The Assault on Faith, Family, & Science | Dr. Phil | EP 430

Jordan Peterson sits down with clinical psychologist, author, and media mogul Dr. Phil McGraw. They discuss his new book, “We’ve Got Issues,” and from this delve into the three pillars of western society that are now under assault, as well as the 10 working principles he prescribes to defend them. They also discuss how to live with intention, the importance of personal identity removed from outward labels, the difference between questioning and deconstructing, how the establishment failed our children during the pandemic, and the obvious outbreak of social contagions plaguing the world today.
Phillip McGraw, PH.D. is the author of 10 New York Times bestsellers. For 21 seasons he hosted the award-winning talk show “Dr. Phil,” one of the most successful daytime programs in television history. His new book, “We’ve Got Issues - How You Can Stand Strong For America’s Soul and Sanity,” is available now. This April, he hosts “Dr. Phil Primetime,” on his own cable network, Merit Street Media, providing essential news and entertainment. McGraw resides in Dallas, Texas with his wife, Robin. They have two adult sons and four grandchildren.
This episode was recorded on March 1st, 2024
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(0:00) Tour Info 2024
(0:40) Coming up
(0:54) Intro
(3:22) Why we focus on faith, family, and science
(10:37) Acknowledging what we do, do not, and are not meant to know
(15:28) When Jesus met the Pharisees, the central principle
(18:45) We manifest proportional realities to fit our damaged personal truths
(29:58) “My father never said he was proud of me”
(32:38) Be who you are on purpose and live with intention
(35:33) If you’re an immature hedonist…
(38:05) Negotiate toward everyone's best outcome
(42:36) Consciously choose which voices in your life deserve attention
(47:35) Who are you? Getting past the default answers
(49:58) Why your sexual identity is not “who you are”
(54:07) Base your secular thoughts on empirical fact
(1:01:14) It’s incredibly difficult to breach a well structured delusion
(1:05:50) Why change is so hard: “after tyranny waits the desert”
(1:09:30) The difference between questioning and deconstructing
(1:13:05) We don’t all use the same currency, Chris Voss and negotiation techniques
(1:16:28) Bottom up learning, parenting, and relationships
(1:20:57) We screwed up during the pandemic, “hell, Lassie could figure this one out”
(1:25:44) Meritocracy vs. the fringe, the psychopathy of virtualization
(1:31:15) The obvious contagion effect of transgenderism
(1:34:06) It’s more than just silence, the medical establishments complicit and lying
(1:36:30) Governments are creating social contagions via progressive policies
(1:39:38) Why are academics, doctors, and experts backing pseudo-science?
(1:41:11) Dr. Phil is a danger to the mainstream narrative… good.
(1:46:06) Balancing ego with purpose
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[@VeritasIncrebresco]

Find God, Lift weights, eat steaks, learn to negotiate, learn survival skills, read, surround yourself with like minded people, make babies and home school

[@slowbrodragon6951]

Hell yeah!

[@jdk67]

☦️

[@WilliamBierwagen63]

Great post!!!!!

[@BIGMO3707]

My girl will not let our future baby touch a vaccine or a public school. We are in California with a lot of roots in this dying State... your comment resonated because that's how basic our focus has become: family, fitness, and maintaining a small strong network... even moving closer in proximity to each other.

[@pineapplejuice87]

Amen!!

[@danielkruger9572]

Now that was a brilliant line "I'd rather have questions that I can't answer then answers I can't question" beautiful very well said.

[@The_Idea_of_Dream_Vision]

Yet to get to that part but love it.

[@lizdavey9005]

PERFECT😊!!!!

[@jenrich111]

*than - yes it's brilliant Question everything

[@damienpol5215]

“I would rather have questions that can’t be answered than answers that can’t be questioned.” - Richard Feynman

[@kathyfahey5469]

But go further. How abt: "and I will not plug the hole of things I cannot explain (yet) with the magic of the Mythical Man in the Sky"?

[@BBCEmily]

"I'd rather have questions that I can't answer, than answers I can't question" BRILLIANT

[@kekkles117]

That's a very old quote lol. Not an invention of the good Dr by any means.

[@savory_]

Its a Richard Feynman quote. I hear it used often to challenge religious or political dogma.

[@mav7804]

That quote has me bricked up

[@kamkam9510]

Probably the dumbest quote ever. Answers you can't question would be absolute truth no? It would be the only thing that could possibly remain with that logic.

[@savory_]

@@kamkam9510 I think you misunderstand the quote. "Can't question" as in you're not allowed to question it because the government or society or whoever tells you that it can't be questioned.

[@asophia4487]

I appreciate this conversation immensely. As a Canadian trained Registered Nurse who has lived in Australia for 17 years, the registering board AHPRA, Imposed gag orders on health professionals saying anything that veered from the scripted narrative. I was not one who complied. I continued to speak out on informed consent, patient autonomy & advocacy, confidentiality of peoples medical history, and actual health promotion. I was not going to comply with mandated jabs and resigned from my Clinical Nurse Specialist role in addictions. This led to nearly 3 years unemployed, selling my home, living in a van and now moving back to Alberta in hopes of some employment (not in nursing). I've taken no government handouts and live on my savings. This is impacting retirement drastically. I have no regrets having honoured my values as a Registered Nurse and as a person in general. May the collective consciousness rise 💫

[@user-fu4iw5dx3f]

So sad that your bosses didnt recognise you for your stance but you know your value and that's far more important the older you get, good luck!!!

[@leonabarkell1809]

You are a hero!

[@mikimiyazaki]

If you dont stand for something. Youll fall for anything.

[@wwilliams4743]

I pray your diligence and integrity will be rewarded with new employment and prosperity you couldn't have imagined. I wish thousands more professionals like you had taken a stand when we needed them.

[@intibella394]

God protects you and blesses you

[@KikiBoomTown]

It’s refreshing to hear Dr Phil having a discussion with someone intelligent!

