Why the US F1 Team FAILED

[@FqtRacing]

They didn't fail they just wanted to surprise us when they line up on the 2023 grid and pull a Brawn

[@pressf9100]

bruh imagine they pull an actual brawn 😭

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@pressf9100 yep. Brawn version 3.

[@riventv4927]

@@purwantiallan5089 Whats Brawn 2? Merc?

[@mahamedhassan5973]

@@riventv4927 Brawn was a new team back in 2009 that won the championship the same year and yes brawn is basically merc now.

[@pedrommanzi2409]

Yeah right

[@NavF1]

Only sad thing about this story is how Jose Maria Lopez never got an F1 seat despite his talent

[@Roguescienceguy]

Wait? The baller?

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

@@Roguescienceguy No, he races in TC2000 (among series).

[@eddierodriguez4]

@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 Most recently in the WEC with Toyota

[@thomassf3]

He never did that well in open wheel cars - sportscars are a very different kettle of fish

[@skaldlouiscyphre2453]

@@eddierodriguez4 Ah. Good for him. TC2000 is loaded with talent.

[@MulettoMotorsports]

As an Argie, every time I see the name "USF1" I immediately get furious at the lost prospect that was Pechito López.

[@dominicbarden4436]

Pechito's done well for himself to be fair. Three WTCC titles, two WEC titles and a Le Mans 24hrs win. Honestly should probably have got a second season with DS Virgin in Formula E rather than spending two years at the chaos that is Dragon. Defnitely one of Argentina's best drivers, if not the best (though I'll be honest, I don't know of many Argentine drivers apart from the obvious ones like Juan Manuel Fangio, José Frolián González and Carlos Reutemann, as well as the more obscure F1 drivers Esteban Tuero, Norberto Fontana and Gastón Mazzacane), over the last twenty years or so.

[@commanderlewisskipperton8721]

@@dominicbarden4436 DS Virgin had a prime Sam Bird as the leader at that time but I still don't get why they didn't keep López.

[@dominicbarden4436]

@@commanderlewisskipperton8721 Indeed they had prime Sam Bird, but heading into the New York double header where he won both races López was actually ahead of him in the championship! I think he didn't get a second season because Alex Tai really wanted Alex Lynn in the car? I mean, getting pole in his very first race didn't hurt his cause.

[@commanderlewisskipperton8721]

@@dominicbarden4436 that's true too.

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@commanderlewisskipperton8721 imagine if it formed, the drivers for USF1 team could be Tsubaki Yayoi and Kasumi Nakasu.

[@NavF1]

A big channel had to cover this at some point. Hilarious story that goes hand in hand with the even bigger joke that was Stefan GP

[@purwantiallan5089]

StefanGP? I thought Stefan Bradl GP.

[@nachoalvarez7171]

@@purwantiallan5089 Hahaha

[@Fitch93]

Many years ago, I had a chat with a fellow who worked for USF1, per him, the bulk of the blame for the teams failure rests on Anderson. The problem was Anderson would work out designs, send them off to be processed and what not preparatory to being built and when they'd send him back the final specs just before construction, he would "fix" things he saw that didn't look correct to him. So they were locked in an endless struggle of getting designs, prepping the tooling, and sending them back for final approval only to be sent an all new design for the same part. I was told this was down to the fact that prior to all of this Anderson had always had people above him who did the final approval. Now he was not only the designer, but also the person with the final say and his own designs were never good enough for himself so he constantly had to tinker with them. Supposedly, everything Windsor was telling the press was what Anderson was telling him, as Windsor didn't spend a whole lot of time at the shop. His reasoning for his shop visit where he asked if anyone didn't think they'd be ready in time was because some of the employees finally reached out to him and told him what was happening. From what I'd heard he was actually pretty devastated when he finally realized what was going on and that the USF1 dream was over.

[@anacondastrike128]

If you would do a video that takes on every failed entry for 2010, plus a vid for each team that acually made it to the grid that year, you would have enough material for the winter break 😅

[@Wizzkidwas]

"The FIA saw 10 teams and thought 'we want more' " Man, wish they did that today, we'd have Andretti

[@jensenatkins8936]

Got Andretti and Audi waiting

[@manuelgrothe608]

in FIA Formula E

[@AriaCarmonaOfficial]

@@jensenatkins8936 I don't really count Audi since they're just taking the Sauber assets and slapping Audi branding as opposed to Alfa Romeo...I'd be more hoping for Andretti, a completely fresh 11th operation, to make the grid.

