Josh Pate On Whether FSU Should Opt-Out Of Orange Bowl (Late Kick Cut)

FSU was left out of the College Football Playoff with the CFP Committee selecting Michigan, Washington, Texas, and Alabama instead. On Thursday night Josh Pate took time on Late Kick Live Ep 462 to react further and respond to a viewer question about whether the Noles and Mike Norvell should consider opting out of the Orange Bowl game. Could unprecedented steps on the front end of this equation lead to equally unprecedented responses on the back end? Should the Seminoles have been punished for losing their star QB? Will we see something like this ever happen in the future? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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[@LateKickwithJoshPate]

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[@42322]

Blah blah blah. Make a real playoff where every team has a clear path otherwise stop acting like post season games matter.

[@Waywardfolk]

Opting out would make them look scared of Georgia

[@artbagley1406]

FSU is UNCONQUERED, it's their trademark born of the Seminole Indians' historic reputation (they were beaten, but it was done with subterfuge and blatant racism). If FSU does not play UGa, it denies the reputation it's earned through years of effort and performances by the players, coaches, fans, administrators, and others. DO NOT OPT OUT, FSU!!! If you get beat, you faced the opponent, unflinchingly. WaywardFolk says loads in that brief post.

[@georgejackson2583]

I don’t think they care. The anti-ESPN sentiment is so great in the fan base that they want to cost the network money anyway they can.

[@stocktondavis5492]

James Madison actually is playing in a bowl game. The Armed Forces Bowl

[@scotts9476]

Most coaches would never give up the extra practices/time with their team to build for next year by opting out.

[@Curveball]

Do all the practices, and then opt out. (This coming from a Miami fan, FSU was screwed over.)

[@robmartin5849]

Coaches get a bonus for bowl games.. so keep that in mind

[@Curveball]

@@robmartin5849 Well, there could be other rules involved that I do not know, but if a little extra money was the only factor, I'd opt out. The HC isn't in danger of losing his job yet.

[@ericlofroos2405]

Opt out after your practices, or better yet the night before the game.

[@jrizz591]

@@robmartin5849 I'd hope that if FSU actually was considering opting out, Norvell would go to the AD first and ask permission and understand the consequences fully.

[@donaldalderman2424]

FSU needs to place some blame on the ACC commissioner. He was the main one who blocked having the 12 team playoff this year. Screwed his own conference. Would could have had the 12 team playoff this year.

[@dougshaffer5524]

FSU does blame the ACC commissioner, but this should not have impacted them. The argument was between teams with 1 loss, but now this just looks bad for what this playoff is really for a National Title or a TV ratings Invitational

[@dougshaffer5524]

I also think this game will happen, but without a lot of the starters on both teams. They could play ultimate Frisbee and I'd watch

[@VainRain69]

The CFP chairman was also from NC State so the idea that the ACC was left out because of SEC bias is entirely stupid.

[@dougshaffer5524]

@@VainRain69 Brother of Tim Corrigan VP of production at ESPN. ESPN who is 3 billion dollars into the SEC. Hell you don't even have to have a conspiracy to think that looks questionable.

[@blacksand5882]

FSU fans are sick they skip right over their own commissioner had a hand in it and voted down the 12 team playoff this year but always wanna bring it back to Bama not Texas or their sorry ass offense just that we had one lose foh go cry

[@chriswilliams3084]

I think a lot of the people who say that bowl games never mattered didn't experience what college football was like back in the 70s, 80's, and most of the 90s. And one of the reasons bowl games mattered is, quite simply, there were not very many of them. For example, in the mid to late 80s, there were approx. 15-18 bowl games. Back then, you would have several teams with a 7-4 or a 6-5 record (this is also when there were 11 games in the regular season) who didn't get a bowl berth. And January 1st was a day of glory when it came to the big, and most prestigious bowls. The Fiesta, Rose, Orange, and Sugar were all New Year's Day bowls. Playing on New Year's Day actually meant your favorite team had one hell of a season. Hell, before the Conference Championship games existed, it was even possible to win a share of a conference championship, and still not be invited to play in one of the major bowls. Today, there are 43 bowl games. 43!! And if there are not enough 6-6 teams to fill all the slots, a team can be 5-7 (like Minnesota this year) and still get invited to play a bowl. So, if your only exposure to the bowl games has been in the last 10-15 years, I can see why some might think bowl games do not matter.

[@joshuahaberer4410]

And then someone with half a brain went you know what’s more entertaining than playing for 6th place, a tournament .

[@charltonmccullough4494]

It didn’t matter then. It didn’t matter now.

[@Daniel-79]

They probably would have been a 4 seed if Georgia wouldn’t have lost. So this is essentially the matchup they would’ve had if things had gone their way.

[@jrizz591]

The most definitely would not be the 4 seed even if Georgia lost, even though I think they should have been. Rankings would have had to have been Georgia, Michigan, Washington, Texas for this to make any sense at all, had UGA won. CFP comm showed they were going to put Texas ahead of FSU no matter what happened in ACC Champ

[@replynotificationsdisabled]

their way??? or the right way? if you think bama deserves their spot then you most definitely voted for biden or thinks he is the most popular president of all time. hate to say it, but it's the exact same thing.

[@19MarkDavid]

Most likely 1Georgia 2 Michigan 3 FSU 4 Texas

[@jrizz591]

@@replynotificationsdisabled I do not think Alabama should have had their spot at all. If it were me it would have been the 3 undefeated conference winners and then Texas. I'm just saying the committee showed that they had Texas as the 3rd best team in the country per whatever (B.S.) reasoning they chose. So if UGA had won they would have stayed at 1 and Texas would just slot back to 4

[@jrizz591]

​@@19MarkDavid How does Washington get left out over Texas? And how does FSU stay of Texas in this scenario but fall behind them once UGA lost?

[@4fanintexas]

FSU rejecting an Orange Bowl invitation would be understandable based on the perspective you provided. However, they would also be giving up their shot at beating Georgia and showing everyone the Committee got it wrong. Then again, if they play Georgia and get blown out, it would prove the Committee was right. Definitely some risk involved. I personally think FSU would get destroyed by Georgia but we can't know unless they play the game. Great insight and thoughts as always Josh. Carry on brother.

[@pleite77]

Unfortunately it’s going to be 2 completely different teams playing each other. We will be lucky to see a hand full of starters on both teams playing.

[@AustindGreen]

The committee doesn’t care if they got it wrong. Good or bad business decision it was still a business decision and the fix was in long before Jordan Travis got hurt.

[@GMAMEC]

@@AustindGreenif there’s a fix, it would have been much easier to let UGA win the SEC Championship.

