I feel like argostar is very similar to Invoked. In decks that don't need a normal summon, you can just play Adra, which converts into Tydel + Eteo + discard a card to search the fieldspell for two pseudo-negates and a bounce. This is all from just one wave of support. If future support allows the archetype to extend even a little bit further, you can make silouhatte rabbit for anguish pattern and use one of the trap monster for a Time Thief Redoer bounce, ending on a very respectable endboard of varied interaction.
@bernardoabfАй бұрын
That makes sense, but it looks weak as the pseudo-negates are very "pseudo" if the field spell triggers on the next chain. The payoff isn't worth playing 3 bricks it seems.
@MomirViggwilvАй бұрын
@@bernardoabf The negates are not useless, merely difficult to use. If you're smart you can make them work. E.G. if your opponent adds poplar to hand, you can chain one of your trap monsters. Then in a new chain, your field spell will negate the poplar's on-summon effect.
@MetronaJАй бұрын
@@bernardoabfTBF if you get them both on board before your opponent's turn that's a total of 4 different psuedo negates which is still a lot
@ageha6607Ай бұрын
Deck is very nice to play when getting paired with small ryzeal package. You basically have 18 free slots for non-engine. The fact that the field spell is a once per chain means you can combat against any type of sequencing opponent would try to do. Deck is extremely fast at pushing in damage as well. Here is some random trivia: the field spell get to negate a card even if opponent stop the trap cards effect to return to S/T zone because it only requires effect of a trap to be activated in monster card zone. If you use ryzeal engine, you can normal summon adra, place tydel and eeto on the field, use tydel search 2nd eeto fron the deck, use ryzeal to send aggregator, ryzeal search eff cl1, aggregator target tydel in monster zone cl2. Since tydel got negated, it will go back to S/T and forget that it has already activated this turn. So you can discard 2nd eeto, search field, add back 2nd eeto and now you have 2 bounce in the back
@flackenstienАй бұрын
These aren't anything crazy yet, but they're bound to get more cards, and they are clearly designed to work with all past and future Trap Monster support. (Of which they have been printing alot of lately.)
@mrharvy100Ай бұрын
FYI trap monsters that are Cont traps. Remember lot of them are normal traps.
@flackenstienАй бұрын
@@mrharvy100 There's atleast 50 Continuous Traps that summon themselves as monsters, vs like 21 Normal Traps that do.
@kusanagi-no-tachi5303Ай бұрын
@@flackenstienand the good ones are basically all paleo lmao
@durphymcbob6951Ай бұрын
The deck might not be good but they are all level 4 trap monsters they can do some funky stuff with time thief
@robertf1309Ай бұрын
All I see with this is Dimension Shifter lol
@MatatoskrАй бұрын
The devk isnt as weak as it seems at 1st glance imo.
@Lynmaru_Ай бұрын
They look potentially fun I'll be waiting for the ED monsters that will surely make the deck t1
@comettcg8830Ай бұрын
not gonna say it's amazing in powerlevel or something, but I like the design that this archtype are pretty immune to mulchurmies
@nyx-lm8ecАй бұрын
for the runick hybrid I feel like the fact that you can make Bujintei Tsukuyomi with the two traps needs to be highlighted, it's most of the times a +2 (+1 when you activate it with one card in hand and +1 on the next fountain activation, if you kept a runick card as your discard). To take full advantage of this you need the ability to set almost everything in your hand, which usually wouldn't mesh well with handtraps, but nowadays you can run imperm and dominus purge
@JorgeLuiz487Ай бұрын
Home stadium burn effect reminded of that odion skill for duel links that is also meant for trap monsters
@MomirViggwilvАй бұрын
This archetype goes crazy with Time Thief Redoer
@marlonb.4017Ай бұрын
The problem is that the consistency is not there, you need at least 6 more ways to get to the Monster, the best you can do is 7th, but that’s a -1, that’s rough. Also then you can only XYZ, so you can go Re-doer but, not monster so it doesn’t defend itself. It’s pretty weak, but to be fair, it does make the Trap monster deck ever so playable. field spell should’ve add from anywhere, than that was 8 starers, and it might’ve been playable 🥹 ugh.
@MetronaJАй бұрын
Currently the ways to get to them are: Rota (which is limited) Seventh tachyon Seventh ascension into tachyon M-X saber (via any rank 3 package) Galaxy Photon Dragon into primal tachyon into seventh tachyon (via non-normal summoning rank 4 package) Dragluxion into seventh tachyon (via rank 8 package)
@nickd6303Ай бұрын
Argo stars kinda work well with sky striker.
