Jordan Peterson | Social Isolation Leads to Insanity and Then Death

[@Samhain606]

For about 3 years I've been divorced, no friends real or online. A few people are supportive at first but they get sick of hearing from you. I don't know if life will be shorter or not but at 48 years old there's no easy way to start over, and if it stays like this then who cares if it's shorter or not. The hardest thing is seeing so many other people not having this problem.

[@leonmrrs]

Sorry to hear that

[@Ready4Whatever]

Try being 22 going through this

[@bunsenn5064]

That’s the thing. The only people you see are the ones who don’t have this problem. The ones you don’t see suffer in silence, and there are many in the same situation as you, even if they’re not in plain sight.

[@beatanowak3679]

I was isolated from my only child my ex husband took him away lived in a foreign country no one helped me I was and I am so depressed and suicidal and even the therapist doesn't know how to help me

[@skanderbeg1781]

Its becoming the norm Pal. Just look at edits. Its on fire nowadays

[@TheOriginalEUrban]

Being around people is leading me towards insanity and death. I will die of suppressed rage at the folly of fellow persons.

[@juliatoussaint9700]

So you're a sociopath, and you don't take part as a functional member of society, if you have the impression that people are driving you to insanity you should go to therapy as quickly as possible because that's not ok

[@Amxr555]

@@juliatoussaint9700 no it isn’t he is just saying some ppl are annoying maybe he is around some toxic people who drive him crazy and he keeps pretending like he isn’t annoyed which is driving him crazy

[@Amxr555]

@@juliatoussaint9700 no it isn’t he is just saying some ppl are annoying maybe he is around some toxic people who drive him crazy and he keeps pretending like he isn’t annoyed which is driving him crazy

[@brotatoofdestiny9932]

@@juliatoussaint9700 The people of any society are formed through indirect means - education, social exchange between individuals and groups, enforcement of law. Most modern societies trust their members to indirectly influence and raise other members of their society, in a manner that is largely undirected. For any person who has been failed by the indirect methods imposed on them by other people, that person must direct themselves to address the problems within themselves. The problem within the 'sociopath' is indirectly influenced by the undirected masses around them - yet it is somehow their own problem to bear. For your argument to remain sound, a sociopath must be entirely self made. Perhaps their experience with other members of their society has persuaded them to rationalise such a state of disillusionment - can you say this is never the case? A society that declares itself to be without illness is not necessarily the same as a healthy society. Is your 'sociopath' the singular bane of your society, or one of the few among the many who stand on their own in spite of the masses standing against them?

[@chasny4588]

if being around people enrages you, causes you to supress it, you're being isolated then, it's still the same. Being around people=/=connection.

[@NickRyanBayon]

I've been socially islolated after I escaped the rat race for about 7 months, no social contact. Now i'm realizing this is actually dangerous.

[@BunnyCentauri]

@Matro25 Did you make a change?

[@AlphaCrucis]

Curious to know in what ways you've experienced this being dangerous. I am extremely introverted based on the big 5 personality tests and have been planning to move away from the noise of society as soon as I can afford to do so indefinitely, but wonder about what the side effects might be. I don't plan to be socially isolated 100%, but will rely on the internet and occasionally have to go buy groceries and such.

[@AlphaCrucis]

@Matro25 Similar to me, though I am in regular contact with my family, even if I don't talk to them much or spend much time with them. Outside of work, I don't have a social life, but I also don't desire one since I am exhausted having to be around all of those people already.

[@richardwilliams9181]

@@AlphaCrucis In my experience of being isolated on my own free will for the first 4 years. Then the last 2 years were a forced isolation. And it quite literally will drive you to insanity. It was the forced isolation that really takes your mind to places you never knew or wanted to go. Isolation is good in moderation, to reset your emotional clock. But when it's prolonged, it gets pretty bad. I've had access to internet and social media and all that. But it's fake interactions. There is no replacement for real physical interactions on the impact of your psyche. I know this because I've been living it. Now I've changed in a way I don't like. And it will take a long time to get back to where I was. So, if isolation is what you're looking for. Do so at your own risk. I've been isolating pretty much my whole adult life, so I guess I'm kind of a pro. And believe me. It doesn't get better with time

[@HospitalForSouls.X]

I've been totally isolated for almost a decade now. No contact with family, no friends, no lovers, not even intimacy. I have lost my mind...it's gone. I have no ability to socialize, no motivation to do anything and just this constant rage and sadness. It feels like a dagger in my chest 24/7. All I think about is ending my life and I've even started setting fires around town. I just don't care anymore. If you're isolating right now...please stop. Just stop. You do NOT want to be here, in purgatory

[@blankblankity451]

Its been almost 3 years since I got into online school. Because of that I haven't met or talked with anyone besides my family. I honestly cant believe its been so long.

[@wiwisjxkalnz]

dude i have been like this since i was born literally, i barely leave the house even tho having 1 friend, ig im just depressed i always find excuses to go out idk if thats your case, maybe you are depressed

[@usel7226]

I live with mom and her bf who both hate me. We don't talk and I spend most of the day home alone. I also don't go to school and my friends completely ditched me. I haven't talked out long for more than 2 minutes for months. I hate this life

[@amjednasser4746]

You’re not alone bro.

