The Devil and Karl Marx | Dr. Paul Kengor | EP 455

[@lenar.4735]

This conversation needs to be expanded into a semester-long course and offered to all first-year college students in the US and Canada!

[@pursuingthetruth777]

My son took his semester course

[@ulysses_grant]

I agree 100%. The spiritual battle would be hard if that course became a reality, by the way.

[@cormQerTHEworld]

Seriously.

[@dorijoe]

​​​@@ulysses_grant The spiritual battle is hard without this imaginary course being a reality. Also, Satan is loosing this battle. I really believe that it is the end game for Satan. Once a critical mass wakes up to the fact that the Devil exists and it is acting through humans who have lost their humanity or compliant with humans who lost their humanity, the mask will fall off and it will be over. We, as a collective, have started to confront it.

[@benchamberlin7970]

Its a class called "Marxism" taught by Dr. Kengor at Grove City College. I have taken it.

[@vladmordekeiser1054]

As an ex-communist of reasonably high rank inside the Academy for years in the areas of Philosophy and Politics, I have to say what is clear now to me: the battle was NEVER communism vs. capitalism. It was always communism vs. Christianity.

[@MasalethofHallow]

To be thorough, it's Satan (capitalism + communism) vs. God

[@southboundguitar]

@@MasalethofHallowSatan isn’t real. He’s not even in the original version of the Bible. It was made up to keep the Romans paying their taxes.

[@joeygrace2464]

You are probably neither, 'cause if you still believe in god, after all you've learned about the materialistic world that surround us, and that spirituality doesn't exist, it means that you probably didn't learn anything.

[@daveonezero6258]

@@MasalethofHallow Property rights is literally in the 10 commandments "don't steal". God gives Talents. He commands us to use them and expand his Kingdom as it is in Heaven.

[@margaretbleakley8526]

Yes indeed

[@briktimasresha5386]

As an Ethiopia Orthodox Christian, I was surprised to hear a discussion about Marx and the devil. This is a conversation I wouldn't expect in a modern society,yet it's refreshing to see it acknowledged, because we Ethiopians know very much what this Dr is trying to say. it's all true!

[@rickmoser7695]

An America , we can see the spiritual battle playing out that Marx was possessed by Lucifer/the (d)evil and his leftist followers are his minions.

[@jazzg777777]

I love ❤️ the Ethiopian Holy Bible, Complete books of Enoch !

[@richardgarnos6715]

As an Ethiopian, u must know the evil of Marxism...

[@FSAHT-FabianSocialistAcademicH]

Rules For Radicals by Saul Alinsky is factually dedicated "to the first radical Lucifer", in addition to containing NAZI tactics.

[@randallpaul6565]

Pp

[@thegeneralist7527]

"Hatred of the good for being the good." The purest definition of evil.

[@UnaBarbee]

This should be on a T-shirt!

[@alexanderc3467]

Is it a secret wish to be good? is it a feeling of the opposites? there must be both in the world, the wise man walks the middle path. mephisto hates his lott, he cannot change his fate, so he lashes out at reality. why do satan and his angel fall? was it ever really their choice? hard to say..

[@thegeneralist7527]

@@alexanderc3467 Good pont. My opinion is its the desire to be better than good. The desire to create utopia. The quote is from Ayn Rand, who had personal experience with communism. Whether you believe in God or evolution, the world is the way it is, not the way we would like it to be. In a changing and imperfect world, all men must work to adapt and prosper. To believe that there is a better way is to change the world as it is. Utopia does not exist, it is a dream in men's minds, as depicted in the garden of eden or heaven.

[@marionmarcetic7287]

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[@marionmarcetic7287]

​KARL MARX WAS ALSO A SATANIST!!! HE WAS DEEPLY INTO THE OCCULT!!! COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM ARE TWO SIDES OF THE SAME COIN!!! SHALOM AND AMEN!✝️✝️🛐🛐😇🌟🤗🙏🙏🙏🇨🇦🇮🇱♾️🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🗽🦅‼️

[@scottishguard]

In college, I was somewhere between a Nietzschean and a Marxist. My life was a chaotic, stressful wreck. 20 years later, I'm a Traditional Catholic convert, Philosopher, Historian, Conservative, married, semi-retired, large family, good life. Marx should be taught as a warning, never a philosophy.

[@carlogiurizzato2441]

what's wrong with being a Nietzschean?

[@Jesper-bl2ns]

Not just Marxism. We should always warn against ideologies. Ideologies always seek to be all encompassing and force everybody to follow their tenets. They share that with religions.

[@nicholaswilson2155]

Amen to that, Brother. The only success and joy I've had are from sound traditional catholic concepts. My faith and family give life purpose and meaning true joy.

[@den8863]

⁠@@nicholaswilson2155The dignity of all mankind, the true love of others, forgiveness and repentance. That is anti Marxist and what brings this world together in a true peace that we have never witnessed because it goes against our selfish desires and we reject it. That is why we sin.

[@vladimirolujic6637]

Shifted the locus controle to God, so it has to be easier.

[@66fredo99]

Years ago as a young Black man in college I'd been exposed to several books on Marx from my profs (I was Poli Sci) and was intensely curious about him. I read everything on him and by him. As I discovered the real Marx - racist, atheist, and self-absorbed, I was completely turned off by him. Fast forward to BLM and Patrice Coleurs' claim to be a "trained" Marxist, I knew right then she didn't know what the F she was talking about, or worse still she did know - and BLM was one big deliberate deception for a specific political purpose. The same issues turned me off about Obama and his influence from the communist Frank Marshall Davis.

[@wanda520]

When I saw Obama speak for the first time I was terrified.

[@JanetMix-jt6sv]

Boom, same ol... cover deception lies spread over and over take control of the mindset without any thinking or researching for themselves or of course the worst ones😢 refuse to see

[@debbiestyer453]

Well said

[@Rekless70]

I agree , well said.

