Jordan Peterson debate on the gender pay gap, campus protests and postmodernism

[@David_Me825]

Jordan: - Cats like to be in warm places... Cathy: - So you're saying cats are responsible for global warming?

[@snek9353]

Fucking hilarious, you win the internet.

[@f1nalfrontier]

Love it, love it , love it...I think my enthusiasm has contributed to my carbon footprint......oh dear!

[@leotovar1185]

xD!!!!!!

[@theburge3577]

Funny!!!!!

[@maciejstalmach]

LOL

[@benjoshua3049]

*whole interview:* Cathy: So you're saying that..... Jordan: I literally never said that......

[@orcrist484]

Good summary.

[@tonybright7693]

Jordan is too smart for her

[@seanm7539]

Yes pretty much

[@gondaljarrat8864]

kzbin.info/door/lLNqr9kTEehlf7jSiSLJVg

[@samwisegamgee2488]

sounds like my wife when we get in an argument hahaha

[@benedekistvan2655]

Jordan:The dog is a man's best friend. Cathy: *So you're saying dogs hate women?*

[@BB-tx7tq]

Good one. This is exactly something Newman would say.

[@ramibrown]

😂

[@shailpatel3841]

Noice

[@norulesprateek]

I like your comment but I'm not gonna hit like because of the number of likes you have.

[@timeapolonyi75]

magyar?

[@matenagy0117]

I am very glad that the channel is brave enough to let the comment section remain open. Even though they probably aren’t fond of the comments, it’s the right thing to do.

[@UIM_Loki]

Underrated comment

[@Kjettaaa]

The constant comments on her lunacy probably keep generating views, so its basically an income stream for them now 😂

[@thedrizzle313]

I’m surprised his jaw didn’t break from the amount of words she was trying to put in his mouth

[@cubbwatch]

Good one dude. But no for real, it's honeslty so pathetic, it made me so mad

[@TonyDupre]

I'm not super into Jordan Peterson, I mainly watched this video out of curiosity. You could fill a book with the words she put into his mouth. God awful "journalism".

[@harryrob8221]

Unbelievable!

[@tracigreen4786]

thedrizzle313 exactly. I found myself on many occasions saying” that is not it all what he said, lady”

[@tracigreen4786]

thedrizzle313 Exactly! I found myself on many occasions saying” that is not at all what he said”, lady.

[@TheHoruru]

"So you are saying this thing that you have never said" ~Interviewer

[@SammyJ..]

Perfect summary of this whole half hour

[@Obi_Bong_Kenobi]

fucking funny haha

[@longshotkdb]

over and over again ... shes not very bright, and shes bitter, _and_ shes 'on a mission' the dizzy blonde. >_

[@xomox5316]

That sums it up, what a horrible interviewer talk about someone that got their job because of gender not merit.

[@juliuserving2663]

Exactly what i was thinking. Peterson is way too smart for this lady though

[@TenkosSSJ]

- "so you're saying that..." - " no I'm not..." And that goes on 100 more times

[@hashslingingslasher8001]

I feel bad for Jordan here. The host is clearly looking for a dramatic angle to push on, and he's not giving her one. "Are you saying that..." "No I'm saying.." Over and over and over.

[@bcafoe]

Tenkos Came here to say just that.

[@kenlives]

Peterson: facts facts facts Interviewer: so, you're a sexist bigot racist then? Next question. XD

[@cmichelle9986]

Lol perfect summary of the interview. This is one of those women who think being belligerent and bitchy is strong and intelligent. WRONG

[@jamesgrey785]

Someone should remind Cathy this tactic is also known as lying

[@TreBrickley]

“In order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.” - Jordan B. Peterson

[@willsnider7442]

Jordan: Women birth 100% of babies Cathy: so you're saying all women have to have kids

[@Unklebillybob]

Here is yet, another example of 'Cathy' not understanding or letting Mr Peterson finishing his thought/statement! Cathy's behavior looks like, sounds like and smells like a lot of liberal Gobbledygook! Again, these people need to Close Their Mouths and open their ears.

[@TheUrantia001]

no words, she is a rat...

[@xfiles5913]

Does this woman still have a job ?

[@azaithou5036]

@@xfiles5913 she better find something she is good at.

[@guts-n-cheese8377]

Azai Thou bold of you to assume that she is good at things in general

[@raymondhmuifoo11]

She's really trying to be passive-aggressive towards a clinical psychologist.

[@dostthouevenlogicbrethren1739]

Shows the utter lack of self-awareness of these "woke" journalists.

[@raymondhmuifoo11]

@@dostthouevenlogicbrethren1739 Pretty crazy, and nice profile picture.

[@dantehajime709]

Big mistake!

[@coiledsteel8344]

Michael G. Scott - She's a Feminist.

[@Earnestlie]

@@dostthouevenlogicbrethren1739 Unfortunately there's nothing passive about her aggressive demeanor. It's evident that she's engaged in a "Gotcha" contest, in which Peterson won't stoop to engage.

[@jherydpatterson3855]

Jordan-“The sky is blue” Cathy-“so you’re saying sunsets don’t exist?”

[@patrickdonoghue7522]

It's hard to watch, but damn I keep coming back to this shitshow

[@BigBri550]

Actually, that is a valid argument. The sky is not always blue, the wind doesn't always blow, and the grass doesn't always grow. But I see what you mean: this interviewer was definitely looking for a confrontation.

[@LibertarianGearhead]

@@BigBri550 but he didn't specify the "always". He might've meant "now", which could be more or less likely depending on the context - if you're discussing the weather for example.

[@BigBri550]

@@LibertarianGearhead Well, the OP is a characterization anyway, but here’s how it works: “The sky is blue” is an absolute statement even lacking the word “always.” So if Cathy were to retort, “So you’re saying sunsets don’t exist,” she’s not exactly wrong. If an absolute statement can be interpreted as exclusionary, it is invalid unless it happens to be true under all circumstances. To conclude otherwise is assumptive.

[@alicenobre1916]

😂 yeah, just like that

[@alekdaniels]

I return here every time I'm anticipating a difficult conversation. This is a masterclass of clear communication and clear thinking.

[@TheLunarLegend]

I like cats. 'So you're saying we should kill dogs?'

[@chaseman12]

haha great.