[@brokensmilephoto]

Toto Wolff is probably the biggest against Andretti. No idea what their beef is, and I'm sure if someone could find out why Toto doesn't want him in F1 they could make a decent video about it. The more closely you pay attention to the details of F1, the more you realize its just all politics, spoiled drivers who think they always have the right to the whole track, and more politics. I'm about done with F1 at this point. Thankfully the Indy series knows how to put on a good race with great cars, and international talent that isn't all "boys club F1".

[@jensenatkins8936]

@@brokensmilephoto because he doesn’t want an 11th team on the grid because it would mean less money at the end of the season for him. Plus Toto is just a fucking dick

[@Big73Red]

If I remember right Gunther Steiner was involved with USF1 and that’s how he met Gene Haas. They’d stayed in touch off and on all while Steiner was working on figuring out how to make an American F1 team possible. Then he presented his ideas to Gene and Haas F1 was born. So USF1 died so Haas F1 could fock smash doors.

[@brokensmilephoto]

The machines in the video are Haas machines. But like USF1, Haas kept the running joke of a US F1 team alive. More so the last 2 years.

[@bfapple]

@@brokensmilephotoThey had a better year this year.

[@Big73Red]

@@brokensmilephoto Haas have shown significant improvement this year. Were they fighting for best of the rest like 4 years ago, no, but it’s extremely rare for a team that’s only 7 years old to do well. Especially when that team has been operating with less overall staff than what Mercedes or Ferrari have on holiday.

[@dancallahan4183]

And now an established team with success in multiple series and a worldwide known name can't get on the grid for "reasons"

[@thorstenfinke2751]

reason is: Teams dont wanna share price money. F1 is becoming profitable for the first time ever and the "franchises" want a roi.

[@natem1579]

@@thorstenfinke2751 makes you wonder, can't FOM just pay the difference? At the very least Liberty Media?

[@soisaidtogod4248]

Grandpa being a driver is not good enough, want a pity pass?

[@Ramtamtama]

@@soisaidtogod4248 4 full-time drivers in IndyCar, 3 in IndyNXT, FE, XE, IMSA, and Supercars. A family that's had over half a dozen professional drivers and is a huge name in American racing.

[@o2benaz]

@@thorstenfinke2751 And the absolute, total hypocrisy of current F1 teams is they are finally making money solely because Liberty Media took over F1. And isn’t it interesting that Audi is being invited in by the FIA’s Stefano Domecalli, (a former Audi employee) who is furious about a possible Andretti team. “American dollars OK, American teams, no way.”

[@siimtokke3461]

What F1 needs is a Mark Cuban type of a man if the USA wants their own team (as dreamed). Someone who is not afraid to lose money and who will stay the course if times get tough. Many NBA team owners don't actually want to win the title. They invest just enough to get to playoffs and then lose in the first round so now they get paid. But Mark Cuban dreamed of winning the title and he made that dream come true. Also, having a lineup of drivers that are of the same nationality has almost never worked (when it comes to back-marker teams). Having drivers from different nationalities will make that team popular in at least 2 countries so you would get more interest and gain more money. Because at the end of the day it all comes down to money.

[@Amm17ar]

