Josh Pate On College Football Playoff Expanding To 14 Teams (Late Kick Cut)

College Football Playoff expansion is on the horizon again and we could see major decisions coming this week as it relates to the future of conference structures, the Playoff itself, and revenue sharing. On Late Kick Live Ep 491 Josh Pate discussed what this means for fans and how soon we could see action on matters we've only heard talked about for years. Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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[@LateKickwithJoshPate]

Keep the show free - SUBSCRIBE to the channel and LIKE the video! - JP

[@RobertThames-zone6]

You are the goat 🐐 Josh thank u for all the great interviews and everything you do

[@raytorres8050]

@LateKickwithJoshPate Unfortunately, this was going to be the next outcome. Younger fans don't remember the Bowl Coalition and then the Bowl Alliance. Then you had the BCS( which I am starting to appreciate more and more every passing day), although it had its flaws, it did get the two best teams most of the time. But of course, that wasn't enough. This expansion falls on the majority of schools that felt that they were not gettingba fair shot at playing for a natty, but the truth is, a majority of the schools don't havevthe resources or the talent to compete for national championships. And they felt like with an expansion, they would get their shot. But unfortunately, that was their undoing. And know, a lot of groups of 5 schools may have to come to the reality that to survive, the may havevto either separate from FBS and doing there on separate playoff, go down to FCS, or some might even stop having football all together. NIL and television money changed everything, and it's very heartbreaking.

[@AceManning18]

I never thought at the time that I would ever feel this way, but I long for the days of the BCS and conferences that made at least some sense. Hell, the weirdest thing geography wise in 2005 was like, Arkansas in the SEC? Maybe Arizona in the Pac 12? Everything made sense. Bring back things making basic sense in college football.

[@dangerousdylan6262]

Yea I remember fans being pumped when their team got into a New Years 6 Bowl when now their just disappointed.... I won't go as far to say that I miss the BCS system tho 😂

[@davidcraft4636]

BCS was biased and sucked.

[@eryo637]

Yeah, I wasn't a fan of the biased BCS "voting" a team into a championship game either, but 12-14 teams is too many and unnecessary to get a group of solid top teams to play eachother to crown a champ.

[@stevenfoster9027]

@@davidcraft4636FSU fan here, let me tell you about things that are biased…

[@jaypee9812]

​@stevenfoster9027 at least you have something in common with Boise State, Auburn & TCU. Remember when they went undefeated in the BCS era & couldn't be in the national championship game?

[@givemeabreakdoc]

“Those people in that room” care only for 1 thing………more money. Absolutely nothing else.

[@jakemeeker5745]

There’s a lot of such rooms unfortunately

[@JoeCab]

Doesn’t everybody?

[@timebomb42]

In the comments of every single major sports Network announcing this change, I have not seen a single person that actually likes these results. There's been people that have been hopeful, people that think it will be interesting, but not a single person that actually likes the changes that are being made. The fans hate it...... It's just that simple.

[@DevinHoyt]

I actually know a lot of liberals that love the fact that there's a college football playoff also they love the fact that kids get payed more then coaches also I'm not interested in it at all actually I liked back when your season was the playoff and if you lost 1 game you were done period, now we will get a 5 loss sec team in a playoff game just for the income

[@brandonjordan4596]

@@DevinHoyt I hate when people just spew nonsense. NIL money pales in comparison to the multimillions head coaches make. Also, even with it going to 14, which I am against, we are not going to see 7-5 SEC make the playoff. Stop making shit up.

[@TheLemon420]

@@DevinHoytI agree

[@irishfan9891]

Tying these thoughts in to your "hated teams" video... in olden days, you only had to root for a single loss to probably keep a team from claiming a title. Two losses for SURE kept them from said title. With the 4-team playoff, two losses also meant that the team you hated was out of it! Now, there's a safety net. There's a reason basketball fans don't freak out over a couple of losses... but the freak out among football fans was what made the sport great!

[@famouskev5589]

It’ll never end. March madness starts next week, there’s 68 teams in the field and there’s still a “bubble” of teams who’ll feel screwed for not getting in. Maybe 4 teams is a little extreme in a sport of over 100 teams, but how many years are there more than 4 teams with legit shots to win it? Once every decade or so, if I had to estimate. The 4 seed gets blasted like 3 out of 4 years.

