Avoid being separated from your boat using THIS method

[@Konfliktloeser]

Thanks to Joe "Crash Test Dummy" ...such a brave man to make the Cat Sailors Live more Secure... Big Respect coming from Rosenheim... The next Amstel goes on my bill!

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks Max!

[@SailingAndInvesting]

Love it! I also like the mainsheet as the tether. The connection is at the stern, so you have some control of the boat's heading. You can also swim laterally to get the boat in irons if needed. The extra drag also does a great job slowig the boat.

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, this worked perfectly well. I'll certainly be using this method when sailing off shore on the catamaran

[@HobieCat68]

Nice one Joe! Taking the hits so we don't have to! One important point when talking about boats running away from you is to make sure you have the boat set up so that it has a slight amount of weather helm. You want enough weather helm that the boat will quickly turn into the wind and stop if you go overboard. This way, if your a decent swimmer, you should have no trouble catching up to the boat.

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes that's a good point. The main concern is main out jib in - then the boat will just run away, even if you have a bit of weather helm.

[@feedingravens]

With the uprighting line, the pitchpole from the trapeze (wrapping the line around the shroud) would have probably mangled you right into the mast. So you know how long your mainsheet has to be, hauled tight there must be a long enough loop to bring you easily in front of the forestay. And do not do it like me, when trying to hold on catch a bare trapeze wire and slide along it with bare fingers... I see the Hobie 16 still has the plastic coating on wires and shrouds. I remember we had a training with Christian Stoll, a very good german cat sailor, when the Hobie Tiger was still young. He told us that when John Dinsdale, the designer, prouldly presented his new baby to him, the first thing he did was cut off this plastic coating from all wires (claiming too much drag). He said John almost cried - but the Tigers really refrained from the coating from then on. Would have been better for my fingers 4 weeks ago with Martin in Vassiliki had John said "I don't care about Christian's opinion".

[@JoyriderTV]

Yeah for sure - I didn't dare pitchpole when hooked into the righting line for that exact reason! I remember that time with the first Tigers.

[@JABTV2008]

Hi Joe, yes that's right, I've been considering this issue for a long time. I clip myself onto the mainsheet with a caribiner but as you say, the danger of inadvertently clipping on to another rope or something, is always present. So I'm changing to a quick-release shackel like you demonstrated. I haven't fallen off yet, but last week the trap wire on my mate's FX1 broke, and in the space of 10 seconds, he was a long way away and it took about 10 min to turn around and pick me up. Alone, it would have been a long swim to the shore. Great stuff mate. Thanks.

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks, It's good to know that it works in regular practice. Cheers

[@dukeberryman]

One day, I want to do a solo sail, fall of my boat, be picked up by another boat, be delivered back to my boat, and continue sailing. Seriously, thanks for doing this Joe! It’s a real safety issue and needs a demo like this. I do like the stories I’ve heard from Old Salts of being dragged for miles while tethered. They probably needed a quick release. As long as you can get your ass back on the boat you’ll do fine.

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks Duke, although pretty scary to deliberately stack it, this was pretty fun to make - especially with it being so hot at the moment.

[@htimst1967]

Thanks for this Joe! I'm an aging FX1 sailor and am somewhat concerned about falling off the boat. My apprehension of tethering was realized when you used the righting line. This mainsheet/traveller snap shackle trick looks like it will fit the bill. Cheers!

[@JoyriderTV]

Glad to help!

[@woodsskiier68]

Thank you so much!! One of my biggest fears getting separated from boat when single handing alleviated! 👍

[@JoyriderTV]

Glad it helped!

[@lannyls]

Fantastic. Brilliant testing and advice as always! Thank you.

[@JoyriderTV]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@ricorehme4836]

Hey joe You really do everything for your fans. And another Amstel for you on my cover. Greetings from Germany, Rico

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks Rico!!!

[@markjones3425]

Good Test Joe, And a very useful one at that. One would always assume that sailing solo on the trapeze that if falling off one would just hold onto the mainsheet, but that is most probably not what would happen as you continue into the water...meaning easily letting go of the main and seeing the ship sail off into ether without you. Thanks and I'm sure with the current heat you were loving the test as well!

[@JoyriderTV]

Yeah for sure, the temperature certainly made this a lot more pleasant! I worry more for the light winds - maybe the wake of a ship bounces the boat knocking you off and you're not holding the sheet. I'm kind of planning an long distance voyage for next year solo - so i'm certainly interested in this

[@moremoney1704]

Awesome work Mate! Awesome! - Getting back on the water here in San Diego, just waiting on some W

[@JoyriderTV]

I hope that you find some W soon! Cheers

[@jrfsailing07]

Fantastic video!! Thank you!

[@JoyriderTV]

Glad you liked it!

[@andreschianale]

Good video, thanks. A kitesurf release system might be a good option too

[@declan8649]

What does that look like?

[@craigb1572]

I agree, it may need a slightly larger clip/karabiner to clip thicker rope.

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, I tried it and what i found was that the extra length was a bit more prone to getting caught - especially when moving in or out from the trapeze. Personally, i was very happy with the snap shackle. Felt safe.

[@willadeney8892]

Thanks so much Joe. Just came back from WildWind Mauritius to learn how to Trapeze, Helm and Trapeze for solo sailing. This is the missing piece of the Jigsaw! Big shout out to Giovanni and especially Kuma (Sp?)…. For an amazing 2 weeks.