[@briancook7535]

777 II 777

[@mikelee9886]

Our culture needs so much more educating on what communism and Marxism is.

[@Braveheart0484]

THats difficult because the right left education to these people. Our tax money pays for Marxists to brainwash your children in the namecof "education." The number one threat yo America is the Teachers Union and the Board of education

[@kevinwilt5496]

Like what? Marxism is a failed viloent oppressive inefficient philosophy that's self evident and beyond any refutation.

[@Jesper-bl2ns]

We have the same problem with people that say they have read "The wealth of nations" while they have barely read past page 100 - and simply don't know what Adam Smith wrote about a social safety net.

[@gillesdeleuze6083]

Man, the majority of americans cant even name the continents ... they dont have the basics in chemistry, math, history... maybe bebause you are too deep into ancient myths instead of the real world

[@SovereignRules]

“Tragedy and Hope” by Quigley tells the whole story of what happened in America with the Marxists that created the Federal Reserve Bank and ended free markets therefore ending true capitalism and casting it as a bad thing so that people would accept the real bad thing that we all live under today.

[@LaserHighway]

It's a scary thought if JP's brilliance remained limited to 50 college students, and was never introduced to the world for this kind of content. The radical left gifted him to us.

[@bobtaylor170]

Thank you, Cathy.

[@LouiseDay-bd4qi]

Yes ..almost a bit of a divine plan...he will certainly be able to show the Lord how he used his allotted talents

[@Gallowglass7]

Very.

[@mitchc3569]

@@LouiseDay-bd4qi-And yet he just can’t accept Christ because as a scientist the Fact of his death and resurrection is beyond his “reasoning”. I also am saddened that he’s aligned himself with the RINO Shapiro and his gang of satanic zionists.

[@ChazMcMahon]

As Paul's thorn in his flesh mentioned in his second letter to the church at Corinth did for him, "...my power is made perfect in weakness"

[@JonBonZombie]

Jordan Peterson Really helped me. Videos and his book in the early stages of my sobriety. I'm 8 years sober ..

[@annaghmorelurchers7451]

Praise God!

[@alanalycan3986]

Well done hunny ☺️💪 stand firm against temptation & the enemy will have no power over you 🙏 8 + yrs, you're doing amazing❤

[@helenrichards2762]

Wow that's so amazing!!

[@alanaadams7440]

Good on you!

[@Hannah-zr]

That’s awesome 👏 Well done 👍 Keep it up 🙂 Praise God

[@psychlops924]

Something the Christ said that we all need to hold to: By their fruits ye shall know them. Just hearing about the state of Marx's life lets me know that I shouldn't do anything he ever advocated for.

[@marisakennedy777]

Agreed. Mohammed is another one.

[@janstone2365]

I hope you hold Trump to the same standard

[@samsavage9039]

@@janstone2365found the liberal

[@creed22solar123]

@@janstone2365 yea I hope you hold sleepy pdf file joe to it too

[@ReshonBryant]

Indeed. Someone told me recently that sometimes you can be a person's only hope. A few nights ago I observed something that startled and sickened me. It was a live sexual predator stalking a young woman. It was clear the young woman was going out of here way to avoid and get away from that Boogeyman we all heard about. For a moment it brought to mind a mouse trapped in a terrarium and I had a front row view of what happens next. There were people around of course and yet it felt like I was the only one aware. I was left with hyper vigilance. I just kept an eye on things until I was sure the young woman was safe. The next day I happened upon that weirdo again, but at a public park. We actually startled each other this time. Except, I spooked the Boogeyman this time. I pulled up on his bumper inadvertently. Meaning, I popped up behind him and he got spooked. I had a chance to take matters into my own hands. Just in case ya know? That idea would be short lived however. An older white man came up to the predator face to face and begin to engage him. They started arguing about who was there first. The old man told him he had been watching him all morning and saw when he first arrived. That made the predator uneasy and defensive. He also became aggressive towards the old man and looked back at me realizing there's no escape if things go down. The old head then shot me a glance as if to say, I know. I wanna get that SOB too. But, not like this. I breathed a sigh of relief, thanking God that somebody else noticed that creep too😎

[@cindirose3390]

So glad that Florida has decided to teach all students of all ages the Dangers of Communism in Public Schools.

[@amyshoemaker5770]

Well...the economic, political systems are being reframed according to marxists " philosophy".

[@DeniseIreland-i1q]

This should be taught in high school for enlightenment!! Blessings

[@bicyclist2]

I had no idea that Marx was so detestable in so many ways. This is like a college course. Thank you.

[@jimmytimmy3680]

Have you even read anything Marx wrote?

[@KLT47B]

Study Eastern European history starting with 1920. Eastern Europe was a prosperous region, filled with wealth and there was a strong middle class existent. In 1946 all crumbled away because of Marxism. You have no idea how evil Marxism is unless you have lived through communism. Now I live in a western country. Seeing college kids putting up posters with the hammer and the sickle terrifies me.

[@thebeanymac]

@@jimmytimmy3680 I haven't, but I did read Blake, and Stalin. Things clicked into place quite slowly over the years after uni. CS Lewis by far pleased me more than long ago did Blake, whom I have forgotten. Activism, useless as it can be, was also a window into their tiny irascible hearts, where lurks friend to none.

[@andreys7729]

@@thebeanymac Think whatever you want. Just don't forget that Stalin saved your sorry ass from the Nazis.

[@randomanun4278]

It's all of the parts they leave out of the college courses...