Most F1 teams.....if not all lose money. The big teams lose money 100% of the time. The smaller teams are able to make marginal profits but thats cuz they dont spend nearly as much. Merc, RedBull + Alpha, Ferrari, Aston, McLaren, and Alfa Romeo all lose money. They justify F1 as a means of insanely valuable marketing, but also as a means to fuel innovation and creativity that will trickle down to their money makers.......cars... Haas and Williams both made marginal profits if Im correct, but thats because of their spending. They made money off their brands, marketing, sponsors and so forth, but the value gained that the others can afford to justify losing money isnt there for them. They rely on guys like Mazespins to bring in money without the fear of losing it for ego, love of the sport and other reasons. Guys like them own teams not to boost their portfolio but rather to have it as a toy. They can afford losing money, and they dont mind losing a few million for the right to own a F1 team. What im getting at is Mark Cuban may love sports and doesnt mind spending to win like he did in Dallas......but NBA teams make money. Even when a team is spending beyond the salary cap, most North American sport teams make money. They are structured to do so, the leagues are structured to make money at the end of the day through revenue sharing, huge and dedicated markets, arenas, ticket sales, and so much more that isnt present in current day F1. Mark Cuban may spend 500 million on his team as a whole annually, but he makes a lot more from it and the value of owning that team takes up a lot of his net worth. Just because someones net worth is 4 billion, doesnt mean they have liquid assets or 4 billion in the bank. Over half his wealth is owning the Mavs, as they are valued at around 2.5 billion (on the higher end imo) Can he afford a F1 team, hell yeah..... Is owning an F1 team a smart financial decision......Absolutely not. I dont think Mark would invest in an F1 team. Youd need to get either a guy thats stupid rich who wouldnt mind losing money, or a manufacturer. Andretti seem to be able to make it viable and possible because they have positive cash flow from other sources that could help fund it and off-set the cost. Andretti doesnt care about making money, they care about racing. Most North American owners care about making money.

[@mateuszzimon8216]

@@Amm17ar Andretti plus GM or Ford. I just checked it on Wikipedia they partner with Cadillac (GM) to maybe rebrand engine from Alpine/Renault.

[@Amm17ar]

@@mateuszzimon8216 Yeah, I saw that a while ago. Hopefully F1 and the FIA as a whole put aside their Andretti hatred and figure out how to make it happen. I know Audi and Porshe are both looking to enter too, and to be honest, I think theyll get priority because RedBull is partnering with Ford. Theyll have their fix of a big American brand in Ford to fuel their obesession with America and I dont know if 3 new teams are viable. 24 cars seems doable, maybe one of Audi or Porshe buys Alpha Tauri or Alfa Romeo/Alpine (though I dont think Alpine is going anywhere based on what Ive read, you might know something I dont though forsure) I just think 22/24 cars is the most theyll allow and I think Andretti might have to wait a bit longer or wait for a team to sell to force their way in. I dont think F1 is going to easily or willingly give Andretti a team anytime soon. Id be happy to be wrong though.

[@henrythef1guy768]

10:31 Josh Revell: “It appears that, for Formula One, at least, the American dream is dead.” Andretti: *Allow us to introduce ourselves.*

[@AhmadLB-wz7gm]

Came here to say this

[@Rakettivuori]

I really hope they will get in. They will be much more prepared and would actually be able to run as a team imo

[@darknessesdarknesses2492]

FIA/Other F1 teams: "No, not like that."

[@fkez0510]

accept they aren't making any progress and aren't likely to join

[@Chunkerdunkers12]

@@fkez0510 I doubt they'll join. They'd have better luck running customer cars in Hypercar

[@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158]

You really need to cover Stefan GP sometimes in a future. I remember how excited I was when I heard the news that there will be team from my country in F1, that they are entering with big ambitions and that they will bring Villeneuve back from retirement. And than all news just stopped and it was never mentioned ever again. Truly a bummer, ngl.

[@nathanturner5186]

Also worth remembering that this meant Sauber could re/enter for 2010. As before this BMW leaving and the 4 new teams meant there was no space for them. USF1 failing allowed Sauber to re/enter and they were accepted, but it wasn’t a given for a few weeks. Alfa Romeo and Audi’s new home wouldn’t be here if these guys succeeded!

[@ShadowTVNetwork]

I thought Sauber were allowed back in once Toyota pulled out of F1.

[@zanemurcha9742]

Fun Fact: During the early 90s Peter Windsor got embroiled in the failing Brabham F1 team and even attempted to sell it to Greg Norman (the golfer) at one stage but the deals all fell through. Brabham passed from owner to owner like a football and at one point when leaving the Williams factory he was kidnapped by some henchmen of the previous owner whom he'd believed Windsor owed him money and was placed in the back of a van and beaten with a baseball bat before being kicked into a ditch. Windsor is a hard nut.

[@Lazbotable]

He was also a passenger in the car with Frank Williams in the crash that broke Frank's neck.

