Josh Dubin Discusses the Sheldon Johnson Situation

[@Claybigs42069]

He didnt take accountability when he was discussing his crimes he wasnt reformed at all

[@geometerfpv2804]

100%. He tried to make it sound like it was no big deal, like he didn't REALLY do anything violent, the guy just got a LITTLE roughed up... He wasn't reformed at all.

[@noahbaker-kang5148]

Yeah, he made it sound like he barely did anything wrong. When in reality he shot a guy in the back and was a violent armed robber

[@Mr.Rogers91]

He was trying to say he was a victim of "over sentencing" but clearly there was a reason they gave buddy 70 years

[@zehcnasmedia1016]

He was straight up boasting about how good and organized and commanding he was in the crime life... even though he had been locked up and out of the streets for 30 years..., he was stroking his ego in the podcast. He tried to play if off "humbly", but most people were able to see right through it. He was eager to get back out and start doing crazy shii again

[@justingagnier1394]

@@Claybigs42069 the only reason you’re saying that is because others tore apart his body language and the words he used AFTER the fact. You’re regurgitating what you’ve heard.

[@MarvinsVlog]

He called the black judge who originally sentenced him a sell out and an Uncle Tom…tough.

[@blazayblazay8888]

IS HE?

[@TheSicarius92]

He fucking murdered someone. That animal doesnt belong in civil society. ​@blazayblazay8888

[@BrandonBostonCreator]

Doesn't really look like it now, does it? Lol. ​@@blazayblazay8888

[@BrianGreene-rn9uz]

Any black that gets ahead in life and obeys the law is an Uncle Tom? Or is it because he should have been light on him because he is black?

[@Dopesickgypsy]

​@blazayblazay8888 no but the judge was dead on about the original sentence. He should have never been released.

[@tonyg490]

How about getting out non violent offenders instead of violent ones?🤔

[@geometerfpv2804]

There aren't many non violent offenders left, there has been a lot of legislation for that kind of thing

[@pdpMASTERP]

This I actually agree with . Finally a sensible comment.

[@pdpMASTERP]

​@@geometerfpv2804absolutely false. I've been to prison, 85% of state prisons are filled with non violent criminals. Stop spouting misinformation. I know your a JRE fan but a single Google search says your totally wrong

[@mysticlegion8088]

Need to do research more thoroughly when deciding who to vet out. When I saw this guy's story it wasn't enough to warrant a release.

[@scrambledlegs423]

@@geometerfpv2804 this is a flawed comment to make. The prison system is way too complex to make such a bold claim like that. We have thousands of federal, state, local, and tribal systems. While in a state view, 63% incarcerated are violent criminal offenders. Yet, in federal prisons, nearly three-quarters (72%) of inmates are serving time for non-violent offenses. Where are you getting the idea that “there aren’t many left” what does that even mean.

[@GothPaoki]

He literally butchered the corpse.Bro didn't just revert to his old criminal ways he leveled them up 10 lvs.

[@raimesey]

I listened to a criminal psychologist talk about this and she said that they chop the bodies up out of utility; smaller parts are easier to move. Most people that do it are normally horrified at the fact but the ends justify the means.

[@kw8295]

Hell yeah! That's what I like to see! Wait... that's not a good thing to cheer about.....

[@nothingnew765]

​@@raimesey People butcher animals all the time, I don't think chopping up a corpse is that heinous. He wasn't sadistic or torturous towards his alleged victim, and if he "leveled up" I think using his cheap disguises 🥸 wasn't the way to execute that.

[@skepsisrollins1711]

@@nothingnew765 good thing you aren't a judge

[@mosalah3511]

​@@nothingnew765 sociopath alert

[@jamesm28]

Innocence Project lawyer Josh Dubin called Sheldon "a miracle" and complained that he was sent to prison for 25 years over "two stitches." In reality, Sheldon was an experienced drug dealer with a prior conviction, who pistol-whipped someone during an armed robbery - an attack that, contrary to the movies, can easily kill or seriously maim a person. Johnson said that his son "got into a fight with this Chinese guy" who tragically died. In reality, his son viciously attacked a random Columbia grad student, punched him in the face, and chased him into the street where a car killed him. Despite committing murder, his son served less than two years in juvie. A police officer testified he showed no remorse for the killing. Johnson's father, meanwhile, raped a 7-year-old three times, blaming the fact his wife wouldn't have sex with him due to his drug habit. A judge gave him just five years of probation. This is the family that Innocence Project trotted out as proof that the justice system is overly punitive and systemically racist.

[@fr7nkyph7llyj7ne5]

🧟🧟‍♂️🧟‍♀️🧟‍♂️🧟📺🤡🌎

[@gunkanjima3408]

I mean, the son didn’t commit murder

[@kane1748]

This moron trying to free guilty monkies lmao put him in prison if he likes them so much.

[@ChevTecGroup]

This the same dude that said "we can't let trump get back in the white house!" After talking about how horrible kamala is

[@jamesm28]

​@@ChevTecGroupI don't care about his political opinions, but thanks anyway

[@1984isnotamanual]

When someone doesn’t take accountability for their past crimes and downplay them and lie about them, THEY AREN’T REFORMED.