[@notsure9379]

It is a very rare conversation that I can listen to and forget I'm a spectator. Great job, Doctors. Thank you for letting us enjoy it

[@iamcalledirenechaliz-lopez]

Fr 👏

[@Tyrell-d6o]

As a former self-described Communist in my teens, the pull towards Marxism was always dark, and I, as a teenager, was in a dark place. This speaks for itself. Many young men undergoing puberty go through a dark place, their bodies and brains are shorn of innocence as they turn from boys into men, who for the first time have the capacity and sometimes the desire for violence. Some face this darkness by becoming criminals, some manage to channel it into a more poetic or cerebral and symbolic form by becoming "goth", which I was also, and some are suckered into violent political or religious extremism, primarily Marx. The social environment that claims Marxism is somehow just also facilitated this pull, and the idea that it's "for a good cause" gave me an internal moral shield that allowed me not to question myself. It was not Christianity per se that shook me out of this, but a dedication to objectively beautiful things, like music, cathedrals, castles, churches, expressions of cultural heritage which Marxism takes under the gun. The Christian nature of these elements seemed incidental to me, as I find this same beauty in ancient Greece and pre-Christian Rome, for instance. This tells you that Marxism isn't just anti-Christian, it's anti-Human. No matter your faith, culture or customs, Marx wants to eradicate it. This is why it's not just a Christian issue - Marxism should concern even the atheists who wish to preserve the human and historical elements of their societies.

[@yulegurreau3346]

Thank you. Profound.

[@Bobbel888]

Seems you are already fine with "Marx is evil" :( No, it's all people sitting on phyilosophies not coming from the fear of God.

[@kahadin]

My wife used to critisize this stuff as demonic, and I never took her seriously. This conversation was very enlightning and helped tie up some loose notions about marxism that I couldnt really make sense of.

[@karmar22able]

Listen to your wife!

[@JeffMTX]

Sometimes the ladies get it right! Wish mine did ☹️

[@johnkaylor8670]

I am not inherently political in nature, but I always sensed that it was seriously abnormal and deranged. I did not go on to the conclusion that it was Actually demonic - which it definitely is.

[@alanalycan3986]

Trust in her. She knows, she feels it, she understands. You love, trust in her ❤ I'm very observant of negative energy & evil entities , some people are very receptacle to energies (good and bad) we will always try to protect those we love the most

[@LackofFaithify]

There's something really twisted about how this all leads to acts of violence and ultimatums against those who have worked hard for all they have and be where they are.

[@wildolive7758]

Marx needed JP advice " clean out your room, before thinking to fix the world, man!"

[@AmanitaWoodrose]

😂

[@bobtaylor170]

Take a bath!!!!!

[@jasonwithnell84]

Shave your beard

[@salvadaXgracia]

Yep, although it seems like Marx wanted to destroy the world not fix it, and he did destroy himself and his family first and made a lot of "progress" toward the other.

[@knowahnosenothing4862]

100%

[@JoeBoxerNo1]

communism at last, finally makes COMPLETE SENSE to me now, understanding the psychotic man behind the Communist Manifesto.

[@deanjacobs1766]

Communism is rope a dope for the masses.

[@tinkletink1403]

go back to sleep joe

[@knossos574]

Marx was a real man, a giant in thought, unlike JBP.

[@sashimi879]

Nice troll ​@@knossos574

[@memepage2530]

@@sashimi879he is right 😂

[@momscience399]

Dr. Kengor is an awesome guest! I love that he can predict Dr. Peterson's questions, very rare to see a guest do that with him. They have great inter play in this conversation.

[@yoo_zen]

Unwatchable. First 10 min. : bs or they do not understand ' everything.....' Uneducated tugs!

[@georgehenry9072]

For people that don’t think we’re in a spiritual battle.. You are, I am and we will always be until the next adventure beyond .

[@joblo2671]

There is no battle. There is no war. Jesus already won 2k yrs ago!!

[@Jaime-ks9cr]

Bukele said that. We áre in a spiritual Battle.

[@jtjwhite]

🎯

[@Adamantos-Elean]

there is no spiritual battle, spirits are a delusion of an overactive imagination and genetic memory.

[@jarroddavid8352]

So what should we do once we're armed with that knowledge?

[@ChisomJessica_Ijoma]

As a Nigerian, and a social science student, I know the awful nature of people, lecturers and students who subscribe to Marxism, I know how godless they can be in thoughts and ideation and deeds, I have always known there is some sort of dark influence behind the knowledge that subscribes to Marx ideologies beyond the books, this interview is really a strong validation to what my wild Christ and logical based thoughts have been!! This is truth in plain sight!! And I am most glad it is coming from our "White counterparts and precisely learned folks like these two amazing men". Well, because my gullible black people will always claim that "they white men have lied to us with religion to promote their selfish interests" and many will often quote Marx on this issue and promote his many other godless ideologies. I just hope everyone really understands that we are in a world controlled by forces higher than human existences and there is an on going battle, beyond us humans, we merely manifest the influence put upon us by the side of the divide we subscribe to; there is Good and Evil! God who is absolute and only "Good" and then satan who is trying to be at the opposite side, sincerely, i sort of feel wrong trying to put both side by side, because, satan and evil is way beneath God to be possibly put at an opposing side with God. But for lack of a better way to express my thoughts, i will permit it so. Denying the existence of God and Good, or the supernatural is still a result of the influence from the dark side. And the Bible clearly has told us who is running the show in this world, "The prince of the world; satan", the good news is he only does so as long as God permits. Having this understanding should prepare Christians of the many battles our faith will be faced with, many i say, because more are yet to come and having a clear understanding of the many tools of Satan's operations like the likes of Karl Marx and his many demonic postulations and ideologies, will have to be intentionally thought through as many godly intellectual platforms as this and in our many social Christian gatherings, especially schools who have sound curriculums. We are at war! And the many strokes of the devil over the centuries, through different institutions and instruments, for me, serves as a validation of the truth of the Christian Faith!!! I feel Christians should be encouraged by the many attacks, both the subtle ones and the obvious ones, and most importantly get themselves ready for the battle through biblical teachings with sound Holyspirit inspired interpretations. The world we live in... IS MORE SPIRITUAL THAN IT IS PHYSICAL! everything is indeed controlled by the spiritual! Let no one be deceived!

