Joseph Smith and Masonry | Now You Know

[@woodysmith4608]

woe to those who call evil good and good evil..

[@wesleynunez3825]

You got that right Woody. God bless you.

[@Israel-of-Yah]

Amen to that. We know who Freemasons really worship, don't we.

[@debbienunes2522]

The current prophet told members to get the COVID vaccine. That says it all.💔

[@00Fisher00]

@@Israel-of-Yah Do you?

[@daynal9594]

@@00Fisher00 Well...we know Who they don't worship. Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Masonry is a masquerade and its easy for those involved to become caught up in doing their "good deeds" here on Earth. *Acts 4:12 NIV Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.*

[@liquidschwartz38]

Why am I watching a video made by Mormons at 1 o’clock in the morning

[@franklingarcia4712]

Well Karman, I don´t know but Kenny just got killed!

[@zissler1]

Jesus led you here.

[@anadlm9028]

zissler or not.

[@The_Other_Ghost]

Did the Mormon episode bring you here?

[@thevigilant266]

I know right 😂

[@DiscernmentNow]

"A Double-minded man is unstable in ALL his ways ..."

[@bemotivated8443]

Albert Pike was also a Freemason, look up Albert Pike the three World wars letter

[@skylerreddy5436]

Ironic, a free Mason as Joseph who tried to find protection from masons, was left alone from the brotherhood in many instances of his life. Read about the beginnings of masonry, the founders had to change their history about how to be more efective in bringing more people into the brotherhood. Read how little Joseph knew about the Mason's deep rituals. By the way, Joseph Smith was a true prophet of GOD. This knowledge is independent from any person in this world, because i have prayed about it, and this knowledge comes from The Holy Spirit.

[@d.charlespyle]

@@skylerreddy5436 "Read how little Joseph knew about the Mason's deep rituals." Careful on that subject matter. Much of what you've likely heard about that actually originated in hoaxes and people deceiving the public to make a buck.

[@wesleynunez3825]

@@skylerreddy5436 Jesus Christ is our Lord and Freemasonry is Satanism.

[@jacobforbes1434]

So you must be on the floor then right?

[@che6630]

... so you're saying that J Smith had no engagement with Masnory until he joined,, and therefore church rituals couldn't possibly have originated from the Masons, yet his FATHER WAS A MASTER MASON...?!!! hmm...

[@00Fisher00]

No, Joseph Smith recognized some truth in certain symbols that Freemasons used and incorporated those along with revelation he received. If you study the details, it boils down to basically that.

[@kaneTESP]

God bless!! Repent, for The Kingdom of God is at hand!

[@d.charlespyle]

You're expecting that Joseph Smith's father blabbed everything to Joseph Smith? You really think he would violate his obligations as a Mason? Hyrum Smith also was a Mason. Some called him a "High Mason" but do you really think he would violate his obligations as Mason? For what purpose? What genuine, primary evidence have you for that? Then again, a lot of what has been claimed about the Masonic connections has been utterly without merit. Frequently, the starting point for the claims and comparisons have been from rituals in which Joseph Smith couldn't have participated, such as from older versions of the Scottish Rite (there also was no Scottish Rite in Illinois until 1846), or from Monitors published in 1860 or later, or from obscure rituals or organizations of which Joseph Smith would not have been aware. Anyone can take snippets of text out of context from various sources, rearrange them, and then claim that they are direct evidence of borrowing. Are there some elements that have a certain amount of correspondence? Yes. But is one just a copy of the other? No. Not at all. An apostate from the Church, Fanny Stenhouse (whose husband also was a Mason at one time), said the following about such claims: "I has always been commonly reported, and to a great extent believed, that the mysteries of the Endowment House were only a sort of imitation--burlesque, it might be--of the Rites of Masonry; but I need hardly say that this statement when examined by the light of facts is altogether ungrounded and absurd...." (Fanny Stenhouse, _"Tell It All": The Story of a Life's Experience in Mormonism_ [Hartford: A. D. Worthington and Co., 1875], 354.)

[@d.charlespyle]

@@OmegaMan28 No, he did not. We know the exact dates when Joseph Smith was initiated, passed and raised to the Sublime Degree of Master Mason. He never went on to participate in anything else beyond that. Besides, in fact, there was no Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite in Illinois until the year 1846. That was four years too late. The proof texts you have in mind actually have at their root mistranslation and misunderstanding, as well as being taken from their historical and cultural contexts. Several times the Bible says that people saw or will see God (Moses, 70 of the elders of Israel, Isaiah, Stephen, angels of little children, those who are pure in heart, and those who will dwell in the city of New Jerusalem). And that passage in Isaiah that you have in mind comes from a section of Isaiah that has been rewritten so many times by scribes, and interpolated, that many scholars have come to believe it was written by a different author, and that the Book of Isaiah was written by two or more authors! Freemasons didn't establish the "Mormon" religion. It was established by non-Masons before many members of said Church later became Masons. Joseph Smith was the one directly involved in and leading the organization of the Church. That is historical fact.

[@davidleecrites]

@@OmegaMan28 Wow, thanks for the laugh. I mean, this HAD to be satire and humor, because nobody with a clue would have said most of that thinking they were being honest.

[@legacyweddingentertainment5079]

I was Mormon for 20 years. I am no longer. I found the true biblical Jesus. I realized there was NOTHING I could do to earn my way to heaven. It is his grace through faith that I am saved. I thank the Lord everyday that he grabbed my hand and showed me the way. To all my Mormon friends, you are so close to the truth!

[@trevor7844]

Brad Wilcox his grace is sufficient speeches.byu.edu/talks/brad-wilcox/his-grace-is-sufficient/ I love this talk, it helped me to better understand our relationship with Christ. As a member of the church of Jesus Christian of latter day Saints, I agree with you that we can not earn heaven. (As Brad puts it, we are not earning heaven, we are learning heaven). Hope you take the time to read this and let me know what you think! 😀

[@periseiupeli5517]

Praise God!

[@icecreamladydriver1606]

Legacy, the Bible also tells us that faith without works is dead. We need faith but if we don't do our part then, well, I guess we earn what we get.

[@polioepidemic8746]

Yesssss!Watch For False Prophets

[@Song-Girl-Still-Singing]

@@icecreamladydriver1606 you show your faith by your works. Works aren't what saves you. It is not a system of good deeds being counted to see if you did enough to save yourself.

[@felipekennedy3135]

jesus is THE WAY, THE TRUTH, and THE LIFE. and the way is NARROW and HARD their are FEW that finds it.

[@adamjohnsonstudio7910]

You are saying this in response to freemasonry's universalism?

[@zanelegeire8683]

Felipe Kennedy: To say nothing of those gol'darned gopher holes. Dang varmits takin' up space on the straight n' narrow...

[@Hallowed_Ground]

@@zanelegeire8683 what haha

[@nancykindt6487]

And Mormonism is NOT the narrow path!

[@carsonrush3352]

@@nancykindt6487, I testify that I have felt the Holy Ghost bear witness that the Book of Mormon is holy scripture and that Joseph Smith is a prophet of God. If someone reads the book and asks God, He'll let them know too.

[@YC1987PE]

I’m surprised the church is being so transparent. Asking these questions was looked down upon in the past.

[@droundyCubby]

I have been a member all of my life (67 years) and I am an inquisitive person from my youth. When I was a teenager I wondered about this very thing. There was a book out called something like, Freemasonry and the LDS Church. It was readily available, and I read it. Obviously it did not shake my faith. I think many people in the church were afraid to explore these things, but the information was available.

[@Coalition4NewerVision]

Debrah Roundy did you explore gematria? The mathematical code the masons use? Look into it to find out how the false Jews mentioned in revelation operate. Gematria effect news for truth

[@notagain1952]

They are not condemned but this is not God's method but rather that of men. Freemasonry members are Gnostics and worship who they call the creator of the universe and it is not revealed until the 33rd degree that this is Lucifer. Since they are obligated to follow the orders of their worshipful masters, the pyramid structure is headed by Lucifer and so all Freemasons are Luciferians by default. They use human sacrifice to control all of mankind. It originates in the apostate church which is Babylon from the Book of Revelation. They use Freemasonry to control all pulpits that I have witnessed, openly having to display the hidden hand, the single finger in the air, the OK sign or the pyramid when they bring their hands together. Another common symbol is the use of black and white color combinations or orange which stands for 33rd degree. Scripture says that the wink of the eye is used to denote evil. Their signs and symbols are to send messages to one another. It alludes to hidden or secret knowledge which is the basis for Freemasonry. You should also be aware of the Kundalini Spirit which is a the serpent spirit. It is common to use words and spoken messages with hidden meanings shared only with those in the know. They like especially to spell words in reverse. None of this is has anything to do with Christianity. It is Satanic witchcraft trying to plant ideas trying to accomplish mind control with subliminal messages. They control FEMA which is the hidden government. All should repent from this system that forms the beast.

[@BOON70]

@@notagain1952 LOL do you have any reputable source to back up that claim...

[@BOON70]

@@notagain1952 something the voices in your head probably didn't tell you is the design of the old Christian chapels with all the symbols were designed by free masons if free masons are of the devil so is Christianity...

[@jessicacampbell3263]

I was just talking to a friend wishing that the church would discuss this topic, and here it is!!! Thank you!! I can't wait to share this with her.

[@churchofjesuschrist]

Hi Jessica, thanks for your comment. This is an introductory video on the topic; we encourage you and others to learn more about this topic, both from Church resources and other accurate and reliable sources. See the Church's in-depth essay on Masonry here: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/masonry?lang=eng

[@mikaelarkanghel5094]

@@churchofjesuschrist It's founders and the spirit guiding them called themselves "Free Masons" Because they wanted to build their own temple.. A temple that is not built on the stone God has set aside, for they have slain His Son thinking to gain His inheritance.. But God with His mighty and victorious right hand upholds His Beloved Son His Word. Jesus Christ said to them, "Have you never read in the scriptures: 'The very stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner; this was the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes' Therefore i tell you, the Kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a nation producing the fruits of it."

[@wesleynunez3825]

@@mikaelarkanghel5094 Yes, Freemasonary is Satanism. Preach the truth!

