Joshua Jackson Talks 'When They See Us' And White America's Blind Spots | VIBE

Actor Joshua Jackson talks about the blind spots white America has and other realizations after working on Ava DuVernay's 'When They See Us.'
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[@JNYC212]

THANK YOU JOSHUA JACKSON FOR BEING HONEST AND SAYING THIS!!!

[@stanleystewart8444]

I had to pause when he said he remembers going into his 20s and starting to get head nods and smiles from police. WE REALLY TRULY LIVE IN DIFFERENT UNIVERSES!!!!!! NOT WORLDS - UNIVERSES!

[@Rchelle_YAHsdaughter]

This deserves as many likes as there are views. 💯💯💯

[@JiveGray]

Facts. I remember Ice T, said one time in an interview that that whe he started making enough money, he moved into a white neighborhood, and the police would go door to door singing Christmas carols. Too many white folks in America expect us to see the police through their eyes and from their experiences, but we like you said our experience with cops might as well be in a different universe.

[@Tan87ful]

Exactly

[@jhanturandall2519]

right. in my 20s I was met with suspicion whereas my adopted brother was met with head nods. it was crazy to see

[@kaydenevideo]

Shenequa is KILLING it in these interviews promoting When They See Us. Please, Vibe, give her props for her hard work and professionalism!!

[@abibjahleel419]

I see you Kay lol...I agree excellent interview

[@Angel_Mayberry]

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight!!!! What is her instagram?

[@kristinbracy5189]

Absolutely! She goes deep for the questions, none of that superficial colorful fillers

[@nadjie13]

Agree. She is awesome!

[@jonathanbutler3346]

And now I love Joshua even more

[@ywoodsmall]

Exactly❤💕❤

[@antoniothompson5514]

This is someone who saw the evil and understands why it exists. This art changed him and that’s what art should do ultimately.

[@stillirise4401]

All of her interview questions were excellent with the entire cast

[@atlantabrooklyngal]

From beginning to end! She came out the gate with good hard hitting questions.

[@Littlething41]

Did you see when she cried in front of Niecy Nash, Michael K. White, and I forget the other actress' name??? WOW! I haven't seen the series yet because it hasn't been released in my area but her response to the part when Korey Wise wanted to touch his mom and they dragged him away......man! I about lost it seeing the interviewers reaction to it.

[@atlantabrooklyngal]

@@Littlething41 I know, I started to choke up, because the series touched me in the same way.

[@stillirise4401]

Mrs. Adriann I truly hope you are able to watch it when you can.

[@Binaishere]

One of the best questions and responses I’ve seen so far regarding the Netflix series.

[@JennySieck]

I knew there was a real person in there back when he was playing Pacey. Nice to see such a thoughtful aware person speak about these issues.

[@mrlin1687]

Agreed.

[@mrlin1687]

Loved Pacey!

[@amw7828]

You can’t take black off; white noise static frequency. Best response ever!

[@Littlething41]

And he wasn't afraid to say it!

[@worldtraveler4040]

I can’t take Black Off. 🎤 drop!!

[@perri_6]

@Descendant Travels "feral". 😄👏

[@DeeDiamond2981]

Good to see Josh in a film...esp this one. Ava did a great job with bringing this story to the screen

[@sounsure9108]

Denisa Anthony he did a series called the affair but it was on the wed instead of network and I never figured out how to pay for it, also he was doing theatre

[@gourmet416]

I worked with Joshua for a few years in his home town of Vancouver BC Canada. Canadians have a different outlook on race relations. He was so kind and gracious. I’m so proud that he gets it.

[@MisssKayy]

I've always loved Joshua Jackson since Mighty Ducks!😂 I even named my son Joshua!

[@theycallmedopeness]

Baby Momma I forgot he was in that. My love came during Dawson Creek. Pacey Witter

[@venesiaperry448]

@ilikmusic but the fact that he was able to articulate himself speaks volumes and admit it to himself. U say he doesn't want to be I think he couldn't handle it.

[@alamoja]

@@theycallmedopeness me too. I fell for him in Dawson Creek. Loved me some Pacey.

[@Gwenesis]

@ilikmusic Really insightful observation. However, many of them do want to be Black cuz they want our rhythm but not our blues.

[@Paceme2]

Met him a few times 3 years ago in NY he was doing a play ill Pacey fan ( no shame) Dude got two pics one will forever be my insta profile pic 😂👌🏾

[@coffeebreakwithjayjay578]

Josh Jackson gets it!