@xavierdurham1024Ай бұрын
Unending Nightmare, Trap Eater, and Magical Spring buyouts are around the corned if this ends up being a meta contender.
@obskewerd3992Ай бұрын
Finally a deck where Boompoline makes sense :D
@k.s.m.1197Ай бұрын
Silent swordsman support
@garfrockbreadtrollАй бұрын
runick argostars is finna go crazy
@Asim-nm1bcАй бұрын
they both need the field spell, so no
@mrharvy100Ай бұрын
The Arg field isn’t even good especially compared to Fountain lol. It’s not like a Visas pile situation where running multiple of the planet spells make sense because they all at least +1 on activation.
@Ice_IcembАй бұрын
@@mrharvy100the deck is pretty worthless without the field spell
@LinkoLankaoАй бұрын
runicking your mom gonna go even crazier
@Asim-nm1bcАй бұрын
@@Ice_Icemb yes
@c_spareАй бұрын
Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't the effect that activates to put the continuous traps back in the S/T zone also trigger the field spell in the same chain? That would make the effect to tag out essentially a quick effect face-up card negate that can be activated as many times as you have face-up ARGOS traps. Seems incredibly strong
@arawyn9974Ай бұрын
Triggers on a new chain, not the same chain
@Meme-pg5twАй бұрын
ive played this deck a decent amount since it got put onto simulators, it NEEDS another engine to work at all since if you dont open the 1 monster your traps and field spell dont do anything, silhouhatte searches anything, m-x saber invoker is the only real way to search it, the puppet chess engine can search it, the problem there is that lets your opponent search quite literally any monster in the game, the deck does not have a chance if drytron goes first, the normal summon effect is activated so if they activate the drytron negate on it you cant banish it
@SwanK194Ай бұрын
gonna try to splash this in vaalmonica
@Petsinwinter2Ай бұрын
I think the biggest problem with trying to splash this in Vaal is that this'll be competing for space between the Scales with Followed Rhythm, Creation, and Ereditare.
@SwanK194Ай бұрын
@Petsinwinter2 I don't really see that as a problem, worst case scenario I keep one vaal trap in the grave to use with the link instead of keeping it on the field. The bigger problem is getting the main deck monster on the field since I would need it in my hand before I pend summon. If I get the setting effect off I can just jungle the trap monsters during the opponents turn.
@Petsinwinter2Ай бұрын
@@SwanK194 yes, you can copy the normal traps with Zebufera, but they also have a continuous and a counter trap they like to keep in rotation, plus you'd be surprised what a difference 2 or even 3 or 4 uses of followed rhythm makes because you set it on the field. I could only see these Archetypes working together if the pendulum zones were somehow separate zones again.
@SwanK194Ай бұрын
@Petsinwinter2 truth be told I'm banking on Argo getting an xyz and hoping that completes the puzzle.
@esrohm6460Ай бұрын
today i learned about runic argos stun
@rafflesiaandfriendsАй бұрын
It would be good in duel links, maybe
@nightphoenixvАй бұрын
No where need good enough. They are asking for two card spaces as well . They want to take a spell and trap card slot other wise there's no where to put them when they want to be a trap card again so you need to keep them open but they don't have effects that feel like it's worth taking up two field slots. The kinda slow trap decks that want to control the game needs the back row and then they fill the monster zone too
@raymoo8504Ай бұрын
powercrept eldlich
@semisolaire5866Ай бұрын
Uria otk?
@astrocat4444Ай бұрын
These would be really good in Ryzeal as an engine , no?
@TruAbsoluteZer0Ай бұрын
Been waiting on this gang
@unique.builder9561Ай бұрын
The issue I see is lightning storm or feather duster and get otkd
@Cyberkid545Ай бұрын
so every control deck that exists basically
@HappyeyeАй бұрын
Me when lord of the heavenly prison
@mrharvy100Ай бұрын
@Cyberkid545 lol no. Plenty of control decks either stop or can play thru a single HFD. Traptrix literally has as a LOTHP function in deck, Lab has interactions in both grave and hand, Dinomorphia runs a ton of counter traps that beat the 1 of HFD, etc.
