Satanism: Fear, Manipulation, & Suffering | Zeena Schreck | EP 471

[@Nicky_Brens]

Dr. Peterson, I’ve noticed you’re allowing more space for your guests to speak and I very much appreciate it. Excellent work, sir!

[@brianmeen2158]

Hopefully Jordan has learned to let his guest speak more. He used to interrupt his guests way too often

[@martinr2040]

I think with the delay between interview and publication it might be that he got the feedback from the musk interview for example. JP is a man that can still learn and improve - after all the fame, thats great to see! Hope i can still do that when im old ❤

[@joshforest304]

Dr. Peterson has always taken peoples criticisms to heart I believe. He said that '12 Rules' didn't come from making commandments but rather giving succinct answers that people proved to respond to when he wrote articles in the 90s. 🙏

[@user-yb9hi3us4p]

And I bet it takes a lot of effort. Although he knows how to listen better than most, you tell he has a lot to say and wants to get out. I think it depends on the guest too. This topic is new to a.lot of people so you're not going assume what she's going to say next.

[@haman316]

@@brianmeen2158 occupational habit

[@fujow120000]

Great interview. Very happy she left satanism. I would like to point out something regarding Tantric Buddhism, based on 14 years of immersive practice, before being pulled to Christ a year ago. Buddhism is a very common path to fall into when one is dissatisfied with Abrahamic religion, as I was. My dissatisfaction was based on a very surface level understanding and falling for anti Christian propaganda. In my experience of practicing hard, meditating 2 hours a day, reading texts for another hour a day, going on retreats, receiving teachings from famous Tibetan teachers, I got good at visualizing, sitting still for long periods, quieting my mind and controlling my emotions better. What I did not get was an “enlightenment experience” or any amazing revelations or sudden transformation. I never met anyone, including these high level teachers, who claimed to either. What Zeena said about compassion being the centerpiece of all the practices is true, however it’s very abstract. The main thrust is to become enlightened so you can bring others to enlightenment. What I found to be very unsatisfying and unnerving was the level of dedication one must have to one’s teacher or teachers, literally offering prostrations to them, and being taught over and over to see them as an enlightened Buddha, ignoring anything in their behavior that contradicts this. Another observation of westerners who practice Tibetan Buddhism is the disrespect for Abrahamic religions, especially Christianity. In addition to that, almost everyone (everyone I knew) had the same political beliefs, which fall to the left. Conservatives, like Christians, were clearly not respected. Once I answered the pull of Christ, which came out of nowhere, I found that I was greatly misinformed and under informed of the incredibly deep and profound truths found in the Christian traditions. Within weeks of feeling that strange pull to Christianity, I accepted Christ and my life has changed dramatically for the better. My marriage is better, my friendships are better, my health is better, my self discipline is better. In a few weeks, my life changed more than in 14 years of “practice”. I thank Jordan Peterson for part of my waking up to the depth of what I used to think of as a silly collection of myths. Just to be clear, my transformation came when I repented, thanked Christ for his sacrifice, admitted out loud that I need Him in my life and asked for the grace of faith.

[@margaretgray8339]

Amen!!! ❤ ✝️ ❤

[@Ruth-ul6rw]

Thanks for this message.

[@NeanderthalWoman-ou8ev]

I'm glad that someone who is familiar with Buddhism spoke up about this.

[@chriper77]

Have you given your testimony anywhere on youtube? I'd love to hear more about your experience. You seem to have good insight

[@psynergy007]

Incredible testimony! I am also a Christian Theist, but I've always seen the immense value in meditation. Do you still practice it today as a Christian?

[@Boo728]

Damn, as a former CoS member and LeVayen Satanist It's crazy seeing an appearance by Zeena.. JBP is the reason I stepped away from the Occult almost 8yrs ago. It's a long difficult road back to God, but I'm headed down the path the best I can.

[@annalynn9325]

I was born into a generational occult family and just read an AMAZING book called “You Are Mine” by Sister Anastasia. She was both a Tibetan Buddhist and a witch, and it’s about her path out

[@misterjones8385]

Congrats on breaking the chains.

[@ryan.1990]

Gets easier when you realise it's all just made up nonsense to make losers feel powerful and unique

[@JagadguruSvamiVegananda]

Are you a THEIST? 🤔 If so, what are the reasons for your BELIEF in God? 🤓

[@3k3u3]

❤ the devil won’t let you go without a fight, remember that when you feel down or angry. You got this! God bless you

[@reginarichards7001]

For Mr. JBP and Zeena, and everyone else......the only path to true peace (and sanity), is through JESUS CHRIST.

[@EvonRomano-ge2og]

Yes, I agree. This was sad to listen to . The poor woman sounded like she’s still deluded with claims that “religion” and “ Abrahamic beliefs” were the problem with her Father. “Abrahamic religious people “ include all Christians which, apparently, she sees as being just as bad as her Father ?? This was hard to listen to.

[@michellehart6259]

​@@EvonRomano-ge2ogfrom what I'm hearing, early in interview, I agree. My first impression of her was uncomfortable. She has a darkness yet to her. Deliverance would help her greatly I believe. As it did me.

[@HeatherThinks]

It's quite clear she's still struggling with much of this. I hope she comes to understand true Christianity and the unmatched love, acceptance, and freedom found there. 🙏

[@EvonRomano-ge2og]

Americanized versions of Buddhism and Hinduism are just alternate ways to attack Christianity. She literally blamed “Abrahamic religion “ for her father’s narcissistic behavior and then went on to explain that Christians are part of the “abrahamic religion “ but that she is above all that……very sad. Very dark

[@Viperfitness]

Absolutely not. Grow up.

[@staciebrooks2583]

I used to be a witch/new ager until I had an encounter with God and gave my life to Christ. I pray she has the same experience one day. 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@chaoswitch1974]

Christ can be incorporated into any witches pagan pantheon. It's not juxtaposed, though many people tend to think so. You find Christian mysticism in much occultism.

[@carolp5993]

Zeena strikes me as a soft spoken intelligent woman who found her path. She is a Buddhist which is her choice of religion: not everyone chooses Christ. And if you don’t you shouldn’t be ostracized. Religion is a choice for everyone as long as you harm no one. We all have a right to our own beliefs

[@MsTaebogirl]

I will tell you that there’s a difference between following a religion and having a personal relationship with Jesus. I don’t think there’s any ostracizing here; trust me, when The Lord grabs a hold of you…you won’t ever want to go back to life before knowing Him

[@renayeblack5906]

​@@MsTaebogirl amen. I am going to non stop pray for Zeena, until she has a: The Good Lord Jesus, encounter and indeed, never looks back...and is completely healed of her past in the perfect name of Jesus Christ ✝️🕊✝️.

[@tonytony6912]

God does not like religion. You're either his child and have a personal relationship with him or you don't. Remember Heaven is his kingdom. It is for his family.

[@Intercaust]

I was heavily into Satanism in my early 20s. Lead me down a very dark path. JBP helped bring me into the light 6 years ago today.

[@danerasmussen6468]

Praise God 🙌

[@gaylehudson7267]

Just a disillusioned Christian.

[@bg9938]

What did You find appealing about satanismo?

[@ItsGoblinHour]

May God bless and guide you jn all things dear one.

[@W45P.]

You jumped on a trend and failed. As Lavey said "A sucker is born every minute". You never where a Satanist.

[@rccdrrichiecolelmftsap302]

When I was an atheist and young man, I read Anton Zander LaVey’s Satanic Bible, which purported to be the opposite of Christianity, and it made sense to me. Then I read part 2, which was Satanic Rituals and I realized it was sick & problematic. I never believed in Satan until I became a Messianic Jew/Biblical Christian. A mentor told me Satan’s greatest deception was to make people believe he didn’t exist. After serious reflection and ‘Coming To Believe’; I realized she was right. Praise Jesus Christ, Lord & Savior of the world.

[@kryssialbulov2215]

I pray she comes clean about how her dad rly died... And the 6 yrs of torture her sister endured. And the demonic evil she went thru in the 7th and final yr of completing the ritual of attempting to impregnate her by being raped by the devil himself in the hopes of the anti christ being born and what she had to endure to get away of it all. She knows what really happened. I hope she doesn't lie about anything.

