Jordyn Wieber vs Viktoria Komova {2011 World Championships}

[@Lovememore231]

Komova is such a gorgeous gymnast!

[@objetivista686]

It's unbelievable how Komova, clearly superior to Wieber, still loses first place. I didn't understand their score on the beam. It seems to me that they had equal difficulty scores, but the scores are very discrepant. Wieber did well, despite her atrocious form. But I didn't see any big mistakes about Komova. Poor girl.

[@Vermontist1]

Komova had numerous wobbles, but gloriously beautiful form. Weiber had one small mistake, but inferior form.

[@GoldForAnna]

Poor girl and poor world. The best gymnast should won.

[@objetivista686]

​@@Vermontist1very small wobbles.

[@jerrybalote8243]

This is clear robbery! Poor Komova🥲 She was robbed twice by a Gold to an undeserving Americans!!!💔💔💔

[@objetivista686]

@AwfaKimah makes no sense at all, sorry. Maybe if you comment sober

[@jonasmari8612]

I like Komova overall when compared to Wieber, but when people say things like "underscored" or "robbed" without pointing out specific D or E scores based on the 2012 CoP, then their assessment has a lot less weight. Weiber's cumulative D score absorbed her big deductions on Bars. Komova had small errrors in Beam and Floor, but they were in aggregate pretty large and yielded a lot of deductions. Komova's overall atistry beats Wieber's hands down. However the 2012 CoP didnt weigh that as much in the E scores. So stop making empty statements without context. I think they were too lenient on Komova's wobbles on beam, which could've led to .2-.4 more in deductions. Wieber shouldve gotten .2-.3 more deductions on bars. They were a bit too harsh on the vault scores for both, about .1 each. Not sure if the outcome would change even with those discrepancies.

[@matthewaldrich8361]

Its the scoring system. Its about difficulty vs execution. Some athletes have enough difficulty in order to afford an execution mistake

[@bagelized]

This era’s Amanars were so half cooked, I mean she starts twisting before her hands even leave the table lmao, and she barely finds the landing in time.

[@linlouwho123]

Jordan Weiber really got screwed by the amateur/professional rules. I think it was part of the impedes for changing ing the rules.

[@tatsianaa4408]

Komova is a great gymnast, but looks like mentally she was never ready to compete on such a high level, when the result didn't meet her expectation she cried and lost focus. I remember London OG she competed on beam and uneven bars and made sometimes silly mistakes like she lost interest to fight after AA silver

[@GoldForAnna]

Komova deserved by far the gold over Wieber. A world champion doesn't the mistakes Wieber did on uneven bars and on floor.

[@worldartgym]

If Komova had steadier landings on floor it would have been hers.

[@GoldForAnna]

No. A world champion hasn't her legs fall off in her AA bars routine. And a world champion doesn't fall down the bars at the apparatus final. Komova has everything, the highest level in tumbling and the best in artistry. Wieber shows what she's able to do.

[@worldartgym]

@@GoldForAnna mathematically, based on results, a cleaner floor routine and we would have seen different results.

[@GoldForAnna]

Yes, and without a clean bar and a clean floor routine, Wieber won.

[@dancingrick1014]

@@GoldForAnnayou’re just hating on wieber at this point, komova’s beam was shaky af which is why wieber was able to catch up to her, and then wieber had a pretty clean floor (apart from the 0.1 penalty for the step out), meanwhile komova’s landing all had deductions (some major). Yes komova blew her out of the water on bars, but Wieber blew her out of the water on Vault. Both are incredible athletes, which explains the results

[@pme8370]

Komova didn’t do an Amanar at these worlds. If she had she would have crushed Jordyn. That’s what made the difference at the Olympics (one thing out of many) by the Olympics Komova’s start values combined were a point higher than Jordyn’s.

[@kristincusick1342]

This is the first thing I saw when I started watching. Komova did a DTY and not an Amanar. She was capable of an Amanar and it would have made way more sense to do one. It cost her the win.

[@ashleyjiang1333]

​@@kristincusick1342 komova had an ankle surgery and only started training 3 months before the 2011 worlds that's why she didn't do the amanar

[@luisquijano1040]

​@@kristincusick1342 Komova was recovering thats why she did not do the Amanar, Fabrichnova and Patterson, that would have granted her a full point over weiber

[@lifeandstylewiththedivas4688]

I remember how Komova’s mother didn’t always have the most difficulty but impeccable form and execution in her Goodwill Games win. Komova seemed to lack focus and fight when she needed it most. That last floor pass deduction was lazy. She could’ve fought for that. Just like her AA vault in 2012.

[@themotherlandcalls9019]

Komova is a gorgeous gymnast with a superior technique and Wieber is a tumbler....Still, Wieber takes the gold

[@silviosorbera4385]

Watch ballet instead of gymnastics

[@pedrojorge1912]

Thanks! Great work putting together the comparisons _and_ using the high quality videos. Maybe you could do for other finals as well, like Hurd vs Black (2017), Melnikova vs Leanne (2021) or Andrade vs Jones (2022)? Sadly FIG never released the detailed scores from that final, so we can, at most, suppose the E-scores based on the possible D-scores given. For example, Wieber's vault received a higher execution than Komova's (9.216 vs 9.133), what seems unfair. I think Komova had a superior program, but had more visible mistakes on BB and FX and that summed with a little help from the judges for Wieber.

[@qqvw217]

Jordan out of the line !!!… one step out side and she still win the gold ?!.. what was that ??!!!!