[@2332Stephen]

I keep reading these comments. Fsu winning or losing against GA has nothing to do with if they deserved to be in !!!...they could've had it 1. Michigan. 2.washington 3. Fsu..4. Texas... fsu is 14 point dogs against ga..what would they be against washington?? +7.. we know Georgia's is better than Washington..so you're telling me the game wouldn't be close against washington??!?.. losing or winning against GA doesn't change anything..because GA is better than all of those teams. Fsu is only 14 point dogs.. you and I k own fsu wouldn't be 14 point dogs against washington..so why are they not in. If vegas thinks that fsu is as bad the committee thinks...Georgia should be 3 + touchdowns favs...which they are not..which means fsu..could go toe to toe with washington. Which makes this an injustice!!!! I honestly think texas shouldn't be in..and let alabama and georgia fight foe the 4th seed..but you know..if you put fsu as the 3rd deed where they rightfully belong..they.may actually beat washington and then get blown out in the championship and that's what the committee doesnt want. The mstchups were already rigged from the start..if not having your star qb was that big of a deal..the committee should've bumped them down when he got hurt. They created this mess and now they gotta live with it. All of their decisions were hypocritical and stupid if you ask me.

[@TimmyPruitt166]

They don't want to play UGA cause they know that's a butt kicking and all their crying is for nothing. FSU has done the same to smaller schools for 40+ yrs then cries when it happens to them.

[@Bham67]

If we’ve reached a point where a game is considered meaningless unless it is for chance at making the playoffs, then that is really sad for sports. What happened to playing for the love of the game…each game…for the competition. Play for the majority of seniors who are not going to the NFL and would like, for one last time in their life, to suit up with their teammates and compete and play the game they love.

[@richardhurley9885]

Nick Saban said this exact thing would happen back when they went to the playoff & he asked the question “is that what we want college football to turn into?”

[@brendonmcmillan5589]

@@richardhurley9885 and yet Saban is the one who has gotten the most out of it. What is it 2-3 times now they didnt deserve to be in the playoffs and still got in

[@user-rq7ym1jr9z]

​@brendonmcmillan5589 how is winning the sec not deserving? I don't care who your school is or what non sec conference they play in. The sec is better. Always has been always will be.

[@showtale8325]

Gone ...those are all gone . Gone long ago really. The last decade this has virtually disappeared

[@brendonmcmillan5589]

@@user-rq7ym1jr9z The SEC was not dominant this year. Sure, I agree they are better conference. However, in this scenario FSU is more DESERVING than Bama. Bama lost. they just happen to lose at the beginning of the season. If they lost they last game of the season but won the SEC the next week i bet they wouldnt be in. But if you want to go the route of best teams get in then take out the other teams and put in UGA in there as well bc i know theyre better than most those top teams. In fact if you play UGA bama again i bet they would win. but thats just a what if. Bama won the SEC but lost against texas. FSU went undefeated and won they conferance and they even said only reason was bc of backup qb. Which is insane since bama be struggling all year long with starting qb against worst oppenents than FSU

[@dudeliberty]

Between NIL/transfer portal/opt outs they hay effectively ruined college football. Great job guys

[@georgejackson2583]

I agree with you 100%. FSU fan of 50 years btw. But, when you said "bowl season was one of the single greatest happenings in the sporting calendar, period and now its an afterthought", I clapped. Imagine if there were no playoffs. Alabama is playing Oregon in the Sugar. Washington, Michigan in the Rose. Texas, FSU in the Orange. Georgia, tOSU in the Fiesta. Greatest bowl season ever. Regardless of results the debates would echo for the rest of the century until those who were wee lads during the season passed into stardust. Plus, no way Johnny Wilson is telling us he's not playing in the Orange so he can impress in the Senior Bowl.

[@mattc.4697]

And no clear best team. That's the down side.

[@user-rn6hr1qw3l]

You just named off a way better bowl match up than the cfp could ever think of , TRUTH AND FACT!!

[@joemckim1183]

And youd have a LOT of contested champions. Notre Dame and Florida State in the early 90s. ND beats FSU but loses to Boston College the next week. ND and FSU both only have 1 losscand ND beat them head-to-, head but somehow FSU was the team playing for the championship.

[@synitarthrax5618]

I used to take vacations to watch bowl games. Now, with players opting out it's no fun any more. As for FSU ... they won the swimsuit competition but lost the beauty contest and make no mistake. CFB is a beauty contest and what happens on the field is secondary. This is the fault of the AD's who instead of having a real playoff, decided they liked the polls, computers and/or committee picking teams instead of playing it out on the field. FSU didn't make it because the AD's and conference commissioners created rules they no longer think they have to live by since it worked against them. Now, FSU is outraged because the rules didn't work for them and are crying about a system they helped create. Cry me a river FSU. You created the system, you supported the system and now that it worked against you, you want to quit and take your ball and go home? Go for it but put the blame where it belongs. It's not the committees fault. It's the AD's and commissioners fault for supporting this system. Don't let them put the blame somewhere else.

[@evanstair1262]

I am in total agreement. Leonard Fournette of LSU and Christian McCaffrey of Stanford opted out of bowl games 2017. I believe Fournette was first. I didn't blame them, as it was a financially smart and personal decision; however, it was a disappointing. Like you, I also took vacation days just to watch bowl games. I looked at the teams as LSU-lite and Stanford-lite that year. Now the practice of opting out is so common bowl season has become boring.

[@buddymeredith2514]

These are young men in their late teens - early twenties. I guess no other adult is going to tell you that this is very likely not the last time in life when you are going to do everything right and still not get the result you want. What you do next is what matters.

[@JohnMcmillin-br8tk]

Well said

[@tacticalmattfoley]

Absolutely. The sad thing: most of the folks crying and complaining are adults.

[@MDO419]

Best comment I’ve heard in a long time! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@nohandle000]

This guy right here 👏

[@brixtonrentz2752]

Jan 6th

[@sansari12]

Thanks Josh. Very good segment and so true.

[@geoffdunn9273]

Great point on *where anger should be projected. The problem is not with one of the four teams ranked above them, but rather with a system that was already recognized as broken. If they opt out, it will be perceived as all talk. But if they play Georgia, they risk being proved wrong. So whether they opt in or opt out essentially rests on how much they *actually believe in themselves.

[@greenwave819]

they know GA gonna dog them

[@risner0816]

Idk bama bias is pretty crazy I think it is toward a certain team and should be that one teams gets gifts all the time

[@ckhthd]

The school should not opt out--but every single player should opt out individually a few days before the game. That way nothing can be held against the school. After all the committee has already said FSU can not play without a starting QB.

[@MuddyGunns]

FSU will not opt-out. Norvell is a class act and he will have the team (whoever is playing) ready to play. Both teams will be without their players, so it wont be the same teams that would be playing in championship playoff.

[@BrettJorden87]

Uga's second string can whoop FSU 1st string

[@kittenluvzu]

What's the point in watching then?

[@Krambo87]

@@BrettJorden87 FSU will beat anything that GA puts out on the field. It won’t be pretty and you won’t think they could pull it off halfway through the game. But you know what, they’ll make their adjustments and they’ll grind GA down and pull out a W at the end.

[@jahendrix1543]

@@Krambo87absolutely delusional

[@Swampdonkey796]

@@Krambo87 that’s funny as hell

[@rexgoodheart3471]

The bowl season used to be MAGICAL. No more. The playoffs ended all that. One of my favorite sports memories was New Years Day, 1966, when the top 3 teams in the country all lost. First, LSU ended no. 2 Arkansas's 22 game winning streak in the Cotton Bowl, 14-7. Then UCLA stunned no.1 Michigan State in the Rose Bowl, 14-12. And then Alabama capped off a very exciting day/night by finishing off no. 3 Nebraska 39-28 in the Orange Bowl. Those bowl games were all meaningful in the days before the playoffs. No longer the case sadly. Seriously, do bowl games even have a future unless they're turned into playoff games? As an LSU fan I just can't see why Jayden Daniels, Malik Nabers, or Brian Thomas should risk their futures by playing in this year's bowl.