[@00Fisher00]

@@wesleynunez3825 Why do you say that? What do you actually know about it?

[@luisa1356]

Please do some actual research, Don't believe this false information

[@awakeoutofsleep564]

The Devil is a liar

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

Thankfully, videos like this one help to dispel the devil's lies.

[@BOON70]

@@BrandonCole_edohi I don't know if you know this but I think you will find it interesting. There is a church I believe its Italy that has art up on the ceilings and it very much looks like what goes on in the Temple. As you study about Free Masons you find that they were an organization that would do special rituals in Catholic and Christian chapels. As time went on as with all the doctrine of Christ it got corrupted. Also there is history books written by Christians dating around 300 AD and they talk about Temple clothing. You also find that the Masons did design for all the old chapels for the Catholics and Christians. It wasn't till around 1351 when Pope Leo said they were of the devil they become much like they are now. They went into hiding because after that it was off with your head or a burning to the stake. So Masons continued on as a secret organization much like it is today. This is also why when Josephs version of the temple rituals is of God first Joseph revealed the temple endowment before he became a Mason, second the differences are many sure it has similarities to Masonry and you now know why.

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

@@BOON70 Regarding the ancient sources which you've referenced, correlation does not equate to causation. Stone Mason guilds were contracted to build; it wasn't until gothic architecture started going out-of-style that they became speculative Masons. Joseph did adopt the Masonic teaching model (theatrical presentation, mnemonic devices, illustrative symbols, etc.) and adapt it to teach the Church's already-existing doctrine. However, the subject matter, context, and purposes of the Church's temple endowment ceremony wholly differ from those of the degree ceremonies of Freemasonry.

[@him2496]

Great and truthful comment

[@jhansenhlebica6080]

Well that's cryptic.

[@karieberry1070]

The only One who can “make us better men” is Jesus Christ - our Only Master. Worship God only .

[@AngelOrtiz-jf4xq]

I'm not going to need a secret hand shake to get into heaven.

[@ammo9599]

That's true, essentially everyone gets to heaven regardless.

[@kasonkeller6519]

I just want a hug. ❤️

[@candelariogamboa]

Simple, isn't it?!

[@stephanienewman-kirby7013]

What if you do

[@josephkennaley6845]

nobody said you did

[@numbersj1667]

I was an LDS for 30 years, my dad was a Mason. I made the connection early because I knew a little about Masonry. I had never heard anyone in the church make the connection. It was definitely confirmed when I toured Nauvoo and there was a Masonic Lodge in the downtown section. Not a believer that signs used in the Temple and Masonry were separate! I believe there are too many coincidences to be a coincidence!!!

[@00Fisher00]

Did you watch the video? No one is suggesting that it's a coincidence.

[@latter-daysaintbatman2679]

Lol just like all those other misconceptions, people are drawn in by the lies towards our church.

[@bradensorensen966]

@@latter-daysaintbatman2679 Your church is made up of nothing but lies.

[@d.charlespyle]

Well, they aren't exactly the same. In fact, there are signs in the LDS temple ceremony that have no counterpart in Freemasonry. Of course, if a temple patron gave the tokens wrong, the first two would be identical to those in a Lodge. But if given correctly they are not even the same. The other two are not identical or even close to anything in Masonic rituals. Sad thing about the attempts at drawing parallels is that text has to be sifted around and taken drastically out of context to make the parallels look closer. Worse, a good amount of such material is taken out of a book published in 1860, and that is too late to be of use. Even worse, this latter material was part of two Rites to which Joseph Smith never belonged.

[@00Fisher00]

@@homelesscrazyman I have found the Church of Jesus Christ to be the greatest source of truth. I suggest going to God in prayer about it.

[@marnierose7816]

Jesus said never to make secret oaths or covenants, I have loved many LDS members and good people can be found in any church or belief system but can't be saved by a church founded on darkness, Charles tas Russell founder of the Jehovahs witnesses was also a 33°Freemason, all false churches have one thing in common...Freemasonry

[@johnesteban1626]

Yeah very true most big churches and religions are filled with masonry world wide

[@00Fisher00]

Do you love members of the Church of Jesus Christ enough to ask them about their beliefs so that you can really understand? That's what I would recommend, if you truly claim to love others.

[@d.charlespyle]

Nope. Charles Taze Russell was not a Freemason, much less of the 33°. Neither was Joseph Smith coroneted an IGH. And I would know. If they were, I'd find their names in the lists. And I don't find their names in the lists. That said, Joseph Smith was a Mason. He was raised to the Sublime Degree of Master Mason (that's 3°, not 33°). But that didn't happen until 1842, 12 years after the Church was first organized in 1830. You've got to watch those time lines and historical chronologies. But the early Church had a "hidden wisdom," which they communicated "in a mystery" to "the perfect" (1 Corinthians 2:1-10). This was different from the basic teachings.

[@prayunceasingly2029]

@@00Fisher00 Yeah I asked the LDS missionaries if their God was once a man and they lied and said no. I also asked if "as God is man can become" and they denied that too. Yet it's clearly outlined as a teaching in the LDS church website. I told the missionaries this and they admitted I was right and that they had knowingly misinformed me.

[@00Fisher00]

@@prayunceasingly2029 What is your purpose? Building faith, or faultfinding? I will inform you that all members of the Church of Jesus Christ and all prophets are imperfect human beings. If you're looking to condemn people for faults, you will always be able to do so, but it's a terribly shortsighted approach and directly opposed to what Christ taught. Missionaries are not required to know everything; what they are to do is preach the basic truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ and testify with the power of the Holy Ghost so that people can know of the truth and pursue greater faith and knowledge for themselves. If you don't want to seek the Holy Ghost, then that's up to you, but I'm sorry you weren't able to appreciate what those representatives of God's Church had for you.

[@stratocasterbeast]

Oh now they’re openly talking about it! They had no choice!

[@00Fisher00]

It's simple: education is a good thing, and with modern technology the Church can make information available.

[@stratocasterbeast]

@@00Fisher00 I agree transparency is a good thing!

[@00Fisher00]

@@stratocasterbeast I agree. You might be surprised at the effort that people in the Church make to publish information at no cost to anyone outside the organization. The depth and organization of information on ChurchOfJesusChrist.org is impressive.

[@bazaarm.b.c]

@@00Fisher00 how about a financial statement showing how the money is spent at the LDS church? Im still looking dor one

[@d.charlespyle]

They've actually been talking about it since at least the 1930s. One leader of the Church, by the name of Ivins, even published a book on the subject.

[@munmoon3926]

O yeah they did not deny he was a mason. One thing he should have discuss, Masonry banned Mormons for many years from becoming members of the craft because of Joseph Smith

[@BigShaneGillis]

Mun Moon 4:07 well either you are lying or the video is...

[@traczebabe]

Mun Moon Why does that need to be discussed? People pay too much attention to Joseph Smith the man instead of his works. The gospel itself is divine, men are mortal. Trying to dissect everything about a mortal man did or didn’t do in his life is temporal. It’s not as important as the divine. Joseph Smith lived so long ago and he was lied about so much. Plus nobody alive today knew him. His own writings are available and there are some of his posterity with journals. But it would be like saying when someone writes a book we should get to know everything about them, their whole life should be on show. That isn’t what’s important. What they wrote in their book is. I hope I’m not coming off as rude. It’s just too easy to get caught up in Joseph Smith himself, which you would never still really know him. Dissect the gospel of Jesus Christ and test it. That’s what important, the divine.

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints were banned from being Masons under the jurisdiction of the Grand Lodge of Utah for most of the 20th century; Joseph Smith was not cited as the reason for this ban. There was no such ban against members of the Church under any other grand lodge's jurisdiction. The Grand Lodge of Utah saw the error of its ways in the 1980s and therefore lifted the ban.

[@danielvega442]

@@traczebabe what people need to do is test his revelations and his fruits thats how you know hes a false prophet?

[@jonstensrud1603]

Masonry has never banned Mormons nor any monotheistic believers from joining.

[@_kelvyn.10_]

Heb. 12:2a, “Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith” . Our full focus should be on Christ alone and do away with all this sugarcoated lies and deceits. 🙏🏽 May God have upon us all 🙏🏽

[@d.charlespyle]

Christ alone? But what of the Father? Do we just ignore the Father? I think not. I don't even think Christ would have something like that in mind.

[@tommysanointing]

I think you're being deceived here, saints. Darkness and light don't mix, and woe to them that call good bad, and bad good.

[@latter-daysaintbatman2679]

It is you who mixed it up liar. Your argument is invalid and you have been deceived by the devil.

[@d.charlespyle]

Inapplicable to the situation.

[@RichLunaMusic]

You can't just pray for apotheosis either. It takes work and enlightenment, and you can't attain enlightenment within those walls.

[@thepalmofdeborah2110]

We are truly living in the last days . God have mercy 🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@daveconrad6562]

Elaborate?

[@The_Other_Ghost]

Have been for the last TWO THOUSAND YEARS!!!

[@childofgrace2087]

@@The_Other_Ghost 2k years is like 1 day to God. But who's to say when your life will expire as God said no day is promised to anyone. So hopefully your life is in line with God.

[@00Fisher00]

@Awaken To Life "An occultic cult"? Can you explain that and qualify it in any way, using verifiable sources? It sounds like you have no idea.

[@davetruuder5754]

Jay Britton Fisher chill

[@sharkman8405]

Aw Lucifer, I see you have fooled so many. You are a liar and a thief and the father of it. Lord Jesus Christ, please protect your children from all evil and save us from temptation. Help us to always know the difference between good and evil. Please do not let us be fooled. Please keep us united in Your Spirit through hope, faith and love. Amen.

[@serenitysoundscapes-2024]

A few years ago I toured a Masonic temple. As a Latter-day Saint, it really freaked me out how similar the two temples were and the ceremonies. (Or so i thought.) it caused me to doubt my faith. Instead I should’ve doubted my doubts. I went inactive for a while after that. A few months later one of the missionaries who initially taught me when I was investigating the church happened to reach out to me. Not only did he help me come back to church, he helped me understand my doubts, my faith crisis, my questions were normal to ask and that my concerns and struggles were going to be eliminated through the atonement. That man is now my husband, and I’ve never had a stronger testimony!

