Saviour Complex: 7 Signs You're A Hurting Hero (Read This Psychology) - Inner Work Library [174/500]

[@jordanthornton]

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[@Julez108]

Infinite freedom lies beyond this matrix

[@jordanthornton]

Sure, why not?

[@PriyaPrasad-u5h]

Really divine timing and eerie synchronicity with this talk. Seems profoundly magical and mystical, and looks like I am on the right Path.

[@jordanthornton]

Here for those spooky syncs - enjoy the books!

[@holism]

Especially at 77.7k subscribers

[@arpita.patnaik]

Thank you for caling out my shadow in this video! Hits a spot and I will be working on it. :)

[@jordanthornton]

Hope the last few days have flowed well for you 🌲

[@arpita.patnaik]

@@jordanthornton so many revelations! can't thank you enough for existing.

[@gnosis555]

I love the underdog and helping them out. I get vicarious pleasure through their growth and joy and feel needed and validated in life. This is due to feeling worthless, unloved as a child, and a sense of guilt being born. This has been a tricky issue I’ve had to work on since age 13. Most important thing I learned is boundaries. I can help but do not identify or get entangled in other peoples karma. Develop a sense of self outside of other peoples validation. Put myself first. Seek out relations with people with equal power to me or more.

[@jordanthornton]

You’re finding your balance, patiently and authentically. You got this.

[@AboutForget]

¡Gracias! 🌸

[@jordanthornton]

Thank you for your kindness, I'll put this towards the next books. Cheers.

[@AboutForget]

@ Lot of love from Chile. 🇨🇱 Thanks for your light. 🌻

[@eileenmcgoldrick8849]

Thank you, thank you, thank you 🙏🏽

[@jordanthornton]

🌲✌🏻

[@edited089]

the best thing about your videos is that their is no background music or nothing which makes you indulge in the video. Hence it creates a great sense of focus and really reduces headache . Thank you very much Jordan

[@jordanthornton]

This atmosphere is exactly what I aim towards - thanks for being here and stay steady 🌲

[@Naomi-ji5si]

I don't think I've ever: 1. Listened to a single video all the way through without impulsively starting to multi-task, but you had my attention with the accuracy. 2. Heard anyone so simply and easily explain to me the thread that ties all my early childhood experiences & adult relationships together seamlessly. Thank you for making those connections for me. The first 3 items really hit so close to home. I'm looking forward to reading the recommendations.

[@jordanthornton]

This means a lot for me to read, and I’m glad my work has such an effect on you - you’ll love these books, make sure to get them 🌲

[@edited089]

I just really love the idea that a guy is reading books and tells me about them .

[@jordanthornton]

That’s me ✌🏻

[@sahrakim6910]

I can't stop replying this I'm so impressed ❤😮😮

[@auracristea9863]

“Where your fear is, there is your task”. CG Jung - Well, in this case, where my illusions are challenged by hard truths. Thank you, Jordan! As always, you’re the voice of reason. 👍

[@sahrakim6910]

Your talented 🎉🎉 I learned a lot thank you ❤😊

[@Urmitha]

hey Mr Jordon. I felt really thankful for your content. Literally all videos felt very authentic. i felt a great sense of not been misleaded from truth

[@Jacqueoldfield]

Thank you Jordan , eternally grateful,🌲💜🌲Your content blows my mind.

[@jordanthornton]

Thank you for being here every week.

[@sebastiangruffydd2765]

Dude, you have my full admiration. Your are the embodiment of the Golden Mean Greek Ideal. Also, you have the most fantastic male voice I have ever hear in my 72 years of life so far. You are nothing short of phenomenal. Great job, guy. Shalom.

[@jordanthornton]

Cheers for taking the time to say this. Will keep doing my best.

[@ChristoScriven]

Honestly I came into this video for curiosity, and saw myself reflected in pretty much all 7 points. For #3 it wasn’t so much about having to parent my parents, but having to parent myself. I feel like I’ve already dug into many of these points, but there is definitely more digging to do. Thanks man, you’re playing a part in changing my world 😜

[@jordanthornton]

Thank you for the work that you are doing to help other people change their worlds for the best too, brother 🔥 You’ll love these books, especially facing the dragon.

[@laresiaschuelke2441]

This has been a tough one to find balance with for sure. 🙏❤️

[@jordanthornton]

I know what you mean, but I hope the books help you out - make sure not to sleep on these.