[@co36]

I did the same thing. It made my faith stronger

[@polarisjustdothework2258]

Amen!!!❤

[@charliedaniels1]

Praise God for people like you! Don’t ever stop giving your testimony

[@ProphetGreg94]

Wow. Thank you for sharing that. I’m glad you are a believer today.

[@philsdon8932]

"I'm not shy, I have nothing to say to you". Perfect. I'll borrow that line. Thanks Zeena.

[@anaconda470]

JBP laughed too 😂❤

[@MannyP-q3i]

Also; "I'm not racist, I just have preferences"

[@Aerojuanas]

This was an unbelievably good episode! Peterson really flexed his listening ears, and gave Zeena a chance to unpack her thoughts while gently drawing parallels to Christian theology.

[@GirlWithnail]

Hahahaha. Totally. Noticed it especially after his last interview

[@Aerojuanas]

@@GirlWithnail I've never seen Peterson so quiet before lol the look on his face was great too, he was so deeply engaged with what she was saying, like a proper therapy session 😆

[@GirlWithnail]

@@Aerojuanas hahahaha. Yeah!

[@MrsBax]

Yesss such a great episode!!

[@robertnaylor6119]

A true therapists lets you do the talking and walking through your situation to discover things for yourself.

[@oldredbeard1446]

About 20 years back, I met her older sister, Karla at a church of Satan event. I wasn't a Satanist per se, but had an interest in the Occult. Anyways, she was very friendly and intelligent, and we had a great conversation. I've since returned to Christianity, and sincerely hope she gets saved, along with every other Satanist. I pray for their salvation.

[@kerryalfaro9437]

Is Karla,'rae rae'?!!!!

[@GraceTruth29]

@@oldredbeard1446 I pray the same We have all fallen short of the Glory All

[@kirsten1007]

Amen. I believe her sister has been saved. Anton did horrible things to her I understand

[@Lifeisgood262]

@@kerryalfaro9437 That’s what I was wondering 🤔

[@sassybritches9344]

@@kerryalfaro9437I heard there was another sister named Raven.

[@BuddhatheRockstar]

I had no idea there would be so many people profesing their Christianity in the comments. Fascinating interview.

[@india-rosebrennan]

Yep, fear of the devil makes them flash gheir crosses. Fear is a hell of thing.

[@Daniel-js3tx]

@BuddhatheRockstar I think the same. But that does not impress me, just words! Not too many real 100% Christians on Earth, if any!

[@kari8044]

Of course there's real authentic Christians on the Earth because God's grace is real and authentic and h He's left a remnant. Just read the comments in the chat and see how Jesus has restored so many people's lives. Praise God! That's what he does! He restores and He renews, among other things. There is no one that is out of his reach.

[@DimWeasel]

IF (Irresponsibility Factor)

[@kariay50]

​@@kari8044Amen Kari🕊️😉. Well said. God bless you 🙏🏻

[@davidnavarro524]

Hi from El Paso, TX, where Richard Ramirez was born, btw. Just wanted to tell Zeena that it hurts to hear that she was mistreated by supposed Christians. Believe me, that's not a true believers heart! Praying for you for a real encounter w Jesus. He is The Way, The Truth, and The Life. Mankind will always fail and disappoint, but Jesus never will! ❤

[@susansmith1390]

I thought the same thing. As a follower of Jesus I would never attack her. I would pray for her.

[@DimWeasel]

>murderdom

[@Nick-r1d1v]

I agree, but Christians today as a whole need to have a backbone! Stand up for our savior who was crucified on our behalf! Yes I will throw hands for Jesus if there is no other option. I'm sick of my savior being trashed, the new pope movie coming out this month for example.

[@Nick-r1d1v]

​@@susansmith1390 not talking about her... I'm talking about american society today is anti Christian and anti Jewish..... Christ was crucified for us. And when there are no other options, I'm going to throw fists!

[@shelbyhunkler9259]

Fascinating lady. My sister and I were born in the 60's to preoccupied, driven, hedonistic parents who abandoned their parental obligations in order to further their respective careers and also chase their rampant sex lives. It's interesting to hear her take on that period of time in society and to hear how she began to recognize toxic patterns of behavior. Great interview!

[@robertrhaine9290]

I was born 1965, i know how you feel, my parents fled their religious parents and community, to pursue their own hedonistic, hippy lifestyle in another part of the country far away from view. I have spent most of my life trying to fix and correct myself from the terrible habits, values and ideals that i was exposed to. Mr. Peterson has been my personal enlightenment and probably savior. I have matured and am coming back to the lord every day. my deepest thanks Mr. Peterson

[@duderinoification]

i was born in the 80's to parents who were the same. your generation is not unique

[@AmbassadorofJesus-d4x]

I pray 🙏🙏🙏 you can forgive your parents... I also had a crazy up bring ling and my real dad done inappropriate. Things to me and it was a while before I forgave them both... It wasn't me allow to forgive I kept 🙏 and I felt a hot bucket of what felt like warm oil run down my head to my toes and it was forgiveness after this incident happened it was gone. I felt love again for him... I hope this helps you

[@shelbyhunkler9259]

@@AmbassadorofJesus-d4x oh I and my sister have forgiven them, both are in perfect health and will each probably live to be 98 years old. They will probably outlive both me and my sister at this rate. We are respectful and cordial to them but it's not easy to forget the 10,000 times they could have done the right thing but didn't. Most of what people deem evil is just selfishness and an "eff you" given to the basic rules of humanity. There are levels of it, from the terrible parent all the way down to the serial killer. But selfishness is at the root of all of it.

[@leanncrittendon3673]

@@duderinoification ouch, why the hatred of comparison? I find it best to simply relate and pray for others that can relate ! I am so grateful I was spared as I too was born in the 80s however my parents were born in the 40's - so me and my 7 older siblings were spared and really we were protected because my parents found it beyond obvious the idiocrasy that took over in the 60's and 70's. I pray your heart heals and that you have found the light.

[@janetstork8487]

I have never heard Jordan speak so little. I'm impressed with you allowing her to speak and let it flow. Your interview skills are improving

[@Topsy6892]

Because he knows he’s talking to a natural born narcissist

[@markschwartz7480]

Thank G-d for The Doc!

[@angelabell7254]

​@@RebelPrintMediamy thoughts exactly. Thank goodness there is someone else that can see right through the bullshit. Oh well. He's only Human 😂❤

[@jeanie5074]

Peterson still speaks too much to the point of nauseam. He needs to let his guests take the biggest part in speaking.

[@nobuyukiakayama]

@@RebelPrintMedia people who were on their knees used to scream too. You could be the next victim i visit. IP address...

[@Poppy.seeds.]

This made me cry… this woman is so loved…. ✝️ I hope she will get to experience Christs real love for her. Buddhism helped me in life.. but it wasn’t until I experienced Christ’s love that everything finally made sense. I’ll be offering prayers up for her.. let’s storm heaven for her guys.. ❤

[@trustlivelikeit]

We should

[@LauraLo11]

Amen

[@hedonismbot3274]

How does one experience christs love ?

[@zizi8447]

Invite Jesus Christ into your life and tell Him you want to experience His love.​@@hedonismbot3274

[@LauraLo11]

@hedonismbot3274 sincerely ask and pray for Jesus to show himself to you and to ask him to come into your heart and life. It sounds a little funny but please try it your life will be transformed. God Bless you and never forget Jesus loves you and has a plan for your life.

[@tonypalmentera7752]

I hate content about Satanism, because it's usually cartoonishly for, or against. I only clicked on this because Peterson was handling it...and it turns out, that's why she did the interview as well. You handled it academically, and it was extremely entertaining, informative, and for humanizing. Thanks to both of you.

[@Lena-ds2oh]

When I went through my agnostic phase in younger years I remembering researching what satanism was really about, and of course I came across Zeena, so it’s definitely great to see her now talking about all of that so we can absolutely have more understanding, and how who the man was behind all of it and her experience. Today I am a believer in Christ, we can always learn from everything.

[@MphoSaila]

I remember an old interview of hers before I really committed to Christ and she had said that there are not as many Christians in the world as we think. I was too young to understand what she meant but I get it now. With the gospel being as watered as it is there really are not as many as we think.