[@JoyriderTV]

Very nice guys at WW MRU, i bet you had a great time. Cheers

[@joaquins90]

Hi Joe!! I've done it with the main sheet but after seeing this I'm a bit concerned as the f18 main sheet is much shorter. I do add a little bit of rope between the harness and the snap shackle, but not nearly enough to go around the stay in a pitchpole, that much wouldn't be practical to have hanging of the harness. luckily never tested it so far. In any case I'm thinking in adding some extra rope to the main sheet as it's too short for a beam reach with high wind, not a problem racing, thou.

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, I can certainly see how that would end up on a bigger boat - hello mast - ouch! I think when free sailing or expeditioning clipping in, but when racing there would generally be assistance available.

[@Nikoo033]

The final “crash” was pretty impressive 😅. What one need really is a rope attached to the mast and clipped somehow to you safety jacket that frees the rope when pulled and retracts and coils itself when released, a bit like the rubber strings of badges that are clipped on our trousers at times for work and access doors, if you see what I mean. 👍🏻

[@JoyriderTV]

I considered something like that but i wanted to not add any more lines

[@markevans5596]

Mind reader, I'm about to set up my boat in a new location in a few days, allowing me for the first time to go solo sailing. This exact issue has been playing on my mind, thanks!

[@JoyriderTV]

I'm glad that I got this out in time to help!

[@markevans5596]

@@JoyriderTV mate you have no idea how much you have helped with all your great videos ⭐

[@oldfartonabmx2122]

So is the idea to jump when you know that going over is inevitable? (Absolute beginner here)

[@JoyriderTV]

Controlled exiting of the boat is better. Than falling into certain parts of the boat. So yes. I'll talk about this in this week's Q+A

[@thorng3931]

You can talk about the topic "should I attach myself to the boat?" all night long or you can simply watch our hero Joe for 13min. ...

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks for the endorsement!

[@sv.don.pinguino]

Great video, tks

[@JoyriderTV]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@bowwave59]

I think I’d just stay clipped into the trapeze. That’s my safety line and with the magic marine trapeze harness with built in hook release for more safety. Would it be possible to have a safety pin release on the main block to the boom. Pull the pin with your tether and the boom goes out to the shroud. The boat either rounds up to windward or capsizes. Or a bungee cord on the rudders pulling them full lock once you let go.. so you have to constantly hold the tiller to steer but once you let go turns the boat to windward or into a gybe and capsize.

[@JoyriderTV]

It's fine for the light wind but when you're using the trapeze, there's always a small chance that your wire will break. For the QR on the main block. I wouldn't release it as that will cause the boat to bear away rather than head up.

[@laurimyllyvirta467]

With a proper slingshot pitchpole the trapeze line will be long gone. Plus yes the risk of the line or the loop breaking or simply missing the loop when hooking in. Have seen all of those happen.

[@Septerrianin]

That's who should work as a stuntman in all modern action movies

[@JoyriderTV]

Ha, Yes, I'd love to!!!

[@chrisbeauchamp5563]

I’m pretty wary about been attached to the boat. Last year my righting line got caught on my harness. After righting I was dragged under the boat and it took at least 2 minutes to unhook. Conditions were windy and if the boat had capsized again the was the real danger of been pinned wrapped to the hull. It was quiet uncomfortable and so hard trying to get rope off with one hand while been dragged. My thoughts are sail in group multi crew or close enough to swim to shore. Been pinned you’ve only got a minute.

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks for sharing - this has been one of my main concerns and that's why the solution i went for is with a very easily usable quick release. I would only use this if i was sailing solo, open water with no other boats around.

[@chrisbeauchamp5563]

@@JoyriderTV I could see the hesitation 😊 Always appreciate you putting it on the line for science Joe. I’ve recently invested in PLB they are small and you can put in the vest. I realise there’s an outlay but cheap insurance is the way I see it, good for mountain biking too in case of bad injury

[@laurimyllyvirta467]

Have you thought of / tried a dog leash? That's my go to. Minimizes the entanglement risk by reeling in the extra line.

[@JoyriderTV]

I had considered it but I thought by using the loop of the mainsheet it has the dual purpose of meaning that you always have it with you and, you're not adding another rope to potentially get caught up with

[@laurimyllyvirta467]

@JoyriderTV Thanks, that makes sense. I prefer to toss the mainsheet over to the other side before a gybe/tack and then only have the leash to manage during the maneuver which is a lot less hassle. Also keeps the movements more similar to sailing two up which is important for me.

[@fCauneau]

This video reminds me the previous one describing the reversed rudder bar deadly trap : yours tutos surelely saved lifes already, don't you know ?

[@JoyriderTV]

I'm very lucky to be in a position where i can help so many sailors. Cheers

[@nburlon]

Joe, is the trapeze not the safety we are seeking here ? If I fall of the boat, being with the trapeze will prevent to be separate for it, isn't it ?

[@JoyriderTV]

Yes, but only if you're hooked in. I think if you're sailing open sea, solo, then being clipped into something more permanent adds a layer of safety. There is also the chance of the snapped trapeze wire. I'm thinking of sailing solo a long passage and i'll certainly be clipping in as well as hooking in.

[@pixiecat6109]

gutsy stuff

[@JoyriderTV]

you bet!

[@frbo323]

Always having a life line elastic dynema attached to me

[@JoyriderTV]

Nice. I'll have to check that out.

[@Priidik1524]

joe can adjust wind from his phone

[@JoyriderTV]

you know it!

[@義雄-z4p]

❤😂😊

[@JoyriderTV]

Thanks!!!

[@harrangaming6382]

sail a monohull

[@JoyriderTV]

Ha! Thats a top tip!

[@motoyamabumpei5375]

ま

[@JoyriderTV]

ouch!