[@laresiaschuelke2441]

@@jordanthornton I really appreciate it and I definitely will be reading them. 👍

[@Powderbluu]

i rewatched already for the 3rd time. its describing me all so well. my consciousness tries to hide the info from me. too high of ocgnitive dissonance. but i will take action for it, and read such a book. hope this video reaches everybody who needs it.

[@jordanthornton]

Thanks for going extra deep here. I trust your new books arrived well?

[@Powderbluu]

@ few of them I could find on „scribd“. And the others are already on the way to my mailbox

[@gailaltschwager7377]

Thank you, Jordan!

[@jordanthornton]

Always my pleasure 🌲

[@integratedalchemist]

I think I've flip flopped between these two, been the savior to one of my parents, got grandiose, turned into a bully for a short time, burned out or at least got horribly humbled, got psychosis, turned into a victim, relied on saviors too much, healed myself, to into my own savior 😂, then to a certain but lesser extent tried to be other's savior again, had it blow up whole life and seriously humble me again without being too grandiose about it that time, but totally wind up in the existential crisis again called my 30's. Life is getting much better again, but I've distanced myself from friends that used to share the same kind of grandiosity/emptiness and I'd rather be alone and empty and feel my way closer to my own humanity, then be surrounded by my own projections/ego that I know aren't the real me.

[@jordanthornton]

It sounds like it's been a truly significant journey for you in the last few years, I'm happy to hear of the progress so far and I'm wishing you the best in the closing weeks of this year.

[@integratedalchemist]

@jordanthornton Thanks, your videos mean a lot

[@tg_5565]

Ahhhhh, yes. I recognize a bit of that. Thank you. Well done

[@josefehoraku]

So good, really landed

[@sburgos9621]

I noticed I have a savior complex when it comes to romantic relationships. The worst part about it is that I put all of my energy into raising my partner up and less on myself and they end up leaving once they have been lifted to a certain point. My family notices this and brings it up but oddly enough my partner never acknowledges it in the end of the relationship, only in the beginning do they tell me their friends and family tell them since we started dating they have changed in a positive way. Sometimes I wonder if they even realize what happened at the end or if they think that I am holding them back once they are better.

[@jordanthornton]

It’s a hard situation to be in, but it sounds like you’re finding a good balance overall. Keep looking, and you’ll find.

[@stenpoldsamm9732]

I think my saviour complex brought me to my job as a personal/online trainer/mentor. 🤯

[@jordanthornton]

Led me to being the kind of guy who makes these videos - I can relate lol

[@Ericatrue2.0]

I do want and have read things. I dont feel grandiose really. I just feel the need to help. My family is from a geto. So It doesn't take much to be smarter. Though I don't know for sure how well I am really understanding what I learn. That's why I watch these things like your podcast. However there is alot of things in this I do relate to.though I've taken so many hits that at least I've done something right in the direction needed to heal this aspect of myself. Thank you for your work.

[@jordanthornton]

I can relate to what you’re sharing here, thank you for being a good person in this world 🌲

[@carlorizzo827]

ThankU Jordan Love your thought process! Not sure where I fall on the spectrum. Re losers, ahem,... I am one. I shy away from using that term. Loss is part of life, grief likewise. Compassion, not contempt. I was a bodyworker, implicitly it's a calling to heal others' pain, to rescue. And yet i recognized i was average. I had a significant failing: my hands are deaf. They are good at putting out energy, but not receiving information. The really talented bodyworkers are like psychics via their hands. As to my legacy, I am indifferent. Life broke my spirit. I better check out the video on victim complex

[@haydenkerr4151]

Great video. I would love a video on being susceptible to addiction whether good or bad I haven't been able to find much about if one person has a higher chance of addictive actions vs another.

[@jordanthornton]

Check out the channel - search the word and you'll find some videos.

[@Lifelover-zj3oo]

Painfully relatable 🙄😬 Thank you, Jordan 🤍

[@jordanthornton]

Thanks for being here, even with the pain lol

[@WeRNthisToGetHer]

I have this. I realize it's unhealthy and I am working on it. I don't know if I'll ever truly stop, just be wiser about who and how I help. I literally HAVE to have something or someone to nurture or encourage or I get depressed and unmotivated.

