BILL C-63 - Everything You Need to Know | Bruce Pardy & Konstantin Kisin | EP 442

[@artistjuliadocherty]

“Hate speech is ugly, but people do in fact hate each other! And if they are not allowed to say so, well then their speech is not free.” STUNNING. ABSOLUTELY stunning. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@je__.]

and granted it would lead to an actual vioence

[@WalkToPoland]

when all you have left is to fight, or to flee then maybe we're just being subject to the wrong game altogether at that point. Psyops everywhere.

[@FJB2020LGB]

If someone does hate you but they’re not allowed to say so, how can anyone possibly overcome their differences? Perhaps that’s the point

[@buildmotosykletist1987]

@@je__. : Why would it "lead to actual violence" ???

[@chrisklaeffling1]

Completely true!!

[@javiersds8081]

If I'm not mistaken, Bruce Pardy was one of the very few that supported Jordan Peterson from the very beginning when he opposed bill C-16. Good guy.

[@jon123xyz]

Yes he was. See Jordan's speech at Queen's Uni.

[@crazyforcanada]

Your opinion might be different if you understood law, and saw everything Pardy has to say.

[@just-a-generic-username]

Yes, he hosted Dr. Peterson for a debate at Queen's University back in 2018. Glad to see they're still in contact.

[@SusanLane-x6l]

Sounds like some people need to grow a pair

[@zsomborczoma]

Hats off to Mr. Kisin. He sat there, listening intently and everytime he interjected, it added to the conversation.

[@richo8475]

The Canadian guy really like to hear his own voice. He would make a point and then filibuster it by adding to it and adding to it and adding to it when I think everybody watching this thing was thinking let Kisin speak. Free Kisin. .

[@suzetteccc]

I would like to have heard more from him...😕

[@yogisub8648]

@@richo8475 To be fair, they were speaking about uniquely Canadian issues.

[@RutgersSieve]

Kisin didn't belong. Not the first time. Guess being protected by MI6 makes you special, or something.

[@sevilliane]

He certainly did. I would have liked to hear more about what he said towards the end about absolute freedom. If living on the streets is freedom.

[@mischa1880]

During my lunch in a Canadian restaurant I overheard three white teachers (one man and two women) talking about white privilege and "what has to be done about it". One woman did most of the talking, the other two agreed with everything. Honestly, I thought I get a heart attack. Those stupid people are teaching kids in our schools ?! Seriously??? I came to Canada 40 years ago from former Czechoslovakia in 1984 (!!!), and now it feels like I am living in Orwell's 1984. This is crazy!!! What is happening to this country???? My daughter thinks that things are not bad yet, but she is not stupid and understands that one day either her or her kids will want to leave Canada.

[@Hagen838]

It is indeed nightmarish.

[@Mowglibaloo2]

Christ is king

[@Jukilady]

But all countries will have this law, so where do we go then.

[@scottcarey5635]

I had a very rough childhood.I don't stay quiet anymore.I challenge their thinking.

[@tonyc223]

Do not accept this . Get rid of the current socialist government.

[@alexmeier1]

Men need to speak up. Risk is necessary for freedom.

[@AndyRing-wo3ty]

I absolutely concur.

[@sergiu9984]

F that! We had struggled sessions against us since 2015 with women rising against us to blame us for all the illnesses on this planet. ...and then other races and sex orientations and religions. We have been taken out... May those who have been lifted above make a just world... And if not ...the woman can enjoy the dystonia ...we will be dead soon ...by poverty or war

[@conanthebarb9194]

Men need to take back control from women. Women and the way they skirt responsibility and take no accountability is the reason we are all in this mess.

[@saltchuckwest]

Women need to stop mothering adults instead of having a family.

[@CharlesLambert137]

Easier said than done.

[@shawnerinleclerc5326]

You're not alone - my husband is a Canadian lawyer that agrees with you and many of his lawyer friends feel the same.

[@margaretbleakley8526]

Please speak up then, go to the media

[@scoro8675]

So who are they afraid of. Who's running their system. FMasnry? (It can't just be Marxist groupthink alone)

[@carolmcgann383]

I have not heard of any lawyers forming a group to fight back against this and we are 4 years into this.

[@carolmcgann383]

No we are in a commerce designed law called maritime law based from central banks

[@RR-et6zp]

they think the same

[@marionbacon5821]

Glad you had Bruce Pardy on…a great Canadian fighting for our Rights.

[@devilsoffspring5519]

Fighting for your rights requires firepower, not words. I pity the fool who thinks freedom and rights comes from words and legislation.

[@creed22solar123]

@@devilsoffspring5519 what century do you live in, can I join you there? Here in the year of our Lord 2024 they've got drones that can snipe you before you even pull out your peashooter.

