Naked GoPro & Hero 10 Bones | pinio tutorial start stop recording with aux switch

[@tjc]

I've searched high and low for how to do this and finally Google gave me this video. This is how the GoPro Hero 10 Bones is designed as well. It took me WAY too long to find this info and GoPro doesn't spell it out in the paperwork unless I simply overlooked it. Thanks for yet another awesome tutorial that was exactly what I needed and nothing more!

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I've added Hero 10 Bones to this video's title because the process is exactly the same for that cam as for any other Naked GoPro. Don't let the fact that I don't actually mention the Bones in the video throw you off.

[@rosstroha2132]

Hey is this still applicable with the current version of Configurator? There's a firmware flashing options called "CAMERA CONTROL", so I'm not sure if I should be doing it this way or not still. Also, I have a hobbywing xrotor f7 with a specific pad for camera control. Thanks!

[@nikich375]

You can also trigger user mode just in the middle position. So when you pull the switch downwards it goes through it, but then stops at the end. That way whenever you move a switch from most downwards to most upwards position it will always trigger this mode and you can tell if it's recording or not just by looking at your switch position.

[@EliteFpv]

That’s exactly what I was going to suggest

[@eliasarielmarks5100]

Will try this out, if it's reliable it would be amazing

[@mavicair2fpvmode289]

Be careful with Geprc’s bec board for gopro8 naked, is faulty kzbin.info/www/bejne/fV6apYyrpKyUb8U

[@vsobolev]

Also, it will be good to set PREARM on bottom switch position to get it in default position before drone armed. What you think? UPDATE: well, I've tried, its not working due to prearm should be switched somewhere out of prearm position before next arm...

[@coolhands21]

Wait --- I can combine my fountain pen obsession AND my quadcopter obsession onto one KZbin channel?! Take My Money!

[@scottsouthard6491]

So it sounds to me like a momentary button would be ideal for this.

[@Jake.reeves]

Exactly what I thought. No reason why I can't put it on the same switch as the beeper.

[@r.eyvprdctn]

or use a spare trim switch defined as a logical switch

[@bluemnm0814]

i was thinking the same exact same thing.

[@tjc]

Thanks!

[@h2o-fpv623]

That's cool but why not use the momentary switch?

[@HotboiEngineering]

A lot of people use that for the beeper and pre-arm

[@daveschierman8457]

Check out GoPro Labs and using QR Codes to change camera settings. The ability to instantly change to your favorite setting by putting a QR code in front of the camera is awesome in itself but the "Motion Start" feature is priceless for FPV. Starts recording when you take off, stops when you land.

[@jeevandewee]

You can with auto start on motion sensor in the gorpo or timer after QR code insert :D

[@fatpoorvagrant3662]

I just find life easier when I just use the same components you use. I love the JB F7 FC, and that t-shirt! 🤘😎👍

[@MsStevieWoo]

Done this with the explorer LR4 v2 so it triggers the runcam split 3 nano. Remapped all aux and freed up an aux to use as record & cam control. My radio is on opentx so used a combined aux and logical switches, I gave the switches a time of 0.2ms operation so it acted like a momentary switch. I compiled how to do it thanks to watching a few of your older vids - thank you for your service to this hobby x

[@idkfpv6435]

Really good tutorial, very well explained!! Don't need it but always good to know it's out there

[@juliannojungle]

I have an og Runcam dvr that doesn't have an uart on it, but the start/stop button on it connects signal to gnd. I just soldered a wire from button's signal pin to the buzzer pin on flight controller. The buzzer pin is the only one that switch gnd rather than signal on a flight controller. Than I now can start/stop recording on the radio using pinio beautifully! 🙌🏻🎉🚀👍🏻 In fact using this method you can turn on/off almost any device. You just need to figure out what are their power buttons doing (connecting signal to gnd or signal to vcc) to know where to put it on the FC.

[@thelemonenergy609]

I requested that tutorial, thanks for delivering! 2 things i would like to add: 1. Put the mode on a button that bounces back if possible. Like the right shoulder button of a taranis 2. You can use a 3.3v microcontroller (3-5gram extra) to convert an arm signal to a button press to automatically record whenever it is armed. I did that sucessfully.