[@oliverholst5576]

Because he is a total and utter douchebag

[@Joshua-ej8rm]

He’s a genius, Jordan Peterson that’s. I always assumed without deductive reasoning that he was in it for the ratings. JP is the 100% real McCoy because he isn’t afraid to express himself to the world. He’s the most intelligent man or psychologist I’ve personally ever heard of that’s currently being criticized for what, telling women the truth and they don’t want to ta have to face themselves in that mirror because some people hate who they believe they’re and I’ve seen it a lot in addiction treatment because the drugs play a huge roll in the way you interact with the world. So getting off my medication is a goal I’m proud of saying that I am going on 10 years of being off opiates abs it was mg DOC.

[@debgal26]

I was thinking the same thing! We are used to him talking with people who are not mentally well or intelligent.

[@Aetriex]

I think it's just that they come from the same discipline so they share a vocabulary and feel far more comfortable having a conversation that is unbridled in comparison to when they are speaking to people that don't share the same specialized vocabulary. It's great to see and listen to!

[@tomsheehy1]

You mean American Christians - They like his profound sounding word salad when he talks about religion. @@debgal26

[@Alexa-md2uk]

The multiverse has collided here… never thought I’d see these two together in a video

[@dive2drive314]

Ya I didn't think I would see a sit down conversation between Tucker Carlson and Chris Cuomo either, but here we are...

[@maryjohnston4296]

This is special:)

[@shanemckenzie-wc3mq]

I have Asperger’s and I say, That’s cuz we in trouble!! Yep yep!! Wow!!! I love them both.

[@FranklinFleming-lm1yu]

Up next Elon Musk

[@katrinaparham7708]

Right lol 😂 I am enjoying this timeline❤

[@sarahbean6170]

This interview should have millions of views. Can you imagine if people would actually listen to these two great men what a change it would make??

[@LoveQuestWithLisaConcepcion]

Exactly why KZbin suppresses it

[@wwilliams4743]

I don't believe the view counts at all, especially on videos like this one. I think they're likely much higher than reported.

[@cheapbruh9778]

@@LoveQuestWithLisaConcepcion youtube suppressing it? hahahahahah are you even listening to your own paranoia... what a moron... anyways jordan has a below average IQ and phil is pretty smart, but have been around forever, so its not like what he is saying hasnt been accessible for the last 30 years 🤣

[@yardmama3660]

Thank God we still have logical leaders not afraid of speaking out.

[@MontyKaufman]

Unfortunately, NOT enough political leaders🤷‍♂️

[@daniel_brqlo]

"Thank God" and "logical" in the same sentence is kinda ironic

[@PattiS3]

Getting out from under the thumb of the institutional media will be a great thing for Dr Phil!

[@SueProv]

Yes.

[@TempoLOOKING]

At least he is getting a way from those child molesters in the MSM...look into Operas African orphanages.

[@jackeagleeye3453]

Did Dr. Phil criticize the Republicans for their anti family stance on IVF?

[@rogerdsmith]

Hopefully he’s getting out from under the thumb of Oprah’s influence. It’s been because of her, that he’s had his show.

[@matthewdamone4182]

Same with Jordan I love this

[@DiegoRamirez-uy1xy]

Dr. Peterson and Dr. Phil are among the few men bravely fighting against the evils of this world. Praise God.

[@jamesclark6487]

Kellie-Jay Keen has balls the size of Dr Phil's head. Check her out.

[@tjhammer24]

Wouldn't trust Dr Phil entirely. He's had enough history to show otherwise. Maybe he's on point with this trans and effects on children. But he's shamed men. Virtually said that dv can't happen towards men. Totally caters to Feminists, has tried to set up and trap rollo Tommasi for the countless painful truths he points out... etc

[@eileenhudson4934]

These tw0 man are speaking the truth...and have the guts to ...😊😊the family is under attack .that's for sure .. we must speak up!!!!

[@kathyfahey5469]

I don't trust anybodu who cannot discern right from wrong w/o believing in a Mythical Man in the Sky m

[@SeanWinters]

​​@@kathyfahey5469I don't trust anyone who calls God "man in the sky", as if they have the ability to have morality without Him.

[@jules9465]

Two rational, clear thinking men who stand up for their principles and facts. Thank God.

[@sherryberry4577]

I love when Dr Phil goes off about the kids during covid. He's so right about it and he's the loudest guy in the mainstream bringing awareness to it.

[@holly7937]

Dr. Peterson, I appreciate your firm stance on all of the current craziness from the beginning. Everyone knew where you stood, and the price you've payed, from day one. You've earned alot of respect.

[@piggykhan]

And a LOT of money!!!! Woop woop!!

[@ccloutier1586]

Amen.

[@remyblog7967]

My exact thoughts listening to this. Man is literally from the future

[@njasmus]

@@piggykhanwhile I believe he certainly has earned more than he had before, it certainly wasn’t his motivation to stick up for his freedom of speech. His current income stream is a byproduct of the severe oppression he faced.

[@nickcoker4293]

@@piggykhan he earned every cent and then some. Your comment isn’t clever.

[@Workout726]

Nothing but my utmost respect for these two heroes! As a Christian female in Canada I have felt so discouraged about speaking up for what I believe in as to not make anyone uncomfortable…this interview gave me courage and understanding as to how and why I can speak up for the sake of the next generation! Thank you and God bless you! As a stay at home mom while I do my laundry and clean my home and take care of my family…listening to these incredible great thinkers I feel like I’m getting the best education in the world!

[@sbg4ever120]

I’m praying for you and your family. I’m a dual citizen blessed to be living in the US these days. Be brave for Christ! He will bless and protect you and yours. My heart is breaking as I watch Canada struggling. I’m praying it will be restored and that God will truly keep the land strong and free ❤️🇨🇦🙏

[@ernalockhart6750]

Don’t underestimate the importance of your job being a mum taking care of the family, it’s the most important job in the world, God bless you for that, too few make it a priority, and we reap the result now after at least 4 decades of neglecting the family

[@priscillaholloway8153]

I'm right there with you sister ❤ God bless you and your family.

[@dolanduk7946]

Phil spent 30 years publicly catering to ppl who voted this world in, now that his shows canceled he all of a sudden cares about these issues. Absolute joke

[@tdevry]

​@@dolanduk7946One cannot all of a sudden change one's moral views. By making the accusations you make, you are enabling the cancel culture?

