At 82, I don't ride anymore. But I still remember English lessons in the 1950s when my instructor taught me that contact with the horse's mouth should be "like a butterfly on the end of a string". That phrase rings in my head 60 years later! And that lesson served me well, whether riding Western, English or gaited horses.
@JosephNewcomb7 ай бұрын
Yay
@Flying0Dismount7 ай бұрын
I wish I remembered who said it, but one of the quotes that I heard early in my riding career but it didn't click until much later was that "you must release your horse into contact". Depending on the horse's stage of training, this could mean completely letting go, or simply switching from a "guiding" hand to a "following" hand, but the horse always goes rounder and with more connection with the "release".
@JosephNewcomb7 ай бұрын
Love it
@lennyrat4ever447Ай бұрын
@JosephNewcomb I don't understand quite what to do. "Pick up the reins, get him round...let go". What do you mean by round and how do you achieve it?
@NadyaPena-017 ай бұрын
I love how you explain things
@phoenixx63807 ай бұрын
After riding for most of my life, I firmly believe the first step to get a horse on the bit is to teach them to give to your hand, especially on the outside rein. This is why so many people struggle to get their horse on the bit. Going fowards means nothing if when you ask with your hand/rlbow, the nose mouth doesn't give. Sit on their back, stand still, explain to them ! Use carrots as a reward, make a fuss when they 'give' to your fingers/hand/ elbow. It has to be an auto matic reaction for them. Then add in using your inside leg on the circle to your 'asking' outside rein, and use your inside rein to adjust where the nose sits after it has dropped. Got that? Practice starting trot steps out of your on-the-bit walk on the circle. Bit, by bit, by bit. Each step has to be explained to your horse, then addbits together. Happy riding. ❤
@cool_carl17317 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@mirandy10147 ай бұрын
Love how you broke that down more
@mirandy10147 ай бұрын
After you pick up reins can you add step by step what you do to make him round. Loved the explanation but everyone explains it differently or leaves out which reins is doing what and when
@phoenixx63807 ай бұрын
Thanks for the replies! This is the most basic crude steps. The finesse of riding 'up to' the bit comes after this. I've encountered so many people briskly riding forwards hoping the on-the-bit will appear, when their horse has no idea how to 'give' to the contact (half halt on the outside rein). People end up riding a very fast giraffe and they get frustrated why this forwards thing doesn't work, and give up. This is also where the pulling comes from that Joseph talks about. Horse going forward, head in the air, rider pulling or hanging on the mouth hoping something will happen. Your horse doesn't want to be difficult, they just haven't learnt to give to the outside rein and 'sit' on it, and neither has the rider (who is also learning!).
@phoenixx63807 ай бұрын
Exactly! I had to spend years learning the hard way. I want to help others who are struggling also 'get it'. Mary Wanless is also a great source. @@mirandy1014
@gooserdog71447 ай бұрын
love seeing the give and take and letting him figure it out, most people just force and hold. Let the horse share the work. Good demo.
@mirandy10147 ай бұрын
At 3:00 you say make him round. What exactly did you do?
@hayleytreadgold25307 ай бұрын
So helpful! Love that you’ve used a young horse and not an older accomplished horse!
@georginasambuca26406 ай бұрын
Yes! My horse is 4/5 yo and have the same issue about the teeth. Thanks!
@KimE-l5dАй бұрын
Thank you so much for the clarity…
@alinebrandau3982Ай бұрын
This is excellent!!!
@maddiclark44823 күн бұрын
Thank you! I’m going to try this tomorrow 🤞🏼🤞🏼 would you say this is a pressure & release method? The way you reward the contact with a release in pressure on the reins?
@mindsetmel10177 ай бұрын
Omg, thank you! I've been struggling with getting a longer connection with my horse. I will def try it this way!
@yvonneschouten89737 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing! Love how you explain and show these things🙌
@Mitschi.S7 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing. It works 🙂 Greetings from Germany ...