[@churchofjesuschrist]

Thanks for sharing your testimony and experience, Sara.

[@Sam-vk8xd]

That is great stuff.

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

What Masonic ceremony did you see? None of the ones in which I've officiated resemble the Church's temple endowment ceremony at all in regard to subject matter, context, or purpose.

[@cerveza2297]

LDS member, Senator Mitt Romney is a great statesman.

[@serenitysoundscapes-2024]

Brit B I do believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and I do read the Bible. Thanks!

[@bonojennett]

1:42 Joseph actually sitting down and writing down his revelations? We already know that's a huge misrepresentation!

[@00Fisher00]

Why would you say that?

[@blacksabbathmatters]

Except that they were recorded in this way.

[@d.charlespyle]

Sometimes, yes, he did write his own. He had a hard time doing it, too. That's why he usually used scribes.

[@thenowchurch6419]

It is not true to say that Joseph learned the divine truths of the Endowment before his encounter with Freemasonry. It is true that it was before he became a mason himself, but having a father who was a Master Mason and brother who was a mason, that he was close to, means he knew a thing or two about Freemasonry, long before he joined.

[@flickerbick1]

thenowchurch where did you read that?

[@veritasinvicta8128]

They are very similar, down to the "Magic underwear" (Holy Garments).

[@MTEmployment]

In very general terms only, but Masonic rituals were NOT SHARED outside of Masonic temples. Those rites are entered into with strict promises to not share them to outside groups. In fact, the anti-mason movement was ignited in 1826 when William Morgan, a bricklayer in western New York "disappeared" after he "supposedly had broken his vow of secrecy as a Freemason by preparing a book revealing the organization’s secrets. When no trace of Morgan could be discovered, rumors of his murder at the hands of Masons swept through New York and then into New England and the Mid-Atlantic states."

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

Given that: - Joseph Smith, Sr, and Hyrum Smith were known to be honest men of integrity - the subject matter, context, and purposes of the Church's temple endowment ceremony wholly differ from those of the degree ceremonies of Freemasonry, the hypothesis that they would have shared the secrets of Freemasonry with Joseph is both unlikely and irrelevant to the topic of the Church's temple endowment ceremony.

[@messianic_scam]

go away

[@anthonyb5104]

Only a true relationship with Jesus can save you from eternal damnation, no matter what good thing anyone does. There’s too much sin in freemasonry you can’t be a Freemason and a follower of the Lord at the same time. The Bible is the word of God

[@teecee1567]

@Anthony B Please be specific. What sin do Freemasons commit?

[@gbd-oq1rz]

Being a secret society instead of speaking the truths they do.

[@_kelvyn.10_]

John 14:6, “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me” . John 10:1, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber” . Heb. 12:2a, Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith”

[@abdoreal6376]

If you want know more truth about that you must read chapter 5 from quran

[@jacktheplummer3857]

@@abdoreal6376 “your truth” my friend. The false prophet Muhammad is a great example of what Jesus warned us about. But once again that is ‘my truth’

[@sidewardslife2894]

@@abdoreal6376 Ya, chapter 5 is a good one!! Especially verse 68 that says "unless you're foundation is based on the bible, uou have nothing to stamd on"

[@sunnycoastQLD]

Truth is truth and will be found in many faiths. Look to the Old Testament (the tabernacle then Solomon’s temple) for the clothing, ceremony and some covenants, and to the New Testament for others.

[@julieanderson4156]

Yes. I like Exodus 28 and 29 and Levitucus 8. Wonderful truths that started with Adam and parts can be found in many religions as time goes on. And through revelation, when the time was right, restored fully.

[@alexchavez3244]

Julie Anderson who was Adams first wife Lilith eve wasn’t his first learn about masonry in lds is a racist religion just like most Christianity that’s why minorities are slaves to capitalism of white supremacy of colonialism right go ask a Native American how he feels about white Jesus he’ll tell you When you die his ancestors are waiting for you guys.

[@jonstensrud1603]

@@alexchavez3244 care to talk your nonsense to an actual mason with knowledge? Doubt it.

[@FarmersAreCool]

@@alexchavez3244 The system is pretty well total communism now. Where's all the capitalism at ?

[@johnharvey4448]

@@alexchavez3244 A native American ? How about reading the record of an ancient civilisation written and sealed up by an ancient American titled ; The Book of Mormon - Another Testament of Jesus Christ.

[@jamesclark5310]

“Whoever can be trusted with very little can also be trusted with much, and whoever is dishonest with very little will also be dishonest with much” (Luke 16:10 NIV). #verseoftheday

[@knelson3326]

I find it interesting that of Joseph’s apostate critics who knew both masonry and the temple endowment, none claimed Joseph stole the endowment from masonry.

[@ephraimsbeard8508]

Yeah...they just killed him instead

[@theresakennedy7339]

Didn't he steal it from Egypt?

[@vendingdudes]

Excellent point, but to be fair to them they were focusing on a variety of other angles to destroy him. I guess it worked.

[@samuelfisher6743]

@@theresakennedy7339 While I'm not an expert on the subject, I am a member of the church of Jesus Christ and I've seen a lot of theories about where he could have received it. I've heard a lot of theories like Free Masons, Jewish (temple) rites, egyptian temple ceremonies, the primitive christian church etc. etc. I have also been amazed to find temple patterns in certain buddhist/hindu ceremonies, dervish ceremonies, ancient american artifacts/writings, and even some catholic writings and presentations. I personally believe that God has taught these things at various and sundry times to His church and principles of them have been preserved in a variety of ways through many cultures. I believe that God revealed these things to Joseph Smith in the same manner as in times past as part of the fullness of the restoration of the gospel in our time.

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

@@ephraimsbeard8508 Nine Masons were alleged to have participated in Joseph's martyrdom, but they were never proven to have done so. An alleged nine Masons out of a mob of 200+ people is not logically indicative of negative sentiment from the Grand Lodge of Illinois or the Grand Lodge of Missouri.

[@dnessablack9007]

These are some of the reasons I left the LDS church.

[@GospodinJean]

Albert Pike, one of the greatest authors of freemasonry wrote: Lucifer, the Light-Bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darkness! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!iv The devil is the personification of Atheism or Idolatry. For the Initiates, this is not a Person, but a Force, created for good, but which may serve for evil. It is the instrument of Liberty or Free Will. They represent this Force, which presides over the physical generation, under the mythological and horned form of the God Pan; thence came the he-goat of the Sabbat, brother of the Ancient Serpent, and the Light-bearer or Phosphor, of which the poets have made the false Lucifer of the legend.v The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is Yahweh (GOD) reversed; for Satan is not a black god, but a negation of God...the Kabala imagined Him to be a "most occult light."vi

[@00Fisher00]

You left the Church because Joseph Smith joined the Freemasons? Why? Did you not pray to God to ask him for a witness of the truth of the Book of Mormon and the Church itself? Also, did you not know that many great figures in history, including Founding Fathers of the U.S. including George Washington, were also Freemasons? What exactly is your concern?

[@JimS47]

I wasted 20 years listening to the churches lies. I am so happy to be free from it.

[@ironeagle9850]

smokewagon47 I feel more convinced than ever that the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is true Christianity.

[@kathbaker4412]

I'm the opposite of you. I'm glad I only spent a couple of years as a rainbow girl ... Part of the masons... But I also converted about that time and grow more appreciative of the church still this half a century later. More light and understanding. More peace and joy. More freedom from vices and common pitfalls. Seeing childhood friends and their lives of struggles make me more repentant and grateful. So glad to have genealogy much easier and indexing-away my life! Praying for all to hear and see truth and inspiration from on high...

[@filipohopoi8305]

Wow Awesome information now I will definitely be leaving the Mormon church.

[@mahaliafarquharson7548]

I did from I was 16 it's a huge pity our mother got us baptized there in our Innocence I beg the eternal father of life and light to forgive me and my brothers and parents for this act amen

[@00Fisher00]

Why would you want to leave the Church of Jesus Christ?

[@TwoSopranos]

Church plus secret society, not good.

[@Arklowdrummers]

What evidence do you have to suggest freemasonry is a secret society ?

[@00Fisher00]

@Latisha Queen It's odd for you to tell someone you don't know that their father is the devil. I recommend that you not make assumptions about people, especially those who are merely asking questions.

[@seriouslymason]

@@00Fisher00 exactly what I’m saying. People are out of their mind

[@angelWWG1WGA]

It’s not a secret society, but a society of secrets...

[@messianic_scam]

church been always around with secret societies

[@Biblestudyhub690]

God have mercy on our blindness and naivity,that we actually think that the church of God can be align to darkness.

[@footsoldier1188]

FOOL. Mormon church is not of God

[@Theroyalprohetofthewhitecloud]

@@footsoldier1188 you can believe that all you want but when we die we’ll see what god says to you if you ask him 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@willsmith8773]

Which ones aligned with darkness?

[@LHJlives]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is God’s kingdom on the earth, the work has progressed and accelerated despite opposition at every turn and severe persecution in its early days. It will continue to roll forth unhindered by the works of man or random KZbin comments.

[@berinatv5446]

To think that masonry is darkness is either intellectual dishonesty or just intellectual deficiency

[@jdrobinson4865]

Brigham Young called the temple ceremony “celestial masonry.”

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

Brigham was entitled to his opinion; however, this comment was never canonized into the doctrines of the Church. Prophets are not considered omniscient or infallible in the Church and are therefore allowed to have incorrect opinions. Had his comment been canonized, then it would carry the weight of authority in the doctrines of the Church.

[@Alexandriafrancescakiel]

Brandon Cole beautifully stated.

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

@@Alexandriafrancescakiel Thank you. 🙂

[@johnharvey4448]

I reason masonry refers to building. So, if interpreted as ''celestial building''. That seems ok, even virtuous.

[@tyd3407]

John Harvey to what extent of Christ and the apostles though

[@tommyanderson4992]

Don’t be deceived. This is not biblical.

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

Neither is Costco, your local public library, or your local newspaper. Just because Freemasonry isn't biblical does not mean that it's evil or unworthy of participation for faithful, active Christians.