[@leonard1108]

Why don’t you program the switch so that ist’s only in the middle position on? If you won’t to start recording pul the switch completely down and if you won’t to stop the put the switch completely up.

[@TroyleDrums]

Hey JB, with a bit of mixer magic on the TX, you can make a switch act like a button press. Combination of mixer, logical switches and special functions With this you can start recording when you arm the quad for example :)

[@jameslee6881]

Very intrested in this

[@YorkyPoo_UAV]

"Joshua from the future here. You will need to look back at this when your GP Hero 10 Bones is released."

[@VincentFischer]

it's easy to configure in opentx a Logical Switch ("Edge" function) that does the button press timing always right

[@JoshuaBardwell]

That's very clever actually.

[@BuddsSkyCam]

How? I find mine missing sometimes

[@ravfpv6201]

Thanks Joshua I knew it wouldn’t be as simple as picking a uart and assigning a channel. Well explained as always

[@sascha-lucke]

create Action and simulated switch in OpenTX. Switch sets 1s to HIGH and then to low when from arm=0 to arm=1 and the other way. Then you can arm, the simulated switch turns video recording on, disarm the same, turns video recording off?!

[@KernsJW]

If you have the tx16s, it has two additional switch outputs available. I installed a push button for this. Placement took a bit to figure out. Before that, i had it on a three position switch with flight mode. Angle on bottom position, camera in middle, so when I went to land and used angle, it shutoff.

[@HotboiEngineering]

Make middle switch position the active position. That way one full swing of the switch can start/ stop recording.

[@oneperspective8601]

Perfect timing. And I’m just gonna use my momentary switch for the recording

[@ozdemirsalik]

You can actually connect the GoPro to a vtx with an av converter chip. I can actually design a PCB for that, but I don’t know if it’s worth the hassle.

[@Happy_FPV]

Some radios like the Tx16s have a momentary switch you could use or like the tango2 have momentary buttons.

[@matt0725]

Momentary switch would be my best friend here. Also, if you use open TX radios ( and maybe others too but I’m not sure) you can add an audio output from the radio when a certain switch is pressed. You can add a range in the controller to say something out loud when you activate/deactivate the camera switch. I personally use this for my horizon/acro/turtle mode switch because I don’t like the OSD having it up all the time when it usually is in acro

[@pieproducer]

i assigned one of the buttons on the back of the tango2,works great,thanks.just want to point out,i dont know if its just me but with the gopro connected and powered this way,u cant connect to it via wifi to gopro quik or gopro tools phone apps plus this seems to bypass the record button on the geprc case so that doesnt work either.I had to connect the gopro direct to a battery to be able to control and configure the gopro with phone apps.

[@soupboy4310]

You can use some sort of logic mode to send pulses each time the switch is moved so it functions like a toggle

[@angelociunci]

I followed the procedure with a HOMFPV Wingsuit S (FC TRANSTECF7HD) using RX5 connected to a Bec Iflight for Gopro 8 naked. When connect the LIPO the gopro led remains steady red and the gopro nn is usable. I also inverted (ON / OFF) the positions of the Aux but it doesn't go. Always fixed led and frozen Gopro.

[@oso3557]

The third cable often bricks the naked hero 6 (temporarily) and it's recommend not to use it.

[@REDROBRCFPV]

I agree, this a well known issue. I would not recommend people use this feature.

[@donxavier9339]

What causing it?, any idea. Something like different voltage level or wrong switch timing etc..

[@oso3557]

@@donxavier9339 No idea. Just stops working. After cutting the cable, it worked again🤷‍♂️

[@connorcunningham7449]

This issue has plagued naked gopro community since the beginning

[@oliverpapenbreer6235]

Yes, same experience here! Do not use the yellow wire for the gopro 6!