[@JagadguruSvamiVegananda]

human rights: In most cases, it seems that this term refers to certain (often vague) moral or legal entitlements that humans possess in relation to having or obtaining something, or to act in a certain way. This phrase has been used increasing more ubiquitously over the past century or so, with the implication that every human being, without exception, has identical and inalienable entitlements. However, this is a very obvious fallacy, as it invariably ignores the hierarchy of society. For example, very few persons would doubt that parents have the right to discipline their children. However, their children OBVIOUSLY do not have the converse right, to chastize or instruct their parents. Therefore, it is nonsensical to speak of human rights in general, when each and every individual person has unique rights, depending on his or her place in the hierarchy of society. The notion of rights is intimately intertwined with morality (or to be more accurate, the concept of dharma). So, in the above example, it is in accordance with morality/dharma for a parent to disciple his or her children, and if required, administer some form of punishment. However, it would be objectively immoral for a child of any age (even a geriatric) to admonish his or her parents, except, perhaps, if a parent was afflicted with a disease or disability that inhibited the parent’s cognitive capabilities, such as dementia. Cf. “dharma”. According to a criminal organisation called the “United Nations”, there are thirty so-called “human rights”, listed in a document entitled “Universal Declaration of Human Rights”, but objectively speaking, only a couple of the listed articles of “rights” are predicated on the only ONE and ONLY human right, and that is the right for any person (that is any human being or non-human animal) to not be harmed unjustifiably. As is to be expected of a declaration by a bunch of deluded, ignorant fools, there is nowhere in the preamble any semblance of a stated definition of “human rights”. This is practically a universal occurrence in the fields of sociology, law, philosophy, ethics, and even in the so-called hard sciences. Just see the dramatic contrast between almost every academic essay paper and thesis/book ever published, compared with this Book of All Books! In order to be charitable to that evil body, the United Nations, it is probably fortuitous that they failed to proffer a definition of “rights”, since the “definition” that they are likely to have conjured-up in their feeble intellects would be incompetent, if not truly laughable.

[@yourlocalbudtend3r]

@@devilsoffspring5519 Agreed, I've been saying this for a while. Unfortunately, the people here are only good at turning the cheek so they can get slapped twice.

[@GillGrossPredictionTracker]

As an alumni of Queens University (professor Pardy’s employer), I can say that he shines brightly as a beacon representing diversity of thought. While my alma mater is far from perfect, their decision to work with professor Pardy has always been a pride point of mine.

[@fergieferg71]

Imagine if Bruce Pardy and JP were your university profs. We are so lucky to have them on here for free

[@danielgilleland8611]

The genius of "limited government" is that we stop government from having powers that exceed their wisdom.

[@MARIEFONG-q7q]

Well said!

[@dionbram]

"The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern: every class is unfit to govern." ~ Lord Acton "The ideal Government of all reflective men, from Aristotle onward, is one which lets the individual alone - one which barely escapes being no government at all." ~H. L. Mencken

[@shotenzenjin16]

Fecking spot-on 😮

[@mikeguilmette776]

Unfortunately, many in the younger generations do not want limited government. They want a government that will take care of them, feed them, pay off their student loans and punish anyone who hurts their feelings.

[@KeiichiTheOtaku]

@@dionbram I believe Acton's adage could be slightly expanded on: the only class potentially fit to govern is that of parents, and their fiefdom extends no further than their own family and property. Many different types of government can work at that scale, even communism.

[@earlliotti5316]

I am thankful that, at least while the society is crumbling apart, I may still listen to these intelligent people have productive conversations. Thank you.

[@farmerarmwrestling]

Konstantin is the man! One of the few British voices making sense right now and always raises the right issues

[@thesybe]

Unfortunately he never got to talk... Very poorly done on Jordan's part.

[@renataherrera3125]

@@thesybeagree, I saw it all waiting for his intervention

[@Mamothrept]

​@@thesybe It seems Jordan had invited him to take part much more than just this conversation, considering the teasers I've seen of Konstantin being asked to play devils advocate on Jordans book tour. I think this is amazing and very healthy for Jordan behind (and in front of) the scenes.

[@justahuman2244]

Agree, he’s a force of nature, hopefully he had more air time in subsequent recordings.

[@ZOA360]

This is exactly what we need. We need more professors and legal voices discussing these policies and laws in the west. Please keep hosting these talks

[@crazyforcanada]

There is such a thing as fraud on the law, you know. Just because people discuss "legal things" doesn't mean they are right, and doesn't mean they aren't manipulating their listeners for hidden agendas.

[@TheMrTEA-dc2eb]

"All animals are equal! But some animals are more equal than others."

[@Investing-qg7xo]

Crazy how true that has become

[@TheMrTEA-dc2eb]

@Investing-qg7xo We spent some time on "Animal Farm" in school. Our teacher focused on the representation of Communism. Have you read anything by Dr. Thomas Sowell? He goes on about the "intelligencia."

[@Investing-qg7xo]

@@TheMrTEA-dc2eb yes, his basic economics should be required reading for all high school students

[@TheMrTEA-dc2eb]

@Investing-qg7xo I picked up, "Ever Wonder Why?" and I love how humorous Dr. Sowell's explanations are. Thank you for the civil exchange.

[@Investing-qg7xo]

@@TheMrTEA-dc2eb all the best friend!

[@Nicky_Brens]

Thank you Jordan! Canadians would be lost without you ♥️

[@jordankashuba3467]

We are lost now. We need the good Dr to run for office

[@crazyforcanada]

They ARE lost. Because they think they aren't.