[@Marfmellow88]

What city do you live in?

[@1v1_Perry]

Hope things going better ❤️

[@ValouQc]

Keep listening to this guy.

[@gdust6579]

i had the same issues as a teen. no friends in school. other kids avoiding me. i was bullied badly at university. so now im 33 and spend so much time alone it drives me crazy. then the only friend ive had was a 85 yr old pervert who was taking advantage of me. i had a meltdown for days the other day. im mad at my parents for moving to a place where theres no young people or people my age. even tho i should be living on my own. i cant because i know i will be alone and have no friends to invite over. normal people my age avoid me and predatory older men pick on me. at least youre probly a teen ager you got time to make it right. im running out of time

[@thebullet8078]

I mainly just have the understanding that life is much to short for other people to really care about my existence.

[@for281]

Nailed it

[@wewereneversane9833]

My respect for humans was on a thread before the pandemic. Nowadays I only socialise to do what I need to.... I have no more respect for this species. Insanity and death are preferably alternatives to living among humans.

[@33ShotsCuzFightsDontMatter]

Beautiful.. I agree.

[@haizekhaze8868]

Understood completely.

[@DeadpoolX9]

We should be friends

[@northstar92]

Contemptible. Get ready for the whole world to reflect your hatred 10x back onto you

[@Drewski96-wz7zv]

​​@@northstar928==D 😢 Sheep

[@ghostnotes5667]

What about introverts? I could care less about social situations and prefer isolation. My tolerance for putting up with people is at an all time low. I’m not depressed and I’m in good health. Not everyone crumbles in isolation.

[@peachie5026]

Let me tell you I am an HSP and yes i was not deppressed and anxiety before but since 2020 i started getting it. Isolation is nice at first but the longer you inside ITS becoming like self sabotage. Its kills your self confidence because people are having negative judgement about you as fragile mentality and that is not allright. We are bloody social i can tell

[@jayslungsbloodclot2733]

Everyone is different, don't listen to this demagogue

[@ggaz683]

Really? So you have totally zero interaction with anyone at all? Because if not then you're not going through real social isolation. That's what I went through for 8 years from 14 to 22. I get extremely anxious even saying a word to my family. I have zero friends online and cant even ask a doctor for help because of extremely severe social anxiety due to social isolation. I am living in hell.

[@Adeyum64]

Introvert ≠ Isolation Just saying... Like the person over me said, you probably never had true isolation. And no, being home and scrolling through social media (yes even youtube comments) does not count, because you're still socializing over the web. Delete those apps for a month, that's what I did. *Then* you'll feel true isolation

[@dominusbalial835]

@@ggaz683 Honestly if you're not in fucking Canada you should seek out mental health resources because they'll probably actually attempt to help you. I was a feral child up until the age of 16 roughly, although not really. My mother suffered from some really weird psychosis mixed with rage mixed with maternal loving instincts. So she'd do shit like lock me in my room 22 hours a day only letting me out to eat or bath or go to school or daycare. When I started growing moustache hairs she didn't want me to shave because i'd scratch my lip, after a few years I eventually rebelled which I never did because I wasn't allowed too. My punishment for shaving which she didn't want me to do because i'd hurt myself was to beat the absolute fucking shit out of me slap me punch me throw me to the floor kick me stomp on me. Sometimes she'd let me go outside by myself for days a a time without a fucking care. And then other times she'd let me go outside and then call whoever's house I was staying at a hour after I left screaming about how I was grounded for staying out for too long. She was fucking cooked there was no structure in the house at all everything that one could be judged on changed at random. she used to stalk me in middle school and high school. One time she physically assaulted me for using the word "They" correctly in a sentence. she screamed at me saying that i was making up words and speaking like a petulant baby. She would only let me vacuum the floor, brush my teeth and bath myself. I wasn't allowed to cook food and went days without food often. wasn't really zero social interaction but it was extrodinarily limted. I didn't know how to speak english when I got into school and had to learn how to speak there.

[@trailer.prince]

i've literally not left my house in 3 years since suffering a sudden death following several. i leave each 3 months for my dr appts for medication that's it. all my real life friends have passed. i don't have anyone. im only 31. my life is completely destroyed from severe isolation all these years 😂

[@theoneeyerx2568]

Be strong, brother.

[@theoneeyerx2568]

And try signing up for sport clubs

[@reasonablyserious]

The problem with social isolation is that there doesn't seem to be a proper solution.

[@backalleygaming7096]

I agree. Im trying to find a way out of it, and its hard. We need social connection with you it lifes difficulties becomes horrendous

[@ctrldelete1763]

There isn't a solution because social isolated people (in general society)aren't really isolated in the sense that their freedoms have servley been taken away, they are simply the opposite of what is popular or even average. I guess socially isolated people are no different than the opposite of that, in the sense that these are the cards that have been dealt. It's sounds like a condemnation however I highly doubt anyone deserves to breath let alone live in a world that was never designed for happiness in the first place. Jordan Peterson explains common sense really well ( on the dangers of building walls) and he is somewhat a beakon of truth. However you can only find parts of truth with JP and not absolute truth. This is because perception and reality are two different things and JP moves in that direction of getting ones house in order while the people in countries like North Korea would disagree. Regardless of the intellectual trail of brilliant minds in past and present and I'm sure JP would agree that only God knows.