[@AimeeHope89]

This is a thing. I have a hard time even classifying myself as a christian because there are so many different teachings (40,000+ denominations at this point), most of which claim that the Law of God was nailed to the cross so we don't need it. If we don't have His Law, then we are forced to follow our own or someone else's instead. It's always been significant in my mind that the satanic bible says to do as you will, and that's the entirety of the law. In both the old and new testaments, it says very clearly that those who love Him will keep His commands. Those who hate Him don't. The falling away has been going on for quite some time now..there truly are very few who actually follow Him anymore. It's heartbreaking to witness, and very difficult to live through. People who are to be my brothers and sisters look down on me for keeping the Sabbath and His Feasts..but they will celebrate festivals rooted in paganism as if they were about Jesus, and have trunk or treat on halloween..there's a church in my area teaching yoga and having beer worship nights. I stay in prayer for them all across the earth..may the Truth be spoken and His Light shine over this world of darkness 😞🙌

[@Wentletrap213]

Agreed.

[@reidmartin6209]

@@AimeeHope89 Please search for the Orthodox Church, not because I am in it and I want converts but because it sounds like what you are looking for: a church with continuity with the Old and New Testaments, history, which preserves the traditions while remembering the spirit which should accompany them, without innovating like the Catholic Church or becoming rigid like the Pharisees. I am in the Coptic Orthodox Church and my priest observes the Sabbath from Friday to Saturday night. Pray for us because we have problems, but I hope you find what you are looking for.

[@wintermatherne2524]

The scriptures existed for 300 years before orthodox Roman Catholicism. That’s where the truth of Christianity is. Sola scriptura.

[@VoiceAndPianoByChristaFord]

​@@wintermatherne2524 Amen🎉

[@GraceTruth29]

I pray Zeena will be protected and blessed in the Name of Jesus Christ Coming out of this darkness and what it represents takes a lot of courage and boldness

[@cynthiaschell7246]

Perhaps we should pray to Our God Lord Jesus that she comes to repentance and Salvation through the Only Savior. She cannot receive His Protection until she submits to Him. It is the same for everyone.

[@christiner168]

It's insane to realize that this is, from what I hear, Taylor Swift's grandmother?😮😮😮

[@joxy4keeps963]

@@cynthiaschell7246 Notice The Cross in the background at 10:27…. GOD IS THERE LOOKING AFTER THIS WOMAN!!!

[@chriswilloughby48]

Forget superstition of all kinds, including Jewish zombie spirits.

[@thugempress4271]

She's Buddhist which is way older than Christianity. Please respect her philosophy. One could argue that Jesus was Buddhist. Christians should really study philosophy and other religions before bashing someone else's. You'll find there are many similarities.

[@donnahamilton7850]

Zeena if you happen to read this,It is a blessing to see you and see how beautiful you have flourished ❤ Thank you for your bravery 🙏🏻

[@ewagner7960]

I can’t help but think how much the true God of scripture LOVES this dear woman and He knows everything she had to endure … praying for her sweet soul

[@thefamily2707]

And now she worships another false satanic god (buddha) she is reaping up Gods anger and she does need prayer cause she knows Jesus is real and still after everything she has seen rejects God. 🤔

[@jrr570]

❤❤❤

[@seanc.mcnally2118]

Amen

[@chasityrandolph9698]

Amen me too ill pray for her too she needs Jesus

[@mareesimone6624]

To me scripture were created by philosophers who anthropomorphised a spiritual realm so humans of those times could relate to their literature of 'good', offering hope and codes of ethics to live by. They need nurturing as where the 'good' fades evil will replace it. Pray for world peace as war is being planned

[@laraoneal7284]

Jordan saying her mother sacrificed Her is right on the mark. Her family dynamic is unbelievably similar to mine. My mother Also did not know her father who also was a stumbling alcoholic on the streets. I definitely was raised in a web of lies which I was constantly trying to decipher and punished sometimes for asking questions as young as 7 years old.

[@kristenharden3157]

I have a similar story too. One day it came crumbling down when my biological granddaughter contacted me.

[@akashaofthenile6077]

Many of us who had very hard childhoods,,,are very strong people today, I can certainly say this, and I pray you can also. Thank you for sharing your story, I send you blessings of love

[@brandonnotsowise2640]

Idk what it is exactly about Zeena, but she absolutely exudes intelligence and thoughtfulness in the way she speaks and recounts the history of the religion and her family. Her intellect combined with Dr. Peterson’s makes this a fascinating interview.

[@carbon1479]

She was already intelligent and then she had to rebuild herself from the ground up. Those two things together would do it.

[@LL-wc4wn]

I feel like she is saying a lot without communicating much. I wanted to know about some of the stuff she knew as an insider. I learned she is a Buddhist and her parents were narcissists/psychos. Most of the whole interview is her repeating she was branded and cant escape her past. Yawn.

[@LL-wc4wn]

She didnt say much

[@UnknownUnknown-tu3be]

I was extremely disappointed as an analytical guy that she consistently stayed on the edge and Peterson didn't want to push her. I didn't like her aura.

[@kaitlynkarol4600]

@@UnknownUnknown-tu3be- Exactly. She was saying some kooky things too - at one point even said that her gma didn't divorce her g-father til after he was dead...what?? How do you and why would you - divorce someone if they're dead?? He is controlled opp for the far R puppet masters and few ppl are awake to this. He just let her take over his interview. He had no control and there was real friction and tension here in a talk that should have been a pro interview based on the exchange of Q and A in a dialogue-driven manner. But JP is owned by the idiot slaves who own them at Daily Wire - Conservative INC. Let's not forget these are controlled ppl trying to control a narrative that was really made to do damage control for the church of Satan - to whitewash them and make them not sound so 'evil', so the title was absolute BS click bait. They lazily satisfied the dumbed-down masses who don't do their own research or have any real curiosity. Can't believe how ppl didn't catch how they both referenced the McMartin preschool kids who were raped - and denied it! All b/c Satanists were to blame - and they were the ones who molested the kids! Anyone who researches that case for real knows this fact! But JP almost got sent to a 'deprogramming camp' in Canada for standing up for his freedom of speech, (which he should have done but that is not the point) so he plays along instead as a good lil shill and does what his puppet masters tell him to do online now. Ironically he speaks of LeVey as a circus performer but Peterson plays the role of 'fixer' and 'damage controller' for the elite Satanists who run this world. He performs as their dutiful puppet as he also at the same time, blames them for their narcissism. This way, no one will suspect he is an accomplice of sorts doing their dirty work for them in the media like this. But he too is a kind of narcissist who virtue signals to cover it up. He's very talented at covering up the cover up's! To me, he may as well be in a 're-education camp' as to be this kind of liar! Denying the events of when INNOCENT CHILDREN get raped is worse than denying the Holocaust! This is desperate, dastardly and spineless cowardice beyond belief and beyond acceptance!!!!! Anyone who follows or is a fan of JP after this is either insane or very naive -- or both.

[@HeavenScent2110]

Zeena is a beautiful woman. I’m Christian faith but I have heard stories from ex Satanists. Zeena has lived a full life and I find it sweet she’s protecting animals too. We can’t help what family we are born into or what our parents do. We can only choose our own path

[@andrewmiles3378]

She is a vixen! Be very careful.

[@elvia3068]

So true 😔

[@DeflatingAtheism]

Yes. With all due respect with Dr. Peterson, I would have appreciated a discussion of what LaVey actually believed- or at least of what Zeena believed Anton actually believed- front loaded into this discussion to properly contextualize what comes afterwards. She describes it as a psuedo-religion, a carnival act, and a high-society cocktail party, which are true but inadequate descriptors. It’s worth noting that membership in fraternal orders and “secret societies” was also common for men of the time, even if all they conspired to do was to go bowling on the weekends (even Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble were members of a secret society!) What I’ve read from Zeena in the past is that she believes _her father believed_ he was merely pantomiming Satanism- he was a LARPer, to use the modern parlance- when in fact he was messing with very real and very dark forces. What this means in the context of Zeena’s present beliefs- and peeling back the onion layers of what was believed to be hokum, what was believed to be real, and what is actually real- would have been the prerequisite discussion for me.

[@hauntedireland9237]

Sounds like the sons of satan, no?