[@downloadstuffgames]

currently listening to his book. Karl Marx is more revolting than i thought. My stomach was turning on my drive home hearing about how he treated his family.

[@ulysses_grant]

Does he address the fact of Marx being a racist that no woke person would tolerate (Or... would they)? Because he definitely was.

[@SunPresager]

You mean karl how he treated his family?

[@NormKhershberg]

yep we need to learn about cook before we eat his meal

[@MrMonikura]

Why people teach woke?

[@locosbarbas]

Woke American culture has nothing to do with the original Soviet/Russian communism and socialism. For gods sake gays were illegal in the Soviet Union while in USA now all comunists are gay wtf.

[@lux-veritatis]

I used to know a lot of hard core Marxist/communist/radical punk/hippie/crusty types when I was a young metal head kid and it’s CRAZY hearing you dissect their psychology because I have distinct memories of things they would say or how they acted that just fit this pattern described of Marx so neatly. And finding out Marx was filthy, of course he was… so were all these people! Almost like their ideology informed their very existence. Chaotic and toxic people that blamed everyone around them for their failings but couldn’t exert any effort towards cleaning themselves up and trying to make something out of their lives. A lot of them really identified with dark characters like Loki the trickster Norse spirit and they were obsessed with playing out these demonic narratives of themselves as misunderstood heroes. A lot of them also really toyed with the idea of burning everything to the ground, or that humans were a plague, etc etc Fascinates me how certain psychologies just collect around certain ideas

[@hyghhopes]

Yes. I've had these types in my life... work, school, neighbors... They are typically weak in character, and will never admit their inadequacies, but instead try and mask them in some false Virtue. Like, I don't believe in violence because I'm a pacifist... in reality - No. You're a pacifist because you're a Coward, and it just sounds better to say it your way.

[@jamesroberts5450]

f'ing well written, my friend. thank you!

[@josephinebrown6631]

Thank you for sharing this

[@wheel-man5319]

Grand insight!

[@desiprioleau]

Crusty types made me laugh so hard, yet I know exactly what you mean 😂

[@jordanlozinski2372]

This was easily one of your best episodes!

[@backyardmech]

Excellent discussion . "You can vote communism into power, but you can't vote it out" - Trevor Louden

[@Jesper-bl2ns]

That's what happens with all ideologies. They are always intended to be all emcompassing and will attempt to force everybody to adhere to their tenets when they get strong enough. Ideologies like communism is always presented as a quick fix and when you first say yes - you are caught in a net of misery.

[@LackofFaithify]

Or to be less clever by way of referencing the thing we know you get triggered by: you can vote a future authoritarian ruler into office, but once he's in and takes all the power, you don't get to tell him what to do. But sure, it only actually is applicable to communism....Soviets are gone....China doesn't even have universal healthcare or limited social programs like Medicaid and massive wealth disparity.....where is the communist state you're mongering the fear over again?

[@dominiquepadmaraj5706]

In communist countries where socialists’ recommendation that private property be confiscated and given to the “people” was followed, “theft of property quickly resulted in a total theft of freedom, and ultimately a massive theft of life.” -Dennis Prager-

[@KLT47B]

I grew up in Eastern Europe. They don't steal your freedom and your property only. They steal your feelings, your thoughts, your family. Everything. You live in a world where mothers are ratting out their children if they make a joke about the Marxist system. You have no idea how evil Marxism is unless you've lived through it.

[@jam1369]

Great example of the importance of doing your research before following and supporting a cause.

[@lillpriest3675]

Even for someone who comes from Eastern European communist country, this was eye opening.

[@jimmytimmy3680]

Do you own a house?

[@lillpriest3675]

@@jimmytimmy3680why the question

[@Venmaylove]

​@@jimmytimmy3680I own any house where a hooman feeds me. Come at me

[@monicaurschitz4675]

@@jimmytimmy3680 I worked with a couple from an East European country once. They told me the wife's grandparents were the first and the only ones in the family to buy and own property, after generations of saving and working hard for it. When the 'soviets' came along they took it all away ...

[@DIABOLICAL-6]

​@@monicaurschitz4675 Sounds about right.

[@LeoxandarMagnus]

This is one of the most important interviews I’ve seen on KZbin.

[@rollingrizzo1291]

It was completely subjective

[@georgewagner7787]

They quote Marx He called himself atheist He wanted to abolish private property and the family as well as capital. Pretty objective

[@leahhanderson3737]

This is a wonderful interview. I was rivited! I hope you have Dr. Kengor back.

[@Gamer7z7]

25:44 “Marx never set foot in the field or factory” 🫳🎤

[@anairenemartinez165]

Neither did Fidel Castro. The dude never worked for a living. His Father and father in law both paid all the bills, rent, food. Once he spent a whole monthly allowance in a book set, Mussollini Biography.

[@jackrose5077]

Unbelievable that a guy who never even worked had the balls to change the course of human history by claiming to be for the people who worked their asses off.

[@alexzannoni1501]

Yep, like all socialists!!

[@rustyshackelford934]

Most of the high ups in all the regimes never did. Most of them were of the aristocracy. They were rich kids who were able to sit around and philosophize about fixing the world, when they were completely out of touch. They didn’t know how the actual world worked. They wanted to be perceived as virtuous, just like the kids of today. That’s why I’ve always insisted Marx didn’t write for the working class. If you ever read his stuff, it’s obvious he’s writing it for the educated aristocracy. Very few men of that time period would be able to read that and really grasp what he saying, unless they were properly educated. Which most working class men at that time had very rudimentary reading skills, if they were able to read at all. He wasn’t writing to the working man. He was writing to the rich. That’s why he wrote about vanguardism and getting the most “class-conscious” to lead the sheep because he essentially thought they were too stupid to know what was good for them. Most of them thought and had very low feelings for the working class and particularly the peasantry. If you look at it objectively, without passion for a utopian world (which is what it does perfectly-it preys on people’s weaknesses and false hopes with a bunch of nice sounding rhetoric), their solutions don’t really make sense, and are even contradictory a lot, unless you look at it from an aspect of power.