[@ultrapurple111]

Yes, that sums up the theme of the 'interview' perfectly.

[@tsubaka18]

Lol😂😂😂

[@killswitchfate]

Fucking thank you

[@IKIGAIofficial]

so youre saying that dogs and cats get more privilege than other animalss?

[@EmbraceMaking]

One of her traits certainly isn't being a good listener.

[@ctyragdoll]

She listened quite well. Her catastrophic failure was attempting to twist his words into straw man arguments that were immediately shot down. That's the difference between an interviewer and a debater, the debater will always win because they know a straw man argument when they hear it. When someone says "So you're saying...", be prepared for a argumentative fallacy.

[@EmbraceMaking]

I suppose, if that's what you call listening. However, I feel that if she was actually listening, she wouldn't draw ridiculous conclusions and have to say, "so what you're saying is..." Or maybe she was just trying to find a reason to be triggered. Either way, what he actually says is typically very clear.

[@CosmicBrain21]

So are you saying women aren't good listeners? And that they should be happy just being low paid lobsters?

[@ctyragdoll]

She had pre-set notions, with little to back them up. By their own professions, he listens more and she talks more. She listened for words that she thought she could use to formulate arguments against him. I agree that she she attempted to "talk over" him, and it seemed as if she wasn't listening. And yes, she was trying to "trigger" him, hence her admission of "Yes, you got me". She was basically unprepared for him, both argumentatively and factually. There's a difference between "listening" and "understanding". She didn't listen to understand, she listened for argumentative "potholes" in his words, and then attempted to tell him what he actually meant, or create arguments that had nothing to do with what he said. She's just poor debater with preconceived ideas that had no chance. She did try, I'll grant her that much.

[@dabengal]

She had to be listening very well in order to quickly attempt to twist his words and just as quickly realize that his rebuttals to her queries were sufficient enough to stop the line of questioning. But just as ctyragdoll pointed out, this was not a discussion.

[@leonardocook4444]

Jordan: I’m hungry Cathy: so you’re saying I should go make you a sandwich? Edit: hail lobster 🦞

[@randyweaver6543]

Yes, and it’s Sammich.

[@whaleh8er991]

Damn right I am!

[@ArchimedesPie]

Correct spelling would be: sammich

[@billyandriam]

sudo make me a sandwich

[@maogu1999]

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

[@AnInterstellarOdyssey]

No matter what your views are on ANYTHING, this is the perfect example of a person not listening and simply pushing their own thoughts

[@gerrysong6908]

Jordan: "There are starving people everywhere." Cathy: "So you're saying that women belong in the kitchen."

[@Fighting-Spirit7]

😂😂😂😂

[@zaimnaqvi8893]

Lol

[@al-rc5ry]

Hilarious 😂🤣

[@joereynard3415]

This wins😂

[@mickjonkman5398]

Precisely this😂😂

[@the-daydreamer]

She’s trying so hard to misinterpret his words that it become annoying.

[@GinoNL]

It’s quite a well known debate technique. She just miserably fails at doing it correctly.

[@bj1783]

Let me offend the “laydees” for ya. But that’s what women do 🥴

[@rachelb1879]

@@bj1783 you’re no Jordan Peterson. 😄

[@davidpringuer3553]

Straw men

[@bj1783]

@Patrick J Mims nice 👍

[@Master.Ojinaga]

whenever you think your life is hard, remember Cathy Newman has to live with this her entire life..

[@gurgy3]

Yeah, but she is too thick to realize that’s a bad thing.

[@aleatoric909]

This was so unfair lol

[@Master.Ojinaga]

@Wo Jak I didn't say we don't learn from our mistakes I just made an observation that there are mistakes that never go away regardless of whether you learn or not

[@ephapax1]

Lameck Wanyama quality comment

[@killzy707]

Lameck Wanyama- Jordan talked about this indirectly. He said that the first clip they showed on TV made her look better, so they happily released the full interview on KZbin thinking it was a win for her. It backfired to say the least.

[@DatsomorAtsu]

Who's here in 2024 to watch this masterpiece✨

[@davidhasin6258]

🙋

[@TriciaMontoya14]

😅 me

[@superrockers3283]

I'm 🎉

[@LemmingOHW]

29.12.24 😄

[@dezaknar0]

Just discovered Peterson today, I have been missing a lot mannn

[@cubeologist42]

I know it wasn't her point, but this interview made me instantly pre-order his book.

[@Rx7man]

I just ordered it too!

[@juve7105]

Cubeologist same!!

[@TSotP]

I got it on Audible. If you enjoy listening to Dr Peterson talk, it's like a 15hour podcast lol

[@Rooster---ooo]

Added to the wishlist. It was great to watch him school Channel 4 news.

[@Rooster---ooo]

Just waiting for my next credit to come in and I'm all over this.

[@68greg19]

she is basically losing an argument with herself

[@Glacialvoid]

It's called playing the devils advocate! A very useful tool :)

[@lightsoutlena]

@@Glacialvoid devils advocate is when you argue a fifferent or opposing argument to the one that is being debated. It is not when you reconstruct the oppositions words and pervert their meaning. The worst part is that she knows she is misinterpreting him, and it is clear in her tone of voice that she is acting/pretending. She is not being honest, and her whole being knows this ....but she is doing her best to conceal it. She is lying, and thats what makes this interview so embarrassing.

[@Glacialvoid]

@@lightsoutlena To be truthful, to be an effective devils advocate, you can "pervert" the words in any way you want as long as the meaning is retained. Especially if the perversion leads to the questions being as emotional as possible. Im not at all saying this to defend her, in fact her perversion does go too far, any journalist shouldnt interpret anything beyond trying to understand the essence of something. Journalists SHOULDNT play the devils advocate. I am just saying, that this does give us something positive. Jp is really good at shutting things like that down, and they're both helping us to do that ourselves.

[@lightsoutlena]

@@Glacialvoid i can appreciate that.

[@AgentJ2007]

lena trackburn yup, there’s a term for that. The strawman argument.

[@dimagreen2144]

What an embarrassment she is to intellectual conversation. His patience is incredible.

[@potatitis6441]

Yeah, if it's one thing in this other than Cathy's stupidity that I can appreciate then it is definitely JP's super human patience.