[@katjay3125]

Yes..this is word salad...saying nothing of truth

[@EveMcLainNewsom]

One of the most fascinating conversations I've watched in years. I remember Zeena from many years ago when she was still active in her father's church. I'm so happy to see her liberated and joyful. ♥️♥️♥️

[@peacemaker3156]

These minion level 'breaking free' satanists who obviosuly still work for the land stealing highest order of satanists(seeds of perdition/war-like, multitrillionaires), will never say 'Creator of all creation and things true Son Tree of life's nature way is how Creator intended His human being children thru His Son way to live and love one another, under His real natural laws of love and kindness, sharing mother earth and all medicine she offers like family does together from good heart-mind connection up to Creator's way only(NOT $$$ false way). How come they don't ever say openly about TREE OF LIFE'S RETURN(Revelation22 the ending) is happening presently????????

[@Peekaboo5819]

Joyful??

[@oooUtube]

Dr. Peterson, you weren't kidding when you said at the end that you barely scratched the surface. I could have watched this for another 2 hours. Excellent interview!! Thanks to both of you. What an incredibly sad but interesting life story you had Ms Zeena Schreck. Thank you for sharing. God bless you. ❤🙏

[@lizziemathespeed1215]

I felt the same

[@Samira-k4t]

I think Mrs. Schreck is one of the most impressing Woman I was able to listen to. Thanks for sharing parts of your life and thoughts. ❤❤❤

[@stevewilliams8193]

May God bless JP with strength and continuous wisdom, the world needs him.

[@truthdefenders-]

"the world needs him"? For what exactly?

[@alienalien9782]

I feel so much gratitude for this interview to be taken place in such a profound ethical way. Thank you Dr.Peterson thank you Zeena for the opportunity to experience such interactions. Blessings for both and for the rest of you supporting this platforms.

[@gingerjones111]

I met her once in Germany over 10+ year ago. Very kind, very genuine lady. She sounds very stressed in this interview discussing the past, and it reflects the trauma her parents both put upon her and their children. No wonder with two narcissistic and hedonistic parents. Very happy to hear that she is doing well and can reflect on her childhood now with wisdom and insight. Ironically, I also met her ex-husband Nick Shreck in London about 5 years ago at a speaking event. Very well spoken, kind and gracious. Both just lovely people.

[@ruckercarlson6229]

These newspeak modernist cover up terms is not gonna help the people gripped by satan. They need help expelling him, only through Jesus Christ.

[@markschwartz7480]

Are we sure this is a woman? If I'm wrong I'm sorry, but Zeena looks very much the man trying to be a woman.

[@AlisaDashaPowerBlackwoodsBriga]

That's incredible I always wanted to meet any of them..lol.and veryshocked to hear how negative it was on her,,never would of known

[@kodevicious]

I met her son several years back who has since passed away. He felt abandoned by his mother who up and left the country. He still held his grandfather Anton in high regard and practiced his teachings but I believe his mother Zeena chose the right path to walk away from the teachings of embracing the ego. Sorry her son whom I met never found that path. RIP.

[@hout00gje]

I've watched '50 voices' first, with horrific testimonies. Now come across this video. Seems darkness is coming to light. No room for evil in this world anymore. Love and peace.

[@caseygrace9363]

Gratitude to our host for creating the space for this discussion. Abundant gratitude to Zeena for courageously sharing her story. Having escaped a 70s-cult-soaked-family myself, my heart joins with Zeena in the message that one can choose to leave and live the life of one's choosing.

[@Roseberrylove]

I love how she actually tells us about her life so nicely some people are so rude on your show and it makes me mad.

[@Connor-j7l]

Grow up miss nicey nice.. Its truth thats important..not being nice.

[@juanyanez2531]

​Says who? who TAUGHT you that dumb idea you now repeat like some chatty parrot. What is truth? Please, enlight us, you sure have such profound thoughts. Can'tvwait to read you@@Connor-j7l

[@TinyBudha]

Sometimes soft spoken person on the surface with sweet Demeanour can be the evil one. And the rough spoken brawlic person is actually the good guy. Don’t fall for surface level nonsense. It’s the content and character that matters. Always judge on actions, not words

[@kaloncar]

Funny, I have watched almost all of his interviews and cannot place any one of them as particularly rude. Maybe some perspectives bristle you, but that is how you and I grow. Keep listening, I'll bet you will grow more if you remain open and seek truth over personal pride.

[@ramonarickettez]

I like how he’s actually letting her talk. 🤷‍♀️

[@SallySockPuppet]

I'm very impressed with Ms. Schreck, a very intelligent person with a very observant mind. I liked what she brought to the table, an insight into the CofS that I never knew existed. Thank you to both of you for not just sitting down together, but for also allowing us to come along. I'll be praying for both of you!!

[@brotherurth1625]

I think this is the first time I’ve seen Dr Peterson just have to listen because Zeena knows herself so well. Her understanding of what has made her the woman she is, was so insightful. A truly remarkable individual, and a truly remarkable interview.

[@allenandrews2380]

Check out his interview with Mary Harrington too.

[@ngrnmck]

I can’t describe the pain I felt listening to her and hearing what she has been through. I had a crazy childhood myself and very disturbing relationship with my dad. I understand her desire to go towards Buddhism. I just pray she looks into Jesus. I so want to send her my love and pray for her healing.

[@A1trizzy]

I had a hard life also but I didn't run to the devil it's backwards

[@ngrnmck]

@@A1trizzy I thank God I wasn’t brought up by the head of the satanic church being taught since I could understand words that this was their god. I can’t imagine a child seeing the wicked things she saw and the coldness of what her father called love. I pray God opens her eyes and she sees the Truth.

[@mekamekaella]

Amen. Very nice comment and God bless you and cover you in the blood of Jesus❤

[@HeavensDor]

She having hard time talking complete thoughts n wanders off topic in choppy kind of way. 60s alot of drugs Hard to believe her father not doping while writing for Satans evil to destroy the Holy before their time so evil lives longer.

[@LivingInTheKaliYogurt]

​@A1trizzy she didn't run to the devil, bro 😂 she was raised in a Satanic household, very different. And she eventually broke free from the toxic family that taught her that.

[@Fedup1234]

What a really genuine guy Peterson is, a great interview with a very strong woman who has had such a 'more than interesting' life. These sort of interviews are really making Peterson part of the normal daily diet of thought provoking discussions

[@77picklehead]

Jordan, thank you for inviting Zeena to share her story. It gives hope that with consciousness and determination we can remove ourselves from circumstances which seem inescapable, and furthermore, grow and thrive with compassion. You have my respect and compassion too now Zeena. With love and gratitude for sharing your new life. 🤗

[@ellehcim1022]

As a person who suffers from PTSD, thank you for sharing your story. It must be so hard to talk about this trauma. We don’t choose our families. They didn’t deserve her. I can’t imagine having to find myself coming from this dark place. Praying for you 🙏

[@renayeblack5906]

I am praying for Zeena, also. All things work together for good for The Good Lord and His people. ✝️

[@Neon-jn3sp]

Zeena articulates herself very well. Thankyou for this. Much more relevant than people would like to admit.

[@olivelivesmatter]

Thank you for posting this. Zeena is on quite a journey of faith. So glad for her that she escaped the trauma that almost took her life. This was very enlightening. I wish her well. May this journey lead her to a profound relationship with Jesus Christ. ❤❤❤

[@renayeblack5906]

So, beautifully said. And I completely agree with you. Zeena's destiny is in Heaven with The God of our universe and His perfect Son,, Who paid the price for all of us to get to live in bliss, eternally. ✝️🕊

[@Davido50]

❤ 🙏🏻 ❤ 🙏🏻 ✝️

[@annareilly4721]

I’m am admittedly a big fan of JBP but this was an excellent interview. He asked such compelling questions and Zeena did so well. She has clearly done a LOT of work since leaving that chapter of her life. Just look at the comments from this video!!!! Usually the comment section is to be avoided but my goodness!!!! This video has elicited such amazing thoughts and accounts from peoples lives. This is what we all need,… good examples of how to listen, respect, and acknowledge one another.

[@ValerieLockhart]

So glad to hear this discussion. ♥️ Thank you, Zeena, for being willing to share!

[@ciaraskeleton]

THE Zeena Schreck? I dont usually dabble in JP content but I will be sitting down to watch this. Im so excited to hear from Zeena.

[@OpsReitia]

Me too, I strongly disagree with Peterson, most often than not, and I think I know why he is platforming her of all people. But nonetheless Zeena is such an interesting individual that you wonder what she is going to answer. I love how she gently and politely dismantles some of the assumptions Peterson tries to establish in the intro, beginning by Satanists are not all "let loose" hippie kinda people. And I've only begun watching. Glad Peterson's fandom gets exposed to her.