[@doctorgoldbud1321]

College football was totally different about when I was a kid how do you say love watching all the bowl games now everything's too damn politicized

[@charltonmccullough4494]

It was never magical in the first place

[@dougsholly9323]

Not only should they opt out of the Orange Bowl. But they should make the announcement 1 day before the bowl so they can't get a replacement. As a reminder, I despise FSU.

[@user-rq7ym1jr9z]

I guess they should've voted in favor of 12 team playoff before the season instead of against it. I love how uninformed people and media trolls try to make a perp like fau who fucked over 8 unknown schools before the season started. Is now a victim and they're the only victim

[@JamesKelleyJr]

A M E N. Just don't show up. Leave Georgia suited up in the locker room.

[@jeffreybonner6895]

Keep them from taking an embarrassing L to Georgia

[@rodMFcason1]

Nobody cares

[@JamesKelleyJr]

@@jeffreybonner6895 yup thats THE reason. :p I am not a FSU fan far far FAR from it. I still hope Georgia takes the field alone. Maybe they can run a two hand touch game with the band and the cheer squad.

[@andyp5306]

For more nuanced take then I expected. Hats off. I wholeheartedly agree.

[@halfthe]

literally all of the GO5 teams start the season knowing they don't have a shot at the cfp and their biggest hope is a NY6 game. The media and certain fans are the ones pushing this narrative that bowl games "don't matter". These are football players and as there is a game, then it matters! Especially a bowl game!!

[@clarencecheney7256]

You would be teaching these young men the wrong lesson

[@stevenmcpherson8167]

I'm an LSU fan. But I like and respect what Mike Norvell has done and I really respect the team. At first I took thought they should skip the Orange bowl. But now I realize if they really want to prove themselves deserving, they should play the game. Their backup will have gotten a months practice and their defense is off the chain. Don't quit on us fans FSU. There are lots of us rooting for and sick and tired of the politics that go on at ESPN and the Playoff Selection Committee. I only watch college game day because of Coach anyway. I like Desmond too. The rest of them, especially Herbstreit can jump their smug best 4 teams butts off a cliff.

[@702TifosiGambler]

FSU should show up to the Mich x Bama game with field passes for the players and coaches.

[@Bibby334]

Correct

[@jkmarshall3553]

Yes

[@topherjones3064]

Great idea. Then they could watch champions play. Might help them.

[@Brycejugs82]

For what? Lmao.

[@mark_a_vigil]

James Madison is already playing in the bowl season on 12/23.

[@zacharyscott6779]

It's the extra practices why I think not too many teams would ever opt put. You can't put a value on how much those end of year practices mean for some teams.

[@mimixownzall]

Throwing a fit and quitting when things don't go your way is not a path you should be even be contemplating, Josh.

[@ccpbux]

FSU’s coaching staff and players need to focus and prepare for the Orange Bowl like it is the NC Game. If they go in there and beat UGA, especially convincingly, their “snub” argument will be 110% valid, and even more so if a one loss Texas or Bama wins a Natty. However, if they get dominated by UGA, they have no argument. Take care of business, first and foremost!!

[@aldohar6175]

I’m hoping that they do it!

[@TimmyPruitt166]

U sound like a rich spoiled 4 yr old! FSU has done the same thing to smaller teams for 40 yrs then cries like mitches when it happens to them.

[@dublindog8038]

This is sick, sick and sick some more if FSU does this! If I am the Orange Bowl, immediately go get another team... Who would be worthy... JMU or Tulane, or even North Dakota State... Have some fun if Florida State pulls this crap! Also I say that all Sports Writers promoting this, ESPN Heads, The Athletic Director, The Coach, and others should be Fired Immediately for hurting College Football! Every Recruit should go somewhere else, Every Player should Transfer... This would be the greatest Disgrace in College Football History... I so will never watch another FSU Game ever ever again... and think they should not be allowed in the NCAA if they pull this crap! You are a fake fan if you are hoping they do this!

[@erikochoa-kmoch4397]

The result of what actually happened I think is a lot more impactful than if they opted out. 63-3 has opened so many people's eyes

[@colcarle.durhamsr.1933]

Good take.

[@ethanspraggins6542]

So i do have a legit question. Other than avoiding injuries what do they gain from this? Is it just to stick it to the committee? Bc im sure thatll turn out well for them in the long run. Do you know what they SHOULD do? Beat ts out of Georgia if they can and prove to the world they shouldve been in.

[@jacetiller3156]

It would avoid any opportunity for the committee to justify their decision. Also the team would go out as undefeated champions. The committee deserves to reap what they sowed. (Texas fan btw)

[@88jaspersimmons]

You answered your own question...avoiding injury. Why put your body at risk for a sport that doesnt care about you.

[@TheMCJ2011]

“Beat ts out of Georgia”??? Lmao that’s literally not possible.

[@ethanspraggins6542]

@@TheMCJ2011 didnt say it was, but you should try!

[@dublindog8038]

This is sick, sick and sick some more if FSU does this! If I am the Orange Bowl, immediately go get another team... Who would be worthy... JMU or Tulane, or even North Dakota State... Have some fun if Florida State pulls this crap! Also I say that all Sports Writers promoting this, ESPN Heads, The Athletic Director, The Coach, and others should be Fired Immediately for hurting College Football! Every Recruit should go somewhere else, Every Player should Transfer... This would be the greatest Disgrace in College Football History... I so will never watch another FSU Game ever ever again... and think they should not be allowed in the NCAA if they pull this crap!

[@shanebrannon3155]

Regardless of their reason for opting out, if they do so it’ll be publicly viewed as dodging a beat down from UGA. Which would validate the committee’s decision.

[@jacetiller3156]

According to the committee, Georgia isn’t one of the four best teams, so how does this game have any relations to their decision. Is Oklahoma better than Alabama because they beat Texas? What it would do is leave a stain in the history books of the committee.

[@jblake3143]

FSU should play Georgia and beat them to prove to the committee they deserved to be in and approve the committee wrong oh wait yeah you’re right it’s easier just to opt out I would too if I had to play Georgia 😂

[@jacetiller3156]

@@jblake3143 Is Oklahoma better than Georgia?

[@michaelwebb325]

Wrong. It won’t even be the best players from either team.