[@GiSoraya]

I think he is about to cry out of sheer frustration

[@MoiLiberty]

The intellectual needs to be placed in it’s proper place. It used to be portrayed as a midget with a big ear. Intellectuals like comic book man are not necessarily productive or wise.

[@Papiringou]

I feel sorry for that woman. she no near match for this guy knowledge.

[@TheLovelymix]

He is a psychologist.. he is used to deal with worst cases than this

[@jonathanhoman1077]

Every time she's about to lose ground she immediately pivots. I know this is 6 yrs old but it still holds up to the same things we are talking about today. Hats off to Jordan for rolling with the punches and providing well thought out arguments in the face of this hellfire.

[@reality9]

Jordan Peterson: Yes Kathey Newman: So what your'e saying is no.

[@schlimmbotg472]

And that's sexist, isn't it?

[@fodraco4414]

😂😭

[@ACTHdan]

@@schlimmbotg472 Patriarchal tyranny, in fact 😂

[@libahopeson1296]

🤣🤣🤣

[@vrishankmistry6895]

@@schlimmbotg472 obviously, everything a man does is sexist. They slowly want to criminalize having xy chromosome

[@aznwrestler3]

“I’m very very careful with my words” - Jordan Peterson “Well I’m not” - Cathy Newman

[@meghanachauhan9380]

You didn't have to say that, sweetheart. It was just so obvious - me

[@Isaias-wq7wu]

that's why I love the comment section 😂

[@wmurray689]

That was his warning to her...but she didn't realise and got had later on. BOOM!

[@thebanished87]

Sums it up

[@solaveritas4493]

This comment section keeps giving and giving, even after two years. So satisfying, lol.

[@TheTikky66]

This frustrated woman completely humiliated herself.

[@eckhartmaister4404]

Thanks, i didnt notice

[@PetterNe]

“Int3rn4l1z3d M1s0giny!!!!” /sarcasm

[@JOBXR]

It was a bit sad tbh but hopefully she learned a bit more about how to conduct herself better

[@freeq4083]

JP is a highly intelligent and qualified interlocutor. Her problem is explained quite simply, she not only does not really listen, but tries to insert her pre-prepared opinion into every gap in the dialogue without again understanding that he has long explained it to her. I love how he castrates her attempts to turn the words in his mouth with a calm smile. Such a conversation should not be missing in any basic psychology course.

[@BigBri550]

And for nothing! His comment that stopped her cold was probably the stupidest thing he said for the whole interview: "You need to risk being offensive in the search for truth." Refusing to be verbally respectful for individuals and then justifying one's lack of empathy as a "search for truth" is just rank bullshit.

[@nuggetonfire3845]

This interview is the gift that keeps on giving. I come back to it few times a year.

[@larrygotter5609]

Jordan: *"Good afternoon Cathy."* Cathy: So you're saying a late morning doesn't exist and therefore is less of?

[@jessblaire3464]

🤣

[@darknight1676]

This is so gooooood

[@kennethijama1934]

😂😃

[@jamiecummings6109]

This is it.

[@lizzieyang1355]

YES.

[@tomwebb8801]

I watch this quite often, just to remind myself of how not to be an idiot.

[@kamakirinoko]

You know, I don't particularly gush and fall over myself repeating "Oh, Jordan, Jordan, you're SO smart" but you know, compared to most people I've seen/met/married/argued with/listened to, this guy has a fucking neuron or two actually fucking firing somewhere deep in the recesses of his anterior cingulate medullary fomentum-you know, actually *demonstrating* the oft-trumpeted claim that human beings at some point diverged from the apes, UNLIKE around ninety-nine point nine percent of the tetrapod-like organisms that come under the designation "humanity".

[@candycolriv]

😅

[@grillGrilla]

@@kamakirinoko it would amuse me to have a clip of you voicing this comment in person included at the end of this video footage.

[@Venuscat007]

@@kamakirinoko Your comment regenerated my dead brain cells :))))

[@kamakirinoko]

@@grillGrilla Tee hee; I would be hilariously happy to oblige. Each and every single day I am struck with the realization that the vast, VAST majority of human beings have only the vaguest notions of the existence of modes of thought about science, history, the sum of human knowledge up to this point or really, ANYTHING AT ALL beyond their Facebook pages and the latest engrossing conspiracy theory. That's when they're rationalizing why they shouldn't vaccinate their kids, if indeed you can dignify the term as "rationalizing."

[@lastfirst5863]

Tbh, kudos to channel 4 for leaving comments enabled and not being as butthurt as they could be.

[@operativexeight]

seriously. that's pretty commendable

[@WTFTheLeftIsBigger]

The top executive got a letter from her to disable them but he realized the name on the letter was Cathy so he threw it out.

[@mistuhgee]

Well, yes and no. They can't take this down or disable comments because the blowback would be a scandal. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

[@artemlobovsfightingcareeri4922]

Yitzi Schweitzer right

[@970pl]

From what I remember it's because they thought they 'won' the debate.

[@gjatt7410]

The comedic value of this interview is underrated

[@uzairahmed6500]

Jordan: - Chocolate comes from cocoa, which is a tree... Cathy: - So you're saying Chocolate is a salad?

[@uncomfortablyclose8481]

This is the best one of these types of comments I've seen yet.

[@rohitrai4215]

hilarious

[@dancyclist7674]

Nahhh. .... Cathy response would be like " so what's there for women then ....?"

[@vincent_hall]

Hey! I like that one. I'll take that. Chocolate is a salad. It's not scientific, but it's a tasty argument.

[@CallMeetheJester]

Salad comes from trees?

[@ej8530]

Jordan: 'According to statistical analysis, women prefer...' Cathy: 'That's a vast generalisation'

[@CH-kr2df]

Says the woman who kept trying to sum up everything he said in a nice neat generalization.

[@jadenhaller155]

it's funny that she was like "ThAt WaS a VasT gENreALizatioN" and in the same interview say "your followers harras and bully people"

[@crybabyfans3162]

She needs to stop telling him what he's Saying and actually listen to what he's saying.

[@goncalobaia1574]

@@crybabyfans3162 and you need to realize that journalism isn't about that, that's just an intelligent and respectable thing to do

[@crybabyfans3162]

@@goncalobaia1574 ofc i already know that but she's just making the conversation harder than it has to be

[@tinac9077]

Wow. Just wow. This interview is a total train wreck. Cathy's ranting does NOT represent all women's views. Please, Cathy, stop "helping" us. You are a mess.