[@youthmanrecords420]

The average woman doesn’t have the intelligence to comprehend most JP content. It’s up to you to change that going forward.

[@youthmanrecords420]

@@OpsReitiawhat would you possibly have to be opposed to Peterson ? He makes perfect logical sense about %98 of the time. His out look on most topics are observations that are based in fact anyone can see. He never goes off feelings or frivolous thoughts. You make no sense

[@Mojojojo85757]

@@OpsReitiawell don’t forget that she had a choice whether or not to be “platformed” by him. And if you’re so against so much of what he says, you’re only furthering his agenda by viewing and commenting … but I digress. Clearly you must watch him enough to know how much of his rhetoric you do and don’t agree with.

[@zerodivider4333]

Can I just say THANK YOU to Zeena and Dr. Peterson. There are many aspects of my upbringing, quite negative, directly related to the Satanic Panic. I was sent to a homeless shelter as a teen because I had an Ann Rice book and a heavy metal tape. Was letting demons in the house, you know. This interview is part of my journey and healing as well. THANK YOU both immensely.

[@emune1111]

"being lost is a blessing".. true, when i was in my spiritual journey and finding my self. great conversation and god bless zeena and anyone "lost" but not giving up

[@laraoneal7284]

Zeena comes from such a complicated family dynamic. It is so hurtful coming from this horribly toxic environment. So much of her upbringing resonates with me bc my family of origin is so similar.

[@jasoncompton1625]

I’m sorry to hear that. Find peace in Jesus. His yoke is easy and his burden is light.

[@xl4196]

I highly doubt that.

[@Web3WondersUS]

Zeena - I will pray for your continual growth toward God. God bless you, and thank you for sharing your journey. I will pray for your soul. 🙏

[@kevinclegg9867]

@@Web3WondersUS I pray for her, she has fallen for one of the devils oldest trick. She has chosen a gentle and peaceful path to eternal death in hell.

[@Nexionlink999]

Why'd you leave the keys upon the table? Here you go create another fable, you wanted to Grab a brush and put a little make-up, you wanted to Hide the scars to fade away the shake-up, you wanted to Why'd you leave the keys upon the table? You wanted to I don't think you trust In my self-righteous suicide I cry when angels deserve to die Wake up (wake up)

[@tiffanyjones892]

@Nexionlink999 Science has failed our world, science has failed our mother earth. Science fails to recognize the single most potent element of human existence, letting the reins go to the unfolding is faith, faith, faith, faith. Spirit moves through all things.

[@y2ksurvivor]

​​@@Nexionlink999terrible song lol. imagine thinking system of a down is profound.

[@lapisexulis]

​@@tiffanyjones892🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@doofymalamute5835]

I love how much she is willing to interject and keep things framed in her experience.

[@charliedaniels1]

It was evidence of her narcissistic personality. She would not let Jordan Peterson finish a thought without interjections and she refuted Peterson’s psychoanalysis because she wanted control of the conversation.

[@theartistjodievans]

We have no idea what they each agreed to as far as negotiating this interview. She may be keeping him on a track they agreed to. Or, she may be somewhat of an inadvertent narc just because she was raised by some. It’s not for us to judge.

[@yuyuhakutube]

Just enjoy the conversation guys, that's all it is. Don't try to psychoanalyze either participant.

[@dinosaur___7209]

@@charliedaniels1No lol she wasn't letting him talk over her and define her own experiences. She was making herself clear.

[@vaekkriinhart4347]

​@@charliedaniels1 my impression of her wasn't good either. There's a word or two for her type. I would not want to know her

[@seancannon231]

I learned so much from this interview. Zeena is an incredibly articulate and enlightened being; what a curious karma to have started off in life the foundation that was her experience in the CofS to her mature years having become a student of Buddhism. Talk about "full circle". I really admire her

[@robertrhaine9290]

my parents fled their religious parents and community, to pursue their own hedonistic, hippy lifestyle in another part of the country far away from view. I have spent most of my life trying to fix and correct myself from the terrible habits, values and ideals that i was exposed to. Mr. Peterson has been my personal enlightenment and probably savior. I have matured and am coming back to the lord every day. my deepest thanks Mr. Peterson

[@AnyaAnnika67]

Conversely I was raised in a very toxic Christian household with a lot of emotional & sometimes physical abuse in the name of Jesus. I saw irreligious households who had such a wholesome upbringing. Not that you implied this but I don't think we can equate hedonism with atheism. There's toxicity in all walks of life.

[@robertrhaine9290]

@@AnyaAnnika67 thanks for your message. The problem for me with my parents default to hedonistic ideals was that they failed in their parental responsibilities to raise me in a structured way that would instil some sort of normal values in me. I then was terribly abused by my father and also became a delinquent adolescent. I have spent most of my life trying to figure out what was wrong with me and then how to try and fix myself. Thanks for your support 😁

[@nellieivanova6443]

I pay to my Father in heaven , the king of kings and Lord of lords , in the name of Jesus Christ , my saviour , that Zeena is touched by God and set free from the deception of any fouls religions . Amen

[@resinartbycatherine6314]

Amen! I just send this link to my sister and said great she's gotten out of Witchcraft but into another form of witchcraft. Praying for her salvation❤

[@panno16]

Yes, please let's pray and agree that she would see this loving Savior that can truly set her free. In Jesus' name.

[@Cross-Examine]

Amen 🙏🏻.

[@macrinavalenzuela831]

In agreement praying 🙏

[@LifeLifemoreAbundantly]

In agreement with your prayer. Only Christ can save. Matthew 18:20 “For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.” Romans 10:9 “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”

[@johnnyeverest9756]

Wonderful woman. I'm going through the worst time of my life right now. And I'm lost, but as Zeena said, being lost can be a great blessing. It hurts, but it shows me the truth about myself. May God keep her in His care and our Holy Mother Mary protect her always 🙏🏻

[@VoiceAndPianoByChristaFord]

Jesus said that he has come to seek and to save the lost! If you've repented of your sins to Jesus Christ and walk in relationship with him daily call Ma he has been forgiven your sins and you are on his path through the gates of heaven. Claim Jesus because he is the savior, he is yours and my savior.

[@johnnyeverest9756]

@@VoiceAndPianoByChristaFord It's not that simple, not so fast. There is also penance, compensation for evil and fasting. There is still purgatory and suffering. But its all for good.

[@MichaelValverde-y4g]

CATHOLICS talk to dead spirits,read ur bible, about talking to the the dead ,rebellion is witchcraft 😮

[@johnnyeverest9756]

@@MichaelValverde-y4g Sure, but what does this have to do with what I wrote?

[@kellytilghman710]

​@user-rd1nu3fz5n WRONG!!! Catholics create a circle of prayer with people who live forever in heaven and are alive in Christ!

[@Shetshow]

Wow! She is so centered. I feel an immense compassion for her and I’m drawn to her example of composure after such a difficult journey of self-discovery and awakening. I’m so happy she exists as proof that we are capable of integrating the shadow within ourselves even faced with seemingly impossible circumstances. Beautiful in every sense. Great interview. I’m inspired. 👏❤️

[@Vishfeast]

Jordan, I hope you know that you have helped mold my brain and become the man I am today. I appreciate your teaching in psychology and it has inspired me so much in the way i see the world. I appreciate your wisdom and "tough" teachings of life.

[@trevconn123]

It breaks my heart to hear how much the Church of Satan has caused her to hold disdain for all “Abrahamic Religions” including Christianity. When God commanded us to love our enemies, that includes those that are lost, even those practicing Satanism or esotericism. Christians should NEVER threaten the lives of ANYONE regardless how twisted their worldview may be. Truth without Love is mean. Love without Truth is meaningless.

[@BeeBlot]

I live the last sentence you wrote. I understand why she feels that way. Many self proclaimed Christians do truly horrible things.

[@AnyaAnnika67]

You make a valid point albeit I see many self righteous people even in this comments section praising the Lord etc, many of which probably proclaim to follow Jesus's teaching but are intolerant towards others religions, atheists etc or simply those who hold another world view. I grew up in a very toxic Christian household where emotional abuse was committed in the name of Jesus & saw irreligious children who had a wholesome upbringing. Toxicity is not confined to irreligious sects alone 😊

[@mrmeaner3002]

This woman is a liar and from the father of lies.