[@TheLemon420]

You’re correct. Last year was the only year the semifinal games were competitive, and people were still mad about being left out. The playoff model doesn’t work in CFB like it does other sports.

[@famouskev5589]

@@TheLemon420 Josh says it best, it’s stupid to act like Tulsa and OU play the same sport. Or Akron and OSU. Western Michigan and UM. They don’t. It’s cool to give them a seat at the table, so 8 teams throw 1 G5 auto in there for fun but they don’t win and they won’t win. 6/8 teams max is my preference.

[@TheLemon420]

@@famouskev5589 100% agree. CFB is a tiered sport and a lot of people can’t accept/understand that. I would love it if we realigned conferences like Josh did in a segment a week or two ago, where there were 7 power conferences with no more than 10 teams, and then they got automatic bids to an 8 team playoff with one G5/Independent bid. There’s a way you could do playoffs that would keep the integrity in the sport but what they’re doing now is a bastardization.

[@patrickdezenzio4988]

March Madness will eventually expand to over 100 teams.

[@user-ch8wl3jr2t]

"The love for the sport is really the only safeguard that we have built inside us to make sure we don't do something terrible to the sport" ... so true

[@ThatGuyOnTheInternet2023]

8 teams would have been better.

[@TheRayfield77]

It was the perfect number... which is exactly why they skipped it.

[@eryo637]

Thank you! I thought the same thing. 12 is even too many, but 14?? It's going to water down the in season importance of games. More game does not = more interest and viewers.

[@BluntC0nversati0n]

Exactly

[@patrickrogers9689]

It might be a better number than 12, I don’t know, but if we’re doing 12 let’s at least let’s see how 12 works before we do something else. I personally think 12 is a good number given how many FBS teams there are, but my biggest point is, let’s at least see how it works in practice before we tweak it.

[@michaelmerck7576]

Eight would have been the ideal

[@Head-ck4hu]

As an Alabama alum, the regular season is only about seeding.

[@scotthamilton598]

Lets see how that goes this year

[@CadillacDeMille]

I’ve always believed that football is one of the few sports that shouldn’t have byes in a playoff

[@jasonsteele9580]

Everybody gets a trophy generation.

[@jexselzayasjr5626]

The older millionaires are the ones voting for this.

[@nobudgetfilmsthemovie7767]

They should play 30 games in a regular season then have a conference championship tournament with all the teams in the conference then play a 64 team playoff for the national title

[@kevinbond8966]

Sad part is there's a group of casuals who would cheer this on.

[@Peytonwilliams18]

Should have done 8 teams

[@dangerousdylan6262]

8 was the magic number.... 5 conference champions and 3 "at large" bids... or 4 conference champions and 4 at large because the pac 12 and acc might disappear lol

[@jdcarmona33]

​@dangerousdylan6262 but someone will get left out and say it's bs. Like a 3 or 4 loss sec team

[@ramspencer5492]

Or maybe even just 6!

[@damm41]

Agreed.

[@user-io9hz9ns9y]

I truly believe this. Oh, what could've been. RIP Cfb as we knew it.@@dangerousdylan6262

[@twitchentropy7786]

JP your sarcasm is pristine!

[@gundam8896]

the playoff should have happened decades ago the problem are the power conferences wanting all the money and access to the national championship it didn’t matter if the BCS, Bowl Coalition, Bowl Alliance was still around the SEC, Big 10, Big 12, ACC don’t want parity in the sport which would require equal revenue sharing for the mid majors and equal access to the national championship for the mid majors

[@mr.crossing5384]

I think they should either do 8 or 16 teams. 14 is just a weird number for a playoff bracket. As long as the playoffs are fair between conferences I’m fine.

[@kengraham6288]

I was always good with 8 if they expanded. 1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, 3 vs 6, 4 vs 5, and they would play on New Years day top 4 bowls, Orange, Sugar, Fiesta and Rose Bowl. Winners would play in Semi Finals the next week which would rotate each year and then the following week, the Finals.

[@anthonyclark9545]

agreed, 8 is the best

[@brandonjordan4596]

What would you do with Conference Championship games?

