated all my abilities!!

[@psl127]

Dr would be a great minister of education