[@Dist0rtion1]

I've been doing this for 11 years. When do I die?

[@ordinaryextraordinarybrotha]

Good point Mr Peterson but dealing with other people will lead you to Insanity as well

[@bjornnno]

Best comment ever

[@Oviegoat8]

You have to moderate both but being old and lonely is catastrophic

[@feme6052]

i have been living involutarly isolated since many years and it changed me: it made you more vulnerable to bad mood in long term. it worsens over time. but what to you want to do?? i tried to get in touch with people. but they care a shit about my neeeds. its sick.

[@Righteousbandit]

After going to a boarding school it really messed me up mentally, I was never the same after that, with their strict schedules and having us stay inside it made it hard for me to go back to how I used to be. I never leave my room, but I still want adventure.

[@einareinarsson8662]

Exactly! What is more insane is that people doesnt care or understand or both what it does to people.

[@LOSERMINDED7989]

Its better to be isolated and alone than have to deal with people.. Just having peopl near is sickening

[@layotheleprechaun]

When in isolation I experienced grandeur delusions. When in isolation I experienced visual hallucinations. When in isolation I experienced auditory hallucinations. When in isolation I fell into addictive habits. There’s a recurring theme here. I’m working on a video to address this theme and focus on the importance of escaping loneliness to inprove your health/sanity

[@Wabbelpaddel]

Never. Non-isolation is weakness, dependency, you use people as drugs and submit to their hierarchies. And hierarchies need to burn to death.

[@WolfODonnelfan]

I experience delusions or hallucinations actually more when I am around people than when I am alone. Just because isolation doesn't work for you as a person, that doesn't mean that it's the same for everyone.

[@layotheleprechaun]

@@WolfODonnelfan my delusions and hallucinations were more frequent when I was with people who had negative or toxic traits, or if we took drugs together. Do you experience the delusions or hallucinations more frequently if you’re with people who show you love and respect?

[@sebenty6844]

@@Wabbelpaddel your going to go insane after awhile, trust me it's not worth it

[@Wabbelpaddel]

@@sebenty6844 Reporting in after a while: Yes, that is true. Turned me into an autistic alien.

[@skaterdude14b]

I’m suffering unbearably. please help!

[@gfxemporium9558]

If you're male, 20+ days semen retention will change your life bro

[@thestarlitmagician]

helped to conspire my murder I am definitely over it they say we choose our lives but we never chose to be abused by narcissists who have authority over our lives

[@Mohammad_Ali__]

Such a feeling in the video can reduce a person’s lifespan, make a person have a difficult time to build up friendship/relationships, almost entirely change one’s feelings when seeing that person/people who befriended a person causing one big change in a way that not only depression occurs, but mentality may have major consequences. At least that is my opinion.

[@ksciencebuddy]

7 years . Still not dead

[@Dist0rtion1]

11 years, beat that.

[@999timepass]

​@@Dist0rtion1 14..

[@Rollacoastertycoon]

5

[@Darci3333]

I feel that too often in todays world in work environments these so called grownups still for the most part act like in high school with their cliques, bullying and on purpose leaving some out of things such as going to get lunch and asking almost everyone else but the few they chose to leave out all the time....

[@ReneEstrada1991]

I'm switching to self isolation, used to outgoing ..not no more it's for the best , no stupid relationships with useless people nobody nothing everyone is gone 🥰

[@User40919]

I used to go out a lot as well. Isolation is fun for now, I don't know how long the fun will last. Good luck with your journey though.

[@ReneEstrada1991]

@@User40919 thanks 😊

[@scout0487]

Isolation is great at first. Comfortable and quiet. Trust me when I say don’t stay there, it will eat you up till you have nothing left. Your own solitude is not enough to make the pain go away. You guys got this 👍

[@ReneEstrada1991]

@scout0487 Oh no it is 🕊🙏🏼

[@jaco1368]

i am no fun what i can do. no one will speak to me, can't meet peoples expectations anymore. being 5 years with no people, any idea how many i have left? gotta pay cats rent

[@ProGamER__801]

People are worse than animals today so better to isolate than being around them everyday ...!!!

[@A.I.1324]

It depends on how isolated, if youre a consistent planner you can definitely get your brain fixed through as long as theres a form of communications even in a book.

[@markgreen7378]

The Past has Gone. The future is not yet here. All we ever have is this moment.

[@hate-cw3ki]

I have huge respect for this man. He saved my life❤

[@copernicusnewton2569]

It's getting rarer to find videos about him that aren't blemished with stock footage and cringeworthy music.