@Clairek19857 ай бұрын
Finally, a video that may help me! 🙏. I always warm up with a long rein, working abit long and low also to stretch his back, but also to start with self carriage so he doesn't think i'm there to hold him, as before i started loaning him he was very heavy in your hands!, and thankfully now he has learnt to hold himself just from starting off on a long rein. Anyway, that's been achieved as well as many other things on the training scale, but it's actually getting him on the bit and staying there. I was looking for a video just like this, so i am absolutely giving this a try!! Many thanks 🏴
@holistic_equine7 ай бұрын
Love it! I was a little concerned when I read the headline. So happy to see your methods are soft and correct :)
@JosephNewcomb7 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@redmare17467 ай бұрын
Thank you! Very useful for my young horse.
@JosephNewcomb7 ай бұрын
Yay glad you like it.
@kellyerobinson78137 ай бұрын
This was the exact right time to see this. I’m going to try this tomorrow and I’ll let you know how it worked!
@JosephNewcomb7 ай бұрын
Yay. Let me know.
@HorseHackers2 ай бұрын
Great video Joseph thanks
@paolopiccirillo67604 ай бұрын
Very good,thanks for your clear explanation
@laureradloff38047 ай бұрын
Fun ideas. I think you need to first define "round" because its not just pole flexion. And then, what are you doing to get the horse "round"?
@mirandy10147 ай бұрын
lol I JUST asked the same question! Everyone makes good vids but ALWAYS leaves something out. And then the getting on the bit vids doesn’t say which rein is doing what and when. Frustrating
@traceylamping89797 ай бұрын
Love this video - thank you!!!
@marec613547 ай бұрын
Fantastic approach!!
@JosephNewcomb7 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@mette19767 ай бұрын
Super
@H.Psauce6 ай бұрын
Thankyou ❤
@titanbuck77 ай бұрын
Havent seen this explained better❤❤❤❤
@Jentalks3806 ай бұрын
Good teaching method🎉
@anna-karinwiklund32167 ай бұрын
Yes👏👏
@emmyennit3 ай бұрын
But how do you get them round !
@patriciaruth28947 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing! ❤
@robynatkins48917 ай бұрын
Thank you for this! Love the rehearse!
@cynthiaspalding80277 ай бұрын
Very good explanation, thanks!
@МаксимКачура-ж6р7 ай бұрын
Main problem horse doesnt want go round )))i try to band him-he stops or go side) he resist to banding
@vaqueroontario7 ай бұрын
Well done!
@diane90717 ай бұрын
Very helpful thankyou 😊
@JosephNewcomb7 ай бұрын
You’re welcome 😊
@Dixietheeventer6 ай бұрын
Thank you! I’ve literally been struggling with this problem. This came at the perfect time! Is it just me or is it easier to frame a horse bareback? Seems like I can use my leg easier without a saddle… But anyways, I subbed! Thank you.
@BeaKing-ob7fq3 ай бұрын
I find the same and figured it was because without a saddle we plug our seat in better (without being heavy just connected). I wonder if sometimes we focus so much on looking good in dressage position we forget that and tense - I think I did anyway, fixed it now! Great video and so clear.
@clrhealing7 ай бұрын
such a lovely horse ❤
@Lilligirl3196 ай бұрын
I ride English but I use western training for my horses always. I really think that the training style is easier on the horse. I have a fat little cob who is basically a farm hack who does everything on the buckle. I alway laugh when someone gets on him and is surprised by how soft he is when they pick him up and ask him to come round 😂. Well of course he’s soft he’s never been taught to ride through the hand like so many dressage trainers seem to use 😅
@NehaMathews-sx5jh7 ай бұрын
is this Amelia Newcomb’s brother or husband? I love the way both of them ride and teach!!
@JosephNewcomb7 ай бұрын
Hi. I’m her brother. Thank you
@NehaMathews-sx5jh7 ай бұрын
@@JosephNewcomb dressage runs in the family!!!
@erikamatsson88677 ай бұрын
👍
@sarahrilkoffrealtor7 ай бұрын
where did you get your mirrors?
@Chewymochifruity7 ай бұрын
Hi i am a novice rider. Can u explain why alot of horses look down when they are round? is there a way to make them round but looking forward? I love to see horses looking up and proud instead of downwards :)
@kellydelima92107 ай бұрын
That's yo do with training stage. Novice horse looks down when he is round, then you push them up from behind. It takes strength built over time for them to be round with head up as hocks must come further under. Collection is advanced.