[@do9297]

"This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector." - Plato

[@dianawigod3223]

Plato called it!

[@IntoTheUnknownnnnnnn]

Who is the tyrant?

[@tonyshiakallis7878]

I had no idea who Bruce Pardy was until today, but I am very happy to listen to this man talk. Kostantin is a fantastic guest, I hope you have him back on the show soon.

[@kbarkid]

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Benjamin Franklin

[@accesschilly]

deserve neither and will lose both

[@Refertech101]

and will usually lose both.

[@trailblazer632]

Seeing what is happening in our lives and hearing how the founders of the us talked about governments you get to see just how insanely intelligent and well thought out their ideas were. I fully recall reading into the founders and their discussions when i was a younger teen and thinking these were some pretty smart guys, now i go back and think these guys werent smart. They were literal geniuses. Men that had taken the ideas fully to the end of the line to see what the consequences were in nearly all cases.

[@straightfrommissouri]

inspiring quote from a trustworthy freemason

[@Scooter_8484]

If people want total security it would look something like jail

[@vbell2536]

I wanted Konstantin to be more a part of this conversation. I wanted to hear more from him and don't feel that room was made for him. That be said, as a Canadian, I appreciated the breakdown and analysis of the bill by Mr Pardy and Dr P. Thank you!

[@thesybe]

Same. I wasn't a fan of how the discussion was conducted.

[@nilsbrown7996]

Given there was a national conversation on a Canadian crisis one of the interlocutors is being directly affected by, and given a brilliant expert on that particular crisis had a primo opportunity to hold forth, I think Konstantine’s level of contribution was entirely appropriate and probably intentional. His presence is very much appreciated however, and what he said was very sharp indeed.

[@65ayirp]

Same. Why include him if he’s barely speaking? It would be better to have a separate interview with him.

[@angelafraser1603]

Clear laws required. Thank you Bruce Pardy. As a former internal auditor (SK) I can attest that there are inherent perverse incentives toward increasing legal and regulatory complexity.

[@hintonoriginal]

What are they?

[@Extreme_Prejudice]

@@hintonoriginal if you either intimately know and understand the use of the relevant knowledge OR have a buddy/employee who does; the power you can have over other people is scary once you understand the implications of that @angelafraser1603 @hintonoriginal

[@Refertech101]

@@hintonoriginal profit and power

[@roastghost901]

In the public/regulatory sector, it is primarily power and prestige instead of profit, as bureaucrats are paid a salary based on position level (no distributed profits to be had in the public sector). The more funds, staff, responsibility and scope of work managed or directed by a regulator the higher the salary and prestige in the role. Most public sector employees loathe to downsize their department even when staff are under-utilised. Instead, under utilised staff will be encouraged to work toward increasing the frequency or amount of oversight, or increase the requirements or complexity to the regulation. This will bring interest, depth, breadth (etc) to their work, which feels good to them, but it definitely increases the regulatory burden without improving the outcomes or matching the purpose of the initial regulation.

[@trent4barnes]

People like Pardy, Peterson, Sowell, Ramaswamy, should be admired for their clear thinking and courage to speak out.

[@RichardEnglander]

The Three Slogans of The Uniparty: SPEECH IS VIOLENCE FREEDOM IS DANGER DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH

[@taraosborne4559]

Also Slava Ukraine 😏

[@fahimp3]

@@taraosborne4559 Canada has multiple viable parties unlike the US. The "Uniparty" charge is tired... 🙄

[@birsay123]

This is terrifying 😮

[@RichardEnglander]

@@fahimp3 in UK we have only the illusion of democratic choice, the powerful play both sides, the supranational top-down imposition of The Uniparty happens no matter who is elected. Our leaders prefer WEF to Westminster. The Uniparty always wins. Yeah, it is tired. We need Revolution.

[@walkingcontradiction223]

@@fahimp3 Because you have more flavors of ice cream doesn't mean that someone didn't milk the bull.. Fancy a milkshake?

[@je__.]

"some harm is a consequence of freedom and thats the price we're willing to pay" amen

[@stvbrsn]

Every time (in the last 10 years or so) when I hear *yet more* about the re-jiggering of our language, I pull out my standard one-liner joke… it goes something like this: “Oh sorry, I don’t understand. You see, I haven’t yet received my latest copy of the Newspeak dictionary… I’m still using the 1983 edition.”

[@Reichaus]

2+2=5

[@ROG-123]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ROG-123]

Gold comment haha!!!

[@dionbram]

Great line, I hope I can remember it if the opportunity arises. Along the same lines, I am frequently reminded of this quote: "Ah, this is obviously some strange usage of the word 'safe' that I wasn't previously aware of." -Douglas Adams Cults use your vocabulary, but they don't use your dictionary.

[@stvbrsn]

@@dionbram oh, you’re gonna quote Arthur Dent at me? Well for that, you can feel free to use the line whenever you want!