[@dmitry.murashenkov]

There is even simpler way with exactly zero button presses! Gopro labs firmware allows you to setup automatic recording while the camera is moving (gyro+accel). So you set it up, power the quad, once motors start spinning the recording will start (depending on sensitivity - start threshold can be set very low so vibrations from motors will trigger it), when quad stops moving the recording stops, just take off the battery. You can configure sensitivity - how much movement required to start/stop recording and how much to wait after movement stopped before stopping recording.

[@BuddsSkyCam]

Need to try this

[@mydubrules2]

Something that could have been mentioned here for the Hero 10 Bones (may also be applicable to other cameras) is to check and set the pinio_config value to 129 for the appropriate pinio that you're using. The symptom you'll see on the Bones, if QuikCapture is enabled, is that the camera will start a TimeWarp recording as soon as you plug in a battery, but you can still control the camera after that.

[@HigherXFPV]

how do you set the value to 129 im having this issue

[@JavisHD]

@@HigherXFPV set pinio_config = 129,1,1,1

[@RobertMehrer]

You can add momentary buttons on the TX16s in the two open plugs and set this up with a momentary button (SI, SJ), you should do a video of that josh. You can set trim 5 and trim 6 as edge logical switches or just add some to the radio with drilling and adding a switch. Since they are momentary it would work like the button press.

[@IgnoranceParanoia]

I set this up with the SMO4K when I got it. The best way I found to set the mode channel up was to have the slider in the middle pos, so that as the aux channel goes past the mid pos to the bottom of the 3 pos switch it starts / stops recording. But since I can't reliably tell if the camera has started or stopped recording I've gone back to using the buttons.

[@kreativ_corals]

Orqa has tried implementing this into their goggles. I can long press a button on the goggles and it starts recording on the GoPro and also gives you a visual key to show recording has started. Pretty nifty!

[@ForestLionhart]

I learned something today.

[@jkob_k0452]

Would be awsome to see a osd feature where u can see the status of an particular aux switch

[@marcosmartinezgarcia]

Thank you, Joshua! Is there a module for a gopro 9 black that can do the same and maybe also remove the battery? And, why the DJI controller has a button that does not looks like an AUX and seems not useful for anything, maybe can be used for this? Cheers!

[@TechnicallyTom]

Something I would add to this is that if you are not using the DJI controller, you can use a momentary switch. Most of the other controllers only have one momentary switch, but you can turn trims off, which we never use for quads and use a trim switch as a momentary switch.

[@timour470]

i fu..ing love this guy. joshua has a tutorial for every problem i find on my builds.

[@richardburrows1610]

Great job. Nobody else ever explained this before (even the manufacturer). Thank you!

[@connorcunningham7449]

There's a reason for that and its because in the past its only worked for a little only to eventually fry the gopro. I hope geprc's actually works

[@plastinaf]

Hi Joshua Thank you for this tutorial it helped me a lot. it works perfectly when the switch is on the left (power on auto start). I connect the battery to my drone and the camera starts up. I don't like this mode because the camera heats up while the GPS finds the satellites. I use the SH switch on my T16 this which is stealth. The camera starts and stops recording perfectly. On the other hand, if the switch is on the right (need manual start) I connect the battery to the drone, the camera does not start up and the LED is fixed red. I press the mode or rec button but nothing happens camera does not start. I don't understand why it doesn't work. Thanks for your help.

[@genesisfpv]

This would be fantastic for my runcam split 3 or other onboard HD cams, the little red light in the corner is easy enough to see and not worry about if i am recording or not. But default settings is power on=rec and i definitely believe in Record everything and extra then crop later.. Having this ability has some plus side but just buy a bigger SD card and you're better off.

[@BallPingFpv]

I love your Chanel thanks for everything you do for the community

[@sdellava]

Super useful tutorial. Actually on my Jumper T18 I've a the perfect switch to control the gopro button. It is the SH that once activated jump back to the -100 position. Now I've a question for you: I'd like to play a track when the recording start and one when stop. Is it possible ?

[@MrTimmyGT]

Thanks JB, was just about to try and figure this out on my own. Thanks for saving me some time!