[@HercuLync]

@@brandonjordan4596 I liked the rule that the conference champs got in with the best of the group of 6 with only two teams picked by the people that want to put OSU and Notre Dame in every year. I don't understand teams rushing to create super conferences with the new rules. I think they are trying to ruin college football.

[@user-ql8by9sz4t]

What happens if the playoff players decide not to play unless they get a major cut? They aren't under contract!

[@Landood]

Better move rivalry week to the middle of the season soon. Last game of the regular season? Against the team you most likely hate most? Starters on the playoff berth team sitting without pads. Sounds so so wonderful doesn’t it?

[@givemeabreakdoc]

Making CFP a bigger joke than it already is. Another money grab that has absolutely NOTHING to do with, “giving more teams a chance.”

[@Cyptoking33]

It doesn’t matter if it’s a money grab. It will literally give more teams a chance.

[@TJ89741]

I want more teams and upsets to happen.

[@givemeabreakdoc]

@@TJ89741 well, you’re not gonna see any.

[@givemeabreakdoc]

@@Cyptoking33 no it won’t. No team below 6 will EVER win. Ever. They literally have no chance. Which is why they lost multiple games during the 12 game playoff. Because they’re not good enough to “have a chance.” In fact, they already “had a chance.” 12 of them. They failed.

[@givemeabreakdoc]

@@TJ89741 well, you’re not gonna see any.

[@kennymoore1698]

Essentially makes the regular season only about what seed can you get now.

[@Guknowit]

Well yeah.. No different than trying to make a NY6 bowl game.. Now they all get a shot at the title. I'm all for it, but it should be 16 or 24 like FCS.

[@23StudiosSports]

@@GuknowitNo it shouldn’t. That would be logistically impossible. You want certain teams to play 16-17 games?

[@Guknowit]

@@23StudiosSports What are you talking about? 😂 A 16 team playoff format doesn't change the amount of games played from the 14 team format, it just means everybody plays. A 24 team format adds a whole ONE game. With the top 8 teams sitting out in the first round. A regular season game may have to be dropped in favor of this kind of playoff format. However I'm all for more games.

[@23StudiosSports]

@@Guknowit So like 100 teams get 1 less game so the top couple can get an extra game in… yeah that’ll be agreed to. Will the season start earlier? How would that work? Would it go later? How would that be possible with the new transfer portal era?

[@Guknowit]

@@23StudiosSports Lol! You think the little schools have a voice now? Considering the NCAA is losing control as the governing body of College sports, there is nothing stopping these schools from losing their routine regular season. If anything we'll probably get more games whether you like it or not. For everyone's sake I hope you don't work in logistics 😂 One only needs to see the examples of other leagues as Mike Leech loosely said.

[@robertlane8876]

I wish it was the old days. It just felt different. It was really personal, and absolutely you're one of us, or you're not, and now it seems that those feelings are kind of gone. I'm going to embrace what we got instead of complain about what we lost thats still my team and still your team whatever team that may be

[@scottyclayton2501]

I loved the 12 team playoff when first purposed. I loved the idea of the 5 power 5 champs one G5 team and really good at larges. Loved the PAC 12s influence on the playoff. But I don’t even know what the best format is in this new realignment but it’s not to go up

[@brandonjordan4596]

Most people don't realize but 12 teams was actually perfect because it preserved importance in Conference Championship games. 8 teams while a better number for a playoff actually would have completely kill those games.

[@scottyclayton2501]

@@brandonjordan4596 100% agree even without the PAC 12 the power 4 plays for the 4 byes. Best system if I had to choose

[@happynotredamefan3736]

@@brandonjordan4596 Conference championship games shouldn’t matter any more than any other game. Getting a better ranking because you won a conference just rewards team for being in a weaker conference

[@brandonjordan4596]

@happynotredamefan3736 Most teams do not have a choice which conference they belong to, unlike Notre Dame. All they can do is win their conference.

[@HercuLync]

@@happynotredamefan3736 It also allows for teams that play in tougher conferences to have a better shot. A two loss SEC team vs an undefeated ACC champion. I take the SEC team 9 out 10 times. Florida State wasn't winning anything last year even with a healthy starting QB.

[@pcarnold9]

How soon till players opt out of playoff games?