[@michael-m]

As a Canadian, this one was so important. Great conversation

[@AFringedGentianToEnnien]

I am… not glad, but grateful, that you are tackling this issue with Bruce and Konstantin, Dr. Peterson, and even more grateful you have them fighting beside you. When I get weary of worrying about my country I turn around and worry about yours, because a change is as good as a rest, they say. I do declare plainly that I seek a country, that is, an heavenly, and believe that God has prepared for us a city (Hebrews 11) but would like a little less authoritarianism here. I came out of authoritarian religious system and I am sick at heart when I see the exact same patterns as I saw there played out in the broader world. So dearly looking forward to see you in Boston and did I mention, I’m bringing a friend? With Ruth Anne’s love.

[@thomasryan6545]

Please have Bruce on more often, I can listen to him talk for hours.

[@samanthamoir7673]

The idea that kids from 3 detest snitches isn’t true anymore. My son got called into the principals office after having issues with a classmate, he wasn’t at fault but refused to tell. He said Mum, I’m no snitch. I high fived him but explained we needed context. It’s not the case with the leftie kids. My son’s teacher explained most kids are being told if anyone says - 1 thing - that hurts your feelings, tell a teacher straight away. This same teacher explained how concerned she was, these kids have no resilience, negotiation skills or ability to rise above words. The culture is changing in the classroom about ‘telling on them’. Making hurt feelings a currency and to seek intervention immediately from an authority. This is in Australia.

[@JagadguruSvamiVegananda]

Well, it's wonderful in my home country of AUSTRALIA - the people are all very humble, religious and respectful folk. Oh, and incidentally, pigs can fly.🤪

[@grammadrm4974]

Feelings should never count as a reason. I think all parents should read "the gulag archipelago". Family turning on family!!

[@waynotraffo9221]

Remember people called the police on their neighbors for having people over during 2020-2021 and were happy with themselves...

[@grammadrm4974]

@@waynotraffo9221 Shameful to rat out a neighbor for minor things!! Drug sales, making explosives, assaulting someone or hurting children, I understand!!

[@blumusik9572]

Canadian schooling culture is the same. Its a weird kind of preoccupation and nurturing of victimhood.

[@sarahbefrank.3364]

These two guests should have been interviewed separately so they would have had equal time. When bruce said he has had a suspicion of authority for as long as he can remember , I became his biggest fan.

[@oliveirabrown2503]

Yes. Kissen is 10x better than the other

[@RutgersSieve]

@@oliveirabrown2503If you love British Intelligence talking points with a smattering of 'barely anti-woke', sure.

[@the1beard]

A world of health and safety ... Gone MAD

[@johnsmithers8913]

I read about the insanity of the Soviet Union and Mao's China and it's so cruelly bizarre that you almost break out laughing. The utter stupidity and viciousness of those governments and of the common people were unfathomable. I thought it could never happen here. But I was wrong, and I am even seeing it in people who I know and love. There is this darkness that is settling on the West.

[@midmomom2490]

@@johnsmithers8913Well said & I totally agree

[@josiahr1375]

@@johnsmithers8913 At least in America (USA) there are people who will be taking up arms when SHTF. In Canada people are just rolling over. They have been for some times. The ones with a spine and sense leave.

[@SkullTradez]

As Canadians let’s take a page out of Scotland’s playbook and IF this law gets through, we should all immediately and anonymously report PMJT for his hateful rhetoric and repeated face painting crimes Keep it up for several months, and They will be so overwhelmed by the hundreds of thousands of complaints as to render the law useless

[@AFringedGentianToEnnien]

Just finished the Daily Wire section and find myself a bit more hopeful and cheerful than when I finished this bit. I do think that we can believe in the triumph of the human spirit over tyranny. I think that humanity needs something to push back against and fight against. And that the draconian and dystopian laws that are being implemented all over the world are giving human ingenuity and resilience and desire for liberty something to fight back against. We’ve had things so good here in the West and perhaps the existential threats all around will waken us out of complacency and call us to war. Dearest Dr. Peterson, I thought you looked and sounded exceptionally exhausted here. Your speech had those little pauses and hesitations I associate with the time you were so sick. I know you have no notion of resting. I just wanted to say I care about you and your well-being is very dear on my heart. Please don’t neglect the things that refill your spirit, like music and art and good reading. We can’t lose sight of the good things that we are fighting for. With Ruth Anne’s love

[@hughmac13]

Which "draconian and dystopian laws that are being implemented all over the world" are you referring to?

[@mariaguzman1552]

Yes, Dr Peterson please take care of yourself and enjoy time with your wife and family. We are living in crazy times.

[@ohwellwhateverr]

⁠@@hughmac13 From this side of the pond, there are Orwellian “Hate Speech” laws being rolled out in Scotland and the Republic of Ireland and which have a very one-sided definition of hate, “Low Emissions Zones” are being rolled out that impede on the personal autonomy of the working classes, Germany just passed the “Self-Determination Act” that fines people €10,000 for “dead-naming” trans-identifying people, meanwhile we’ve had six months of Islamists being allowed to shut down entire blocks of major cities while Jews get told by police to go away because their presence is a provocation. We’re living in 1930s Berlin.

[@Jukilady]

I agree, I think Jordan is looking I’ll again. Let’s pray for him and his family. Amen.