[@KevinPetrusNL]

Great comment, gives back hope. P.S. are you related to Dinesh?

[@scottmcdonald6201]

Yeah, it's a shame when someone so repugnant claims to speak on behalf of all women

[@tinac9077]

@@KevinPetrusNL No relation. Wish I was! :)

[@TheMoon-mc9nk]

They never are just like the gq intervew. These as it just happens to be women are representative of a leftist political stance. They both got destroyed. Don't worry nobody believes this is representative of all women's views. Thank you for your comment.

[@myheartwillstopinjoy8142]

I'm a woman, and I was just so annoyed. Respect to Jordan for keeping his cool with such a long and painfully ridiculous interview.

[@PeterOldwood]

Such an intelligent man! He shuttered her every accusation 👍

[@evanmorgan327]

Jordan Peterson: *exists* Cathy: So you’re saying dead people are irrelevant

[@Mathias.Bernal]

Underrated

[@Jeremy-zb3cc]

Goated comment

[@negokimolo3116]

Underrated

[@Caspricocious]

I completely disagree with this statement. Cathy would more likely say something along the lines of "So you’re saying dead Women are irrelevant?"

[@Edenhazard17-n9z]

@@Caspricocious 😂😂😂😂

[@Tricolorrr533]

Peterson: "Well.." Cathy: "So you're saying tap water is inferior?"

[@Gabriel-dt9dv]

😂😂

[@leoleo2336]

lol..😂

[@quinnharris3283]

underrated comment

[@whoiscapybara]

this is the best one of all...an elegant pun is always wellcome.

[@stephanhugo4185]

😂😂😂

[@olaliestokka1316]

Me: i play fotball Her: so you are saying girls cant play sport

[@justpepe253]

Lol

[@huskiehuskerson5300]

But theres one thing tho girls arent video games.

[@basketofpuppys]

Girls can play sports Foxy Boxing WWE Bra and pantie fights

[@avidhemp7388]

jan_teigen_ lol

[@vivekadhikari7312]

@@huskiehuskerson5300 To₹

[@medius-44]

That was hilarious, Peterson was genuinely amused by the interviewer by the end.

[@martinoman436]

Jordan Peterson: *sighs* Cathy: So you´re saying women shouldn´t breathe

[@toxiclow]

I laughed way too hard :D

[@akillermtfa7350]

😂😂

[@riskitz1354]

She jumped to every conclusion she could think of before he could even finish a sentence

[@nbss]

Jordan: *comes dressed in suit Cathy: So you're mocking poor minorities who can't afford suit?

[@whitleypedia]

I'm so grateful that Channel 4 never turned off the comments for this.

[@coiledsteel8344]

Feminism is Cancer.

[@iamyouarei9497]

Feminism is worse than cancer. It's hate, distilled into a childishly aggressive ideology, directed towards 50% of the human population, in an oversimplistic bid for power. This is truly the misguided basis for the ideological ignorance that led to the most horrifying events of the 20th century, and more deaths than cancer caused in the same time frame.

[@willmercury]

She might as well have led with the question, "When did you stop beating your wife?" Or children, or slaves, etc.

[@justinebourke2811]

@@iamyouarei9497 👌👌👌

[@YourFather1555]

"So you're saying..." "So what you're trying to say is..." "You're just saying.." She just isn't listening.

[@lilfresh2684]

Yh I think it’s because Jordan is so smart she has to dumb his words down to understand

[@lljkgktudjlrsmygilug]

Honestly, it seems more like a case of an extreme debater mind that has zero willingness to concede, almost as if she is trying to prove a point like their life depends on it. As a result of this mindset, she attacks ever single word that he is saying and attempts to construe it in a way that portrays him and his argument in the worst way possible. From my experience in sanctioned debates in school as well as adjudication from said debates, both in my school and other, her ability to honestly reason in a way that deduces common themes is absolutely pathetic. She would barely survive people in year 7-8 in terms of ability.

[@sosalpha]

Are you saying a comet will hit this planet at noon??

[@MrMeszaros]

Yeah, but I think she does a great job of criticizing Jordan - and I think he mentions it that she does a great job of not being afraid to offend him in search of the truth. I think the segment starts at about 22:14

[@MrKago1]

@@MrMeszaros the problem is I don't think she was looking for the truth. at least not willing to let it be what it is. she had a conclusion she wanted to reach and she had to try to get him to go along with it. people do this all the time in politics. the give away is nearly always a bunch of questions involving "what you're saying is" and then an intentionally disingenuous statement. politicians do it for votes, news anchors do it for ratings. this is why youtubers like Joe Rogan, Uncommon Knowledge, Russell Brand and the like do so well. they ask questions and follow where they lead, they don't try to steer the answers.

[@jameslowery876]

This aged soooo well! They should have another go around! C’mon Cathy! It’ll put you back on the map😂

[@drbiker5605]

Jordan: *pauses to breathe* Cathy: "So you're ignoring me now."

[@danielgutierrez4998]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

[@ehyeh365]

😂😂😂

[@Natalie-gb7kl]

😄😄😄

[@rushikeshdavhare7555]

Jordan : no Cathy- so you're saying YES?!

[@gerardscarface]

😂😂😂

[@HeliRy]

Many a strawman were slayed upon the battlefield this day.

[@davintedja6705]

HeliRy So youre saying only strawmen are slaughtered on the battlefield and no strawwomen? Isnt that being divisive?

[@SIPEROTH]

+Davin Tedja So you are saying we should be slaying female straw people instead of male? Isn't that misogynist?

[@jillshortmilk3203]

Anon ymous so what you're saying is that we should exterminate ze straws and replace them with wood?

[@HeliRy]

Time is dismantle the Pulpriarchy!

[@oreoninja3035]

So what you're saying is that you support the genocide of the peachful straw people. You bigot!

[@dubsjohnson89]

Kathy just increased pay gap to 12%.

[@PaulMatthewMusic1]

Lol

[@youngmaestro4153]

Brilliant lol

[@cek128]

No doubt lol

[@pilarquiroz3585]

@rumpleforeskin73 good reasoning. Besides, she seems to be blaming him for everything that is wrong and demanding him to justify history facts!!! Making him responsible for crisis everywhere!! How silly!!, as he said!!!.