[@mosesmani4073]

Thank God Dr Phil is seeing light!!

[@janetlawson4482]

The statement “Be who you are on purpose “ slapped me right across the face, in the past, when I was working or attending school, I was who I was on purpose, somewhere along the way I stopped. You can’t expect others to treat you with respect if you don’t treat yourself with respect. I need to rewatch this again and fully listen to all of it, thank you both for sharing your thoughts and wisdom.

[@LoveQuestWithLisaConcepcion]

What happened to make it stop?

[@os2386]

Yes please, explain 😮

[@brandypou7590]

It’s so nice to see these two together. I think Dr. Phil had a wake up call and I’m so glad to see him on the side of reality. We need more people speaking up and speaking out against the tyranny of government we are seeing today, all across the world.

[@travelingsober]

He was great on Rogan also.

[@Basbhat]

He’s also not tied to a network anymore so he’s able to more freely speak his mind. Dr. Phil is absolutely fantastic.

[@ogenevieve]

Agreed. I've never known what a great man he is until now. Both of these two men should be part of Trump's team.

[@whokilledjr3719]

He’s always been tied into his show, but I think the fact he’s got grandchildren and the ways thing ms are going, he’s fed up and added his voice

[@albertmaziarz6739]

yours tyranny

[@Musicdudeyoutub]

I'm glad that Dr. Phil found his inner Dr. Jordan

[@iam1smiley1]

Yes, I quit listening to him about 10 year's back because he was going woke ....much better with his new network! I'll be tuning in more.

[@philipsankot8003]

I suspect its partially due to no longer being under the thumb of a legacy media network

[@Nous520]

😝

[@Nous520]

@@iam1smiley1 I’ve never found Dr Phil very woke- I always found I agreed with him and that he’s quite appropriately opinionated. I have no idea what I’ve missed about Dr Phil but I’ve obviously missed something because I’ve seen many people comment the same.

[@Jeremiah2106Gabbard]

Dr Phill, expose Gematria, date numerology and date duraions between rituals and historical events, expose the poisoning of water , air and food, how can you give a guilt trip on the masses, when you understand what is going on and you don't cover the important topics and point at the people instead of your world wide slave system

[@MichelleSears]

Thank you for having this conversation in public. Finally people speaking common sense in public and not scared to do so. We need more of this. No hatred, just honesty.

[@tallgirlhappyme]

*My GOODNESS! This was a FASCINATING discussion. PLEASE do this kind of COLLABORATION together and more often. So INTERESTING. You've EACH met your match! Dr. Peterson, I think you brought out Dr. Phil's BEST and most INTELLECTUAL!*

[@donnastrom9640]

I haven’t ever taken Dr. Phil very seriously …. until today. Now I do. Respect Sir.

[@giga_Lion]

How embarrassing

[@laughinghawk8522]

@@giga_Lion How is your comment helpful or warranted? It's far from embarrassing to take millionaire celebrities serious when they don't do much for society except worship other celebrities, power, fame, and fortune. This is all stuff "Dr." Phil should've been saying on his shows to all those people pushing narratives instead of showcasing freak shows like Jerry Springer did on a not so violent scale.

[@emmaculatemaki7355]

@@laughinghawk8522exactly

[@tjhammer24]

Wouldn't trust Dr Phil entirely. He's had enough history to show otherwise. Maybe he's on point with this trans and effects on children, equal outcome. But he's shamed men. Virtually said that dv can't happen towards men. Totally caters to Feminists, has tried to set up and trap rollo Tommasi for the countless painful truths he points out... etc

[@dolanduk7946]

The dude spent 30 years publicly catering to ppl who voted this world in, now that his shows canceled he all of a sudden cares about these issues. Absolute joke

[@riinareel]

"I would rather have questions I can't answer than answers I can't question." Dr. Phil blew my mind with that one! Honestly, my opinion of him went way up. So glad I took the time to listen to this!

[@matthewsinclair507]

It's quite a common quote

[@hypno5690]

good for you dude. You're above everyone.@@matthewsinclair507

[@richardcarte]

He’s supports child abuse.

[@savory_]

Its a Richard Feynman quote

[@hberrysc3517]

What’s the time stamp on that quote?

[@tinaf600]

I'm so happy Dr. Phil shared his childhood story. I respect his hard work even more. God bless him.

[@olivermasheti525]

What a day to be alive and witness such great minds speak. Thanks Jordan and Dr. phill. You’ve made my day

[@Uncle-Charlie]

This conversation is of so much more worth than what is put on TV on a daily basis!

[@marnieoloughlin9366]

Intense intelligence right here! ❤❤

[@Uncle-Charlie]

@@marnieoloughlin9366 yes! 👍🏻

[@user-sq6xm4fu3t]

TV will not show anything good.

[@Uncle-Charlie]

that is correct! The networks in the country personally are lying disgrace and brainwashing!@@user-sq6xm4fu3t

[@nataliesharpe8071]

I don’t watch tv trash anymore - I try to focus on things like this that will help me learn and grow. Ok we can’t change the world but… we can change what we see and what we focus our efforts and energy on 🙌

[@SweepTheLeg2023]

❤ *“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.* *If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own.* *As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world.* *That is why the world hates you.* John 15:18-19

[@WTHFX]

Could use some omnipotent support these days.

[@pizzapie7]

Is this why my life sucks and I don’t feel any love? I’ve been chosen by God all along??

[@jessemockler616]

​@pizzapie7 if you choose Him too, then yes!

[@Nous520]

Ouuff this gave me chills

[@Nous520]

@@pizzapie7I’m saying this with love so I hope you receive it as intended. If you believe your life sucks, it will continue to suck. If you find the joy in small mercies, your will find great mercy in all the troubles. Your future is of your making, make it one you enjoy living.