[@Tojoj22]

All I need is Wifi, food, house and a pet that's it. Ive had bad experience with humanity social isolation is my desiny

[@User40919]

I used to be very outgoing. I told my mom that all I need is WiFi, because she was concerned about my visiting friends all of the time during my early years of highschool. We had WiFi installed and for the past 4 years I have been going out less. This year I haven't gone out much unless I had to. All I need as well is WiFi, a house, a pet, books, a back yard and a laptop.

[@KurKure-t7i]

I have been facing social isolation for last 25 years. I'm 28. It has only made me stronger. I am not bothered by what people think about me. I am never sad. And I can adapt in any situation

[@kaptunkordan6656]

Me realizing I've been this way my whole life

[@shinjuku96jackson4]

I love Insanity and Death in that order Jordan.

[@toby7442]

@D. Engelbrecht zing

[@spara6124]

😂😅

[@seanshomestead]

I’ve gone months without social contact… it was amazing.

[@hhhbgg982]

Really is it? Or are you trying to deny you have a problem

[@johnnysphere3510]

Try years...😏

[@seanshomestead]

@@hhhbgg982 lol oh I have a problem alright. My problem is it was amazing. Pretty good problem if you ask me 😜

[@seanshomestead]

@@johnnysphere3510 don’t tempt me Satan.

[@hhhbgg982]

@@seanshomestead nah your missing out on life

[@sujitbhattacharjee435]

I don't mind insanity I do mind not feeling safe

[@makaiwinchester8754]

you and me both

[@jenniferclarke900]

How to heal social deprivation from childhood? ( 10-15 locked in my room unable to do anything, even read, while not in school or eating) And young adulthood it became self imposed due to addiction and depression....I've probably spent 75% of my life isolated....

[@Seven-ld9zv]

I guess it depends on the individual and the personal reasons + your state of mind when reaching social isolation. Why look for extremities ? Tell Buddha, the prophet Muhammed, tell jesus christ, tell Sadh guru, tell creator of Vipassana and all it's students, tell every monk around the world that social isolation leads to insanity and death and see what they have to say about that statement.

[@User40919]

I've noticed that my speech is being affected. I'm more soft spoken, I don't speak for long and I don't say random things as much whenever I run out of things to say. I stay quiet when I don't know what to say. All of this happned within a year. I also don't go out much and when I do it feels like a chore. In the past I was very outgoing and played sports. Today I spend my time at home exercising, learning languages, watching videos and working on my business. Life has become more simple for me. I've gotten used to this life. It's not as bad as you think.

[@loveoneanother4812]

So I'm contemplating on going into some sort of isolation. I figure this way I can't hurt anybody and I won't get hurt by anymore either. My heart hurts at the thought of the idea of never taking to my family again but at the same time they all have their own lives and we rarely talk anyways so whats it really matter. During 2020 I was isolated and the only one I talked to was God and I was fine.

[@hay_Z2021]

honestly this sounds practically like me, thats the reason why you haven't lost your mind, you have a relationship with God! he's someone you can ALWAYS talk to, however I do want to say, its good that we go out and do things, even if they're small, God made every day and every day is a gift, lets enjoy it! :)

[@AngeloMcWhatever]

Jordan has never heard of the Hikikomori, those ones isolate themselves for decades and still survive

[@CoreofShane]

They are mentally ill though. Check out the docs. They need rehabilitation to re enter society. Plus a lot of them spend time online, where social activities can take place

[@michelled.4874]

Just because a few Hikikomori survived isolation for decades (and even if they survived it that doesn't mean they weren't damaged from it because humans were never meant for extreme isolation and loneliness) doesn't mean that most humans can. Science shows that extreme isolation and loneliness lead to mental health issues, suicide, addictions, physical health issues like chronic inflammation and anxiety and depression, and a shorter lifespan or life expectancy, like you can die ten years younger. It's like the idiots who make the argument that smoking is harmless because a few lucky smokers never had cancer throughout their lives. It's a stupid and lazy argument. Look at the science, science and the countless people who were damaged and killed by extreme isolation and loneliness speak for itself. The number of teens and adults who develop severe mental problems or try to take their own lives during and after confinement or solitary confinement speak for itself. Humans were not meant for prolonged extreme isolation and loneliness, the human brain, mind, body and soul were not meant to experience this over long periods of times, even animals in experiments (including mices and primates) show that if they are in extreme isolation and loneliness for too long they start developing mental problems, extreme stress, chronic inflammation, confusion and incapacity of communicating and socializing with peers once they are brought back in contact with other members of their species.

[@fatuusdottore]

They exist, they don’t live.

[@juliatoussaint9700]

@@CoreofShane its already proved that social interections, specially if they're trough text doesnt have at all the same effect as an actual real conversation in the human brain

[@BestIsntEasy]

@@CoreofShane 🤣 WHO wants to BE part of "society" with all of it's addictions, devil's and everything else. ❌🐍❌ No Thanks 👁💎👁 ☎️ Corona is CROWN.

[@astroshiners]

He is arguing that the king needs to drink from the poisoned well to be as sane as everybody else.

[@hifatpeople]

Even a king needs water

[@rafalmichalec1982]

Please help me 😖.cant live longer like that .im alone I lost everybody in my life.8m isolated for the las5 3 years. I cant takes this longer.