[@MrsSonyaKS]

Blair Underwood stays fine. When They See Us was an absolute masterpiece!

[@amw7828]

Sonya S 💯♟😀never cracks

[@cookiewoo2344]

Joshua..great job..I'm,still,numb after watching...People at my job talking bout this movie...Awesome acting..and again to the Central 5..my prayers still* go out to you....

[@-Epiphany]

We will now address them as the Exonerated 5.

[@Rchelle_YAHsdaughter]

What a blessing to hear honest, heartfelt truth be spoken boldly and publicly without the threat of white fragility.

[@faafafineartist]

I love him for this response. REFRESHING to see a white man who is conscious, aware and secure in his own being (cause he gives a shit obviously about other fellow human beings not like him) to just be himself without feeling uncomfortable.

[@fancybrooks3156]

Yes, one aware of his white privilege (though reluctant to say the words).

[@biteoftheday6374]

@ilikmusic but that's being honest. If a white person says he would be happy to be a black person in this climate, he would be lying.

[@tilabryant2948]

This series was the most emotional thing I’ve ever seen I can’t watch it again 😢

[@rollsroyce7385]

Tila Bryant I can imagine..I haven't seen it yet but just the thought of what happened to them.makes me extremely angry and sad..I was 13 in 89'

[@amw7828]

Tila Bryant I can’t watch it; i lived in that era; I’m so ashamed and heartbroken 😩

[@susanchapman760]

I'm surprised no one in the comments mentioned that Joshua is also dating a beautiful Jamaican queen.

[@starboo4617]

Susan Chapman he is 😍?

[@ywoodsmall]

Didn't know!

[@islandgirl8914]

🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲

[@Emily00Strange]

@@starboo4617 - Yeah the lead actress from Queen & Slim, Jodie Smith is her name. They're having a baby as well.

[@Swnsasy]

It was really great to hear Joshua talk about race without the cringe face and thinking it a horrible topic and shouldn't be talked about... What he said it's so absolutely correct...

[@Littlething41]

What was amazing and refreshing is that he had no fear. Admitted to his own crimes while acknowledging that his experience was nowhere near what others experience. Someone else would have danced around the question.

[@crystalfeltham330]

Joshua Jackson is so underrated!!

[@cece82gemini27]

Thank you Joshua Jackson. Well spoken.

[@alisonnowak8289]

Very eloquent and non condescending. He speaks like he just understands, not trying to speak because he has to. He doesn’t speak one side to another, he speaks of honest day to day life. Something people turn a blind eye to. After watching him in several interviews he has a way about him that most actors don’t have now adays. A perception and a truth and he speaks like he’s not trying to prove or forced to prove anything. This is life and he speaks about everything that way

[@winter_s_44]

I always quote Tim Wise from when he discussed the fact that privilege is what you get to ignore. As a member of ANY majority group, there are things and angles you never have to think about and it goes for whites, men, heterosexual, cisgendered, seeing, hearing, whatever. He was so right and I came to realize that as members of the majority, you are in the driver’s seat, so to speak, and you have huge blind spots trying to tell people who aren’t even in the car what is there and what is not. You don’t realize the calamity you are creating by not shoulder-checking yourself and not even taking their word for it, but continuing on in a foolhardy manner. I remember when I was watching “Hidden Figures” during Taraji P. Henson’s bathroom scene, and I thought: “this is EXACTLY how white privilege and blind spots work!” Here it was at the height of Jim Crow where it was clear to see the “Whites Only” signs, yet a white man was completely oblivious to the fact that a black woman employed by him would have to run across campus to use the restroom because there were no “Colored” bathrooms there. He walked by the “Colored” coffee pot each day. It was obvious, but he still didn’t see it. So, also in the words of Tim Wise, even when it was obvious, you still saw no problem, so now that it is less obvious yet still ever present, you really think we should trust your gauge? Historically, you have been wrong. You need to start listening to us now, and you need to understand that “white privilege” is not an insult anymore than it is an insult to speak of cisgendered privilege or a hearing privilege. It just means there are things you get to ignore, and because you can (and often do), you do not also get to dictate what is valid and what is not.

[@universalsoldier2293]

In my experience, men generally are oblivious to most things their employees have to endure, regardless of the color of the boss or the employees. I know you're trying to make a point here, but it's probably not the best example.