[@riniraw]

Lots of profound thoughts I don't know if I'm willing to share online. This video allowed me to appreciate my journey so far, and to be grateful for it. all of it. Facing The Dragon looks fascinating.👀 I find that I gravitate towards learning more and more about cults and spiritual grandiosity. Learning about these topics feels so immersive to me it provides me with much needed dose of escapism. I wonder why that is. Yay to conscious saviors 💪🐻

[@jordanthornton]

Three cheers for conscious saviours, yes 🌲🌲🌲

[@NN-ht1lp]

Thank you.

[@jordanthornton]

My pleasure, be well.

[@allsortkv2075]

One of my personalities has the victim complex the other personality has both of them, and things have gotten stranger since I died 🤷

[@jordanthornton]

What a challenge lol

[@FawkesDawn]

Guilty. Thank you 🥲

[@jordanthornton]

You got this ✌🏻

[@user-gd5tq7df8h]

Relieved to come to the last bit, where I find myself currently. Ooff..

[@dianevierra781]

Thanks for thinking of the US when the hurricane hit.

[@jordanthornton]

Of course, impossible not to. I'm glad it wasn't as devastating as the news was predicting.

[@lexuscrow1932]

Robert Moore is full of wisdom. Came here for the book in the thumbnail.

[@jordanthornton]

Completely agree. He’s a legend.

[@annetallegrand5656]

I have a Savior Complex and a God Complex, I’m also grandiose. It’s built into my DNA 🧬 look at my last name. And I was identified as intellectually gifted quite early. I feel superb I have nurturing healing powers😂I fix stuff. People too, I’ve been this way for years. I’ve been both “mommy little helper” and “daddy’s little girl” Clearly, I’m a freaking princess 👸🏽😂 ER nurse and mental health counselor 😅I’m a hero 🦸🏽

[@jordanthornton]

Perhaps the best of time's to explore the flip side of the story with the Victim Complex - I can relate to some of your story, and it's interesting to go into those shadow opposites.

[@introvertedfeeler2215]

This one hit home. Also a profoundly powerful synchronicity as I just did a Shadow Work exercise akin to 'show me what I don't want to see'. This video spawned itself *instantly.* Recognized strong shame around the saviour/victim complexes. Almost felt an urge to trauma dump in the comments; sat with it instead. The only victim complex video I see is a year ago and doesn't seem to be structured the same way. The video linked in this one is, for me at least, a livestream Q&A. What's the name of the victim complex video? Thanks. 🙏

[@meshavillar]

Hey guy, I had the same question. Saw on a community post that the victim complex video comes out on the 27th. Super interesting topic, excitedly waiting for the next vid 🙂

[@jordanthornton]

Great reflections, thank you - and I trust you’ve probably already found the victim complex video too?

[@Lifelover-zj3oo]

with Type 1 on the enneagram as the second in my tritype: I relate very deeply :)

[@jordanthornton]

Sure thing, hope you find these books good for you!

[@jamesmccool503]

Actually...it's because I identify with people who life hasn't been kind to. Life wasn't kind to me when I was a kid. Sure a lot of people had it much worse. But it still wasn't kind and certainly not fair. I have always tried to help people who are in a bad spot out. I have only recently been able to see that almost everyone past a certain age is absolutely responsible for their own situation. You just can't help the vast majority people. As much as you may want to, most people are idiots and you will simply enable them to continue to be idiots with you paying for their bad decisions. I have helped very few people in life without regretting it.

[@jordanthornton]

It’s true that many people cannot be helped until they’re ready… but I have hope for when the time is right.

[@jamesmccool503]

​@@jordanthorntonTo be honest. My issues with always trying to help people is a mixed bag. I can see some of what you are talking about in my own life, but a lot of it I don't. I have recently started to try to really work on myself. I just wanted to say thank you for your videos. They have given me a good starting point.