[@IawakenedOne]

Most valuable interview I have ever seen in my Life. God help us. We are not well. Thank you Dr. Peterson. Thank you Dr. Phil. There are so few people willing to tell the truth. I cant wait to watch it again.❤

[@jrraider_9118]

Thank you Dr. Peterson and also Dr. Phil for bringing great minds to come to some form of agreement on today’s world topics. I am a man 32 yrs of age and a blue collar plumber in this society not knowing to have kids or not in today’s society gives me hope that you guys are fighting for us and understanding the importance of the world and what it needs.

[@EricKing1976]

It’s such a good relief to see both of you talking about what’s going on today. I’ve been a residential carpenter for 30 years now and I see there’s something wrong happening in the minds of our young people. The world needs both of you. Thank you!

[@thomaspepper2201]

Read above statement I left.

[@garygeorge9648]

People need God.

[@lifeson8362]

Yes sir, you should listen to Adam Carolla 😎🍻

[@r.a5765]

It needs you too.

[@RealziesCuts]

546 days No Alcohol 🥇

[@Nyctonaut]

Congrats, my friend. I'm 5 years 4 months clean from heroin and meth. Life is good, my friend. Keep up the good work!

[@blank_blank007]

I saw a preview of this and when I clicked on the comments section I couldn't find it. I scrolled for almost 10 minutes to find it to like it. Congrats!!

[@joshuawells1808]

Amazing!!!!

[@bradymitten]

Congrats! I’m on year 7 of no alcohol. I never kept track of days nor do I remember the day I quit but I knew the day I stopped I was never going back.

[@wwilliams4743]

Well done! May you have many thousand more clean, sober days ahead of you!

[@patynhacvel]

It’s so refreshing to hear both of them. On Dr. Phil’s show, I understand he keeps his personal feelings to himself (as he should). But seeing these 2 highly intelligent men having a conversation, you really understand what level they are. Massive respect for them.

[@rgerickson]

Mr. Peterson. I’m not that educated. With my years of told 67 year. I do support you and I do agree with all that you say. Stay strong you and your family is in my prayers. May the Lord protect you shine through you and always speak the truth. God Bless Sincerely, Rod Erickson

[@jpguthrie6669]

I never knew this version of Dr Phil, and I am astonished. I had always had a none-too-high opinion of of him, largely because I don't hold television personalities in high esteem. In his defense, he has never been allowed in his television appearances to speak off-script, he was always shown as more of a product than a thinking person. He's a far brighter man than I gave him credit for, and I can't say how happy I am to be enlightened.

[@codycrawford7842]

He's remolding himself into Diet Jordan Peterson to stay relevant after his show ended.

[@sandygray3546]

Please lets have more talks of this caliber!

[@jayhill2193]

@@codycrawford7842 what a fantastic situation when even an abysmally cynical take such as yours fundamentally states a positive change!

[@codycrawford7842]

You can spin it however you like, but it is evident from this interview that it is what happened. @@jayhill2193

[@lucianosmurf7037]

@@jayhill2193 Makes you wonder, would have been much easier to come out on the other side. He could have been a God to the left if he came out in support of all the nonsense.

[@alichebry]

Nice to see Dr. Phil coming over to the right side. Dr Peterson is the GOAT. 🙏 thank you gentleman. let’s hope others with large platforms start supporting families and children.

[@boobie595]

Goat is another transition word not meant for what ur saying especially for faith based men

[@chedisLoL]

@@boobie595 get over yourself.

[@WalkingAlone90]

​@@boobie595goat is just an acronym for Greatest Of All Time. I've heard people saying this and it makes no sense. It's just like: lol, wtf, wyd, smh, even curse words such as fuck and shit are acronyms lmao. Get it now?

[@samanthamcgraw2675]

​@@boobie595sorry you're getting some heat for this comment. I was just told, like 2 days ago by my man, whom I respect and had faithfully led me in the right ways and never astray, that the term is in fact (at the very least, COULD) be satanic, in that we're giving the title of greatest to anyone BUT the Lamb. If this is not at all in line with what you are getting at here, disregard this lol

[@SeanPS]

​@samanthamcgraw2675 it's getting traction that it's a hidden meaning statement since the Katt williams interview. I've personally never used it to my knowledge because I don't just adopt current slang because it's popular.

[@christinewright2829]

Thank you Dr. Phil for talking in more layman's terms. I had a difficult time following Mr. Peterson, so I couldn't get much out of what he was saying. Dr. Phil did a good job of clarifying for many of us. Also, great points you made, Dr. Phil !!

[@tinam6943]

I am so grateful for this and feel so privileged to listen to these two incredible men speak. Thank you 🙏 ❤

[@TomaxSF]

What a time to see these two minds come together🙏🏼

[@jessemockler616]

❤

[@jackeagleeye3453]

🐑

[@justanothernick3984]

I'm guessing Dr Phil is searching for the same saw from Scary Movie 4 to try to get out of this discussion. JBP is going on his second tangent and it's again tied to the Bible. When all you have is a hammer... Dr Phil seems like a non-controversial former clinician and hopefully he doesn't go all culture war-bonkers like this other former to be clinician.

[@taskcasburn6086]

@@justanothernick3984 What's non controversial? He's coming out against the current day thought police and established trendsetters of the day, especially with his berating of how the last 3 years were handled. Yet you're too fixated on "Peterson doesn't talk the way I like" to see it. congratulations, you really exemplified what's wrong with the current "in" people to begin with, a gross refusal to even listen to those who don't tickle your own personal prejudices of how people should conduct themselves. "Fit my mould or nothing you say holds merit." The same logic most of JP's critics hold.

[@justanothernick3984]

@@taskcasburn6086 I've listened to most of JBPs chats from the last 6 years. And I can tell you why I disagree with most of his takes. Can you justify why you agree with him?

[@All-Fur-Coat_No-Trousers]

I hoped Dr. Phil would turn up here! Watched him on JRE, on Rubin, and now JP. A powerful trifecta. This is a public service, folks.

[@scribbler60]

Dr McGraw is on a mission to sell subscribers to his new TV network. Never be fooled. Follow the money.

[@SteinBergsson]

It's called promo and money...

[@SteinBergsson]

@@petwyn919 He is FRAUD. Shame on you for not seeing that.

[@SteinBergsson]

@@petwyn919 He is fraud. You can't see that?