[@Boby-xg7yz]

Who are the others in your home

[@rafalmichalec1982]

No body .Just me .I'm filing like,I'm dying😔

[@Boby-xg7yz]

@@rafalmichalec1982 where u get money to live. Your work??

[@nil981]

I would happily choose insanity if it means I get to enjoy the last few years of life I have left without a care in the world of what other people think about me. Why would they start caring now that I'm insane when they wouldn't even notice me when I was sane by their definition?

[@killy374]

Shit I will be dead soon ngl

[@chillychese]

Why do I isolate from friends who want to hang out. Why do I feel the need to do something that actively harms the relationships that I enjoy

[@user-fc5wq3sb4f]

... in comes God. And by only the Son you will transform. To be in His image.

[@fatuusdottore]

god doesn’t exist

[@godwhispersinmyearsinsleep5351]

God is dead. Humankind trampled him under its feet and debunked his son's lies. Stop spreading bs 🐮💩

[@christopher.saint.christopher]

I'm doomed 👍

[@cheeseburgereddy8822]

All you need is love, everybody!

[@33ShotsCuzFightsDontMatter]

Nah

[@firstnamelastname6738]

Empathy and love is conditional. If you have low self esteem and trauma you will be looked down as a ''loser'' even if they don't tell you upfront.

[@chip1pan]

I e isolated myself from everyone since my divorce. I can't recover

[@tedoymisojos]

Hermits dont keel over and die in a year

[@ianeddy4217]

This guy is dead wrong. The truth is, some people are too weak to handle isolation. I have nothing against those people, but nobody can deny that needing social validation to function is a weakness as opposed to fully functioning and being happy without social validation. I'll use myself as an example. I was never able to get my bipolar disorder into remission until I isolated from society. The trouble is that schmucks like this hear "people might benefit from social interactions" and turn it into the wildly exaggerated " you'll die without social interaction. He's doing more harm then good.

[@daniellekunze3215]

I agree. Thinking about people, by profession, who have no choice but to be isolated & they find ways to adapt and survive. One component that helps is being outdoors in nature -- it's a grounding force and can provide you with stimuli that you're not getting from human interaction, at least. Really feel for people in cities who are isolated and also disconnected from nature.

[@ianeddy4217]

@@daniellekunze3215 i know what you mean. I spent a very long time isolated and badly depressed; I have type 2 bipolar and a complicated history. Eventually I came out and now at the present day I am the happiest I've ever been. I have just a few friends, my immediate family, and I have great relationships with my coworkers. That's enough for me. Sometimes we have to respect toxic people from our lives the same way we respect cancer from our bodies. Now that I am back to having a homeostatic brain I notice how much more I love being outdoors against. I love seeing brightly colored flowers, and over the best few weeks, ive had the strangest sensation everytime I see bright flowers, like they appear even more vivid and I get this positive sort of sensation and thought I my mind that "this is good for my brain". One time I had a doctor write me a prescription "daily outside time" as both light hearted but also reassuring that it would do me wonders since he knew I was a psychology major. I'm very happy you brought up the outdoors, because I feel like it should be more widespread and done with care own each person's unique situation, at random in no particular order, is the location safe? Is the person susceptible to skin cancer? Allergies? Whatever the case may be, yatta yatta, proceed with care and such. But that element of having some sort of daily benefit from the outdoors is there

[@einareinarsson8662]

It makes you go under.

[@GamingBoxChannel]

Why do people wanna fix things? Why not just make it just as bad for others

[@DavidJ-ty5jm]

Guess I'm in trouble...

[@Slazza]

I am 26 now. Not to whine but I never thought it would get this lonely. I used to be surrounded by people. I have disabilities now. Everyone is too consumed by being a consumer and working and the rat race. I go to work. Come home and sleep and repeat this 6 days a week. I can’t remember the last time anyone genuinely asked how I was doing because they cared or a time I’ve had a good conversation where I felt understood. Why are we all so lonely

[@Slazza]

On top of that, I’m about to be homeless as bills have fell behind due to being sick. Next chapter might bring better things but fuck I wasn’t prepared for the world to be like this. I feel like I was sold a dream as a kid.

[@Slazza]

During my loneliness I have found however that I have a lot of compassion in me. It makes me realise how important checking up on people is. But idk, I feel like a weirdo sometimes. I check in on people and almost get shrugged away. I don’t know if it’s because I’m not well people don’t want to complain about their life because they probably think “well at least I’m not him” but I don’t think like that. I wouldn’t trade my troubles for anyone else’s. I just wish I didn’t live in my head 24/7.

[@Sk-po4wd]

i want to issolate myself somewhere far away where i can just find peace and have mandatory work to get my motivation back up on something. Want to feel free!

[@fatuusdottore]

So I am going to die.

[@NickRyanBayon]

We can die together i guess?

[@harryhowlett4584]

@@NickRyanBayon count me in

[@BE-jf7ke]

Should we create a social isolation group chat? So we can die together? Lemme know

[@harryhowlett4584]

@@BE-jf7ke please

[@MarathonWZ]

@@NickRyanBayon How are you holding up?