[@Vermontist1]

One step is 0.1 + OOB is 0.1

[@silviosorbera4385]

Learn the code

[@IgorVattimo-op9q]

There’s one move of Komova where her feet touch the bar on the UB… there’s a discount because of that?

[@luisgustaffroblesponce5917]

Yes, mayor fall

[@olgaszoke9241]

wieber's bb she didnt link anything, how was this pointed that the time?

[@RaymonPizziolo]

several errors in Jordyn Wieber's parallels, they stole

[@carolinegoss856]

Komovo baubles big time and at least four times on the beam. Jordan did not. From what I saw, Jordan deserved the win. On the her floor routine, Komovo did not land her second nor her last jump well, and she fell out of one of her turns. Yes Jordan stepped out of boundaries once, but her jumps were all clean, and her quadruple turn was flawless. Sorry, didn’t think the Russian was superior in any way in this competition.

[@PamelaEnglish-ew8nf]

Endless speculation. I wonder if we could get artificial intelligence to score routines (at least the basics and the major things)

[@worldartgym]

I think in the very near future. I believe they’ve already started using AI to judge still rings but I think within 10 years there will be advancements in analysis

[@ntabon0219]

Go Jordyn and Go Gabby❤❤ Komova is a great gymnast, on the day it counted she just got beat.

[@veronicagalante3032]

by judges, not by Weiber

[@OsirisDiaz-bs4wq]

Pues a Jordyn weber le dieron la medalla pero todos sabemos que Viktoria Komova fue la verdadera campeona absoluta en 2011 y en Londres 2012 también lo fue y muchos no reconocemos a Gabrielle Douglas como campeona olímpica y tampoco a jordyn weber y mucho menos a carly patersson 2004

[@ivandalito]

Viktoria forever ❤

[@Lorena-xn9bf]

Wieber is amazing, but Komova deserved gold

[@SandyKH]

I forget how well both Weiber and Komova danced. While Komova has a more balletic style, Weiber is certainly a comfortable and competant dancer that uses good extension and body form. They both generally had control over their landings, and both used quite modern music (at the time) to get the speed needed for the very difficult tumbling. Komova was far better on bars (consistently) and Weiber had the stronger vault. Neither were particularly consistent on beam, which proved problematic in the end for them both. It was always who performed best on the day would win... this time, it was Weiber's.

[@Julia-jl7ot]

El ejercicio de asimetricas de weber es de risa 😂😂

[@Fer-fy8dx]

¿Porqué? Que parte?

[@danch5602]

Really? Komova second in 2011 and 2012?

[@gabrielacruz8127]

Intereses politicos

[@tkimaginestudio]

Don't know much about the difficulties nor the scoring but it looks to me Komova was robbed.

[@colesmith7509]

So basically “I am very uninformed but I am making an opinion based on no information anyways”

[@westonhardy2404]

Im a big fan of Komova but if only she had better floor routine and execution . Jordyn was a true winner .

[@MajorMajesticIce]

Yall still mad the loser lost! Get over it! She was weak on floor!

[@ash3878]

Jord vault score 💀💀

[@richardvergara]

Poor thing. Komova must HATE America. Both times second to an American champion. She's so amazing though.

[@gerrardkano]

The real world champion Viktoria Komova ❤

[@Mature]

Komova is an Olympian. She cemented herself for life by having her own technique on UB named after her. Weiber is just a gymnast.

[@davidfernandez2733]

Wieber is also an Olympian

[@silviosorbera4385]

Wieber has Olympic gold medal + AA world medal. Does komova have any of these? Has Wieber ever behaved like a crybaby for getting silver?

[@cherryru2110]

In the competition between a horse and a fallow deer, the english horse won at the wich of the judges

[@olgaszoke9241]

this was robbery

[@olgaszoke9241]

Wieber's UB was criminal, very bad execution

[@JoseCoronado-o3c]

Le robaron a Komova el título

[@jonathantargaryen4254]

Lomo a merecía el oro

[@hoaniman1]

Well, from what i just watched I think Komova should have won the gold, Weber made more mistakes, the difficulty in her routines were less than Komova....

[@gabrielacruz8127]

Humillaron a las rusas y le dieron la preferencia alas gringas esas😮 cuando victoria tenia mejor puntuación. Que fraude.

[@melissabeerman83]

Gringas? Prejudice much? I would have liked to have seen the difficulty scores for both gymnasts tbh.

[@rickmortt8546]

Let me guess, Weber has asthma and adhd

[@rickmortt8546]

Was right, so funny how all American athletes have asthma 😂

[@Marketoromagnolo]

Wieber deserved by far the gold over Komova

[@unknownuser-r5o]

But Komova is one in a lifetime. Gymnasts like wieber we see every year, nothing spectacular

[@matthewkretschmer7010]

I agree

[@Marketoromagnolo]

@AwfaKimah lol

[@jonasmari8612]

I agree. I think most days, Komova is a better gymnast. Just not this day, especially with the small errors that really added up.

[@BranchDavidian-]

@@jonasmari8612added up to… 0.033 difference if I recall, enough for judging errors to make a difference

[@danyaloxxxxx]

Сначала на чемпионате мира украли золото у Вики, апеляции не было, потом безнаказанно украли олимпийскую золотую медаль!!! Вика сильнее, медаль Викина!!!!

[@henryleslie1396]

komova's beam is so underscored here, should be a 14.8-14.9

[@cgheat2397]

I think why she scored so low is because the L-turn, front aerial, and wolf jump are supposed to be connected but she missed it which drops her difficulty, and she wobbled on all three skills in a row which affected the execution. Breaking connects costs more than people realize.