[@di114n2]

If they’re team is around the 8-14 seed range they most definitely will

[@StephonLove208]

Can’t wait!!!

[@TheMCJ2011]

Very soon. Try 2025

[@frankcristell692]

When 3 plays 14…blow out, 4 plays 13 …blow out, 5 plays 12 …blow out, 6 plays 11…blow out. The 7v10 and 8v9 will be great. 2nd round 8 or 9 vs 1 blow out. 7 or 10 v 2 …blow out 6 v3 good game and 4 v 5 good game. 😊

[@jakematerne]

Look everyone it’s nostradumass

[@TJ89741]

Wow aren’t you smarter than everyone else

[@frankcristell692]

Just saying no more than 6 teams are usually going to actually have a chance to win it all. Please don’t be a wise guy😊

[@TJ89741]

I love this. Eventually it’s gonna go to 32. Trust me this is gonna end up just like Basketball

[@g.holland4862]

If you mean the college sport I once loved and no longer watch, I think you’re right.

[@mikefredd3390]

We still get mis-matched bowls right?

[@JakeKalvin-fo2eg]

8 teams with first round being on campus and after the normal 4 team pattern with the regular season being like the old 11 game season, with the 90s conferences would be better maybe minus the big east or maybe a more competitive big east in football.

[@sethriegls9760]

The money aspect is getting out of control. I watched one game last year, Ohio State vs Indiana, and they had 5 commercials during the 1st quarter alone. I turned it off. One commercial for every 3 minutes of football is nuts. It is only going to get worse

[@patrickdezenzio4988]

It won't be long before you start seeing patches on player's uniforms signifying who is paying their NIL. Imagine NASCAR at the college football level.

[@rogerallen2307]

I love it let’s go we need a 20 team playoffs

[@jonathanbenton5142]

Most years with only four teams they couldn’t get the semi-final games to not be blow outs… what makes anyone think a 2 vs. 11 matchup will be any better? I think some bad football is in the future.

[@timothyhingham3672]

LoL. I got a you tube short in my feed below this video saying why don't cars has 14 cylinder engines?

[@nomadjurdun]

I was happy when they went to 4 teams just wish they had clear criteria for how they select the teams. I would love to see 6 or even 8 teams but more than that is just going to take away from the game

[@briannichols4856]

Eight teams sounds good to me

[@user-wp3cy3fl2j]

A playoff with between 1-3 teams that actually have a chance to win it all and 11-13 teams that don't have a prayer, at least most years. It's a scam to make more money and the fans who will pay a high dollar to go to the meaningless playoff games, which will be most of them, are the people P.T. Barnum was talking about.

[@GeorgiaBoyBoomer]

Thank you for the paper pop. My eyes were getting heavy.

[@billrhoades8926]

There are only two reasons to expand playoff beyond eight teams - greed and stupidity!

[@TheLemon420]

I don’t even really care about CFB anymore in this state. I hope this drops views and ratings and it eventually changes back somehow in 10 years but man is this soul crushing.

[@drchomesolar]

How long has the FCS had a Playoff? Ok

[@patrickdezenzio4988]

The only way this expanded format will work is to end all cupcakes. No Power 5 team should be allowed to even sniff an FCS team. If the emphasis is to have better matchups during the regular season without killing chances to play in the playoff, they need to enforce that no Power 5 team like Ohio St ever plays the Citadel. I'm not bashing Ohio St, it's an example of all Top 20 teams. Florida comes the closest to doing that next season where they only play Samford, everyone else is a Power 5 team. But everyone else mentioned as a CFP contender next season has 2 cupcakes on their schedule. If they are going to expand the playoffs, I want to see these teams remove those cupcakes and add Ohio St vs LSU and ND vs Alabama and Georgia vs. Michigan, something other than cupcakes.

[@JSCONCH]

Sec and Big 10 should withdraw. Create an exclusive playoff with maybe a few out of conference invitations. All games except championship should be on campus. All games on Saturday, and move the darn post season 3 weeks earlier

[@TrentSLucas]

Why not just make it a 64 team playoff, and the regular season games count as part of the playoff, then we can use a computer modeling system to determine who the top 2 teams are. We will call it the Bowl Championship Series. It will be great.