[@kathym.248]

@@mariaguzman1552 His spring tour looks grueling. How lovely and kind of you folks to be caring so much. I fear too he's driven to do what he can, while he can.

[@dennismarshall5993]

The worst medical malpractice was how most the world handled COVID-19.

[@SwitchTalkChannel]

Depends on how things unfold over the next 30 years. My guess is, the collective woke transgender issue and maybe the secondary Covid new world order are far worse, both in terms of deaths and, maybe more importantly, cultural downfall. If things get back to normal in 5 years, then Covid itself would have been a mess, for sure. But, the key difference is how Covid was going to kill a large number of people no matter what (I mean, other than literally shutting down borders or stopping it in the first place from getting out of China). But, even a single death under wokeism or governmental overreach in the aftermath of Covid is man-made and was stoppable. Just the shift to an A.I.-driven culture circa 2020 might prove to be the most deadly event in human history if we come back in 20 or 50 years. Who knows. It's worth taking a longer view if we're talking about such issues. The governments and busy-bodies gained so many powers post-Covid that it's unthinkable. Powers that were temporary at the time -- and many thought unwise even then -- but now they hold them forever.

[@thelamington8195]

What a fantastic conversation! Thank you for sharing it with us. Respect from Australia 🇦🇺

[@oliveirabrown2503]

Kissen 10x better. You never hear him. Look him up on triggerometry

[@jonathanbonde8808]

As always, stunning material, thoughtfully put together. Really gives us something to think about. I wish Konstantin had had more opportunities to speak. Thanks Dr. Peterson!

[@joncampbell5021]

Bill C-1984

[@talia8581]

Exactly 💥

[@TheAnadromist]

Back in the 80s we joked about 'health and safety fascism'. It turns out it wasn't a joke.

[@devilsoffspring5519]

Yeah, but anybody with half a brain can figure out that occupational health and safety are things that actually matter :)

[@TheAnadromist]

@@devilsoffspring5519 When we joked about 'health and safety fascism' we were referring to the new trends like safety helmets and more importantly giving kids in school 'medications' to get them under control. Now we suffer from pathological empathy.

[@Anonymous_Whisper]

Tell us you satire jokes please I like to revive them lol

[@TheAnadromist]

@@Anonymous_Whisper It was less a set of jokes and more an attitude. Simply by using the phrase health and safety fascism we were already being completely satirical. We didn't actually mean it then. That is, we looked at these things more like stupid 2nd grade teachers making rules than actual authoritarianism. But today....

[@Anonymous_Whisper]

@@TheAnadromist lol I feel it's the same right now with the robot dogs. We joke about it now but

[@cowcocky]

Australia now has an eSafety commissioner who will decide what is acceptable speech on the internet. Politicians want her also to decide wha misinformation and disinformation then to ban it. How does a democracy survive without free speech?

[@JagadguruSvamiVegananda]

freedom of speech: the ability to speak one’s mind without fear of RETRIBUTION. Normally, freedom of speech is dependent on the prevailing governmental rules, at least at the public level. In private, freedom to speak one’s mind, is entirely contingent on the rules of the particular house or institution in question. Freedom of speech does not negate the CONSEQUENCES of one’s speech. In order to give one example, if a child berates his father, obviously, he ought to be punished for that sinful deed. In order to propose another example, a genuine king will permit his subjects to criticize his actions in a constructive manner, as long as they refrain from deliberate insults, which is a criminal offence (see Chapter 12 of "A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity"). A large proportion of humanity seems to agree that one should refrain from speaking words that incite violent acts, and that one ought not yell the word “Fire!!” in a crowded room or auditorium, purely as a practical joke. Those who believe that free speech should be totally unconditional, will not be able to sustain that opinion if his or her children spout insubordinate speech, as in the first example. So, to put it very succinctly, just as it is possible to execute immoral acts (that is to say, bodily acts such as theft, fornication, public obscenities, and murder), it is possible for a human to make verbal enunciations that are objectively immoral, far more than just those actions normally recognized by most jurisdictions, such as libel and slander. Any speech that is contrary to the principles of dharma, is unethical, and must be punished by a superior - again, few parents would excuse a child of theirs who belittled, insulted or even instruct them! Read Chapter 12 to learn the most authoritative interpretation of law/morality/ethics [“dharma”, in Sanskrit]).

[@mumbai3899]

Dont

[@ctheo13]

Our country is also in big trouble. The WEF seems to actually calling the shots! Our e safety Comrad is a WEF puppet

[@DJC3PO]

It doesn't.

[@Lollipop_Lexi]

You have not understood any of the points made here.

[@4thfugee]

@1:42:47 "If everyone did what they were called upon to do locally" and then tying that into the book of Exodus was an excellent point.

[@intuitivmedia]

Realise, government never create a law to not use it later, even if they tell you otherwise.

[@Westernkoala]

I don't think that's being hidden.

[@heretodaygonetomaui3567]

'government never creates a law to not ABUSE it soon'

[@charlesbruneski9670]

​@thyme2gogh But the conversation often goes like this: Us: this can be misused to target good people doing nothing wrong. Them: no, no one's going to use it That way. Us: let's rewrite it then so that can't happen. Them: no, what are you, evil? Do you hate children so much you Want to see them harmed?