[@MrChipathenIsMyDoggo]

I love that this topic is being touched on. 🙏🏻♥️

[@victorm.cisneros1381]

As a member of the church and as a mason myself I love they are being more open about this topic.

[@danielrutigliano7938]

Read Ezekiel 8:16. Masons have their alters face toward the east because the god they worship is themselves symbolic of the sun and not the SON. Jesus said in secret I have told you nothing. God keeps no secrets from us. Yet in the Masonic lodge, revealing the secrets of Masonry is punishable by death. Why? Because the true worship of the craft isn't revealed to the low level Masons who enter into the Blue Lodges and obtain the first three degrees of initiation. Masonry is an abomination to God. So is the Mormon church established by a blasphemous, secret society.

[@TexasHollowEarth]

@@danielrutigliano7938 - Thanks for this.... It's like a blast of light in total darkness.

[@justindyczewski6640]

Would an open mason who is proud post a link of the oaths that are required at each level? Please help me.

[@Song-Girl-Still-Singing]

@@justindyczewski6640 you can look it up on KZbin. You can also look up a video on why Freemasonry is not compatible with Christianity.

[@coliostro1006]

Do your own research, folks. Follow all the footnotes. Check all the sources. Use your brains. Knowledge is a good thing. Everyone has an agenda, even the church.

[@Melchizedek777]

2 Esdras 6:9 “For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth.”

[@Cocoon68]

Love how hard the church tries to reconcile temple worship with Masonic rituals! Isn’t it amazing that just two weeks before Joseph Smith implemented these he became a master mason. Not revelation! Simply Joseph doing what he always did! Using the very things he had in his own life to make a religion.

[@00Fisher00]

Have you never sought revelation yourself? You should. Everyone should. It's important to have a relationship with God, and to receive truth from Him. As you do, you will find that sometimes God reveals things to you directly, but sometimes He helps us recognize truth that already exists in the world around us. The same was true for Joseph Smith.

[@gingerbrettman5665]

People are afraid of what they don't know or understand. This comments section is to be treated with doubt and skepticism as those of no knowledge of the Church or Freemasonry will speculate, theorize, and accuse the Church of things they know little or nothing about. The video presents what the Church does and knows about it.

[@alvamedley6735]

Be a decent human being. Help those in need wether you have a little or a lot. Follow the ten comandments and, accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior. It's not rocket science.

[@braider5204]

Nobody follows the 10 commandments. It's impossible. It's a test for us to reflect and know that we are sinners. So we continue to praise Jesus. It's a measuring stick. Nobody is without sin. And no one follows the 10 commandments to the letter. None

[@Hallowed_Ground]

@@braider5204 We are commanded to be perfect. It's a commandment not a suggestion. We're all hypocrites and sinners, no one is arguing that.

[@ethanhenderson496]

Is not the First and Great commandment to love God? And the Second to love thy neighbor as you love yourself? Yes, it’s hard to obey all the commandments at times. That why repentance is so critical. Another great commandment is Matthew 5:48 “Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.” I can tell you myself, this is probably the hardest commandment to keep. How great is it then that our Father in heaven in merciful! Nobody said that we’re earning heaven. If that was the case nobody would make it. It’s God’s mercy and grace, it’s Christ’s sacrifice and love that saves us. Life is more than just being a decent person and praising Jesus. It’s about aligning your will with the Fathers, keeping his commandments, serving others. It’s about becoming like our savior, and Heavenly Father. If this is not the case then why does God care? Why create this marvelous world, our bodies, our spirits, only to make a few happy forever? Heaven is so much more than joy, it’s so much more than just peace and goodness. It’s inheriting everything the Father has through Jesus Christ. “Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.”

[@jaredolson7543]

So true. The decision is simple and clear. It is either right or wrong, or, true or false.

[@valthiriansunstrider2540]

@@braider5204 It's not a measuring stick, it's divine law that we are condemned for disobeying. That's why Jesus Christ had to die.

[@vinifunaki5305]

GOD IS GOOD ALWAYS!! I LUV FREEMASONRY AND I LUV MY RELIGION AND PROUD TO BE A MEMBER OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS..... 👍❤️😘MALO AUPITO (THANK U MUCH)

[@Lyzash21]

Read Matthew 14:6 Jesus Christ said” I am the way, truth and Life, no one comes to the Father except through Me) Hell is real and heaven is real so I pray that you read the Bible like KJV and you really get to know the God of the Bible who loved us so much that He gave His only begotten son to die for us and save us from our sin so that we do not perish but have everlasting life in Him not religion.( John 3:15-16) God bless you

[@lowdethan6709]

Freemasonry goes against the LDS religion. Their god is referred to as "jahbulon" freemasonry is its own religion so I don't understand why you're allowed to be a different religions and also Mormon. That would contradict the commandments that you shall not worship false idols or have no other god before me

[@churchofjesuschrist]

Hi @Lowd Ethan. Freemasonry is a fraternal organization. In addition to participating in rituals where they commit to be loyal and trustworthy, they also participate in community-building activities and make charitable contributions to various causes. This video is an introductory video on the topic; we encourage you and others to learn more about this topic, both from Church resources and other accurate and reliable sources. See the Church's in-depth essay on Masonry here: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/masonry?lang=eng

[@lowdethan6709]

@@churchofjesuschrist I have a question church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints. I'm a member but I have a hard time finding if this is doctrine. Do we believe that Jesus and the holy ghost are gods as Heavenly father is? And also do we believe God can't create something from nothing, such as all of his children?

[@churchofjesuschrist]

Hi @Lowd Ethan, thanks for your questions. We're glad you're here! To learn more about the Godhead, see the link below: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/godhead?lang=eng To learn more about our beliefs surrounding the creation, see www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/creation?lang=eng.

[@Lglandorf6]

This seems to be glossing over the overwhelming similarities of the Masonic rituals to the endowment ceremonies, which are nowhere to be found in the Bible. How can anyone think that Heavenly Father would, all of a sudden in Joseph Smith's day, require Masonic clothing, Masonic terminology, Masonic handshakes and grips, in order to be with Him? Would He test their memory in order to show "worthiness"? How many members of the church would stop their tithing if it wasn't a requirement to go to the temple? It seems that this ceremony is a convenient way to get money from members.

[@lowdethan6709]

Exactly! Not to mention it's a whole other religion. So why allow Mormons to be part of a different religions? Doesn't that go against and violate the commandments of the bible of no false idols or other gods before him?

[@cpt.walker6273]

I have heard others talk about tithing this way before. My thought is this. If it was considered "robbery" in the New Testament (Malachi3:8) to NOT pay your tithing, then one could pay tithing so as to not rob God. Also, one could pay tithing to receive the blessings mentioned in verse 10. Do I pay tithing to enter into the temple? No. I pay tithing to build up the kingdom of God, receive blessings, and to be obedient to God's commandments. On the other subject. God uses simple things to help us follow and return to Him. As an example, in order to live, after being bitten by "fiery serpents", one only had to look at a brass serpent Moses made on a pole to survive the bite. Why? I think it was so the people could show faith in God. Besides, who's to say that Satan did not copy ancient temple rituals and distort them into Masonic rituals. I mean we know that anciently baptisms for the dead where preformed. (1 Corinthians 15:29) And lastly. God does not test worthiness thru memory. You are mistaken in that concept.

[@churchofjesuschrist]

@Liisa Glandorf and @lowd ethan, thanks for your comments and for the opportunity to clarify our beliefs and practices. This is an introductory video on the topic of freemasonry; to learn more, see the Church's in-depth essay on the topic here: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/masonry?lang=eng

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

Both as a temple-endowed member of the Church and as a Freemason, I wholly disagree with the premise of your comment here. The similarities between the Church's temple endowment ceremony and the degree ceremonies of Freemasonry are both few and superficial. Joseph adopted the Masonic teaching model (theatrical presentation, mnemonic devices, illustrative symbols, etc) and adapted it to teach the Church's already-existing doctrines in its temple endowment ceremony. The subject matter, context, and purposes of the Church's temple endowment ceremony wholly differ from those of the degree ceremonies of Freemasonry. Regarding the Law of Tithing, it is a lesser law which we are currently required to obey; this is because the membership was not found to be ready for the Law of Consecration. I'm sure that there were some who said the same about tithing in Abraham's day and many who said the same about giving up all possessions in Christ's day as what you've said here. However, tithing donations today are used to build and maintain our buildings as well as to keep the Church self-sufficient.

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

@@lowdethan6709 Freemasonry does not qualify as a religion.

[@bessiebraveheart]

Hello from England, as a member and priesthood holders of 35 yrs. The fledgling Church needed help from whatever quarters it could get it. The Lord works in mysterious ways. I love our Saviours restored Gospel.

[@Pound_Shift]

“It is finished” Jesus Christ . The gospel did not need restoration or the priesthood, The reason he came here was to atone for the sins of the world ending the need for animal sacrifice and establish his church . The Bible is very clear on this but your article of faith says that you believe the Bible as far as it has been translated correctly , That is convenient, so anything that is anti Mormon is a mistranslation and cherry pick the verses that support it .

[@00Fisher00]

@@Pound_Shift When Jesus Christ said, "It is finished," He was referring to his Atonement, and not the total work of God, which is evident from the fact that He returned after His resurrection and charged His disciples with carrying on His work in His Church. If you come to know the Church of Jesus Christ in our day, you will see how God continues His work through it. If you trust the words of the Bible, then you will understand the need for the priesthood: "And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron." (Hebrews 5:4) If you've ever studied the Bible much, then you'll appreciate the need for accurate translation.

[@d.charlespyle]

@@Pound_Shift Actually, Jesus implied that the visible Church would die. That is the underlying thought regarding the gates of Hades not prevailing against the Church. The only way to face those gates is from within, and the only way to get through them to do that is in death. The key, however, was that the Church was not to stay dead. The latter is what is implied by "shall not prevail against it." The idea of the apostasy and restoration fits perfectly within the underlying meaning of what Christ promised.

[@ph1lipsyvanen914]

That’s one of many reasons I left the church! Thank you Jesus for revealing the truth for me!