[@scribbler60]

@@petwyn919 Dr McGraw is in the midst of a series of promotional interviews to support the launch of his new TV network, called Merit Street Media. He's been on Bill Maher too. I have no issues with him marketing his new venture, and have no opinion about its content or style. But never be fooled: this is all about marketing and nothing less.

[@roxpar1816]

Thankful for everyone who is willing to stand up and call out the craziness that is happening!!

[@loriannbendit6296]

It’s so refreshing to hear 2 intelligent men with ethics! Keep up the great works sirs !

[@Blindsyde5762]

Dr Phil has such a way of saying the intelligent point in a way average people can quickly understand.

[@tjhammer24]

Wouldn't trust Dr Phil entirely. He's had enough history to show otherwise. Maybe he's on point with this trans and effects on children, equal outcome. But he's shamed men. Virtually said that dv can't happen towards men. Totally caters to Feminists, has tried to set up and trap rollo Tommasi for the countless painful truths he points out... etc

[@Blindsyde5762]

@@tjhammer24 oh

[@nn-NeuralNetwork]

@@tjhammer24a traditional world view.

[@tania5012]

Yes, he's so relatable

[@tania5012]

Love that, talking in layman's terms

[@jcszot]

My father was a teacher for 25 years. He has since passed away. However, back in the late 80s and early 90s I remember him saying the demise of America will begin with the breakdown of the family unit. As the years have passed, and I have watched just that begin and continue to happen I hear his voice in my head, saying that statement over and over. He was right! I have listened to both of you, gentlemen over the years, reading your books, listening to your podcasts, and what a treat it is to have the two of you come together. This was fantastic! Thank you! And Dr. Phil your latest book - the title is perfect! Can’t wait for Merit Street Media!

[@etcwhatever]

Your father was a very wise man. 🙏

[@user-fs3pm6ue4n]

Older people when I was younger used to say, it's over, this world 🌍 has totally gone to shitttts. I understand now. 😮😒🥴😏🍿🎥💞🌍💜

[@isabellacarter2863]

you're being dramatic for no reason.

[@clintstites]

​@isabellacarter2863, your head is in the sand. Look around once you get out of your bubble.

[@zipmegolden]

Ah yes, Dr. Phil, Oprah's good friend! Don't worry, Phil is in the Wickedness Club. They lie. Anyone who Oprah promotes is in the club! Don't be deceived! 😢😢😢😢

[@user-jb3kk5ef4p]

I’m very happy because Dr. Phil is going in the right direction and he will be Bless , I was thinking he’s on the left side because he was close with to many celebrities wich are in roang road but Dr. Phil didn’t let himself to be absorbed in that direction because he’s very intelligent man and being Family man with big heart he’s distant from them I think. Dr. Peterson he’s brilliance and ability to make people understand what good and what is evil he turns millions people in good directions even he had to suffer to much pain from the left side. This 2 gentlemen’s are the most brilliant stars in the world. I love listening to them.🙏🙏🙏♥️♥️

[@Sonia-xyz]

Dr. Phil is so smart and down to earth!

[@SueProv]

I really think Jordan and his wife are a gift from God. Really appreciate him.

[@mother5823]

Amen

[@DavidSmith-kf4ge]

I also applaud Jordan and his wife’s marriage. A rarity in this day and age and you can tell they still love each other deeply Can’t say the same about Dr Phil though….. odious man

[@SueProv]

​. I know what you mean. He's a little late, but I think he unraveled his entanglement to MSM and is really trying, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

[@AMNESIASTUDI0S]

1. *Cognitive Flexibility:* Believing in something that is not true can limit cognitive flexibility, making it difficult to consider alternative perspectives or entertain contradictory evidence. This rigidity in thinking can impair problem-solving abilities and decision-making processes. 2. *Memory Encoding and Recall:* The brain's memory processes may be influenced by strongly held beliefs, leading to selective encoding and recall of information that aligns with those beliefs while disregarding or distorting contradictory information. This can contribute to memory biases and inaccuracies. 3. *Emotional Regulation:* False beliefs can impact emotional regulation by reinforcing cognitive distortions and biases that influence how individuals perceive and respond to emotionally charged situations. This can contribute to heightened anxiety, stress, or other negative emotional states. 4. *Social Interactions:* Beliefs that are not grounded in reality can affect social interactions by shaping how individuals communicate and relate to others. Confirmation bias and selective attention may lead individuals to seek out like-minded individuals and dismiss or avoid those who hold different beliefs, potentially leading to social isolation or conflict. 5. *Neuroplasticity:* Prolonged adherence to false beliefs can influence brain plasticity, the brain's ability to reorganize and adapt to new information and experiences. Over time, this may reinforce neural pathways associated with the false belief while weakening connections that support critical thinking and skepticism.

[@DGRIFF]

Apparently, Dr. Phil made enough money to be able to speak honestly in a way that could get him canceled.

[@RONNYMORRISMUSIC]

The amazing thing about the internet is that we get to hear conversations like this. Great respect to these two gentlemen and for sharing their conversation and their knowledge.

[@ogenevieve]

Amen.

[@selahsmith281]

I believe that too

[@margauxwashington5609]

Nice to see the passion of Dr. Phil! Thank you for speaking up. You are an encouragement for others!

[@JP-bv7bf]

God bless you both for speaking up on what is going on in this crazy world. 🇨🇦

[@Warrior789_]

I always vaguely knew of Dr. Phil but never took him seriously. Recently, I discovered who Jordan Peterson is and have been absolutely blown away by his brilliance and truth! This interview has given (at least for me) a depth to Dr. Phil that I never knew existed! They both are the real article and loved every minute of this!! 🙌🏼

[@gnukkignukk7536]

I was thinking the same thing. I've never really watched that much of Dr. Phil, but from what I've seen from him it's pretty much all from his TV-show where his role seems to be more or less only to stay unbiased and keep the conversations going. Like in the movie (What is a woman - 2022) there's a scene from Dr. Phil's show where Matt Walsh in vain tries to have three trans-activists explain what a woman is. Dr. Phil's role as unbiased and unable to take a stand on either side gave me the completely wrong impression about him.