@unique.builder9561Ай бұрын
@@mrharvy100 lol thanks, some people don’t get it
@HumanoidCableDreadsАй бұрын
Josh seemed to miss the point of this deck. It's a burn deck with a lot of control. If you run Statue of Anguish Pattern you can pop at least three cards a turn and then negate another three cards with the field spell. Been playing it online and winning against meta decks.
@ryanager8029Ай бұрын
As it stands, Argostars aren’t there yet. Like, couldn’t compete in Duel Links 2 years ago levels of not there. Either they need insane waves of future support, or they need to be paired with another control deck they synergise with well, ideally a monster focused Warrior deck that doesn’t need their normal summon.
@nguyenminhquan7975Ай бұрын
Today I learned about runick Argostar
@Drident_passАй бұрын
God not another archetype with star in the name. Live twins was already annoying to look up
@CMbReCkАй бұрын
Wow, why ygo community is so crybaby and whiney
@humanyoutubeuserАй бұрын
nah I'd rather have a card be a bit harder to search up and have better aesthetics. We already saw konami screw up with maliss if you want to search up a card it's not like there's any lack of details like attributes types stars.
@mushroom_goblinkaok4377Ай бұрын
@@CMbReCk i think u misunderstood what he was triyng to say. or maybe u just like being inconvenienced?
@adanganaafan2811Ай бұрын
Yoooo it’s the Pure Fire King Guy, I loved your tutorial
@CoeussamohtАй бұрын
@@mushroom_goblinkaok4377nah he right, the guy sounds like a btch
@plabcentral630Ай бұрын
Will it beat snake eyes? No. Thank you that is all.
@JeebleyJimАй бұрын
field spell negate not being an additional effect or at least quick feels like a huge oversight when the cards only seem good at perpetually reactivating, could've at least given them 3 in-engine hrdabyss triggers to survive their board being broken
@HumanoidCableDreadsАй бұрын
The field spell burns when you go in and out of the backrow, that is the wincon.
@HumanoidCableDreadsАй бұрын
The field spell gives you multiple negates a turn, how is that bad?
@JeebleyJimАй бұрын
@@HumanoidCableDreads they start a new chain, so A) they only really get some disruptive mileage against a few cards being played, like sangen summoning or promethian princess and B) can't defensively negate anything in an archetype that uses 2+ of your s/t zones at all times (trap monsters are also always vulnerable to backrow ls/hfd regardless of what zone there in)
@LuminousplayerАй бұрын
the concept is nice but the first two trap monsters are awful and do almost nothing, these are time thief redoer bounce enablers at best, this deck needs more to have any chance
@FafliXxАй бұрын
I agree that they're not good enough yet, but at some point there will be a critical mass of them. This are only 5 cards, and I expect more. There are cards like "That's 10" and "You're Finished", Apophis the Swamp Deity. Once this reaches a critical mass, you could totally build some kind of cool pile deck with them.
@Drko_KaneАй бұрын
If this deck visuals were more like jack in the box then I think the deck would hit a lot harder. As is the deck does 🤷🏿♂️
@flappy7305Ай бұрын
I like the design, But not the artworks.
@animeking5390Ай бұрын
First
@chancesellars9546Ай бұрын
God joshes hair cut sucks so bad it’s distracting
@mrharvy100Ай бұрын
They are obviously gonna get another wave. It’s trash right now. Field spell is a 1 of at most, 1 actual starter monsters, and the 3 trap monsters varies in quality with the bounce one being the best disrupt. This is basically worse Centurion/Lab/and even Eld tbh. On bright side this looks like a Shifter friendly deck, but there are better Shifter decks lol. Reminder this is a game where trap decks like Lab can do things like turn 0 Arias + Daruma to end your turn.
@HumanoidCableDreadsАй бұрын
You aren't looking at the full picture. You are supposed to play this deck with other trap monsters, like Statue of Anguish Pattern or the Tiki cards.
@arrownoirАй бұрын
This is so underwhelming.
@TheIncinerator12Ай бұрын
absurdly terrible cards
@lament22Ай бұрын
his hair is the definition of "let it go lil bro"
@In.New.York.I.Milly.Rock.Ай бұрын
Jesus, get a job, you have over 35 comments hating on multiple videos on the channel.
@lament22Ай бұрын
@@In.New.York.I.Milly.Rock. not all of those 35 comments are "hate" comments, i used to think this guy was ok also he really doesnt need you slobbering on it, take your own advice and find a serious job... one that doesnt put so much strain on your knees