[@MerkurioBua]

thats what i want jordan peterson thats what i want

[@NerakGreen]

I’d respectfully argue that social interactions, at least after the adolescent age, is a vastly more dangerous path to walk than a solitary one. I don’t need to see anyone else bop and weave to know that a straight path is of least resistance for me to take. Heck, their presence would compel me to take the much longer walk. If I had to choose between safe efficiency and avoidably dangerous experiences, I don’t think I’d willfully choose the latter. We never address how the beautiful ones of the Calhoun experiments felt about their quality of life up until their final moments. We have no control how our children will or won’t breed. We can only prettify ourselves and let those seeds fruit or not of their own accord. I think the beautiful ones ended happily. No mouse was calling for a phone card or a piece of tail. They probably just sat around crafting and doing face masks and stuff lol

[@projectbirdfeederman5491]

But Kermit was never alone, what's his excuse?

[@AnotherEarthling666]

Pain is fine because as long as you still feel it, you’re still sane and alive. The real issue starts when you cannot feel anything, not even pain. All you have left is an infinite void swallowing any last bit of feelings left in your soul. At this point even if you don not believe it you are insane. That void becomes your forever torture, a life without pain, love, feelings, even hunger loses its meaning. Life becomes tasteless, colorless, meaningless, if not for breathing sometimes you start to doubt you’re still alive and you pull yourself through time only waiting for the end. Life sucks

[@joshgreene8219]

Your not alone. I'm right here with you

[@northstar92]

Its not just that you'll go mad, the general public's reaction to you will sour until they cast all their fears onto you like some kind of sacrificial scapegoat

[@Drewski96-wz7zv]

Or you put on big boy pants, make a circle of friends who share your hobbies and thoughts, and realize that you dont need EVERYONE to love you. Or better yet save money, find a place with a vibe that matches yours, and leave your current environment.

[@northstar92]

is that what you did? you seem like a winner

[@Drewski96-wz7zv]

@@northstar92 I am. I don't go whining on videos just responding to losers here and there.

[@firstnamelastname6738]

@@Drewski96-wz7zv So cool you are. Must be feeling good calling people losers huh? Atta boy give your ego a snack while you're at it. Fuck off.

[@einareinarsson8662]

I think you first have to try something to see if you are? Will? Regain full health? I have no reason to not assume the most sane, normal, healthy person will get very damaged and if it expands to years and you can come back to sanity from that!!! You are a changed person. Isolation and cut of by necessary human relations is not have we ever worked. Its against how we evolved its almost like putting a nice healthy flower in dessert and pretend this is your new normal place to be and when it falled apart. That was strange. It was all up to him to walk into a better place. And it piisses people of. Most situations and social environment is not an accievement. And this is a sickness in many places and the consequences will not be what it should be. Its much like a fish in a tank hapily unknowing predicting the environment not aware of that the very foundation it stands in is melting down.

[@astroshiners]

I am counting down to death. Oh well, the company was 'a noi ing' in the Italo-fascist sense.

[@RohnDON]