[@jmckenna2k10]

Is it safe to wire the voltage and ground wires to a 9v and gnd pad, even if something else is also on the 9v? In my case, I've already got a SharkByte VTX on my 9v pad and want to use that same pad to power the nekkid GoPro. If that's not ok, will the naked 8 work with a 5v output pad?

[@deusmax]

I followed step by step .. but unfortunately with gopro8 naked it doesn't work .. the red led stays on steady .. and the camera locks please help

[@beatboxx713]

This is something I always wanted a tutorial for and now I finally got it!!! Thanks Joshua. To be fair though, you had already helped me set this up months ago through one of the superchats on one of your live streams! 😬 The only question I still have left over is for the SMO4K cam. What is the "Remote Power Cable" for (Blue Wire)? What voltage does it get hooked up to? I can only assume it is a power cable that allows you to turn on the camera with the record "button" (switch). Like when you press record on a GoPro when it is off and it powers on the camera and starts recording... right?

[@LittleMissRollerCoaster]

one of the most useful tutorial! woohoo! Thanks JB, learnt something again today!

[@highducky420]

a lot of gp 6 bec boards burned out with this mod. I wouldnt try it on a gp6 , maybe the gp8 is better for this i dont know

[@nogod4me_fpv]

Does NOT work with naked Hero10 in NamelessRC case with its BEC. But perfectly worked with SMO4K

[@JasonEllingsworth]

so this is best put on a momentary switch or button if your transmitter has one

[@cyrcoprod]

My naked GepRC gopro 11 can't start with the rec signal connected to the LED_strip pad of the flight controller (Cinelog25), even after proper configuration following this great tutorial from JB. Without any REC yellow cable the Gopro is running totally fine.. Anyone experimenting the same issue ?

[@kenb6565]

Just a note for anyone struggling to get this to work: I had to invert the pinio config to 129 on my talon f7. Example 1,129,1,1.

[@Coldboris]

What’s that 40 come from you adding on pinio number 1

[@ClubbyGT]

Yep I learnt summert again this evening 👍 thanks for another awesome tutorial…. I just need a cam now,I’m still using my Google’s dvr 🥲

[@JeromeDemers]

Or use GoPro labs and use accelerometer motion detection to start recording and stop recording when you land. Hero9. Maybe 8.

[@0dan0]

All Labs enabled cameras, from HERO7 onward, have this function. gopro.github.io/labs/control/imutrigger/ You can also set the default boot command to enable IMU capture, so as soon as the camera powers up, it is looking for motion.

[@JeromeDemers]

@@0dan0 hey David (0dan0) the guy behind gopro labs! We already chatted on IG! Last week, I saw a 2 time million dollar FPV pilot explain this neat trick.

[@0dan0]

​@@JeromeDemers Hi Jerome, I remember now. This particular hack was made for some folks in high-end aerial production. Remembering to start recording is one thing, more significant is to stop recording before power is removed, otherwise you may corrupt the capture. It the automatic stopping that gives Labs the usability edge.

[@0dan0]

I do need to write this use case up more clearly.

[@0dan0]

Made it very easy now with a drone example gopro.github.io/labs/control/imutrigger/

[@IngiroconlaELE]

Hi, I’ve a Betafpv F405 2-4s AIO V3 12A flight controller. On CLI I put this commands: risorsa LED_STRIP 1 NONE risorsa PINIO 1 A08 set pinio_box = 40,255,255,255 salva But I noticed that A08 isn’t PIN of LED STRIP but with command LED_STRIP 1 NONE now I can’t know what is the correct number to assign PINIO 1. How I can do to resolve this problem?🙏🏻

[@HigherXFPV]

Joshua Bardwell, can you touch bases on the issue of the gopro bones starting in time warp instead of video using this method I'm having this issue and it's very frustrating.

[@PabloAguilarFPV]

what if I don´t see any User1, 2 etc when setting up modes? I am using gePrc cinelog30

[@kralhynek]

same

[@kralhynek]

ahhh, you need to setup the pinio box

[@kralhynek]

it didnt save the settings for me, make sure to save each step and it works

[@mrowczyn]

Seams that it wold be nice to implement pinio also for digital inputs and read status of led. Then to display it on OSD

[@Sunfrancysco]

Exactly my thoughts, but, do you know how to 1) read pinio state 2) output such status to osd over some variable, may be similarly to dysplay_name hack? I mean using stock betaflight, not patched. I would be so thankful if somebody can tell me how to do it.