[@caselawcop7229]

I love how he’s changing the facts from the first podcast. “He got 70 years”, “He served 30 years”. He was sentenced to 50 (25 on one case and 25 on another served consecutive) and he was released after 25 years. He’s still trying to make this guy seem like a victim when he obviously is a predator. Every negative thing said about this guy is accurate. Race baiter even seems accurate considering his “client” was obviously not a victim of racism in this case or in his prior cases. As a member of the “arena” I know for a fact that criminals are manipulating bleeding hearts like him once they get in jail/prison so that they can get what they want. They have every single incentive to lie to get back out. It’s unfortunate that he fell for it.

[@truthhurts2879]

A criminally underrated comment. G_D bless you for having no scales over your eyes ❤

[@LUDWIG215.]

👏🏻💯💯👏🏻

[@dadillonful]

This comment should be pinned

[@JaymzGames]

“Who could’ve known he would do that”… maybe there was a reason he was sentenced to 70 years.

[@EgyptCraft-ky7bj]

Lol right like maybe the judge who initially sentenced him might of had a bit of an inclination

[@Dwightaroundyolips]

Exactly. Fuck this guy. He cries too much anyway

[@JL-eh6bh]

My exact thought lol I was like I guess even a broken criminal system gets it right every once in a while ​@@EgyptCraft-ky7bj

[@SoSo-c5b]

Prison turns you into an animal

[@TrevJ91]

@@EgyptCraft-ky7bj Hindsight’s 20/20. What about the judges who didn’t have good inclination and sent someone innocent to prison? You see the issue?

[@Northwoodschickenchaser]

Be cautious of the Innocence Project and people like Josh. He talked about a kid on JRE who "falsely" admitted to killing a girl in a drive by shooting in Minneapolis because he was pressed by the cops(hes still the main suspect 17 years later). His name is Tywin Bender and the cops were wrong by forcing a confession out of a teenager but he wasn't some innocent child who the cops snatched up because he was black. This kid was connected to multiple shootings, robberies, burglaries and assaults by the time he was a junior in highschool. I know this because I went to highschool with him and was at football practice when homicide detectives arrested him for the girl that got shot and personally know a few kids that got robbed by gunpoint by him. He's currently serving a 10 year sentence and deserves every minute of it and clowns like Josh Dubin think sociopaths like him deserve a second chance.

[@redsilverado76]

Great insight. It makes me wonder what motivates this Josh Dubin. Freeing a wrongly convicted prisoner with no prior rap sheet is one thing, but trying to free a career criminal felon is something else.

[@Freedom_is_better_than_safety]

Freeing unrepentant violent criminals is a hard no for me. And we have to look at individual cases before asking for prison reform. We say we should let out people on weed charges, but those same people most likely pled to a weed charge and did the time for the other charges they dropped so that when they get out they “only got locked up for a little weed”, therefore people are more accepting of them returning to society. There are VERY few people in jail for a personal sack of weed. It’s a tool that’s used to give people a second chance more than to keep people locked up. Sometimes they catch career criminals with weed but can’t get them on other crimes and they get them off the streets with a weed charge, but again it can be a tool. Criminal justice reform can’t be letting people out of prison that will reoffend, and a lot of work should be done to reform people while in prison. A handful of poorly run state programs and church ministries is all we have for that right now.

[@0ptimal]

Damn. It's like he doesn't look at anything but the singular case. Hmm. This reeks of attorney like behavior. How all that matters to the attorney is whether or not they can win, even if the defendant is guilty as fk. Like they just want notches on their belt, i hate that sht.

[@Northwoodschickenchaser]

The guy that I'm talking about was mentioned on an episode of JRE a few years back. Had I commented on it then I would've been trashed in the the comments. The shooting that I mentioned took place on in Minneapolis 9-22-2007 the case was dismissed because the cops f**ked up and the witnesses withdrew their statements out of fear.

[@dominick358]

@@redsilverado76 maybe josh has done some bad shit and feels guilty for it? Doth protest too much

[@TimothyMcVay]

Your audience knew, Ex cons knew, he didn't take accountability. "No one got touched"

[@i_dont_live_here]

You right, we knew.

[@matthewabln6989]

Yep. Knew a guy while in, found everyone's favorite landscaper, got out, now back in for life after catching the capital.

[@X862go]

Yeah, he took zero .

[@i_dont_live_here]

@ ima lil slow. He got out and took out everyones landscaper or he went to the houses of the people who were telling him about their favorite landscapers and took out the home owners?

[@RGuerra1980]

Dubin keeps blaming the justice system for Sheldon's behavior but the justice system was right in this situation.

[@eoinoconnell185]

100%

[@KryMoore]

Of course, he wears a small hat. What do you expect?

[@DottieParker-l6k]

It can be both

[@rebeccarakuza2845]

The system can still be at fault.

[@rebeccarakuza2845]

​@@DottieParker-l6kfacts

[@nbarealtalker]

It’s strange how they’re trying so hard to figure out why a violent felon committed another act of violence.

[@701delbronx8]

When he was on the podcast he said his father was incarcerated and his son killed a man when he was 12. This behavior is genetic.