[@jexselzayasjr5626]

BCS BCS BCS

[@wtk6069]

8 is best, but 16 is better than 12 or 14 just to keep a simple, clean bracket with no byes.

[@jzda1slabrider852]

You're right it's going to take away from the regular season some of those games met a lot and I think 14 is the limit definitely not past 16

[@TJ89741]

They’re gonna go to 32 $$$$$ talks

[@Bamaboy_7]

I think 6 was perfect number. Gonna give teams to much room for era. Plus rigging the game becomes way easier with bigger formats

[@shybone6833]

It’s simple TV wants the NFL model!

[@kelvinwells3500]

TBH there will still be complaints about the Teams in the 15th & 16th slots deserving a shot to get in. We all know they have no chance of winning the ship. 6 would have been the perfect number. Year in Year out there are 6 Teams talented enough to win it.

[@kevinbond8966]

This year yes but most years there isn't even 6 teams.

[@mr.crossing5384]

It’s not about 15 and 16 arguing to get in, it’s about ensuring that the team’s that deserve to get in will get in.

[@kevinbond8966]

@@mr.crossing5384 it's about money. Nothing else.

[@jexselzayasjr5626]

The teams that don’t lose the regular season combined with strength of schedule DESERVE TO GET IN

[@Wheaties444]

We are so close to having a 64 team playoff. Finally my team has a chance!

[@TJ89741]

32 would be perfect.

[@TheMCJ2011]

Who’s your team?

[@Wheaties444]

@@TheMCJ2011 the pigs haha

[@TheMCJ2011]

@@Wheaties444 Arkansas?

[@Wheaties444]

@@TheMCJ2011 haha yessir!

[@d.weathers]

I love it ! A lot of great games in our future

[@patrickrogers9689]

I don’t generally agree with Josh on his takes on playoff expansion, but expanding to 14 slots before we’ve even seen how 12 works is just rank idiocy. Given the number of FBS teams, and the way conferences are currently set up, 12 is a pretty good number. But even if there’s a better number, we should at least give 12 a few years to see how it actually works in practice. We’ve seen quite a bit of 4; we know how it works. We think we know how 12 is going to work, but there could be something that crops up that we didn’t anticipate. So let’s get that figured out before we make any other changes.

[@lynnbrizendine9258]

Them extra playoff games will be more meaningful than the bowl games we have now. And more entertaining. Most likely with less opt outs.

[@HercuLync]

Bowl games have been a joke for decades.

[@turdfurgison149]

To go beyond 4 teams was fine. I was tired of watching an Alabama invitational. Now, there needs to be a limit.

[@T-ChillSilverandSuch]

College football as we know it is dead, buried, and gone… we now have semi-pro football and then pro football.. sad days ahead of us… bring back 2007!

[@yoyoyoyoyo3499]

It's always been semi pro it's just now in the open

[@T-ChillSilverandSuch]

@@yoyoyoyoyo3499 I respectfully disagree. This is a different level. 17 year old kids are skipping senior seasons of high school for a check.. what happens when they blow out a knee 2 years in? They’re screwed.. money is the root of all evil and that evil is plaguing our sport..

[@RD-wg9em]

@@T-ChillSilverandSuchwhen that happened before they’d lose the scholarship and get tossed to the wolves if they couldn’t afford to stay in school. Now they’d at least have some windfall. Some aspects were better, Some were definitely worse

[@T-ChillSilverandSuch]

@@RD-wg9em true. I just hate to see the game change so drastically and so quickly.

[@RD-wg9em]

@@T-ChillSilverandSuch I agree there. For me though it comes back to the ncaa, especially with NIL, They could’ve made concessions but decided to fight compensation and transfers in the courts and it blew up in their faces. They refused to take 3 steps when they had to chance and got forced to take 15 as a result, creating this mess

[@jamesmassey2089]

When Josh talked about getting on the playoff "bus", I expected him to compare it the the insane, purple "Knight Bus" from Harry Potter. Seems like a lay up.....