[@SamHaberONE]

I wired to my unused TX1 on my iflight HD whoop board and lost MSP connection. Wired to LED strip and every was good to go.

[@jmc_fpv]

Hi Joshua, nice information. Would ask you something. Its possible to similarly control things like shutter speed or iso from the camera? Best regards.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

You can't do that via pinio. You need to use the GoPro app.

[@northernflyer5311]

Nice Joshua. Will this work with iNav?

[@flyingpig7203]

Is there anyway to setup the Fettec F7 to control the shutter?

[@javipar]

Lo mejor es situar el switch en la posicion central solo, asi cuando quieras grabar, lo bajas y al pasar por el centro se activa. Y al parar la grabacion, subes la palanca y al pasar por el centro se detiene.

[@kodyappleton6892]

This could actually be really useful if you wanted to use your GoPro to take photos midair as well like a mavic (cos they're so damn expensive and slow ;). Just put the camera into photo mode before takeoff and use a momentary switch as your shutter button. I wonder if there is any way to trigger shutter mid-air without a naked GoPro??

[@JMP1000]

done your flight, done your tricks, think your the boy. I feel that

[@REDhlg]

Would you do this over using the GoPro labs QR code functionality?

[@nylecohen9722]

Can you do this with a normal GoPro?

[@ldamaxxl]

Thanks for the video. And how to use the blue wire? My smo4k won’t power on after I solder just the yellow wire. I’ve tried this a few times exactly in a way you’ve described, and it never worked for me

[@JoshuaBardwell]

SMO4k uses the blue wire for the power button. Wire it the same way but use pinio_box 41,42,255,255 and user mode 1 switches power; user mode 2 switches record.

[@dangibeaucinema5581]

@@JoshuaBardwell where can i find user2 in modes i see user 1 but that pinio was taken on my fc?

[@tipsfan88]

Is it possible to do this with a regular go pro?

[@sten6537]

My Cinebot30 already has pinio_box= 39,40,41,42 does that mean I cant use any of them since 255 is default?

[@justinwalker631]

is 1.3 amps not enough to run the naked hero 10? I forgot to update to GoPro labs firmware. id that why I'm getting this error?

[@Catiadr]

Could that be done with a regular GoPro? Session 5

[@calebgonzalez5212]

Rapid fire or fusion ???

[@matthew164]

I have my prearm on a momentary switch, can i combine the 2?

[@jerydob6499]

How do i run two varing, ie, by 0.5V, dc power supplies in parallel simply? The load will be a qc2/3.0, 30w(in) bat.bank. Testing with ac/dc adaptors but application is for two sepatate 21w(lol) 5v/2a solar panels. Tyia.

[@JoshuaBardwell]

You can't run two power supplies in parallel unless you build a circuit to prevent current from flowing between them or find a way to precisely match their voltage.

[@jerydob6499]

@@JoshuaBardwell What resisters, diodes, or other simple components would you use to match the voltages?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

I don't really know how you would accomplish that. At the very least, you could install a pair of diodes to prevent current from flowing between them.

[@jerydob6499]

@@JoshuaBardwell what size? I have an assortment. And how about these long blue rectangles with the adjustment screw?

[@rcrahul3657]

Made my day... Thanks a lot JB as always 🙂

[@charlieelliott5332]

Any idea why my geprc naked hero9 won't turn on when REC is connected, but works fine without it connected?

[@charlieelliott5332]

Crux35 hd using led_strip pad

[@richardbulger]

Nice facial expression and skin tone on the thumbnail 👌

[@lucanixfpv]

can't you make it with a logical switches in Open TX so that when u change the switch position it only goes to the upper value in a auxchannel for a defined time and when u go back to the off switch position that it goes back to the upper value for the same amount of time. so when u cange the switch to the "record position" it always starts and when you flick it in to "stop record" position it simulates the buttonpress again?