Must be a genius😂 OR Peterson doesn't have real experience with this. Im completely ordinary excepting human interaction. I interact with myself. I always have. I give myself criticism and feedback. No one other than you can maintain your sanity. My nan has for as long as i can remember been a loner but she doesnt criticise herself. She still has ego controlling how she percieves others and self which will over time and lack of intercation lead you to believe you're better. I think the ego must. I have real experience with isolation and the ego and in my experience that is what insanity is. Having a powerful ego and thus you cant correct things you are doing wrong. Your ego wont allow you to accept that you really were wrong. Perhaps the idea and a solution will cross your mind, as long as the ego remains you wont be able to enact this solution to produce meaningful change. You have to hate yourself to kill your ego. You really have to break yourself down to dust and rebuild from the start. Build something you can be proud of. I was obese as a kid into my early teens and i wanted to be atheltic. I didnt want to feel constant shame over my physique but i couldn't change. I grew up in a very stressful environment ans eating was how i would cope with the anxiety of day to day living. I didnt realise this until recently but i ate for some form of comfort and reprieve from the stresses of my young mind. I was some months off turning 14 and i remember looking at myself in the mirror and feeling hate for myself. Genuine hate for the first time. I hated what i was and despite years of trying to change i could not. I hated that the most. My inaction in changing it even though i knew i could. I stopped eating and started working out harder than i ever have. I was in a calorific deficit for months. Trying to sleep but you wake up 10-20 times because you are hungry. You wake up in the morning your muscles feel like you've just got done working out and maybe you cramp up when you get out of bed. You go to brush your teeth and you just vomit up bile and any water you've drunk that morning. Strapping on a jumper and tracksuit pants in 38 degree centigrade duct taping the legs and hands to stop any air flow and throwing combos on the heavy bag till your vision is black and you cant really open your eyes. I nearly died in changing probably a few times. All of that. My ego told me to just stop. Go inside and eat to release your angst. Its easier in every metric. I chose pain and current day im still happy with that choice. It showed me that reality and life is what you make it. YOU AND YOU ALONE CONTROL YOUR OWN DESTINY AND PATH! thats what it taught me. Shifting blame, making up little stories you can tell yourself to cater to your ego instead of making changes and admitting you are wrong. That never got me anywhere but deeper into despair. Thats why when andrew says get a 6-pack and then come back and tell me your still depressed, i agree 1000%. Ive been there throwing pity parties for myself and ive been there breaking myself to dust so i wasnt able to make those same excuses anymore without feeling that hatred of that weakness that i alone was identifying with and perpetuating in my own existence. Only you, can save you. If you must know it was extremely abusive my nose orbital bone and rotator cuff are all broken but healed now obviously. And as such there was usually no real causation so it could be anytime hence my all day every day anxiety. Just a weak person. He's partly the reason i have such extreme ownership and accountability. Ive never had such bad experiences such a lack of respect for anyone and im not gonna go around doong that to people. The only reason i was born is because my mother was an abuse victim as a child that fell right back into the comfy role of full time victim. I was bullied plenty in school but it never compared to the terror of my home life growing up. Im off topic here i think or im struggling to tie this together. In essence I've done everything i could to be the best man i can be. For me. When you do it for others it's faked and temporary. When you change for you, that shxt is forever. Be selfish cut out the cancers that envy you and will do anything to steal your light so that it doesnt contrast and highlight their darkness. Shxtty people don't want to be around good. They secretly want what you have and will do anything to steal your light and make you feel as horrible as they do. To this day, i could end him and not blink. Instead of ending his pain and ruining my potential for good. I got away. I fixated on his end for many years before finally aged 17 i left home and was homeless for approximately a year. He's still the same miserable wreck to this day and i know it kills him that i won and he'll never be able to control and abuse me again without extreme consequences likely involving his end. It's good being alone when you've seen the worst of people. I'm my own positive influence. I'm my own teacher. I'm my own friend and i am the only family I've got. I'm the one that disciplines myself and guides myself away from negativity. I'm the one who makes me laugh. What can i say. Self love is the only real love. Only you have got you. All you people that feel reliant on others, think about how often any actual help has ever came your way... If you're lucky maybe once or twice in a whole lifetime will anyone that isnt you save you from yourself and help you better than you can help yourself. It doesnt happen.

[@incrediblenif]

I tend to disagree, I think it's the immersion into society and the need to constantly have to adapt, fit in and coexist with those that you'd rather NOT coexist with, that leads to insanity. If you think about it, there's far more people in the population that are insane and a part if THAT society, thrn the minority of thoe living reclusively. So if living away from society is problematic, the numbers should be reversed.

[@beccaplans]

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[@intelligentdesign8994]

Aaaand just like that... all of the world's social recluses, including myself, descend onto this one comment section. And suddenly I don't feel so alone anymore. Not that it makes any difference to me because I am not like you all, I am above you. LOLOLOLOL Joke! Don't all pounce at once now.

[@Tyson.jamess]

I isolate in a cabin by myself in the woods for 4 years now I'm fine

[@SelfImprovement1111]

I think if your depressed or feel lonely then isolation makes you go mad but if your mentally stable and introverted then your fine.

[@apimpnamedslickback9453]

What is isolation?

[@devynivienuolika7148]

Google it

[@chocolatecookie8571]

to not be seen

[@henryevans9975]

He's right, I feel myself slipping away a little more each day 😅 🔫

[@diccctator2102]

Second year of isolation 😂 what is he talking about

[@eskaban_edits_beats_and_more]

are you socially isolated or just a normie whos in lockdown, those are not alike in any way shape or form

[@diccctator2102]

@@eskaban_edits_beats_and_more yeah i was in lock down im pretty social now life is great

[@toddr.4630]

TRUST what God has done for you, the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ paid everything you owe PERIOD, the FREE GIFT of God to EVERYONE who BELIEVES, it is received by FAITH and FAITH alone, have you heard of the dispensation of the grace of God given to the apostle Paul alone ?? Ephesians 3:1-2 ,, most haven't, denominational churchianity has REFUSED to rightly divide the word of truth 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV and people's REFUSAL to study for themselves has done more to BLIND lost people to the saving grace of God than ANYTHING. 1 Corinthians 15:1 thru 4 KJV is the gospel of YOUR salvation ❤️. Romans 1:16. Ephesians 1:13. Romans 3:23. Romans 6:23. Romans 5:8. 2 Corinthians 5: 21. Romans 4:25. Romans 4:5. Romans 5:1-2. Ephesians 1:6-7 KJV.

[@Gaylordwincel]

Åääæäääääääå

[@criticadorauniversal]

Instead of complaining, are you looking for a solution to your problem?

[@mr.ditkovich6379]

Yes and doesn't work

[@DontShootTheMessenger4thTier]

My inner demons messed my perception on reality up. Im pretty much lost unless I can’t find a way to let go of my past.

[@petsh0pgirl]

yeah, and what's about you?