[@wti999]

Don't think it had anything to do with sympathy for workers It just happened to be the cause that could be exploited for the end goal of destruction..

[@delvingeorge2807]

Wake up people! Cry out to God, who alone can save from this Madness!

[@yeshalloween]

We are. Many of us are.

[@3R45U5]

Christianity: "Kain is the villain!" Marxism: "Kain is the hero!" Even I, an agnostic, am getting goosebumps.

[@christopherclark508]

Wow I'm definitely going to reference this video when I'm talking with people who think Marx was a hero.

[@ArkansasSquaw]

Same!

[@theodorabruin4601]

Saving on my phone.

[@beaanderson6488]

Anyone who thinks Karl Marx was a “hero” is not educated on his ideology.

[@sheridansherr8974]

Same! Too many people have no idea!

[@monkeymox2544]

I'm going to reference it to people when I want to show them an hour and a half of bad arguments, strawmen, misnomers and a complete lack of honest engagement with a text.

[@Area-5l]

This is the most Jordan Peterson podcast yet.

[@ReshonBryant]

Seriously good timing and topic🌝

[@ashleywalker1411]

@@ReshonBryant glad I could inspire it. While you do nothing but provoke. You will lose.

[@ReshonBryant]

@@ashleywalker1411 Jesus doesn't lose honey. I'm at the apex for a reason 🐻

[@ashleywalker1411]

@@ReshonBryant you are in a fake spiritual battle. But you will encounter the REAL one soon. Enjoy.

[@ReshonBryant]

@@ashleywalker1411 okay you still haven't provided evidence that I'm not King David's descendant tho👻

[@Huckleberry04]

Thank you for helping explain what is hard to explain without the wisdom. We only knew it was bad but unable to put it to words

[@dawitzewdie330]

I ate this conversation like my favourite meal. My home nation (Ethiopia) has been suffering a lot due to the Marxist thought for the last sixty years. Still now we are suffering from ethnic-federal system which has the centrality of victim-victimizer narration. Thank you for this eye-opening discussion and I hope one day I will see you in my country.

[@Vee0777]

Can you help me share how it impact you guys? I not know much about marxist and Ethiopia but i want to learn

[@amylynnesmith1192]

I thank u for sharing God Bless u 🙏❣️ Namaste

[@patriciastapleton2625]

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[@nicholasvalentine2428]

Incidentally my favourite author is Ivan Turgenev. He and Karl Marx were both 1818-1883. I just looked at their dates of birth and death and found that they both lived for 64 years and 296 days. One producing beauty and one sewing havoc and cruelty.

[@lenar.4735]

Character Bazarov (Fathers and Sons) embodies this rigid and materialistic approach to life. Humanist Turgenev gave him an infatuation with a beautiful woman and a slow death, to help reflect on his radical views.

[@jomana1109]

It’s fascinating how being given the same amount of days and years to spend can yield utterly irreconcilable outcomes.

[@ProdigalSon684]

Sowing

[@H_Hold]

​@@ProdigalSon684I believe both spellings' are correct. Sew typically refers to fabric while sow refers to the farming act of planting but I've read sewing applied to farming as well.

[@rustyshackelford934]

Turgenev was incredibly intelligent and perceptive and saw exactly where all this shit would take us. While writing some of the most beautiful novels in the Russian tradition.

[@andrewsteventon393]

It took me more than two days to watch this video, having to stop every few minutes to digest each bit of wisdom it contained. It was like enjoying a seven course meal, and every morsel was delicious.

[@AFringedGentianToEnnien]

You know, Dr. Peterson, I studied a bit of Marx in university. And I had a classmate who insisted I was WRONG about Marx and Marxism. It makes my blood run cold to think of it. I connect Marx in my thoughts with the Man of Sin in St. Paul’s second epistle to Thessalonians, who opposed and exalts himself above all that is called God, sitting in the temple of God showing himself that he is God. And I was taught that the Man of Sin is the physical embodiment of the Abomination of Desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet and Our Lord. Being that this is a more difficult podcast it will have to wait until my kids, worn out from a day of swimming and catching frogs and playing on their scooters and going for ice cream, have a (HOPEFULLY) early bedtime. With so very very much love from Ruth Anne

[@kellyw8017]

If you don't have time, note that you can listen at a higher speed. I regularly listen at 1.5 speed. The control is in KZbin itself.

[@AFringedGentianToEnnien]

⁠​⁠@@kellyw8017time isn’t the issue, it’s that some of the things Dr. Peterson is discussing in this podcast are a bit mature for my kids. They’re elementary school age and I don’t want them overhearing some of this.

[@carolineramage7480]

​@@AFringedGentianToEnnienwireless headphones are the best

[@MrMonikura]

Why are our higher institution praising Woke/LBGT whatever? Same deception!

[@jus4000kicks]

@@AFringedGentianToEnnien Makes sense.

[@GrandMasterArtMason]

On March 14th 1883, Karl Marx made his greatest contribution to the world, HE DIED.

[@pjl8119]

😂😂😂👏👏👏

[@alanalycan3986]

👏👏

[@johnmartin2813]

He would have done better if he'd abandoned his ridiculous philosophy before he did so. And pointed out all its weaknesses .

[@caveymoley]

Interesting; March 14th 1883 3.141 = (Pi) 8x8 = 64 (age when he died) 3 = (the number of children he left behind? maybe?)