[@churchofjesuschrist]

Hi there, Freemasonry is a fraternal organization. In addition to participating in rituals where they commit to be loyal and trustworthy, they also participate in community-building activities and make charitable contributions to various causes. This is an introductory video on the topic; we encourage you and others to learn more about this topic, both from Church resources and other accurate and reliable sources. See the Church's in-depth essay on Masonry here: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/masonry?lang=eng

[@jeremysyrenne5294]

Jesus Christ says that he was the temple, he made it clear that we are all living temples, so there's absolutely no need for "divine inspired" corruptions to accomplish the entering-in of God's presence, because everything points to Christ.

[@00Fisher00]

Anything divinely inspired comes to us uncorrupted originally. Temple buildings indeed do point to Christ in all things.

[@jeremysyrenne5294]

Jesus Christ says that He is the true, and new temple. His life on earth allows us to "enter into Him". To abide in him. "God incarnate" is synonymous with "Temple" as Christ in human form solves the problem of the temple's limitations. Before Christ, humans needed a temple building so they could walk into the divine- or heavenly presence. Christ walking on the earth was the same heavenly presence of the temple- but in a human body. Since Christ ascended into heaven, he gave us the Holy Spirit to enter in us so that we can always be living filled with that divine temple presence wherever we go- so long as we turn to Christ alone as our only divine source and stay repentant. If we want, we can still worship in our temple buildings and try and get divine presence to dwell in them but, it becomes impractical and excessive- if all that work can be done because of what Christ already is for us- and in us. "Incarnation + Holy Spirit in us" > "Temple"

[@00Fisher00]

@@jeremysyrenne5294 I've worshipped and served in modern temples, and I see at least part of why God desires for us to do so. I'd encourage you to learn more about it.

[@pookiehoney]

As Latter Day Saints we are taught to seek after good and praiseworthy things. If the Freemasons are about trying to be a better person and citizen in your community I can see why so many LDS people gravitated toward them.

[@danielrutigliano7938]

If the fraternal orders of Freemasonry are such a benevolent society then why do they work in secret? Why are the lodges to this day segregated between male and female, between blacks and whites? Jesus said, In secret, I have told you nothing. Our Lord kept no secrets from those who followed Him. Yet, initiates in the Masonic Lodge are threatened with death if they reveal the secrets of Masonry. Sounds like something I would really want to join. Please read the Bible. Please read Ezekiel 8:16 and ask yourself whose alters face toward the east and why. And not the one in the Mormon church, but a KJV or ESV Bible. Take care.

[@ephraimsbeard8508]

You both are dead on, I was a Mason and Rosicrucian...both Satan worship the God of this world at the top levels. Mormons should have nothing to do with Freemasonry but unfortunately it is interwoven throughout its history including Brigham Young being a Mason and many others.

[@danielrutigliano7938]

@@Hpencer yes, exactly. The same thing with The Catholic Church and Jehovahs Witnesses.

[@kosmicwizard]

@@ephraimsbeard8508 Please explain to me if AMORC is what you define as Rosicrucian? And please explain in great detail, how any Rosicrucian body is Satanic? Thank you for your time and effort, understanding this is VERY important to me.

[@brazilianman92]

@@danielrutigliano7938 Why do nations keep secrets from each other? You think very naively. What's worth guarding isnt given so easily. Dont cast Pearls before swine.

[@ll27515]

As an active life long member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and as a Freemason of almost 12 years (Mastermason and a Past Master as well as a member of a concordant Masonic body), this video is very well done and does an excellent job of explaining the similarities and differences between the Church and Freemasonry. While there are some similarities, there are many differences.

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

As a fellow member of the Church and Freemason, I wholly agree!

[@ultrastar23]

I have a question, who is the bearer of the light you seek in freemasonry?

[@Sam-vk8xd]

Mauricio G. Have you asked God if The Book of Mormon is the word of god with all your heart, might mind and strength having a full intent to know truth? Questions are easy.

[@peterbrown8230]

@@ultrastar23 God, the Grand Architect of the universe.

[@franbatista9062]

If you really know what freemasonry is about, you can’t really be a Mason and follow Jesus Christ

[@ldsgrocket5166]

I believe that its also possible that Joseph Smith joined with one purpose being to fit in/gain relationships in Illinois after being persecuted and kicked out of Missouri.

[@kosmicwizard]

Does someone who is trying to fit in become a general in a legion and run for POTUS?

[@duke_of_destruction]

And bankrupting Kirkland Ohio

[@KlydetheGlyde]

I love the twists and turns of the early church. Always study the strongest points of each side of the argument. You’ll see the difference open up.

[@keyman1508]

I became a Master Mason to test my faith and explore the similarities with the LDS church I was baptized into. Joseph was made a Master Mason on site by an authoritive person in other words the Grand Master. I did the footwork and learned the signs, tokens, verbage and ritual. It took me three months to learn all the keys with my coach. I believe growing up in the church and excelling in Masonry has given me some of the best insight there is to offer. I am simply a dues paying member now and an inactive member of the LDS church. Members of the church speak badly about masonry and members of masonry speak badly about the church. I really don't trust either. Signs and tokens won't get you exalted into gods kingdom. Works and faith will. We all walk our own paths to further light and you don't need either organization to get there.

[@muziklvr7776]

" I really don't trust either." Smarter than the average bear.

[@d.charlespyle]

I take it you are in Utah? Still some bad blood between the two groups there, even after the reconciliation of 1984. it sometimes spills out to other states when members involved relocate.

[@mikaelarkanghel5094]

@@muziklvr7776 It's founders and the spirit guiding them called themselves "Free Masons" Because they wanted to build their own temple.. A temple that is not built on the stone God has set aside, for they have slain His Son thinking to gain His inheritance.. But God with His mighty and victorious right hand upholds His Beloved Son His Word. Jesus Christ said to them, "Have you never read in the scriptures: 'The very stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner; this was the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes' Therefore i tell you, the Kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a nation producing the fruits of it."

[@Izzycodm777]

Good read here 👌

[@robertmudrow3617]

Grace can only bridge the gap. The other work and faith is nice, good on that.

[@AdriVee]

Thank you for addressing this topic!

[@luistaque6424]

I know what I know , and not so much for the testimonies others have shared about the restored gospel , and the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. As clear as the sun shines , I have received an unwavering testimony by the power of the Holy Ghost that all the doctrines and principles in this church are true. I invite all to get on their knees and ask God in humily and real intent He shall make them known unto you .I canoot deny what I feel and I know it comes from God. Joseph Smith was a prophet of God , the book of Mormon is powerful witness of the divinity of the Savior , and His arms of love are wide open to receive you. In the name of Jesus Christ, amen.

[@churchofjesuschrist]

Thanks for sharing your faith and testimony, Luis!

[@EmileKleinhans]

Why does the doctrines contradict the Bible texts then?

[@00Fisher00]

@@EmileKleinhans True doctrine doesn't contradict scripture, though it does contradict incorrect interpretation of scripture. In case you're interested, the Church of Jesus Christ uses the King James Version of the Bible.

[@messianic_scam]

fake prophet

[@d.charlespyle]

@@EmileKleinhans Some problems are caused by mistranslations. Some problems are caused by faulty transmission of the biblical text. For instance, the Bible was made more monotheistic over the centuries. The original readings were less so. Here is one example out of thousands, that of Deuteronomy 32:43. Three different readings now are known. I'll put them into the order of oldest to latest. (I don't know whether you read Hebrew or not, so I'll put them into English for you.) 43 Rejoice, O ye heavens, with him, and let all ye gods worship him! Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people, and let all ye sons of God take refuge in him! For he will avenge the blood of his sons, and he will arise, and will render vengeance to his adversaries; and them which hate him will he recompense, and the LORD will cleanse his people’s land. 43 Rejoice, O ye heavens, with him, and let all ye gods worship him! For he will avenge the blood of his sons, and he will render vengeance to his adversaries; and them which hate him will he recompense, and the LORD will cleanse his people’s land. 43 Rejoice, O ye nations, with his people: for he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries, and will be merciful unto his land, and to his people. (Deuteronomy 32:43, KJV) See the differences? And there are a lot more where the above came from!

[@ven_one]

And to think the god of freemasonry is lucifer. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm........

[@00Fisher00]

Why do you suggest that?

[@Dannyboy0202]

@@00Fisher00 ask ex masons

[@00Fisher00]

@@Dannyboy0202 Like who? People I've spoken to who have been a part of Freemasonry say the opposite about their experiences with it. There are a number of Freemasons here who are sharing their experiences, and none of it has anything to do with worshipping Lucifer.

[@Slamb68]

As a Latter Day Saint and a Freemason, I was pleased to see this. It is the truth that I knew.

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

Same here, brother!

[@patc6146]

freemason is devil worship

[@CheeseyPie12]

Repent

[@Haloking1212]

I’ve always appreciated transparency keep it coming

[@KingOFMisFits]

It's not transparency when they are lying to you

[@ColmGibney]

Absolutely no mention that J.Smith married a 14 year old girl.

[@javierpardo2247]

Woah Nellie transparency because already too many people have left the church when they study a little the real history of the church lol!

[@Song-Girl-Still-Singing]

Except these are things they wouldn't talk about before...

[@3dfymyworld484]

@@ColmGibney Nor that he had any children with her XD

[@brunomacias6778]

This has been an issue between many members in Mexico city. It's good to know that this is at the hand of anyone who wants to know more about this topic and was worried about because don't know where to find the truth. Thanks so much

[@churchofjesuschrist]

@Bruno Macias, thanks for watching and for your comment. To learn more about freemasonry, see the in-depth Church History topic page here: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/masonry?lang=eng

[@d.charlespyle]

@@Youngoutsider972 More like there is a group of irregular Masons, unrecognized by legitimate Masonic bodies, who falsely claim to be Masons and do a great deal of evil. There also is a drug cartel who falsely style themselves Knights Templar. People live in fear because of them. I once had dealings with a Mexican family who freaked out when they saw my Masonic keyring. I had to explain that I did not belong to those false organizations they wrongly thought were Masons. They didn't know any better.

[@LoudmanSpeaks]

Some basic facts, but thoroughly sanitized.

[@00Fisher00]

Just kept simple for a short video.

[@wess8346]

Great video. As a member I love the transparency the Church of Jesus Christ is putting out now. I think it's very helpful to be upfront about things that may seem peculiar to others.