[@lucanixfpv]

Like this: 3 logical switches: L01 a>x SB -1 Duration 0.5(or how long the press should be) L02 a

[@Bean-Time]

What does it actually output? I want to read this signal with an Arduino and don't know if I should use a pullup (or pulldown) resistor. Thanks!

[@JoshuaBardwell]

With standard pinio setup, the pin is high (3.3v) when the aux mode is active and low (0v) when the aux mode is inactive. You can of course reverse this using the pinio_config parameter in CLI.

[@Bean-Time]

@@JoshuaBardwell Thank you!! I just want to know if the 0v is grounded or just an open circuit? Edit: clarification, is 0v connected to ground? Or isolated?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

0v is ground by definition. Open circuit would be "floating" voltage = undefined.

[@Bean-Time]

THANK YOU!!! Sorry for my lack of education, but I'm still in highschool, I've never had a chance to take electrical engineering and learn what might seem obvious to most.

[@TudoRC41]

I have lost LEDS after doing the exact procedure but with T3 pad, even with LEDS on their own pads. What I did wrong?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

My guess is the remapped pinio function tool over the timer used by the ledstrip pad. But this would be very strange as I believe ledstrip should always have a dedicated timer.

[@TudoRC41]

@@JoshuaBardwell it's solved, but I had to remap led_strip to the same C08 as before, thanks to the backup! And Thanks to you! That's awesome!

[@baggszilla]

Thank you JB for this! Your the best!

[@proxemiafpv5746]

I have tried these steps over and over again. I can not get my geprc naked hero 8 on my Geprc cinelog 25 to turn on recording. All switches set up. All files in cli set right. What am I doing wrong?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

Remember you have to flip the aux switch then flip it back as if you were pressing and releasing the record button. That's all pinio does. Emulates pressing and releasing the button.

[@proxemiafpv5746]

Thanks Josh for the reply. I tried it on a 3 position switch to no avail. I figured using a momentary switch would best emulate hitting a “button” like you described in your video. Still not working. And as much as I love the naked hero, it’s fragile, as to be expected in its form factor. So that means the less I can manipulate it and press the record button (which is extremely hard to press by the way) the better the GoPro will be.

[@FastLaneFPV]

I'm a little late to the party, about to strip an old 7 apart. Is there any way to get something on our OSD to indicate that's its recording?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

No I don't think that's possible.

[@connorcunningham7449]

I hope the geprc board is different buttttt, number 1 rule for naked gopro is DO NOT USE THE YELLOW WIRE. Its fried a shit load of gopros so far.

[@oliverpapenbreer6235]

Yes, same experience here! Do not use the yellow wire for the gopro 6!

[@drditter5257]

And for the tango 2 you can use the e switch on the back of the radio (momentary) so you just have to press it one time for start/stop recording

[@laurynasagejevas1200]

I don't have a naked gopro! But watched the video anyways to not upset the algorithm :D

[@breakflight]

A momentary switch would work well for this.

[@onceamantwiceaboy]

So well explained sir

[@rinzlerfpv89]

How can I use this if my FC don't show USER 1 or USER 2 etcetera?

[@JoshuaBardwell]

You would need to create the user mode using the pinio and resource commands as shown in this video.

[@rinzlerfpv89]

@@JoshuaBardwell thanks I did see your tutorial about pinio !

[@bugsy742]

Thanks JB 👍🤝

[@deusmax]

Hi BOSS please.. make a tutorial as beautiful as all yours .. where you do understand how to practice the same thing, which you did with SMO4K, but with GOPRO Naked Thank you in advance

[@JoshuaBardwell]

It's honestly exactly the same.

[@deusmax]

@@JoshuaBardwell Ok I just did it !!!!!! I connected it to the BuzzerPad - yeaaaaaaaaaaaah!

[@bitterrootfpv2207]

That was cool. Thanks Joshua.

[@jonyvilla23]

Has anyone done it with a different aio?

[@Mosmixer]

Great tutorial Joshua

[@mindaugasbaltrimavicius2681]

Tx12 momentary button