[@patrickracer43]

I mean it seemed like they were more focused on changing the former Joe Gibbs Racing race shop over to F1 than actually building a car (even though I'm positive that Joe Gibbs Racing could have built an F1 car in that building, they could probably do it in their current building) Edit: although you can't blame USF1 for wanting a secondary base in Europe, and I always hated how the FIA forced Cosworth engines on the teams that entered in 2010... Also of course Burnie could tell that something was up as the man owned Brabham, he's seen it all

[@ShadowTVNetwork]

Some say that US F1 are still working on getting their website back up.

[@faxual6153]

It's a bit annoying when something like that happens. Then again not surprising considering the rest of the lower pack in the 2010s...

[@Speeder76]

Nice memories, Josh. Almost decade and half ago, to be honest... You know, if you have done about this, why not do it on the other teams that entered on F1 on that year and their metamorfosis, like Campos/Hispania/HRT, Lotus/Caterham and Virgin/Manor/Marussia? I think it would be fun and memorable. I think.

[@srfnsurfer]

Each one of those teams backstory was just as crazy, if not more, than USF1.

[@Speeder76]

Agree,@@srfnsurfer

[@tobiasz6613]

@AidanMilward has some great videos covering these teams. It would be nice to hear Josh's take on them as well.

[@Nebechadnezzar]

This whole Andretti saga is probably worth another video, I'm assuming that's why they weren't mentioned. It's a bit sad that the teams (especially Toto Wolff) have been trying to block them, even after they were willing to pay the astronomical entry fees, and seem to be serious about it.

[@456MrPeople]

You do realize that Andretti already races in multiple series right?

[@rexthewolf3149]

@@456MrPeople they do but f1 is a different ball game. FE and Indycar are mostly spec series. And with out their own engine they would be a customer team most likely taking Renault engine. They would do fine but they wouldn’t be championship contenders. And that’s what f1 wants, a engine manufacturer that might be able to shake up the grid and compete with the big three.

[@ELSTERLING]

@@rexthewolf3149 S'true. Building a car for Formula 1 is _massively_ different to almost any other form of motorsport outside of LMP1. In Indycar, F2, F3, FE, etc. you just buy most or all of your parts in. The amount of specialists, special facilities, research and co-ordination that even the least of the current F1 teams uses dwarfs the operation of even the biggest Indy and Formula E teams.

[@soisaidtogod4248]

@@456MrPeople All of them minor national series, nothing global.

[@456MrPeople]

Great, bring them in too. The more teams the better.

[@KneYka]

"It appears that, for Formula 1, the American dream is officially dead…" I thought the face of Logan Sargeant would appear after that 2 second silence

[@KneYka]

yeah I understand even with 3 grands prix and an American driver... It's still hardly the "ideal" form of American dream

[@tylercady3985]

@@KneYka what we need is an Andretti F1 team, with Colton Herta and Logan Sargeant behind the wheel. According to Mario Andretti, everything is in place. They have a facility, they have an engine supplier, all that's missing is FIA approval

[@TripleAlfafa]

Time will tell. This offseason's likely the time if the new entry will or won't happen.

[@parkerchen17]

@@tylercady3985 acutally Andretti should find a new manufacturer, probably ford or GM(caddy or chevy) and that's the job done

[@tylercady3985]

@@parkerchen17 I would love to see it, but I think Andretti wants to be a customer team for someone who's already there until they get their feet under them. It's probably easier and smarter to do that than to try to build an engine from scratch with someone like Ford or GM, while having to build the car and run the team for the first year

[@fredogknopfler]

Another issue that difficults getting an USF1 style team is talent acquisition and experience. IndyCar is the most similar to F1 that there is in the USA and still is a whole another beast with limited knowledge base transferrable to F1, mostly because no major series in the US requires teams to design and manufacture their cars (There are some factory teams out there in IMSA and things like that but those are a rarity, not the norm), so you'd need to bring people from F1 to your base of operations and I bet not enough people with experience in F1 are willing to move and set shop in the USA since most will be people that are already settled with families and social lives and all. Like sure, young engineers with nothing to lose and the F1 dream? Sure. But good luck poaching higher ups from the rest of the teams.