[@Zachgotgainz]

@@jacetiller3156no Oklahoma not better I hate they removed them off the schedule

[@tubeyouR305]

CFP Committee got it right, and they followed their bylaws and selection criteria. Everyone seemingly glossing over the fact that FSU’s strength of schedule (SOS) was #55 in Nation. Alabama’s strength of schedule was #5 FSU beat LSU in 1st game of Season 45-24. This was FSU’s best win of the season Alabama beat LSU 42-28. This was Alabama’s 3rd best win of season Bama beat #1 Georgia 29 game win streak and back to back champs And they beat (10-2) Ole Miss. FSU’s strength of record (SOR)was #3 Alabama’s strength of record was #4 FSU had 224yds of offense vs (5-7) Florida, with Tate Rodemaker And Rodemaker has been in this FSU system for 4 YEARS. Then FSU only had 219yds of offense vs Louisville, with Brock Glenn Without Toafili’s first play of second half going for 73yds, score would have been 9-6 FSU. And another point, in Tallahassee with Jordan Travis, FSU barely beat a very mediocre (7-5) Miami team that was starting a True Freshman QB. AND** that true freshman QB was driving for the game tying score, got a first down and suffered a compound fracture of his arm. FSU escaped a possible loss But after that game, FSU fans didn’t want to hear any excuses from Miami fans about them, having to start a True freshman quarterback, and him breaking his arm. How about FSU barely beating (6-6) Boston College 31-29? (Jordan Travis) Or FSU going to OT with a (8-4) Clemson team? (Jordan Travis) Or FSU leading 10-7 at halftime vs a (3-9) Pitt team, only finishing with 24pts. (Jordan Travis) FSU fans never can see both sides of the picture they only ever see their side .

[@pete49327]

Bama felt snubbed last year, with TCU getting the 4th seed nod. Bama put it behind them and took care of business by stomping Kansas State in the Sugar Bowl. TCU obliterated by Georgia, nuff said.

[@lesliebrown7417]

Haha, excellent point.

[@cynicalcb]

TCU did win the first round against Michigan first though

[@mimixownzall]

@@cynicalcb Funny how everyone seems to miss that... they act like they got blown out in the first round.

[@barrybrowner2157]

Alabama had two lost last year guys get real.

[@Sealambert]

TCU had the 3rd seed, which they should have lost it since they lost their conference championship game. But the committee allowed them to retain their ranking despite the loss.

[@TurntTrojan]

I agree that FSU got screwed , but now is their chance to prove they belonged to be in the playoff. If they win it will prove their point. I think they may be worried they will get blown out

[@Zedbie]

It feels like "jump through the hoop so you can claim you deserved to belong" only for ESPN talking heads can complain that UGA wasn't really present, UGA didn't really want to be there, and so forth.

[@tjwhizzy8437]

Would YOU be satisfied with making your point if the prize was still denied to you? Would a moral victory make YOU feel better? Put yourself in the shoes of these players - ESPECIALLY the seniors or guys who knew this was going to be their final year. No one who is being totally honest with themselves would say that they would be completely fine with a moral victory in this situation.

[@treavorphipps4544]

Playing this game, win or lose does nothing but enrich the very people who screwed them.

[@blacksand5882]

FSU was not screwed the we’re overrated all season because of Travis, their conference turned down going to a 12 playoffs this year and the acc commissioner was head of the committee foh

[@jakeemforeman2449]

@@blacksand5882Move Around with all that trolling smh 🤦🏽‍♂️.

[@jesselancaster7]

I hope they do!!!!!!!!

[@robertschwalger4775]

They should just not show up and not tell the bowl. See the committee scramble.

[@josephallen5712]

If the Coach was a real teacher, he has a perfect life lesson for them. The lesson being, life is not fair, and what you do when life knocks you down, you get up, and fight to the bitter end or to sweet victory.

[@greedg.i.l.m6593]

Coming from a person who didn't get SNUBBED 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 u can't make this shit up

[@thewinddb]

If FSU wants to stay undefeated this season... then they should opt out of the Orange bowl and they can use not getting a playoff spot as the excuse.

[@dublindog8038]

This is sick, sick and sick some more if FSU does this! If I am the Orange Bowl, immediately go get another team... Who would be worthy... JMU or Tulane, or even North Dakota State... Have some fun if Florida State pulls this crap!

[@dublindog8038]

This is sick, sick and sick some more if FSU does this! If I am the Orange Bowl, immediately go get another team... Who would be worthy... JMU or Tulane, or even North Dakota State... Have some fun if Florida State pulls this crap! Also I say that all Sports Writers promoting this, ESPN Heads, The Athletic Director, The Coach, and others should be Fired Immediately for hurting College Football! Every Recruit should go somewhere else, Every Player should Transfer... This would be the greatest Disgrace in College Football History... I so will never watch another FSU Game ever ever again... and think they should not be allowed in the NCAA if they pull this crap!

[@CCslim]

FSU is not giving up that payout

[@alonzokincaid1362]

With that money they can afford to tamper with a few more key pieces for next season.

[@trenitty81]

The ACC receives $4 million for them to play in the Orange bowl, which is split between 15 teams. So about $267K each. That’s chump change for them.

[@mark_a_vigil]

I'm sure a single donor would be more than willing to donate 267k to the university if it opted out of the bowl.

[@alonzokincaid1362]

@@trenitty81 they could buy another player with that

[@user-re7qy3ub8h]

They need to show they can hang with one of the best teams unless they're scared... And don't want to show everyone why they shouldn't be in....

[@bradenm3]

Yeah, that's how a 5 year old would read the situation. Nice job

[@user-re7qy3ub8h]

@@bradenm3 point is FSU cant hang with Georgia

[@mattiberger9541]

Thanks Josh. Agree with 100%

[@WestofEast]

If they opt out of the orange bowl that proves the committee's point of FSU not deserving the playoffs. If they beat Georgia, they have all the leverage in the world of saying they should be national champions. Withdrawing from a NY6 game because your feelings were hurt is utterly ridiculous and shows they don't have championship mentality.

[@PsychedelicFern]

My thoughts too. If you felt the playoff committee got it wrong then prove it. FSU could claim themselves as the disputed national champs and no one would argue with it

[@Sasquatch-ff9qh]

Initial thought after reading that question is if FSU wants to prove themselves then beat UGA.

[@GentlemanJack295]

What would it prove that mattered?

[@wd3574]

Too many players opting out. So it's a meaningless game except for it being an exhibition for the younger players and for the money each team would earn. It's a no-win situation for FSU. If FSU wins then the argument would be that Georgia was not at full strength. If FSU loses then it would be "I told you so". My opinion is to let the players for both teams to decide whether to play this game or not.

[@machtschnell7452]

​@@GentlemanJack295 UGA was an undefeated SEC finalist. 🙄

[@Sasquatch-ff9qh]

@@wd3574 good points. It would be interesting if they did opt out.

[@tjwhizzy8437]

FSU HAS proven itself. And they were told "sorry, doesn't matter". If they beat UGA and the college football fandom collectively goes "huh... well, I guess the committee DID get it wrong..", would we expect that afterthought to mean anything to those young men who KNOW they were robbed of an opportunity? Silencing the haters would be nice, sure, but silencing haters =/= winning a national championship. At the end of the day, FSU was robbed and those coaches and young men know it.

[@gamecock4u03]

FSU will be in the SEC in a couple years. If they were this year and won the SEC with the same hurt QB they would be in the playoffs.