[@stephenrsmith4175]

Jordan's video just started. I'm inclined to indicate to you, the viewer, that he is one of the smartest men I know. He is an online mentor for me. Every time I watch one of his broadcasts, I learn, I grow and I'm captivated by his honesty and integrity. 4.07

[@jackrose5077]

That letter that marx’s father wrote him is heart breaking. Definitely a plea from father to a son to be happy and let go of the childish rage that his son posses.

[@pjl8119]

All self-styled 'revolutionaries' are spoiled kidults with mummy and daddy issues.

[@66fredo99]

The inner rage has a spiritual origin..it emerged from Marx's father's abandonment of Judaism for Lutheranism because of the economic advantages it brought. Young Karl was old enough to have had a bar-mitzvah (he didn't) however this important covenant ritual, a type of holy covering, exposed Karl's brilliance of mind and soul to demonic forces. Karl becomes callous, irresponsible, evil-natured, and subjugates all things spiritual to economics from then on.

[@muhaunawa3028]

A father fails to teach a son to walk in good ways, he now pleads with the son to change his ways. Who is to blame? The son or the father?

[@carlgrant6109]

Both.

[@VicSellsPeace]

God uses the foolish to shame the wise, and the weak to shame the strong

[@Anonymous_Whisper]

You are a fool

[@MommaLousKitchen]

Everything's polarity. Balance.

[@smartypants4571]

By God do you mean Satan ? 👺👹💀☠️💩✌️

[@VicSellsPeace]

@@smartypants4571 1 Corinthians 1:27 but God has chosen the foolish things of the world to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to shame the things which are strong,

[@ReshonBryant]

Looks like Marx was never washed white as snow🤔

[@matthewphelps5136]

This is what makes the Internet great. Thank you both

[@Cander617]

These men are a lot alike. This is so interesting, I'm more engaged in this conversation than I was in any class I've taken, ever.

[@TeporingoObrero]

Satanism is not worshiping the devil, it is worshipping yourself: Atheism. The devil knows how a man destroys himself. The “Satanic Bible” reads: There is only one commandment: Do what you want.

[@davidbolen8982]

The surest way to complete misery is to think and feel about yourself all the time. Very good point.

[@gordianknot6867]

Satan means adversary, it’s anything which rivals god but all roads lead to the same result. Biblically the earliest form of satan worship is the worshipping of pagan gods such as Baal and Moloch. The rituals are described as bargaining with self harm, human sacrifice etc secular history shows many cultures also performed sex rituals and taking primitive concoction’s (drugs).

[@gordianknot6867]

Satan means adversary, it’s anything which rivals god. The earliest form of satanism was pagan worship of baal and moloch. All roads lead to the same results.

[@paulsaulpaul]

Six is the number of man, and to repeat it three times is like to uplift it to holy status. It is the mark of pride in one's self like the individual ego becoming a Tower of Babel. And it eventually falls like that tower. That is the fate of men that pretend to be gods. That is one interpretation of the mark, and the one that I use: 7 signifying God's perfection. 6 being short of it and next to God. "Holy" is repeated three times in Revelation chapter 4 when the living creatures worshiped God. So to repeat 6 three times is a mark of ultimate pride. It is worshiping the self.

[@THEBATZZ]

I continue to hear that , it’s the worship of one self that’s akin to evil , and that that was what turned satan against god. Trippy stuff man.

[@Jmpsrd]

This outta be a College course! This is PHENOMENAL I say title it as “Antichrist Dogma 101”

[@paulgranelli7850]

I say this as JP fan since 2015. JP is getting better at letting the guest speak, but still some room to improve. Speaks over the guest too often. At times, it's warranted but i would prefer if he interruptes them less. Timing is everything. Thanks for what you do JP

[@33greenleaf]

JP is incredibly impressed with himself, and deservedly so.

[@daves7104]

I do agree sometime as early in this interview we missed a line that Marx idolised and JP knew what it was and commented on it bit we missed what the line was.. by Faust, if I spelled that right

[@Ytvzoey]

I dunno I kind of like when he interrupts - he’s usually when he’s connecting ideas and I think his best insights come out. But I guess it’s just personal preference. He plays intellectual tennis with his guests and I really enjoy watching it.

[@daves7104]

@@Ytvzoey yew I do agree but when we missed the line Kengor was talking about because JP knew the line and then went on to comment about it we didn't actually get to hear the line. Doesn't stop this being a brilliant interview though.. just something that slipped through the cracks, that's all.

[@anairenemartinez165]

​@@YtvzoeyHe is usually ahead of everybody, intellectually speaking, probably he is not even aware of it.

[@nhmooytis7058]

I prefer Groucho. Karl’s jokes never land.

[@onliwankannoli]

*honk honk*

[@bobtaylor170]

Honk honk.

[@kaseyfluckiger8151]

Karl's best joke was The Money, though...

[@nebwachamp]

Karl Marx is funny but not funny ha ha.

[@smw1193]

Groucho tells jokes, Karl is a joke.

[@davidlarsen6175]

Excellent discussion, everything is Spiritual! Guaranteed!

[@ilil813]

"Build back better " does ring all the alarms

[@RendeRboy3d]

Wow, now I am realizing how much impact in my life this man had. When I was influenced by post modern philosophy and marxism (I read nothing but I was under the influence anyway) I was exactly like that. More filthy, disorderly, my life was a mess, and I was ungrateful with my parents despite I was asking for money all the time

[@LackofFaithify]

Ahh, classic. Not really but somehow being adjacent on a book shelf to unread Marx made me do it. Ironclad. Careful of those people with that genocidal slant in their house clutter.

[@Khorinis139andLennox-dd2yc]

Respect! That you now can see and formulate your errors and try to do better. That shows true greatness.