[@tomas746]

Courts don’t consider propensity evidence for a reason. You should Google that and give it some thought as to why.

[@sleepercell1679]

Because they're liberals

[@samguarino6278]

the same ppl who believe that chomos and grapists can be “reformed”

[@I_Ace]

These guys dont change. A psychopath or sociopath dont change they only convince u they have changed

[@Theotherside_3]

“Allegedly” 😂😂😂

[@GnuReligion]

One of the fav lines in Letterkenny.

[@dizzlerz]

NoT fUnNY. A man LosT hiS liFE

[@user-pc9oj9ci1r]

It’s still Alleged, so he’s not wrong

[@FlowKio]

“I allegedly found this torso in his apartment’s freezer” -some cop probably

[@BOAYang]

Bro trying so hard to save face 😂😂😂

[@brianquint6126]

This is why criminal reformists are laughed at.

[@TEL250r]

I went to jail in 2012 now I have my own place and a little one don’t tar everyone with the same brush but it could be different in your country

[@ButchersBoys]

​@@TEL250rsame i went to prison in 2022. Have my own home now. Got certificates. Yeah it was a violent offence while i was on drugs but people like this idiot sheldon shouldn't tar the ones like us who made an effort to change. Fk ever going back inside. Im a hermit that would never bother anyone now.

[@oswaldrabbit1409]

@@TEL250r fair man, we need a balanced discussion surrounding this. However, this Josh dude is clearly pretty wrongheaded in his way of thinking. Seems like his answer to this mistake is, "Oh the prisons screwed their mental health up." No deeper reflection.

[@TEL250r]

@ mental health is everyone’s excuse for being a div iv got adhd and iv sort of learnt to deal with it 😉

[@krisf4969]

Well, actually, Sheldon really reformed..... that guys corpse!

[@Zenobell12]

This guy needs to realize some of those “unfair” verdicts were to protect the public of known criminals

[@dwm1795]

Not how the justice system is supposed to work.

[@deelowe3]

​@@dwm1795that's exactly how it works.. propensity to commit future violent acts is a critical part of sentencing

[@johnobrien5037]

​@@dwm1795 Certainly not how it is now in certain cities.

[@adoe2305]

This guy is a complete joke. It's dumbfounding Joe let's him on.

[@dannyboy5008]

​@@dwm1795 if you look at his rap sheet he deserved the sentencing. Unfortunate that someone had to die to prove he deserved his "racist" and "unfair" sentencing, but bleeding heart morons refuse to understand.

[@brycepurser9060]

Kinda hurts this guys whole argument 😅

[@chavinho7793]

Yeah unfortunately 😞 so many people DO have unfair sentences but shit that guy really fucked it up

[@EmilyRose0]

It hurts his ENTIRE SCAM ORGANISATION.

[@Ruder6163]

@@EmilyRose0Well they never said the guy was innocent, they just said he had an unfair sentence. If you look at his charges and what he was convicted of it’s true. Nonetheless, some people deserve that long sentence, they’re too dangerous for society.

[@stephankwapis]

Hurts it? Or, dismembers it…..😅

[@UnknownSlayze]

@@EmilyRose0thanks for capitalizing the end there, wouldn’t have understood you were being serious.

[@theangryconstitutionalist583]

"I kinda went into a hole after this." Get back in there, bruh.

[@ryhmeparvex6297]

its not his fault tho...

[@DaveSorenson]

@@ryhmeparvex6297didn’t he get the murderer out of prison?

[@nuthinnobody3357]

He came out of the hole not learning a damn thing. He should go back in the hole.

[@Droahh]

​@@ryhmeparvex6297 A percentage of that person's blood is on his hands... There's no way to dispute that.

[@minikilla3568]

@@DroahhI hope he stays awake at night knowing he got that man killed. I’d never wish that upon someone but you’re an actual pos.

[@mutaikipruto5393]

‘He didn’t let me down’. Yes he did and it’s largely on you. There’s some similarities listening to both of you, neither of you is remotely remorseful for what your actions have led to. You keep dancing around the word sorry whilst excusing the crime of your client and that’s an insult to the victim’s family. You midwifed that crime and the least you could have done is take accountability.

[@BruceTheDeuce85]

In his reflection he failed to see that. He minimized and downplayed the level of violence the man committed, pushed for the man to be released back into general population but didn't feel it was his place to ensure he was going to therapy 🤦

[@geometerfpv2804]

That was the big red flag for me, that they both acted like the violence the guy perpetrated wasn't serious. "He just got a little roughed up" kind of thing.

[@sleepercell1679]

Yeah he's Jewish no duh

[@markgarcia8253]

Looks like the Justice System was right about this case, ain’t it? 😂😂😂

[@Chuck-s9v]

They’re almost always right lol

[@azcoolin4273]

Not by a long shot 😂

[@mattkeith1180]

For sure, but sometimes they are wrong. Some times either side of this are going to be wrong.

[@Golgi-Gyges]

Allegedly correct

[@bryona5271]

Better to send 10 innocent people to death row than let one guilty person roam free

[@jopo7996]

Besides the body parts in his freezer and multiple other crimes, Sheldon is a good dude.