[@ELSTERLING]

One of the more alarming details was how Ken Anderson put his questionably competent son as his second-of-command and Jr insisted he had to approve or veto _every single technical drawing and design personally._ Even Adrian Newey would balk at such a notion and that man knows F1 cars better than F1 cars know themselves. Consider that literally thousands of these can be produced in the planning of an F1 car and then imagine just how much that slowed things down. It's less of a bottleneck and more anaphylaxis. Moreover, Anderson Jr. would apparently often just... change details on the car's design on a whim and just expect everyone to adapt to it. Some former staff have told stories of how they'd come in in the morning and find Junior had just arbitrarily changed something without warning and that all the work _they'd_ been doing was suddenly useless as a result. Doubly bizarre considering the general reaction of the F1 community to the published CAD model of the car was, "It's a bit... basic, isn't it?" In the end the most of the car that was ever produced was a mock-up tub and front wing pieces IIRC.

[@magrogrem9234]

They did not fail, they Just merely failed to succeed

[@psychlops924]

Josh Revell: "It would appear that, for Formula One at least, the American dream is... DEAD" Michael Andretti and GM: "And I took that personally."

[@Zfrk]

WRC, Supercars, F1, Two Wheel Tuesdays...damn, I miss SPEED...Varsha, Matchett, and Hobbs were great to listen to during a Formula 1 race. I think they tried to time the opening of the scotch bottle perfectly with the lights going out and would have the first highballs downed by the end of the 2nd lap. I'd love to give the Sky Sports feed the boot and never have to listen to David Croft ever again.

[@MrDoppelganger777]

"A whiff of them Freedom Bucks..." This hits so well on a GWBush level!

[@TheZanzaroni]

Sooo... this is why the entire F1 management eye rolled when Andretti announced plans for an entry

[@srfnsurfer]

I remember Manor/Virgin with their zero wind tunnel and too small of fuel tank car. 1Malaysia F1> Lotus> Caterham and their struggles and HRT using one car design for the whole year

[@sagastim]

0:34 from this teams Epsilon Euskadi was at least in Spain a really interesting proyect. They had a really great car in Lemans and they had performed well in lower categories like WSBR. Then the 2008 crisis and everything stopped

[@nachoalvarez7171]

Yes, they were the top dogs for years, it's a shame nobody remembers them

[@Firashelou]

Nice video ! finally we know exactly what happened to USF1 ! I personally have emotional connection with that team because I learned a lot from their videos on youtube how the car is made especially the front wing which helped me in building my Phoenix F1 rc car !

[@Iroquois777]

Josh: The dream of an American f1 team is dead. Andretti: Am I a joke to you? Josh: well..........kinda

[@Limegreenedragon]

Me: yes

[@ThiccSeagull]

still wanting.. no! NEEDING a video on Stefan GP

[@car-Stan835]

The USF1 KZbin channel is still online. 😀 I subscribed it. Everybody should do this! 😄

[@NakulDalakoti]

You know things have gone terribly wrong when Karun Chandhok is being sent to investigate..😂.

[@hunterking5514]

As an American US F1 teams could be doing better. Excited to see Logan Sargent race in F1 next year!

[@bigguy8435]

Florida Man enters F1 grid

[@tobiasz6613]

It's never been that the US has lacked the talent or ability, all politics and money (and why chase F1 when motprsport is not somethung the US "lacks") - I hope Andreti gets his entry, they really could be something in F1

[@soisaidtogod4248]

@@tobiasz6613 Something embarrassing for sure.

[@KrisRogos]

The fact that Williams, a team as British as it gets, signed the next US driver before HAAS did is truly something...

[@kamranseal1666]

them: how quickly did you click on the josh revell noti? me: yes.

[@jlgf3148]

yes

[@maxmustermann6612]

The uploading schedule is incredible

[@Jason-gt2kx]

I was so excited when USF1 announce they would bring an American team to F1. I even went to their shop to see if it was for real. It was there and they were working, but sadly they never made it to the grid. It sucks HAAS doesn't have an American driver yet and they are inconsistent, but I am thankful there is an American team competing. Hopefully, Andretti makes it in next!