[@charliedaniels1]

@divine.defined.sthetics9876Who said Christians aren’t allowed to judge? Then how does a Christian discern sin-if they are not allowed to judge? If you’re talking about Matthew 7:1 then you need context and include all of Matthew chapter 7 where Jesus goes on to talk about being a hypocrite. Don’t take the sawdust out of your brother’s eye without first taking the plank out of your own eye. Many people throw out Matthew 7:1 as a “gotcha” scripture without putting it into context. It is absolutely okay for a Christian to condemn the behavior of another Christian that uses violence to destroy their enemies. That’s why in Matthew 18 Jesus gives instruction about how to kick an evildoer out of the church (which takes judgment and action). I would argue that the baseball bat offenders were not “Christians” in the first place because that’s not what Christ teaches.

[@danerasmussen6468]

⁠@@BeeBlot many non Christians do horrible things. Just bc someone is a Christian doesn’t mean they’re not tempted with sin just like everyone else. There’s a supernatural war going on that we cannot see. Satan attacks Christians just as much or more than the Athiest. But “he who is in you is stronger than he that is in the world”

[@AFringedGentianToEnnien]

I have just finished the Daily Wire section and I ended up feeling so much better about Zeena. She has a found joy and peace and healing. She has a beautiful life now. Dr. Peterson so put her at her ease that she lightened up and relaxed and opened up to him. It was absolutely beautiful and I think it was healing for her.

[@dianamarie1652]

There is only peace through Jesus

[@melindaroop1346]

​@@dianamarie1652Don't speak on things you don't understand or people you don't know. Some of us found true peace through other religions/spiritualities.

[@dianamarie1652]

@@melindaroop1346 but Iam speaking truth

[@dsoule4902]

Her message, her opening statement, is one of hope.

[@KadandEve]

@@melindaroop1346 she is speaking on things that she understands as a person who thought they found peace in other religions until you actually give Christ a try. You will continue to think that chaos and uncertainty is peace. Either that or your ignorance is bliss , I however, I have worked my way up in all types of theologies until I came back to Christ and gave him an actual try. Did I know that everything else was a lie Or part of the truth and not the truth.

[@calhughes333]

Thank you Dr. Peterson for your time and dedication as well. I find your interviews exciting and expanding. Zeena Schreck thank you for this interview with Dr. Peterson. I didn't know who you were nor anything about the Satanism church until this interview. What i am trying to say Zeena is you did inspire hope in me. I appreciate both of you and all that you do. sincerely, Cal Hughes

[@sheenasmith2583]

This is one of the best interviews this year. Please interview Zeena again. There are almost no intelligent interviews of children of psychopaths. Thank you Zeena for sharing your story so honestly.

[@maximusvangoe1185]

She has great emotional intelligence as well.

[@FirstNameLastName-cw3ug]

Agreed, this felt almost too short

[@hauntedireland9237]

She’s a psychopath herself you’re just too idiotic to realise!

[@joeler1182]

Agree, I would like to ask her why, although she says she have abandoned satanism, in her store she sells a t-shirt ('The Original') with a photo of herself with baphomet in the background. It seems as if she hasn't really left all the past behind, which I've generally seen people do when they leave satanism and no longer want to have anything to do with it by throwing away any photos, materials or references to it. So I was a little perplexed when I saw this shirt for sale on her website.

[@hauntedireland9237]

@@joeler1182 because she’s a liar, the progeny of the father of lies. Not her earth-bound pops… her everlasting one. So so many blatant lies and still diabolical utterings from this one. Dia (the Latin to ‘rend’) and boline (the Latin for ‘apart’)… so to be Diaboline, or diabolical means to literally tear apart all that good. That’s this chick to a gold-plated tee… I say ‘plated’, mind you… and I mean it. Brassy as that hair

[@kickdragon]

This should be interesting ❤I just heard the most amazing story about her sister's redemption and something I never knew about her father's death. I hope Zeena also comes to know Yeshua🙏❤🙌🙌🙌God is amazing!

[@HiddenInPlainSight386]

haven't heard about Karla, Karla saved?

[@kadoshlife]

That interview that is floating around on many channels is false. I emailed Zeena and one of her assistants that schedules her interviews promised me this is not a true family member of Anton Levay. I also know that pastor and his family. And that woman DJ/Rey Rey Still practices magic. And her daughter is a satanic artist. There are some major lies coming out of that church Glad Tidings. Dave Bryan is a Freema$on.

[@mysteryandmeaning297]

Karla gave an talk supporting satanism in oct 2023. Where you hear she christian now. I not think it true

[@msprettypinkpanther6142]

@@HiddenInPlainSight386Ray Ray. She now goes by Debra Joy Bryan.

[@kw25627]

I'm a Christian, but I have really enjoyed this discussion. I look forward to the follow up. Zeena, you are very courageous!

[@robertgallagher2226]

she has a hard time staying on-topic

[@mrizzle58]

lol many of us are Christians and enjoy this discussion. Nothing to shy about

[@Savagemode09]

so did I hope she has clurage to speak more

[@kw25627]

@@robertgallagher2226 I suspect it is because she has so much to share and a short amount of time to say it.

[@Anon-o7y]

This was such an interesting and thought-provoking interview. I am not a Satanist, in fact, I’m a newer Christian, only a year younger than Zeena, but a lot of what you both have said during this interview caused me to reflect on my heavy childhood wounds and the scapegoating of myself from my family of origin, all because I once stood up for the truth. Thank you so much.

[@bettastorms1462]

I personally knew Anton and Zeena. I'm glad she has found some path that is peaceful. Life changes us all whether we want it to or not.

[@ragnarkisten]

I never expected Zeena to be interviewed by Peterson!

[@katjay3125]

Controlled opposition

[@digitalnomad9985]

@@katjay3125 No need to introduce yourself.

[@Candylady-jb6md]

Unlike zeena I will walk with Lucifer until the day that I die

[@HiHoSilvey]

@@Candylady-jb6md ... which is fast approaching. Open your eyes before it's too late.

[@Candylady-jb6md]

@@HiHoSilvey My eyes are already open my third is too I have found peace in witchcraft I'm proud to be a witch and if I have to burn at the stake then burn me

[@cloudbloom]

"The catastrophic underbelly of immature hedonism" Perfectly stated, JP

[@AurielArizola]

And boatloads of infantile grandiosity and selfishness.

[@FlaneurCreatif]

Describes Kamala Harris

[@polw3785]

Zeena’s eyes do not have the peace and joy that only Christ can give. Thanks for presenting this.

[@colleenbrotherton2266]

Very astute. I agree. The only (true) peace a person can have in life, is the person who knows Christ and has a personal relationship with Him.

[@antonionoctifero-digitalar4357]

Oh, you mean like Dr. Peterson's eyes? Are they full of "peace" and "joy"? 🙄

[@anniesok868]

Little does she know that she's still worshipping Satan, just via a different route.

[@princecharming4708]

I agree fuck Buddha

[@point1415]

Please don’t judge. Some of us introverts just have that countenance, and it’s hurtful to be imposed upon that we don’t check all the inspection boxes.

[@JesuslovesuAda]

Ex buddhist turned believer in Jesus Christ! I pray she encounters the true God amen God bless her

[@mannafromthefatherministries]

Amen!!!

[@dianapaventi]

Amen

[@leswehman11]

Praise God brother or sister in Christ!!! I am so happy (and smiled so big when reading your comment)that you are saved and welted Jesus as your Savior!! God bless you!!

[@jasminehouston-burns1691]

Amen.

[@AngieS_91]

Yes, amen!

[@PaulVanderKlay]

"The 70s were where the 60s went to die." Great line. :)

[@gabrielethier2046]

Also not original

[@joejoe809]

True

[@thunderwolfcz9499]

Paul what are your feelings about this? It feels very odd. In particular her mention early of love for her father, then correcting herself and fear of losing her child, yet very little was said of the child. I get why Jordan wouldn't go there, I assume its again an offspring of her spiritual molestation. But she avoided it entirely. And she still carries the wolf guy's name. (hope you cover the dailywire, won't watch it)

[@amandaosowski4739]

Yeah it’s pretty telling of our nature how quickly the “free love” thing turned into completely being slaves to our lust and we’re still suffering the consequences and probably always will, kind of a Pandora’s box situation

[@All_love_to_algeria]

I love you🩷I love you🩷I love you🩷

[@_good_vibes_oasis]

Appreciate listening to this non confrontational conversation with your guest. Your professional thoughts combined with the freedom to openly share her experiences made this interview interesting.