[@siLence-84]

@rumpleforeskin73 she isn't very bright

[@mk.gurenzero9434]

Old but Gold!

[@theabhishekmittal]

Jordan Peterson: I am a man Cathy: So you're saying you hate women

[@siddharthjain650]

That's what feminism means

[@gjinkalla7121]

abhishek mittal you’re degenerating it. all the assumptions she made came from statements he led. Only he was smart enough to not let them out of his mouth.

[@zombieslayer7759]

😂😂🤣

[@theabhishekmittal]

@@gjinkalla7121 He is no doubt very smart guy and a superb articulator. But for the anchor, pin pointing every other word is not smartness that the anchor was doing

[@LawsofPaul]

@@gjinkalla7121 No, all of the assumptions she made were leaps in logic. Using logical fallacy in a recorded debate is what makes her look unintelligent. It seems like you weren't able to understand anything JP said just like the reporter. He isn't arguing based on opinions, he uses purely factual arguments.

[@annaminer9068]

“Women typically have higher pitched voices than men” ..... “So you’re saying women should just shut up”

[@jamesfowler489]

well.. um...

[@GrubKiller436]

This.. Such an accurate parody.

[@Cass_i]

This is so funny

[@negativeindustrial]

Yes

[@chaoselemental6759]

😆😝

[@AttiMatter]

Jordan: "KZbin is primarily ma- Cathy: "So you're saying women shouldn't be allowed on KZbin?"

[@garethdixon7460]

See kikikzsjc!!7

[@NiemandsKunst]

This man saved my Life. His book really was exacly what I needed in Life. Nothing special but just the feeling, someone cares about me.

[@K9Kelaroo]

That’s powerful. You are cared about and we are glad you’re here!

[@yowast9104]

Peterson: Breathes Interviewer: so you’re saying you hate women!

[@captainyasopp154]

This made me laugh thank you.

[@LoneWolf-fx9lm]

It doesn't matter what you are saying

[@LusidDreaming]

I love that she asks "don't you just stir people into an angry frenzy?" The perfect response would be, "no...that's just you."

[@gokuonice1940]

You ever notice how the individual who is wrong in and argument/debate is always the one who interrupts? Shes following an agenda here, peterson is simply revealing the conversion for what it is, yet she wont let that happen by interrupting with " so what you're saying..." follwed by some abstract mis-interpretation of his words.

[@andrewkonkle5447]

She rephrased what he stated so many times it's a wonder he was on this program at all. She kept seeing the phantoms in her mind and trying to build a narrative that is unsupported by reality.

[@animaniax7843]

Jordan: I'm straight Cathy: So you're saying people shouldn't be gay?

[@marioellersiek6917]

Why are you gay?

[@jaredwindham9717]

Your profile picture made this comment really funny haha

[@Terra-Incognlta]

Well, people shouldn't be but they are

[@eduardogodinez3395]

Lol 😂

[@rot4950]

@@marioellersiek6917 Are you trying to be smart, because we both know that he was making a joke just like all the other comments.

[@evanpearce6961]

Cathy: "But what gives you the right to say that?" Jordan: *stares* *eye twitch* "I'm a clinical psychologist..." LOL

[@bekawang3575]

4:17 you're welcome

[@ngalahansel6066]

The arrogance when she asks him that. And then it gets me thinking why would u invite him to ask him such a silly question if you didn't think he had the answers

[@seana3012]

Beka Wang s

[@amberlance3221]

exactly! judging people on their behavior is their job description - when a person attends a psychologist they are literally paying someone to judge them

[@davidhasin6258]

I googled “death by a thousand cuts” and this interview was the first result

[@JacksTheater]

Jordan: I’m hungry Cathy: So you’re saying women should make you a sandwich?

[@shmodayoda7836]

Jordan: im human Cathy: so ur saying women aren't?

[@iliarumenov3088]

Yes please and while she makes him one she can make another one for me

[@bj1783]

According to bull burr yes 🤣🤣🤣

[@shmodayoda7836]

@@iliarumenov3088 she'll make it wrong trust me

[@jonathantan2469]

Jordan: "I like the Batman Animated Series" Cathy: "So you're saying that women should get back in the kitchen?"

[@Coouge]

“So you’re saying...”

[@NestorLedon]

Coouge 😂👌 notice how she needs to reinvent what he says to hold an argument.

[@LoreleiLee53]

That woman needs lesson in the art of listening. She is infuriating. A producer should have slapped her and said, "Snap out of it!" A la Cher in Moonstruck

[@RealJustLaw]

So you're saying... Repeat a paraphrase that says NOTHING that Jordan Peterson said -- hahaha!

[@hewasfuzzywuzzy3583]

Coouge In a nutshell, yes. That sums up this interview and those behind her speaking through her. She's totally a puppet.

[@jivecjedkin]

She's womansplaining.

[@tazv1291]

“So you’re saying...” “No I’m not saying that...” “Okay but you’re saying...” “Are you listening?”

[@bamalingeshmeti1243]

😂😂

[@justshrimping742]

She only listen to the words that she wanted to hear.

[@briancooper6608]

All she did was try to put words in his mouth.and as in most his interviews he didn't allow that and still managed to teach anyone listening who is somewhat smart a thing or two.

[@wulf6133]

😂😂🤣🤣

[@Rev0UK1]

she cant extrapolate form what he's saying outside of her own preset ideas -.-

[@patrick4384]

For all the criticism of Cathy Newman you gotta at least give credit to her and Channel 4 for airing the entire interview uncut.

[@wiredwiser8675]

Jordan: Cathy: So you are saying women can't be silent?

[@bigpiso9]

I laughed so hard at this comment

[@owentunechi4932]

Funniest comment here

[@Love.Cook_Sanji]

Best one so far

[@tylerhill9510]

😂

[@PhantomGreyfire]

Made my day.

[@rachelp9954]

She wasn't setting up an interview it was a trap. Attempting to put Peterson in a bad light then backfired. Frankly, it's embarrassing.

[@4Mikes4Mindset4]

Yay my name's Frank. Middle name...And. last name Beans. Frank A. Beans

[@solidsnake9898]

JP: “I mean, I’m quite a fan of dogs mysel-“ Cathy: “S-So you want to kill cats??”