[@jamesmccool503]

@DanielMadeNew You can't help people who won't help themselves. That is just a fact. I have genuine compassion for most people. I have always been ready to believe someone sob story because life is hard on people for no fkn reason. I try to help people because life wasn't great for me when I was younger. If I had had someone in my life to help me, my younger years would have been a little better. I am not trying to be seen as a hero. Unfortunately, it usually ends up being me "saving" them over and over again from the consequences of their own actions. Until I eventually have to ask myself why I am even trying to help them. Most of the people turn out to be black holes of helping. It doesn't matter what you do for them. They are still going to destroy their own lives. This is why they are idiots. I have a tendency to "help" people for YEARS on end. To the point I regret even trying. If you think coming to the realization that you just can't help them because no matter what you do, they ALMOST ALWAYS screw it up, is narcissistic, then be ready to become their enabler. Because that is where it leads. Actually helping someone and being their enabler looks the same from your end. The difference is in what they do when helped. Do they continue to make the same mistakes and need your help to avoid the consequences of those mistakes over and over again? If the answer is yes, you are an enabler. You end up harming them more than helping them, and in the process, you will end up hurting yourself. I have been able to help a few people. I don't get anything from helping them other than knowing I helped someone. However, from now on, I am going to judge whether or not they are worthy of my continued help by their actions and not their sob story. All users have a sob story. That's not being narcissistic. It's just the reality of it. As a matter of fact I just found out last weekend that 2 people I tried to help for on and off for far longer than I should have were arrested because they were living in a tent doing meth. The reason I found out is because one of their children messaged looking for her younger sisters' urn because it wasn't in her mother's and her mother's baby's daddy meth tent. Her mother left her little sisters urn at another meth monkeys house. Like I said, black holes of helping. Their lives were not that bad when I was in the picture trying to keep them straight, but it was ALWAYS a struggle just to try to keep them out of trouble. Once my wife and I moved, they predictably destroyed their own lives. Being non-judgemental will have you trying to help people who can't be helped.

[@jamesmccool503]

​@DanielMadeNew Trying to be non-judgemental will have you helping people who will take advantage of you. It will have you enabling people to make the same mistakes in their lives over and over again. You end up repeatedly "saving them" from the consequences of their own actions. That's why they are idiots, because nothing you do will ever be enough. It isn't narcissistic to say most people can't be helped because they won't help themselves. That is just reality. Who is and who isn't worthy to be helped boils down to what they do after you help them. Helping and enabling look similar from the perspective of the person trying to help. If the person receiving the help keeps getting themselves into the same types of situations afterwards. You are enabling them. I have actually helped a several people in my life. I am not looking for praise. I don't get anything from it other than knowing I helped them. However, most people don't actually want help. They want an enabler. Everyone has a sob story. Some of them are genuine runs of bad luck. However, most of the time, they brought their misfortune on themselves and aren't willing to change anything to stop it from happening again. It doesn't matter whether or not you believe they are worthy of your help. The end results will often be the same. With the exception that you could have saved yourself time and effort and maybe have helped someone else and it actually have made a difference. That is assuming you pay more attention to their actions than their sob story after you help them the first time.

[@Prakharforu]

​@@DanielMadeNew Not everybody is aiming to be better. Some just want to look they are trying and internally wants to fail to justify the unfairness of life.

[@KoltronZer0]

Wanted to suggest a book related to spiritual grandiosity: Cutting Though Spiritual Materialism by Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche

[@jordanthornton]

Classic! Great read.

[@officialbipesh]

I never knew till now why I always liked side characters than Main Heroes, Failing characters and who are not able to achieve their objective

[@ConnorLepp]

Thanks. So the elements of this that become skillful find there place because the fantasies, compulsions, and identifications are reduced or ended? Left with, service of a gift without a need or superiority to the giftee?

[@jordanthornton]

Something like this, yes - have you picked up the books? They're golden.

[@Xeweros]

Damn, this video hit home on multiple points... Not sure if it fit, but sometime i could help. But i dont, i am just watching, observing. I am just curious on how they are going to solve it, suffer because of it or whats going to happen. Feels like i behave similar to some arrogant, all knowing god...

[@jordanthornton]

It’s hard for us to find the right balance, that’s for sure… we gotta stay steady 🌲

[@Xeweros]

@jordanthornton its kind of a dare if you do and dare if you dont. But in the end we need to try to make the proper decision of the situation, stand for our decision and not regret it.

[@jakebailey9129]

Does it have to be magical thinking? What we are able to achieve in life is directly limited by the size of our dreams, what about the Einsteins, Jung and Teslas? Or is this closer to the archetype of the maverick?

[@jordanthornton]

Great questions - the key point is dreaming with your feet on the earth. These great individuals find ways to materialise their vision, and that’s wonderful.

[@Circe-wz3kg]

Can we get video about narcissism pls?