[@kaitlynkarol4600]

It was confrontational - but not to her but to his audience. He lied to us profusely about the McMartin kids being raped by Satanists. This is what this interview was all set up to be about. This was their target. They did it passively-aggressively but they did it just the same. Dispicable!

[@seariousjones]

Thank you for an unbiased unmotivated and real interview and conversation, You are appreciated- both of you. Jordan B Peterson and Zeena Shreck. An intelligent, non judgemental, honest conversation and Q&A session. Respect and Love to you both.

[@PhilAlumb]

Zeena seems like a genuine and clear person. Very interesting discussion.

[@richlisola1]

Ms. Schreck is a talented artist and musician and an unbelievably empathetic woman-I’m glad she’s found a measure of peace and clarity after such an uncanny and gaslit childhood

[@hauntedireland9237]

Please, she’s as narcissistic as her dear old daddy and mommy!

[@richlisola1]

@@hauntedireland9237 Wow, a compelling argument you made there. 👏

[@hauntedireland9237]

@@richlisola1 I can grow a brain for, you infernal scourge!

[@katjay3125]

100 percent

[@philcurtis314]

She does not use Schreck at all anymore, she just goes by Zeena.

[@clarissabe1786]

Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”

[@danawelch3985]

Matthew 11:28

[@JagadguruSvamiVegananda]

Good Girl! 👌 Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

[@somexp12]

Kinda weird how accepting that 90+% of humanity will burn forever is something that brings you "rest." That burden is only "light" if you are a sociopath. Says something rather unflattering about your character if you are willing to accept such a horrific fantasy just to alleviate a petty existential crisis.

[@avranju]

@@somexp12 That verse absolutely does not say that. I would suggest reading that in context for yourself. I am all for healthy debates but knocking down a strawman does no one any favour. What brings rest is Christ, not the acceptance of some idea of hell that you propose. The burden is light because of who is on the other end of the yoke, which is Christ, not because of, again, some conception of hell. You seem to have a distaste for a caricature of Christianity. If you're going to criticise, please do yourselves the dignity of criticising the genuine article.

[@clarissabe1786]

@@somexp12 I agree with you that this is an evil thing and I DO NOT accept that lie from the devil. Our view of God and His character has been so warped that we are blinded when reading scripture. It’s not until we read the red letters of Jesus that we see love and who our Heavenly Father really is. He loved us since the beginning and His love for us has not changed . We did. Truth will set you free. God only wants to destroy the lies satan makes us believe about him and the old person we were when we believed satans Lies. Sin did not change God. Sin did not change Gods love for us. Sin changed us. Sin changed our belief, faith, love and trust in God. Jesus HEALS our hearts and leads us back to the Father by showing us his Love for us. The red letters in the story of Jesus will show you Our Father and his Love. We have forgotten how to Love because we have forgotten our Heavenly Father. Yet He still Loves us. It’s hard to believe and understand how can He still Loves us despite what we’ve done in our lives but that’s who he is. God is LOVE. We think others need to earn our love, deserve our love…and we think God is the same way, we have to earn/ deserve His Love, but he loved us since the beginning and His Love for us has NOT changed. No amount of Good works will make Him love us more. No amount of bad we HAVE done will make Him Love us LESS. The Good things we do, we do because we Love Him not because we think he will Love us more. 7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. 8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. 15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God. 16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. 2Co 3:14-16: “But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away”. 1 John 4:18 “There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment/punishment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.” 2 Timothy 1:7 “For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.” Hebrews 2:14-15 “Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.” Romans 8:14-15 “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.” John 8:12 “Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.” 1 John 1:5 “This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all.” Proverbs 4:19 “The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.” Acts 26:18 “To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.” 1 John 2:9 “He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.” 2 Corinthians 6:14 “Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?” Job 10:22 “A land of darkness, as darkness itself; and of the shadow of death, without any order, and where the light is as darkness.” 1 John 1:6 “If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:” Matthew 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

[@corrieaaron9679]

This was so interesting. Zeena is very well spoken and thoughtful 🤍✨ Thank you for sharing 🙏🏼✌️

[@RNFORLAW]

This was outstanding please do a part 2 . I pray she find the peace and joy of Christ. Sad she had no choice in the matter.

[@darthnihilus511]

We are not all there is, Evil and Good are not concepts, prayer works, Christ is King.

[@canUfeelMYface]

Not concepts? Then what are they?

[@canUfeelMYface]

@@Fenriz1222 I don't know why you thought I was asking you.

[@darthnihilus511]

@@canUfeelMYface they are the literal definition of two very real, very prevalent forces enacting upon us in our daily lives incognito.These aren’t literary abstractions. All of us know the difference instinctively…. Assign any title you wish, but it all comes down to God and Satan What side are you on?

[@canUfeelMYface]

@@darthnihilus511 Thank you for explaining.

[@AurielArizola]

The profundity of our prayers make us realize how more real the spiritual realm is compared to the outer world.

[@porshp8941]

Thank you Mr Peterson for your patience in this interview. You've demonstrated great restraint and change in your conversational style.

[@emmamacgregor731]

Excellent interview. Well done, Dr. Peterson and Zeena. I hope you interview Elon Musk again with this style.

[@davidlosers]

What an amazing interview! At first I thought that at two hours it would be too long but it wasn’t enough! That final segment about the ritual she performed was unexpected , and I admit I chuckled a little.

[@JoaoOliveira-rk8gv]

You can clearly see Jordan is listening more after the elon interview. It is way better. Thank you Jordan for your effort! It makes a difference!!

[@AFringedGentianToEnnien]

This episode was taped a week BEFORE the Elon interview.

[@Razzaq585]

You must understand, elon musk isnt just anybody, J.P was kinda hurried there, shit happens.

[@hectic3036]

Yes, he did a great job.

[@NightLetterLondon]

@@Razzaq585 Yes, but view any random 'interviews' by JP and what you find is him talking way more than his guest, asking multiple questions at once, or going on some tirade of his own expounding on his opinions, etc. It is a constant with him, and he doesn't learn. We love him, but this fault of his is real (and pretty much still unaddressed).

[@virginiacharlotte7007]

I swear JBP is tripping in some of his worst ‘interupt all the time’ interviews

[@deidrabillings6651]

He tests the intellect on another level. What a good doc for these generations! 😮🎉

[@LalaChristmas]

What a wonderful interview . I remember seeing interviews with zeena when I was a little girl in the 80s . She always struck me as strong, soft, kind hearted person who was born into the wrong family . Blessings to you Zeena

[@radarada7954]

It was a great interview. Hopefully you two can do another one, so that Zeena could tell us more about her life.

[@laraoneal7284]

Smart that she went no contact from her father. She finally “got it” and disconnected. She had an undeserved loyalty to her father. A loyalty that he never deserved or earned. John Bradshaw called it a fantasy bond with a parent that needs to be broken. It is a bond based on what u think ur parent is when that is not who they really are.

[@izzydeadyet7336]

She also abandoned her own son Stanton, to be raised by his grandparents, Anton and Diane.. she was a young mother, there was always gossip that Anton was the father of his grandson .. i knew Stanton, zeenas son.. she abused and abandoned her own son and left him to be raised by his grandparents.. the same people shes now accusing of abusing her!

[@nathanrota4555]

@@izzydeadyet7336that’s normal everywhere when your young with child. “ it’s not just her case “ that’s all over the world. You call it abandonment. It’s more “ immature”. “ unprepared “. That’s normal all over the world. All over the world

[@mysteryandmeaning297]

​@@izzydeadyet7336 No he passed away

[@VredesStall]

​​@@izzydeadyet7336 In all fairness to her... Zeena was very young when she had Stanton and... tbh... she was never ready or prepared to be a mother. For all of his faults & deceptions as a Carni-showman and a huckster... Anton LeVey at least appears to have been a halfway decent grandfather to his grandson, Stanton (perhaps Anton saw, felt or otherwise knew of his shortcomings & failures as a father and at least tried to make up for it by being a good grandfather... or at least a better one). Correct me if I'm wrong... but didn't Stanton's grandmother (Zeena's mom, Diane Hegarty)... pass away not long after her grandson?? Also, and now that I think on it... who was Stanton's biological father?? Was it that police officer that Zeena mentions earlier in the interview?? Thanks in advance💯

[@RebeccaStone-e8q]

Well spoken. I think the same is true about an abusive ex.