[@agomodern]

It's up front enough to keep people from doing more research. The good ol' United Nations "transparency" scam.

[@Trevor99999]

Yeah but the problem is they weren’t transparent about it for a very long time. They withheld this information until it came to light and they were forced to address it. There’s no excuse for it

[@ocdave4549]

If I am truly satisfied having Christ, the Master why would I need anything else?

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

For the same reasons that one might join the Boy Scouts, Toastmasters, the Sons/Daughters of the American Revolution, or even subscribe to a membership at the local public library.

[@srso4660]

I agree. You don't need religion to have a relationship with God

[@d.charlespyle]

@@srso4660 Consider the following verses of scripture: 23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;) 24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25 *Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is;* but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. 26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. (Hebrews 10:23-31, KJV)

[@blakegreen2196]

I'm very happy to not see anti masonic propaganda. Masonry is an amazing institution that doesn't conflict with religion and in fact promotes you to live a more Godly life. Lots of Christian churches are very anti masonic so I'm happy to see some churches being more understanding 👍🏻

[@tracywhited]

Blake Green it completely conflicts.

[@ewigerschuler3982]

I'm still undecided personally on the matter.

[@blakegreen2196]

@@tracywhited no... it doesn't lol but good try

[@blakegreen2196]

@@ewigerschuler3982 that's 100% okay. It's good to do the research and make your own decisions. I am a freemason and I have never seen anything that challenges my beliefs or makes me follow another secular belief. All rituals and stories are from the bible and of biblical characters. I can promise all of that :) but i know it's hard if you aren't a Mason and dont know what we are all about

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

@@tracywhited Religion does not conflict with Freemasonry, even if some religious adherents choose to.

[@rpnuku]

I am 74 years old now and was told by my father, when I was a young boy, another reason about this issue. When Solomon's Temple was built (957 BCE) those of his followers began using the Temple. However walls around the Temple were still being built. It was then that the "Masons" building the walls around Solomon's Temple observed the ordinances and that was how they created a version for themselves. Maybe someone could tell me - when was the Free Mason organisation originated? I found this in Wikipedia " The earliest known ritual places the first masonic lodge in the porchway of King Solomon's Temple"\

[@OutLawStargazer899]

Ok. So basically, masons up to a certain point were literally stone mason unions. these were called "operative masons" , they began to form lodges as a place to care for those injured on the job and to provide a community for these guys. at some point, no one quite knows when or why, they started accepting people who weren't actually stone masons, but curious intellectuals, ect. these became speculative masons. The Lodge of Edinburgh (Mary's Chapel) No. 1 seems to be the oldest that hasa direct line to operative masons

[@mikaelarkanghel5094]

Free Masons are a shield for the evil Purpose that is only revealed to those who 'qualify' to be a 33rd degree Free Mason member of the 'Supreme Council'.

[@mikaelarkanghel5094]

@@OutLawStargazer899 It's founders and the spirit guiding them called themselves "Free Masons" Because they wanted to build their own temple.. A temple that is not built on the stone God has set aside for they have slain His Son thinking to gain His inheritance.. But God with His mighty and victorious right hand upholds His Beloved Son His Word. Jesus Christ said to them, "Have you never read in the scriptures: 'The very stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner; this was the Lord's doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes' Therefore i tell you, the Kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a nation producing the fruits of it."

[@garyzimmer8061]

@@OutLawStargazer899 Knights of Malta?

[@00Fisher00]

@@mikaelarkanghel5094 Where do you get this "evil Purpose" stuff from?

[@seraph3761]

It is written three times in the Bible, “God does not dwell in temples made of men’s hands.” But “ye are a temple of God” and He dwells in you and visits from time to time. I will then ask thee a simple question, ought ye not better to build a temple within you so that the Lord may visit and give you life rather than one He does not dwell in and which ye have no promise?

[@jett888]

I don't believe we need a middleman to have an intimate relstionship with our maker. I also think our "authorities" don't want citizens to know the power we actually posses, like the ability to heal and the God given right to be healthy Men have been lied to for a very ling time by the " elite" bloodlines who have the desire to remain in power- corrupt power!

[@porter2241]

Thank you for recognizing that masonry is for making better men , better society. This is true.

[@Hipster_KM_TV]

Why are you mason

[@agomodern]

So what's with all of the masonic symbols (hand symbols, all-seeing-eye, #33, etc.) all over Hollyweird media, including violent and vile movies as well as music? Well, not only Hollywood, but throughout the world.

[@8thdayadventist911]

This is so funny😂 How am I not surprised Joseph Smith was a freemason😂 Freemasonry is satanism is disguise. So what does that mean when a freemason starts a new religion based on the testimony of one man?

[@jezbread8111]

Joseph Smith was a false prophet, as are all LDS prophets!

[@00Fisher00]

Why do you say that Freemasonry is connected to Satanism? What source of information are you relying on?

[@00Fisher00]

@@jezbread8111 Why would you say that?

[@yoeclipsed1599]

I’m not surprised either, Mormonism is a non biblical cult

[@steveandrews8301]

@@00Fisher00 In the very hard to find book, "Morals and Dogma of Freemasonry", it states clearly there that to them, lucifer is god almighty. Satan is the god of the lodge. The lower level masonic initiates are not privy to this information, admission, however - only those at the highest levels - typical of such secret societies, including the mormon church.

[@TheIowa2010]

Thank you for making this video! Being upfront with questions is so refreshing.

[@cidisights]

The problem with mormons is that they will watch this video and consider it truth because 'the church said so' rather than researching themselves..

[@00Fisher00]

@@cidisights You sure copy and paste a lot. Again, I encourage you to learn about the Church of Jesus Christ before casting judgment on its members.

[@d.charlespyle]

@@cidisights I consider it truth because it comports with what I know of the subject matter as a Mason.

[@wesleynunez3825]

This Freemasonry group is Satanic, don't be deceived! Jesus Christ is our King, not some weak pathetic fallen angel.

[@BradleyGagne]

Freemasonry began at Solomon’s Temple. The symbols and some of the rituals had been preserved over time. Joseph Smith said when he witnessed the mason rituals that it was a corrupt form of priesthood.

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

Freemasonry only traces back to medieval European stonemasonry guilds. Joseph certainly opined that it was of a more ancient origin, but opinion does not equate to doctrine.

[@ephraimsbeard8508]

You mean Solomon's Temple who Kings David's Pagan buddy Hyrum of Tyre designed and built? Not sure I would be proud of that fact. The same Hyrum the Masons worship regardless of what you read otherwise. "Pay Lay Ale"

[@Ragnark1]

I have searched far and wide for that quote. Can you please provide the citation for Smith actually saying this?

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

@@ephraimsbeard8508 Freemasons do not worship Hiram. Sorry.

[@d.charlespyle]

@@ephraimsbeard8508 Masons don't worship Hiram Abif. But we do honor his legend. His name comes straight out of the Miles Coverdale Bible of 1535, and the Bible of Martin Luther before that.

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

Both as a temple-endowed member of the Church and as a Utah Freemason, I'm very happy and content with this video. The Church did a wonderful job in having it made.

[@theresagraham5893]

Sadly this video is very decieving because it doesn't show the true secret combinations of the satanic Mason organisation. You would be blessed to leave the Mason's and hold solely to your membership in the LDS Church. Being a Mason is nothing to be proud of.

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

@@theresagraham5893 Freemasonry does not qualify as a secret combination nor as Satanic. You'd do well to learn what Masonry is from actual Masons instead of relying on rumor/gossip.

[@theresagraham5893]

@@BrandonCole_edohi let me upload a video for you to help you open your eyes a little. This is an absolute fact and sadly so many people are decieved.

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

@@theresagraham5893 You are more than welcome to provide grand lodge legislations, constitutions, by-laws, rituals, etc to support your claims.

[@00Fisher00]

@@theresagraham5893 I'll suggest that there has been more than one video put on the Internet that contains false information. You would do well to listen to the experiences of a person who knows firsthand what his organization is about--in this case, Mr. Cole.

[@dirtboy896]

I knew something was wrong growing up in the church. Glad I left

[@chewy7192]

Wow so glad you cleared that up! It all makes sense now! Halujabesuses

[@Krausediego]

I'm glad to see that these things are being discussed. Thanks for educating us.

[@churchofjesuschrist]

You're welcome, Bob. Thanks for your comment.

[@cambo6911]

Praise be to our Heavenly Father Jesus saves

[@jsp3366]

I have always had a lot of love and admiration for the Church of LDS but it has just expanded four or fivefold. I was raised RC but joined the Anglican Communion, partly because it does not forbid Masonry. I was somehow not aware of the Mormon teaching that God and the good can be found in many places, and am extremely heartened to see that this extends to Masonry. I am committed to Anglicanism and the via media, but this has solidified my respect for your Church. Thank you.

[@DivinePeace1102]

Correction, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, not Church of LDS.

[@thomasjohnson552]

That was darn good. I visited Temple Square and the Grand Masonic Lodge of Utah on a visit to Salt Lake City. The two female missionaries of the Latter Day Church were great guides of the Temple grounds and the Utah Masonic Brethren were wonderful friends. A wonderful trip!🤝

[@churchofjesuschrist]

Thanks for watching and for your comment, Thomas. We're glad to hear you enjoyed your visit to Temple Square! For others interested in visiting Temple Square in Utah, USA, see templesquare.org for information.

[@tonalharmony9266]

God's truth is not to be found in such secret societies. Live in the light, and we will know you by your works.

[@angelcarrillo140]

Is not secret, it’s sacred ;)

[@jasonroberts9788]

The masons and the LDS are both organizations known for their many many good works for others 👍

[@Melchizedek777]

2 Esdras 6:9 “For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth.”

[@Trevyno101]

If this isn’t enough evidence of the TRUTH about the Mormon religion, I don’t know how much more is needed. This makes it obvious!!

[@CollegeDreamJob]

Trevyn Campbell if it is such convincing evidence why don’t missionaries teach it? I never even knew he was a mason after 35 years in the church

[@jacobopstad5483]

How do you figure? A strong correlation between Joseph Smith being a mason and the temple endowment resembling the masonic rituals doesn't seem like evidence of truth in mormonism if you ask me. All this video really does is claim that he didn't steal the rituals. There's very little to go on here.