[@rickw6065]

Money money money

[@wnmeta6973]

I have always believed 8 was the right number. I think throughout the 4-team playoff we saw that there were always about 5-6 teams with a legitimate argument to be in the 4-team playoff. So at minimum it needed to be 6, but at six you might as well just add 2 more and make a full quarterfinal round, because although 7 & 8 typically dont have argument to make 4 team playoff they generally are considered big brands and good teams that could win a quarterfinal game or even have a long shot at the Natty. 12 is too many and 14 is pretty much the same. At 12/14 teams there are teams in Spring camp right now who know they have a virtually guaranteed spot in the playoff. My mind goes to Ohio State and Georgia. It is almost certain that those teams will finish in the top 2 of their conference this year, which in a 12 team format the B10 and SEC are getting no less than 2 teams (more likely like 4 each). 8 teams keeps importance of the regular season while allowing access to all legit contenders (ususally about 2-3 legit contenders with 5-6 who deserve a shot).

[@newyorknole2225]

What incentive does an SEC/B1G team have to play tough out of conference opponents? Michigan secured the #1 spot by playing on one in the OOC and the B1G just got better. I expect more patsy opponent scheduling from the P2. The reward just isn't worth the risk.

[@hurricane7124]

I feel like the playoffs should expand from 4, but there shouldn’t be auto bids and it’s expanding to much, 8 or 12 is fine to me but we haven’t even had 12 yet and they expanded to 14

[@RedbeardInBluegrass]

I was/am in favor of an 8 or 10 team playoff. 12? Weird but ok maybe. 14...2 years after the 12 team and whatever extra hoops to guarantee more SEC & BIG10 spots & money (fyi my team is in the sec and will likely benefit from all this BUT)...dumb and unnecessary.

[@tjstakes167]

Fr we haven’t even seen 12 I’m just praying they are like wtf are we doing and go to 8 or some shit

[@johnkelley2117]

this wont stop there either. they will add those teams they want from the acc and big 12 to finish those conferences off and its just them and notre dame.

[@RadioStaring]

There's no teams in the Big 12 that the SEC and Big 10 want anymore. The Big 12's best chance of survival is to be the "filler" to give the SEC and Big 10 variety.

[@TJ89741]

They’re gonna go to 32 and the NCAA will cease to exist

[@longarmsgiraffe0955]

Josh - I agree with you on most everything you've said. But I don't necessarily agree with your argument against "the journey not the destination." Let's compare to the college basketball NCAA tourney. Do people care how many championships you've won? You bet. But they also care very much about how many Final Four appearances you've made (or Elite Eight, and to a lesser extent Sweet Sixteen). Is George Mason ever going to win a National Championship? Probably not. But they sure as hell made the Final Four that one time. I'm not all for expanding the playoff, but it will give more teams the ability to 1) make the playoff, and 2) make an unexpected run that they wouldn't have previously been given the chance. As an Iowa fan I understand that winning a National Championship is (at best) a once in a lifetime experience for me. But if we make the playoff every 7 or 8 years and maybe unexpectedly advance further than expected a few times? That's also valuable to me.

[@g.holland4862]

Football and basketball are very different sports.

[@brandonjordan4596]

@@g.holland4862 Doesn't change the point he is making.

[@brandonjordan4596]

Yes! Thank you! It's about access not easiness. While uncommon, we know that upset in football do happen. That's why we watch the games! I don't understand why some people in the media act like it never happens. When that upset does happen it will be huge for that school, for them it will be like winning the Natty even though it may be one game.

[@nickkyg]

The remaining (respected) ACC and BIG12 teams will be swallowed up into the SEC and BIG10, while the ones who just made the jump to P5 over the last 10-15 years will be relegated back to Group of X conferences. then they have the NFL-fication they have been fighting for, two conferences, and screw the schools that cant hang. I'm a UGA fan, and I always knew the argument that expansion creates a safety net for the top teams was valid and is something people are going to grow to hate more than any short format. And I knew my team would be one that likely would benefit from it more than most. I was still against the realignment, consolidation, and expansion. We will reap what the expansionists sewed.

[@timebomb42]

Also another point, has there ever been any time in the playoff era where there's more than five teams capable of winning a national championship??? There's going to be more blowouts, there's going to be more beatdowns, and in the end the same 5/6 teams that we always thought could do it, will be the ones that end up doing it.

[@SurferRC]

Yes we have every year they just werent allowed access which is the problem

[@Robotron2084psn]

My favorite part will be the games on premium streaming.