[@winter_s_44]

Universal Soldier Wrong. A black man in that position would have no choice but to be aware of the fact that there were no “Colored” restrooms because he too would be unable to use the restrooms in his own building. So, you are wrong. This was a WHITE privilege by a WHITE MALE boss and his color cannot be overlooked. You cannot boil it down to “well, men are oblivious”. No. Men get to be oblivious to all that doesn’t directly effect them (as I said in my original post) and in this case it was twofold: being MALE and being WHITE.

[@universalsoldier2293]

@@winter_s_44 I see the confusion: I was talking about bosses today in 2019, not about the movie. I concede that there is a lot of white privilege going on, but people of any color in power are a problem in my world. It goes to their head, and they tend to be oblivious to the people they are overseeing.

[@karonmcgregor4753]

And he's now married and had a baby daughter with the most STUNNING British black model. Jodie Smith is feisty, and she'll definitely keep him on his toes lol. Still looking for pics of the baby as she must be a gorgeous mix of her mom and dad.

[@starbucksgirl6715]

A really good thought provoking question and a thoughtful reflective answer.

[@shonalovely2143]

Always have loved Joshua!

[@j.riffney7939]

J.J. was 1 of my childhood crushes. Thank you for seeing the wrong and stating the right. Great movie for all!

[@jerseyjay1550]

Good dude. "Thank you" lol. Shit that was a great response. I thought I was watching a movie

[@dayswithcece]

I love him! When i seen him on the show i was like YO THAT MY NIGGA PACEY FROM DAWSON CREEK!!! Yesssssss

[@odetteanderson147]

Damn I love Joshua Jackson

[@beegood3372]

Such an ARTICULATE, RESPECTFUL, POIGNANT, & HONEST answer to such a heavy question!!!! I've LOVED "Mr. Jackson" (LOL) since Dawson's Creek and NOW I can say he is def an ALLY!!!! MUCH LOVE Joshua!!!!! ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

[@daishaoutar5128]

Man, I really wish more white people would see or at least not deny those blind spots....

[@Agent-sk7ci]

If you see it, then you have to acknowledge it. Then, if you acknowledge it, you have to take a long, honest look within yourself to see the negatives you bring to the table, or the positives you take away. Then, finally, you have to do something about it. Something for the good, which takes hard work and humility. See? Waaaay too much work. Let’s just respond with “Hey! All Lives Matter!”, and go home.🙂

[@cynthiafameitau2201]

And this is why I always had a crush on pacey

[@annoneal665]

Powerfully and profoundly said.

[@amw7828]

💯🔥

[@EvaAnika]

Joshua Jackson, with your fine self, keep educating your people. This is wonderful.

[@kristinbracy5189]

Bravo Shenequa for asking the tough questions, your interviews are brilliant and beyond the surface 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@-Epiphany]

Oh she ready..

[@leeleemo6310]

He gets it

[@peacefreedom4930]

Now, go out and spread the knowledge

[@lovenevadawms9562]

Man Joshua I hv sooo much respect for u!! Thank u

[@shervellebergholz]

Joshua Jackson gave a profound answer.. Nice!!

[@e.7619]

So clever Joshua ! So handsome and talented! Love you Joshua Jackson.

[@mrscpjones16]

People please google Issac Woodward. He was a WWII veteran. Look what they did to him. Unreal. Please share his story with everyone. Thank you.

[@swissbeats2k]

My boy Joshua, been a fan since Mighty Ducks and remember he ain't no ordinary racist white American he's Canadian.

[@YouSsef-uw5if]

Brilliant response!

[@stellank7931]

Made me cry..

[@skyblue7541]

Thank u 4 telling the honest truth

[@joelybgood]

Thank you Joshua for GETTING IT.

[@rashaunjones1027]

Checking it out

[@lucretiabagley2494]

Good 1st question!

[@erniemarshall4203]

Very honest

[@AF-xg1hp]

Wheres the full interview??

[@juliennea387]

👏👏

[@LiyaZuluM]

💕

[@librnx1988]

Pacey you continue to always Amaze Me lol 😁 A Truthful response" You cant take Black off" Let alone ever have to feel the need to...

[@Real-ez2lg]

My guy from The Might Ducks! #solidcat

[@maryamaz4645]

JJ my child crush since Mighty Ducks Teen Crush since Dawson's Creek and Now no longer a crush but much respect and love 🖤✊🏾

[@anegron516]

Joshua Jackson >>>>>

[@loyalty773]

I have NOT seen it yet.. I will watch I promise.. I will put my emotions aside but I cant watch then go to work.. Im already a semi- conscience female (still learning) and Im sure this will make me upset as Im already problack

[@farahgaston8883]

There’s no putting your feelings aside. Idk if you have seen it yet but your emotions are on your sleeve... they are your glove on this one... you will be yelling and screaming at the tv. Those monsters did not one thing right from the get go. 😢

[@mr_jeff2932]

Great job Joshua Jackson! By insisting that such privileges do exist.