[@wheel-man5319]

The ideas of Marx seem to entirely pollute the educational system of the west. Maybe they're watered down to socialism, but a careful look will show that socialism and communism are conjoined twins sharing an evil and twisted heart, and therefore they can't be separated no matter how expert the surgeon.

[@GizzelleBrookes-vs5ec]

I tried to save this video in my folders and they took it out. I had the long version. Excellent discussion.

[@judet3026]

What an extraordinary conversation. This would rank as my all time favorite from JP.

[@thecrew777]

I consider myself more educated than before I watched this. Thank you.

[@northstar2621]

​@@larrysmith2123 Not you. What did you gain with this comment?

[@roelcacho9730]

Dr. Peterson bigfan from Hawaii. Fave psychologist. Mabuhay ang intellektualismong Cristiano❤

[@peterharstad3037]

Please have him again. Excellent discussion.

[@Shailesh.Sidhhartha]

So excited for you to hit the 8 million!! The world needs you!

[@johnnyhogan5880]

These intermittent ads need to stop. These guys are having a real educational and factual talk here.

[@zachinthehat1]

This video is being provided to the public for free. I think it’s much better to have the ads than have this behind a paywall

[@lebenergy247]

I find this conversation so astonishing and beautiful. Well at the same time sad and heartbreaking

[@scottmcley5111]

Marx was to poetry, what Hitler was to painting.

[@LouiseDay-bd4qi]

Yes .I thought the same they can not create only destroy. Frustrated creative impulse inverted.

[@flayteatorrante7588]

Both were of Jewish descent, but Hitler worked and sold some drawings.

[@locosbarbas]

Marx wasnt a poet lol wtf. He was a writer/philosopher.

[@scottmcley5111]

@locosbarbas So the poems about death were gathered from a Cherrios cereal box? Perhaps cracker Jack's?

[@locosbarbas]

@@scottmcley5111 Lol man its just dark poetry with mentions of the devil in it. Nothing special , should we label every type of dark and devilish art as satanism? So horror movie creators , Heavy Metal bands and many more actual good poets of varius different times are all satanists right? Grow up.

[@magicbirch7406]

I like that this guy knew the distinction between heavy metal and black metal

[@zaidalsabea2716]

Thank you JP. It is a treat to have such smart and informative people on your show, promoting essential readings, offering insightful opinions and viewpoints, and all of this for free

[@johnkaylor8670]

This is a phenomenal dissertation on so many aspects of evil. It is a MUST for everyone to ingest and absorb in order to expand their full comprehension of the disease of darkness. After watching this exchange I more deeply appreciate Jesus' proclamation to us (paraphrased) "I am the light". Boy is the Light beautiful after descending into this dissection of human evil.

[@pelicanphuucker4life]

Fascinating conversation between two fascinating men. I'm interested in reading this book.

[@koelbird4608]

Marx has so much to answer for it seems. The woke culture today is straight out of Marx's early philosophy!!

[@martinburrows6844]

Herbert Marcuse and the Frankfurt school, reimagined marx ideas with psychology, making social justice with it's leaning on shame based progressivism.

[@ToriZealot]

Just keep believing this nonsense instead of solving real world problems

[@dorijoe]

Yes and that's terrifying. Satan is having a good run.

[@vanguardian2864]

Then it’s the woke who should answer for Marx’s sins.

[@bernadettemcenteehart5901]

It’s those who enact these ideas who have responsibility to thus day.

[@randiknefel3507]

The was such a rich and interesting conversation. Very little now a days can hold completely undivided attention. Bless you both and thank you for the conversation.

[@phoenixgirl9467]

Thank you Jordan and Paul for this extremely informative conversation!!! This needs to be blaring out of every radio & TV!! It needs to be on every social media platform, every news app, every video platform in every country on Earth!!!

[@celysees]

This is Jordan Peterson's Masterclass. Thank you so much.

[@kateriebarnard6733]

The one conversation that literally everyone should watch.

[@MetalGearTenno]

Great guest and discussion. Very informative and thought provoking.

[@spandsbab]

Please teach these to all universities and colleges!

[@KatyYoder-cq1kc]

too late

[@moefoh96]

JP's podcast is one of the few that i can actually watch and listen to all of the way thru without getting distracted or watching something else.⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️. And im not exactly some genius with undivided attention.

[@lasenoradelacruz]

This is the best conversation I have ever heard.

[@markteague8889]

9:40. 9:40 Wasn’t it Winston Churchill who said, “The inherent vice of Capitalism is the unequal sharing of its blessings, while the inherent vice of Communism is the equal sharing of its miseries?”

[@christophersnedeker]

Depends on what we mean by comminism.

[@James-il3tq]

Goes well with the well-known motto of Socialism "If we can't be rich let's all be equally poor".

[@sanniepstein4835]

Except that the powerful do quite nicely in communism.

[@jackrose5077]

@@christophersnedekercan’t really imagine that there are any variations really when it comes to Communism, so I’d imagine he meant, communism communism, nothing to get confused about there.

[@madisonlebeau217]

​@christophersnedeker I'm glad that you recognize that there's a lot more nuance to communism than most people acknowledge. There's many forms and they all have their own specific faults.

[@whowhowhowhowhowho8139]

Never knew this about Marx, how come none said this before.

[@sheridansherr8974]

..probably this information was intentionally hidden...

[@dorijoe]

Propaganda. The devil is a propagandist. Marx represents the intellect of the devil on Earth. It's used against God, love, humanity. You attack life with a narrative. You choose destruction of the intellect too. God's intellect is superior. God is not a propgandist. Marxism is a brain disease, a hypnosis.

[@nkotur]

This is a common knowlege in free world and i am not sarcastic.

[@VladZ972]

If you’re in the US like me, we already live in a socialist democracy. The powers that be would rather not let us know that we are already living in a dark country. I thought communism was a scary word before.

[@nkotur]

@@VladZ972 American who using logic? Rare breed. Nice to meet you Владимир.