[@ScottTheBot07]

Hahahahhahahaa

[@solidsnake9898]

@@ScottTheBot07 :P

[@servesyourightformuscat1219]

Dya lyk dags?

[@The-Big-Boss]

Agreed son

[@crazeeaz]

@@servesyourightformuscat1219 it's fer mee mah!

[@wisemaiza5578]

Jordan owned schooled and pinned her on her own show,his confidence was too much for the host. He knew what he was doing. Thanks sir.

[@hellobro2465]

Jordan- "Men should be smart." Cathy- *"So you are saying, men should outsmart women"*

[@hellobro2465]

@I Just , thanks my dear

[@theovolz3073]

She’s determined to back him into a corner and he just isn’t biting.

[@J.Jonah.Jameson.]

She keeps trying to get him to react and shout over her too, which would make her a victim

[@recker2006]

That's becasue he has intelligence.

[@J.Jonah.Jameson.]

@@recker2006 Big elephants cannot always understand small elephants.

[@abuthetruthfull]

Coz he doesn't belong there

[@mrpower5898]

"Haaa. Gotcha" Utterly bodied

[@robbo000]

Cathy is a joke... she tried so hard to attack Peterson under false pretensions and illogical fallacies.

[@HappyGhetto]

They're just called logical fallacies by the way :)

[@Mortyrxx]

I am sure that her supervisors expect her to act that way in order to make him fail in his statements. She is an journalist after all, thats what they often do with people who are controversial. If she manage to talk him into saying something sexist, she is gonna make an interesting headline and thats the way her channel will be more marketable and attractive for viewers.

[@mmtot]

Mortyrxx propagandist not journalist.

[@outsideworld76]

Women are told so many lies by feminists that they actually started to see man as their enemies for no good reasons.

[@ivancaceres5371]

And failed

[@bags83]

Not one single foot put wrong throughout the whole video. Clever man indeed

[@seefore5409]

This "debate" ages like a fine wine.

[@aledbrown2040]

it really does

[@jtstevenson81]

So you're saying men age more gracefully than women?

[@henryac849]

Ikr I came back for my 100th time

[@locksmithmuggle]

"The right to not be offended" These people are insane

[@siok4375]

So true, must be the 10th time i have watched this and its still just as good

[@MangoTHC]

Jordan: blue is a color Cathy: so you’re saying that women HAVE TO have children???

[@whileistaysecluded]

Acorn 15 yeh, it’s pretty unbelievable how she does that so much.

[@qaidikramuddin]

Hhahahahaha.

[@danmccarron0]

@@whileistaysecluded It's all they have when opposing arguments are too solid. It appeals to their ever-loyal fanbase because it makes them look like they are putting up a fight. Leftists today are as desperate to hang on to mistaken beliefs as creationist fundamentalists were 100 years ago.

[@williammcnerny6850]

@@danmccarron0 this

[@drolphin]

Peterson: " Should we eat out today"?" Cathy: " So you are saying women can´t cook?"

[@theredhead1900]

So you're saying women aren't chefs in the restaurant?

[@2serveand2protect]

I don't know how about Peterson, but ...YEAH! ..that's EXACTLY what I would say! ...WOMEN CAN'T COOK! ...especially Jewish ones!...that's it! - if you want to eat well. They can hardly boil water.

[@miyojewoltsnasonth2159]

@@2serveand2protect "WOMEN CAN'T COOK! ...especially Jewish ones"? Are you a child of a Jewish mother who hates her or something? Over the years, I've eaten at several Jewish friends' house and ate food cooked by their mothers. It was often food I was unfamiliar with (in hindsight, usually Ashkenazi), but I remember almost everything being quite tasty. And as for the other major Jewish women cookers (Sephardim, Mizrahi), I can only assume it would be even tastier. Unless you're a troll, what experiences brought you to your conclusion? Were you one of the (very few) people who had a dad that cooked better than their mom?

[@2serveand2protect]

@@miyojewoltsnasonth2159 lol! :D I knew that I'd got to someone with a motherfucking problem! :D

[@miyojewoltsnasonth2159]

@@2serveand2protect Good job, Troll! Your cheque is in the mail!!!

[@pokare]

27:08 “So you are saying that we should organise our societies along the lines of the lobsters" JUST KILL ME ALREADY 😑🔫

[@billrusso8250]

The interviewer did a horrible job. She was awful.

[@piratesilver2786]

it wasn't that she was awful. It's that he was right.

[@FedericoGPena]

This interview was my entrè into Jordan Peterson a couple of years ago...I've been a fan ever since, though I hate to use such a banal term as "fan" to describe my admiration and respect for this man's intellect and reasoning. I was having a conversation with a good friend who is himself extremely intelligent; we were discussing how crazy the vibe is in society and how often people misconstrue and just [plain] don't listen to one another, and he responded by telling me he had read an interesting piece about that very notion in the paper that morning. He sent me the article, which was titled "Why No One Seems To Hear What Jordan Peterson Is Saying" [paraphrasing the title....but it was something very close to that]. Neither my friend nor I knew who this Jordan Peterson was, but the article did a very good job making its point, and there happened to be a thumbnail of this [same] interview embedded in the corner of the page...I clicked on that after reading the piece and the rest, as "they" say, is history. Not sure how long you've been aware of Peterson, but if recent I invite you to check him out. AND, don't listen to his detractors...listen to him with an open heart and an open mind. However, if you are already familiar with him disregard all I said.

[@billrusso8250]

@@FedericoGPena Thanks for your comments. I don't remember exactly when I became aware of him, but it has been at least a little over a year- maybe slightly more. I think a Canadian friend on Facebook mentioned him, and I began to look for myself. I find Jordan Peterson to be brilliant, thought-provoking, and flat out refreshing. I think he makes some people uncomfortable because he challenges accepted ideas so succinctly.

[@raigokutsar5886]

Russsoooo! *with punisher voice"

[@sqocks8254]

Indeed

[@Pizza-ji9qc]

So you are saying.....

[@Fuvail]

LOL

[@Fuvail]

she did that atleast 10 times

[@vincentrodriguez3420]

color morale 37 times.

[@Fuvail]

Vincent Rodriguez you're joking

[@manguy01]

Womansplaining at its finest.