[@johnsmithers8913]

The government has created so many complex and convoluted laws that every man constantly breaks some sort of law. The government can then use selective enforcement to target its enemies while allowing its friends to slip through. This allows the government to appear to have some legitimacy while having the power of a totalitarian regime.

[@nathanoosterhuis6232]

Like the pandemic preparedness ruse

[@damvouk6780]

Your Podcast is priceless. Thank you for keeping it Up ❤

[@discojohn8753]

I detest stuff like Bill C-63, we are adults and can have any conversation we see fit, anywhere we feel like having it, this will just be a tool used to arrest political adversaries.

[@mumbai3899]

Exactly

[@dionbram]

Yep, the power to define is the power to abuse. It is a license for bad faith mind reading by the justice system to abuse their ideological enemies.

[@CJB333]

He didn't have a lot of time in this interview, but something about Konstantin makes me very interested to see where his path leads as time goes.

[@andersstout5397]

I loved your tour last night Dr Peterson it was such an honor to meet you and shake your hand thank you

[@inspiredgardeningwithjanim8110]

Konstantin. Nailed it in his first talking point. We have failed to shift the conversation to where it needs to be.! (I would go so far to say that those whom pull the strings are 5 chess moves ahead still (and that’s a generous estimation). Do we still ruin the war? why yes / how can we lose with God in our side. Buy what a glorious fight to be in? Dr. JP I think this is in great part due to your powerful incantation “you’ll be in The ride of your life.” And isn’t it just so? Looking forward to listening to this interview while I garden. Thank you all 3. ❤🙏

[@tulpapainting1718]

Very good. I wish Bruce engaged with Konstantin more. Perhaps just checking in with eye contact because there were a ton of cues from Konstantin that he missed out on, and it felt like there were some missed interactions.

[@voyd1507]

That was also my observation.

[@MrRozburn]

Konstantin is MI6, his father was a Yeltsin era oligarch

[@mrsslim9029]

I love that kk sat quietly and listened to these great minds. Don't really know why he was there but appreciate his humility after he got his his hit at Putin. Lol

[@Wintermute909]

​@@MrRozburnglad you discovered another thing to add to the childish "everyone I don't like is a nayze/ Russian/ bot/ white supremacist/ grifter"

[@BMC__]

🤣@@MrRozburn

[@antonyliberopoulos933]

Thank you Jordan for yet another exceptional discussion. Thank you Bruce for making us understand this imperative: " Most people do not actually agree with free speech ".

[@richhansen8874]

These conversations are so well done and intelligently informative. Thanks so much to Jordan and the participants!

[@dianawigod3223]

We all would. I thank God for you. You're a light in this world, Mr. Peterson.

[@magentapilot4576]

Glad you're covering this. This is terrifying. Love Bruce Pardy by the way. ❤

[@captainpoil]

Dr. Pardy was fascinating to listen to.

[@W1LLi4m_]

Bruce Pardy is one of the great intellectuals of our time.

[@sunkanswer8221]

Today is the first time I heard of him, I'm glad I did.

[@TheInfamousHoreldo]

The quote wasn't actually Voltaire, if anyone is interested. It was Evelyn Beatrice Hall, on the beliefs of Voltaire in her book Friends of Voltaire. (She also wrote a biography or him) "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

[@joncampbell5021]

Pretty soon, some of these KZbin comments are going to become illegal.

[@lesliemacmillan9932]

Yes,...and retroactively. What is going to change is that the internet companies have to make available to the government a year's worth of everything you said. So they can go back and find something you said a year ago if it might have been illegal then.

[@ohwellwhateverr]

None of mine stay up. Seriously. I see the comment, I refresh the page or the comment thread and it’s gone. I know so many other people are having the same experience.

[@davidlynch9049]

Umm, they already are.

[@grildcheez1504]

I've had them deleted many times.

[@yvanmcgraw1676]

Sooner than later unfortunately..

[@stevenlightfoot6479]

I could listen to Bruce Pardy all day.

[@dreamingwolf8382]

If it was honestly about protecting children then you would simply make internet access only available to adults.

[@chickenmonger123]

Yeah. If they are willing to disregard Freedoms, that would be the way.

[@martinliehs2513]

​@chickenmonger123 Despite his libertarian stance, Dr Pardy mentioned that his arguments for personal sovereignty and autonomy can realistically only apply to adults.

[@dionbram]

@@chickenmonger123 Children aren't allowed in bars, strip clubs, casinos, etc., is that disregarding freedom? 🤔

[@ajs41]

Smartphones and social media should be banned for young children. I say that as a libertarian.

[@kevintaylor5017]

This much more difficult and potentially problematic than you may realize. Here's an initial couple questions for you to think about. How do determine the users actual age? Next who determines what is and isn't age appropriate? We have enough controversy over just trying to label books with an reading age.