[@GizzelleBrookes-vs5ec]

Excellent discussion and should be extremely revealing for those with an open mind to see things clearly as they are. Bravo!

[@theodosios2615]

Everyone needs to read Dr. Kengor's book. I had to stop reading about 2/3 of the way through. I was just too sickened to continue.

[@David_Drums]

The comment about Marx's hatred of his father made me curious if there is a correlation between paternal hatred and communist belief structures. It seems correct from anecdotal evidence from my interactions with people growing up. Anyone else experience a similar trend?

[@dirtyxwordxreich2114]

This would be good to explore. Great observation.

[@peterlynley]

Mao also hated his father and spoke in front of others about his fantasies of torturing him. (his father was dead by then I believe)

[@Ben-sb1xu]

I hate mine because they are woke communists 😢

[@williamkoscielniak7871]

@@peterlynley As did Hitler. Not a communist obviously but nevertheless.

[@marinahellermann]

Sure children belong to the state Hitler, Trudeau Stalin we heard it

[@edh.9584]

The Germans love poetry. Dichter und Dichtung.

[@jamesgall475]

Everyone should watch this and Jesus Christ is King ❤

[@GrandpaOnATunedScooter]

Hail Satan

[@jamesgall475]

@@GrandpaOnATunedScooter God bless you ❤️

[@garileejordan736]

Keep chasing a Jewish ghost.

[@Richard_Paradise]

I have been digesting this talk for about 6 hours.

[@GabrielleTollerson]

God bless Jordan Peterson!

[@jeffbilyard7848]

Wow. This is why history is so important and why we need to study it not to make the same mistakes twice or not to go down the wrong path again.👍🙏

[@LoveQuestWithLisaConcepcion]

Uh yeah but the problem is the public education system was created by satanists ... Rockefeller...

[@Leesultra]

History doesn't repeat itself....but it does rhyme. 😊

[@janeenchambers3297]

Wow, such an enlightening conversation. I'm grateful for it!

[@fightwithfaith2872]

Thanks!

[@DaveOganesyan]

Swapping out my front headlights while listening to this discussion. Time flew by and I almost got it done. (some asshole worked on them previously and hid some bolts in my front bumper to hold it up flush with the lights and I want to find him now to tell him how much I loved his work on my car) Thanks Dr.Peterson and Kengor!

[@garileejordan736]

Really. Swapping out headlights? I wished I thought of doing that!

[@wesleycristman3278]

I’m currently reading this book. Marx (and Lenin) is an absolute PSYCHOPATH in every sense of the word.

[@August10ish]

Outstanding interview.

[@jaynehunter6937]

I always love JBP's interviews, but this one was really memorable, will be watching it again. Thanks so much

[@attilav.8749]

This conversation needed so much Jordan! Also Albert Pikes' life work should be explained by you guys. James Lindsay and Paul Kengor always make this podcast sensational! 👌

[@scottwhitley1573]

Yessir, good idea

[@louisewilkinson766]

AWESOME SPOT ON GUYS WELL DONE ! 🎉🎉🎉

[@anialiandr]

In the recent Darkhorse podcast Heather Weinstein said: Utopia contrasts with biology. She read a text comparing the prison of Utopia with how human beings are more inclined to seek adventure and the discomfort it brings

[@afattori316]

JP is a world treasure and he’s become more amazing after finding God and building a relationship with him and Christ. Heavenly Father and Jesus please protect this man spreading your truth and fighting Lucifer and his demons.

[@CaminandoConEl]

This video needs to be translated to Spanish and many other languages. People deserve to know the history behind the man whose ideas destroyed so many lives.

[@mattcahoe8311]

At 46:33 the quote he is looking for is “The emancipation of the Jews, in the final analysis, is the emancipation of mankind from Judaism.”

[@june52005]

Dang. And meanwhile Jews fought to keep their religious practices despite the fatal risks of living under the Soviets. And I know some of the descendants of those who fought to keep their faith alive. They survived and thrived while the Soviets fell.

[@Poputnyk]

My family kept the faith in Soviet Russia, despite the risks.

[@peterpedersen3988]

I'm not a fan of Marx. But to be fair, one should also add that this text about the "Judenfrage" was also a text about the possibility for the emancipation of the jews. And that the problem he (and Bruno Bauer) saw was the problem of the Jews always separating themselves from the people of a given state, and especially so from a christian state. In a way, they both were arguing (with Feuerbach) that both religions, judaism and christianity, should be replaced by a form of humanism. And this humanism would reach its utmost height by understanding / critiquing the material / economic basis of a given society. Thus, Marx concludes, the thing we (!) jews have to learn is to give up judaism, so that we can be emancipated into a state of humanism. This is what he says. And in this sense, the quote above was an almost hegelian and dialectic critique of the kinds of contradictions, which exist and result from the encounter of the jewish people with a christian society / state. That is what I would like to add, because it was not spoken of within the interview.

[@relly793]

Marx Jew alinsky Jew bolsheviks jew makes you wonder

[@june52005]

@peterpedersen3988 yes I've heard this argument before. Sadly it is naive and giving up the Jewish identity has never worked out for us.

[@williamgrierson4133]

Thank you soooo much for the great conversation.

[@stephanieclaudio_]

This should be a mandatory video in public schools. I also find it adorable that they are just chatting, learning, and agreeing on how much deeper this Karl Marx ideology stems from. Especially it involving darker forces. Thanks Dr. Jordan and Dr. Paul!

[@Un-Apologetix]

Love Dr. Kengor! He was a great guest on Pints with Aquinas, too!

[@johnwheeler3071]

Dr Kengoor sounds very interesting and sounds closer to the truth than those who view Marx as a fair guy looking out for the best interests of the many. Thanks for the heads up, I'm definitely going to check out the Pints with Aquinas interview.