[@timebomb42]

@@SurferRC okay I've been waiting a while to get back to this comment, using last year as a basis do you think anyone else besides the four teams in the playoff AND Georgia, were capable of winning it all??

[@SurferRC]

⁠@@timebomb42fsu, ohio st to name a couple, thats already 7 capable teams. Add ole miss oregon maybe mizzou or arizona and lsu they all could compete this last year!

[@timebomb42]

@@SurferRC I sincerely think Ohio state was not beating any of those top five teams, their offense last year just could not compete on an extreme level. Florida State without Jordan Travis was a shell of itself regardless of how you feel about them getting robbed of a playoff spot. Ole Miss got completely obliterated by bama and georgia, LSU could barely stop a terrible Wisconsin offense, an oregon's defense could not stop explosive passing attacks. None of the teams outside of the top five last year would have been capable of winning at all, they all had glaring flaws.

[@cjon3006]

Q: What happens in this thought study... when a OSU. Beats a GU In out of conf... or a UU beat a PSU in out of conf... or Miami beat a Oregon out of conference. A: Total chaos, and im here for it

[@HercuLync]

Nothing. 14 teams allows for the sports writers to put in their favorite teams even when they have 2 or 3 losses. Those games don't matter.

[@cjon3006]

@@HercuLync "Those game don't matter" ... Have to disagreed w/ you on that. Every game matters, especially head-to-head matchups... ie UT over Ala 23'

[@HercuLync]

@@cjon3006 Not with 14 teams. The UT loss isn't as crushing if it doesn't put the national championship dreams in jeopardy.

[@johncarroll1577]

Josh Pate for chancellor of college football.

[@mikejohnson9586]

55 years watching college football has lost my interest, and I was a huge Tide fan before the NIL, portal and CFP expansion destroyed the pageantry.

[@HercuLync]

Saban loved coaching college football until the NIL, portal, and CFP destroyed the pageantry.

[@LuigiL75]

Yeah...the ONLY thing that the NCAA has ever gotten from me is my eyeballs!!! I don't go to games, I don't buy merch and if a game isn't readily available on TV, I just watch the highlights on KZbin!

[@justanornalintrovert514]

I’m just happy about the matchups every other division does playoffs it was only a matter of time the head of the group sees the tail.

[@efromdavis5726]

Trying to PLEAZ EVERYBODY 😮 14 team CFP college football will start in July

[@ncj687]

I’m stoked. This will be fun, honestly.

[@kevinbond8966]

The playoff itself will but the regular season will suck.

[@AndrewSmith-ck2kl]

It’s never going to end until they have ran this sport into the ground and squeezed every dime they can out of this once great sport.

[@jeremiahgreer4735]

They're ruining football

[@ThatGuyOnTheInternet2023]

Absolutely.

[@MrLigmenarxis]

Dafuq, you talking about? College football has been the best it has ever been. Unless you're a Cinnamon roll fan, those guys can go suck a big one 😂

[@wapiti128]

So what your saying is you're scared of Boise State kicking your teams ass.

[@jasonwalters5478]

Love the 12 team playoff but not 14. I don't understand why 32 NFL teams can have 16 teams make a playoff but it isn't ok for 130 teams to have just 12 teams in a playoff.

[@captaincruloc3200]

Regular season.....for seeding. No more win or out rivalry games. No more win or out big time out of conference games. Last year, Michigan knocks Ohio State out at the end of the season......now, Ohio State is in. If Bama had lost to Auburn last year....they'd have just dropped in seeding. Georgia losing the SEC title game....just would have dropped in seeding. The kids are mainly only worried about playing time assurances and how much they'll get paid.....the executives making these expansion deals are only worried about how much they get paid. Regular fans just want the games they've always had, with the meaning they've always had.....but that is being taken from them. College football is dying quickly. What we have now is not college football.

[@aaronbayles1946]

I am fine with going to 16 or even 32

[@JoeBlowyaAway]

College football has always been about preseason records that get a head start based on bs option. Some bs conference entitlement. Prove it on the field with the crossover of conferences, just the best teams. Cream rises. Don’t see a problem with it. Tv production gonna be the bees knees too! Let’s f’n go!