[@Rowsy91]

haha yeah besides all that stuff

[@trevorsalamander8711]

Yeah he’s a saint! Again ignore the history and cutting up the dead body of a man he murdered who apparently was begging for his life. He’s just a sad puppy.

[@dieffenbach12jeff]

Oh for sure. Suuper nice guy, kinda weird, but cool dude regardless

[@maxholmgren7936]

😭

[@notgonnalie1846]

ALLEGEDLY

[@MylesLong82]

Dubin definitely has no credibility anymore. That's a GIANT L on him.

[@JosChrisma]

He never had it to begin with

[@MylesLong82]

@@JosChrisma Not gonna argue with that lol

[@TehKaiser]

He doesn't know or doesn't want people to know that the drug world has murder as a tool for business. Not too different from organized crime. Heck, even that clean record nurse might be part of the drug business.

[@6ix664]

I disagree

[@TheDbaru]

That guy is not an isolated incident for TIP. They have gotten multiple people out on technicalities who were pretty clearly guilty...

[@illuminahde]

They harass the victims families too. They are an awful organization.

[@DarkPassenger]

@@illuminahde Yup, most activist organizations are.

[@jkee9760]

Many such cases

[@chillin_4_dayz662]

​@@DarkPassengercry baby little girl

[@illuminahde]

@@chillin_4_dayz662 You've added nothing because you have ____ to say. Know your role. 🤫

[@Alex-vm6ef]

The fact that this guy viewed it as a surprise shows you how tunnel visioned these people are, it is actually partially his fault for getting the guy out

[@SoloBoxer]

Josh deserves all the criticism in the world. Sorry not sorry.

[@periculummus]

try blaming everyone else involved in this also, and then put yourself out there so we can judge you as well

[@agomez4814]

@@periculummus why? he doesn't help let murderers out on the loose to kill again like Josh Dubin. Look into this case. Josh should take guys like this into his house when he gets them out and so should you.

[@beefcakeman1525]

@@periculummusdid you even make a point in your reply? I’m trying to figure out what your point is. Josh and his foundation don’t deserve criticism? They let out a criminal, fought for his freedom, and dude instantly committed a terrible murder, and I guess your point is that if you criticize them in any way, you’re the asshole lmao

[@personreanimation]

​@@periculummus is this Dubins burner? Lmfao

[@duckers5120]

@@periculummus Dude, he worked to free a man from prison who he believed was innocent, brought him onto JRE to tell us about how reformed he was, only for him to go and murder someone else and chop their head & limbs off and store them in his freezer. Are you fucking for real 😂😂

[@ts1977ify]

Sorry guys, you both fucked up on this one.

[@adoe2305]

It's not first nor the last.

[@alexpollock6932]

What did Joe do?

[@adoe2305]

@@alexpollock6932 He didn't do a second of research to know that the guy is a lying sack of ****.

[@justingagnier1394]

@@ts1977ify how? This is like saying you’re responsible for all the dumb shit the people you know do. It makes zero sense. I fucking hate hindsight douchebags.

[@BluntMoney420]

@@alexpollock6932gave a platform to a lunatic.

[@RoCdota]

How many other bad people has this man gotten out? He doesn't even care.

[@weignerleigner3037]

He worked for the innocence project. A organization known for getting violent blacks who ended white people out of jail. Probably every person he’s helped was guilty

[@rosihantu1]

He likes to watch the world burn

[@J_Allen3556]

Probably dozens. I don't know what it is but liberals adore criminals.

[@JSStuart100]

I can’t believe this guy’s back. It’s on camera and they’re still talking allegedly and this isn’t the first time they let guilty people out. This is insane.

[@fosterthedmt]

Dubin should be in prison at this point.

[@701delbronx8]

Their priority is to free black murderers. That’s it.

[@TheMcLeanster]

@@fosterthedmtin prison for what?

[@BluntMoney420]

@@TheMcLeansteraccessory to murder.

[@TheMcLeanster]

@@BluntMoney420 well that is just “dumb”

[@chimps-h3v]

I knew that guy was fucked up when he referred to a college student that his son murdered as “some Chinese guy” and got mad that his son was being persecuted

[@Ruder6163]

Well one thing about him is he wasn’t innocent, he just had a unfairly long sentence.

[@Sly_cptn]

Bad take bro, theres a reason he got 70 years ​@Ruder6163

[@iFreemind10]

​@Ruder6163 except he didn't have an unfairly long sentence. He just got a normal sentence anyone should get for what he had done.

[@Ruder6163]

@@iFreemind10 it was a life sentence for drug trafficking. That’s a normal sentence in your opinion?

[@theinmature]

@@Ruder6163 "For drug trafficking".... And a slew of other major violent crimes, but why let that get in the way of pushing a good narrative, right?

[@aaronkeener95]

If you didn’t help get him out. The other guy would still be alive.

[@tcizzi]

If Sheldon didn't kill him, he'd still be alive too. Try not to oversimplify a complicated issue.

[@aaronkeener95]

@@tcizzianother dumdum. How did he get out ? Who said he was a good man ? Who said he loved him like a brother ?

[@DaveSorenson]

@@tcizziHe did kill him. It’s not complicated.