[@Jrodsly]

I wonder if this video is my fault since I sort of suggested it a few months back. I'm glad you did this one since I was always wondering how you'd cover this.

[@o3198]

this is why Mastercard Lola > USF1

[@RACECAR]

The fact they actually made it to a race automatically makes them better the USF1.

[@seanquinn9261]

You jinxed it man we got Andretti Cadillac now

[@hawka-4711]

I understand Stefan gp didn't have much credit personal wise, but being the team that bought the assets of the Toyota team, they should've been one of the entrants.

[@emiliovaca142]

Awesome videos Josh, greetings from Ecuador!

[@DavidCaudry]

Even Toyota took an entire year of testing in 2001 before entering in 2002, with not much success either

[@jok3r906]

Oh bullshit on the American F1 dream... Logan Sargent is carrying the torch for us all to follow here in the US. THE KID MADE IT FORMULA 1! It might be for William's, but he has made it

[@soisaidtogod4248]

20 seats and he got one. That is enough for praise.

[@caphowdy666]

The whole process in bringing in new teams was flawed. Apart from the obvious backing down on the cost cap that the FIA managed to do, all four teams were rushed and poorly managed. You only have to look at the amount of name changes the three that made it did before they even started their first weekend. USF1 though was on another level. Run by basically the most incompetent management you could ask for, and built on a steady stream of lies, it was always doomed to fail. People can bag on HRT, Virgin and Lotus all they want, but at least they made it and lasted a few years. The biggest problem all of the teams had were the fact it was a different era to the 1980s and 1990s when pretty much anyone could rock up with a car designed on the back of a cigarette pack and try to race. The budgets were even bigger, the regulations even stricter and the teams already there took things a lot more serious (hence their fight against the budget cap). None of the teams that were given entry would have got out of the pre-quali sessions of years gone by. USF1 for all their faults, lies and even more lies, were hardly the worse offenders in this debacle. That glory rests solely at the feet of the FIA and FOM who never should have opened the doors to such mediocrity in the first place, without a significantly better plan in place.

[@TheREALBillyMan]

They really need to allow Andretti to own his own team. He wanted to have clearance 2 years before the debut season and the team has basically everything set up. With the FIA putting 3 US GPs on the schedule it’s time for a new attempt at an American team (That’s not Haas) and Andretti is probably the best option

[@soisaidtogod4248]

Not deep enough pockets.

[@NR_88]

Ah USF1. What could’ve been. But at the end of the day at least it was just a case of big talk and not being prepared enough. Given other F1 and racing stories it could’ve been a LOT worse. Least we got Logan Sargeant and 3 races.

[@Touchpadse]

When "they were stuck with a 4 year old engine" is considered the good parts, you know your in for a treat

[@vincenzomartino5648]

Who's here after MBS said "I have asked my @FIA team to look at launching an Expressions of Interest process for prospective new teams for the FIA @F1 World Championship"

[@randall814]

And here comes Andretti-Cadillac!

[@corpsecoder_nw6746]

Considering the amount and quality of racing innovation, pedigree of drivers, history and experience coming out of the best of America, it's a crying shame. Penske and Andretti could and should easily be there, but at the same time in today's world, no one can truly sustain themselves completely alone and fully reliant on only themselves. So a team that's American enough is what we should be happy with.

[@hoverpilder1905]

Nice Vid Josh. How about a video about the Death of Manor racing?

[@rudmad00]

Social Media Manager quit after that tweet

[@Troggle84]

Declan Brennan (the dude who made the silly KZbin videos referenced above) is a bit of a character. He's involved in IMSA these days, working in PR for Gradient Racing, primarily. The first time I met him was at Lime Rock Park when Gradient Racing was still CJ Wilson Racing. He'd discovered the night before that CJ Wilson (team owner and former pitcher in MLB) had never seen Key & Peele. So, he spent part of the day in the media center using Photoshop to put some of the faux player names from the East-West college sketches (Ex: Hingle McCringleberry) on a picture of the Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport they were racing at the time.