@Chewymochifruity7 ай бұрын
@@kellydelima9210 Oh, i see. Thanks for letting me know!! its going to take me some time for me to get there but i am so excited!:)
@Miss-Laine7 ай бұрын
But getting round does it mean engaging top line or just accepting the bit/being on the bit?
@Christine2757 ай бұрын
Dear Joseph, in another video you work the horse completly different in order to establish contact. Taking the contact, then adding energy. Here you do it the other way round - first riding forward on a loose rein, then taking the contact. At least it seems so to me. Could you explain it a little bit further - when to apply which riding. This would be very helpful. Thanks, Chris The video I am talking about is this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGrTiGiiaNWjhtU
@JosephNewcomb7 ай бұрын
Good point!
@Christine2757 ай бұрын
@@JosephNewcomb Good point - and? Still waiting for a short explanation ;-)
@Clara-eh8gy7 ай бұрын
I can't get my horse on the bit because I can't make him round ! What to do in that case ?
@mirandy10147 ай бұрын
Exactly! No one explains!
@equestanton10174 ай бұрын
Yes these things work but almost surely most often the problem is a lack of energy and rider fear of energy. You need to feed horses, they need energy or they wont be interested in carrying themselves, you need to be able to ride forward and know how to deal with the odd buck by riding it out elegantly and gently. Unless a horses mouth is ruined they will aways respond to a gentle hand if there is enough fuel in the tank to want to. Horse age is also a thing, young horses get tired quickly. But honestly a horse should be on the bit before it's even backed. It should be responsive on the long rein, in its halter, in general handling. It should want to take your hand lightly and follow its lead, not drag behind like an aged dog on a leash. As gently as a butterfly on a string as Sarah bellow said. If it's tired and underfed you are never going to achieve that because the butterfly wont have the energy to even flap its wings.
@crystalatwood51947 ай бұрын
What about a horse who is behind the bit?
@stephanengelhardt26167 ай бұрын
Engagement of the hind (and through it the back) is key!
@stephanengelhardt26167 ай бұрын
And success can only be achieved if you Are able to let go of the Reins and stop pulling.
@kellyerobinson78137 ай бұрын
Joseph, will you do a video on how to engage the hind?
@anettemonroe51406 ай бұрын
I think a lot of people don't understand how to get a horse round. Because just picking up the reins doesn't necessarily do it.
@titanbuck77 ай бұрын
I would sell this horse to a home that only wants to use him low key maybe 3 to 4x a week but not serious competitions he has a crooked right front and wobbly right hind which can lead to hock issues later on.
@gbpaggi7 ай бұрын
You must be one of those horrible western riders that have their horses so low that they’re almost touching the ground. That’s not riding and he doesn’t have those issues you pretend to know about, Mr TitanBuck.
@melaniemiller90377 ай бұрын
Round in the neck is not correct riding. Riding from back to front, thru half halts, and transitions will "get them round " and thru the back.
@gbpaggi7 ай бұрын
True hate watching western riding where they have their heads almost on the ground. And unbelievably cruel bits. So cruel.
@JavierBonillaC7 ай бұрын
Do you have a video? I'm working on this.
@JavierBonillaC7 ай бұрын
Oh yes you do have a video. That's below level 1. How can you give advice?
@melaniemiller90377 ай бұрын
@JavierBonillaC because THAT horse was being trained at intro level. She's now at level 2 and properly trained. That video was in 2020, 4 years ago. Nice try. Just because someone doesn't ride grand prix, doesn't mean they aren't educated on classical training. You have zero knowledge of my experience.
@melaniemiller90377 ай бұрын
@JavierBonillaC while you're judging my young horse, concentrate on your hideous sitting trot. Your horse is a saint to put up with that jarring motion.
@OneWayTicketToTheMoon7 ай бұрын
Stop the clicking...use vocal encouragement by all means, horses learn words very quickly. Who the heck knows what click click means?
@harmonysprogress4 ай бұрын
My horse knows exactly what one click, two clicks and a kiss mean as well as words.. 💗💗💗