[@tcizzi]

@@DaveSorenson right, that parts not complicated.

[@skepsisrollins1711]

@@tcizzi glad you got through that, were worrying us!

“The man had GREAT qualities.” - actual Joe Rogan quote just spoken

[@spawnofsatan117]

"It's not your fault" - another moronic Joe Rogan quote.

[@ThePinnacle415]

Hey cut Joe some slack, he helped get Trump daddy elected 😂

[@MarvinsVlog]

No one was shocked by this btw

[@aleks_jones]

Except this guy. Cause he somehow believes people who were career criminals and then spent 25 years behind bars are going to be upstanding members of society... Millions upon millions of people live their entire lives without getting arrested. Its not hard. There are plenty of people who arent criminals to help, not sure why we need to be advocating for murderers lmao

[@invertedjokerr]

no one but Joe lololololol

[@FlowKio]

Yeah he was even describing hurting people without caring who heard, what a psycho

[@Libbyyyyyyyyyy]

I don't even think Josh Dubin was surprised, I think he was more concerned with what Rogan and the media thought of him.

[@jayacosta6519]

All the ones who believe criminals over the law were shocked. They really believe the system is the problem rather than the person

[@Ichirpatbirds]

Anyone who has worked in any kind of criminal justice position would recognize Joh Dubin as a complete and total Mark. He is someone that criminals take advantage of (btw anyone locked up will say they're innocent. Josh is the type that believes them). He has a big heart but not much brains.

[@johnobrien5037]

Much like a prosecutor who has a "lock em all up" attitude or a case that will make them famous or has political connotations, the far left activism defense lawyers can become victims of their own ego, the cause and sense of importance, blinding them to what is right in front of their faces or even choose to ignore it.

[@drunkbatman4466]

Please stop platforming this dude. He is not fighting to get innocent people out of prison. He fights to get the guilty out.

[@majav15mg]

I think we can all agree he probably didn’t intend that to happen. Who in the bloody testicles would want guilty pieces of shit out free? Cmon. Let’s be fair.

[@TheQuantumCummer]

All to feel better about himself, listen to this guy, he was wrong and didn't own it just like Sheldon, instead he spent this whole time talking about how sad he is and his mental health, like bro who gives af someone died here

[@skillzorz101]

That's messed up, he has one guy get released that's a total sociopath. That doesn't mean that everyone that has ever been sentenced is A) Guilty, or B) Rightly sentenced. You're insane if you think any part of the government works perfectly.

[@EmilyRose0]

@@skillzorz101 He is still the wrong man for the job if he gets duped by that guy. I just watched a video of someone just breaking down his apprearance on the podcast and how he shown NO SIGNS of actual remorse or accountability. How he said "I can try [a normal way] or always go back to crime". The guy is sociopath and if you fail this hard in detecting the obvious signs at that age and experience as a lawyer you probably should not be doing this. Like at least have a unbiased team sign off on this. But the donation money flows in so there is no unbiased team there. They just assume everyone who talks to them needs to be out even the guilty like that guy. I would be curious in the details of his case and what lead to the "unfair" conviction. MAYBE there were people who read him right.

[@sleepercell1679]

​@@skillzorz101the reason you're in the justice system is because you're committing crime

[@apexvoice1952]

“Local White Knight helps release prisoner based on skin color and social brownie points- Turns out Harbour was the Dokes Butcher Bay”

[@frankie137137]

This guy should be run out of polite society. Shame on Joe for downplaying this.

[@sleepercell1679]

He's in it for the big paydays

[@FreedomInc]

Where is the polite society?

[@bluejohn1855]

Should’ve kept his ass locked up!

[@enniemeanieminnie]

Dude, stop promoting this guy. He does more harm than good. BTW: prison reform for nonviolent offenders is amazing, but this guy was trying to get mother out of prison who claims she didn’t delete her small child. AND if you took the time to listen to the guy he let out talking about how he was pistol whipping his victim… it’s obvious he wasn’t innocent. No one who is sorry fantasizes about their crimes.

[@fosterthedmt]

Absolutely. I understand Joe has loyalties to people he likes personally, but Dubin has got to go.

[@mbtravel7294]

Getting innocent people out of jail is bad? This one person was the only guilty person he dealt with. If you were falsely convicted, wouldn't you want someone to fight for you?

[@geometerfpv2804]

​​@@mbtravel7294It's not one person, you need to look into their cases. Don't just blindly believe what it says on the can. This is the one guy that ADMITS guilt that they dealt with. Obviously an enormous number of convicted felons claim they "didn't do it", that's why we use evidence, not their word. This group frequently gets people off on technicalities when they were very obviously guilty. They believe in the race narrative behind incarceration, and if you are a minority, they are going to assume you were treated unfairly even if DNA evidence clearly demonstrates you committed the crime (as has been the case with them multiple times).

[@Swaggedoutshorty]

@@mbtravel7294The man he got out was not innocent, he was guilty, but fought to get him released anyway. That single act is enough to ruin anyone’s reputation.