[@joshuachandra6677]

This is America we're talking about I guaranteed every little aspect that needed to get done was outsourced to some other company. Our government operates like this. we don't fix our roads we outsource it to some private company with zero oversight so they cook the batch in order to come back and fix it next week instead of next year for repairs. I'm sure parallels like this can be drawn to USF1

[@RaianF1]

Breaking update to the story: the Argentine official (and expressident) that was trying to finance the whole Jose Maria Lopez thing just got sentenced to 6 years in prison for money laundering and corruption

[@Limegreenedragon]

One has to wonder about how Argentine polotics would pan out if her hubby, himself a former President didn't die

[@nachoalvarez7171]

​@@Limegreenedragonhe was still alive when she became president, but yes

[@brianbonner9919]

As one of USF1’s first employees I just wanted to say this piece is pretty close to 100% accurate which is a very rare thing when telling this bizarre story. Bravo

[@johndaniels4623]

Man, I miss Speed channel, Bob Varsha, and all that

[@roymcdre9180]

It wouldve been funny if Gene Haas didnt sign the acord and left F1. Which honestly looked very likely when Ferrari got caught cheating and not helping Haas like they were suppose to

[@mateuszzimon8216]

U know if Ferrari given fine same as McLaren for Spy gate, they lose heritage bonuses....

[@ddrennon]

Lived in the area at the time and popped by the shop in the early days. Long on enthusiasm, short on substance…and funding. A pity: Some good people were involved. Ironically, the region has become a mini-hub of carbon-fiber race car tub technology.

[@TheDreserDeviant69]

I`m 43 y.o Serbian guy. Formula 1FAN forewer and I can tell you that never HEARD OFF Stefan GP(Fun fackt Stefan is English Steaven) and i live 100miles from "Stara Pazova"😠as it wrote/says on the billboarded around 9:19 min. mark when Stefan GP is introduced(Opstina STARA PAZOVA )bautiful place!

[@1_5RCBiker]

Scary Peter Windsor is on YT but will not mention USF1. Tells you all you need to know?

[@DasE30Cuz]

Sidenote: Peter Windsor was in the car with Frank Williams when he crashed.

[@christopher6101]

Bout time one of these youtube channels referenced the old "Toaster" web series!

[@featsbeatsgames]

As usual a fantastically made video kudos to you good sir! But a great portion of your video quality is your choice of music. I'd be curious to know what music you use for your videos but can't find any links to or credit for said music.... Even if its your own music would be nice to have the means to download and/or pay for the rights to own the music :D

[@Bagster321]

6:38 I appreciate the use of a smoker's laugh from Jeremy Clarkson

[@jack_2000]

I love how we can tell who it is, just from that

[@clipobserver]

Williams is run by an American Corporation who did promote an American driver to the grid for the 2023 season. I would like to see the FIA approve Andretti Autosports into F1. I'm sure Andretti would hire American drivers or bring back Grosjean to the gird and yes, Grosjean is an Andretti driver. The big question is where they would hire driver if they do get approved, from Indycar or Formula 2?

[@mattiasgarbi9470]

If a driver of theirs wins Formula E the latter.

[@clipobserver]

@@mattiasgarbi9470 There is American talent in the Formula Junior series with Jax Crawford, Kaylen Frederick, and Hunter Yeany along with JM Correa and Brad Benavides. I wonder if putting Grosjean in one of the seats would help Andretti's chances in being on the grid for 2024.

[@clipobserver]

Also, there's Ugo in F4

[@jackmonaghan8477]

Dream is dead until Andretti's quest for a spot on the F1 grid bares fruit.

[@Minardimaniac]

There were even romours that USF1 wanted to purchase the finished F110 chassis if HRT/Campos Meta from Dallara if they failed to pay them.

[@manuelgrothe608]

We Want Port Imperial, Phoenix, Long Beach, Detroit, Indianapolis, and Las Vegas for Formula One!

[@gamingnoah9807]

No we dont!

[@manuelgrothe608]

a return after 10 years of Miami Grand Prix

[@thisusernamewasnttakensomehow]

Haas furiously taking notes rn

[@tobiasz6613]

To be fair to Haas, I really liked how they went about it when they entered, they were smart and by minimising the stuff they had to do in house they got credible results quickly. and apart from sponsorship ("Bad santa" and Uralkali in 21) they're one on the most likeable teams.