[@allendodd4844]

She couldnt handle his honesty, she wants to win, has no desire to find truth.

[@boris5950]

She also sound like she has no scientific training. For instance: she doesn't understand what multivariate analysis (5:42) is and doesn't know what "negatively predicts" means (19:33).

[@turbotrup96]

that's what debates usually are about, unfortunately or fortunately. Fortunately, because 2 people may go so radical in their views, that some of the sideless audience might try to see the middle ground themselves.

[@goranmilic442]

​@@boris5950 Both feminists and antifeminists should not be talking about wage gap statistics without understanding this math problem: BUSINESS A 50 men works for salary of 300$. 30 women works for salary of 250$. BUSINESS B 40 men works for salary of 500$. 40 women works for salary of 450$. BUSINESS C 30 men works for salary of 700$. 50 women works for salary of 650$. TOTAL A, B, C 120 men works for average salary of 467$. 120 women works for average salary of 483$. So who is discriminated here, men or women?

[@boris5950]

@@goranmilic442 yeah, sure, everyone should have better statistics training at school, as this problem of just having a look at averages and immediately jumping to conclusions also affects people who don't identify neither as feminists nor as anti-feminists. PS : I think your example would have been quicklier compelling to me using "position" or "industry" instead of "business" ;-)

[@perseusblack478]

"NEVER TRY TO BE RIGHT, JUST FIX THE PROBLEM"

[@marcusoch2238]

I love revisiting this every know and then. This was a HUGE shockwave when it first came out. It was like a call of war for truth.

[@TianFF]

So you are saying that I got destroyed in my own show?

[@Vutha962]

@roger gerritsen yeah please let me know which show xD

[@jefferywilliams9592]

FINALLY.. Yes.. you got one right cause all of your other (So you are saying) was like, like... you were talking to someone else.... Your replies were not even part of the same conversation.. Then this.. YES you got totally owned and thrown away on your own show.

[@liamream9029]

"Power is Competence" is a profoundly beautiful statement.

[@jefferywilliams9592]

@@liamream9029 it is indeed. There are many times people have power without competance.

[@ilaser4064]

I think the thing that really pisses me off is her inability to comprehend what he's saying. She, mistakenly, decided before they met who he was and what he stood for and no matter how many times he corrected her she still kept to her initial narrative.

[@StefanMArndt]

I can sum up the interview. Cathy: So you're saying... Jordan: No, that's not what I am saying at all.

[@thenoobinvestor6930]

Jordan*

[@marcusjjabber]

Good one

[@selamtesfaye9631]

It's so difficult to watch

[@bigger62265]

Exactly! That would have been a much better title.

[@snowbrdr99]

That’s perfect!

[@dallasirushing]

How about asking him what he means. It's so annoying to keep implying what someone means when you truly don't understand what their saying. She is hard to listen to.

[@williouswashington6999]

so you're saying you hate women

[@ikasuki1]

Oh she does understand perfectly... and at some point she even realise she cannot argue back and have to change subject. but that's not her objective to present his viewpoint. Her objective was te present and paint him as a "provocateur, hating, mysoginist and transphobic man" but she failed epicly

[@dallasirushing]

Willious Washington no just some. Some men to hahahah your comment made me laugh

[@Zeuzz]

So you are saying that you are saying some thing.

[@dallasirushing]

what lol

[@baziliftikar5330]

Cathy: What gives you the right to say so..? Jordan: I'm a Clinical Psychologist.

[@youngjedi5599]

Boom! Mic drop! Lol

[@hafidiamine]

that's a flex

[@thenoobinvestor6930]

So ur saying woman can't be a clinical psychologist?

[@v-vanilla5259]

@@thenoobinvestor6930 😂

[@thenoobinvestor6930]

@@v-vanilla5259 so ur saying woman can't 😂?

[@Azkamoski]

WE'RE REACHING PATIENCE LEVELS THAT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE POSSIBLE

[@ChristophelusPulps]

Dude's a saint. I'd have started prefacing every other reply with "no, you dumbass..." three minutes in.

[@thespectatorao1483]

One and Only JB can do that.

[@Corungil]

My scouter shows 9000+.

[@SourPatchLyds]

not me. I'm pulling all my hair out over here.

[@88IrishEyes]

I actually said to my husband I would have punched her, 8 mins in! Fuck she angers me

[@iankirkpatrick2022]

Cathy: "What gives you the right to say that????" Jordan: "I'm a clinical psychologist..."

[@lakshoo9445]

Thug life 👓

[@msbramble176]

He has no expertise in politics or economics yet he claims to know about Marxism and in the process spreads misinformation

[@benny3666]

@@msbramble176 Try to prove yourself wrong. Why? So nobody else has to.

[@gregorykafanelis5093]

@@msbramble176 I have no expertise in automobiles or the laws governing them. But if I see a driver pass a red Light or Hit a pedestrian, i know for a fact that he is in the wrong. You don't need an economics degree to see how flawed marxism is, you need basic sense. Also your argument is the "argument of authority", which ks a logical fallacy, whether someone is wrong or right, doesn't Depend on their expertise, but on value of their arguments If you want to dis prove someone attack their arguments, not the person and their expertise.

[@msbramble176]

@@gregorykafanelis5093 I was countering the stated assumption of Peterson being correct due to his credentials. To understand Marxism you need to actually read the works which Peterson has admitted he has not.

[@habinezajeanbosco2853]

This man is extremely intelligent.

[@user-lb5vt4ll9c]

No Cathy Newman, that's what YOU'RE saying.

[@rhettpeter83]

boom!

[@lederpium1965]

so your saying is that she is saying what she is saying under the disguise of what he is saying to help what she is saying?

[@lettiemohammad457]

​@@lederpium1965haha

[@MrLordingit]

Don't you understand how an intererview works?

[@LaFonteCheVi]

@@MrLordingit Leading and projecting questions are not how a good interview works. That's how "gotcha!" journalism works.

[@Benefit_lines]

I can't believe it's like she's trying hard to get him pissed but the guy is soo calm he laughs at her dumb questions

This dude destroyed her credibility, when she was planning to tarnish his. Get rekt

[@pyramidion5911]

His mother made him idiot-proof.

[@MrAndyBearJr]

Not only that. He is a master of verbal Jiu Jitsu. He completely turned her own attack against her. She was befuddled by her own words.