[@johnobrien5037]

​@@mbtravel7294 That is such a bullshit argument tactic. It's the same type shit you hear from open borders supporters as bad as the evidence is that it's a really bad idea : "So, wanting to help people get into the USA is wrong"? Gtfoh with that garbage.

[@simonreyna9477]

The guy is probably contemplating whether he is directly responsible for the victims life being taken. Which, in his case, is worth pondering.

[@jeremyweems4916]

He seemed so reformed 😂

[@babblingalong7689]

Well Sheldon did reform someone else.

[@DonAndrxz8]

@@babblingalong7689brooo 😂😂

[@MrMcgooOG]

The art of sharpening knives

[@adamwallace7638]

Dude still sounds like he’s in denial of the guy doing it, crazy

[@primeprince3747]

👏🏼 Yup, this guy is hopelessly optimistic about his business w inmates

[@chrischan9318]

"I'm so sad that the guy died" you let his killer out and you knew he wasn't reform and he was talking about being in the blood gang. You did this

[@TiesOfZip]

Dude never owned his shit when talking about what he did, and Josh minimized it too…. This was entirely avoidable

[@Floorbobro]

Bro says he's not responsible but he is... He got the guy off and he immediately killed a man. He keeps saying he was resentenced. Meaning the guy was guilty of his first crime and some could say it was abusive to sentence him for 70 years or maybe... Just maybe... The DA, judge, arresting officer and jury all saw the darkness and said this guy should never be allowed in polite society again. He should be 100x more careful unlocking cages in the future because there might be a good reason it's locked.

[@beachside_Reptiles]

Whether someone had a bad childhood or not, some people do not belong in society.

[@muddymonster7119]

Love how Joe is laughing about this "unfortunate" incident

[@samnero387]

Yeah, it's pretty sick. I'm not sure what he finds funny. It's demented.

[@chesscomsupport8689]

To be fair, the whole thing is objectively funny. Yes, it's also disturbing, but it is funny.

[@eoinoconnell185]

Sorry, but it is funny. It's an incredible own-goal.

[@thompson6223]

It’s a terrible and disgusting situation, but it’s kind of funny for anyone that is not Josh Dubin

[@ActualJusticeWarrior]

Who would've known he would do that? The answer is everyone, including the judge that originally sentenced him. Dubin let him play down his record on your show. He almost always trots out guilty guys onto the show & pretends they're innocent. It was only a matter of time

[@Thee-_-Outlier]

A criminal mind dupes a bleeding heart. Who woulda thought

[@findmeinthecarpet]

💯💯💯

[@mattstang3439]

Aesops fables covers this in pretty good depth

[@notgonnalie1846]

*would of thought

[@Thee-_-Outlier]

@notgonnalie1846 Actually, I meant "woulda" because i'm being informal, but it added a space. With that said, you're a moron because the CORRECT FORMAL grammar is "would have or would've". So, if you're going to be one of those grammar trolls, at least know grammar yourself. Embarrassing

[@Cautionary_Tale_Harris]

​@@notgonnalie1846 *would have thought

[@Christian.9198]

Prison doesn't make people want to murder. If it did then he would have killed someone in prison and never gotten out. This dude's mind is twisted.

[@nickpatches7740]

Dude has the worst kind of "you can't have an opinion unless you've done it" attitude.

[@ButchersBoys]

He's not wrong tho. I've been in the system locked away and feel guilt every day about what happened. No one who hasn't been in the system can say a thing until they've lived it.

[@nickpatches7740]

@@ButchersBoys That is such a closed mindset. People who haven't been in your shoes might not have the same experience as you but to say they can't offer any insight or wisdom or simply a differing perspective guarantees your views will be unchallenged and unchanged. It's literally ostrich syndrome. I'm not saying take someone who hasn't experienced those things and listen to them more, but to say they can't say a thing about it is absurd.

[@zerofox2030]

​@@ButchersBoysNah, that's bullshit. You don't need to be a pilot to know someone fucked up when you see a plane upside down in a tree.

[@zerofox2030]

@@ButchersBoys You don't need to understand the controls to know someone screwed up.

[@bobanmilisavljevic7857]

​@@ButchersBoys people can say what they want. No one cares about your jail house showertime

[@Yaarrr]

"I have a deep understanding of incarceration - I read this book" True expert right there

[@Thee-_-Outlier]

Bro, I had the same thought. Not only that he read it in college, aka peak liberalism

[@samstits8982]

And the book is about a guy who reoffended but he blames it on the prison system.

[@Brunette3030]

I had never heard this guy’s name, but the moment he said that I knew what to expect from him. Complete moron.

[@bobhurley1270]

Still blaming the fact that this guy was turned into a murderer because he was incarcerated for to long. This is a fucking joke. This guy literally fought to get a violent CRIMINAL out early, out him on a huge platform singing his praise, and he did exactly what got him locked up. Both Joe and this lawyer platformed a murderer. Full stop. Everyone who watched or listened to that episode knew this guy was all wrong. Stop making excuses for him and for yourselves. Own it.

[@the_beef4762]

Help NON violent offenders first.

[@PeterReeves-s6k]

Exactly so many people doing long sentences who are not a danger to society

[@eoinoconnell185]

EXACTLY.