[@Islas_Canarias]

I've been watching Dr Phil since he started in the late 90's and Judge Judy. I have learned so many practical skills that I've actually used from both of them. For example I was able to uncover that a niece was being molested because Dr Phil taught me the signs to look out for. My whole family helped her afterwards. You have a lot of catching up to do.

[@amybourdeau5311]

He has charged and admitted to that. I wouldn't be taking anything he says seriously if he didn't open up about changing his views in the past few years

[@velmanevarez2263]

Back handed compliment

[@brendachase1814]

I heard a great joke. "I don't have issues, I have subscriptions"

[@Medietos]

JBP Is one rare authentic, generous, helpful, philanthropist using his knowledge and passion for everyone. Thank God for him.

[@AdianPryde-qz5it]

Grew up in Canada with universal health care no death penalty and gun control.

[@amateur_football9751]

I normally can't stand him, I don't follow him at all, this interview was ok, I doubt I will hear him again do, as I really dislike him

[@AdianPryde-qz5it]

@@amateur_football9751 a Canadian who grew up with universal health care and drug benefits who consistently tells Americans they are better without

[@stevehartley4773]

Obviously, you don’t listen to Jordan Peterson. He is not proud of Canada.

[@AdianPryde-qz5it]

@@stevehartley4773 he has tricked a lot of Americans into giving him money. Canada takes care of its citizens

[@saidaabukar4937]

The two greatest doctors, Dr. PHIL and Dr.PETERSON. ❤❤❤

[@gitoffmahlawn]

Thank you Dr. Phil for courageously speaking out on these issues.

[@Friedrichsen]

Wow! I didn't expect Dr. Phil to talk to Dr. Peterson. I think this is pretty significant.

[@leslieleslie6590]

Jordan Peterson and Dr. Phil together-I'd never thought I'd see this.

[@ErinHausen-qd6lr]

I cannot express how grateful I am that this discussion is taking place! You both give me such hope that, no matter what the agenda is, no matter what forces lie beneath, we can take a stand against it. I applaud your bravery, strength and conviction. Thank you for doing what is right and taking a stand by speaking out. It means everything!

[@dualfocus1822]

This is a fantastic conversation. Thank you for allowing us to hear it.

[@boudicca7181]

The voice of reason and common sense... so rare these days. so very respectful these two.

[@littlefoxnj3403]

I absolutely love Dr. Peterson. A man willing to stand against evil, putting it all on the line, what is more noble than that? He continues to say what needs to be said despite the extreme efforts to silence him.

[@justme-cr3xe]

again, We Are Human.

[@the_Piculiar_Jeff92]

I don’t. Simple. Never have and never wil. I don’t know him and i don’t wanne know him or his work because people you have the same intellegent’s as this guy But all you have to do is find your Intelligent’s it’s hidden deep within you believe me

[@angiemaybe7610]

Very well articulated. I align my morality with most of this conversation. I just don’t agree with the religious jargon.

[@the_Piculiar_Jeff92]

@@justme-cr3xe stop with the Doctrine. We are more Than Human We are All The Creator. Simple Our DNA Micro Cells tells us that real science i know that for a fact Quantum psysics accurat science no doctrine I dont follow any thing the bible says cause that not the Creator But Enlil from the Anunakki they where the gods who ruled over Humans for 20000 years Humans are here 200000 years not 6000 do some real researsh than Faith gone You Just know i pray but to but not to fairytale made up by man to scare you bring fear in the heart of man

[@the_Piculiar_Jeff92]

@littlefoxnj3403 hahaha hahahaha Lmao noble what’s noble about 2 people discussing meaningless bullshit psychiatrists are pseudo scientists they think there alway’s right. He is a big Narcissist Look at him skinny no musculinity looks ill red and old To me he is just a man like anyother People litsen to your self your intuition your bravery your own intelect Don’t litsen people like that

[@gwenstacy6312]

I loved seeing Dr. Phil and Jordan Peterson together. My two favorite psychologists are having an intellectual discussion. I love it!

[@michellebohart6662]

Dynamic duo!!!! So insightful & gives hope for a healthy path. Love that Dr Phil always has the health of the individual at the core with the intent for what’s best for society as a whole. Love this discussion. 🤍🍃

[@mariogoesinsane]

Dr Phil broke out the fourth wall.. I like to see him talking openly outside mainstream tv. It’s kinda surreal seeing dr Peterson and dr Phil in conversation. I love it.

[@selahsmith281]

Totally agree

[@Humblebluegalaxy]

Dr. Peterson and Dr. Phil in the house! May God give them the strength and wisdom to say what is right!

[@vedicchanting]

May we each also have the strength and wisdom to say what is right ourselves!

[@linuslittlefield2112]

Amen!

[@ghost11282]

@@vedicchanting that's what the Christian concept of discernment is.

[@amyfrentheway8402]

THANK YOU BOTH!!! Please don't stop speaking the truth to a world that has gone absolutely NUTS!!

[@ukeshsapkota3257]

I don't understand it all but i am proud that i willingly waste my hours listening to intellectuals and reading the comments of fellow intellectuals too, and i will continue it for the rest of my life. Not to be smart but to be educated.

[@GriBlanco]

I don’t have time to listen to the entire thing yet, because it’s late and I have to put my kid to bed. But I just wanted to say that I love you, Dr. Jordan Peterson and you are a beacon of light in this very dark world!! You have an army of supporters out here!!! Stay strong always!!! I pray for you and the entire crew at the Daily Wire for your protection and continued strength to keep going. God’s got your back!!! ❤❤❤

[@elizabethdasilva5454]

me too

[@paulatulkens1001]

I leave it all in God’s Hands! AMEN, AMEN!🤗❤️❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💖💕

[@derekbaker777]

Amen.