[@vendingdudes]

@@jacobopstad5483 haha I think Trevyn meant this "truth" makes it obvious (to him) that the Church is blasphemous.

[@vendingdudes]

@@CollegeDreamJob what does it matter? Why does it need to be taught? What difference would it make to a member or investigator? For most people, the only reason this is an "issue" is because is because church detractors say it is.

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

@@CollegeDreamJob Missionaries are called to teach basic Gospel doctrines. Though Masonry's briefly shared history with the Church is interesting (perhaps even more so to Latter-day Saint Masons like myself), it is superficial, irrelevant to our Salvation, and therefore outside of the purview of our missionaries (excluding, of course, tour missionaries called to serve in Nauvoo and showing the Nauvoo Masonic Lodge building 🙂).

[@andreidibre2289]

General Albert Pike, Grand Commander, sovereign pontiff of universal freemasonry, giving instructions to the 23 supreme councils of the world. “Yes, Lucifer is god, and unfortunately Adonay is also God, for the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two gods. darkness being necessary for light to serve as its foil, as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive.” If even after they clearly put this in your face and you still do not see it, nothing will help you

[@allentremper8243]

I hear ya, Masonry and God are in opposition to One Another!!!! May We Come Out Of Her My People, Lest You Partake In Her Sins.......!

[@PatriciaAnn-ov8mw]

"And God in all his wisdom said, ' Just, Build a better you" And the choice is yours. You WILL be judged by Good opinion of both God and Your SELF. Do Your Best. Judge not others unrighteous till you succeed to the rank of GOD

[@rustyf]

"Parallels" is a gentle way of putting exact movements and gestures between the two that existed first in Freemasonry. They may ascribe different meaning to them, but make no mistake there are exact things done in both, beyond just similarities or parallels.

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

Sorry, but most of the movements/gestures are also completely different. If the exact same things are done in both, please feel free to share where in the Church's temple endowment ceremony are found circumambulation, hoodwinks, officer stations, etc.

[@rustyf]

@@BrandonCole_edohi Not all things, just many that are the same. The temple ceremony has also been changed at least two times to take out more offensive material that people aren't okay with nowadays.

[@00Fisher00]

@@rustyf The endowment ceremony has also been changed to make things easier for people who have difficulty rising to stand and then sit back down so often, and I always felt like I preferred the earlier methods, but it didn't change the core covenants or the instruction. Some procedural things end up not being vital.

[@d.charlespyle]

@@rustyf Most of the parallels critics claim there are actually are bogus. They take them out of context, twist what remains, and try to use ceremonies of Rites to which Joseph Smith never belonged or witnessed. And they often do it using a book published in 1860! How many years too late is that?

[@clarkkent3730]

this is blasphemy and idolatry! Repent and believe the only true biblical gospel of the only true and living Jesus Christ!

[@00Fisher00]

It doesn't appear to have anything to do with either blasphemy or idolatry. I'd encourage you to learn about the Church of Jesus Christ at ComeUntoChrist.org or ChurchOfJesusChrist.org.

[@travishillsthedarkangelbun504]

YEP

[@zacq1783]

This didn’t really answer whether or not the temple rituals are copied from freemasonry or not. All you basically said was they weren’t copied because Joseph smith received revelation. That’s not a good enough explanation 🤷‍♂️

[@labtumcm]

Have you received personal revelation from God before? It's pretty convincing.

[@churchofjesuschrist]

Hi Zachery, thanks for watching and for your comment. This is an introductory video on the topic; for you or others interested in learning more, see the in-depth topic essay about Masonry on the Church's website below: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/masonry?lang=eng You can also read a short essay about the history of the temple endowment here: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/temple-endowment?lang=eng We hope that helps.

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

Joseph adopted the Masonic teaching model (theatrical presentation, mnemonic devices, illustrative symbols, etc) and adapted it to teach the Church's already-existing doctrines in the temple endowment ceremony. The subject matter, context, and purposes of the Church's temple endowment ceremony wholly differ from those of the degree ceremonies of Masonry. I hope that this resolves your doubts regarding Masonry.

[@iosonoi.7132]

It did answer the question. The real question your asking is whether Joseph Smith was really prophet.

[@righteouserubami1705]

I was directed by the holy Spirit to join the church after much prayer and fasting and this things took place months before I met the missionaries, I have never felt God's blessings and presence as much as I do now. This is the only true church upon the surface of the earth

[@melanierayworth4192]

Mormonism is equally as wrong as masonry. Faith in God is about choosing to turn from sin and turn to Jesus and be born again of the Holy Spirit and worship and believe the true God of THE Bible the KJV being one of the most accurate . All about personal relationship with the real Jesus. Nothing else will enter heaven. Jesus said I AM the way the truth and the life and no one comes to the Father except by me ❤

[@whitemagiktiger]

The real second coming of Christ is raising the chrism oil up our spinal chakra centers to awaken to our own Christ / Krishna / Cosmis consciousness. God bless y'all!

[@00Fisher00]

"Mormonism" isn't a real thing. The Church of Jesus Christ teaches us very much to have a personal relationship with God. You can learn about the Church at ComeUntoChrist.org.

[@HelamansArmy]

This is not at all surprising considering the origins of freemasonry.

[@onefodderunit]

Kabbalah. _Joseph Smith and Kabbalah: The Occult Connection_ by Lance S. Owens

[@johnpfmcguire]

See also witchcraft more generally, all Qabbalah-based

[@StevenThomas-is8bf]

You mean that free mason began in a tavern in Europe

[@BlueJayBirdSaint]

What are those origins?

[@checktheplaylist101]

@@onefodderunit bingo!

[@thunder7breaker]

Some advice for everyone: trust only those who let you have your freedom. Those who restrict it never mean good. If anything has a lot of secrecy, restrictions e.t.c. something's fishy behind it. Love and freedom has no boundaries.

[@latter-daytemplar7156]

Any infringement on anyone's secrets is a violation of that love and freedom. Everyone has secrets, including you.

[@ChristAliveForevermore]

When I found out that Mormonism wasn't born-again Christianity, but thinly-veiled paganism and high level freemasonry, I ran as far in the opposite direction as possible.

[@00Fisher00]

I'm sorry you "found out" something that was blatantly false. FYI, "Mormonism" isn't really anything. This video was produced by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which is the true Church of Jesus Christ that has been restored in our time. Please be skeptical of those who would speak poorly of the Church of Jesus Christ, just as you would be skeptical of those who accused Christ Himself in His day. You can learn for yourself.

[@MrUsmc99]

At “2:20” they failed to mention that the secret handshakes were also “similar”

[@OmniphonProductions]

I also loved that, "Based on their experience with both, they (early members) concluded the temple ceremony was of divine origin." Similarly, the Book of Mormon is written in an approximation of Early Modern English, the language of the King James Bible... a form of English that _nobody_ had actively spoken in over a century, especially in the USA. In _both_ cases, the similarity serves an effective _marketing_ purpose. As psychologists have thoroughly documented, that which is _familiar_ is more readily _accepted!_ The biggest _difference_ between the two ceremonies is that Masons pledge to engage in actions that promote the betterment of _society,_ while LDS Church members engage in actions aimed at the exaltation of their _own_ souls. Certainly the Baptism for the Dead ceremony is for the sake of those who have already died, BUT unless one engages in such activity, one cannot reach the Celestial Kingdom, so the motivation is _still_ selfish.

[@d.charlespyle]

But not the same. And that is the point. For the latter two of them, there is no similar in Freemasonry. For the first two, the only similarities involve the same finger and thumb, but the placement and execution of them are different, as are their meanings.

[@matthewkentdavila]

Thank you, President Nelson.

[@marthacain1468]

President Nelson is blessed example of a life of service to humanity. Leading by example, as following the journey~" in the shoes of the fisherman". God bless President Nelson.

[@melaniefisher6147]

I live in Utah and learning Joseph smith was a free mason makes everything make sense now ... my god. I pray everyday for the Mormons...

[@maxipower6932]

Thing is; mormons have no the slightest idea what free masonry is all about. It comes directly from the tower of Babel, Nimrod and buddies who build a tower pretending to get to haven and kill God, have children who are still hard at work. Since the devil could not do it in the war of heaven, his children promised, they will. So at the tower the languages were confounded and signs, and symbols became the preferred way of communicating among those involved in killing God after no one could understand one another. Today, all churches have a stipple on their church roofs, signifying the tower they have built so long ago, but now instead of killing God, which is not possible, kill spiritually His children. Also with obelisks, mighty tall towers, and stipples on churches they are as middle fingers pointing to God's throne. Truth is stranger than fiction. Mormons are as lost as the Ark of the Covenant. They have been totally deceived!!

[@00Fisher00]

You ought to talk to members of the Church of Jesus Christ as you pray for them. You ought to seek understanding first. Otherwise, it's like praying for a healthy man to recover from an illness he doesn't actually have.

[@shahmuhammad7442]

Joseph Smith (1805/12/23-1844/06/27) was made a freemason "at sight" by Grand Master Abraham Jonas, then initiated on March 15, 1842, and passed and raised on March 16, 1842. Although Denslow's 10,000 Famous Freemasons. The raising of a man to be a Free Mason, AT Sight, is very rare. Abraham Jonas (born September 12, 1801, in Exeter, England; died June 8, 1864) was the first permanent [Jewish] resident in Quincy, Illinois. He was a member of the Illinois and Kentucky state legislatures, a leading lawyer, Freemason, and a valued friend of Abraham Lincoln. May Gods peace be upon Joseph Smith and Abraham Jonas, in the Name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

[@wesleynunez3825]

It was ok, but they forgot to mention that FREE MASONRY IS SATANISM

[@C901-r8i]

I haven’t even gone a minute into the video yet but I love the idea that the church itself has touched on this 👏🏾👌🏿👍🏾💋😍

[@churchofjesuschrist]

Hi @ev Prod, this video was produced by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Thanks for tuning in!