[@Yosemite50]

What Bukele has done in El Salvador shows that living with crime is a choice. If we locked more people up, and kept them locked up, we would live in a far safer and happier society. But there is a massive cohort of people in this country who seem more concerned with protecting the rights of criminals than with upholding the right of everyday citizens to live safely. And this guy exemplifies that mentality.

[@23Robusto]

exactly

[@Dru-v9u]

Bukkake 😂

[@Yaarrr]

"Who could've known he was going to kill a guy?" He literally just got out of prison for killing a guy.

[@andrewrogers9236]

It was for armed robbery, not murder.

[@Mallardman795]

This is allegedly the Joe Rogan Experience

[@christopher7824]

Helping violent predators obtain early release is evil.

[@FreedomInc]

There are plenty of "violent predators" that dis nothing violent ever. If there wasn't so many flaws with these systems you love. This guy wouldn't be doing what he does. So jump in there and fix your systems. Start with how are people free when policed by government.

[@LDV8Foax]

Just because someone could be reformed doesn't mean it's worth trying.

[@geometerfpv2804]

Yes. It's compassionate, but helping to reform violent criminals is very, very low on the list of things our society needs. People need to realize that everything comes with a cost. Not everything is worth that cost. Just because "it would be nice" doesn't mean we should actually do it, people need to be realistic and pragmatic.

[@dacrd]

Justify it however you want but it is what it is.

[@joecool7606]

Contrary to common belief, it is extremely rare for someone to be in prison for no reason.

[@birderjohn3396]

It’s the insane idea that these violent people have in their heads about what respect and justice is. They truly believe they transcend the law in their application of ‘justice’ for perceived disrespect.

[@chriswilliams436]

The contrast between Joe laughing about this and Dubin being depressed makes this weirdly hilarious I can't lie

[@dai_505]

You let out a man who admitted to the crimes he enacted on some one else. Stop making excuses for violent criminals. He had no remorse for his actions. And just FYI, the recidivism rate for people with 20+ years in prison is way more than 1%. You guys all want to help the poor innocent criminal, and this stuff happens. Then you wonder what you did wrong....... What you did wrong was, you didn't help a guy who was in prison for drugs....... You got a violent person out. Help the drug addicts and people who are in prison for stupid non violent offenses.....

[@dledge1080]

He talks "Im guilty of giving a guy as second chance, he squandered it".. Really, just squandered it eh? No... He mur dered someone because you got him released. Thats far from simply squandering it.

[@MoveOverLady]

Don’t bring this guy around anymore. Mad creepy vibes

[@charliewaters5289]

They get guilty people out of prison all the time. There are of course false incarcerations but this creep gets anyone out he can.

[@blacknikespurpleblankie1354]

✡️

[@TheTrainstation]

i dont like him either. maybe hes in a bad place

[@nonperson1844]

Listen to how self righteous he gets when he talks about violent black crime. His cuckold political ideology is going to get innocent people killed.

[@samstits8982]

@@blacknikespurpleblankie1354 the Talmud opens your eyes

[@adambrooker5649]

Sounds like he was a sociopath to me... Stop making excuses for what he did. He was lying the whole time

[@unscriptedmemories2969]

“The man has great qualities.” It’s rare that someone doesn’t like a narcissist, Joe. They are charismatic and know how to manipulate you. Like he did to you and apparently still is doing.

[@nuthinnobody3357]

One of Joe’s many mind boggling takes. I love him, but boy oh boy does he have really terrible judgment on certain issues.

[@KarlyB1122]

He has blood on his hands too. His crocodile tears won’t save him. You were wrong, you indirectly caused someone to die, instead of becoming the victim due to guilt try understanding why people are in prison to begin with. Don’t just blindly state it’s jail that made him that way either.

[@Boristhebulletdodger86]

2 grown man discussing the excuses of someone cutting a head off another human. The guy had a history of bad decisions. Then they say “I’m not making an excuse for him”. Umm just cuz you say it ain’t so doesn’t make it so guy.

[@sandoncrowder7839]

70 years is to keep the world safe from a murderer, doesn't matter if you feel like it's excessive.

[@nickmcdonald6731]

I vouched for him, He's reformed... he kiled someone. That's not my fault at all...

[@yuppp457]

dude got somebody murdered

[@deadpoolshelby4]

“Its not to make an excuse. He did it… if he did it.”

[@jre2775]

Wild 😅 I remember listening to this and thinking, “this dude doesn’t sound rehabilitated”

[@annielane22]

Me too!

[@brianharvey9765]

"Allegedly" lol

[@coywarrior71]

Say you comment within the first 30 seconds of the video without saying you comment within the first 30 seconds of the video! You’re supposed to come after you watch the video you dummy!

[@sethwright3295]

I want to get behind this guy then he says the recidivism rate from people resentenced and released after 20 years incarceration is less than 1% at 6:58. He threw out ridiculous stats like this in prior interviews

[@anniejanelash]

I also don’t understand how that statistic would help his cause. He believes more than 99% of them will offend again but also thinks we should allow them back into society? Am I missing something?