[@j_rainsgoat3929]

Don't forget to listen to it

[@charlesbell5500]

You gotta put your kid to bed, but who's the father? A guy who was chasing his hedonistic whims as Peterson would say? If you're happily married, I'll eat my words, but I'm willing to bet that you're a single mother. It's just so common in our society today. And you're very beautiful, and most single mothers under 30 today are very beautiful. My question is, single mothers, do they make a conscious decision? Do you just want someone's genes and that's it? Or is it mostly the case that they get played? I know I'm being rude and up front here but I'm just a seeker of the truth. Thanks for understanding. God bless. 🙏

[@ricasso777]

Two Noble men having a much needed discussion regarding these topics is brilliant 👏

[@Blessyouremptyheart]

😂😂

[@calistafalcontail]

Dr. Phil hasnt been noble much. He might have woken up now, I dont know, but he was playing along to the madness and Hollyweird for way to long.

[@pricklycats]

NPC ass comment lmao

[@redguard1607]

​@@calistafalcontailAh yes, the obligatory negative comment

[@lesleyannthecarnivore]

​@@redguard1607Its the truth though. 😢

[@Atelierhotbox]

I grew up seeing Dr Phil play in the background on my kitchen TV, constantly playing between Dr Oz or the News or something when I got home from school. Unfortunately, the spectacles of unique mental cases featured on his show was all all that stuck in my head when I heard the man’s name. This conversation has been my first intentional viewing of anything attached to his name, and Im glad it was with DrJBP. Insightful and dense conversation about stuff people-like me- should hear more. Thank you.

[@yankhofreemansomanje6433]

I find two things mind blowing about this conversation. First is how much of this is told already in African folklore in teaching children growing up. Through storytelling and folksong, the same wisdom is passed from grandfather to grandson. Second, how large swathes of African society is rapidly abandoning the old ways in the name of modernised thinking thinking to conform with the very thinking this conversation is seeing as hopelessly lost. Incredible!

[@leonabarkell1809]

Thank you for sharing! Wisdom has been passed down through many cultures, but all that wisdom is considered foolish by the progressives.

[@Anelej96]

I hope people realize what an absolutely BRILLIANT podcast this is!! Wow !!

[@mrsbee5056]

I'm not sure if you can apply an algorithm to cure todays problems though , as is the way Jordan's' method would be done, We have a massive drug problem in the equation that they have not mentioned. People do not have morals like they used to and ESPECIALLY not the Americans who have (in my opinion) an ANTI CULTURE. Their society is crass and greedy, The "family unit" is not always better with a father and sometimes works out better with a grandad or friend as a father figure rather than keeping useless fathers family units just because they THINK THEY SHOULD.

[@hopefull2070]

I was born into war. War tore my family apart, mainly through unresolved trauma. I agree Family is absolutely paramount to the structural integrity of society. Really enjoyed the depth of this interview.

[@traceyfonda5300]

Where I grew up in Western Australia, I still to this day stand by this. I was taught to Treat others how you want to be treated. In saying that, I did not need to be told that because I’m a kind, compassionate, thoughtful person anyway. That is me at 62 years today. I’ve suffered a lot of trauma from childhood onwards but it did not change my personality at all.

[@AnarchistFun101]

You are the man peterson. Thank you for speaking up for all of us in Congress!

[@edybrasfield1345]

Thanks so much Dr. Phil and Dr. Perterson for taking a stand for what is right and your support of human values. Blessings

[@mrsbee5056]

Do you think that Dr Phil is doing the right thing parading people who have f%^ked up lives on TV for the "entertainment" of the nation. I DONT think that behaviour is Christian at all. Dr Phil THINKS that he has been put on Earth to help people? If that is the case then why does he make money from poverty stricken families. He is EGO-CENTRIC and uses his money to pay for his equally self obsessed wife and her plastic surgery. He is NOT HUMBLE

[@jenniferlloyd9574]

Keep of the good work, Dr Peterson. Love you!!! You're on the right side of history.

[@cathyphillips9120]

I'm so happy to see the 2 of you together talking - such brilliance! Common sense that's not so common anymore.

[@lindarichards8334]

People do things out of Selfish fear. Thank you Dr. Peterson, and Dr. Phil.

[@mx4774]

We all need to speak up before madness and lunacy takes us alive. Thank you for this conversation. Yes to God, Family, Logic. Bless us all so we go with strength and dignity through this difficult challenge of today's world.

[@Aussie-Nan]

This is a western world issue we all need to fight back, same here in Australia 😢

[@spiritrider3348]

Be very careful, none of this is Gospel!

[@CTCAL]

I refuse to buy into the delusions of today. I'm wondering how long it will be before someone woke starts insisting everyone start grunting like evolution says the cave people did. That's another thing. . . I refer to people I don't know as people or human beings now. I only do that, because I'm just tired of dealing with the, too, many that feel a need to give me a lecture for simply not knowing just by looking at them.

[@adanakesh74]

Of course they are not Jesus. No one is. The fact is sharing the idea of God and bring people to understanding their true self is what matters. Professionals with their wisdom should be helping people, and it is no gospel…

[@drts6955]

Yes logic and blind faith! Praised be religious hypocrisy!

[@gloriousgardens1257]

What an eye opening discussion. Definitely worth the time it takes to listen. Thank you

[@Query_8P]

Dr. Phill sounded humble here and appreciative of the respectful conversation, this was nice to listen to while spring cleaning

[@mehakverma7043]

A duo I would have never thought to put together

[@partiellementecreme]

Yeah it’s a little surreal to see Phil McGraw in the podcast circuit.

[@elizabethdasilva5454]

me too

[@DC-hi7pm]

Sometimes you have to give YOURSELF what you DESERVE! Any jackass can kick down a barn, but only a carpenter can build one. Wow Dr Phil I have a new respect and admiration for you. This was a great interview as well as your interview with Joe Rogan. ❤

[@laurataylor3159]

Doctor Phil is really concentrating on these problems without giving hope for fixing. Jordan Peterson comes with wisdom that brings solutions. My energy really shifts listening to Dr Phil. I feel my fear but my faith allows me to speak my truth. This whole fear based idea is exactly where the world is going wrong. Which is the very reason society is failing our upcoming children of the world which is so important. If we talk about how to start taking control we automatically feel hope.