@@MrAndyBearJr verbal karate. Verbal CQC. Lol

[@kevinragsdale6256]

Its cause he is doped up on some drug like xanax, He almost died from it a couple months back.

[@noahmahmood6727]

notice how he answers all her questions and she ignores all of his

[@Professordog1]

Exactly.

[@edamame_0]

typical toxic feminist

[@aramjupot27]

That's a women attitude for you I always see that in my house!

[@rhydianc7502]

He is the one being interviewed.

[@jonatansexdoer96]

@@rhydianc7502 Yeah but taking questions from an interviewer who is constantly getting things wrong is difficult, so he corrects her and tries to help her understand with questions to her.

[@travisskinner5201]

This woman just can’t deal with a much smarter and calm individual

[@jangabriel3117]

Jordan: "why would you not have to battle for a high quality position?" Cathy: (pretends to be deaf)

[@mustafamohammadi6637]

pissed me off

[@SanjaySingh-cj5pl]

Boss will throw her out😂😂😂

[@makke4467]

Thats actually very good question.

[@matthewschmitz1756]

Jordan Peterson: “I am VERY careful with my words” Cathey Newman: can’t relate

[@FSKgolaso]

"so what you're saying *insert the complete opposite of what he was actually saying*"

[@avidsledder]

so true, well spotted.

[@iihh517]

I'm sure she's partially doing it for the sake of the viewers. Don't you think this interview would be boring if she didn't get J. Peterson to elaborate his point in a way that the average viewers can get? It also helps him to debunk his detractors.

[@christopherbritton2677]

Mark Campling not really it’s very obvious

[@larzulrich5291]

Fributes Very typical move for feminists

[@AngryNerdBird]

Folks keep getting mad at Newman here, but Petersen uses implications in the things he's saying to communicate a lot of stuff indirectly. And he's doing it on purpose. It's a very manipulative tactic, one that works really well against someone who isn't prepared for that.

[@fuelban]

Respect, your well qued up....grate knowledge, my friend Robbin put me on to you, so will be watching again.... THANKS guys. Thom in Scotland.

[@ThatGuy-sd3zl]

Jordan: inhales Cathy: “So you’re saying we should tax people for oxygen?”

[@ms_paroxy639]

lol!

[@ellielyndon1645]

Hahahaha

[@shroomer8294]

“So your saying...” “You mean...” “But you just said...”

[@GreenRiver72]

HAHA BEST ONE!

[@makeorwellfictionagain3553]

Yes 😹😹😹

[@NZAnimeManga]

Also, some people from Channel 4 (see Cathy's retweets) are trying to selectively use random "offensive" comments on this video, to try and portray this sorry excuse for an interviewer as a victim of "harrassment". It's disgusting.

[@jimoconnor4766]

URLs? That would be handy to have.

[@theawecabinet]

I knew that would happen.

[@theawecabinet]

So you're saying.... she is not cut out for a high profile/ high flying career like mainstream media TV presenter, or politician, or CEO etc where public scrutiny is a part of the job?

[@kleptomaniagta5362]

NZAnimeManga So you’re saying Twitter accuses her of harassing lobsters?

[@regretsgalore2786]

Standard.

[@novaklija]

Jordan: "1+1 = 2" Cathy: "So you are saying that the number 3 doesn´t exist?"

[@dinulhaqq]

😂😂😂

[@rhondahumes6338]

Jordan "1+1=2" Cathy " so what your saying is a 1 can not be as good as a 2 is?"

[@quinchien]

@Logan P Stolan Logan

[@sjsmusical]

"what gives you the right to say that?" "Im a clinical psychologist" 😅😅

[@soursamurai]

Jordan: im straight. Her: so you hate gay people?

[@texeltexel2009]

Pretty much the logic used in the homosexual agenda.

[@petershury7135]

Can’t believe they aired this lol I’m so glad they did 😂

[@texeltexel2009]

@Adolf Hitler Everybody is equal under the Law/Constitution. Any additional laws specifically for some groups of people are just special privileges, which creates the very thing you guys are supposedly fighting against, which is inequality.

[@praz7]

@Adolf Hitler Radical left have agenda

[@yengsabio5315]

@@texeltexel2009 Hear, hear!

[@thomaswoodward8574]

"I'm hungry." "So you're saying that women SHOULDN'T be hungry?"

[@dylanfenton3341]

No I'm saying they should cook

[@MusicTennis]

@@dylanfenton3341 Spot on !

[@bastje]

@@dylanfenton3341 :'D

[@steverapatas7246]

"What gives you the right to say that?" "I'm a clinical psychologist"

[@rad3009]

steve rapatas 😂 best line

[@traviswinchesterart]

Man I died when he said that xD

[@cafeta]

HeadShoot, LOL!!!!

[@takeoffyourblinkers]

Biggest mic drop...

[@luaking84]

OHHHHHH! *Guy falls forward, hands on face, eyes rolled back and jaw wide open.

[@chrislikescandy]

This woman didn't want to have a rational conversation - she just wanted to attack this guy. Weak.

[@everyonesaidmynamewasstupi3713]

chrislikescandy she’s not weak, she just wants to produce a good headline for her company. it’s in her interest to get something controversial out of him.

[@morantNO1]

British leftwing media in a nutshell.

[@edungedward6280]

maybe that is why they claim women make less, they can not be rational.. LOLOLOL

[@everyonesaidmynamewasstupi3713]

Edung Edward oh no

[@nikkielynn6018]

I completely agree she reversed everything he said in a negative.

[@maggieann6437]

This woman has zero grasp on nuance... she keeps grasping for black and white awnsers when the issues are so much more grey and layered...she is so hopeless...

[@JT-sq3sn]

Maggy ann Insufficient intellectual prowess.

[@Captain_MonsterFart]

Most people are like that, sadly.

[@talleyrand9442]

Not only that. She was playing the victim and hoping to make him come off bad. She listened to none of his advice. She played the damsel in distress. Not a successful attitude.

[@maggieann6437]

Im not worked up lol I was just making an observation...

[@fwalsh101]

Maggy ann It wasn't directed at anyone in perticular & I don't stand by it. I thought she was just another channel4 slimeball provocateur at first. I'm surprised they are going to so much effort to discredit JP.