[@GrandTrunkWestern85]

I actually miss Bob Varsha Steve Machit (did I spell that right🤷🏻‍♂️) and the legend David Hobbs commentary on the Speed channel.

[@jjw8885]

*Matchett. And he's really good. He used to work for Benetton when Michael Schumacher was there. I've read his books. Really cool insight into the world of Formula One!

[@purwantiallan5089]

Had USF1 Team formed, we may see more than 10 teams in 2022 F1 Season.

[@BrentonStirm]

I remember when they also tried to sign Danica Patrick as a driver for the team, but were unsuccessful

[@frankbieser]

Yes. With the battlements that have been built around the entrenched F-1 teams, the scuttling of Andretti F-1 has made it clear F-1 doesn't really want a US team, just USD.

[@rexthewolf3149]

The want a US manufacturer backed team. Andretti got rejected cause they would just be haas another customer team. I’ve been saying that they need to talk to Chevy

[@PaulGPixelBike]

Hey, Josh can you make a video about Cosworth engines and why they sucked so much in 2010-2013?

[@Axle0Bullitt019]

Would have been funny for a cheeky like joke about Andretti trying to get on the grid at the end of the vid.

[@TheDreserDeviant69]

Great video mate

[@penkus5902]

A StefanGP video incoming?

[@cormify6487]

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[@ZeldaTheSwordsman]

Cosworth engines, hm? I know that back in the '80s Ligier got some excellent performance out of paired Ford Cosworth V-8s. But that was then, dunno what they're like now.

[@AdamTheMan1993]

Cosworth are still around but they mainly make steering wheels now for Indycars, Le Mans Hypercars and Super Formula cars in Japan Edit: Cosworth are also making engines for the Aston Martin, Gordon Murray's car company GMA and even for the new Red Bull Hypercar

[@DF1Plus]

Could you do a video on the Phoenix F1 Team for 2002 that never happened

[@HMB106]

Dead until Andretti Cadillac comes along

[@focofox37]

Oh God, not the Speed channel... Not them

[@crouchb15]

God I miss them

[@focofox37]

@@crouchb15 Speedvision, yes... I miss the WRC, SCCA & LeMans coverage... Speed, no, not at all

[@Skreezilla]

they didn't fail... they made amazing toasters

[@kavitadoshi2588]

Can u do a video just revisiting Jehan darvula

[@tylerdurden4006]

Bcoz they are american and thought the rules shouldn't apply to them and should get really really biased officiating and asked for too much. Really simple to figure it out.

[@tobiasz6613]

I feel like i've burped up a bit of sick every time i'm reminded the Peter Windsor was somewhat culpable for USF1.....

[@robotnikkkk001]

=AND ANDRETTI DOESNT UNDERSTAND EITHER WHAT'S THEY'RE INTO,AS WELL =BECAUSE OF COME ON,BEING A CONSTRUCTOR ISNT THE SAME THAT JUST SET UP DALLARA CHASSIS

[@mrbungle3310]

Id love new teams to come to f1 like real new teams not buying an existing one

[@AntoniusTyas]

7:16 oh the irony. The manufacturer of the machinery they use to... ummm... devise F1 car parts, is now an F1 constructor in and of itself.

[@vhyco_]

As an argentiean motosport fan and a HUUUGE Pechito Lopez fan, the failure of USF1 project became one of my biggest dissapointments watching this sport.. Thank god JML career turned good, specially since he won the Le Man's 24h. Hopefully Argentina will have a new chance in F1 with Colapinto in the near future

[@rodawallace]

I still like Peter, I DO NOT respect him quite so much. This was pretty solid run through of the story. I remember calling "Wind Tunnel" and told Dave; "USF1 isn't hitting any benchmarks, it's over."

[@thejamespitcherable]

Grabbing my popcorn for this one

[@conorburgess4783]

I live in Charlotte and remember the day I was told there was a Charlotte racing team

[@antonmarc3073]

This is the video I unknowingly waited 12 years for

[@TheAllaser]

Hey I like your videos, cause I like the stories you tell. I gotta tell you, none of your jokes land for me.

[@johnvaughan22]

The American f1 dream ain’t dead. It’s still kicking stong w Logan sargent