[@Chris-mp7dd]

I hope they to the B1G. I really don't want to be associated with the SEC, as NOLE fan. It would be like putting on orange and blue. Can't do it. The SEC is a rival conference. B1G has never really been that to the NOLES

[@arthurmalone2474]

I'm sad for FSU but if they played in the SEC championship game with a 3rd string QB....they would've been embarrassed

[@Chris-mp7dd]

@@arthurmalone2474 prove it. That Defense played better than any Nole D in history in that game. Would have done the same against any team. I know I do the same thing but the speculation has gotten outta control.

[@catheferguson5479]

@@Chris-mp7dd FSU will never have a profitable program in B1G. The travel alone would be a budget breaker . Come to the SEC, where travel will be regional and the students can actually go to away games. For goodness sakes, turn that hockey club to D1

[@drakesavory2019]

Can you imagine Georgia playing a 5-7 team in the Orange Bowl? Love it.

[@janineboitard6492]

I'm taking my ball and going home ... sulk, sulk, sulk ... MAN UP BOYS! 🙄

[@andreweldridge1236]

These kind of thoughtful takes are why Josh is easily the number 1 CFP guy out there. Is there a close second?

[@TimmyPruitt166]

U just said that cause he agrees with the ACC bs!

[@claytaylor6271]

they got the shaft, but that would be beyond pathetic. they won't be able to claim a NC either without an Orange bowl win

[@HarrellBatesMotorsports]

We won't claim one with a OB win this is FSU not ucf

[@koleburger4746]

Even if there is a chance fsu opts out, it won’t happen until after the early signing period begins. Opting out doesn’t give off the best look towards recruits

[@Matthew-McCallister]

If they play and win the Orange Bowl against Georgia, they have the opportunity to set their program up for success for the next 4-5 years.

[@NazTrav]

It won't happen, but if Florida State and Georgia both showed for the game (to get paid) and had an agreement to come onto the field and do nothing but victory formation QB kneel downs for 3 hours it would be hilarious.

[@bruceleggett568]

Not playing allows them to avoid a bad loss to UGA, allowing them to save face about being snuffed.

[@Chimpnole]

All of the star players from both teams won't be playing.

[@nolesfan173]

The epitome of stupidity right here

[@crimsonkings205]

@@Chimpnole Point? Georgias second sting would wax FSU.

[@bruceleggett568]

@@Chimpnole so they should play, get wrecked and ????!

[@blacksand5882]

@@bruceleggett568 be quiet and recruit better quarterbacks

[@morganlollar2356]

Just throwing this out there but couldn’t there be a way of working with the name sponsor of each bowl game to push some type of “reward” or “opportunity” to the winning team through NIL. Maybe adding some meaning and reason to compete as a player?

[@itsmeevan027]

If they play and lose, they validate their exclusion of the playoff. If they don't play, they end the season undefeated and will always be a 'what if.' If they play, the BETTER win.

[@evanstair1262]

Maybe.... it depends upon what NFL talent opts out from the game from each team.

[@ericbeverly5336]

If there is gonna be a committee and voting going forward, can't opt out. It would be held against the Florida St. brand for a long time.

[@tylerpadgett1485]

Why would fsu care? They can’t get in even when going undefeated

[@jarodleighton6421]

Conf champ gets auto bid. No one outside the champ is getting into the sec / b1g invitational otherwise anyway.

[@YA-wr5wd]

@@tylerpadgett1485because the playoff goes to 12 next year, they would have an auto bid if they one the acc next year, even if they lost 1-2 games this situation will literally never happen again under the new rules

[@darrenproffitt2765]

They should opt out and save face when they lose by 5 or 6 touchdowns

[@HarrellBatesMotorsports]

No one scored 5 to 6 touchdowns on the Noles all year

[@darrenproffitt2765]

@@HarrellBatesMotorsports You can count on it this time

[@chipi1972]

​@@darrenproffitt2765just like LSU was supposed to destroy FSU😂

[@darrenproffitt2765]

@@chipi1972 IAM a Tennessee fan Georgia is best team in the country by far LSU is barely a top 25 team

[@darrenproffitt2765]

​@@HarrellBatesMotorsportsTold you this would happen

[@Sealambert]

Instead of opting out, they should try their best to prove the committee wrong by trying to ball-out against Georgia in a convincing fashion. Make the committee regret their decision. Opting out is proving the college football world that the committee made a perfect choice. This should motivate a team to do something instead of falling on their own sword. Figuratively speaking.

[@MichaelSheehan-bz1vu]

Enjoy all the pomp and circumstance of bowl week, then at the coin toss win or lose then opt out and walk off with their middle fingers raised at the network.

[@davidjackson4308]

With the 12 team playoff coming next year, all the bowls not included should absolutely go away. More and more players opt out, and who really cares to watch the ACC #3 playing the SEC #4 anyway. The vast majority of bowls lose money hand over fist, and a lot of the school struggle to pay for the expense of going.

[@g33p9x22]

The “cheese it” bowl has a payout of 6 million I think both of these teams will be fine in the Orange bowl the pool for the bowl was 79 million last year.

[@dublindog8038]

I do, but you are a false fan and don't really care about the Sport that I love the Most! I hate comments like this, as they show disrespect for so many athletes that will play their last football game ever! People like you should stick to the Pros! and Get away from our Sport! Sick Sick and Sick such comments like this! Stop degrading Collegiate Athletes with your crap and stay in the Pros! Casual!

[@STMARTIN009]

From a fans prospective getting rid of the useless Idaho Potato Bowls is a good thing due to the fact that the teams are not playing for thr national title,however its all about big business for the schools and the sponsors. Meaningless bowls are here to stay.

[@dublindog8038]

@@STMARTIN009 From a true Fans Perspective that loves College Football... We want these bowls because they give us a game to watch which is better than watching stupid reruns or Reality TV Shows! You are just wrong!

[@dublindog8038]

@@STMARTIN009 Casual Fans who just like to come on here and comment don't want to see these games... They would prefer to watch Big Brother All Starts or some Survivor Crap, or Some sort of other Reality or Rerun based show.... But True Fans... Those who live for College Football... want and need these games... They give us something to watch!

[@chrisbrooks6965]

If they truly think they should’ve been in why not prove it by beating Georgia

[@JozieKS]

Yes yes yes!

[@mark_a_vigil]

You idiot, nobody who is any good on either team will be playing in the bowl game. That's why! All the stars and players for each team that got it to this point of 12-1 and 13-0 will not be playing. Basically a preseason game for next year. I would love FSU to opt out and just give the bowl games a giant 🖕

[@RD-wg9em]

Because a win wouldn’t be seen as legitimate, it’s the UCF situation again. They win and an asterisk is attached due to opt outs and transfers. They lose and it’s proof they shouldn’t have been there. It’s a lose lose

[@michaelsell6328]

And what exactly does it prove? Half of fsus roster wont be playing. And even if they did win, they would claim most of Georgias players opted out.

[@mark_a_vigil]

Exactly remember Dan Mullens presser after Oklahoma beat Florida. Remember there season ended before the bowl game. He didn't count the game, and the ENTIRE SEC claimed Oklahoma only beat Florida because of the opt outs.

[@saysbadman]

I think they should play, and if they win that will send a message. If they opt out of the bowl then they will look like cowards, and they will have no basis to talk about missing a shot at the title. Just look at the 2008 Sugar Bowl with Hawaii who thought they were entitled to a championship.