[@jordanthornton]

Sadly no, it's not a topic I'm going to make because it attracts the wrong kind of algorithm - but you can check out Sam Vaknin's work if you like.

[@salivadriven]

Wow I swing in both directions…….sometimes wildly. The victim mentality is the worst. So helpless, hopeless. My parents modeled this stuff for me; both claiming the victim of each other’s actions, not taking responsibility for the part they played. Life always seemed to happen TO them. I realise I tend to do similar. Ugh.

[@jordanthornton]

Sounds like a confusing environment, but I’m glad you’re finding your middle balance here. Stay steady 🌲

[@meshavillar]

Will you link the victim complex video you mentioned? The next vid that came up where you pointed was the live stream Q & A. There is one on your channel from a year ago with victim mentality in the title. Would that be the right one?

[@meshavillar]

Nevermind, I saw on the community post that the video will be available Sunday. 😁

[@jordanthornton]

It’s out now ✌🏻

[@ChristoScriven]

Man, where do you find these books?! Also, how do you have the time to reply to all these comments??!

[@jordanthornton]

Bibliography bounce, one book always leads to the next if you follow the sources and references - been a five year process 🌲 In terms of comments, I’ve always felt it important to respond to everybody if I have the capacity - and I do have the capacity because the attention given to me deserves to be returned and acknowledged. Think I’ve left about 12,000 comments on my own channel in the last three years lol

[@yinglan9606]

8 billion you say 👀 📕 🍽️

[@jordanthornton]

I shall never regret these words.

[@meshavillar]

I am a fairly decent cook. While this video climbs in number of views, I'll be creating new recipes that incorporate books 😉 😂

[@beckymagnolia1]

Oh no Jordan! I'm only five minutes in and I'm seeing myself...ack! Well looks like I have another shadow friend to look at. Ha!

[@jordanthornton]

You got this.

[@camgyov1262]

Hello, I just wanted to ask over the course of how many years have you read all of these books?

[@jordanthornton]

5 years, to the month.

[@NH-xl6du]

.. well, I found my inner Loser and saved him 😇

[@rshicks256]

✝️

[@Timeless_Lea]

Oh yes… 🙁❤️‍🩹

[@jordanthornton]

🌲🌲

[@saturnprince.23]

How do I fix this

[@jordanthornton]

Did you watch the video all the way through? Also make sure to pickup the recommended materials - be well ✌🏻

[@constanzebeck1887]

I'm sorry, Jordan, you lost me the moment you said something along those lines "The most immature is the person who sits at home meditating thinking this is enough or they talk a big talk with their friends in the café while they don't even have a stable income..." Ehm. It might be just my "immature" view, but some of the most life changing moments happened when I talked the "big talk" with my friends in a café, and I want to see more people doing that. To inspire each other and have hope and drive to change the world, even though they don't exactly know how yet. And to choose "unstable income" as a factor of maturity... man, I expected something less shallow from you. To anyone who's meditating, having conversations with friends, not earning consistent money: I see you and I love you and the spirit you're carrying with you is so needed and valued on this Earth in these times. Keep on doing what you're doing. It is indeed life changing.

[@jordanthornton]

I believe that you’ve misunderstood me and layered something on-top of my actual words and energy here - we dream, and we materialise those dreams. I want to see powerful people following through to completion.

[@constanzebeck1887]

@@jordanthornton I see that there's some misunderstanding from my side. I guess it touched a vulnerable part of mine, something that I used to judge about myself. I also want to see dreams being realized, but we never truly know what hidden meaning and impact lies behind the little things we do, I guess that's the point I felt the need to add. Next time I'll do it without putting misplaced energy on your words.

[@jordanthornton]

@@constanzebeck1887 Appreciate your warmheartedness here, be well in the new week.

[@nickmcgruber7052]

I feel attacked

[@jordanthornton]

In the best way, I hope? Right there with you with many of these signs 🌲

[@louisfifteen]

Is that why you're here?

[@jordanthornton]

Maybe

[@louisfifteen]

@@jordanthornton I appreciate that.

[@Ponce.De.Lejeune]

I AM GOD THE FATHER ALMIGHTY 👹

[@jordanthornton]

Sure thing lol

[@vinsaintmichael]

I think the savior complex is the false prophet, the second beast. 🤔

[@jordanthornton]

Hmm - what do you mean?

[@carlorizzo827]

Likewise, am curious to know what you mean. What's the first beast?