[@sethwright3295]

@ recidivism means the odds that they will commit crimes again. He is arguing that only 1% of that group commit crimes upon release. There are no statistics to support that. He never cites his sources, he just says things under the assumption that there will be no pushback. I like Joe but I wonder at times why he does not push back on false statistics like that

[@BobbySquirta]

@@anniejanelashyou don’t understand the word recidivism. He is stating that 1% of prisoners who serve 20 years or more end up going back. 99% stay out

[@maxholmgren7936]

⁠@@anniejanelashbro it’s the other way around

[@notgonnalie1846]

Sounds gay tbh

[@mikemorrison5232]

I guess Joe's bullshit detector was on the fritz that day

[@stevenhuffman9032]

Sorry dude. I’m sure you didn’t mean it, but you’re responsible for releasing a murderer. That victim’s blood is on your hands.

[@periculummus]

yeah pretty sure he's aware of that. but don't worry, all you keyboard cowboys will hold him accountable and completely OVERLOOK all the good he's done in other situations.

[@drd1077]

@@periculummus"pretty sure "all the good" you really only see the good. even when he's causing people to die. teach us your oh so virtuous ways

[@periculummus]

gladly! please sign up for my course

[@geometerfpv2804]

​@@periculummusThere are many, many instances of them letting out people that are pretty clearly guilty because they have this in-built belief that our system is not just. So no, I don't think we are really overlooking "all the good they do". People do not get unjustly jailed very frequently. Especially in today's age, people want hard scientific evidence of the crime. If that hard evidence exists, the person should go to jail. This org often gets people off even in the presence of hard evidence.

[@manuelalejandrocorrea8851]

@@drd1077multiple people died?? lol y’all made him sound like a serial killer, yes is horrible man shouldn’t be on the streets release, but common man there is a lot of people who are actually NOT in prison and currently doing atrocities in the streets, n I just don’t see how Josh is a bad person, especially when his cause is good sure one of the cases didn’t end up well, but doesn’t that happen in EVERY field?? U gotta fail at least once no one is perfect

[@M21655]

This dude is such a fraud

[@notabag]

Im happy hes addressing this.

[@Rowsy91]

Same

[@raqb496]

He made excuses for Sheldon and he made excuses for himself.

[@Tom-s9k1l]

The spin coming from this guy is crazier than the Democratic party 😂

[@OmarScruggs]

Im watching this clip....allegedly

[@theutopitarian]

Thats why sitting down and talking with someone for a few hours doesn't tell you all you need to know.

[@MadHatter015]

Hope this is a lesson that not everyone is worth fighting for.

[@FlowKio]

“Who could’ve known that he was gonna do that?” Really? “Thomas Smalls” spent how long in prison for attempted murder and robbery and he also was a crack dealer as a kid and tried to stab his teacher. He talked about some of it on your podcast c’mon Joe that’s too thick headed even for you

[@Jm-Gonz]

You guys obviously don’t understand the term sociopath, every one who knew Ted’s buddy thought he was a stellar human being, intelligent, articulate charismatic , ect

[@Lordmattg]

Maybe he should start fighting to increase sentences for repeat offenders and keeping them locked up instead of releasing them.

[@Tom-s9k1l]

This guy has less accountability than Sheldon did for murdering someone..

[@Darkrider6970]

Some ''mental health counselling'' isn't going to cure a legit psychopath

[@friskydingo9024]

Haha wow, looks like he should have served that 70 year sentence after all.

[@mikeh024]

Theres a saying in the first responder community. “For every person you save…there is someone you cant”

[@solaireastora5394]

Don't bring josh dubin on anymore

[@Rowsy91]

Its so sad because he was honestly one of my fav guests. Seemed to do really important terrific work But so hard to trust the people he is saving now

[@historyrepeat402]

Why? Do you know how many people’s lives his last week of guest are responsible for? Or do you just care this time

[@bfunk9572]

We are not perfect, and to say do not invite this man on whose intentions are good, you, sir, are wrong. You have made bad choices in your life. Should you be exiled?

[@oldmanballs]

This dude had blood on his hands

[@periculummus]

@@bfunk9572 agreed. a lot of keyboard cowboys around here. everyone needs to shut up, go home, and be better. myself included.

[@dapowerlifter09]

Just because you get someone off on a technicality doesn’t mean they are innocent. Going to get some good people free and bad people free as well.

[@Niobium23]

Wait… you got a killer let out early, and can’t take any personal accountability?!? You were key, in that person being beheaded. So maybe if you had not been meddling, dude would be alive. You did that. 👍

[@KeatonMcCoy]

Josh Dublin needs to find a new career. He has got someone killed now. Playing around with these gangs and inmates trying to get them out. Leave them there.

[@Rundvelt]

"Who would have know he'd have done that." I don't know Joe, maybe look at the fucking trial? The fact that you're laughing at this is mind boggling. I don't think you'd be laughing if it was your daughter raped and killed because some lawyer who has a moronic ideology got someone who should have been in prison out.

[@ult1ma_inv1ctu5]

Dude was a " Super Predator "

[@AquarianNomadic]

I see you Hilldog! ❤

[@wm3138]

Someone didn’t “loose” their life, it was taken from him.

[@NorthLVLowRoller]

That dude showed who he really was even on the podcast, surprised Joe took him out.