[@robertwhite2032]

Does anyone remember the 2004 undefeated Auburn season? They were left out of the championship game after going undefeated in the SEC. I don't remember this much bs like with FSU. If the cinnamon rolls opt out, it is because they don't want to be humiliated by Georgia, that just lost to the team that FSU thinks should not be in the playoffs instead of them. FSU should man up, play Georgia and let's see what happens.

[@bigfellow]

Actually there were four undefeated teams: USC, OU, Auburn, and Utah. @@user-we3me3dg1y

[@robertwhite2032]

@user-we3me3dg1y yeah, there's 4 this year. That doesn't matter. FSU are being little spoiled brats. They would be beaten badly by any of the 4 teams that are in. 55 passing yards in a miserable display in their championship game is pathetic. FSU is NOT one of the 4 best teams. Liberty would beat FSU

[@RT22-pb2pp]

Yes to escape beating that shows they never were top 4 team

[@sean78745]

Wouldn't a better statement to the committee be to beat Georgia? Somehow I don't see that happening though 😂

[@robcd7112]

The better reason to opt out is to avoid losing to Georgia because if they lose big their arguments will vanish into thin air. Their chances of beating Georgia are slim without the starting qb.

[@davidashton1305]

@@robcd7112 no it doesn't. FSU will have all or most of their top players sitting out the game for the draft. Same with Georgia. The game is meaningless outside of getting younger players real game experience.

[@GentlemanJack295]

Wouldn't matter if FSU beat Georgia. They would rationalize it away. They would never admit they made a mistake.

[@krispykrunkdonut]

if half the players dont play what is there to gain? if somehow they do beat UGA, the excuse train will ride in on it was not a full strength GA team.

[@jaredcummins6932]

a 6-6 Texas A&M team who was handled by Miami, an Auburn team who was beat by New Mexico State, a 1 win conference team in Arkansas, FSU beats two SEC opponents this year with neither one of those games being at home. I think maybe you should reconsider the quality the SEC has been this year. Last time I checked FSU did their thing to everyone they played this season. And how did the SEC stack up against the ACC this season? Thats right, they had a losing record...@@Freedom_Half_Off

[@Mark-rw3kw]

Players stopped playing in bowl games (and all-star games) a long time ago because they didn't want to risk injury before turning pro, or don't want to drop in the draft because of a bad performance in a bowl. Has nothing to do with the BCS or CFP.

[@kittenluvzu]

that's why I dropped my cable subscription at the beg of this month

[@scooby2181]

What's the purpose of watching college football if the players are going to opt out any way?

[@Mark-rw3kw]

@@scooby2181 The non-playoff bowl games are pretty much of a joke. Usually if a team is in the CFP playoffs, then the players don't opt out even if they are turning pro. However, if a player enters the transfer portal, then they probably won't play in the playoff games. Texas backup QB Maalik Murphy entered the transfer portal and is playing for Duke next year, so he opted out of the playoff games. This is not a big deal if the starting Texas QB doesn't get injured, but it could be a big problem if the starting QB cannot play. During the regular season Murphy started 2 games because the starting QB was injured. They really need to move the transfer portal dates so that does not happen. At least football is a little better than the "one and done" rule for basketball, where players are allowed to turn pro after one year if they enter college (or go straight to the pros from high school).

[@charltonmccullough4494]

I’m pretty sure as everything to do with both of them.

[@Cmullet33]

As a Florida State fan, I appreciate Josh Pate's neutral takes on this entire situation.

[@richliu7335]

I won't lie, am an FSU fan. The truth of the matter is that I am crushed by this decision. Mike Norvell did such a great job coaching up these guys and building a loving, team atmosphere and these guys battled for him. Many of these players remember the shortened Covid season when the team was horrible. It went up from there and they have earned their right to celebrate college football by their hard work and results. Now, ESPN steps in and says "Hey Boo, money". Then they run off a litany of contradictions like FSU isn't pretty to watch, doesn't run up the score like ... Michigan does? Jordan Travis, a player, is the reason FSU is being sent down to the Consolation Bowl. Let's ignore the rest of the players who kept winning games without him. Let's ignore the dominant defensive team that stuffed a ranked Louisville team when they got a turnover in the red zone by holding them without points when the game was still hanging in the balance. I mean, if Michigan, Washington, Alabama or Texas were to have their guys go down to practice injuries or whatever, would the Committee remove them from the playoff and reinstate FSU? What if John Harbaugh were to have more violations thrown his way, forcing him to be off the sidelines, does Michigan get dumped out of the rankings and banned from the playoff so that FSU can move up? I can go on and on but that would be pointless. The question is whether FSU should be playing in the Orange Bowl. If you asked me this any year I have been rooting for this team prior to now, I would be proud to see them play in that game. Considering the time and effort put into this, the Orange Bowl game has always been a reward for achievements on the field, until this year and now it seems to have become a punishment. But the question here is about doing what is right, about ethics, about hurting the people who hurt FSU where it counts, in the wallets. Were I FSU's players, coaches, athletic directors, and boosters, I'd appreciate them to wait until the very last moment possible and tell everyone it is not going to attend this year. 1, This meaningless game has lost the value with players waiting for NFL paychecks avoiding risking injuries, like the one Jordan Travis had. 2, What is the value of being ranked 5th all of a sudden but still having Georgia ranked lower and both Alabama and Georgia are SEC schools with similar resumes, and the fact that Georgia was a two time defending champion. Lose to Georgia, people will use the narrative of "See, even with Georgia missing guys, you still didn't win and deserved this". Beat Georgia, what did FSU beat exactly? A ranking number? What honor is there in playing a glorified preseason scrimmage game, for next year's players, and winning it? FSU gets to beat a team with a name and a number but not the best players. Sincerely saying, FSU should hit ESPN and anyone who intends to earn from the Orange Bowl where it hurts most, the wallets. Revenge is dish of oranges best served cold.

[@dublindog8038]

This is sick, sick and sick some more if FSU does this! If I am the Orange Bowl, immediately go get another team... Who would be worthy... JMU or Tulane, or even North Dakota State... Have some fun if Florida State pulls this crap! Also I say that all Sports Writers promoting this, ESPN Heads, The Athletic Director, The Coach, and others should be Fired Immediately for hurting College Football! Every Recruit should go somewhere else, Every Player should Transfer... This would be the greatest Disgrace in College Football History... I so will never watch another FSU Game ever ever again... and think they should not be allowed in the NCAA if they pull this crap!