[@Dazza_Doo]

Best Jordan Peterson interview imhop. The fusion of Star trek (TNG) IDIC Positive Libertarian Utopian futurism. As Sargon said in this Starship Trooper's video, Libertarian future is based on Star Trek, Personal Responsibility ( Jordan Peterson) and freedom to choose your own path (as is it in Starship Troopers). We need to start taking care of ourselves (as we once did). We forgot to dream (remember when we have Popular magazine series, Vehicles build in the 50's - 60's had style, a vision). Community started at your own street and worked though to the local government. As it was said, Charities, homeless, were tackled though local support, Neighbourhood Watch. This was achieved though personal responsibility and the desire to be your best, or at least not a burden to your fellow man. One can only hope. I digress

[@bradleymcgivney5305]

Can the government be reported for hate?

[@uk2k007]

The effectiveness of the outcome depends on the fervour of the one in receipt of it.

[@bradleymcgivney5305]

@@uk2k007 sounds like class action is required rather than individual voices.

[@mattmyers2624]

That would be hateful - and because you smelt it, you dealt it - and go to prison for life. How dare you!

[@uk2k007]

​@@bradleymcgivney5305This much is true. There is likely a checkmate scenario however. Refusing or accepting to fight in a 3rd world war in return for social order?

[@bradleymcgivney5305]

This KZbin video is the logical approach, but the alternative is to just convince everyone that the government is more hateful than the individual

[@joeythomas2866]

Kudos Bruce Pardy his explanation is very explicit and outspoken with no bias straight to the points

[@SuperBellalucy]

A thoroughly enjoyable & thought provoking conversation - thank you all 🍁

[@mariahaarsma9700]

I was waiting for Konstantin to speak???Finally - thanks for posting

[@funkla65]

This law will be used to Shield those who coach children into asking for trans surgery and MAID. How is that for protecting children??

[@c172215s]

THe EU is already pushing back. puberty blockers are now banned.

[@falldog9]

Wonderful discussion. Thanks for giving the public such clarity about what the ruling classes are nefariously up to.

[@heretodaygonetomaui3567]

Thank-you for another informative discussion.

[@Rick01650]

What a relief and a blessing to have these men use their platforms to actually have an honest, open and thoughtful conversation about one of the most important topics of our time right now. And glad to hear more classic libertarian views on freedom and rights, that's something we're not talking about enough!

[@seasonstudios]

This is how dictatorships and tyranny are developed.

[@RR-et6zp]

well yeah, he is fidel castro's son

[@notaclue822]

This guest is brilliant and articulate. Good program.

[@jaytremblay123]

I got single out by CPS in Quebec because it was not conceivable that I, has a man, was taking care of the kids alone while the mother was always abandoning them. So yes our institution are ideologically captured

[@mardyroux8136]

Quebec has been a criminal state for decades.

[@IggyInBurnaby]

It's very encouraging to see that some schools still have teachers that aren't completely captured by left vs. right ideology.

[@kauffrau6764]

We here in the USA have to pay attention too as it could happen here.

[@BreakfastCake77]

It is happening, Bidens changes to title 9 make misgendering sexual harassment.

[@stvbrsn]

What? No. It can’t happen here. I mean, I’ve *heard* it can’t happen here. This is the land of the free, home of the brave. Of course it can’t happen here. In the time it took me to type these sarcastic remarks… it happened here.

[@jennmcdavitt3782]

It already is

[@midmomom2490]

It’s happening seriously 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@alanaadams7440]

It already has

[@minnowes]

Wow, thank you for having Bruce Pardy on! He is an unsung hero of Canadians.

[@ConservativeSatanist666]

1:31:20 "Enforced to be virtuous is obedience" Well said!

[@MsLinda165]

What to do with the perniciousness of our gov't. I feel trapped inside Canada. I'm low income retired, and also feel the desire to speak up, but my voice carries no weight. I've emailed our politicians, both federal and local and I get the standard 'form' email in return plus a packet of seeds, which is insulting. So my emails are ineffectual, when I speak to them during an election, when they come door to door, they have no time, and say 'write a letter'...so I stay in a country that I feel has betrayed my values, which are, to pay for ones' taxes, and expect law and order in return. I'm paying my taxes, and criminals run free, and I"m made to feel guilty for being 'privileged'.

[@lorenagutierrez8174]

You matter to me. Your wisdom that you’ve gained in your life time matters. Our elders are so needed and valuable in our communities. Spread your knowledge to the younger generations ?

[@vickikyvrikosaios7300]

When our voices unite in prayer to God about the injustices He is the ones that puts the wheels in motion for change. Never lose hope.

[@eugenefdscodes]

Whenever I see Pardy on Peterson, I click.

[@Fastlane05]

Orwell's 1984, Huxley's Brave New World or Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451? YES, YES & YES!

[@elichabassol5238]

This is why I draw a distinction between what's hurtful and what's harmful. Both are negative effects, but hurtful things are those which you will recover from, where harmful things are those that affect you permanently. The former must be tolerated in a free society, but the latter should be avoided and outlawed where possible.

[@Jukilady]

Sticks and stones break my bones, but names will never hurt me.😊

[@pisarz_milosci9153]

This was the best handled and most interesting debate I have ever seen in my life.