[@theplanetruth1]

Christ is the King of Kings. He is The Truth The Light and The Way. I will pray for her that she finds Him..

[@W45P.]

No christ has ever existed.

[@Nexionlink999]

Npc , zombie, troll army

[@jessepelaez874]

@@W45P.😂 whatever helps you sleep at night buddy

[@paulharrisonadventuregearm5457]

For ALL four of you ...we simply do not know at this point. The certainty with which all of you hold your ground is on very shakey ground. The strongest link we have as to what is spiritually relevant on planet earth is near/actual death experiences. The average of ALL of those accounts ever told would be the strongest indicator of who God is , and what is expected of human beings spiritually

[@W45P.]

@@paulharrisonadventuregearm5457 A nervoussystem collapsing and nothing at all then.

[@daschuhow]

Fascinating conversation. Fascinating what was said and what was left unsaid. Dr. Peterson asked open ended questions skillfully. 1:50:41

[@stevencurry9349]

What a wonderful interview here with Zeena. It appeared to me that Zeena gave a genuine account of her own experience throughout the discussion and that Jordon understood her.

[@GraceTruth29]

Thank you Zeena for being so kind and open about your feelings and life God bless you and protect you

[@jamesg3808]

"I'm not shy. I have nothing to say to you." As an introverted male, that is how I felt all the time growing up. Haha.

[@Greene362]

That’s how I am today. I have a lot to say to certain people. Other people, not much at all.

[@TheNutmegStitcher]

What a survivor! May she come to know Jesus.

[@jockmccormick8573]

why would she wish to re-engage with Christianity, when she has found Buddhism?

[@SMacCuUladh]

@@jockmccormick8573 Because Jesus is the way, the truth and the light.

[@melindaroop1346]

​@@SMacCuUladhNot for everyone.

[@KimSavage]

@@melindaroop1346 - Truth is for everyone.

[@TheWizardSpeaks]

​@@KimSavageand the truth is not Christianity

[@bosmatgu]

I like that Dr. Peterson speaks. I see it as a way to help the guests understand themselves. And as a way for me as a listener to understand myself.

[@victhewrangler]

Im so glad she did this interview and shared such honesty. I was raised in the typical "Christian" religion, but wasn't till years later that i even knew who Christ REALY was. Just like her i just followed and participated in the rituals, I was taught to follow. But i knew not my Lord and Creator. I was raised to know of him and how to pray top him but never really knew him till i cried out to him one day in adult hood. HERE I AM !!! WHERE ARE YOU ??? Things started changing, abruptly in my life. i was shown things in my spiritual understanding no religion, no preacher, no man could have taught me. I started to know and understand who Christ is and why he came to earth, and what he came to accomplish. He came to break us out of this prison we are trapped in. We are on a prison planet run by very evil forces. So much destruction is done in this world built of influence and lies designed and engineered by the lord of this earth (which is Satan), who is not a religion either but is very real indeed ! He has masked and hidden the Truth of God through the facade of religions, to where God is no longer heard nor spiritually seen, by the true spirit and souls he created. So i left the typical religions and dug into the actual prophetic divinely coded Word of God. The TRUTH THAT CAME AND WALKED ON THIS EARTH TO RESUE US. I found that there is no other religion on the face of the earth that has the spiritual power that is actually a real, powerful, merciful being full of a love EXCEPT CHRIST, that we humans are not capable of, at least not until we have come to him in truth to sincerely want to KNOW HIM through the spiritual door of repentance. For God is not a religion. He is a reality and a knowing of Love and understanding of righteous knowledge. For knowledge can be used for evil as well as good and is used for evil on this earth more than for God who is the only truth that can save us from ourselves, our destruction and our egotistical demise on this planet. All religion's are an influential system which contains no reality nor truth. But the prophetic word in scripture is a power beyond our understanding and can only be given to us through a repented humbling heart wiling to come to the throne of our creator, in the name of Jesus Christ so I too had to leave religion but thank God he drew me to him, through Truth. This journey was not overnight, but took years. She is still on her journey and i am happy for her that she has seen the lies of this world. But i pray she will continue to follow the pull that is inside her, to continue her journey toward that pull toward her true creator. Only then will she find true peace joy and love, and her eyes will be finally opened wide. Much love from Texas Zeena. May the Truth continue to pull, guide and protect you on your way back home to life eternally in Jesus Name. xoxo

[@melanieknight8179]

Until she tsorallt denounced Satan she will never know true Happiness. Going from satanic church to buddisim is just a side step... Both follow satan

[@ShyneOn]

WOW !!! Praise Yeshua ! You just spoke every word I've ever thought but couldn't explain to people. That was in incredible . Thank you and glory be to God. Jesus is Lord !! 🙏🙏🙏

[@dslkjvoxicuyhgl4554]

Seeing THIS woman, and remembering the girl with HEAVY makeup, oozing pride, confidemce, and defiance, even before she spoke a singke word, broke my heart, and it all became immediately obvious what was going on. He got me. I feel VERY sorry for her, and it would be a miracle if somehow she found Christianity. We will pray for her.

[@SaltAndVinegarFlavour]

Intelligent, engaging woman, but so haunted by her past. I hope she finds peace and full healing. 🙏

[@SlackJawJack]

Zeenah, you are my hero. To grow up in the environment & live the life that you did, I'm very humbled by your strength of character. Where once you held the opportunity to capitalize on this powerful & niche thing, you chose to walk away, to shut it down, out of your compassion for others. I pray that I can emulate a fraction of your commitment to your morals & virtues to some capacity in my own life. This is truly a great interview.

[@Unfortunateevents-z2d]

I have to say Dr. Peterson, I'm really impressed with your range of guests lately. It reminds me of the "old you" when you were/seemed open to everyone and was curious to learn. Thank you for the beautiful content.

[@autumnleaves2766]

Great interview, Zeena Schreck has a fascinating life story to share. It is good to know that she managed to break away from Satanism and find a new path for herself centred around creative activities and Buddhist meditation and teaching. It must have been a very difficult and dangerous journey at times but she made it and it took courage to do so. The interview was sensitively conducted by Dr Peterson. I'm of both interviewer and interviewee's generation and I remember the ugliness of the 1970s. The male rock stars with their long hair, tight jeans and high voices never appealed to me, they were not in the least bit masculine in looks or voice to my young eyes. The fashions were pretty dreadful too, and the 1970s have been described as "the decade that taste forgot". Films from that era include "The Devil Rides Out", "The Wicker Man", "The Exorcist", "The Omen" and "Rosemary's Baby". Sadly some people will always be drawn into the dark world of Satanism, some younger people may even see it as an act of rebellion.

[@lilly8803]

Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.

[@danawelch3985]

John 14:6

[@melissaelliott2966]

Amen. ❤ praying for her

[@JagadguruSvamiVegananda]

I apologize for shattering your illusions, Slave, but Lord Jesus DIED a couple of millennia ago. 🙄 First of all, Mr. Deluded Religionist, there is no TANGIBLE evidence for the claim that Lord Jesus rose from the dead and ascended to some mythical place called “Heaven”. Words in a book can not prove anything that has occurred in the phenomenal sphere. Words, at best, can only prove abstract concepts. 🤓 Secondly, even if He did, in fact, rise after one and a half days, His body was not the same as the one He had at the time of death (assuming what was written in the Gospels is accurate). In fact, it was SO different, that at least some of His closest disciples were unable to recognize Lord Jesus, even after conversing with their master for several hours.🤔 “After this he appeared in ANOTHER form to two of them, as they were walking into the country.” Mark 16:12. And, obviously, a person IS the physical body (plus consciousness). There is absolutely no evidence of such a thing as a “soul” or a “spirit”.

[@Annakneedtunobasis]

Amen and Amen!

[@Bec_loves_Jesus]

Amen 🙏

[@Holly-yh8me]

This was a great interview. So happy to see Zeana coming to Light . ❤

[@elenacartagena1224]

SUPER interesting interview, thank you for inviting her. And thank you so much Zeena for letting us in ❤