[@danielgilliam7775]

I completely agree. Now regular season games like OSU-Michigan and Alabama-LSU are meaningless. I bet nobody’s even gonna watch them anymore

[@MarkHicok-vr5lx]

I don't understand why anyone would not like seeing more football games every year. Gives more teams a chance. We like watching the NFL playoffs. I don't hear people complaining about that. There would be upsets similiar to march madness basketball. With the injuries that effect teams chances every year. Florida State probably would have got upset last year by a higher seeded team since they lost there Qb.

[@BruceRichwineJr]

If you’re a guaranteed first round pick and are not one of the top seeds, why would you risk playing these extra games and take an even bigger risk of injury? Since money drives the players now, don’t expect them to stick around for a so called player either.

[@MrLigmenarxis]

14? Lets be fking honest 😂 if college football could be year round i would send in a check to make it happen. This basketball and baseball shit ain't cutting it for me 😂

[@USSFlorida]

im all for 12 teams but not any more

[@rockerfarm6445]

Maybe Mike Leach actually convinced Sankey that a 64 team playoff is best, with different reasons though

[@lukefletcher4689]

It is a P2/M2/G5 world within P4-G5 setup New CFP Payouts starting in 2026 Per Yahoo SEC: 23.5M per school BIG: 20.9M per School ACC: 13M per school ND: 13M Big12: 12.1M per school G5: 1.8M per school B10/SEC is getting 29% each ACC is getting 17.7% B12 is getting 14.3% G5 is getting 9% ND is getting 1%

[@rvail136]

I doesnt much matter. The ACC is officially a 2nd tier conference. No team from there will qualify below #10 if at all.

[@AdrenalineJunkie25]

Paper pop

[@AustinJabali]

It's astounding how disconnected media executives are. In my other interest of nerd movies, you see ballooning budgets because more investment equals more return right? Gonna be hard for Joker 2 to make a profit now 😳

[@StephonLove208]

And then when those ballooned budget movies flop they will punish us by raising their streaming service prices, going to theater chains and demanding a higher cut of ticket sales which will end up causing theaters to raise ticket prices in the end.

[@briannichols4856]

Josh...Ure Mee-Ma was smart

[@ramspencer5492]

14 feels like the absolute limit... And it's quite a stretch already... Going beyond 14 would really damage the sport... Instead of just change it to a degree.

[@SurferRC]

If they had started with an 8 team format like they should have we wouldnt be in this mess and the pac12 would still exist!

[@RadioStaring]

Larry Scott killed the PAC-12, not the lack of playoffs.

[@xrpliquidity8629]

Just like NCAA basketball, let’s have a 64 team playoff. 🤪

[@patrickdezenzio4988]

So no matter what Notre Dame finishes, they get almost as much money as an entire conference?

[@06Umiami]

Hasn’t the NFL been doing that for the longest time? It’s called wildcard.

[@leonela4214]

New era, new t-shirt. 4 tean playoff and prior white t-shirt. Black t-shirt era is here...

[@coreysalter3421]

They should let the Top Two G5 teams play a play in game. Winner vs #1 in next round.

[@brandonjordan4596]

Agreed!

[@AzraelHaze]

I saw nothing wrong with the BCS.. conference alignment needs to be better. Power 4 schools shouldnt be able to play FCS schools.

[@WarDaddy72]

It just basically throws the Sept season out the window. Like you said , they will put in the ones they want no matter what and the outliers will be left out. College football Golden Age is officially OVER!!!! Its the age of greed and FU#$ the true fans of the sport.

[@Nathan-ct9eh]

So youre telling me we could boycott, lower ratings, and they move back towards a reasonable setup? Cheaper tickets at games, perhaps? 🤐

[@user-kk9nb3we1w]

Let me understand this, Vanderbilt and Mississippi State are going to get 21m a piece and Notre Dame 12m? Indiana, Illinois, Rutgers, Maryland are going to get 9m more than ND? And who would believe 14 teams are worth having in a playoff? Who was #14 last year? Worthy of a playoff berth? Oh please.

[@sarasyson2147]

After 4 minutes im lost i don't know what he's talking about 😂😂😂

[@jeffferguson4637]

Its all about the $$$$$$$