[@churchofjesuschrist]

@eV Prod, Joseph Smith, founder of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, was a Freemason. This video teaches about the history of Masonry, Masonry in the early days of the Church, and similarities between Masonry and temple ceremonies of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. You or others interested can learn more here: www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/masonry?lang=eng

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

@eV Prod You are incorrect. Pike never referred to Lucifer as god. A fake quote attributed to Pike that made this claim originated in the Taxil Hoax after Pike's death.

[@Fefo419]

@@BrandonCole_edohi it is a shame that the Church accepts Freemasonry and promotes it. To be a Mason is to accept taking the Lord's name in vain. On the other hand, I see Masonry in the high positions of the Church, it is a secret association within the church and that God is going to uncover. Trials are coming soon

[@Fefo419]

@@churchofjesuschrist it is a shame that the Church accepts Freemasonry and promotes it. To be a Mason is to accept taking the Lord's name in vain. On the other hand, I see Masonry in the high positions of the Church, it is a secret association within the church and that God is going to uncover. Trials are coming soon

[@csluau5913]

It’s about time they dealt with this and answered this question publicly. My dad and a couple of my uncles are masons. I have chosen not to be amazing. Sometimes the best policy is just clearing the air.

[@frikari31]

But I'm pretty sure you're very amazing!

[@walcuppernell2931]

This explanation will work for those who already believe the religion formerly known as Mormonism but will not convince those outside. It’s designed as a defensive move against well-founded suspicion and criticism from non-Mormons.

[@00Fisher00]

The name of the Church has been the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints since 1838. "Mormonism" has always been a nickname. This video isn't meant to convince anyone to join the Church of Jesus Christ; it's just providing helpful insight.

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

Those of us with firsthand experience both as temple-endowed members of the Church and as Freemasons know that the suspicions and criticisms to which you refer are not "well-founded."

[@MasonicAudiobookLibrary]

Whoever you are who can't sleep tonight, is tired or sad, believe that there will be tomorrow that will light up your beautiful days. You just need to endure a little more, a little more, and a little more ... Thank you for being patient, thank you for being able to survive. And as you read this, promise yourself that you will be able to get through your toughest days in the future. Promise to keep smiling, no matter how you are ... You deserve to be happy :)

[@TruthSifter]

A few who are Latter-day Saints and Masons who provide appropriately sensitive deeper dives into the relationship between the Latter-day Saint temple and Freemasonry include: Greg Kearney, Mark Koltko-Rivera, and Ted Cross.

[@alexwatson7068]

On Truth & Liberty I listened to a really fascinating FAIR Mormon talk. I feel like Greg Kearney May have given it but I may be mistaken.

[@KTPurdy]

Don't forget Michael Homer

[@d.charlespyle]

@@KTPurdy Sadly, some of Homer's stuff is a bit misleading. Frankly, I don't understand that. He connects Joseph with two obscure Rites that weren't even in America at the time, and were thousands of miles away. And, when I looked into the rituals of the Adoptive Rite, they had nothing even remotely like what is in the LDS temple ceremony. Like I said, I don't understand why he tried to make such connections.

[@alejandroavalos6527]

Satan has left the chat.

[@NG-we8uu]

Alejandro Avalos there’s no fun in being honest right?

[@00Fisher00]

Actually, he seems to be inspiring quite a few mean-spirited comments that falsely disparage the Church of Jesus Christ or prophets of God.

[@tyd3407]

Jay Britton Fisher sounds like you’re demeaning the demeanors

[@Mk101T]

So is the oval office clone in the DC temple next on the ..."Now you Know" video list ? Is the big reveal coming up this election cycle ? There is an open house slated after current renovations right ?

[@edwarddecker8050]

Satan started the chat!

[@theresakennedy7339]

I knew he was a mason finding Egyptian scrolls, having them translated and saying god spoke to him. They have done this several times in history, not giving Africans proper credit for their writings and knowledge.

[@zanelegeire8683]

Out of curiosity, who is "they", and what are the dates/times/places in which on "several" occasions Africans (Berbers? Abyssinians? Yemenites? Ghanaians? Bantus? Congolese?) were not awarded proper credit for writings/knowledge. If you wish to argue that the various cultures and civilizations that have gone to make up the MASSIVE human presence in the African continent have gotten short shrift in terms of contemporary written history, then you have a valid point. However, I can not recall a single moment in the brief history of the LDS Church when someone attempted to claim credit for something that an African-based Civ. was clearly responsible for. As in ever. I do get where your coming from, Ms. Kennedy, but would like to see something a bit more specific. Cheers.

[@theresakennedy7339]

@@zanelegeire8683 if you're interested in LDS history and who to credit start with the Book of Abraham and the Book.

[@yahwehsprophet2497]

Thanks for the info. I'm learning about The Church of Latter-Day Saints and find this very informational May God Jesus Christ Through Holy Spirit Keep showing us all the truth every day about God and his Son Jesus the Christ, once again thank you for the information I listen to all that has to do with the Church of Latter-Day Saints even those against so I can see with my spiritual eyes what Satan is trying to hinder the truth with so sad but Satan is real and the father of lies WOW I learn so much and glad to always have Elohim, God the Father, wants us to not be blind but see we don't fight flesh and blood but spiritual things in high places Eph. Chapter 6:10-17 especially verse 12 as my main emphasis !!!

[@agomodern]

Um, you forgot to put the name Jesus Christ in the name of the church. I'm sure you just accidently forgot.

[@janlloyd6138]

I always knew in my gut that the Baptismal for the dead was a freemasonic rite.

[@miemartine2216]

🧭 The Mason's Carpenter's Compass (Arch) over a Carpenter's Square (Angle) has references to The Carpenter's Son Jesus and Arch + Angle = Archangel. With a Carpenter's Compass being used to make Circles - a Symbol for Heaven. While a Square is a Symbol for Earth. With Two Carpenter's Squares joined Corner to Corner making a Crucifix. With a Circle over a Crucifix making a ♀️ A simplified Egyptian Ankh Key 🗝️ of Life - God's Eye Symbol. With the Bible being translated from Egyptian Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek. With there being many more Godly teachings, within the Mason's Symbology. And Ephesians 6:12 Clearly states we are in a Spiritual War. People are too reliant on what other people say. Instead of prayerfully asking to our Heavenly Father, in the name of Jesus. To know what is true, by The Holy Ghost. 🙏

[@00Fisher00]

Does any source outside your gut tell you this?

[@agomodern]

@@00Fisher00

[@placeholderprofile____]

its in the scriptures. the freemasons do kill though. they are about death but completely opposite.

[@ishkabbish3102]

Yea, nothing weird about some guy hijacking the Gospel and creating a new Religion with it and adding a new book to go along with it and if you thought that was normal, it gets even more basic. The same guy has a brother AND FATHER who are both Freemasons, yep, nothing weird about that at all.

[@vortex9604]

I have met people with similar concerns. What IS the gospel I ask? We believe the gospel to be 1. Faith in the Lord, Jesus Christ 2. Repentance 3. Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins 4. Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost and 5. Endure to the end (that is to say keep having faith in Christ and keep the commandments to the end of your life. Repentance is not a one-time thing). Does this sound any different from the teachings of Christ? No. It is the same. Both Bible and Book of Mormon teach of these things. I testify that the Book of Mormon and Bible are true.

[@churchofjesuschrist]

Thanks for sharing, @Vortex9. Keep it up! For those interested in learning more, visit comeuntochrist.org.

[@stevenpratt6986]

Thank you for this solid overview of the Joseph Smith-Masonry connection. Those who look into it more deeply will find Joseph Smith left the Masons because he found they had become corrupted. I have inferred for many years that he was led to become a Mason in order to prime him for revelation that extended far beyond the radar of Masonry. In this there is a subtle endorsement of the idea that Masonry has indeed safeguarded truths over many centuries.

[@Hallowed_Ground]

Hmm, interesting. In your viewpoint, does this mean we should look into Freemasonry more closely?

[@riverdean7]

@@Hallowed_Ground it means u should prolly wake up and leave the mormon cult

[@Silentpartner2176]

You're absolutely correct.

[@stevenpratt6986]

@@Hallowed_Ground I would not make a general recommendation to study Masonic history. From what I've gathered from a handful of researchers, the valuable part of what Masons have "safeguarded" (accidentally not altered or lost) over the years is found in dusty, seldom-viewed books, and the valuable portions of those books can be summed in a few paragraphs. A high level of scholarship and a great deal of spiritual discernment are necessary to sort that all out throught this direct approach. I've read that Masons claim a heritage of wisdom dating back to Solomon, or Egypt, or one other figure I won't mention yet. From an LDS perspective, any truth Egypt had came from Abraham and/or Enoch. What was revealed then can be revealed again, in its right time. Luke 8:17 “For nothing is secret that will not be revealed, nor anything hidden that will not be known and come to light.” I would argue that God's people in different centuries require different components, or facets, of the truths available from heaven. No people can bear it all, we mortals are clumsy that way. So some of the truths that were appropriate for the City of Enoch, or the Saints the New Testament days, might not be appropriate for us right now. I believe that seeking to force "missing" truths into the view of the Church at large will be hard going. The time must be right for each concept, following the line upon line principle. However, individuals who feel drawn to look into this will find themselves rewarded. These are the people who don't ask for permission. I know a couple of them, not specifically regarding Masonic history, but other facets of our spiritual heritage. And one more thing. Eccl 1:18 reads, "For in much wisdom is much grief, And he who increases knowledge increases sorrow." From the sliver of understanding I have about these matters, I can say that this advisory is in full effect here. There is much to mourn, and much to forgive, when learning about what our clumsy, mortal forefathers fumbled in their day, leading to much suffering and darkness that we struggle with still. It is not for the faint of heart to learn about such things.

[@BrandonCole_edohi]

It should be noted that Joseph *opined* that Freemasonry was a corrupted form of priesthood. However, this was never recorded in the Church's doctrinal canon. It should further be noted that Joseph only adopted the Masonic teaching model (theatrical presentation, mnemonic devices, illustrative symbols, etc) and adapted it to teach the Church's already-existing doctrines in the temple endowment ceremony. Its subject matter, context, and purposes wholly differ from those of the degree ceremonies of Freemasonry. It should finally be noted that Joseph never resigned or demitted from Masonry. He died as a Mason in good standing.

[@luisdizon2486]

Well, got to give them credit for being honest and up-front.