[@jccusell]

Can't have a country like Scotland out-woke you.

[@devilsoffspring5519]

When Scotland becomes woke, you KNOW the world is fucked beyond repair.

[@thiagodalfovo6305]

This episode should become a book!!!

[@TheBriarWolf]

Goodluck Canada, wish we could help, but we’ve got our own war to fight in America.

[@devilsoffspring5519]

Yeah, but at least you guys make money at war. Canada's gonna go poor doing it. Can't you guys down there figure out how to build something cheaper than the F-35?!

[@blakebrown848]

Ya it's in Isreal. money laundering rebranded.

[@marasegal1849]

​@@devilsoffspring5519Profiting off of war isn't anything to be proud of. Nor is money laundering under the guise of helping another country.

[@devilsoffspring5519]

@@marasegal1849 Who said anything about pride? I was barely even talking about war anyway, I was mostly talking about money. Money is money, even dirty money don't stink after it's properly cleaned :).

[@marasegal1849]

@@devilsoffspring5519 Money is money? Making money without accountability and integrity is just a form of legalized crime.

[@kathycarpenito]

The more ambiguity, the more they can make up rules as they go to fit any circumstance.😊

[@chriswhite2151]

Depending on which side is in power.

[@kathycarpenito]

@@chriswhite2151 The person in power at the moment. If the all obeyed laws there would be no problems!

[@mehanyr]

I agreed with both sentences Konstantin said 😂 He’s actually great, it’s a shame we didn’t hear more from him. From the beginning the specifics of the topics leant themselves to being Dr Peterson and Bruce’s specialties.

[@TheEmmaLucille]

This is terrifying.

[@Marionna811]

Freedom comes with responsibility and humility.... you can't have one without the other...

[@markrichards7377]

I would hope that the Conservatives are listening to this. The LPC is lost completely.

[@mumbai3899]

Is sold out

[@Dementia.Pugilistica]

It's not the conservatives you need to be listening to this. They're already on board. It's the few remaining supporters of Trudeau. That said, I don't know anyone who supports him anymore. He will lose in a landslide to Pollierve. The NDP will come in second place.

[@ThaViruz666]

A great conversation. Thank you to all three of you.

[@erikavarga7060]

Excellent discussion. Tyranny keeps manifesting at a very fast speed.

[@henry5128]

Government should only do three things. Provide a military to provide protection. Police force for protection, and lastly a fair judiciary. Canada federal government provides ZERO OF THE THESE THINGS

[@smilevrsac]

It only makes sure you provide taxes for its existence and the rest is absolutely not important.

[@markketron3308]

Excellent as usual.

[@jsherman1503]

Thank you Jordan P. for all your continuing efforts. I truly appreciate your work. I consider. I reason. I vote.

[@straightfrommissouri]

ur ballot doesn't matter.. its all controlled

[@BeholderThe1st]

I like that analogy. It is fitting. Gender Expression is Fashion. They've now made it illegal to criticize people's fashion choices.

[@razorblade136]

Sooooo glad I’m an elderly Christian!!!!

[@sanniepstein4835]

Canadians have never cared much for civil liberties, but this is appalling, even by their standards.

[@devilsoffspring5519]

Canadians have never cared about anything except houses, schools and political correctness. I'm a born and bred Canadian and have lived here for 47 years, I know what I'm talking about when I tell you Canadians are losers and this country is pathetic.

[@wd4402]

As I clicked on this video to watch it a white box appeared with a list of offense options that I could choose from to report it to the TubeYou platform. Jordan you are loved and deeply appreciated.

[@masondavirro808]

Thank you Dr. Peterson ❤

[@magorzatakitka4266]

❤

[@andre-os9wk]

Such an insightful discussion of the most consequential issues !

[@DracoOoOoOo]

@16:30 it sounds like your talking about Managed Democracy. Edit: I'm glad I watched this with a nice cup of Liber Tea.

[@666atyler666]

There is no such thing as hate speech. Brilliant conversation. Why can't we elect this caliber of people into office?

[@Dreadnought16]

Canada has become such a disappointing nation, along with a majority of Canadians….I served in the military when I was younger….I wouldn’t dare risk my life for this country or the people in it now….

[@devilsoffspring5519]

You're telling me man, thank you for your service, but if Canada had mandatory military service I bet a few Canadians would be tempted to go join the terrorists instead! 47 y.o. and my entire life as a born and bred Canadian has been absolute hell. I grew up being gangstalked and tortured by corrupt police.

[@tubewayarmy2]

There are things worth fighting for, but, the people they are asking us to fight are not the people causing the real problem.

[@midmomom2490]

Such a sad state of affairs

[@jimpickard3850]

My first experience of Bruce Pardy ... he's seriously impressive. Great discussion guys.

[@gazzapax56]

A similar view was expressed at the recent NatCon conference in Brussels, that national governments within the EU used to create law, and then require their respective civil services to implement it. However, the EU switched this around, where they became a pan-European civil service that now creates EU law, then require national governments to implement those laws locally. It’s a key reason why the Brits left the EU, and that is an emerging sentiment across Europe for other nations to consider their own versions of Brexit.