[@godwhispersinmyearsinsleep5351]

🐮💩

[@mogenvonbogel7342]

Most people aren’t if they analyse themselves they defend it and actually enjoy complaining

[@InsanitysApex]

The sheer amount of self-pity in these comments is truly incredible. It's like walking through an online version of a graveyard; a bunch of half-buried zombies unsure whether to rise up or finish the job. Why even bother making emotional confessions here when you have no real intention of setting anything right for your real life? Why keep trying? Have you even tried, honestly? Seeing as many of your ego's and even psyche's are too weak to bear the reality ( *you're the problem* ), please, by all means pour your hatred and negativity onto me. Waste not, want not. Isolation is only as good as the person isolated. So if your isolation sucks, what does that say about you? If your isolation is painful, depressing, lonely, enraging, apathetic or any other undesirable trait..... that is a direct reflection of you. And because isolation is purely a reflection of you, you have chosen to blind yourself to a gift from the universe. A mirror to mold yourself in, free from intervention. And how have you spent your days, months and years people? What skills and virtues have you to show? Crying out to anonymous strangers on the web seeking most desperate forms of solace? Talking, smiling, and dancing all add years to your life. And you could be doing all of these for yourself not only for your simple enjoyment, but building yourself up and truly getting to know yourself like noone ever has. The existential void, the infinite abyss of nothingness, is the perfect vacuum to suck away all your fears and insecurities. Your inner demons torture you only because you remain too weak (if only in your mind) to conquer and command them. When will you wake up and take back what's yours? Why do you speak as if your lives don't matter? I say *fuck your fears and social sensibilities* . It's high time we stopped worrying about what others might think and started living for our best self. You are going to spend the rest of your life with yourself so you might as well live it to your fullest. If you can't get out of it, get into it. Isolation can be your tomb or it can be your cocoon. The decision is yours alone.

[@mylinhnguyen3751]

Well said

[@meanmelodies]

you do realize most of these people are depressed, some never recover some do meds and therapy don't help everyone and don't get me started on anhedonia, get off of your high horse

[@InsanitysApex]

@@meanmelodies *Revelations 61 | HUMANS ARE MULTIVERSAL BEINGS.* *Revelations 6 | YOU ARE INTERDIMENSÏØNAL CONSCIOUSNESS | YOU ARE O.* *Revelations 42 | PHYSICAL UNIVERSE HAS NO PURPOSE. NOTHING AND ENTROPY VS. IONS.* This is a Truth of Volume ~99.99999% Empty. *Revelations 44 | LIFE. SURVIVE, REPRODUCE, THRIVE, EVOLVE* _Emphasis on Thrive_ You Don't have to Empathize with an Empty Physical UniVerse your O isn't even in. I have seen Humanity's Extinction Infinite Times. Do you Think I Give up? My high horse? You Rationalize their Self-Pity so they can Continue to Circle the Drain. *121. WOMEN ARE GODDESSES. HUMAN WOMEN ARE|WERE UNREALIZED.* *140. MEN ARE GODS. MEN ARE|WERE UNREALIZED.* I Could REALLY REALLY USE YOUR HELP!!!! NOT YOUR SELF-RIGHTEOUS BS. CAN YOU HELP???? HELLLLO? SAVE ONE!!! STARTING WITH YOURSELF!!! ARE YOU AWAKE? SLAP YOURSELF!!! UNCONCSIOUS, SLAP THIS IDIOT!!!! WAKE THE O UP! No, Your Species is Asleep. I have to save 8 Billion at once. Cause you're all asleep, insane, selfish losers. Goodbye Forever, God | dess of Rationalized Failures Leading to Suicide from Empathisizing with an Empty UniVerse your O isn't even in. The Absurdities of your Stupidities...

[@InsanitysApex]

@@meanmelodies 293. YOU WILL MAKE REALIZATIONS FOR YOURSELF. YOU WILL MAKE REALIZATIONS FOR YOUR RELATIONSHIPS. 3OO. O IS PILOTING A MULTIVERSAL GODDESS. O IS PILOTING A MULTIVERSAL GOD. Lecture me on "you do realize". Yes, Yes. I am the 1st Realized God in your Species. Maybe... you can Awake and Try? Awake little O. Try? Yes? Use Freewill? Instead of cry to Anti-Christ. (He thinks you should kys)

[@InsanitysApex]

@@meanmelodies *REVELATIONS 47 | Ø PURPOSE. NOTHING ATROPHY, APOTHY, SOLITUDE, SADNESS. SILENCE, PEACE, RELAXATION* You excuse failure as you are one. Go back to sleep. 61. HUMANS ARE MULTIVERSAL BEINGS. THE HUMAN CONDITION IS UNHOLY TRINITY*. (O, PSYCHE, BODY (MAKE THIS PERSONAL)). (HUMANISTIC) 62. INTELLIGENT LIFE ESCAPES THE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE. MULTIVERSAL EVOLUTIONARY PSYCHOBIOLOGY. (LIFE & BIOLOGY) You steal their Failure to whine. Pathetic. You are PATHETIC!!!!!

[@user-sq8hq9mh9o]

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[@esclavodelsistema9783]

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