[@rubychew6535]

Jackson understands that being a kid no matter what race you are is that kids mess up because they aren't mature at this time. He realized that he had opportunities that would help him economically and the fact that he is white. You must remember that black boys and black men still deal with the same issues whether they are mature or not. The opportunities for them can still be limitless whether he don't graduate from high school or if he obtains a PHD. People see black first, and then, people start to dissect you.

[@dakritic]

She just fell in love with a white man 😍😂. Love is blind and beautiful.

[@BirdsEyeViewCaCaww]

🙄 I don't think her affirmation of his experiences and the perspective he shared means she fell for him... Might just be me tho

[@dakritic]

BirdsEyeViewCaCaww: Get over yourself. It’s a fucking joke. Hence the laughing emoji.

[@jacewoods411]

Way to go Pacey

[@MightMouse2174]

I knew that was him I just couldn't remember his name

[@fedorah8315]

Is this Fringe Peter?

[@rubyscott6685]

Fedorah yes

[@jadedapple3995]

This Dude is Woke AF!👀

[@Probably.Prosperity]

We love a good woke white man.

[@Ntombi_Red]

This Jackson guy looks like Euron Greyjoy 🤔

[@xerolimitation3156]

The might ducks

[@gorgeouslady5612]

Just for their Exsinstance!.

[@gorgeouslady5612]

Abolitiontst need to come Back From the past and fight for the Freedom of Black people in 2019!.

[@dianajohnson9928]

No, they deserve to rest in peace, they have earned that right. It is now up to us to protect and expand upon what they have achieved and stop waiting for someone else to stand-up for us.

[@karmencummings5463]

@@dianajohnson9928 thank you soo much for reiterating this point...we (including myself) must focus on the laws and vote, not just for president, but in other elections because it matters...anger/frustration alone isn't going to do it...we must take a stand and MOVE as well... blessings : ) ...abolitionist didn't stop as times got hard, neither should we!

[@nialcc]

No, black men need to be men, stop blaming "single mothers", stop trying to be women and fight for themselves and their women and children and their own freedom. Until then this is the past, present and will be the future.

[@nialcc]

@@karmencummings5463 - Vote? Black folks have been voting for decades and nothing as changed. Its time to NOT VOTE until they prove to us they deserve our vote. And yes, I'm talking about the Democrats. All of them have records on how they feel about black folks we have to make sure they know we know.

[@samaralawrentz1564]

Splainin

[@Sab_MJsMama]

In all honesty, he would be an excellent teacher in teaching white folks or any other non-poc about how to be more authentic allies. It's tough for them to not get defensive and not feel attacked when talking race relations. A lingering guilt, sure, but get over that shit (and be willing to listen) so we can move to the next step of making changes in the system.

[@alexespinoza6366]

The movie/miniseries is good but I just didn’t buy Joshua Jackson as a lawyer. I kept seeing shades of Jesse Metcalfe in God’s Not Dead 2 whenever he was onscreen.

[@eminosose]

I'm guessing this is Joshua Jackson is from an alternate universe...ahem *Joshuanate*

[@marianb2530]

Blair Underwood looks great after all these years!

[@lilyzemengist8091]

All you white people take notes, yes even if you have spanish in you (Spain is in Europe where white people come from). On that note, if you are a person of color and have a friend, lover, family member that's white who is actively combating racism (micro or macro), give that ally a thank you hug🤗👍🏿

[@ontheaux336]

I always thought Pacey was cool.

[@UXtatic]

He woke.

[@nialcc]

Are you sure?

[@MichelleBrown-pj6qr]

Well we know he's woke!!!

[@mikewright3029]

"...white noise..." :|

[@KennethandJoyce]

Joshua Jackson sounds just like Patricia brights husband. Anyway what happened to those men shouldn’t happen to no one. it’s hard to be black in America.

[@emilystitham6362]

#cancellindafairstein

[@breakthewheelnow8223]

Make sure you're registered and VOTE Trump OUT 2020!!!!

[@bitcoinmaster3634]

It would've been funny if he said 'I don't see color'.

[@rubyscott6685]

Bitcoin Master no, it would not be funny because it has never been funny. But there is something funny about your brain....

[@reneeknight1028]

He gets it