[@user-rn6hr1qw3l]

Just take a look at ESPN z rankings, they have Washington number 12 , ESPN ruined college football

[@richliu7335]

Agreed. I used to love ESPN when they actually reported on games. Now they get to decide who plays in games, how the games are played, and more. Disgusting.@@user-rn6hr1qw3l

[@richliu7335]

You are welcome to stop watching games. Nobody is twisting your arm to support FSU or anyone. If, by your rant, you choose this path, I respect your decision. I believe in doing what is right, by hitting these decision makers where it hurts. They have wasted the efforts of the athletes on the field, as well as the trust of the fans who trusted in the system. They have given contradictory explanations that don't make sense. The ESPN media has let their pundits push the agenda using language meant to bully and force people to accept it without question. I can throw out a litany of rebuttals at anyone who sides with the playoff committee and ESPN's agendas and I know that the best anyone can do is toss their toys out of the crib like a toddler throwing a temper tantrum. What has been said has been said and there is nothing new to justify this act. So if FSU were to boycott this game, good on them and I truly believe it is for the greater good. Change is needed, lest every sport become subjective to public opinion rather than a rules based competition based on what actually happens in games. Goodbye sir, may I suggest Alabama has a bandwagon looking for fans to jump on? @@dublindog8038

[@dublindog8038]

​@@richliu7335 Let me tell you who you and other Casual Fans that show up at this time of year and Pop off on Social Media to act like you are all big, well you are hurting the sport! You are hurting the Seniors on Florida State that wanna play their final Football game in a Premiere Bowl! Yes, that's right the Seniors that know they are not going to go to the league, (maybe they get a scout team), but this is it for them and you want them not to play against the back-to-back national champions? Very Selfish of you and others to hurt those Seniors who will play their last football game ever!

[@curtisjackson3010]

Runnin from an azzwhoopin

[@guineapigclips5205]

Probably will be. Fsu has no one left after opt outs and transfers

[@AceWillliams]

@@guineapigclips5205 so the absent of key players do affect a teams play? Great committee got it double right

[@guineapigclips5205]

@@AceWillliams when you have like 15 guys missing yes, but not when you have just one missing

[@curtisjackson3010]

@@guineapigclips5205 for the record, Bama had no opt outs vs K State last yr. They came and handled business knowing they should've been in instead of tcu

[@AceWillliams]

@@guineapigclips5205 UGA gonna have just as many opt outs. FSU just scared to play so they can say till the end of time that they were hosed and should have gotten in

[@preston7558]

I guarantee that players will stop opting out of bowl games when NIL money is tied to participation. Give it time, and boosters will adjust.

[@evanstair1262]

Ooooo... I like that. You don't play you don't get paid. However, would there be enough NIL money available to make up for an NFL signing bonus or even an NFL career?

[@charltonmccullough4494]

The opt outs will stop once they expand the playoff format next year.

[@FirstNameLastName-hz4kv]

The problem with bowl games is ... they might as well all have the same name now" the 'Not The Playoffs Bowl'

[@mattgraves6224]

Opt out or prove that you should have been in the top 4 by beating UGA....not going to happen cause i am willing to bet they are worried about being exposed and that is how it will be viewed if they do

[@guineapigclips5205]

They probably will get exposed. After opt outs and transfers they barely have anyone left

[@RD-wg9em]

It wouldn’t prove anything, with opt outs and portal activity a win over Georgia wouldn’t be seen as legitimate. They’re in a lose lose situation

[@ebmgarnet2642]

Opt-outs and portal will have a significant impact on this game. When the best players for both teams and significant depth won't be playing, then the game is meaningless. It will be played though - FSU decision makers aren't the one's saying FSU should opt out. It's just fans being fans.

[@RD-wg9em]

@@ebmgarnet2642 precisely. I think FSU plays but it’s a lose lose for them. Similar position to UCF in 2017

[@roberteagles4837]

But what does proving they should have been there get them if they win? It means absolutely nothing.

[@buildingbread]

I want them to play, win, and claim a national championship for the sake of chaos lol

[@chrishaugh1655]

You can "claim" anything you want to, doesn't make it true. No one thinks UCF is the 2017 champion.

[@mark_a_vigil]

​@@chrishaugh1655actually the only reason UCF can claim that national title is because one of the eligible polls had them ranked #1.

[@mourka01]

​@@mark_a_vigilucf and fsu can pretend together than it will be super cute 😅

[@mark_a_vigil]

@@mourka01 you mean like the countless titles that Notre Dame and Alabama and so many other teams claim. When they were 8-4 and 9-3 teams and there was clearly a better team but all those teams claimed joint national champions.

[@chrishaugh1655]

@@mark_a_vigil exactly. And just like those claims, NO ONE takes it seriously. What poll had them ranked number one after the season was over? I'd love to know. Because it wasn't the AP, Coaches, or CFP polls.

[@cllintdevena7712]

Let the player's take a vote. If the top players choose to sit it out, it woud be a total embarrassment for FSU to play Georgia. If colleges make millions on this game ; then playets should get their cut.

[@johngoodman9380]

Politics will always play a part where money and prestige are involved. I will respect FSU no matter what their decision is because they played by the rules and got screwed.

[@QuickScopingPerk]

Imagine going on defeated and being a conf champ and being told it doesn’t matter

[@dublindog8038]

Yes, it happened to Auburn but they didn't Opt out during the BCS Era! But perhaps you don't know your History!

[@dublindog8038]

Pretty sad that you are getting likes on this when people don't remember Auburn going 13-0 winning the SEC and being left out of the BCS as the number 3 team.... And yet, everyone of their players played in their bowl game! What is up with this Wussy Opt-Out concept?

[@secvsevery1844]

Lmao that’s how you know your program is irrelevant.

[@dublindog8038]

​@@secvsevery1844 Only the wusses would Opt-Out of a Premiere Bowl like the Orange Bowl like toddlers saying... You can't play in my sandbox! This is what FSU is doing! Georgia should have been over FSU and Texas but that is how it goes... you don't seem them seeking an Opt-Out... Men don't Quit!

[@marine47ncaa25]

First time in history an undefeated power 5 hasn’t made the playoff. First time a number one seed has lost in the conference championship and dropped further than number 4. Both FSU & UGA should agree behind closed doors to boycott this absolute nonsense.

[@jmilb10053]

How much is the bowl pay out? How much is that as % of the budget?

[@user-kk1td2vy4u]

The better question is this one. Since, they were snubbed😅, Does, that justify them not wanting to compete with what is available?

[@billkaldem5099]

Yes

[@RandomNumber6598]

In a better world, FSU could opt out and refuse to make disproportionally more money for the people in charge of the system that screwed them out of more money and prominence. But, they’ll just invite Oklahoma to scab that spot and nobody would pay the demonstration any mind.

[@TheBenzwanger]

Considering Oklahoma beat 2 conference champions, is the only other team to beat a playoff team and has a better resume than Penn State, Ole Miss and Mizzou, they deserved a NY6 game.

[@GentlemanJack295]

Nor would they pay any mind to FSU beating Georgia.

[@RandomNumber6598]

@@TheBenzwanger true, but that’s a different discussion. I’m saying if fsu did take a stance they would just invite the next team up and 98% of fanbases wouldn’t even care.

[@robcd7112]

Your quitting argument could apply to just about everything in college football. Why did my opponent get a week off and we didn't, why did I get matched up with Liberty, why should I play when the refs are responsible for keeping me out of the playoffs, why should I play when my schedule is too hard. If FSU opts out they will be cementing their future in mediocrity because they will attract coaches and players that are ok with quitting.

[@Grafknar]

THIS IS WHY YOU ARE MY COLLEGE FOOTBALL SPIRIT ANIMAL.