[@christiemcarthur3519]

Thank you for this much needed conversation available to all

[@KNoyes420]

Dr. Phil is so good at communicating and guiding the common folk. Dr. Peterson is our guide to understanding the deepest aspect of existence. Both great communicators but on different levels. I read Dr. Phil's book, its great, easy to comprehend for most people the first time, very helpful. When I read Maps of Meaning, I had to undergo significant education and mental training just to begin understanding. After 10 years and 7 full read through I am still learning from that 1 book. I love the work Dr. Peterson has done/is doing, but I honestly feel we need more Dr. Phil's to fight the culture war.

[@Medietos]

KNoyes420: Yes, and Mr Phil was born in Virgo but JBP in Gemini. Both ruled by communicative Mercury, but from the Earth respective Air element.

[@cornelius8617]

Then why he has a misandrist show

[@SNAP-2-IT]

Wish you would have mentioned the title of what Dr Phil book you read- I presume he has more than one.

[@dsawake58]

I agree with you. Jordan leaves me going "Hey what?" a lot of the time and I don't think I'm thick :) He seems to want (need) to use language that requires you to have a dictionary next to you. Very smart guy for sure but his way of communicating can be very off putting for those who don't have a dictionary :). But Dr Phil explains ideas in everyday language with concepts that are easily understood. So, he is able to connect with those who just want to hear the simplified version and be able to apply the concepts and ideas to life. without one needing to have a university degree. An analogy is those in the field of 'science' using codes and 'big' words to dazzle the peasants and convince the peasants that they are the 'one source of truth'. Just my opinion :)

[@selahsmith281]

Spot on assessment!!

[@ExpressAudioVideo]

Wow! This is a side of Dr. Phil I have never seen, and I am very impressed. Thank you Dr. Petersen for bringing him on. It is such a pleasure to hear a discourse between two such brilliant and rational thinkers..

[@sandywong1959]

Thank you both! … a great discussion! You have such understanding regarding current culture…. Much wisdom too!!

[@paullanier7982]

Thank you good men to speak out!

[@Tackleqb]

2 of the best psychologists in the world. Oh boy this is a treat! Btw I freakin love the clinical approach Jordan approaches with all his interviews. It’s almost like he is sitting down with a client. This is so on brand for him.

[@creed4022]

Dr. Peterson has met his match. Dr.Phil as an individual is priceless..so glad he walked away from evil Queen Oprah channel, and is starting his own channel where he can speak his mind and not worry about entertainment. He was brilliant before she tried to buy him off, and he's going back to who he really is.

[@tjhammer24]

​@@creed4022no he hasn't. Wouldn't trust Dr Phil entirely. He's had enough history to show otherwise. Maybe he's on point with this trans and effects on children, equal outcome. But he's shamed men. Virtually said that dv can't happen towards men. Totally caters to Feminists, has tried to set up and trap rollo Tommasi for the countless painful truths he points out... etc

[@briankenome]

​@@tjhammer24 was agreeing with you until you mentioned Rollo tomassi

[@sherriianiro747]

​@@tjhammer24 Also, his comment about the COVID unemployment money being socked away was in reality socked away by retirees who did not need the money, but people who lost their jobs at that time did use it to live on. Ironically he does not mention corporate welfare for the pandemic that continues today with everyone hiring but no one is getting hired.

[@shelleypakenham9129]

May God bless you both for speaking the truth. More people need to speak out the truth..

[@Virgophrenia]

I feel extremely motivated listening to these 2 intelligent men conversing❤This was an amazing interview. Loved it!

[@user-th2he9ok7r]

Thank you both! ❤

[@speeden7553]

Dr Phil is underrated. He is an absolute legend in my opinion. Thank you Dr.Peterson for doing this podcast with him🙏

[@albertmaziarz6739]

legend like evry village idiot

[@verizon8134]

Dr. Phil has completely fallen on his face. After all, he cannot overcome a spiritual person who has lessons from the Bible and the Word of God. Dr. Phil really doesn't have to do it, but he says I am a fool and a fool. If you love yourself, you will fall down like Dr. Phil and from today onwards, you will never stand up again. I can't map...

[@verizon8134]

닥터 필 그냥 졌으면 엎드려 오늘 부터 는 아무도 니가 하는 프로그램 쫑 났습니다 😢😮정말

[@verizon8134]

나는 닥터 필 이 이렇게 끔찍한 바보 멍청이 인줄 오늘 알았어요 😮

[@verizon8134]

하나님 의 말씀 을 주 야 로 묵상 하는 자로다 오늘 내가 이 방송 을 못받다면.. 예수이름 으로 승리를 얻겠네 할렐루야

[@americagomez-de-las-barcen6521]

What a joy is to be immersed in a sea of sanity!! Thank you to both of you!!

[@Anne-LiseH]

The family businesses failing is a huge problem. It’s difficult to build something up from nothing. Also note that all big box stores were all open during lockdowns. So you can crowd into those but not a small store.

[@emmasalva6311]

"Treat yourself with Dignity and Respect" so great words that I stand for.

[@lauraquigley6403]

Thanks Jordan for everything you do! I am extremely glad you have pressed on to continue to send TRUTH despite your illness & your families & how you have been treated! Happy that Dr Phil is able to speak the truth!🙏🙏🙏Blessing’s

[@dianesmith7472]

How refreshing to listen to this very intelligent conversation with two individuals who know what they are talking about - thank you both 🙏

[@LauraBoltz]

Thank you both for your knowledgeable insights of reality. Stay healthy and God bless.

[@AmandaBellefeuille-pq8oz]

I am glad to hear Dr Phil say that we need to teach our history to young people. There is a race of people who will never ever forget that slavery existed in this country. History that is forgotten is doomed to repeat itself.

[@MrDankDro]

I admittedly fell asleep half way through this, but gimme a break. I worked 10 hours today and just finished dinner. Lol But woke up and finished and glad I did. So much of this seems like the most rational way to live a better life and be a better person. Really a lot of insight help me approach being a better father and being a better man. Almost all of it seems common sense but it's common sense that you never hear anymore. Everyone needs to pay attention to these men and practice what you learn daily and maybe this cultural degradation and implosion can be turned around and benefit everybody. "Questions you can't answer are better than answers you can't question." I really like that quote.