[@eddihaskell]

If I were FSU, I would do the following. First, let the players have a meeting in private. If they as a group decide not to play, FSU pulls out. This must happen by Tuesday evening December 12. Second, even if the players decide NOT to pull out, any player who does not wish to participate in the game will not be penalized in any way -- even those that return. Third, FSU should not do this at the last minute, or refuse to play the game if they show up -- this will damage their reputation for all time, and they need to understand it.

[@dublindog8038]

This is sick, sick and sick some more if FSU does this! If I am the Orange Bowl, immediately go get another team... Who would be worthy... JMU or Tulane, or even North Dakota State... Have some fun if Florida State pulls this crap! Also I say that all Sports Writers promoting this, ESPN Heads, The Athletic Director, The Coach, and others should be Fired Immediately for hurting College Football! Every Recruit should go somewhere else, Every Player should Transfer... This would be the greatest Disgrace in College Football History... I so will never watch another FSU Game ever ever again... and think they should not be allowed in the NCAA if they pull this crap!

[@Hero-lc6rr]

I wouldn’t want to face UGA either 😂

[@danielbryant2518]

You assume Georgia wants to play this bowl? Under the committee’s guidelines, are they not one of the top 4 teams?

[@Hero-lc6rr]

@@danielbryant2518 well the title of the video is “Should FSU OPT Out” not UGA & no, they are not a top 4 per the committee. Committee got it right.

[@sethvann5751]

Of course they might opt out. They got matched up against Georgia and don’t want to be exposed and proven that the committee was right😂

[@I-LikeColdBeverages]

Yes!

[@bidendidntwin3268]

63-3 looks like they did boycott.

[@carlhop]

The only reason they want to opt out of a bowl game is because they don’t want to admit that the committee got it right when they get destroyed by Georgia.

[@mrsullivan1709]

If FSU doesn’t want to play the game then they need to make it known now. That way the spot could be filled with a team that wants to play that game. If they choose to do like a lot of the fans want them to and wait till they’re literally standing in the tunnel and then refuse to come out I’d suspend them from any bowl games for the next couple of years. If you don’t want to play then fine, pull out now. If you choose to try to get one over on everyone then you will be choosing to not play in any at all.

[@bayshawnmalik]

FSU would just take the field and stand there. There is no rule written anywhere that says you have to try to win and if the powers that be tried to punish them like you suggest, since it's not in writing they have to try to win, FSU would be able to sue them into oblivion for retaliation. 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@mrsullivan1709]

@@bayshawnmalik If they want to stand there and let Georgia score 10 td’s on 10 plays then so be it. They are the ones who will look like jackasses.

[@Zedbie]

That's a ton of "ifs". Protests are inconvenient to the powers to be, to the participants, and everyone watching. That's how they're effective. FSU decides to ruin the Orange Bowl and the networks lose money, the bowls reputation is eroded, and its effective at calling out the system's bias. Pulling out early, allowing another team in for the ratings, negates the whole point. So, the one if is this: If they protests, this will hurt the pockets of the people who influence the committee.

[@theinfinity2988]

Imagine if they got to play Liberty lmao

[@BrianGlaze]

What annoys me about these conversations is that people are more concerned with talking about these things rather than enjoying football for the sake of football itself. I enjoy watching the players play the game and seeing the schemes and matchups.

[@dublindog8038]

This is sick, sick and sick some more if FSU does this! If I am the Orange Bowl, immediately go get another team... Who would be worthy... JMU or Tulane, or even North Dakota State... Have some fun if Florida State pulls this crap! Also I say that all Sports Writers promoting this, ESPN Heads, The Athletic Director, The Coach, and others should be Fired Immediately for hurting College Football! Every Recruit should go somewhere else, Every Player should Transfer... This would be the greatest Disgrace in College Football History... I so will never watch another FSU Game ever ever again... and think they should not be allowed in the NCAA if they pull this crap!

[@JaicobFeliz]

They should PROVE they can beat Georgia. I think they're scared.

[@tomwaits4205]

Thats exactly what i told my FSU allum Brother n Law. Heres yalls chance to prove the entire world wrong!

[@trenitty81]

Like they were scared of the #5 ranked LSU Tigers, with the soon to be heisman winner🙄

[@DivulgeInfinity66]

People like you who pose that sort of “scared” or “prove they can beat Georgia” argument are just dumb and make you sound like an idiot… Both teams, especially FSU, will have a ton of opt outs by its seniors/NFL players. Meaning both teams will be shells of what they were. It’s an exhibition match w/ fluid rosters and are not an indicator of what they were or who they are. Apple to oranges comparison.

[@JaicobFeliz]

@@trenitty81 and what rank is LSU now?

[@olerain]

True dat I agree if they go out and get blown out by the dawgs then everyone can say see that’s why they not in , but if they no show everybody can keep debating and being mad

[@bradenm3]

If FSU wins people will say UGA didnt play their starters. And if FSU loses the CFP is vindicated. This was the matchup anyways. Norvell won't back down and neither will the team.

[@claytaylor6271]

don't worry, FSU won't win even if UGA plays their third string players. FSU got shafted, but this current team with their third string QB would easily lose to at least 20 teams.

[@phipsdeus2]

I wouldn’t be the one to tell a bunch of young men that we’re not going to Miami for a week in the middle of winter.

[@michaeldorwart2468]

I am a Florida State fan, and I'm hoping these players don't opt out but go to war with Georgia. It's time they prove beyond a doubt they belong in the big game. They earned a shot. Opting out will give the game to Georgia and prove nothing. Make it count. Play and win for personal satisfaction.

[@g-man2228]

As a lot of players now think, why get hurt over something that really doesn’t mean that much, especially after going 13 and O….I hope FSU walks! 👊🏻

[@RoscoPColtrane17]

The honor system relies on honor. There was no honor in this decision. Better to sit this one out and even better to punish those who have denied you honor.

[@HaroldSarate]

no one is punished except FSU and their players. This would be a bitch move.

[@ManchurianCounterweight]

Sit out the next 10 seasons!

[@RoscoPColtrane17]

@@ManchurianCounterweight I’d rather go undefeated again all over your face.

[@MrMsowers22]

Yes

[@dragngt]

No, they should not opt out. This is a disguise to keep them from losing to Georgia, how bad that loss might be, and proving they didn’t belong in the playoff. If they sit out, they don’t have to risk that loss and can continue to moan about how they should’ve been in.

[@Ragingfurie]

Life is not always fair, play Georgia and prove something

[@trevthegamedev]

All the best players are opting out. If they beat Georgia then you’ll just say “well it wasn’t the real Georgia” if they lose then you’ll say “see? I knew you didn’t belong”

[@Lazarus-nw1ve]

Florida State university has proven what needed to be proven. Win or Lose in an opted out player bowl is not the same level as a regular game at any point in the season. Florida State does not have to prove anything to anyone on a secondary bowl when they are already prepped for a Natty run. S--t on me once shame on you. S--t on me twice shame on me. Michigan Undefeated Washington Undefeated Florida State Undefeated Texas one defeat and already defeated sec champ. Tell you what, give Georgia and Alabama a rematch on their "one loss" in The Orange Bowl and put the top as they should be. M/W/FS/T. NO SEC Team has a right to be in the Playoff game. They were all defeated.